@@YTnotes Its torture. The point was to cause pain. Not a health benefit you sociopath. Its also a public school, so no expectation of privacy which makes it obstruction to withhold the video from police investigating a crime.
@@tommas2674 you poor ignorant fool. Then why in football, baseball and basketball coach threaten the players with up downs? Wind-sprints, laps ect as PUNISHMENT? Your comment tells everyone you never played any sports.
True. Do they have the right to get a copy of a video of any child? That's the crux of this story. There's a video. It has a lot of kids in it. They fought for the rights to obtain it, and they won, but the video was not forthcoming. Probably because the cost of editing out every face of every child is a prohibitively expensive task.
Yeah because basketball games are shown all the time with students faces!! So are other classroom activities- look at the patterns from the past and it doesn't take AI to figure the rest out!!!
@@LearningCurves123 I'm not saying that it's a GOOD excuse. I'm merely speaking in beurocratese. I'm not defending them at all. But it's time-consuming, and perhaps the probative value, when stacked against the expenditure, would be prohibitive. It's easy to take a one-dimensional story and take all that is stated as being 100% fact. It is important to recognize that there are usually two or more sides to every story. As a teacher I've written kids up for laughing in my class. People hear: "How stupid," and think it's wrong. They know only the basics. They don't know what took place that led up to the referral. They don't know why it was a problem. It's just easy to think you understand the big picture, when rarely is it true.
They are probably hiding something but without consent from the family of every person shown in the video it would be illegal to release the video publicly.
In the first minute or so he said they won't let them have a copy because of federal law and the inability to redact whatever it is that needs to be redacted to comply with that law. Places like schools are being sued at the drop of a hat these days for BS, I don't blame them.
@@pedalingprospector2007the school is creating their own reason. State law by both the SRC and District Judge has said that GRAMA can rule on FERPA documents and release them as long as they are redacted. This is in accordance with the Bryner vs Cannons School District ruling a few years ago. The District is now playing the card that they don’t have the technology to redact it. On a side note the State Board Education gave them a license to Adobe After Effects and Adobe Premier.
There are ways to redact a video. It's called, EDITING! Hire someone to do the EDITING! Oh, wait! You don't want the parents to *RELEASE* the video to the *PUBLIC!* That's the real reason they won't give the video to the parents.
The Superintendent has sworn in an affidavit in court that the district does not have the means to redact the video. On another note the State Board of Education has given them a license to Adobe Affect Effects and Adobe Premier.
Every school district dominated by Republicans needs to be investigated! That includes the entire state of Oklahoma where they're trying to push a blasphemous Bible with government Doctrine and God's word together from a government that didn't exist in a continent that was unknown when the Bible was written!
That would be a massive overreaction think of the cost and resources spent and the return one would get. Just as important what would not be investigated due to the resources used on the schools.
@Davesmeg Here in the midwest public schools has turned from educating kids to indoctrinating kids into Christian nationalism! People that hate kids that much shouldn't become teachers! This is all about Republican power! Beware of what's about to come, arm yourselves! #AntifaRules
@ I have worked in 4 of the of the 41 school districts in this state and all of them do criminal activity in one way or another. Got let go and band from employment for reporting it.
And the salaries of the AG’s office attorneys that they are able to use for free while the parents are left to spend thousands of dollars hiring a private attorney.
Their taxes also paid the politicians who created the federal law that releasing the video would violate. Schools and other institutions are getting sued right and left over BS. It would be dumb for the school to break federal law.
@@pedalingprospector2007 not one district has ever been able to prove that they will lose federal funding from FERPA especially when releasing the video to the parents of the minor whose education record it is. Additionally, there is no FERPA violation when the other students are redacted from the video which the parents have agreed to pay for.
Blanket punishments in schools are senseless. The only thing they teach is that if you’re going to be punished for someone else’s wrongdoing, you might as well be the one committing the wrongdoing.
I'm a high school teacher (not in Utah) and I do understand the redactions. They don't have the right to release videos of minors without permission of all involved. BAsed on the details that this news clip used, it does sound like they fought against the practice, and they won, got it banned, and were successful. Their current fight is for the right to take and share the video with the world. The board considered the request and the response, and ordered it be released, with the critical redactions of the faces of any child. They said release the video, but when you're too cheap to hire someone to do the editing of the video, it's hard to comply. I hope that the right side wins.... the side with actual justice involved.
