To answer your question about DR n/-, "n" is the value of your DR and "-" is nothing. So DR 5/- would be damage reduction 5, overcome by nothing. This is often referred to as "flat" DR.
Yep. "Universal" is another name I've seen used, and one I like, as it's just that - universal reduction; everything. But flat is good too :) same same!
My group just calls it slash dash (cause you hit the thing, do no damage, then run away to figutre out what actually hurts it) because it sounds exciting but "flat" or "universal", as others have said, is the general terminology. 👍🏻
One thing about Favorite Metamagic is that if you've selected the extend spell metamagic, it makes extending spells free. In the late game, if you combine your spellbook for a CL of 25+, extending spells with metamagic allows you to get a 24 hour duration from spells that have a duration of 1 round/level, so long as you have the greater enduring spell mythic feat
Yeah, there is a bunch of great round/level buff spells and they would be amaaazing if you get them all day... In some senses, the feats for Abundant Casting and the ones for extending it (forget their name) + Extend metamagic arrive at similar places... both will give you a lot of excess slots to use for other spells that would otherwise get used up for buffing... You've got the "just give me more slots" strategy, and the "make some of my slots go way further so I don't need to keep using more to reapply the same effects, so I ultimately have more left over" strategy. Each have their strengths and weaknesses :) . Personally I think I'll be going the Abundant route, as it better suits my playstyle, but the extended route is absolutely valid and probably the right thing to do for many players :)
@@mduckernz Wizards are going to be super silly strong later on, more so than Kingmaker by far because of this... spontaneous casters going to be looking sad.
This is super cool. Just have one minion focused on taking this. This person now can just buff the group and all the others can focus on increasing their spells per day.
@@orarinnsnorrason4614 Doesn't work as well there, as the companions can't merge their spell book with a mythic one, so they won't ever get 1 round/level spells to last 24 hours, because they can't reach a caster level of 25.
Holy carp the greater abundant casting unlocks some sweet multiclassing options. A lot of my builds in Kingmaker took just enough levels of a caster to get 'a' 9th level spell, then used the rest on dips for other utility - but with greater abundant casting you get four more casts of that 9th level slot, which means even if you juuust make it to 9th level spells, you are guaranteed a minimum 5 casts if it.
The mythic paths in general opens up great multiclassing, With things like the lich for example being able to merge with certain spellbooks, Which gives you a higher effective spellcasting level which opens up higher spell levels, For instance i played a Wizard/EK/Fighter multiclass and i had three attacks and 9th level spells at 16~ ish levels because of mythic path levels.
Shadow spells are Illusion school spells where you can pick from a level range of spells then the target needs to make a Will Save to believe/disbelieve. If they fail this save they make a second save as determined by the spell you are shadow casting (reflex for fireball) as normal. If they make the will save then they disbelieve and the spell either does a x% of the rolled damage or has a x% chance of working. That mythic feat is essentially 20% more damage or chance to work. BTW the main draw of shadow spells is by focusing on illusion DC you can actually have a higher relative save enemies need to make, even with two saves, and you have a lot of spells to pick from in just one spell slot. Its a super duper cool series of spells. Shadow, Summoning kind of blows though, tbh.
Interesting okay thank you for the breakdown. They are col but I will continue to stay away from that Mythic option. I feel like there are better abilities even when using Nenio.
@@SlanderedGaming Agreed, I have a Shadow Oracle in a PNP campaign and I am not taking any of those powers. By boosting your DC you get a lot more mileage. Boosting realism isn't really worth it over boosting DC. Furthermore the spells selection in the CRPG versions is vastly neutered for shadow. Nice on sorcerer but thats about it.
Nice you got this out so quickly. For the record, while I see someone else has suggested 'flat DR' as how to say it, personally, I say 'En slash dash', though I have absolutely no basis to call that a 'correct' answer, it just rolls off the tongue nicely, I feel. Battle Meditation: actually looks fairly good for specific spellcasters. 'Staggered' simply means they can only do a standard or move action each round (and they can't actually move). Most (though not all) spells are standard actions. It doesn't seem to be limited, either. Get into position (ideally before combat even starts - points in stealth may help?), pop this off, then just cast normally while buffing your party. Morale bonuses are fairly rare, if you don't have a bard in the team, so they should stack nicely. Last Stand: Should be pronounced 'Crit insurance policy'. ;) Limitless Rage: Does this work with Skalds? I vaguely recall hearing that it didn't at least, but I could be misremembering, or it could have changed. Powerful Shadows: Not sure if this is correct, but I heard it described a little different from how you did. The way I heard it was that these spells give two saves - a Will save to disbelieve it, then the normal save the spell would allow. If they fail to disbelieve, the spell takes full effect. If they successfully disbelieve, the spell only takes partial effect, depending on the specific spell - so with the low-level (level 4?) variant, it's only 20% real, so a damaging spell that's disbelieved will only do 20% damage of a normal spell. Powerful Shadows would up that to 40%, rather than provide any bonuses to prevent them from disbelieving it, which is the impression I got from what you said. Either way, I'd only use it on a Phantasmal Mage, and probably not as a priority. Witch Wandering Hex: it does specifically say you can select *any* Witch Hex, not 'any hex valid for your level' or whatever, so does that mean you can take literally *any* hex (like, even Grand Hexes before you're level 18)? Wouldn't think so, but that is what a literal reading seems to imply. Anyway, that was interesting, thank you.
