Nicely done. I think a big part of caliber debate is that people over estimate the durability of the human body. Nobody out there has bullet proof organs, arteries, or central nervous system.
A lot depends on where it hits, and that varies with each situation. Doubt the bad guy will ask what caliber. Hopefully it's academic and won't be tested in a real self defense situation. More powerful is better but you've also got to have the firearm with you when you need it.
I carry my 100 year old 1903 Colt Hamerless everyday. It NEVER fails. Rimlock is not an issue for me. The .32 is way more than enough. Especially using current CD cartridges.
It’s probably worth noting that a 380 works for summer carry given light clothes on both parties. As weather gets colder it makes more sense to go up in caliber given a larger handgun is easier to conceal and also capable of penetrating more layers of clothing.
All handgun rounds are lethal. More people die from .22 caliber each year than any other. All calibers will poke a hole in you. Pop a few rounds into an attacker with a .22 and see if they keep coming at ya.
Potential killer lol, carried by military officers and police the world over for over a century. Certainly all you'll ever need to protect yourself unless you are harbouring strange John Wick fantasies where you are "taking on" some "bad guys". shoot somebody centre mass with a 32 and, at best, they are looking at extended hospital stays.
I can really appreciate how you conducted this video! It wasn't the typical "my caliber is better than your caliber" type of video. Just a straight-up test with some smart advice at the end. Keep up the good work!
I have bad arthritis so I love my little 32s that I have I have a Kel-Tec p32 and I have a nice old Beretta model 81 which is a 12 shot 32 and very accurate I love them both
Very good video. Even the .32 is going to take the fight out of the worst be bad guy. Excellent point about caring the gun that you feel comfortable with.
Nice video great unbiased info for anyone interested in these calibers. I have all except 10 mm and am confident that all will get the job done. Thanks for posting.
A small firearm is deadly with the right defensive ammo especially in a .32 acp and .380 acp. Critical Defense, Gold Dot, and Lehigh defense rounds are excellent defensive rounds.
liked the video, been leaning on getting a 32acp this video helped make my decision. I live in a rural area 10,000 in the whole county and work in a town of about 5000 so carrying a p32 would be easy for every day carry compliance and just makes more since for me. theres been one armed robbery and no murders for the last 30 years in my county. i would like something i can just throw in my pocket thats easily shootable thats not a 2 finger 380. I think 32acp will fit the bill for me. thanks for the vid
MrScottJ87 I use Sellier & Bellot FMJ in mine. It is reliable even after many years and hundreds of rounds. I use it all the time in hot South Georgia where hand cannons cause you to alter your wardrobe.
MrScott.J87 Both you gentleman are right on that. The 32 Lehigh rounds exceed FBI specs in gel wound penetration. In fact, I think somewhere on UA-cam, some guy ran a vid on it. I just wish I could run across another black Tomcat 3032.
If you live and work in an area with no murders and only one armed robbery in the past 30 years, why do you feel the need to carry then? I own tons of guns and live in an area similar to yours. I never carry. Never seen the need. Now if you were to be the one guy in 30 years that breaks into my home, well that's another story....
I have a 32 Colt Model 1903 "Pocket Hammerless", my grandfather bought in 1922 and finally, handed down to me. It has been a wonderful, flawless operating and reliable auto pistol for almost 100 years now. I had it worked on 22 years ago for a tune up and some blueing. It is now 95 percent and still shooting strong. I live in California and do not have a CC permit, but I do carry this gun at "certain times". Fuck it, i am 70 years old with no priors. If I ever do get pinched for carrying a concealed weapon, I doubt I will have to do any time for it. So, in the mean time...
johnscreekmark - So, you are a fan of the Colt Pocket Hammerless too? I can understand why, it is a fine piece of craftsmanship, design and machining. In any event, the gun does have my nephew's dibs on it when I get along.. But, thanks for your interest and offer. Take care.
StellarBlue1 That Colt is a fine piece of workmanship. I’m scouting one out as we speak. My interest in .32 started with a almost accidental acquisition of a Beretta Model 70. The 1903 Colt was initially an esoteric interest as one of the Firearms used by Paul Kersey (aka Charles Bronson) in the movie “Death Wish II”. Cheers!
john - Years ago, I had a Beretta 70 in 22LR. I sadly traded it away for a s&w .38. Now, I am sorry I did, as it was a really fine pistol. Yes, I remember that DW movie. That gun was given to Paul Kersey as a presentation piece in a wood box if I remember correctly. It was chrome plated, was it not? Of course my Colt 32 model is old but I had it re blued/tabled and like any piece J. Browning put his mind in, it is basically flawless. Enjoy your .32! You will love it, I promise...