@@LadyLithias they immediately stopped the practice without telling any parents what had occurred and no staff or educators were disciplined. The only discipline was a write up for the aide who ran the endurance day because he lied about who told him to run the endurance day as punishment not because he actually ran it. The District is now playing the “We don’t have the technology to redact it card.” As a side note the Utah State Board of Education has given them a free license to Adobe After Effects and Adobe Premier.
The reason cameras exist in school settings is to prove that nothing innapropriate happens to the students and to protect against any false accusations - any excuse used to not release the footage, is an attempt to cover up a crime.
If they were worried about the content of the video, they would not have allowed the parents to view it. Seems pretty straightforward.... by law they can't just post photographs or video footage of any child without explicit permission. It sounds like they are fighting to keep their name out of a bunch of lawsuits that they'd have to deal with if they complied without redacting.
@@mariatheresavonhabsburg sports games and News videos are shown all the time in classrooms. Look at the patterns set and realize it doesn't take AI to see the full picture!
What is the school district trying to hide? You can talk to all the parents whose child is in the video and get their permission to release the video (they may want to know about this abuse and see it) or block out the faces of all the other students. The parents deserve to see/know what is happening to their children when in school!
No, it's normal for _any_ state government who doesn't recognize the real bosses of them are *The People.* I echo the good Ezra Taft Benson when he said: "I have faith that the Constitution will be saved ... But it will not be saved in Washington. It will be saved by the citizens of this nation who love and cherish freedom."
Those parents need to get more parents to get a class action suit going. There were more students assaulted by this "exercise punishment". If they have enough parents making the request the school system will have to release since these parents are the parents of the students being assaulted by the PE Instructor/teacher(?). Just like they allowed one set of parents see the recording, they now have to allow other parents who child was assaulted by this PE instructor and his "exercise punishment". Then the School Superintendent will be forced to show the recording and release it to the public/courts.
I was falsely arrested in Sevier County 35 years ago. It's a hellla back azzward area. Even by Utah standards! Majority of people in the 30 person county jail were there for doing really bad things to children.
There was no punishment for any educators or staff involved. The only discipline was for the aide for lying about who told him to run the endurance day.
The band instructor down here in Louisiana made the whole band run laps after practice at dark thirty bcuz a small group of students talked while in formation. We all need to be asking our children about situations like this.
From the very top, this is a cya incident, any punishment of children is mandated by law, anything beyond that is illegal and all perpetrators must be identified and charged then sued including all that obstruct justice.
Do you wonder why our kids are not being taught well?? Nor should they be put thru this type of example from their elders in school who are showing them how not to act truthfully.😢
we cant release the video because of all the children in the video??? so the school board is NOW speaking for ALL parents kids in that video??? WHEN did they make them selves BOSS over parents and kids!!!! WHY wont these people release OUR video we PAY for all this equipment. and EVERY school board member WILL say they ARE truthful and honest but WONT release the video??? sounds 100% like they ARE lying and hiding some thing!!!!!
The sheriffs department should get a subpoena for the video, then if they refused to release it, arrest the administrator and charge him with obstruction of justice. Stop hiding behind FER PA to protect criminals
These parents the “fragiles” that ruin our future generations. When I was in high school, if you were late to Physical Ed class, you got laps as punishment and the distances started at a mile and went up from there. Also, if you wanted/needed extra credit, the same applied - One Point per Mile. If you needed 10 points to raise your grade, 10 miles on the track.
As a soccer coach and ref, I have to take a safe sport class every year. According to that program, this is physical abuse and I would lose my licenses.
Prediction: eventually a court will find that surveillance video is not an educational record (like test scores and disciplinary records) and it isn't covered by FERPA
The district is protecting itself not students. File this under reason # 375,964 to get rid of the department of education. Bring it back to the states where we can have more say in what happens in regard to our children.
It's local people doing this. In no way does removing federal authority over the local officials add accountability. It only takes away a department that can force them into accountability.