Not sure about Skalds. Witch Wandering Hex only let's you choose Hex's you have access to. I always have Heroism or Greater Heroism so the Morale buff from Battle Meditation is useless for me.
Great work! I would just say you actually get a crossbow in act 4 that makes your heal spells reach so it might be worth repeccing your healer at that stage to get a more useful ability. I definitely agree that everready should probably be your first pick as a melee type as it is frontloaded, whereas the others scale a lot. Regill + everready +outflank+ combat reflexes + seize the moment is a shredding machine. If you pair him with Camellia with the same teamwork feats, her low crit rate means he gets tons of acts of opportunities. Also a lot of people build Wenduag as a melee act of opportunity archer with snapshot/greater shapshot so everready is great for her in these sorts of builds too. Also, what mythic path you take can definitely change how good these abilities are too. Trickster gives you the improved improved critical line which reduces the crit rate 2 times, which makes seize the moment and everready incredibly powerful
I can see the benefit of Inspiring Leader on someone who's not in the thick of things or on any rogue character. It helps the party to gain more alpha strikes (taking action before the enemy, therefore potential kill before they can get a hit in).
@@SlanderedGaming Yes ofc. But, if you look closely you'll see that at the start of every combat initiative is rolled regardless of what method you're using. So having high initiative is always useful, specially if you have a powerful group that can deal high damage on their first attack.
Inspiring Leader + Battle Meditation + Boundless Healer = Daeran sitting in the middle of your team buffing and healing the hell out of them! Has been working great on my current playthrough especially since my MC is a lich with Ascendant summoning so those aoe buffs are even more useful! Core difficulty and turn based though im not sure it's really viable for real time or at higher difficulties. I'm also no min-maxer so no idea if thats really worth it or not xD
Holy isn't an option for ascendant element because it's not "energy" damage. Positive and negative are energy damage types. Holy, axiomatic, etc.. are just damage types.
Sosiel has Luck and Good domain, and their domain abilities are really great! Luck is roll 2 d20 and take the better result for 1 round. That about doubles a characters crit chanse for example. He is one of the best companions in my opinion for this, as you can build him to be truly powerful melee character. Clerics gains so many great personal buffs! You almost got to play in Turn Based however to take advantage of it.
Right and most of the time I play RTwP so maybe that's why I haven't used it as much. This recent playthrough is the most I have played turn based in the game.
Always a Chance is something one of players just needs on the regular, the Randomness of Roll20 is constantly throwing Nat 1s on his attacks. And this is over the course of multiple different games we have played together.
There's something about Mythic Charge I don't think was mentioned. Currently, the extra 1d6 per mythic rank gets applied to ALL attacks made during a charge. Meaning if you charge on a character with the pounce ability, you get 1d6/mythic rank on the charge+EVERY attack in a full round attack action. Mileage will still vary on how good the ability is I think, but if playing on a pouncing character, it's a must-take imo.
What you said is true but the problem is there are too many situations where the game won't let you charge. Every time that happens it's a lost opportunity for the damage Leading Strike would provided . Especially if you are mostly playing RTwP. If you are doing turned based on every single battle and always selecting Charge then that's different but I would argue most people aren't playing that way.
@@SlanderedGaming That's a fair point. I was thinking more about the turn-based gameplay style since that's what I"m planning to use, so I wasn't considering its relative strength in RTwP vs turn-based.
Mythic charge is better than leading strike if you are doing more than one attack during a charge, because each attack is granted the extra DMG. Leading strike only hit once
On a charge you only get one attack unless you have pounce so if you're going for a charge focus or not is what determines which is best. Also, in RTWP leading strike will be brutal unless its hard limited to once per round.
