Just like Francis Ford Coppola. Sure he has some misses after The Godfather trilogy ended but still he can sail off into sunset because he changed cinema forever with his earlier work. At least he's not a one hit wonder
.. Jackson didnt ''Fade'' from anything - His work lives-on in the 6-movie tolkein series.. And he's 'Rich' now. Literally. Those movies almost verbatim 'Freed' him from having to do anything more if he chooses. +
The fact that Peter Jackson made THE LORD OF THE RINGS and then pretty much went straight into King Kong shows how draining the production of The Hobbit trilogy must've been. Making three LOTR films didn't slow his passion down at all, but The Hobbit made him not direct any movie for 10 years and still going. Also, the production of The Hobbit trilogy ended up changing New Zealand actor union laws for the worst, it was a whole thing.
I found it interesting that by the time he finished Kong he had lost so much weight, but by the end of making The Hobbit Trilogy, he looked like his old self again. . Someone should make a documentary about Jackson losing his artistic passion within the studio system. . They should call it There And Back Again.
He didn’t quit he just started making documentaries that still counts I heard he’s partnering with Warner bros again to make more lord of the rings movies
@@UndeadSlayer5 Uuuhh, yeah he has all but quit directing films. Making remastered footage documentaries is so not the same as directing a full movie. And about more LOTR films, Christ I hope not.
Jackson is doing the lord's work with his documentaries. Everyone points to Get Back, but what he did with They Shall Not Grow Old was beyond words. The restoration of World War 1 footage, colorizing it, and setting a narrative with past interviews from the survivors was an amazing way to humanize a war that is not as remembered in history (at least here in the United States).
As a fellow kiwi, WW1 has a pretty big space in the mind of our country honestly. The Gallipoli campaign is something you can pin point as a laying the foundation for New Zealand as a country, its pretty tied in to our identity. WWII was honestly far less impactful on us as we were less directly involved. Weta studios actually built an insane exhibit in Welingtons museum dedicated to the soldiers who fought in WWI and specifically Gallipoli, and theres memorials to the soldiers who were sent by the Empire to die everywhere. It makes sense someone like Jackson would be more focussed on their stories over those of WWII.
I saw it in theater with my father but unfortunately the film overheated and melted, 1/3 of the way through, and we never got the chance to see it in its entirety ☹️
Almost been a full decade since Peter Jackson's last movie. In 2021, Peter Jackson sold part of Weta (it was for over $1 billion and became a billionaire. He may not feel the need to put himself through the stress of a major motion picture again.
Excited to watch this! I kinda see him as taking a James Cameron path atm. I’m glad to see him doing things he’s passionate about, but wouldn’t be surprised if he returns to feature films in a big way when the time comes.
Which part of the James Cameron path, oceanic scientific research expeditions? 😉 Didn’t Peter Jackson try to do another big fantasy blockbuster a few years back called Mortal Engines? For whatever reason it didn’t do well, so I wonder if PJ is in directors jail these days and no longer trusted with large scale film budgets.
I never blame Jackson for the Hobbit failure. Guy was forced into that situations to save thousands of people jobs and that is honourable. If he never directs a live action film again its fine. He made LOTR and will always be that guy.
@@darkwinduck3009 The films were made on the fly and lack any sort of repeat viewing compared to LOTR. As the years go by people regard the films as a whole as bad as the story wasn’t designed to be stretched over three films. What they added was stuff to make it a prequel to LOTR instead of an adaptation of the Hobbit.
Having directed the LOTR trilogy, one can feel fulfilled as a filmmaker. He made possibly the greatest cinematic achievement of all time. Also I think the experience of making the hobbit drained him physically, mentally and emotionally
Jackson's career started with scrappy horror film like Raimi, then shifted to landscape-shifting blockbusters like Lucas, before finally turning to technically-revolutionary documentaries like nobody else.
I'd argue that Cameron's documentaries were also technically-revolutionary as well. The guy created a submersible and piloted it to a depth no other human had been before. And he used that understanding of creating submersibles and filming underwater to help make Avatar 2, which is a technically impressive film.
The technical feats of Get Back is how Jackson used AI to improve old video footage, and more importantly, using AI to detach vocals from an audio track to create both an instrumental track and a vocal track. The latter may not have a huge impact in the film industry but it will certainly have a lasting place in the music world.@@kieranking7173
I think the shift from B Movie horror to big scale blockbusters is more applicable to Raimi than Lucas. I always felt like Jackson and Raimi were similar filmmakers.
@definitelynotapervert5602 you're right. I didn’t mean Lucas transitioned from b-movies to blockbusters, but that Jackson had transitioned into Lucas' area of expertise and influence.
Also, let's not forget that when Microsoft and Warner Brothers pulled out of Halo, Jackson turned to Neill Blomkampp and said "Well, we've got the money. You got a movie?" and they went and made District 9.
The fact is, once you direct one of the greatest movie trilogies ever, topping it was always going to be impossible. Jackson's own Hobbit films were proof of that.
And I feel bad for Jackson, it's clear that he wasn't prepared to make The Hobbit because New Line Cinema and MGM rushed it. If they gave him a proper time to make The Hobbit, I think it could've been so much better
Everything behind the scenes in The Hobbit was a disaster. I don’t think those movies not turning out is at all revealing about whether or not he can top his previous work.
I disagree, it was made in a much different way from the LOTR. If it went as smoothly as it could’ve, I’m sure Guillermo del toro could’ve delivered. Same with Peter Jackson if he was set up correctly
@@thataintfalco7106Or even reduce the adaptation to 2 films. I loved Benedict Cumberbatch as Smaug, but Desolation and Five Armies were incredibly padded. And perhaps too CGI-heavy for their own good.
@@benwasserman8223 that was what I’ve always thought. The idea of a trilogy for a book as small as the hobbit was silly. That was the original idea to begin with
From what I've read, I think the whole Hobbit experience with studio and political interference is what caused him to focus on documentaries more recently. With how chaotic and kind of soul-crushing it was, I'd want to take a bit of a break from that kind of stuff too
I've heard that too but I'm still shocked he hasn't at least directed a little movie like a Heavenly Creatures type of film or something else like that.
Yup this often happens to great artists who suddenly make a name for themselves based on talent and hard work. Very few can do what they want without interference.
As a massive Beatles fan, I think he’s been doing the lords work restoring footage and editing documentaries for them. And I hope he continues working with them. He has his mic drop critical and commercial masterpieces with the LOTR trilogy, so if he never makes another narrative film again, he has nothing to prove. But if he wants to continue following his inner beatle fanboy heart, I’m totally here for it!
I liked, They Will Not Grow Old. . But I feel that his Beatles Documentary was aimless and boring. I feel that Documentaries should have a narrative structure to them, instead of watching a BTS video that plays like a home movie. . I continue to be impressed with the technology he's using to restore historical footage into 4K definition, but I was bored to tears by that one. . And this is coming from a guy who has an entire LOTR/Peter Jackson collection in their house. I even have the Tolkien Saga Blu-Ray box set where all six films, both versions of each, each come in a leather bound Digibook on a wood shelf, lol.
The narrative structure was the band needed to come up with enough new material in less then a month to play their first live gig in nearly 3 years, added to that noone in the band can agree on anything and you get real time footage of the creation of these songs from initial inspiration to finished product. Which is a hell of a lot more narrative structure then the original film that footage is all taken from.Granted over eight hours might be a bit too much for casual fans or curious viewers. I kind of feel that way about 12 hours of lotr lol. But if you are a fan of either the Beatles or Tolkien, Jackson definitely gives you your money’s worth.
@@Mr.Corinthians Calm down Mr Zealot, God is found within the spirit, not within the pages of a tome that has been manipulated and changed by mankind for millennia, for their own personal desires. . "GOD" isn't going to be mad that you are a fan of fiction and art, what matters is how you live your life, how you treat your neighbors, how you treat the foreigner, live a good life, build a personal relationship with your God, and leave the things that you see as splinters in our eyes and tend to the moat sticking from your own eye. . You judge others, you make proclamations in the public square for all to see your piety, you pray and worship to show the world your moral superiority over the masses, get into thy closest and pray in private, not on a UA-cam comments section that is discussing art. . BEGONE FOUL ZEALOT, YOUR BULLSHIT SHALL NOT PASS HERE.
@@joedee9811 I understand that, just for me there was very little context or insight to what, where and why, which is probably alienating for those who were born after Lennon was shot.
@@VegimorphtheMovieBoy Yeah, sure. He's been "working on the script" for over a decade now, and he's still trying to figure out which books he even wants to adapt.
LOTR is the only movie (series) where everything seemed to come together: A passionate director with true understanding of the source material, an immaculate casting choice with everyone clearly wanting to be there and wanting the best for those movies, an incredible team of passionate artists, stage builders, and staff producing everything they needed. When you watch those documentaries you just realize that this project was one of those were every individual part just completely clicked with every other. So much love and passion from everyone involved... I have never seen that in any other film production.
The Dune movies might just be what you're looking for. Denis Villeneuve and Hans Zimmer both absolutely LOVE the source material and it really comes through. And it seems like the entire cast was jazzed to be a part of it too. I hope they do a third movie that adapts the next book with the same level of quality
"A passionate director with true understanding of the source material," I don't know how Jackson apologists keep saying this stuff. He added three hours of terrible content to the LOTR films. Everything good in them came directly from Tolkien. You people love to pretend this didn't happen for some reason and that the films are in any sense faithful-they obviously are not. Jackson is a terrible director and had so many dismal failures afterwards you'd think you people would just drop it but there you are in every yt video singing the praises of this mediocre, shallow director endlessly.