That’s where you’re wrong. If the DOE isn’t there then there isn’t anywhere for the school district to push it to. They have to be accountable on a local level instead of just pushing it up the chain to a faceless entity in a different state. Things can actually get done when accountability is taken and the useless people who are slowing and stopping the process can be fired. Right now nobody gets fired from federal jobs. They can be useless and still be paid and just moved to a different department. They have no incentive to do their job or be good at it.
Federally protected educational whatwhatwhat?Why aren't more parents upset about the conditioning of their children in a way that is manipulative and punitive at the same time in a sense it's to modify their behavior thru punishment. Those poor children defenseless and victimized at the one place that should be a santuary for them,where they should be and feel protected and nurtured not punished for being kids.
Not sure why you brought Mormons into this but it’s clear you have an agenda of who you’d like to blame for something the school district has done on their own.
🤦 Bad people have been infecting _everywhere_ of leadership the past two decades particularly. State and Federal governments in the United States are on their way now for a reckoning (albeit who knows for how long), we The People just need to keep working for good. And just because you had a bad experience with some members of The Church, please don't paint with a broad brush. 🙏
Do you have any evidence that the students actually did anything wrong? It sounds like collective punishment, which is immoral and against the Geneva Convention. Do you think sixth graders should be treated worse that prisoners of war?
I was against police body-cameras when first introduced. Now I think they are a great tool, especially in a time when a person's word isn't good enough you need some form of proof. Where is the oversight? Who determines what any teacher does is good, right, or legal? And people wonder why so many parents are against public schools, but can't afford to pay taxes to fund schools AND send their kids to an alternative.
Isn’t that great they put cameras in the school for the children’s safety😂😂😂😂😂. Just like police have body cameras. It just takes divine intervention to get the footage if they don’t want to give it up. To the lengths they are going to fight the release of the footage I have to imagine it’s pretty bad. Now I am only wondering because exercise as a form of punishment was pretty common when I grew in gym class for pretty much everything, but that was a while ago. Never hurt any of us it wasn’t any fun but running, push ups, sit ups, chin ups, and pull ups never hurt anyone
FOIA requests should be changed, they are not requests. They are the voice of parents and citizens demanding transparency of authority and those in power.
And after knowing children have died from this type of punishment? They are worried about more parents wanting to sue. While I do agree with not releasing video of other people's children, I also believe all the parents who's children were involved should have been notified.
The school board is using student privacy laws to prevent their illegal actions from being widely viewed but the faces of students can be blurred-out on a case-by-case basis. Parents need to get use to this because under the upcoming Administration, they can, and probably will change how kids are taught and treated in school and parents will have no say in the matter.
These aren’t coaches this was a general PE class at school with a instructional aide, district nurse and teacher present the whole time and no one put a stop to it.
They don’t want you to have the video number one because their first thought would be to edit the video to be on their side, so they think that’s what everyone else would do. They’re afraid you’re going to take the video and edit it to make it look like whoever this was at the school intentionally harmed your child. They’ve admitted that this person intentionally harmed your child. There’s no law that I am aware of and I know there’s millions of laws on the federal level to keep you from getting that record. They’re afraid you’re going to sue and use that video as evidence. The sad thing is if you sue like they are suing you, discovery will get a copy of that video. So they’re preemptive two-year battle to keep you from getting the information you need is just pretty sad and pathetic. The taxpayers of this town should be totally up in arms at the amount of money that they are paying a lawyer to keep you from getting your child’s public school record.
You’re right suing them would bring out the video. The main point in taking this route was to let parents of the other students know what happened because the District only told them that the endurance days ended not that their children had been punished in an extreme way. Also, for accountability. No educators or staff were disciplined in accordance with what happened. The aide who ran the exercise was only disciplined for lying about who told him to run the exercise as punishment.
A public school of minor children, that's publicly funded, shouldn't be preventing the public from viewing video footage! They must have something to hide!
The fact that they're hiding the video proves they are hiding a crime.
@cowboyboots9901 what crime? Making kids sweat?
No. A video of children released to the public. Bullshit.
@@YTnotes either bait or stupidity, troll or be dumb somewhere else
@@Anthony-hu3rj If it's THEIR Child, they absolutely have the right to a copy of the video!!