I agree with 815, Mythic Charge is better if you have pounce AND you are playing in turn based combat. If you don't have pounce and you are playing RTwP, Leading Strike is the clearly superior option. In RTwP you will miss many opportunities to use Charge and consequently Mythic Charge will do less damage over the course of your playthrough.
I don’t know if owlcat did this on purpose or accident, but pathfinder usually uses divine damage as a non element that always does full damage. Clerics don’t usually have to worry about reduction on their damage, and some spells deal like half divine damage and half elemental damage and the divine damage is not mitigated
Are you referring to my comment about why is Holy in the elemental list? Apparently Pathfinder does not treat Holy as an element. Holy, Axiomatic, and Unholy are all not considered elements in the game.
Heya, I know this is my commenting on a 2 year old video but I am confused. Bloodrager gives your a bloodline. But for whatever reason it doesn't seem to qualify for Bloodline Ascendant. And I really want a tank with Bloodline Ascendant, ANy suggestions?
Defo gonna take mythic charge on my planned Kitsune mutagen warrior, they get a racial feat that lets you do your full attack on a charge, gonna be a dual wielder so when hasted will be a ton of attacks getting that sweet 1d6 per mythic rank. :D
You might be underestimating Elemental Barrage. It's not just a late game ability for casters. I don't know if this was intentional, but in beta, it worked not just for spells but elemental weapons. E.g. there's one Kukri you get in act 3 iirc, that deals three different elements (if I recall correctly it was Fire, Lightning, and Acid). Combine that with Thundering Blows (sonic) or other sources of elemental (such as White Dragon armor for Cold), and you're triggering Elemental Barrage multiple times a round for tons of divine damage. It's likely the biggest source of damage for fast attackers such as two weapon fighters.
@@SlanderedGaming I actually wasn't aware that it referred to spells. Maybe I didn't pay attention to the flavour text. Then *something* is wrong, whether it's the effect or the flavour text, because it definitely works the way I was describing. and yea dude, I was pretty excited when I found this interaction out (and finding that kukri). I thought it was abnormally strong, but I got used to it quick, especially with how many other overpowered combos there are available that actually make this damage seem "par for the course". :P When my Greybor with this combo (white dragon, the kukri, thundering blows, and other buffs on) is barely able to keep up with Wenduag without shenanigans. It's definitely "great" for melee, but I think ranged damage-dealers have just been exceptionally strong in Kingmaker and WOTR - especially now that there are half-decent throwing axes. So I stopped thinking it was an OP bug over time. haha.
@@asw654 LOL Maybe you'll luck out and it won't be patched upon release. I just experienced someone using throwing axes against me in the Demon playthrough. I might have to setup Wenduag with those, it was absolutely brutal.
Always a Chance: Basically it's saying that a 'nat one' is an auto miss, no matter if you had the bonuses to hit even if you rolled that low. With that ability, it's not an auto-fail so there's a chance you can still hit. However, obviously the target has to have a pretty low AC and/or you have to be buffed to have any chance at all. Add that to being on top of the base 5% chance of this ability coming up... still not worth it.
Does the Abundant Spell ability work with Mystic Theurge Prestige Class? because if it does that means a lot of spell for both the 2 classes that are needed to qualify.
Thundering Blows is sooo much better than Leading strike. 2d6 more damage, that hits multiple targets, every round. Leading strike does nothing if YOU kill your target, so some rounds it is no help at all. You also don't need an ally near by for it to work.
Leading Strike is better. It scales as enemies get tougher while TB will always only do 12 damage at most per round. In Act 4 12 damage just cuts a little off the top of their health bar, meanwhile the 30-48 damage LS is doing will definitely turn heads.
@@SlanderedGaming Wait what? TB is 2d6 PLUS 1d6 per 2 mythic rank meaning 7d6(up to 42 damage at rank 10) Leading Strike tops out at 10d6(max 60 damage), but TB will do that 7d6 to ALL ENEMIES in a 10 ft radius. If there is at least 1 enemy within 10 feet TB is better, if there are several enemies which is often the case, TB is way better.
Elemental barrage does not say it needs to be magical, so it should be really good for magus, spirit hunter, and paladin who can put 2 different elements to their weapon
The description says "You mastered the art of raining elemental spells..." so honestly I am not sure about that. Currently it does work with weapons but I am not certain it will remain that way after full release.