@@thelawenforcerhd9654I am not sure I understand your point? This is THE best adaption of any piece of art ever. It's not easy to translate a book into a movie format. There are an infinite amount of examples of bad adaptations... but this one was really good - and Jackson had a massive part in it? If he's so shit, how did this all work out so well?
one thing that makes my very thankful for PJ, is him bringing a lot of film making to New Zealand. Such a beautiful and stunning place to shoot movies. Even James Cameron works out of NZ now
"Big Jim" Cameron moved to NZ to escape the huge tax bite that California was about to take out of his "Avatar" profits if he was a resident. Taxes for thee, not for me...
Peter Jackson is my hero. When I was a kid I watched his King Kong movie daily for years. Till this day that movie is engraved very deeply in my soul and the only one that can make me tear up. I’m very thankful for his work
It's crazy how good that movie still holds up too for 2005. I used to think Avatar was the first film to really make that BIG jump in CGI quality, but nah I think it was King Kong. 😊
@@ProfessuhLemon Hell yeah! The CGI is truly insane, it looks better than many blockbusters! It still amazes me, especially the emotion you can feel from Kong.
From a New Zealander's POV; I think a big reason why he transitioned to docos is the politics of the making The Hobbit films and what it meant for Kiwi film crews. If you're interested in this, I'd google "The Hobbit Law New Zealand".
Holy fuck, it terrifying that Warner Bros was able to bully a national government into changing a law. That was also a really scummy move on PJ's part. He sacrificed his fellow New Zealanders for money.
The Hobbit trilogy broken him. I remember eagerly waiting for those behind the scene videos like we had done for LOTR and when they started dropping online, I remember understanding instantly that something was wrong because PJ was so clearly and genuinely unhappy. He looked HAUNTED and THAT is what broke my heart about those films. He was placed in an impossible position by the studio coupled with the inevitable backlash from the fan community as well...I mean that would break anyone! I'm just happy to see him doing ANYTHING honestly.
@@DeRockMediaif they had gave Peter 4 years of preproduction and the time that James Cameron had with avatar they who’d have made twice as much more money
Yup! Guillermo worked with us at Weta for years, but f****ng evil Warner Bros Execs just would NOT approve his beautifully dark shooting scripts until in the end he just HAD to leave us😕 So, Pete literally was left with zero pre-pro time before our immovable shoot dates!!!
@@DocTinfoil Hello, I grew up watching the hobbit films and I loved them and even now I love them. But I wanted to get your insight since it seems like you work/worked at Weta? You're saying that Guillermo worked on the hobbit films for years but it was all scrapped and Peter had to make up for all that work? And the due dates of WB had stressed Peter too far?
I've always found it crazy how Peter Jackson made about 4 or 5 comedy horror films ranging from obscure to cult favourites... and then makes three of the best and most beloved films of all time seemingly out of the ether
because book and film are 2 different mediums just like painting and photography. He nailed the story and themes so that means he did a great job.@@reek4062
you have to make sacrifices when adapting such a work to the screen. it's done as good as one can possible do it while still having to obey blockbuster movie rules and politics @@reek4062
Yeah, he just took the right approach: he stuck to the source material. I find it far more mind boggling how no one else ever thinks of that. Like every adaptation I watch is unrecognizable to it's original source. But the few times it isn't, those are total bangers. Watchmen is another example. It's just like LotR missing pieces here and there but mostly it's a 1 to 1 translation of the original stuff. Frame by frame. And I loved it seeing the story I knew from the comics come to life. Well maybe except for some details. It's so easy to make a banger. Like take star wars or marvel for example. They have everything to tell amazing stories for ages. They just refuse to do so and think they can come up with better stuff that has already proven itself. That's where all the bullshit starts we have to endure. Hell imagine one of the good xmen comic runs on screen in a faithful adaptation. That shit would reach got level of hype. Yes some of those stories were that good.
that some producer somewhere said ! No we want 3 movies! have a billon dollar and go get em! Is really the mystery in my mind. His movie history does not really sell him as big budget mastermind.
I did not know PJ co-founded WETA Digital, crazy cause James Cameron is doing a majority of his work with them now. What a crazy associative collab haha.
I never understood why Hollywood has such a great legacy with sci-fi directors but great fantasy film makers seem largely few and far between. So many all-time great directors have dabbled in sci-fi, but I can't really think of many notable film makers known for fantasy, only one that springs to mind is Del Toro.
It feels as if the tangible feeling and grit Peter Jackson did earlier and seemed to love (i.e. miniatures, practical effects, sets etc.) have all but disappeared from his line of work these days.
Peter Jackson was never really blamed for the state of the Hobbit. Everyone knows he was dropped in the deep end with it. I think what killed the Hobbit overall was it being three films. When it should have been two at most. The first Hobbit movie (part 1) I really liked.
@@catalandustin51 Not sure about that. I only watched TBOTFA once when it was released theatrically and I have no desire to watch it again. Parts of it are really bad, in fact so bad that I totally disconnected from the movie. It felt they had a script for a 45min episode and had to stretch to nearly 2 1/2 hours. You could clearly tell that Jackson‘s heart wasn‘t in it.
Sigh. Peter Jackson was already involved with the Hobbit films as a writer and producer in 2008. And he made the decision to turn it into a trilogy somewhere in the spring/early summer of 2012, long after a lot of nonsense had already been added.
I remember reading LOTR as a kid. Watching the old feature length cartoon. Thinking there is no way they could make this into a film. What Jackson did was just amazing. He made what I read and the images I made in my head as a kid, in the 80s, into celluloid. The closest to what I read into film. He never has to make a film again with the body of work he did.
Hi everyone, there was a project that was greenlit that was ready to go before the Hobbit trilogy got in the way. It's interesting because nobody seems to know about this, but we were grearing up for it here in New Zealand. The movie was 'The Dam Busters' and it was a retelling of the famous air raid from world war 2. Props were built, WW2 bombers were also being built. Hugh Laurie (Americans know him mostly from 'House') had even written much of the script. Jackson announced it as the next movie and everyone thought we going to see it happen. Next thing you know Guillumo Del Toro pulls out (I met him in Wellington during Hobbit pre-production) and Jackson is forced to step in and 'The Dam Busters' movie died right there.
That would have been great to see. I think there were a bunch of Kiwis involved in the Dambusters squadron as well which would have made it all the more special
His cinematographer, Andrew Lesnie, also died in 2015, less than one year after the final Hobbit film. That could be another reason why Peter dipped out of filmmaking
I think he had such a terrible experience making The Hobbit (followed by The Mortal Engines bombing) he just soured on big budget tentpole pictures. I’d love him to go back to smaller films like Heavenly Creatures but only if he finds a story that speaks to his sensibilities and interests.
The man is 62 years old! Directing takes such a commitment. Even if he were to jump on board a production today it probably wouldn’t be released before he’s 65. So it could be that he doesn’t think he can top the LOTR trilogy or it could simply be the man’s enjoying the fruits of his labour chilling somewhere on a yacht loving his best life.
He’s 8 years younger than James Cameron, but people age differently and not everyone can maintain that level of stamina later in life. I’m blown away by directors like Martin Scorsese who somehow never fail to lose their drive and passion for directing. It’s one of the most difficult jobs in the business.
@@bgs7529 Literally senior age, which is old by almost everyone's metric. There's a spectrum of old, and 60+ is at least in the indisputably old bracket. You can still work when you're old. You may be forced to work when you're old. You may have the means to never work again, and choose to follow that.
@@SwobyJLiterally senior age… ha. What does that even mean? Do you mean the completely arbitrary pension age which was mostly defined when people were dying younger and a lot unhealthier? Do you reckon Joe Rogan and Tom Cruise are old seniors? There’s no reason why you shouldn’t be in great shape heading to your 60s in 2024. It’s not the 1980s anymore
0:30 the way how you talked about learning how the movie was made and that it was so interesting to watch, I have that with the hobbit. I was young and really liked the hobbit. I do know they are nowhere near as great as the lord of the rings but I still have a soft spot for that trilogy.
Jackson damn near deserves a peerage from the UK Crown for his WW1 documentary “They Shall Not Grow Old” Before advanced generative AI began proliferating, Jackson pushed tech boundaries to produce a breathtaking landmark documentary with utterly groundbreaking technology. I saw it in theaters the day it released in the US. I was blown away by the storytelling and the tech capabilities. It deserves a spot alongside Ken Burns’ “Civil War” as one of the greatest documentaries of all time. And the contribution it made to the cultural legacy of the Great War is invaluable. He also builds WW1 biplanes from scratch with original parts to have professional pilots dogfight them, so that’s pretty badass imo
Not only did he create the most epic adaptation ever of a wonderful fantasy world, the man went on to create the greatest dinosaur movie ever with King Kong 2005. Now thats a life well lived.
Have always had the dream idea of Peter Jackson directing a Halo movie trilogy. A competently made film with Martin O’Donnell and Howard Shore working on the score? You’ve got box-office GOLD.