.32 is an interesting round. I just picked up a Beretta 3032 TomCat and like it for a pocket carry. Your recollection of "DW" is good, however - in the original DW, Kersey was given a .32 Colt "Police Positive" revolver in the case. In DW2 he started using a Beretta 84 (real nice .380) and acquired the 1903 Colt Hammerless after interrupting a mugging/rape in an underground garage. He shot one of the muggers with his 84, and then picked up the 1903 Colt Hammerless that the dead mugger dropped...using it as a 2nd firearm throughout the rest of the movie. I have an 84...now fishing around for a Colt Police Positive and 1903 Hammerless. Enjoy.
heck of a video.. interesting on the wadcutter. I think 32 ACP is fine for self-defense probably the bare minimum though.. not a super heavy bullet but decent velocity.. I still don't understand why they download the 10mm to basically 40 cal velocity.. kind of a waste.. great video
I like gel tests for the consistency but this was a great real world simulation with the different densities that a real world bullet would have to go through.
I had one and carried it primarily because of my job. The pocket clip accessory is cool. Really shitty sites but that's common w pocket rockets. All in all its a good belly gun. I would only run fmj in it. Realistically a hollowpoint isn't going to expand or in the slim case it does it won't penetrate deep enough.
Hey, I think you know more about guns Ball ammo is fmj right? But isn‘t a hollow point or rip ammo better for self defense, because first they have more stopping power and do more damage and 2nd they don‘t penetrate well, so innocent people which may stand behind the attacker could get hit from fmj
@The African Wildlife 🦁👑 FMJ's/Ball Ammo are good for rounds .32 caliber and less, because they don't produce enough energy to expand a hollow point designed bullet. Since there's not much powder to propel the bullet,, you need to use FMJ's to get decent penetration. There's really no concern of a FMJ passing through and causing collaterall damage on rounds .32 and less. *Use Hollow points for 9mm and above because they are stronger loads and you want the bullet to expand and dump its energy without passing through. FMJ's for anything above 9mm are usually just used for practice at the range because they are much cheaper than Hollow Points!
Thank you for this, after seeing the 380 in the ham I feel a lot more confident carrying one for personal protection. If it can make it through leather, ribs and through a ham then I have no doubt any attacker would never want to get hit by 7 rounds from a pocket ruger lcp or a kel-tec p3at. Just imagine the ham as a person and you firing 7 rapid fire rounds of 380 into that ham. I'm sure the result would be someone tore up so bad they stopped breathing.
In my opinon it is not a fair comparision because the 32acp was fired from a short barrel (2,7in),and the 380acp was fired from a longer barrel(3,5in).
Truly excellent video. Down to earth without the hoopla. I especially liked that you used a target that was more like something I'd actually need to shoot, instead of that silly ballistic gelatin. New subscriber because of this video.
I have a 9mm and a 40cal in an IWB holster in my EDC rotation and carry one of my 380 pistols for a pocket backup. My 32acp is a little too big for pocket carry but I am accurate with it and have carried it on occasion. Thanks for the video and keep shooting 😊.
Underwood loads the extreme defender bullets in 32 acp. They say that the defenders penetrate a little more than the cavitators. I would assume that the defenders would do more damage too, based on the nose shape.
Comparing two totally different bullet types is kinda silly ..you should've used the same type of bullet because in your test the 380 was put at a high disadvantage using that hollow point against that leighigh round in the 32acp
The Keltec is like 8 or 9 oz, you could carry it anywhere! The thing I worry about with the Lehigh bullet is the feeding, I’ve seen those in the Underwood loading jamming up a lot in different 32acps. But those extreme Cavitator are wicked little rounds! 🤔
The idea is to have something on you at all time ,the caliber doesn’t matter ,you accuracy does ,32acp vs .380 in a small gun ,you’ll have more accuracy with the small caliber,I would pick 32acp or less for a small gun
Thank you for posting...I do wish it was more apples to apples. A hollowpoint will sure act a lot different that a solid projectile as the lehigh defense. My back up is a .380 and a friend just got a .32... I had never looked into this caliber, thanks again for posting. Yowza...9mm to 10 jump? You missed a few calibers for autos (not hating, just saying) carry on!!!
Really liked the video. I like testing in water soaked stacks of newpaper its cheap and completely even where different bullet s pass thru. And i hate to waste a good ham. Ha ha. Thanks
I understand that but I still love shooting my PK380 and I also have a Creed 9mm, FNS-40 and my never fail(not a joke) SD9VE ...... have a great day ...