Your not thinking of Elemental Barge right, MELEE Cammy can use it with her Shaman powers and do multi elemental damage in one round. Specially if your switch her to dual weapon fighting. So one weapon actually triggers the other weapons element and you get the damage every couple of hits from her weapons added. Magic Nullifier your wrong too. YOu need to have it activated when you buff and you don't loose the buffs. It than only effects any magic attacks. Like I been totally fireball and it did nothing to me. The only time it takes your buff off is if you turn it on after being buffed.
I didn't count that because the description of the ability specifically mentions spells. A couple of other people mentioned that they have used it with weapons but it doesn't seem like that was what Owlcat intended. They may patch it before the full release.
Does Inspirational Leader stack? If so you can almost guarantee your entire team goes first, Mind effecting effects and concentration checks would become a joke.
It should apply to both. I know it applies to Shapeshifting form but cannot confirm Dragon Shape for you. I feel like if it didn't though that is something that definitely would've been reported by now. You should be safe.
@@SlanderedGaming Just got to test it out on dragon form 1, and it works on that too. DR was some of the set back with a melee dragon build in Kingsmaker. Now that ability to ignore DR it it should be better.
I'm a bit confused about your statement that Seelah gets the sabre-tooth tiger as a pet? I can't seem to find that information anywhere. I know she gets a horse at level 5, can't see anything about the tiger though. Am I wrong? Greats video's btw, finding them incredibly helpful. edit: Apparently it was changed to a horse instead of the tiger on full release. Is the horse still as good as the tiger? Think it's still worth getting the mythic beast ability?
Thanks glad you are enjoying the content. In my opinion the Horse is definitely still helpful just in a different way. While the Tiger was fantastic at damage the horse is a great tank. I gave it the clas that automatically provides barding feats and stuck some medium armor on it. In formation I have the horse out in front of everybody else. Takes hard heats like a champ as long as it's buffed properly. Seelah can make up for the loss of damage. :)
@@SlanderedGaming And, something I have noticed in my playthrough....It's worth having Seelah mount the horse, because it allows her to move further and faster in one go (Especially useful if you're using Turn Based combat)
11:07 Cleaving shot, is it a 10 foot radius of you, or the enemy you killed? If it's you this is awful as you are not usually standing near enemies as a ranged fighter. 10 foot from the enemy you killed is OK, thought still not great.
@@kellysamuel3383 Yeah. Lann makes a million attacks due to being a Zen Archer, often opening combat with those Full Round Actions, so it's such a natural fit.
To answer your question about DR n/-, "n" is the value of your DR and "-" is nothing. So DR 5/- would be damage reduction 5, overcome by nothing. This is often referred to as "flat" DR.
Flat DR! That is what I will use. Thank you so much. I know I am not the only content creator who was confused by this.
Yep. "Universal" is another name I've seen used, and one I like, as it's just that - universal reduction; everything. But flat is good too :) same same!
Untyped is another way to say it
My group just calls it slash dash (cause you hit the thing, do no damage, then run away to figutre out what actually hurts it) because it sounds exciting but "flat" or "universal", as others have said, is the general terminology. 👍🏻
It can also be called untyped damage reduction.
Last Stand would be much more attractive outside a video game, but here we already have the ultimate survivability tool - quicksave.
LMFAO Yeah that too.
One thing about Favorite Metamagic is that if you've selected the extend spell metamagic, it makes extending spells free. In the late game, if you combine your spellbook for a CL of 25+, extending spells with metamagic allows you to get a 24 hour duration from spells that have a duration of 1 round/level, so long as you have the greater enduring spell mythic feat
Whoaaaaa!!!!!!! I didn't even think of that combination. 24 hour haste would be INCREDIBLE. Thanks for pointing this out!
Yeah, there is a bunch of great round/level buff spells and they would be amaaazing if you get them all day...
In some senses, the feats for Abundant Casting and the ones for extending it (forget their name) + Extend metamagic arrive at similar places... both will give you a lot of excess slots to use for other spells that would otherwise get used up for buffing...
You've got the "just give me more slots" strategy, and the "make some of my slots go way further so I don't need to keep using more to reapply the same effects, so I ultimately have more left over" strategy. Each have their strengths and weaknesses :) .
Personally I think I'll be going the Abundant route, as it better suits my playstyle, but the extended route is absolutely valid and probably the right thing to do for many players :)
@@mduckernz Wizards are going to be super silly strong later on, more so than Kingmaker by far because of this... spontaneous casters going to be looking sad.
This is super cool. Just have one minion focused on taking this. This person now can just buff the group and all the others can focus on increasing their spells per day.
@@orarinnsnorrason4614 Doesn't work as well there, as the companions can't merge their spell book with a mythic one, so they won't ever get 1 round/level spells to last 24 hours, because they can't reach a caster level of 25.