I would NEVER call his post Lord of the Rings work disappointing, especially given what an *important* piece of music history the Get Back documentary has been, how it changed the public narrative of the late Beatles career and their breakup for general audiences and casual fans, and the audio tools he and his team developed in the procees, much like how the LOTR films caused so much innovation. (And that's not even going into his WWI doc.) Tbh if we follow thru on thr Lucas analogy, I'd rather George had branched out and done something artistic, creative, innovative or meaningful, works like any of Jackson's documentaries, in his later career.
LOTR trilogy is my Star Wars. I was 6 when I saw the Fellowship and it changed my life. I never liked sci-fi so the prequels never appealed to me. Since then, I've been a fantasy nerd. When LOTR trilogy box set came out on DVD, I constantly had them playing on a PS2, in my bedroom. After watching them, I'd go straight into the special features. Those special features taught me more about film than any high school or college classes I took years later. I'd love to see Peter Jackson make a film that has the same amount of passion that is shown in his film catalog from 1987-2005. Given how rough the Hobbit production was, I don't blame him for wanting to step back and put all his create juices into documentaries. His WW1 doc, They Shall Not Grow Old, is one of the best war documentaries I've ever seen.
Star Wars isn't science fiction, it is a fantasy set in space. Sci fi explores the causes and consequences of humankind coming in contact with out there technology or discoveries. That was never Star Wars' goal.
I genuinely want to thank you greatly for making this, as there I was - thinking about this exact topic… I think it’s even greater that both Jackson and Lucas have clearly always been leading an expansion of their creativity and exactly what they want to do from the beginning of their art. I don’t think Jackson’s recent documentary work can truly be comparable to his adaption of Tolkien but I love them and I love that this man and his team of people he works with continue to create and produce what they won’t to do!
Honestly nothing in Hollywood history will ever top those special features. They're a masterpiece of behind the scenes movie making...just as entertaining as the films themselves.
Surely I am not the only one who wonder what if we had gotten Del Toro's The Hobbit, with Peter Jackson being a executive producer. Could he have had the clout/ strength to push back at the studio executives from stopping The Hobbit from basically from being turned into what we got which was a LOTR prequel and instead just 1 unique kids movie with a tiny bit of LOTR easter eggs. So film cirtics could wonder which is better Del Toro's The Hobbit or LOTR. Similar with what if Edgar Wright had gotten to direct AND keep his version of Antman without the Marvel machine steamrolling down and unique aspect of it
Watched this channel for a long time and never heard you say something positive before so I haven't been watching lately. I'm glad you aren't negative about everything. Your channel has that complainy vibe tbh so this is refreshing
I can understand people like Jackson and Lucas. They start out on low level stuff to exercise their creative side and that leads to them realising the possibility of taking it higher and developing a grand vision, in the case of directors it's a big budget film. Then after that, that's it. They made that achievement. They got it off their chest. Now they can relax and focus on other low level projects that pique their interest or inspires them. Some directors start off small then make it big, then try to keep churning out one success after another. Each being more grand than the previous. While other directors are suited to small indie stuff but occasionally will have a huge project brewing inside them and they just happen to hit it big when they make it and it pays off, especially if they have to develop new technology or start up a company just to get it off the ground.
Kong 2005 is one of my favorite films of all time. Genuinely. So much heart despite some uneven spots. The cast was perfect, and the moments between Anne & Kong are all so sweet and emotional. My favorite version of Kong for sure, as it made me feel on a level no other remake has ever been able to. Beautiful soundtrack and super creepy rendition of Skull Island as well!
Jack Black and Adrian Brody were terrible casting choices and King Kong ice skating with Naomi Watts was one of the dumbest things I've ever seen in a movie.
Another factor to consider: All the big name directors are stepping back now (arguably, except for Cameron): Speilberg, and the others are tired of having their creative impulses blocked by Hollywood producers, and the DEI/ESG agenda that requires them to prioritize casting over writing and plot.
13 years after Tintin was released, it's not too late to start work on the sequel! I had been looking forward to that for a long time. At this stage in Jackson's career, this would be a perfect project for him: childhood heroes and cutting edge technology.
Yea, I watched the movie several times and every time the movie ends, I feel sad there isn't another one I could watch. I love what they did with the caracters ob Tintin! like LOTR it is a homage to the original books which I loved as a child.
Peter Jackson will forever be a GOAT, not just for the LOTR trilogy but now for helping the last Beatles track finally get made after so many years of waiting.
Braindead is one of my favorite movies of all time, as well as Fellowship. The guy has made two masterpieces in two completely different veins, so I'm ok if he doesn't do anything ever again
I literally just started the Return of the King audiobook today and I’ve been listening to each book, followed by Peter Jackson, Phillipa Boyens, and Fran Walsh’s commentary for each movie and then the appendices documentaries. Those extended dvds with all the bonus features are a pillar of my love for film and the art of movie making. Sean Astin said that his father worked for Peter on a film and talked about the passion Peter and Fran bring to a production and I feel like while others have that passion, Jackson and Walsh inspire their cast and crews with that same passion and it shines through the brightest with LotR. I wish he’d direct something where he’s given the amount of prep time he had for Rings but I’m not sure what it would be. He is a tremendous storyteller who has changed the way I see movies
@1:49 Peter Jackson and his body of work is my go-to rebuttal to "what's the difference between AI training and a human training" because if you train an AI on Peter Jackson's previous work and then type in "Peter Jackson's LOTR" you're not getting the masterpiece we got.
Yes! Fellowship is by far the best LotRs film - it's the ultimate road movie! I loved it so much even at release that TT and RotK, while very, very good, just didn't hit me the way Fellowship did
Same here. Unfortunately the Hobbit movies turned out to be pretty average (well at least the first tow instalments, the third one is really bad) and for me kinda tainted Middle Earth.
Robert Zemeckis? He's directed TONS of big movies since the 90's. Cast Away, The Polar Express, A Christmas Carol, Flight, etc... Chris Columbus started Harry Potter in 2001, one of the biggest franchises ever. Tried (and failed) to do it with Percy Jackson in 2010. Whether all of their work has been noteworthy or even good is debatable, but they've literally never gone away for long.
I remember when this video came out, and it did at the right time. I was looking into peter Jackson at director focused essay and watching most of his movies. It was fun seeing him go from one way of movies to the next. Thank you for this video. ❤
In a way Gareth Edwards is similar to Peter Jackson, he had two big hits with Godzilla and Rogue One then turned down Godzilla: King of the Monsters. He subsequently did the modest budget film The Creator.
I recently watched the first two Hobbit films and The Fellowship of the Ring, and of course, Fellowship is still a timeless masterpiece (as are the other two LOTR films), and as for An Unexpected Journey and The Desolation of Smaug, while they were lacking in character development, especially in the case of the dwarves (except Thorin), they were still impressive in terms of scale, size, and creativity, and to an extent, emotional storytelling. And of course, Martin Freeman as Bilbo was the best part of the Hobbit trilogy.
I may get trashed for that, but I actually prefer the Hobbit movies over Lord of the Rings: They catched me far more emotionally and I like the smaller scope of the story. Might also be because the Hobbit films were my first experience with Middle-earth. And I know that he didn't want to do the Hobbit initially (because he didn't want to do anything again in this scope), but from the video blogs I've always got the feeling that he grew on it.
@@odysseasgrigoriadis1077 Exactly. I never got the feeling that he hated it and I watched all the behind appendixes. I think people are really riding the train of shitting on the hobbit movies because they've heard others do so and/or because they're nostalgic about lotr
There are certain men who come along at a certain point in history, at exactly the right time and place, and leave their legacy. Peter Jackson is clearly one of those men.
I wish more than anything he made more films with the passion he had for lotr and Kong. To me he’s the greatest director to ever walk the earth just because of those movies.
Crazy to think how much better the cinema world might have been if the studios left Guillermo del Toro the hell alone and let him make whatever Hobbit movie he wanted to make.
Actually, Christian had worked with us for YEARS honing his visual skills. It was mostly Fran & also Peter's constant MEDDLING in it that effed things up for him! He simply wasn't allowed to properly DIRECT his film! (BOY am I in trouble now!)
@@DocTinfoil You worked (or still working) at Weta? I lived in NZ for a while and some of my friends are working there and without wanting to stir any pots, I got the feeling from them that Peter and Fran are nice people but can be very demanding.
King Kong is underrated. I think that movie is perfect what it is (it would not be appropriate pacing/ratio of action and spectacle for a Tolkien adaptation).
I honestly hope Peter Jackson makes horror movies again. Maybe not on the same budget/scale as _Lord of the Rings_ , or the slap-sticky-ness as _Dead-Alive_ , but sharing a unique perspective within the genre.
Thank you for this video. So many time I have always wondered what happened to Peter Jackson and why nk one talks about him that much anymore. And I always seem to forget to Google him lol. I really do miss him. LOTR...The Frighteners,King Kong and the Lovely Bones were great.
I think you missed an important point in the comparison with George Lucas and Peter Jackson. It’s the point George Lucas created his universe while Peter Jackson didn’t. I think this goes a long way of showing why Peter Jackson is much more focused on the technological part in his later career. If there is a great bit of source material available for Peter then he would go for it. Even the mention of James Cameron, look at all the different stories that have become blockbusters he has been involved in. Peter Jackson hasn’t showed he had this new story building in him while he a very good technical director.