Just speaking for me personally I prefer the 380 because I live in Louisiana where it's hot a good part of the year and I wear a lot of shorts and sandals. So my Glock 26 is considered a carry weapon and is compact, reliable, and has great stopping power but in a pair of shorts it's very heavy. It drags one side of my shorts down or if I wear it in the rear it still drags the back of my shorts down. So for just heading out to the movies with my wife, going out to eat or to an outdoor concert or event, I find the 380 to be superb. It's so light I can barely feel it's there and it doesn't print or show because it's so slim. It holds 6 rounds in the magazine plus one in the chamber so with 7 rounds I don't feel at a disadvantage. I could carry a lightweight J-frame .38 with more power but again the cylinder makes it wider, it's heaver than the 380 and it has 5 rounds vs the 7. So to conclude, yes I get a little less power with the 380 but it's light enough to throw in the shorts pocket and forget it. It provides me with 7 rounds or chances to stop that attacker. If someone was harming me or the wife I'd pump 5 rounds into them so fast that surely at least one round is gonna hit a vital organ. If they even blink after the 5th round I'll pump 2 more into them for good measure all while we are backing up and getting the hell out of dodge. Now if I wore pants more often with a belt, I'd go with a compact 9mm for sure but I am just one of those relaxed guys that love baggy or comfortable clothing. Go to the beach and fishing a lot where I wear shorts and ride ATV's and do a lot of outdoor activities again where I'm wearing shorts. The 380 fits me well
Sorry 'bout being late getting here, but life seems to be what happened while I'm making other plans. First, I feel a lot more comfortable with my carry choice now...9X18 Makarov. With Horn. Crit. Def., it'll do all I need it to do. Second, once that pistol sent the bullet on it's way, it became the cue ball. Hitting the bone was the break. Things went well, my friend...them bone chips got scattered from hell to breakfast. If you think that kind of action would feel soothing to a thug, you'd probably be wrong(8-). Great vid...thanks for posting it!(8-)
straight simple video, if you can carry do it when ever possible practice practice . get to know your weapon clean it . Take it apart and put it back together a few times when you can ...Thanks for posting !
The 9 mm has taken big bucks out 30 yards and taken them down within 1st minute with a double lung shot. The 9 mm can make pass through big bucks chest with ease. I mean there is videos of troghpy bucks taken out with 9 mm of course it's close range but still shows 9 mm is super powerful. I could not see a 32 acp or 380 doing that kinda damage in single shot to deers chest cavity in single shot or taking it down quickly. The whitetail buck that is.
Just started watching 1-1-18 Excellent job done. However neither of these guns were designed with any form of distance shooting in mind up close personal less than 3 feet or so. I was surprised to see how both measured up.
Sure found a fool proof way to tenderize ham!. I'm satisfied with the .32 through 9mm cal myself...I do like that wadcutter in .38spl,&I agree with a .32 FMJ or Lehigh get the best penetration. Good job on the video!
Remember bad bad Leroy Brown Lived in southside of Chicago, badest part of town and what did he carry ? a 32 gun If it's good enough for The meanest man in town bad Mr. Leroy Brown it's good enough for me
From the experience I've had. Ball rounds are the way to go with the smaller calibers. Less snag points when feeding due to non over penetrating, when shot placement is used...if there is time to place your shot.
Shooting them in the little finger or earlobe with a 45 isn't going to somehow be better than a 32, so shot placement is no more or less important with either calibre One shot, centre mass, at personal defense range, with a 32....will do it, and more besides Probably the most popular calibre with military officers and police of the last 100 years. Of course, everyone is a tactical John Wick these days, and need at least 13 rounds of 380 to...I dunno, take on Yakuza in a dramatically lit bath house?....or some crap. Get shot in the big toe with a 22 short and you'll lose interest in someones wallet tbh lol
@@DomRivers67 But you still proved my point. Shot placement. Center mass. Still shot placement. A bullet is a bullet. True. But the caliber and area of entry does make a difference. No argument here. And who said little finger or earlobe? Lmao! If someone chose those they already lost the battle of wit. Now if it's your only available target then you have to do what you have to do.
I have read several times that there is not much difference between the ..32 and .380. Therefore, I alternate between two of my carry weapons, a Seecamp .32 and Ruger LCP .380. p.s. waiting for a new small frame 9 millimeter to arrive. That gun will be added to the mix.
Awesome video. Instead of purchasing the meat, many butchers will give away meat that has gone bad for free or next to nothing. They will also give you big beef bones with no meat on them for very cheap and sometimes free. Thanks and God Bless
NOT BEING MEAN BUT THERE'S ALOT OF TARGETS OUT THERE THAT WOULD DO SOCIETY A FAVOR PRACTICE ON AMMUNITION SHOULD BE GOVERNMENT ISSUED AT NO COST. GIVE US BACK OUR INVESTED TAX MONEY AND RIGHTS THE GOVERNMENT STEALS FROM US - GOVERNMENT THIVES SHOULD BE MANDATORY TARGETS.