@@YTnotes Its torture. The point was to cause pain. Not a health benefit you sociopath. Its also a public school, so no expectation of privacy which makes it obstruction to withhold the video from police investigating a crime.
It is a publicaly funded school so release it immediately!!
Sounds like they're covering up for an abuser.
Tis the state of the nation.
Of course they are!
@@skankhunt3624and we will see it get MUCH worse under Trump.
Unsurprisingly so, one has been elected as the president of the United States of America.
they have been for years i live here this district covers everything up which why our suicide rate is so high
Why won't the school release the video? Are they a publicly funded school? If so they need to release the video or lose public funding!
They're hiding behind the privacy act. But as stated in the video it is a fact that this happened. So I think they are hiding from what they did.
why won't they release the video?
Tell us you didn't watch the video without telling us you didn't watch the video.
exercise isn't punishment.
Now WE ALL need to see the video.
@@tommas2674 you poor ignorant fool.
Then why in football, baseball and basketball coach threaten the players with up downs? Wind-sprints, laps ect as PUNISHMENT?
Your comment tells everyone you never played any sports.
When you fear integrity and accountability, you are NOT the good guys.
@michaelccopelandsr7120 ohh dear god they made them exercise call in the national guard lol
Two months ago a father was sentenced to life in prison for exercising his child to death@@oidenhoward-go9fz
@@oidenhoward-go9fztiny minded misinformation spreaders like yourself will get theirs very soon
@oidenhoward-go9fz Obviously it was more than normal exercise, otherwise the district would have released the video to the parents.
@Cappellano speculations and assumptions
A parent should be able to get a copy of ANY and ALL video of their child in anyone else’s care… period.
True. Do they have the right to get a copy of a video of any child? That's the crux of this story. There's a video. It has a lot of kids in it. They fought for the rights to obtain it, and they won, but the video was not forthcoming. Probably because the cost of editing out every face of every child is a prohibitively expensive task.
Yeah because basketball games are shown all the time with students faces!! So are other classroom activities- look at the patterns from the past and it doesn't take AI to figure the rest out!!!
@@LadyLithiasthe Kummers have offered to pay for redaction, this is not the issue, they also have staff that a trained specifically for video editing
@@LadyLithias No it isn't expensive. Don't make excuses. They CAN get someone to edit the children's faces.
@@LearningCurves123 I'm not saying that it's a GOOD excuse. I'm merely speaking in beurocratese. I'm not defending them at all. But it's time-consuming, and perhaps the probative value, when stacked against the expenditure, would be prohibitive.
It's easy to take a one-dimensional story and take all that is stated as being 100% fact. It is important to recognize that there are usually two or more sides to every story.
As a teacher I've written kids up for laughing in my class. People hear: "How stupid," and think it's wrong. They know only the basics. They don't know what took place that led up to the referral. They don't know why it was a problem. It's just easy to think you understand the big picture, when rarely is it true.
If they are not HIDING wrong doing then they would not have a problem releasing the video.
They are probably hiding something but without consent from the family of every person shown in the video it would be illegal to release the video publicly.
In the first minute or so he said they won't let them have a copy because of federal law and the inability to redact whatever it is that needs to be redacted to comply with that law. Places like schools are being sued at the drop of a hat these days for BS, I don't blame them.
@@pedalingprospector2007the school is creating their own reason. State law by both the SRC and District Judge has said that GRAMA can rule on FERPA documents and release them as long as they are redacted. This is in accordance with the Bryner vs Cannons School District ruling a few years ago. The District is now playing the card that they don’t have the technology to redact it. On a side note the State Board Education gave them a license to Adobe After Effects and Adobe Premier.
@@Shankum555 what's the crime? Making kids sweat?
@@YTnotescorporal punishment, making students do extreme exercises as a punishment for something one child did
The claim they are unable to redact the faces is BS. There's an app for that.
Thank yiy
There are ways to redact a video. It's called, EDITING! Hire someone to do the EDITING! Oh, wait! You don't want the parents to *RELEASE* the video to the *PUBLIC!* That's the real reason they won't give the video to the parents.
The Superintendent has sworn in an affidavit in court that the district does not have the means to redact the video. On another note the State Board of Education has given them a license to Adobe Affect Effects and Adobe Premier.