I'm glad he gets to do what inspires him too. But it does make me sad because he was once attached to a project making an adaptation of the "Temeraire" or as it is known in America " His Majesties Dragon" series by Naomi Novik. Set in an alternative fantasy history during the Napoleonic wars where Dragons are real animals used for warfare. Think Horatio Hornblower+ How to Train Your Dragon. Now Fox animation has the rights and I fear for the future.
"They shall not grow old". That for me was SO powerful that I was emotionally impacted. He brought us inside a REAL war. People don’t take that movie into account when talking about Jackson. Personally, I think Jackson is fantastic - he is someone who is doing what he wants to do. Experimenting. Doing whatever he likes. I admire him for that.
Viggo nailed it when he said that Jackson got bit by the CGI bug. After fellowship saw success Jackson lost the way and went down the path of relying on computer generated imagination in place of true creativity.
Nah man, Viggo Mortensen also thought that about Two Towers and Return of the King and he was wrong there too. The Hobbit films weren't bad because of CG (though there was certainly an over-reliance on it) and this disrespect towards the hard work of digital effects artists is utter nonsense. These effects are not "Computer Generated", they are _made by artists_ on a computer. Practical effects and miniatures are great but they are no more creative than CG. It's all about how it's used. Most CG you see these days is invisible, and the stuff that isn't hidden is frequently extremely creative and stunning. Even films that supposedly have "no CG" are absolutely filled with subtle CG work. You just don't notice.
@@ninjadodovideos He was right there too.* Fixed it for you. Not disrespect for artists, just the reality of what happens when you overly rely on CG instead of writing and practicals.
@@Some_Scott Nope, wrong again. Return of the King and Towers were both magnificent. A computer is a *tool* just like a pencil, or the clay and foam and paint used to build miniatures. If you think digital art imagined and meticulously crafted BY ARTISTS are any less creative than physical art _you don't know anything._
@@ninjadodovideos Always funny when low IQ people claim objective authority on subjective issues while also disregarding all nuance and other aspects of an argument. Please, carry on. 😂🤣💀
She identified someone other than the man who was convicted during the lineup, but the prosecutor charged him anyway and pushed the victim into testifying against him. They also used faulty forensic evidence to frame him. "It was the court. It was the system. It's not the victim's fault." - Anthony Broadwater
I would love him to do an uncharted movie with the same style as tintin. Bringing the original actors from the uncharted games to do the motion capture and voices so it looks the same as the games. Tintin in a brilliant movie and we haven't seen anything else quite like it since. It's a real shame that everything is live action with crappy CGI nowadays.
Making the Hobbit more than one movie was the worst decision the studios could have made and are probably what killed his passion, how do you go from LOTR to packing such a short book into 3 films just so the studios can cash out more
To this day, I still have only seen 2/3 of the LOTR trilogy, but I have seen the extended version The Hobbit trilogy, and I actually thought it was pretty good, it had some issues, sure, but I liked it when I watched it at the time (and I even waited 3 consecutive years for each extended version to come out on DVD). Lastly, I would love to see Peter Jackson direct Thor 5, but if that’s never gonna happen, then at least he should direct an episode of Doctor Who like he always wanted.
I think a lot of what influences artists changes with age, when you're younger as in most things you have something prove, it's gotta bigger and badder than everything else out there because you have to stand out. As you begin to get older, those things don't mean as much to you as they once did, oftentimes you will just want to be in the moment and contemplate things a little more.
From how Peter Jackson was treated from studio interference and audience reception from the Hobbit Trilogy, im not surprised he just wants to take a break from big budget movies. There are discussions of him helping with some other prequels of the Lotr like the war with the Witch King which would be amazing.
As someone who worked on the LOTR motion capture and so had some contact with WETA during that time period: I would agree he is following the George Lucas playbook loosely, with WETA being his ILM. Saw you got there too at the end, but I think there is the additional element of making New Zealand a place to shoot and do film work that adds to the pressure on him. Oh and on the Frighteners, Patrick Runyon (look for him on IMDB), blamed the marketing for the Frighteners. Said Miramax dropped the ball on that one. Of course, that is an easy excuse for someone on the production side. I was only about 20 at the time, so no idea. I remember liking it for what it is worth.
I’m going to get a lot of hate for this: I think The Hobbit Trilogy is actually not that bad. No, it’s not a masterpiece like LOTR Trilogy, but I wasn’t expecting it to be since those films can never be topped. However, in light of the show The Rings of Power and this upcoming animated film called The War of the Rohirrim (look it up) it feels as if LOTR is going to get oversaturated as a franchise, and so looking back on The Hobbit Trilogy it feels like there was at least SOME passion behind it to make a good trilogy, unlike nowadays where it’s just quantity over quality.
It's rare to see this openly spoken online, but I feel the exact same way, and have done so for years. The films as they currently stand have many well-documented flaws, but in my eyes there's a plethora of qualities that don't get their due attention. Without Jackson at the helm, it might have fallen apart or turned out worse. I hope The War of the Rohirrim is made with passion and respect for the material, because we will not get that from the Amazon series in any way, shape, or form.
If you made the LOTR trilogy, you can just go ahead and sail off into the sunset.
Just like Francis Ford Coppola. Sure he has some misses after The Godfather trilogy ended but still he can sail off into sunset because he changed cinema forever with his earlier work. At least he's not a one hit wonder
If I learned anything from the Return of the King it is that after people sail off into the sunset, there is always a little more story to tell.
...and lose 70 pounds of stress eating in less than 2 years...and gain some of it back on a another trilogy.
@@Erasureeraserhe made apocalypse now too so you can’t even say anything about him lol
.. Jackson didnt ''Fade'' from anything - His work lives-on in the 6-movie tolkein series.. And he's 'Rich' now. Literally. Those movies almost verbatim 'Freed' him from having to do anything more if he chooses. +
The fact that Peter Jackson made THE LORD OF THE RINGS and then pretty much went straight into King Kong shows how draining the production of The Hobbit trilogy must've been.
Making three LOTR films didn't slow his passion down at all, but The Hobbit made him not direct any movie for 10 years and still going.
Also, the production of The Hobbit trilogy ended up changing New Zealand actor union laws for the worst, it was a whole thing.
I found it interesting that by the time he finished Kong he had lost so much weight, but by the end of making The Hobbit Trilogy, he looked like his old self again.
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Someone should make a documentary about Jackson losing his artistic passion within the studio system.
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They should call it There And Back Again.
He didn’t quit he just started making documentaries that still counts I heard he’s partnering with Warner bros again to make more lord of the rings movies
@@UndeadSlayer5 Uuuhh, yeah he has all but quit directing films. Making remastered footage documentaries is so not the same as directing a full movie.
And about more LOTR films, Christ I hope not.
@@GEMINIEARTHWALKER He had health issues, didn't just stop eating or something like that
He was actually offered the job of King Kong BEFORE he made Lord of the Rings.
Jackson is doing the lord's work with his documentaries. Everyone points to Get Back, but what he did with They Shall Not Grow Old was beyond words. The restoration of World War 1 footage, colorizing it, and setting a narrative with past interviews from the survivors was an amazing way to humanize a war that is not as remembered in history (at least here in the United States).
As a fellow kiwi, WW1 has a pretty big space in the mind of our country honestly. The Gallipoli campaign is something you can pin point as a laying the foundation for New Zealand as a country, its pretty tied in to our identity. WWII was honestly far less impactful on us as we were less directly involved. Weta studios actually built an insane exhibit in Welingtons museum dedicated to the soldiers who fought in WWI and specifically Gallipoli, and theres memorials to the soldiers who were sent by the Empire to die everywhere. It makes sense someone like Jackson would be more focussed on their stories over those of WWII.
Really surprised this comment isn't top. They shall not grow old is a masterpiece and is so extremely important to the legacy of the lost generation.
@@jackdryden7452how does your country see Jackson’s documentary?
100%
He also corrected the framerate of the clips he used.
WWI footage ranges from 14-18 fps, and he and his team corrected ALL footage to 24 fps.
His WW1 doc They Shall Not Grow Old is legitimately a masterpiece, will not forget seeing that in 70mm.
'They Shall Not Grow Old' is an absolute must watch. That period of history and the suffering of those men must never be forgotten.
Yes! This documentary is absolutely amazing.
Indeed very cool and i think its also important to show w1 to public in his way with old footage
I saw it in theater with my father but unfortunately the film overheated and melted, 1/3 of the way through, and we never got the chance to see it in its entirety ☹️
@@harrynutts8856 Skill issue
Almost been a full decade since Peter Jackson's last movie.
In 2021, Peter Jackson sold part of Weta (it was for over $1 billion and became a billionaire. He may not feel the need to put himself through the stress of a major motion picture again.
It’s been only 6 years since they will not grow old. He is also connected to the tintin sequel. Good for him on getting the billions
@@thataintfalco7106 It's been a full decade since he directed one. He only produced Mortal Engines, he wasn't the director.
@@R1ch4d8 I don’t know if you count this but he directed they will not grow old, and again, that was only 5-6 years ago
@@thataintfalco7106 That's not a movie, it's a remastered footage documentary. Vast difference between directing a film.
yeah, that's what I was wondering. fair enough@@R1ch4d8
Excited to watch this! I kinda see him as taking a James Cameron path atm. I’m glad to see him doing things he’s passionate about, but wouldn’t be surprised if he returns to feature films in a big way when the time comes.