Damn bro, you really did this tedious job, I salute you.
LMFAO I've had multiple people ask me about some of the abilities so now I can just point them towards this vid.
Holy carp the greater abundant casting unlocks some sweet multiclassing options. A lot of my builds in Kingmaker took just enough levels of a caster to get 'a' 9th level spell, then used the rest on dips for other utility - but with greater abundant casting you get four more casts of that 9th level slot, which means even if you juuust make it to 9th level spells, you are guaranteed a minimum 5 casts if it.
Yeah it opens up a lot of wonderful options.
The mythic paths in general opens up great multiclassing, With things like the lich for example being able to merge with certain spellbooks, Which gives you a higher effective spellcasting level which opens up higher spell levels, For instance i played a Wizard/EK/Fighter multiclass and i had three attacks and 9th level spells at 16~ ish levels because of mythic path levels.
I'm going back and doing a KM run, it makes it feel so weak now not having those mythic paths.
Nice summary ... it's nice to understand what they do since they have such a huge impact on your character.
My pleasure, glad you enjoyed the video!
Shadow spells are Illusion school spells where you can pick from a level range of spells then the target needs to make a Will Save to believe/disbelieve. If they fail this save they make a second save as determined by the spell you are shadow casting (reflex for fireball) as normal. If they make the will save then they disbelieve and the spell either does a x% of the rolled damage or has a x% chance of working. That mythic feat is essentially 20% more damage or chance to work. BTW the main draw of shadow spells is by focusing on illusion DC you can actually have a higher relative save enemies need to make, even with two saves, and you have a lot of spells to pick from in just one spell slot. Its a super duper cool series of spells. Shadow, Summoning kind of blows though, tbh.
Interesting okay thank you for the breakdown. They are col but I will continue to stay away from that Mythic option. I feel like there are better abilities even when using Nenio.
@@SlanderedGaming Agreed, I have a Shadow Oracle in a PNP campaign and I am not taking any of those powers. By boosting your DC you get a lot more mileage. Boosting realism isn't really worth it over boosting DC. Furthermore the spells selection in the CRPG versions is vastly neutered for shadow. Nice on sorcerer but thats about it.
Nice you got this out so quickly.
For the record, while I see someone else has suggested 'flat DR' as how to say it, personally, I say 'En slash dash', though I have absolutely no basis to call that a 'correct' answer, it just rolls off the tongue nicely, I feel.
Battle Meditation: actually looks fairly good for specific spellcasters. 'Staggered' simply means they can only do a standard or move action each round (and they can't actually move). Most (though not all) spells are standard actions. It doesn't seem to be limited, either. Get into position (ideally before combat even starts - points in stealth may help?), pop this off, then just cast normally while buffing your party. Morale bonuses are fairly rare, if you don't have a bard in the team, so they should stack nicely.
Last Stand: Should be pronounced 'Crit insurance policy'. ;)
Limitless Rage: Does this work with Skalds? I vaguely recall hearing that it didn't at least, but I could be misremembering, or it could have changed.
Powerful Shadows: Not sure if this is correct, but I heard it described a little different from how you did. The way I heard it was that these spells give two saves - a Will save to disbelieve it, then the normal save the spell would allow. If they fail to disbelieve, the spell takes full effect. If they successfully disbelieve, the spell only takes partial effect, depending on the specific spell - so with the low-level (level 4?) variant, it's only 20% real, so a damaging spell that's disbelieved will only do 20% damage of a normal spell. Powerful Shadows would up that to 40%, rather than provide any bonuses to prevent them from disbelieving it, which is the impression I got from what you said. Either way, I'd only use it on a Phantasmal Mage, and probably not as a priority.
Witch Wandering Hex: it does specifically say you can select *any* Witch Hex, not 'any hex valid for your level' or whatever, so does that mean you can take literally *any* hex (like, even Grand Hexes before you're level 18)? Wouldn't think so, but that is what a literal reading seems to imply.
Anyway, that was interesting, thank you.
Not sure about Skalds. Witch Wandering Hex only let's you choose Hex's you have access to. I always have Heroism or Greater Heroism so the Morale buff from Battle Meditation is useless for me.
Great work! I would just say you actually get a crossbow in act 4 that makes your heal spells reach so it might be worth repeccing your healer at that stage to get a more useful ability.