@@Shankum555 So...why did the Superintendent lie under oath?? #obstruction
@@BoltRM that would be a question for the superintendent. 🤷♀️
@@Shankum555 You don’t say. 😏
@@BoltRM You know why. 😏
Every school district in Utah should be investigated for any wrong doing.
Every school district dominated by Republicans needs to be investigated! That includes the entire state of Oklahoma where they're trying to push a blasphemous Bible with government Doctrine and God's word together from a government that didn't exist in a continent that was unknown when the Bible was written!
That would be a massive overreaction think of the cost and resources spent and the return one would get. Just as important what would not be investigated due to the resources used on the schools.
@Davesmeg Here in the midwest public schools has turned from educating kids to indoctrinating kids into Christian nationalism! People that hate kids that much shouldn't become teachers! This is all about Republican power! Beware of what's about to come, arm yourselves! #AntifaRules
@ I have worked in 4 of the of the 41 school districts in this state and all of them do criminal activity in one way or another. Got let go and band from employment for reporting it.
@@wwm371 how dare they make them exercise lol
What's worse their taxes pay the salary to those employees at the school.
And the salaries of the AG’s office attorneys that they are able to use for free while the parents are left to spend thousands of dollars hiring a private attorney.
Their taxes also paid the politicians who created the federal law that releasing the video would violate. Schools and other institutions are getting sued right and left over BS. It would be dumb for the school to break federal law.
@@pedalingprospector2007 not one district has ever been able to prove that they will lose federal funding from FERPA especially when releasing the video to the parents of the minor whose education record it is. Additionally, there is no FERPA violation when the other students are redacted from the video which the parents have agreed to pay for.
@@pedalingprospector2007The school is lying about this violating federal law.
Of course they do! Why would they want to release a video of torture and abuse?
The faces of other children in that video can be blurred.
That's a bizarre situation. The fact that they don't want to release the video; actually proves they did something wrong.
This happened to a boy at my daughter's school in Edwardsburg Michigan. The boy died and students were told to keep quiet.
Where can I get more info on this?
I am so sorry to hear that. We are trying to bring this to the public’s attention to stop these kinds of things
This school should be shut down and the staff investigated. This sounds suspiciously like a cover up.
The Tail thinks
it's the Dog .
Gee what else do they do to the kiddies?7
@@MikeJones-wc4qj That's what I'm worried about.
the whole district covers up everything i grew up there and they defend sexual predators too
That needs to change.
Blanket punishments in schools are senseless. The only thing they teach is that if you’re going to be punished for someone else’s wrongdoing, you might as well be the one committing the wrongdoing.
Teaching justice is not important in America.
Crime pays & you can even be president 💪🍄
I think collective punishments violate the Geneva Convention.
Release the damn video.
Redactions? Why? That board is out of their minds.
They shouldn't have to take it to court. I hope these parents win!
I'm a high school teacher (not in Utah) and I do understand the redactions.
They don't have the right to release videos of minors without permission of all involved.
BAsed on the details that this news clip used, it does sound like they fought against the practice, and they won, got it banned, and were successful. Their current fight is for the right to take and share the video with the world. The board considered the request and the response, and ordered it be released, with the critical redactions of the faces of any child. They said release the video, but when you're too cheap to hire someone to do the editing of the video, it's hard to comply.
I hope that the right side wins.... the side with actual justice involved.
@@LadyLithias they immediately stopped the practice without telling any parents what had occurred and no staff or educators were disciplined. The only discipline was a write up for the aide who ran the endurance day because he lied about who told him to run the endurance day as punishment not because he actually ran it.
The District is now playing the “We don’t have the technology to redact it card.” As a side note the Utah State Board of Education has given them a free license to Adobe After Effects and Adobe Premier.
FOIA request? Sue them.
FOIA is for Federal agencies. Doesn't apply to schools. You're on the right track though. Just need to go a different path.
@ Bet their is a state similar law
@@robinbabcock4620 Written request to school officials. If that fails. Then you have to get a civil attorney to try to compel them to turn it over.
@@sirjudge5055 no it’s not. You can with county agencies
Wow..this is not Boot Camp..
The reason cameras exist in school settings is to prove that nothing innapropriate happens to the students and to protect against any false accusations - any excuse used to not release the footage, is an attempt to cover up a crime.