Well hello there 😏
Which part of the James Cameron path, oceanic scientific research expeditions? 😉 Didn’t Peter Jackson try to do another big fantasy blockbuster a few years back called Mortal Engines? For whatever reason it didn’t do well, so I wonder if PJ is in directors jail these days and no longer trusted with large scale film budgets.
@@tronam the reason was that it suck. Like just watch the movie and tell me it had any chance of succeeding
@@tronamhe was just a producer on mortal engines.
Except Cameron hasn't made a truly great film in 30 years.
I never blame Jackson for the Hobbit failure. Guy was forced into that situations to save thousands of people jobs and that is honourable. If he never directs a live action film again its fine. He made LOTR and will always be that guy.
How was hobbit a failure?
@@darkwinduck3009 The films were made on the fly and lack any sort of repeat viewing compared to LOTR. As the years go by people regard the films as a whole as bad as the story wasn’t designed to be stretched over three films. What they added was stuff to make it a prequel to LOTR instead of an adaptation of the Hobbit.
Tolkien wrote the Lord of the Rings. Tolkien wrote the Hobbit.
Having directed the LOTR trilogy, one can feel fulfilled as a filmmaker. He made possibly the greatest cinematic achievement of all time. Also I think the experience of making the hobbit drained him physically, mentally and emotionally
@@HP-lc5vw Agreed. You can see the difference in his energy in the BTS. In all the Hobbit ones he is beaten and just doesn't want to be there.
Jackson's career started with scrappy horror film like Raimi, then shifted to landscape-shifting blockbusters like Lucas, before finally turning to technically-revolutionary documentaries like nobody else.
I'd argue that Cameron's documentaries were also technically-revolutionary as well. The guy created a submersible and piloted it to a depth no other human had been before. And he used that understanding of creating submersibles and filming underwater to help make Avatar 2, which is a technically impressive film.
@plr2473 very observant. I don't see the techniques from Get Back being applied to fiction film, though.
The technical feats of Get Back is how Jackson used AI to improve old video footage, and more importantly, using AI to detach vocals from an audio track to create both an instrumental track and a vocal track. The latter may not have a huge impact in the film industry but it will certainly have a lasting place in the music world.@@kieranking7173
I think the shift from B Movie horror to big scale blockbusters is more applicable to Raimi than Lucas. I always felt like Jackson and Raimi were similar filmmakers.
@definitelynotapervert5602 you're right. I didn’t mean Lucas transitioned from b-movies to blockbusters, but that Jackson had transitioned into Lucas' area of expertise and influence.
Also, let's not forget that when Microsoft and Warner Brothers pulled out of Halo, Jackson turned to Neill Blomkampp and said "Well, we've got the money. You got a movie?" and they went and made District 9.
Such an under-appreciated film at the time. What a champ.
@@stephen-torrence Its super appreciated. Not everything is under appreciated.
No he’s right it didn’t get very much love st the time.
@@codyhardman3636 I was around then. It was big deal. Nothing is lotr big but it sure wasn't underappreceated.
@@miiiikku ‘you were around then?
What, like, around the production team?…. I’m not a teenager, and I’m pretty sure you’re not an OG.
The fact is, once you direct one of the greatest movie trilogies ever, topping it was always going to be impossible. Jackson's own Hobbit films were proof of that.
And I feel bad for Jackson, it's clear that he wasn't prepared to make The Hobbit because New Line Cinema and MGM rushed it. If they gave him a proper time to make The Hobbit, I think it could've been so much better
Everything behind the scenes in The Hobbit was a disaster. I don’t think those movies not turning out is at all revealing about whether or not he can top his previous work.
I disagree, it was made in a much different way from the LOTR. If it went as smoothly as it could’ve, I’m sure Guillermo del toro could’ve delivered. Same with Peter Jackson if he was set up correctly
@@thataintfalco7106Or even reduce the adaptation to 2 films. I loved Benedict Cumberbatch as Smaug, but Desolation and Five Armies were incredibly padded. And perhaps too CGI-heavy for their own good.
@@benwasserman8223 that was what I’ve always thought. The idea of a trilogy for a book as small as the hobbit was silly. That was the original idea to begin with
From what I've read, I think the whole Hobbit experience with studio and political interference is what caused him to focus on documentaries more recently. With how chaotic and kind of soul-crushing it was, I'd want to take a bit of a break from that kind of stuff too
I've heard that too but I'm still shocked he hasn't at least directed a little movie like a Heavenly Creatures type of film or something else like that.
Yup this often happens to great artists who suddenly make a name for themselves based on talent and hard work. Very few can do what they want without interference.
As a massive Beatles fan, I think he’s been doing the lords work restoring footage and editing documentaries for them. And I hope he continues working with them. He has his mic drop critical and commercial masterpieces with the LOTR trilogy, so if he never makes another narrative film again, he has nothing to prove. But if he wants to continue following his inner beatle fanboy heart, I’m totally here for it!
I liked, They Will Not Grow Old.
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But I feel that his Beatles Documentary was aimless and boring. I feel that Documentaries should have a narrative structure to them, instead of watching a BTS video that plays like a home movie.
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I continue to be impressed with the technology he's using to restore historical footage into 4K definition, but I was bored to tears by that one.
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And this is coming from a guy who has an entire LOTR/Peter Jackson collection in their house. I even have the Tolkien Saga Blu-Ray box set where all six films, both versions of each, each come in a leather bound Digibook on a wood shelf, lol.
The narrative structure was the band needed to come up with enough new material in less then a month to play their first live gig in nearly 3 years, added to that noone in the band can agree on anything and you get real time footage of the creation of these songs from initial inspiration to finished product. Which is a hell of a lot more narrative structure then the original film that footage is all taken from.Granted over eight hours might be a bit too much for casual fans or curious viewers. I kind of feel that way about 12 hours of lotr lol. But if you are a fan of either the Beatles or Tolkien, Jackson definitely gives you your money’s worth.
@@Mr.Corinthians Calm down Mr Zealot, God is found within the spirit, not within the pages of a tome that has been manipulated and changed by mankind for millennia, for their own personal desires.
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"GOD" isn't going to be mad that you are a fan of fiction and art, what matters is how you live your life, how you treat your neighbors, how you treat the foreigner, live a good life, build a personal relationship with your God, and leave the things that you see as splinters in our eyes and tend to the moat sticking from your own eye.
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You judge others, you make proclamations in the public square for all to see your piety, you pray and worship to show the world your moral superiority over the masses, get into thy closest and pray in private, not on a UA-cam comments section that is discussing art.
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BEGONE FOUL ZEALOT, YOUR BULLSHIT SHALL NOT PASS HERE.
@@joedee9811 I understand that, just for me there was very little context or insight to what, where and why, which is probably alienating for those who were born after Lennon was shot.
@@Mr.Corinthians piss off
And, most importantly, WHERE'S THE TINTIN SEQUEL
My thoughts exactly
I loved watching those original comics and cartoons and miss the fact we only got one movie.
That's the important question. That movie was a lot of fun.
I think that's supposed to be his next project
@@VegimorphtheMovieBoy Yeah, sure. He's been "working on the script" for over a decade now, and he's still trying to figure out which books he even wants to adapt.
LOTR is the only movie (series) where everything seemed to come together: A passionate director with true understanding of the source material, an immaculate casting choice with everyone clearly wanting to be there and wanting the best for those movies, an incredible team of passionate artists, stage builders, and staff producing everything they needed.
When you watch those documentaries you just realize that this project was one of those were every individual part just completely clicked with every other. So much love and passion from everyone involved... I have never seen that in any other film production.
The Dune movies might just be what you're looking for. Denis Villeneuve and Hans Zimmer both absolutely LOVE the source material and it really comes through. And it seems like the entire cast was jazzed to be a part of it too. I hope they do a third movie that adapts the next book with the same level of quality
"A passionate director with true understanding of the source material," I don't know how Jackson apologists keep saying this stuff. He added three hours of terrible content to the LOTR films. Everything good in them came directly from Tolkien. You people love to pretend this didn't happen for some reason and that the films are in any sense faithful-they obviously are not. Jackson is a terrible director and had so many dismal failures afterwards you'd think you people would just drop it but there you are in every yt video singing the praises of this mediocre, shallow director endlessly.
@@thelawenforcerhd9654I am not sure I understand your point? This is THE best adaption of any piece of art ever. It's not easy to translate a book into a movie format. There are an infinite amount of examples of bad adaptations... but this one was really good - and Jackson had a massive part in it? If he's so shit, how did this all work out so well?
one thing that makes my very thankful for PJ, is him bringing a lot of film making to New Zealand. Such a beautiful and stunning place to shoot movies. Even James Cameron works out of NZ now
"Big Jim" Cameron moved to NZ to escape the huge tax bite that California was about to take out of his "Avatar" profits if he was a resident. Taxes for thee, not for me...
Peter Jackson is my hero. When I was a kid I watched his King Kong movie daily for years. Till this day that movie is engraved very deeply in my soul and the only one that can make me tear up. I’m very thankful for his work
It's crazy how good that movie still holds up too for 2005. I used to think Avatar was the first film to really make that BIG jump in CGI quality, but nah I think it was King Kong. 😊
Jeez I feel old.. 😂
@@ProfessuhLemon i prefer his kong over the crap we got now.