Keep your tools on you if you'll keep a 32 on you great. If its s 380 great. If it's a mini revolver in 22mag better then a fist. But keep your tools on you and maybe even a reload or two. First to put shots on target usually wins the gun fight. See John at asp channel.
My 4 carry guns nowadays ..Ruger lc9sPRO 9mm -10%of the time .. the other 70 % I carry..my Taurus TCP .380 loaded with Corbon DPX .all copper hollows ..or my 11oz Smith & Wesson 342 air light centennial .TI (titanium cylinder) .38 sp .HST .+p.38 130 gr... Both in my right hand jeans pocket and a DeSantis Superfly pocket holster.. the other 20% of the time when I'm wearing lightweight shorts or lightweight dress pants is my Kel-Tec p32..GEN #1 ... Extremely reliable and accurate up to 50 ft...7oz unloaded .. this gun I could clip to the waistband of my tighty whitey bvds if I wanted to walking around the house 🤣🤣.. I recommend FMJ hardball 32.. as you do not want the rim lock problem you get with shorter hollow points and you want penetration
MadavTV that’s a no brainer. 9mm. Magazine capacity in a concealed carry gun is insignificant to me. A Glock 43 is smaller and lighter than both of the guns you mentioned. I personally carry a Shield 40 cal.
You don't want to kill a scumbag...you want to wound / stop them and then watch them go them to Prison...have you not seen what happens to any White Guy who shoots anyone no matter the circumstance lately ?
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Nicely done. I think a big part of caliber debate is that people over estimate the durability of the human body. Nobody out there has bullet proof organs, arteries, or central nervous system.
A lot depends on where it hits, and that varies with each situation. Doubt the bad guy will ask what caliber. Hopefully it's academic and won't be tested in a real self defense situation. More powerful is better but you've also got to have the firearm with you when you need it.
I carry my 100 year old 1903 Colt Hamerless everyday. It NEVER fails. Rimlock is not an issue for me. The .32 is way more than enough. Especially using current CD cartridges.
Maybe with a shot to the brain
It’s probably worth noting that a 380 works for summer carry given light clothes on both parties. As weather gets colder it makes more sense to go up in caliber given a larger handgun is easier to conceal and also capable of penetrating more layers of clothing.
Like your video and the calibers chosen. I have a .380 auto and feel even more confident. The larger calibers do more damage but the .380 does enough.
Not very likely to cause collateral damage either. 380 is a kick ass round and has a few advantages than the others.
It also was and still is used in pocket pistols like the colt pocket 1903 hammerless and the kel tec p32
@@ricksmith2836 well it’s a mini 9mm
here is my conclusion.i got hungry and went and bought me a smoked ham
and some ribs
Nice video. No long winded intro and gets to the point.
Awesome video! Thanks for the info! I always knew that .32 acp is a potential killer but finally get to see the kinda damage it does with good ammo
All handgun rounds are lethal. More people die from .22 caliber each year than any other. All calibers will poke a hole in you. Pop a few rounds into an attacker with a .22 and see if they keep coming at ya.
Potential killer lol, carried by military officers and police the world over for over a century. Certainly all you'll ever need to protect yourself unless you are harbouring strange John Wick fantasies where you are "taking on" some "bad guys". shoot somebody centre mass with a 32 and, at best, they are looking at extended hospital stays.
I like this dude. Just a fella obtaining facts. Keep it up brother!
I can really appreciate how you conducted this video! It wasn't the typical "my caliber is better than your caliber" type of video. Just a straight-up test with some smart advice at the end. Keep up the good work!
I have bad arthritis so I love my little 32s that I have I have a Kel-Tec p32 and I have a nice old Beretta model 81 which is a 12 shot 32 and very accurate I love them both
Very good video. Even the .32 is going to take the fight out of the worst be bad guy. Excellent point about caring the gun that you feel comfortable with.
Roger Carrico a .22 will do that too
Yup. The thought that you've been shot will scare the eff out of anyone.
Thanks for your testing in actual flesh.. A real game changer for me, confidence builder.
That 38 load was crazy lookin man! Great expansion on that funky hollow point wadd cutter type thing.
yes
Love the down to earth, simple, non elitist attitude!
Forrest Gee ha nutn fan club admin! Good review eh?
Agree .. the elitist “better listen to me you fool” attitude of so many is wearing thin .. just want people to speak in a normal tone ..
@@richlucero3536 is the best 357 I think so I have two of them
I immediately thought of nutnfancy 🤢🤮
That was a really good video!! Thanks for taking the time and trouble to make it.
I really enjoyed your video and you opinions seem well thought out and make a lot of sense .. I subscribed... thank you
Nice video great unbiased info for anyone interested in these calibers. I have all except 10 mm and am confident that all will get the job done. Thanks for posting.