I definitely agree that everready should probably be your first pick as a melee type as it is frontloaded, whereas the others scale a lot. Regill + everready +outflank+ combat reflexes + seize the moment is a shredding machine. If you pair him with Camellia with the same teamwork feats, her low crit rate means he gets tons of acts of opportunities. Also a lot of people build Wenduag as a melee act of opportunity archer with snapshot/greater shapshot so everready is great for her in these sorts of builds too.
Also, what mythic path you take can definitely change how good these abilities are too. Trickster gives you the improved improved critical line which reduces the crit rate 2 times, which makes seize the moment and everready incredibly powerful
I haven't seen any of the Trickster feats so that is really good to know. Thanks glad you enjoyed the video!
I can see the benefit of Inspiring Leader on someone who's not in the thick of things or on any rogue character. It helps the party to gain more alpha strikes (taking action before the enemy, therefore potential kill before they can get a hit in).
I think it has very clear uses if you are playing turn based mode. In RTwP I would say it's usefulness is much more limited.
@@SlanderedGaming Yes ofc. But, if you look closely you'll see that at the start of every combat initiative is rolled regardless of what method you're using. So having high initiative is always useful, specially if you have a powerful group that can deal high damage on their first attack.
Inspiring Leader + Battle Meditation + Boundless Healer = Daeran sitting in the middle of your team buffing and healing the hell out of them! Has been working great on my current playthrough especially since my MC is a lich with Ascendant summoning so those aoe buffs are even more useful! Core difficulty and turn based though im not sure it's really viable for real time or at higher difficulties. I'm also no min-maxer so no idea if thats really worth it or not xD
@@seantaylor1568 I just hope you're not buffing in battle? Both extended casting perks are also great to get 24h buffs rolling.
Holy isn't an option for ascendant element because it's not "energy" damage. Positive and negative are energy damage types. Holy, axiomatic, etc.. are just damage types.
Ohhhhhhhhhhh interesting! I had just assumed it was Energy. Thank you for clarifying this.
@@SlanderedGaming np
There is also no need for Postive Energy resistance as that only harms undead creatures and heals living ones.
Sosiel has Luck and Good domain, and their domain abilities are really great! Luck is roll 2 d20 and take the better result for 1 round. That about doubles a characters crit chanse for example. He is one of the best companions in my opinion for this, as you can build him to be truly powerful melee character. Clerics gains so many great personal buffs!
You almost got to play in Turn Based however to take advantage of it.
Right and most of the time I play RTwP so maybe that's why I haven't used it as much. This recent playthrough is the most I have played turn based in the game.
Always a Chance is something one of players just needs on the regular, the Randomness of Roll20 is constantly throwing Nat 1s on his attacks.
And this is over the course of multiple different games we have played together.
You are talking about in the PnP version of the game?
There's something about Mythic Charge I don't think was mentioned. Currently, the extra 1d6 per mythic rank gets applied to ALL attacks made during a charge. Meaning if you charge on a character with the pounce ability, you get 1d6/mythic rank on the charge+EVERY attack in a full round attack action. Mileage will still vary on how good the ability is I think, but if playing on a pouncing character, it's a must-take imo.
What you said is true but the problem is there are too many situations where the game won't let you charge. Every time that happens it's a lost opportunity for the damage Leading Strike would provided . Especially if you are mostly playing RTwP. If you are doing turned based on every single battle and always selecting Charge then that's different but I would argue most people aren't playing that way.
@@SlanderedGaming That's a fair point. I was thinking more about the turn-based gameplay style since that's what I"m planning to use, so I wasn't considering its relative strength in RTwP vs turn-based.
Lot's of good information in this one. Thanks for the deep dive.
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it.
The Best Jokes feat is just like that Monty Python sketch about the funniest joke in the world. :D
LOL Yeah basically.
Does mythic beast work with skeletal champion or aivu?
Hmmm haven't tested that yet so not sure.
Mythic charge is better than leading strike if you are doing more than one attack during a charge, because each attack is granted the extra DMG. Leading strike only hit once
On a charge you only get one attack unless you have pounce so if you're going for a charge focus or not is what determines which is best. Also, in RTWP leading strike will be brutal unless its hard limited to once per round.
I agree with 815, Mythic Charge is better if you have pounce AND you are playing in turn based combat. If you don't have pounce and you are playing RTwP, Leading Strike is the clearly superior option. In RTwP you will miss many opportunities to use Charge and consequently Mythic Charge will do less damage over the course of your playthrough.
great info man. this is very helpful.
Awesome glad you found the content useful.