Well spoken. That film is beyond groundbreaking and will keep watching it until I croak. Then I’ll keep watching it wherever I go after I croak. :)
@@ProfessuhLemon Hell yeah! The CGI is truly insane, it looks better than many blockbusters! It still amazes me, especially the emotion you can feel from Kong.
From a New Zealander's POV; I think a big reason why he transitioned to docos is the politics of the making The Hobbit films and what it meant for Kiwi film crews. If you're interested in this, I'd google "The Hobbit Law New Zealand".
Yeah, we were hoodwinked into selling our f****ng souls thinking we were just saving the Hobbit films, and our livelihoods! GRRR!
really good point
Holy fuck, it terrifying that Warner Bros was able to bully a national government into changing a law. That was also a really scummy move on PJ's part. He sacrificed his fellow New Zealanders for money.
Do New Zealanders dislike PJ now?
@@archermadsen7744 Nah, Pete does a LOT of good for NZ♥
The Hobbit trilogy broken him.
I remember eagerly waiting for those behind the scene videos like we had done for LOTR and when they started dropping online, I remember understanding instantly that something was wrong because PJ was so clearly and genuinely unhappy. He looked HAUNTED and THAT is what broke my heart about those films. He was placed in an impossible position by the studio coupled with the inevitable backlash from the fan community as well...I mean that would break anyone! I'm just happy to see him doing ANYTHING honestly.
ya, i didnt like The Hobbit movies but i dont hold it against PJ, studios rushed him because $$$
@@DeRockMediaif they had gave Peter 4 years of preproduction and the time that James Cameron had with avatar they who’d have made twice as much more money
Yup! Guillermo worked with us at Weta for years, but f****ng evil Warner Bros Execs just would NOT approve his beautifully dark shooting scripts until in the end he just HAD to leave us😕 So, Pete literally was left with zero pre-pro time before our immovable shoot dates!!!
@@DocTinfoil Hello, I grew up watching the hobbit films and I loved them and even now I love them. But I wanted to get your insight since it seems like you work/worked at Weta? You're saying that Guillermo worked on the hobbit films for years but it was all scrapped and Peter had to make up for all that work? And the due dates of WB had stressed Peter too far?
I agree. Like he was crudely parodying his enthusiasm from the Trilogy behind-the-scenes.
I've always found it crazy how Peter Jackson made about 4 or 5 comedy horror films ranging from obscure to cult favourites... and then makes three of the best and most beloved films of all time seemingly out of the ether
Peter Jackson eviscerated the characters and tone of the book
because book and film are 2 different mediums just like painting and photography. He nailed the story and themes so that means he did a great job.@@reek4062
you have to make sacrifices when adapting such a work to the screen. it's done as good as one can possible do it while still having to obey blockbuster movie rules and politics @@reek4062
Yeah, he just took the right approach: he stuck to the source material.
I find it far more mind boggling how no one else ever thinks of that. Like every adaptation I watch is unrecognizable to it's original source. But the few times it isn't, those are total bangers.
Watchmen is another example. It's just like LotR missing pieces here and there but mostly it's a 1 to 1 translation of the original stuff. Frame by frame. And I loved it seeing the story I knew from the comics come to life. Well maybe except for some details.
It's so easy to make a banger. Like take star wars or marvel for example. They have everything to tell amazing stories for ages. They just refuse to do so and think they can come up with better stuff that has already proven itself. That's where all the bullshit starts we have to endure.
Hell imagine one of the good xmen comic runs on screen in a faithful adaptation. That shit would reach got level of hype. Yes some of those stories were that good.
that some producer somewhere said ! No we want 3 movies! have a billon dollar and go get em! Is really the mystery in my mind.
His movie history does not really sell him as big budget mastermind.
Peter Jackson should help aspiring filmmakers with their projects
Like what he did DISTRICT 9
I was amazed he didn't even say this or mention neill blomkamp when he talked about the halo thing.... o.o
Yeah I've wondered myself I'd Jackson sees Blomkamp as his successor when it comes to filmmaking.
@@Loosha1610District 9 sucks tbh 😂😂 an inconsistent sci fi film that struggles to touch on societal issues.
I did not know PJ co-founded WETA Digital, crazy cause James Cameron is doing a majority of his work with them now. What a crazy associative collab haha.
I never understood why Hollywood has such a great legacy with sci-fi directors but great fantasy film makers seem largely few and far between. So many all-time great directors have dabbled in sci-fi, but I can't really think of many notable film makers known for fantasy, only one that springs to mind is Del Toro.
Sadly Peter Jackson died of laughter after the release of Amazon Prime’s Rings of Power
Amazon had the audacity to make Season 2. The hubris is unbelievable.
It’s ridiculous how good his King Kong is. One of two movies I saw three times in theatres - the other being Fellowship of the Ring
It feels as if the tangible feeling and grit Peter Jackson did earlier and seemed to love (i.e. miniatures, practical effects, sets etc.) have all but disappeared from his line of work these days.
He already made a masterpiece. What else does he need to prove?
It's not about proving anything. It's the fact that he is so well proven that makes people want to see more
He doesn't need to do anything, but its still sad we don't get to experience his creative genius behind big projects he is passionate about anymore.
Peter Jackson was never really blamed for the state of the Hobbit. Everyone knows he was dropped in the deep end with it. I think what killed the Hobbit overall was it being three films. When it should have been two at most. The first Hobbit movie (part 1) I really liked.
And the studio executives pushing for another big epic trilogy like LOTR instead of a more humble film closer to the real Hobbit.
I love the first 2 parts of the hobbit. The 3rd one is not the best but it's better than half of the movies we get today
@@catalandustin51 Not sure about that. I only watched TBOTFA once when it was released theatrically and I have no desire to watch it again. Parts of it are really bad, in fact so bad that I totally disconnected from the movie. It felt they had a script for a 45min episode and had to stretch to nearly 2 1/2 hours. You could clearly tell that Jackson‘s heart wasn‘t in it.
Sigh. Peter Jackson was already involved with the Hobbit films as a writer and producer in 2008. And he made the decision to turn it into a trilogy somewhere in the spring/early summer of 2012, long after a lot of nonsense had already been added.
@@omisan771 Jackson wanted a trilogy.
I remember reading LOTR as a kid. Watching the old feature length cartoon. Thinking there is no way they could make this into a film. What Jackson did was just amazing. He made what I read and the images I made in my head as a kid, in the 80s, into celluloid. The closest to what I read into film. He never has to make a film again with the body of work he did.
The Beatles doc was amazing
Hi everyone, there was a project that was greenlit that was ready to go before the Hobbit trilogy got in the way. It's interesting because nobody seems to know about this, but we were grearing up for it here in New Zealand. The movie was 'The Dam Busters' and it was a retelling of the famous air raid from world war 2. Props were built, WW2 bombers were also being built. Hugh Laurie (Americans know him mostly from 'House') had even written much of the script. Jackson announced it as the next movie and everyone thought we going to see it happen. Next thing you know Guillumo Del Toro pulls out (I met him in Wellington during Hobbit pre-production) and Jackson is forced to step in and 'The Dam Busters' movie died right there.
That would have been great to see. I think there were a bunch of Kiwis involved in the Dambusters squadron as well which would have made it all the more special
His cinematographer, Andrew Lesnie, also died in 2015, less than one year after the final Hobbit film. That could be another reason why Peter dipped out of filmmaking
I think he had such a terrible experience making The Hobbit (followed by The Mortal Engines bombing) he just soured on big budget tentpole pictures. I’d love him to go back to smaller films like Heavenly Creatures but only if he finds a story that speaks to his sensibilities and interests.
Heavenly Creatures is criminally underrated. It took me a while to find that movie to watch lol
You’ve inspired me to start my own channel! Trying to build something like yours. Thank you
The man is 62 years old! Directing takes such a commitment. Even if he were to jump on board a production today it probably wouldn’t be released before he’s 65. So it could be that he doesn’t think he can top the LOTR trilogy or it could simply be the man’s enjoying the fruits of his labour chilling somewhere on a yacht loving his best life.
He’s 8 years younger than James Cameron, but people age differently and not everyone can maintain that level of stamina later in life. I’m blown away by directors like Martin Scorsese who somehow never fail to lose their drive and passion for directing. It’s one of the most difficult jobs in the business.
62 is not an old age.
@@tronam I was about to mention Scorsese. The man is 81 and still making films. PJ could continue creating for years if he wanted to.
@@bgs7529 Literally senior age, which is old by almost everyone's metric. There's a spectrum of old, and 60+ is at least in the indisputably old bracket.
You can still work when you're old. You may be forced to work when you're old. You may have the means to never work again, and choose to follow that.
@@SwobyJLiterally senior age… ha. What does that even mean? Do you mean the completely arbitrary pension age which was mostly defined when people were dying younger and a lot unhealthier? Do you reckon Joe Rogan and Tom Cruise are old seniors? There’s no reason why you shouldn’t be in great shape heading to your 60s in 2024. It’s not the 1980s anymore
Aside from his hilarious cameo in Hot Fuzz, his last great movie was The Adventures of Tin Tin.