A small firearm is deadly with the right defensive ammo especially in a .32 acp and .380 acp. Critical Defense, Gold Dot, and Lehigh defense rounds are excellent defensive rounds.
Great video guys , i carry a 32 tomcat sometimes when i can"t carry my para p-12. You got my sub.
Thanks for the video my friend I love simple backyard videos you can't beat that thanks again.
liked the video, been leaning on getting a 32acp this video helped make my decision. I live in a rural area 10,000 in the whole county and work in a town of about 5000 so carrying a p32 would be easy for every day carry compliance and just makes more since for me. theres been one armed robbery and no murders for the last 30 years in my county. i would like something i can just throw in my pocket thats easily shootable thats not a 2 finger 380. I think 32acp will fit the bill for me. thanks for the vid
MrScottJ87 I use Sellier & Bellot FMJ in mine. It is reliable even after many years and hundreds of rounds. I use it all the time in hot South Georgia where hand cannons cause you to alter your wardrobe.
MrScott.J87 Both you gentleman are right on that. The 32 Lehigh rounds exceed FBI specs in gel wound penetration. In fact, I think somewhere on UA-cam, some guy ran a vid on it. I just wish I could run across another black Tomcat 3032.
MyJudoman Maybe try the "Inox" stainless 3032Beretta Tomcat, I love mine & I've seen more of them over the last 2yrs than the original black model.
If you live and work in an area with no murders and only one armed robbery in the past 30 years, why do you feel the need to carry then? I own tons of guns and live in an area similar to yours. I never carry. Never seen the need. Now if you were to be the one guy in 30 years that breaks into my home, well that's another story....
@@moncorp1 Most folks didn't have the "need" to lock their doors until the inevitable (robberies, murder, rape,).
I have a 32 Colt Model 1903 "Pocket Hammerless", my grandfather bought in 1922 and finally, handed down to me. It has been a wonderful, flawless operating and reliable auto pistol for almost 100 years now. I had it worked on 22 years ago for a tune up and some blueing. It is now 95 percent and still shooting strong. I live in California and do not have a CC permit, but I do carry this gun at "certain times". Fuck it, i am 70 years old with no priors. If I ever do get pinched for carrying a concealed weapon, I doubt I will have to do any time for it. So, in the mean time...
StellarBlue1 you ever want to sell the Colt....let me know.
johnscreekmark - So, you are a fan of the Colt Pocket Hammerless too? I can understand why, it is a fine piece of craftsmanship, design and machining. In any event, the gun does have my nephew's dibs on it when I get along.. But, thanks for your interest and offer. Take care.
StellarBlue1 That Colt is a fine piece of workmanship. I’m scouting one out as we speak. My interest in .32 started with a almost accidental acquisition of a Beretta Model 70. The 1903 Colt was initially an esoteric interest as one of the Firearms used by Paul Kersey (aka Charles Bronson) in the movie “Death Wish II”. Cheers!
john - Years ago, I had a Beretta 70 in 22LR. I sadly traded it away for a s&w .38. Now, I am sorry I did, as it was a really fine pistol. Yes, I remember that DW movie. That gun was given to Paul Kersey as a presentation piece in a wood box if I remember correctly. It was chrome plated, was it not? Of course my Colt 32 model is old but I had it re blued/tabled and like any piece J. Browning put his mind in, it is basically flawless. Enjoy your .32! You will love it, I promise...
.32 is an interesting round. I just picked up a Beretta 3032 TomCat and like it for a pocket carry. Your recollection of "DW" is good, however - in the original DW, Kersey was given a .32 Colt "Police Positive" revolver in the case. In DW2 he started using a Beretta 84 (real nice .380) and acquired the 1903 Colt Hammerless after interrupting a mugging/rape in an underground garage. He shot one of the muggers with his 84, and then picked up the 1903 Colt Hammerless that the dead mugger dropped...using it as a 2nd firearm throughout the rest of the movie.
I have an 84...now fishing around for a Colt Police Positive and 1903 Hammerless. Enjoy.
Charles bronson used a .32 in the movie death wish! Guess the writers felt it was adequate.
Just having Charles Bronson being the shooter added 100 grains to the bullet and 500fps to the velocity.
heck of a video.. interesting on the wadcutter. I think 32 ACP is fine for self-defense probably the bare minimum though.. not a super heavy bullet but decent velocity.. I still don't understand why they download the 10mm to basically 40 cal velocity.. kind of a waste.. great video
"For those who haven't seen it before, what we have here is the meat target ..."
Where is the new and improved bullet stop
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one of the most informative vids…. made a lot if good points….👌
I like gel tests for the consistency but this was a great real world simulation with the different densities that a real world bullet would have to go through.
Nice job. keep up the good work. I picked up so good info.