I don’t know if owlcat did this on purpose or accident, but pathfinder usually uses divine damage as a non element that always does full damage. Clerics don’t usually have to worry about reduction on their damage, and some spells deal like half divine damage and half elemental damage and the divine damage is not mitigated
Are you referring to my comment about why is Holy in the elemental list? Apparently Pathfinder does not treat Holy as an element. Holy, Axiomatic, and Unholy are all not considered elements in the game.
@@SlanderedGaming yup, that’s standard
Heya, I know this is my commenting on a 2 year old video but I am confused. Bloodrager gives your a bloodline. But for whatever reason it doesn't seem to qualify for Bloodline Ascendant. And I really want a tank with Bloodline Ascendant, ANy suggestions?
Defo gonna take mythic charge on my planned Kitsune mutagen warrior, they get a racial feat that lets you do your full attack on a charge, gonna be a dual wielder so when hasted will be a ton of attacks getting that sweet 1d6 per mythic rank. :D
Yeah. It seems aimed characters with Pounce abilities so you can get the bonus multiple times per round.
Yup absolutely that should be brutal.
I have now changed my mind. I am legendary mythic now. Lvl 40 with magic nullification. Don't need buffs at that point.
LOL that's a good point. I am curious about how Legend works.
Video idea: a video per companion with a few builds for them
Yup I will definitely release some companion builds next week.
You might be underestimating Elemental Barrage. It's not just a late game ability for casters.
I don't know if this was intentional, but in beta, it worked not just for spells but elemental weapons. E.g. there's one Kukri you get in act 3 iirc, that deals three different elements (if I recall correctly it was Fire, Lightning, and Acid). Combine that with Thundering Blows (sonic) or other sources of elemental (such as White Dragon armor for Cold), and you're triggering Elemental Barrage multiple times a round for tons of divine damage. It's likely the biggest source of damage for fast attackers such as two weapon fighters.
Oh wow that is awesome. It specifically references elemental spells so I don't think Owlcat intended that. Nice find!
@@SlanderedGaming the flavor text says spells but the description only says energy damage. so who knows
@@SlanderedGaming I actually wasn't aware that it referred to spells. Maybe I didn't pay attention to the flavour text. Then *something* is wrong, whether it's the effect or the flavour text, because it definitely works the way I was describing.
and yea dude, I was pretty excited when I found this interaction out (and finding that kukri). I thought it was abnormally strong, but I got used to it quick, especially with how many other overpowered combos there are available that actually make this damage seem "par for the course". :P
When my Greybor with this combo (white dragon, the kukri, thundering blows, and other buffs on) is barely able to keep up with Wenduag without shenanigans. It's definitely "great" for melee, but I think ranged damage-dealers have just been exceptionally strong in Kingmaker and WOTR - especially now that there are half-decent throwing axes. So I stopped thinking it was an OP bug over time. haha.
@@asw654 LOL Maybe you'll luck out and it won't be patched upon release. I just experienced someone using throwing axes against me in the Demon playthrough. I might have to setup Wenduag with those, it was absolutely brutal.
Always a Chance: Basically it's saying that a 'nat one' is an auto miss, no matter if you had the bonuses to hit even if you rolled that low. With that ability, it's not an auto-fail so there's a chance you can still hit. However, obviously the target has to have a pretty low AC and/or you have to be buffed to have any chance at all. Add that to being on top of the base 5% chance of this ability coming up... still not worth it.
Exactly that's why I don't bother with it. You would definitely hit more but not enough to justify taking it as a Mythic Ability.
Does the Abundant Spell ability work with Mystic Theurge Prestige Class? because if it does that means a lot of spell for both the 2 classes that are needed to qualify.
It will only apply to the spellbook of the first class you took.
does domain zealot work with warpriest blessings? seems unlikely but it would be amazing if so
I haven't played with Warpriests yet so not sure. When I do one of their builds I'll try to remember to test that.
there is no resistence to holy so you dont need to get an feat to bypass it.
Yup I know that now but definitely didn't when I made this video. Thanks!
Thundering Blows is sooo much better than Leading strike. 2d6 more damage, that hits multiple targets, every round. Leading strike does nothing if YOU kill your target, so some rounds it is no help at all. You also don't need an ally near by for it to work.
Leading Strike is better. It scales as enemies get tougher while TB will always only do 12 damage at most per round. In Act 4 12 damage just cuts a little off the top of their health bar, meanwhile the 30-48 damage LS is doing will definitely turn heads.
@@SlanderedGaming Wait what? TB is 2d6 PLUS 1d6 per 2 mythic rank meaning 7d6(up to 42 damage at rank 10) Leading Strike tops out at 10d6(max 60 damage), but TB will do that 7d6 to ALL ENEMIES in a 10 ft radius. If there is at least 1 enemy within 10 feet TB is better, if there are several enemies which is often the case, TB is way better.