He then made two of the best documentaries, particularly with They Shall Not Grow Old. Love the guy
Wow, the Jackson/Lucas parallel never crossed my mind. Excellent observation.
0:30 the way how you talked about learning how the movie was made and that it was so interesting to watch, I have that with the hobbit. I was young and really liked the hobbit. I do know they are nowhere near as great as the lord of the rings but I still have a soft spot for that trilogy.
Jackson damn near deserves a peerage from the UK Crown for his WW1 documentary “They Shall Not Grow Old”
Before advanced generative AI began proliferating, Jackson pushed tech boundaries to produce a breathtaking landmark documentary with utterly groundbreaking technology. I saw it in theaters the day it released in the US. I was blown away by the storytelling and the tech capabilities. It deserves a spot alongside Ken Burns’ “Civil War” as one of the greatest documentaries of all time. And the contribution it made to the cultural legacy of the Great War is invaluable.
He also builds WW1 biplanes from scratch with original parts to have professional pilots dogfight them, so that’s pretty badass imo
Not only did he create the most epic adaptation ever of a wonderful fantasy world, the man went on to create the greatest dinosaur movie ever with King Kong 2005. Now thats a life well lived.
Have always had the dream idea of Peter Jackson directing a Halo movie trilogy.
A competently made film with Martin O’Donnell and Howard Shore working on the score? You’ve got box-office GOLD.
I would NEVER call his post Lord of the Rings work disappointing, especially given what an *important* piece of music history the Get Back documentary has been, how it changed the public narrative of the late Beatles career and their breakup for general audiences and casual fans, and the audio tools he and his team developed in the procees, much like how the LOTR films caused so much innovation. (And that's not even going into his WWI doc.)
Tbh if we follow thru on thr Lucas analogy, I'd rather George had branched out and done something artistic, creative, innovative or meaningful, works like any of Jackson's documentaries, in his later career.
LOTR trilogy is my Star Wars. I was 6 when I saw the Fellowship and it changed my life. I never liked sci-fi so the prequels never appealed to me. Since then, I've been a fantasy nerd.
When LOTR trilogy box set came out on DVD, I constantly had them playing on a PS2, in my bedroom. After watching them, I'd go straight into the special features. Those special features taught me more about film than any high school or college classes I took years later.
I'd love to see Peter Jackson make a film that has the same amount of passion that is shown in his film catalog from 1987-2005. Given how rough the Hobbit production was, I don't blame him for wanting to step back and put all his create juices into documentaries. His WW1 doc, They Shall Not Grow Old, is one of the best war documentaries I've ever seen.
Star Wars isn't science fiction, it is a fantasy set in space. Sci fi explores the causes and consequences of humankind coming in contact with out there technology or discoveries. That was never Star Wars' goal.
I genuinely want to thank you greatly for making this, as there I was - thinking about this exact topic… I think it’s even greater that both Jackson and Lucas have clearly always been leading an expansion of their creativity and exactly what they want to do from the beginning of their art. I don’t think Jackson’s recent documentary work can truly be comparable to his adaption of Tolkien but I love them and I love that this man and his team of people he works with continue to create and produce what they won’t to do!
I remembered District 9 marketing had his name all over, Peter Jackson presents, produced by Peter Jackson etc.
Honestly nothing in Hollywood history will ever top those special features. They're a masterpiece of behind the scenes movie making...just as entertaining as the films themselves.
Never knew Jackson did The Frighteners. I absolutely loved that movie as a kid
I still enjoy that movie! I think it's fun!
It's amazing. Ebert was great but he missed the mark on that one.
They Shall Not Grow Old is absolutely a Must Watch - it’s an extraordinary documentary.
Surely I am not the only one who wonder what if we had gotten Del Toro's The Hobbit, with Peter Jackson being a executive producer. Could he have had the clout/ strength to push back at the studio executives from stopping The Hobbit from basically from being turned into what we got which was a LOTR prequel and instead just 1 unique kids movie with a tiny bit of LOTR easter eggs. So film cirtics could wonder which is better Del Toro's The Hobbit or LOTR. Similar with what if Edgar Wright had gotten to direct AND keep his version of Antman without the Marvel machine steamrolling down and unique aspect of it
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The 'Hobbit' trilogy is Jackson's vision; the supposed studio meddling are just conspiracy theories.
Watched this channel for a long time and never heard you say something positive before so I haven't been watching lately. I'm glad you aren't negative about everything. Your channel has that complainy vibe tbh so this is refreshing
I guess you didn’t watch my recent Invincible season 2 review
I thought King Kong was underrated it's so good, it also has a dark tone which I like.
I can understand people like Jackson and Lucas. They start out on low level stuff to exercise their creative side and that leads to them realising the possibility of taking it higher and developing a grand vision, in the case of directors it's a big budget film. Then after that, that's it. They made that achievement. They got it off their chest. Now they can relax and focus on other low level projects that pique their interest or inspires them.
Some directors start off small then make it big, then try to keep churning out one success after another. Each being more grand than the previous. While other directors are suited to small indie stuff but occasionally will have a huge project brewing inside them and they just happen to hit it big when they make it and it pays off, especially if they have to develop new technology or start up a company just to get it off the ground.
Kong 2005 is one of my favorite films of all time. Genuinely. So much heart despite some uneven spots. The cast was perfect, and the moments between Anne & Kong are all so sweet and emotional. My favorite version of Kong for sure, as it made me feel on a level no other remake has ever been able to.
Beautiful soundtrack and super creepy rendition of Skull Island as well!
Jack Black and Adrian Brody were terrible casting choices and King Kong ice skating with Naomi Watts was one of the dumbest things I've ever seen in a movie.
@@HarryBuddhaPalm I thought both were terrific, and I also thought the ice skating scene was incredibly touching. :)
Another factor to consider: All the big name directors are stepping back now (arguably, except for Cameron): Speilberg, and the others are tired of having their creative impulses blocked by Hollywood producers, and the DEI/ESG agenda that requires them to prioritize casting over writing and plot.
13 years after Tintin was released, it's not too late to start work on the sequel! I had been looking forward to that for a long time. At this stage in Jackson's career, this would be a perfect project for him: childhood heroes and cutting edge technology.
I agree a sequel would be nice
Yea, I watched the movie several times and every time the movie ends, I feel sad there isn't another one I could watch. I love what they did with the caracters ob Tintin! like LOTR it is a homage to the original books which I loved as a child.
There is a sequel coming
Peter Jackson will forever be a GOAT, not just for the LOTR trilogy but now for helping the last Beatles track finally get made after so many years of waiting.
Peter Jackson has goats?
@@UndeadSlayer5A lot of people with property in New Zealand do so, probably yeah
Braindead is one of my favorite movies of all time, as well as Fellowship. The guy has made two masterpieces in two completely different veins, so I'm ok if he doesn't do anything ever again
These are the greatest trilogy movies ever Peter and his team are at the head table the love tht went into these films has yet to be repeated.❤
I literally just started the Return of the King audiobook today and I’ve been listening to each book, followed by Peter Jackson, Phillipa Boyens, and Fran Walsh’s commentary for each movie and then the appendices documentaries. Those extended dvds with all the bonus features are a pillar of my love for film and the art of movie making. Sean Astin said that his father worked for Peter on a film and talked about the passion Peter and Fran bring to a production and I feel like while others have that passion, Jackson and Walsh inspire their cast and crews with that same passion and it shines through the brightest with LotR. I wish he’d direct something where he’s given the amount of prep time he had for Rings but I’m not sure what it would be. He is a tremendous storyteller who has changed the way I see movies
ya, prep time is needed for sure, wish he had the same prep time for The Hobbit before rushing it
Peter Jackson, Fran Walsh and Philippa Boyens thought they could do better than J.R.R. Tolkien.
@1:49 Peter Jackson and his body of work is my go-to rebuttal to "what's the difference between AI training and a human training" because if you train an AI on Peter Jackson's previous work and then type in "Peter Jackson's LOTR" you're not getting the masterpiece we got.
I think Jackson’s King Kong is seriously underrated. I love it, also the special features come close to being as good as the LOTR.
It's decent, but too over the top sometimes
He did Get Back! The documentary that has had SUCH an impact on The Beatles. Without Peter Jackson, we wouldn't have Now and Then.
Yes! Fellowship is by far the best LotRs film - it's the ultimate road movie! I loved it so much even at release that TT and RotK, while very, very good, just didn't hit me the way Fellowship did
Same here. Unfortunately the Hobbit movies turned out to be pretty average (well at least the first tow instalments, the third one is really bad) and for me kinda tainted Middle Earth.
Robert Zemekis fits this category too I think. He used to make interesting stuff, then got obsessed with special effects and never came out of it.
Why does no one talk about like Chris Columbus or Robert zemeckis, I swear they disappeared after the 90s, but great video
Robert Zemeckis? He's directed TONS of big movies since the 90's. Cast Away, The Polar Express, A Christmas Carol, Flight, etc... Chris Columbus started Harry Potter in 2001, one of the biggest franchises ever. Tried (and failed) to do it with Percy Jackson in 2010. Whether all of their work has been noteworthy or even good is debatable, but they've literally never gone away for long.
I remember when this video came out, and it did at the right time. I was looking into peter Jackson at director focused essay and watching most of his movies. It was fun seeing him go from one way of movies to the next. Thank you for this video. ❤
In a way Gareth Edwards is similar to Peter Jackson, he had two big hits with Godzilla and Rogue One then turned down Godzilla: King of the Monsters. He subsequently did the modest budget film The Creator.