If they didnt know they were wrong they wouldnt be fighting to hide the videos
If they were worried about the content of the video, they would not have allowed the parents to view it. Seems pretty straightforward.... by law they can't just post photographs or video footage of any child without explicit permission. It sounds like they are fighting to keep their name out of a bunch of lawsuits that they'd have to deal with if they complied without redacting.
@@LadyLithias
Then they could simply redact the video instead of pretending they can't.
Suspicious to say the least.
@@mariatheresavonhabsburg sports games and News videos are shown all the time in classrooms. Look at the patterns set and realize it doesn't take AI to see the full picture!
Lawsuit, lawsuit, lawsuit
At every level...
Glad they're not giving up.
Collective punishment is a crime according to the Geneva convention.
@1jotun136 lol you are ridiculous
Have you been in Boot Camp?
@subicstationditosailor4053 people sign up to be in the service.
Discipline is guidance...not punishment! That breeds bullies!
God this is disgusting!!! School districts are so jaded and emotionless!!!!
@Lexxington67 lol take a zanex they just exercised. It's not like they told them they could change genders lol
Power corrupts
Why are they not in jail for refusing court orders?
What is the school district trying to hide? You can talk to all the parents whose child is in the video and get their permission to release the video (they may want to know about this abuse and see it) or block out the faces of all the other students. The parents deserve to see/know what is happening to their children when in school!
Thank you for the support.
Major lawsuit....
"Endurance days" is a scary euphemism.
They should have had the principal ARRESTED
Teach your Children that it is ok to just say NO to school "educators" tyrants...!
This! I was forever helping my kids fight their teachers when the teacher was being unreasonable.
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Who’s getting charged for child abuse ?
Seems like this story isn't about the bad behavior .... that's been settled..... this story is only that they haven't released the videos.
@@LadyLithias actually it hasn’t no one was ever disciplined or punished for doing this to the students.
Dcfs refused to investigate.
If you have a child in that school, get them out now if you care about your children.
1:24 that's a war crime against the Geneva convention. "group punishment"
Innocent people don't fear accountability or transparency.
if the school has nothing to hide then release the video to the family
Oh that's normal for Utah the government here hates accountability
I thinks that is true for all state and federal governments.
No, it's normal for _any_ state government who doesn't recognize the real bosses of them are *The People.*
I echo the good Ezra Taft Benson when he said:
"I have faith that the Constitution will be saved ... But it will not be saved in Washington. It will be saved by the citizens of this nation who love and cherish freedom."
The AG Office is representing them.
Don't make us come down there, y'all.
We need all the help we can get with this!
This sounds like a crime has been committed and someone doesn't want someone else to see this cause there in trouble?
There is only ONE reason why anyone would want a video not to be seen.
This is filthy. This school is teaching the children how to look and act when you are guilty.
When will war like, military abusive mindsets give way to normal community interactions? WHEN?
Those parents need to get more parents to get a class action suit going. There were more students assaulted by this "exercise punishment". If they have enough parents making the request the school system will have to release since these parents are the parents of the students being assaulted by the PE Instructor/teacher(?). Just like they allowed one set of parents see the recording, they now have to allow other parents who child was assaulted by this PE instructor and his "exercise punishment". Then the School Superintendent will be forced to show the recording and release it to the public/courts.
this was the intention with the news story, it seems to be starting something big
I was falsely arrested in Sevier County 35 years ago. It's a hellla back azzward area. Even by Utah standards! Majority of people in the 30 person county jail were there for doing really bad things to children.
Is the instructor that hurt the children still hired in education???
There was no punishment for any educators or staff involved. The only discipline was for the aide for lying about who told him to run the endurance day.
He was transferred to the high school eventually and resigned in the summer.
Parents need a whole lot more control and authority over the schools.
The band instructor down here in Louisiana made the whole band run laps after practice at dark thirty bcuz a small group of students talked while in formation.
We all need to be asking our children about situations like this.
Using exercise as punishment isn’t what we need as a society where obesity is a huge problem.
From the very top, this is a cya incident, any punishment of children is mandated by law, anything beyond that is illegal and all perpetrators must be identified and charged then sued including all that obstruct justice.