How does second bloodrager bloodline works with mixed blood bloodrager?
Doesn't count as having a bloodline so it does not get access to that Mythic Ability. Not sure if that is a bug or intended.
Elemental barrage does not say it needs to be magical, so it should be really good for magus, spirit hunter, and paladin who can put 2 different elements to their weapon
The description says "You mastered the art of raining elemental spells..." so honestly I am not sure about that. Currently it does work with weapons but I am not certain it will remain that way after full release.
@@SlanderedGaming I’ve never heard of them “fixing” feats like that.
@@kellysamuel3383 Very possible they will not touch it but wanted to point out the verbiage just in case.
Great video.
Thank you! Happy people seem to enjoy the content.
I think I would call N/- damage "Unmitigated damage reduction" or "flat damage reduction"
Yup "Flat DR" is the conclusion I have come to from some of the other comments. Thanks!
Does master shapeshifter affect the demon's transformations?
I am pretty sure it does. Those transformations buff your stats just like regular polymorph spells.
Not sure how you would say 'n/-', but I guess I would say basically 'universal damage resistance' (e.g. not against any type or anything).
Flat DR is the phrase I'll probably go with moving forward. Thank you!
Your not thinking of Elemental Barge right, MELEE Cammy can use it with her Shaman powers and do multi elemental damage in one round. Specially if your switch her to dual weapon fighting. So one weapon actually triggers the other weapons element and you get the damage every couple of hits from her weapons added. Magic Nullifier your wrong too. YOu need to have it activated when you buff and you don't loose the buffs. It than only effects any magic attacks. Like I been totally fireball and it did nothing to me. The only time it takes your buff off is if you turn it on after being buffed.
I didn't count that because the description of the ability specifically mentions spells. A couple of other people mentioned that they have used it with weapons but it doesn't seem like that was what Owlcat intended. They may patch it before the full release.
Does Inspirational Leader stack? If so you can almost guarantee your entire team goes first, Mind effecting effects and concentration checks would become a joke.
It does stack but since it is only half your Mythic rank I'd argue it's a long time before it makes a significant impact.
Does anybody know if Brutality Incarnate apply to shapeshifting form and dragon shape?
It should apply to both. I know it applies to Shapeshifting form but cannot confirm Dragon Shape for you. I feel like if it didn't though that is something that definitely would've been reported by now. You should be safe.
@@SlanderedGaming Just got to test it out on dragon form 1, and it works on that too. DR was some of the set back with a melee dragon build in Kingsmaker. Now that ability to ignore DR it it should be better.
I'm a bit confused about your statement that Seelah gets the sabre-tooth tiger as a pet? I can't seem to find that information anywhere. I know she gets a horse at level 5, can't see anything about the tiger though. Am I wrong? Greats video's btw, finding them incredibly helpful.
edit: Apparently it was changed to a horse instead of the tiger on full release. Is the horse still as good as the tiger? Think it's still worth getting the mythic beast ability?
Thanks glad you are enjoying the content. In my opinion the Horse is definitely still helpful just in a different way. While the Tiger was fantastic at damage the horse is a great tank. I gave it the clas that automatically provides barding feats and stuck some medium armor on it. In formation I have the horse out in front of everybody else. Takes hard heats like a champ as long as it's buffed properly. Seelah can make up for the loss of damage. :)
@@SlanderedGaming And, something I have noticed in my playthrough....It's worth having Seelah mount the horse, because it allows her to move further and faster in one go (Especially useful if you're using Turn Based combat)
N means number - means null
Thank you.
If someone is a crossblooded sorcerer, Can he choose a second bloodline?
Yep
As Damon said yes you can.
N/- means untyped damage reduction
Ahhh "untyped" or "flat". Awesome thank you.
If anyone cares, the proper pronunciation of DR 5/- would be "DR five dash"
Thank you!
11:07 Cleaving shot, is it a 10 foot radius of you, or the enemy you killed? If it's you this is awful as you are not usually standing near enemies as a ranged fighter. 10 foot from the enemy you killed is OK, thought still not great.
Enemy you killed.
Cleaving shot is amazing, the first ranged mythic feat I picked for lann
@@kellysamuel3383 Yeah. Lann makes a million attacks due to being a Zen Archer, often opening combat with those Full Round Actions, so it's such a natural fit.
had a character with smite good... that was probably the most useless smite i could have picked
😂😂 Even if you are completely and totally 100% evil it is still completely WASTED.