As a person contemplating the Kel Tech P32 for a BUG and around home primary, I appreciate your efforts. I totally agree on ball ammo in mouse guns
I had one and carried it primarily because of my job. The pocket clip accessory is cool. Really shitty sites but that's common w pocket rockets. All in all its a good belly gun. I would only run fmj in it. Realistically a hollowpoint isn't going to expand or in the slim case it does it won't penetrate deep enough.
Hey, I think you know more about guns
Ball ammo is fmj right?
But isn‘t a hollow point or rip ammo better for self defense, because first they have more stopping power and do more damage and 2nd they don‘t penetrate well, so innocent people which may stand behind the attacker could get hit from fmj
@The African Wildlife 🦁👑
FMJ's/Ball Ammo are good for rounds .32 caliber and less, because they don't produce enough energy to expand a hollow point designed bullet. Since there's not much powder to propel the bullet,, you need to use FMJ's to get decent penetration. There's really no concern of a FMJ passing through and causing collaterall damage on rounds .32 and less.
*Use Hollow points for 9mm and above because they are stronger loads and you want the bullet to expand and dump its energy without passing through. FMJ's for anything above 9mm are usually just used for practice at the range because they are much cheaper than Hollow Points!
Thank you for this, after seeing the 380 in the ham I feel a lot more confident carrying one for personal protection. If it can make it through leather, ribs and through a ham then I have no doubt any attacker would never want to get hit by 7 rounds from a pocket ruger lcp or a kel-tec p3at. Just imagine the ham as a person and you firing 7 rapid fire rounds of 380 into that ham. I'm sure the result would be someone tore up so bad they stopped breathing.
In my opinon it is not a fair comparision because the 32acp was fired from a short barrel (2,7in),and the 380acp was fired from a longer barrel(3,5in).
Truly excellent video. Down to earth without the hoopla. I especially liked that you used a target that was more like something I'd actually need to shoot, instead of that silly ballistic gelatin. New subscriber because of this video.
I have a 9mm and a 40cal in an IWB holster in my EDC rotation and carry one of my 380 pistols for a pocket backup. My 32acp is a little too big for pocket carry but I am accurate with it and have carried it on occasion. Thanks for the video and keep shooting 😊.
Good job. I like my .32 Beretta.
Underwood loads the extreme defender bullets in 32 acp. They say that the defenders penetrate a little more than the cavitators. I would assume that the defenders would do more damage too, based on the nose shape.
I love 32acp it gets shit on buts its proven itself already! Great video and unique I love this stuff thanks!
Just a good guy giving real life data..honest explanations
I have a walther pk380. The larger calibers do more damage but the .380 does enough.
Comparing two totally different bullet types is kinda silly ..you should've used the same type of bullet because in your test the 380 was put at a high disadvantage using that hollow point against that leighigh round in the 32acp
AAAAAHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHA!! When he pulled out the 10mm, I'm just like "Wait -- do you wanna test rounds or EXPLODE THE HAM??" Hahaha...awesome.
The Keltec is like 8 or 9 oz, you could carry it anywhere! The thing I worry about with the Lehigh bullet is the feeding, I’ve seen those in the Underwood loading jamming up a lot in different 32acps. But those extreme Cavitator are wicked little rounds! 🤔
Good video... The FBI ham test is often overlooked for terminal ballistics. Seriously, good content. Now I want a ham sandwich.
I owned a 32 and 380, never had an issue will 32, but lots with feed issues with 380
The idea is to have something on you at all time ,the caliber doesn’t matter ,you accuracy does ,32acp vs .380 in a small gun ,you’ll have more accuracy with the small caliber,I would pick 32acp or less for a small gun
Butcher “ oh a ham and some ribs for you boys, having a cook out this weekend?”
*uhhhh yeah*
"We're gonna tenderize the meat a little first though."
Thank you for posting...I do wish it was more apples to apples. A hollowpoint will sure act a lot different that a solid projectile as the lehigh defense. My back up is a .380 and a friend just got a .32... I had never looked into this caliber, thanks again for posting. Yowza...9mm to 10 jump? You missed a few calibers for autos (not hating, just saying) carry on!!!
telling by those glasses i think this was recorded IN 1999 when kel-tec first dropped the P-32
The closing statement is the answer.
Enjoyed your review. Thanks.
Really liked the video. I like testing in water soaked stacks of newpaper its cheap and completely even where different bullet s pass thru. And i hate to waste a good ham. Ha ha. Thanks
I know folks hate on the .380 but I like it !!!!!!!!
Rich Ki. 380 is a 9mm short. Why not carry a 9mm, which is more effective.
I understand that but I still love shooting my PK380 and I also have a Creed 9mm, FNS-40 and my never fail(not a joke) SD9VE ...... have a great day ...