Do you wonder why our kids are not being taught well?? Nor should they be put thru this type of example from their elders in school who are showing them how not to act truthfully.😢
Wow! This sounds shady AF. I’d be so angry and frustrated.
Thanks for the support!
we cant release the video because of all the children in the video??? so the school board is NOW speaking for ALL parents kids in that video??? WHEN did they make them selves BOSS over parents and kids!!!! WHY wont these people release OUR video we PAY for all this equipment. and EVERY school board member WILL say they ARE truthful and honest but WONT release the video??? sounds 100% like they ARE lying and hiding some thing!!!!!
they also post children all over their social media all the time
wouldnt denying the police to view the video be obstruction. the police should arrested the officals
The sheriffs department should get a subpoena for the video, then if they refused to release it, arrest the administrator and charge him with obstruction of justice. Stop hiding behind FER PA to protect criminals
Since the video is not being sold ot purchased..... Why is there an issue?
we have nothing to hide, but we. can't let you see the footage.
got it.
Schools need far more oversight. We don't need abuse or religion in any school.
The algorithm is funny, last night I had a dream about the time our coach made us do 200 up downs in 7th grade and now this pops up lol
If there’s video there’s no reason to withhold it. 🙄
GET A TOP NOTCH ATTORNEY!!!!!
they have one dw 😊
Keep at it!! Put cameras in all classrooms with parents having access.
Sounds like they're covering something up.
Adding a cover up to the crimes . Crime upon crime
Throw the obstructionist's in jail and release the video. Then sue them.
These parents the “fragiles” that ruin our future generations. When I was in high school, if you were late to Physical Ed class, you got laps as punishment and the distances started at a mile and went up from there. Also, if you wanted/needed extra credit, the same applied - One Point per Mile. If you needed 10 points to raise your grade, 10 miles on the track.
As a soccer coach and ref, I have to take a safe sport class every year. According to that program, this is physical abuse and I would lose my licenses.
Even the military stopped that decades ago.
The *SS* kept a record of their punishments?
I hope their comeuppance is Sevier.
WHAT PART OF CHILDREN HAVE DIED THROUGH EXCERCIZE AS PUNISHMENT DONT THEY GET??
Prediction: eventually a court will find that surveillance video is not an educational record (like test scores and disciplinary records) and it isn't covered by FERPA
The district is protecting itself not students. File this under reason # 375,964 to get rid of the department of education. Bring it back to the states where we can have more say in what happens in regard to our children.
It's local people doing this. In no way does removing federal authority over the local officials add accountability. It only takes away a department that can force them into accountability.
That’s where you’re wrong. If the DOE isn’t there then there isn’t anywhere for the school district to push it to. They have to be accountable on a local level instead of just pushing it up the chain to a faceless entity in a different state. Things can actually get done when accountability is taken and the useless people who are slowing and stopping the process can be fired. Right now nobody gets fired from federal jobs. They can be useless and still be paid and just moved to a different department. They have no incentive to do their job or be good at it.
Time for some street Justice now Parents.
Seems like a cover up and failure to follow lws by the school and officials....
Federally protected educational whatwhatwhat?Why aren't more parents upset about the conditioning of their children in a way that is manipulative and punitive at the same time in a sense it's to modify their behavior thru punishment. Those poor children defenseless and victimized at the one place that should be a santuary for them,where they should be and feel protected and nurtured not punished for being kids.
What is going on in Utah and their relationship to Children?? Really curious how many Mormons are involved ??
Also happening in my granddaughter's kindergarten class in Kansas. Not just a Mormon thing!
@ so sorry to hear… I do wonder if a certain religious perspective that believes in corporal punishment of children…
Not sure why you brought Mormons into this but it’s clear you have an agenda of who you’d like to blame for something the school district has done on their own.
🤦 Bad people have been infecting _everywhere_ of leadership the past two decades particularly. State and Federal governments in the United States are on their way now for a reckoning (albeit who knows for how long), we The People just need to keep working for good.
And just because you had a bad experience with some members of The Church, please don't paint with a broad brush. 🙏
punishing a whole group for ONE persons bad choices is wrong.
Depends on if the Higher Ups had knowledge.