Also his directing the new Jurassic World movie.
I recently watched the first two Hobbit films and The Fellowship of the Ring, and of course, Fellowship is still a timeless masterpiece (as are the other two LOTR films), and as for An Unexpected Journey and The Desolation of Smaug, while they were lacking in character development, especially in the case of the dwarves (except Thorin), they were still impressive in terms of scale, size, and creativity, and to an extent, emotional storytelling. And of course, Martin Freeman as Bilbo was the best part of the Hobbit trilogy.
I may get trashed for that, but I actually prefer the Hobbit movies over Lord of the Rings: They catched me far more emotionally and I like the smaller scope of the story. Might also be because the Hobbit films were my first experience with Middle-earth.
And I know that he didn't want to do the Hobbit initially (because he didn't want to do anything again in this scope), but from the video blogs I've always got the feeling that he grew on it.
@@odysseasgrigoriadis1077 Exactly. I never got the feeling that he hated it and I watched all the behind appendixes. I think people are really riding the train of shitting on the hobbit movies because they've heard others do so and/or because they're nostalgic about lotr
Jackson has 100% earned just sitting in his little studio in New Zealand making painstakingly remastered documentaries.
There are certain men who come along at a certain point in history, at exactly the right time and place, and leave their legacy. Peter Jackson is clearly one of those men.
I wish more than anything he made more films with the passion he had for lotr and Kong. To me he’s the greatest director to ever walk the earth just because of those movies.
Crazy to think how much better the cinema world might have been if the studios left Guillermo del Toro the hell alone and let him make whatever Hobbit movie he wanted to make.
If he had hired a more experienced director for MORTAL ENGINES
That movie would've been better
Actually, Christian had worked with us for YEARS honing his visual skills. It was mostly Fran & also Peter's constant MEDDLING in it that effed things up for him! He simply wasn't allowed to properly DIRECT his film! (BOY am I in trouble now!)
@@DocTinfoil You worked (or still working) at Weta? I lived in NZ for a while and some of my friends are working there and without wanting to stir any pots, I got the feeling from them that Peter and Fran are nice people but can be very demanding.
King Kong is underrated. I think that movie is perfect what it is (it would not be appropriate pacing/ratio of action and spectacle for a Tolkien adaptation).
Still waiting for the Tintin sequel😪
I actually loved The Frighteners. It's a very complex story which was very well executed.
I’m still hoping he returns to low budget horror someday, he could do some fun crazy stuff
I remembered being really excited that he had produced District 9 and might go on to produce more like that and it just didn't go anywhere.
It's about time🎉
never knew he might do a halo movie. Honestly a Halo movie around 2009 themed in the Halo 3 era by Peter Jackson could have been amazing
I honestly hope Peter Jackson makes horror movies again. Maybe not on the same budget/scale as _Lord of the Rings_ , or the slap-sticky-ness as _Dead-Alive_ , but sharing a unique perspective within the genre.
Thank you for this video. So many time I have always wondered what happened to Peter Jackson and why nk one talks about him that much anymore. And I always seem to forget to Google him lol. I really do miss him. LOTR...The Frighteners,King Kong and the Lovely Bones were great.
I think you missed an important point in the comparison with George Lucas and Peter Jackson. It’s the point George Lucas created his universe while Peter Jackson didn’t. I think this goes a long way of showing why Peter Jackson is much more focused on the technological part in his later career. If there is a great bit of source material available for Peter then he would go for it. Even the mention of James Cameron, look at all the different stories that have become blockbusters he has been involved in. Peter Jackson hasn’t showed he had this new story building in him while he a very good technical director.
Another great video ❤but now I really have to go and watch Braindead, it looks like peak horror-comedy movie!
I'm glad he gets to do what inspires him too. But it does make me sad because he was once attached to a project making an adaptation of the "Temeraire" or as it is known in America " His Majesties Dragon" series by Naomi Novik. Set in an alternative fantasy history during the Napoleonic wars where Dragons are real animals used for warfare. Think Horatio Hornblower+ How to Train Your Dragon.
Now Fox animation has the rights and I fear for the future.
"They shall not grow old". That for me was SO powerful that I was emotionally impacted. He brought us inside a REAL war. People don’t take that movie into account when talking about Jackson.
Personally, I think Jackson is fantastic - he is someone who is doing what he wants to do. Experimenting. Doing whatever he likes. I admire him for that.
Viggo nailed it when he said that Jackson got bit by the CGI bug. After fellowship saw success Jackson lost the way and went down the path of relying on computer generated imagination in place of true creativity.
Nah man, Viggo Mortensen also thought that about Two Towers and Return of the King and he was wrong there too. The Hobbit films weren't bad because of CG (though there was certainly an over-reliance on it) and this disrespect towards the hard work of digital effects artists is utter nonsense. These effects are not "Computer Generated", they are _made by artists_ on a computer. Practical effects and miniatures are great but they are no more creative than CG. It's all about how it's used. Most CG you see these days is invisible, and the stuff that isn't hidden is frequently extremely creative and stunning. Even films that supposedly have "no CG" are absolutely filled with subtle CG work. You just don't notice.
@@ninjadodovideos He was right there too.*
Fixed it for you.
Not disrespect for artists, just the reality of what happens when you overly rely on CG instead of writing and practicals.
@@Some_Scott Nope, wrong again. Return of the King and Towers were both magnificent. A computer is a *tool* just like a pencil, or the clay and foam and paint used to build miniatures. If you think digital art imagined and meticulously crafted BY ARTISTS are any less creative than physical art _you don't know anything._
@@ninjadodovideos Always funny when low IQ people claim objective authority on subjective issues while also disregarding all nuance and other aspects of an argument. Please, carry on. 😂🤣💀
The Beatles biopic was awesome? I'm excited for his next work.
Wasn't Lovely Bones written by the author who got a man wrongfully convicted for one of the worst crimes imaginable?
She identified someone other than the man who was convicted during the lineup, but the prosecutor charged him anyway and pushed the victim into testifying against him. They also used faulty forensic evidence to frame him.
"It was the court. It was the system. It's not the victim's fault."
- Anthony Broadwater
Going from a successful LOTR trilogy, to working on his dream project King Kong must have been surreal.
imagine if peter jackson directed a percy jackson movie that would be funny
I would love him to do an uncharted movie with the same style as tintin. Bringing the original actors from the uncharted games to do the motion capture and voices so it looks the same as the games.
Tintin in a brilliant movie and we haven't seen anything else quite like it since. It's a real shame that everything is live action with crappy CGI nowadays.
Man, you have a cool voice. But would it kill you to have longer and more detailed videos?
Making the Hobbit more than one movie was the worst decision the studios could have made and are probably what killed his passion, how do you go from LOTR to packing such a short book into 3 films just so the studios can cash out more
To this day, I still have only seen 2/3 of the LOTR trilogy, but I have seen the extended version The Hobbit trilogy, and I actually thought it was pretty good, it had some issues, sure, but I liked it when I watched it at the time (and I even waited 3 consecutive years for each extended version to come out on DVD). Lastly, I would love to see Peter Jackson direct Thor 5, but if that’s never gonna happen, then at least he should direct an episode of Doctor Who like he always wanted.
I think a lot of what influences artists changes with age, when you're younger as in most things you have something prove, it's gotta bigger and badder than everything else out there because you have to stand out.
As you begin to get older, those things don't mean as much to you as they once did, oftentimes you will just want to be in the moment and contemplate things a little more.
From how Peter Jackson was treated from studio interference and audience reception from the Hobbit Trilogy, im not surprised he just wants to take a break from big budget movies. There are discussions of him helping with some other prequels of the Lotr like the war with the Witch King which would be amazing.
He made the best damn Beatles film of all time and miraculously got Now and Then released. That's what!
As someone who worked on the LOTR motion capture and so had some contact with WETA during that time period: I would agree he is following the George Lucas playbook loosely, with WETA being his ILM. Saw you got there too at the end, but I think there is the additional element of making New Zealand a place to shoot and do film work that adds to the pressure on him. Oh and on the Frighteners, Patrick Runyon (look for him on IMDB), blamed the marketing for the Frighteners. Said Miramax dropped the ball on that one. Of course, that is an easy excuse for someone on the production side. I was only about 20 at the time, so no idea. I remember liking it for what it is worth.
I’m going to get a lot of hate for this: I think The Hobbit Trilogy is actually not that bad. No, it’s not a masterpiece like LOTR Trilogy, but I wasn’t expecting it to be since those films can never be topped. However, in light of the show The Rings of Power and this upcoming animated film called The War of the Rohirrim (look it up) it feels as if LOTR is going to get oversaturated as a franchise, and so looking back on The Hobbit Trilogy it feels like there was at least SOME passion behind it to make a good trilogy, unlike nowadays where it’s just quantity over quality.
It's rare to see this openly spoken online, but I feel the exact same way, and have done so for years. The films as they currently stand have many well-documented flaws, but in my eyes there's a plethora of qualities that don't get their due attention. Without Jackson at the helm, it might have fallen apart or turned out worse.
I hope The War of the Rohirrim is made with passion and respect for the material, because we will not get that from the Amazon series in any way, shape, or form.