Just speaking for me personally I prefer the 380 because I live in Louisiana where it's hot a good part of the year and I wear a lot of shorts and sandals. So my Glock 26 is considered a carry weapon and is compact, reliable, and has great stopping power but in a pair of shorts it's very heavy. It drags one side of my shorts down or if I wear it in the rear it still drags the back of my shorts down. So for just heading out to the movies with my wife, going out to eat or to an outdoor concert or event, I find the 380 to be superb. It's so light I can barely feel it's there and it doesn't print or show because it's so slim. It holds 6 rounds in the magazine plus one in the chamber so with 7 rounds I don't feel at a disadvantage. I could carry a lightweight J-frame .38 with more power but again the cylinder makes it wider, it's heaver than the 380 and it has 5 rounds vs the 7.
So to conclude, yes I get a little less power with the 380 but it's light enough to throw in the shorts pocket and forget it. It provides me with 7 rounds or chances to stop that attacker. If someone was harming me or the wife I'd pump 5 rounds into them so fast that surely at least one round is gonna hit a vital organ. If they even blink after the 5th round I'll pump 2 more into them for good measure all while we are backing up and getting the hell out of dodge.
Now if I wore pants more often with a belt, I'd go with a compact 9mm for sure but I am just one of those relaxed guys that love baggy or comfortable clothing. Go to the beach and fishing a lot where I wear shorts and ride ATV's and do a lot of outdoor activities again where I'm wearing shorts. The 380 fits me well
Thanks. 32 was better than i expected.
Sorry 'bout being late getting here, but life seems to be what happened while I'm making other plans.
First, I feel a lot more comfortable with my carry choice now...9X18 Makarov. With Horn. Crit. Def.,
it'll do all I need it to do.
Second, once that pistol sent the bullet on it's way, it became the cue ball. Hitting the bone was
the break. Things went well, my friend...them bone chips got scattered from hell to breakfast. If
you think that kind of action would feel soothing to a thug, you'd probably be wrong(8-).
Great vid...thanks for posting it!(8-)
tom frye police in Russia use tha handgun. Makarov i mean
Yeah...I guess they still use it. Why not? It works(8-).
straight simple video, if you can carry do it when ever possible practice practice . get to know your weapon clean it . Take it apart and put it back together a few times when you can ...Thanks for posting !
Dude you look just like that actor Kenny Johnson from that old cop show, the shield.
The 9 mm has taken big bucks out 30 yards and taken them down within 1st minute with a double lung shot. The 9 mm can make pass through big bucks chest with ease. I mean there is videos of troghpy bucks taken out with 9 mm of course it's close range but still shows 9 mm is super powerful. I could not see a 32 acp or 380 doing that kinda damage in single shot to deers chest cavity in single shot or taking it down quickly. The whitetail buck that is.
Just started watching 1-1-18 Excellent job done. However neither of these guns were designed with any form of distance shooting in mind up close personal less than 3 feet or so. I was surprised to see how both measured up.
Thank you for the informative video.
Nice test.
Nice job!
Sure found a fool proof way to tenderize ham!. I'm satisfied with the .32 through 9mm cal myself...I do like that wadcutter in .38spl,&I agree with a .32 FMJ or Lehigh get the best penetration. Good job on the video!
Many thanks when a test is done with real meat and bones.
.32S&W HBWC. Easy shooting, low blast, effective terminal ballistics.
I am confident carrying a .32 acp with hard ball.
My carry gun of choice is a .38 super 1911 but shot placement is the most important thing
This doesn’t seem kosher to me
I see what you did there.
Gosh.
Bullets hurt.
Who would have thought?
Remember bad bad Leroy Brown Lived in southside of Chicago, badest part of town and what did he carry ? a 32 gun If it's good enough for The meanest man in town bad Mr. Leroy Brown it's good enough for me
Man with a knife carved up Mr. Brown. So .32 didn’t work in this situation.
Next time, shoot ACROSS the meat grain. The hardball bullets slid along the muscle divisions and didn't have to tear the tissue!
Great summary.
From the experience I've had. Ball rounds are the way to go with the smaller calibers. Less snag points when feeding due to non over penetrating, when shot placement is used...if there is time to place your shot.
Shooting them in the little finger or earlobe with a 45 isn't going to somehow be better than a 32, so shot placement is no more or less important with either calibre
One shot, centre mass, at personal defense range, with a 32....will do it, and more besides
Probably the most popular calibre with military officers and police of the last 100 years.
Of course, everyone is a tactical John Wick these days, and need at least 13 rounds of 380 to...I dunno, take on Yakuza in a dramatically lit bath house?....or some crap.