Maybe the administration needs an endurance day of their own. We should never rule out pain as a motivation.
That’s just plain wrong
This was done to us when I was in school in the 70s.
Don't let them edit out what they don't want you to see
Maybe if they got disciplined at home, they wouldn't be acting like heathens at school.
Do you have any evidence that the students actually did anything wrong? It sounds like collective punishment, which is immoral and against the Geneva Convention. Do you think sixth graders should be treated worse that prisoners of war?
Didn’t a young boy die after his father exercised him to death?
Yes, people don’t realize how dangerous exercise as punishment can be.
I was against police body-cameras when first introduced. Now I think they are a great tool, especially in a time when a person's word isn't good enough you need some form of proof.
Where is the oversight? Who determines what any teacher does is good, right, or legal?
And people wonder why so many parents are against public schools, but can't afford to pay taxes to fund schools AND send their kids to an alternative.
Isn’t that great they put cameras in the school for the children’s safety😂😂😂😂😂. Just like police have body cameras. It just takes divine intervention to get the footage if they don’t want to give it up. To the lengths they are going to fight the release of the footage I have to imagine it’s pretty bad. Now I am only wondering because exercise as a form of punishment was pretty common when I grew in gym class for pretty much everything, but that was a while ago. Never hurt any of us it wasn’t any fun but running, push ups, sit ups, chin ups, and pull ups never hurt anyone
If its above board, then release the entire video of the treatment their kids sustained.
ITS BEST TO GET A GOOD LAWYER, IF POSSIBLE
FOIA requests should be changed, they are not requests. They are the voice of parents and citizens demanding transparency of authority and those in power.
There was no surveillance video in the 80s and teachers did stuff like this all the time.
Punishment sounds pretty Sevier
as someone who lives here this is so funny
And after knowing children have died from this type of punishment? They are worried about more parents wanting to sue. While I do agree with not releasing video of other people's children, I also believe all the parents who's children were involved should have been notified.
They could blur faces of all the other kids.
Amen! m.ua-cam.com/video/0EPn2LzLQcE/v-deo.html&pp=2AEBkAIB
I’m sorry the school district works for the parents. Lawsuit, Lawsuit, Lawsuit.
The school board is using student privacy laws to prevent their illegal actions from being widely viewed but the faces of students can be blurred-out on a case-by-case basis. Parents need to get use to this because under the upcoming Administration, they can, and probably will change how kids are taught and treated in school and parents will have no say in the matter.
The school was given them the Frankie-Hildebrandt treatment?
If everything was above board they would make the video available !!
Literally Ruby Franke/Jodi Hildebrandt tactics. Have they forgotten Utah's outrage at them??
They are hiding something for sure.
Has anyone told the coaches that exercise can not be used for punishment/extreme teaching?
These aren’t coaches this was a general PE class at school with a instructional aide, district nurse and teacher present the whole time and no one put a stop to it.
@@Shankum555 Have you seen a basketball/football coach run a team till they puke? I have been on teams where that was the norm. So that is acceptable?
@ doesn’t make it right and certainly doesn’t make it right for a general PE class that they are required to take.
They don’t want you to have the video number one because their first thought would be to edit the video to be on their side, so they think that’s what everyone else would do. They’re afraid you’re going to take the video and edit it to make it look like whoever this was at the school intentionally harmed your child. They’ve admitted that this person intentionally harmed your child. There’s no law that I am aware of and I know there’s millions of laws on the federal level to keep you from getting that record. They’re afraid you’re going to sue and use that video as evidence. The sad thing is if you sue like they are suing you, discovery will get a copy of that video. So they’re preemptive two-year battle to keep you from getting the information you need is just pretty sad and pathetic. The taxpayers of this town should be totally up in arms at the amount of money that they are paying a lawyer to keep you from getting your child’s public school record.
You’re right suing them would bring out the video. The main point in taking this route was to let parents of the other students know what happened because the District only told them that the endurance days ended not that their children had been punished in an extreme way. Also, for accountability. No educators or staff were disciplined in accordance with what happened. The aide who ran the exercise was only disciplined for lying about who told him to run the exercise as punishment.
A public school of minor children, that's publicly funded, shouldn't be preventing the public from viewing video footage! They must have something to hide!