Get shot in the big toe with a 22 short and you'll lose interest in someones wallet tbh lol
@@DomRivers67 But you still proved my point. Shot placement. Center mass. Still shot placement. A bullet is a bullet. True. But the caliber and area of entry does make a difference. No argument here. And who said little finger or earlobe? Lmao! If someone chose those they already lost the battle of wit. Now if it's your only available target then you have to do what you have to do.
.380 is a good self defense round. I dont know anyone who wants to test fate when they have a barrel pointed at them.
Great video. Thanks👍!
Hmm. Were those meats recently frozen? They don't appear to be acting like a room temperature ham being shot.
You can make a video using the same bullet in each caliber... with good research results.
Good job
There’s a reason .32 ACP has been popular with militaries and police for so long
32.ACP Walther PP is my choice, because it is what I carry.
Thanks!
Should have used comparable ammo, not completely different ammo
I have a old colt pistol in 32 it is so smooth I don’t know about power but it is fun to shoot!!!🤯🔫🧨
I have read several times that there is not much difference between the ..32 and .380. Therefore, I alternate between two of my carry weapons, a Seecamp .32 and Ruger LCP .380. p.s. waiting for a new small frame 9 millimeter to arrive. That gun will be added to the mix.
Nice video.
Human torso is a lot more fluid and gelatinous than a ham but it’s a cool test.👍🏻
Awesome video!
Awesome video. Instead of purchasing the meat, many butchers will give away meat that has gone bad for free or next to nothing. They will also give you big beef bones with no meat on them for very cheap and sometimes free.
Thanks and God Bless
NOT BEING MEAN BUT THERE'S ALOT OF TARGETS OUT THERE THAT WOULD DO SOCIETY A FAVOR PRACTICE ON AMMUNITION SHOULD BE GOVERNMENT ISSUED AT NO COST. GIVE US BACK OUR INVESTED TAX MONEY AND RIGHTS THE GOVERNMENT STEALS FROM US - GOVERNMENT THIVES SHOULD BE MANDATORY TARGETS.
Good video,good job!
Great video.
Is not 32 acp
It is 320 acp lol
the best round for pocket gun in the world
And Is not fair comparison
380 acp it does have
1 inch Longer barrel
Wow you're very amateur experiment was really good. Thanks for doing and posting that. I wouldn't wanna be shot by any of these.
Keep your tools on you if you'll keep a 32 on you great. If its s 380 great. If it's a mini revolver in 22mag better then a fist. But keep your tools on you and maybe even a reload or two. First to put shots on target usually wins the gun fight. See John at asp channel.
Yes you learn alot about what works and what doesn't work in a gun fight.
If that underwood extreme defender would have hit that ham bone it would have Pentwater farther than the 9mm
The 10mm could have shot thru the tree stump. But carry it every day?
My 4 carry guns nowadays ..Ruger lc9sPRO 9mm -10%of the time .. the other 70 % I carry..my Taurus TCP .380 loaded with Corbon DPX .all copper hollows ..or my 11oz Smith & Wesson 342 air light centennial .TI (titanium cylinder) .38 sp .HST .+p.38 130 gr... Both in my right hand jeans pocket and a DeSantis Superfly pocket holster.. the other 20% of the time when I'm wearing lightweight shorts or lightweight dress pants is my Kel-Tec p32..GEN #1 ... Extremely reliable and accurate up to 50 ft...7oz unloaded .. this gun I could clip to the waistband of my tighty whitey bvds if I wanted to walking around the house 🤣🤣.. I recommend FMJ hardball 32.. as you do not want the rim lock problem you get with shorter hollow points and you want penetration
The 10mm is for pate.
LMAO
it looks like the critical defense ammo is best?
you used a FMJ vs HP bullet.
not exactly a fair competition when it comes to penetration.
Great video. What make and model is your 380 pistol?
FEG from Hungary. Imported by KBI probably in the late 80’s or early 90’s.
It’s a copy of the Walther PPKS
If you had a choice, Beretta 81 13rds of 32, 84F 13 rounds of .380 or any single stack 9mm with 7 rounds?
MadavTV that’s a no brainer. 9mm. Magazine capacity in a concealed carry gun is insignificant to me. A Glock 43 is smaller and lighter than both of the guns you mentioned. I personally carry a Shield 40 cal.
You don't want to kill a scumbag...you want to wound / stop them and then watch them go them to Prison...have you not seen what happens to any White Guy who shoots anyone no matter the circumstance lately ?
What is the maximum range of 32 acp and effective range?
Those holes are pornografic the way you touch it., but the 32 caliber was good enough to start World War I so it is good enough for me
I always say French army used .32 acp (7,65mm) to clean German trenches during WWI and apparently without complaints
The 32 acp also ended WWII in Europe with Hitler using that caliber to kill himself.