For some reason people forget about power to weight. I don’t know much about motorcycles except for the fact that 100hp can get you places quickly compared to a 100hp car.
@@61936 one of my favourite morning routines is running my RC390 against the local Audi TT RS from stop light to stop light, I know I'm not able to keep up because the TT RS is just faster in every regard but it's a fun couple of minutes we both enjoy
@@mohammadmohammad1118 Yeah I started watching some Carwow ones since someone recommended it in this comments section earlier and yeah their channel is MUCH BETTER at choosing "Fair Matchups" since they seem to realize how fast most bikes are. It's funny how it takes $500,000 High End Supercars or $1million+ Literal HYPERCARS to finally go toe to toe with a....$20K bike lololololol.
My genuine feeling realizing my 800HP Vette puts me to sleep now. I debated on making it 1100HP or even 1300HP using an F1X Procharger, but when I saw it was like $20K+ for all that work, my brain was like, "But a Hayabusa costs that much" LOL
My "middleweight" 105bhp Street Triple with me riding it has a similar power to weight ratio as a Dodge Challenger Hellcat. Let that sink in. And there are bikes you can buy for the price of an econobox making double the power to ratio as this.
@@SuperSpruce Street Triple is a sweet bike. I rode one a few months back at Triumph's Demo Day at MotoAmerica. I'm still a sucker for the Speed Twins and it's rumble, but Triumph is one of the only companies that makes some good 3 cylinders!
@@SuperSpruce... I just worked out my bike's p/w ratio! 230kg ZZR1400. Lightly tuned (Akro 4-1 zorst, air filter, ECU remap, standard gearing) 196bhp *at the wheel.* = 852bhp/tonne. Runs a 9.2 QM @ over 150mph and tops at ONLY 205mph+. It's pretty quick! And only cost £5k
I don't know if it's just me, but it's common sense to me that the power to weight ratio is wayyyy greater in a bike than a car. Even if it's a 1000hp supra, that's still heavy.
bUT SuPRA iS FaSTeST ThING EvER. EVEN FaSTER ThAN aN SR-71 BLaCKBiRD!!!!!!!!!! But yeah I think the Inner JDM Fanboy mentality overpowered the decision making ability
@@BladedAngelwhat about the Honda Blackbird named after the SR-71? 😏 Brilliant bike, felt like a Gen 0 Busa. Hopefully I can get another one again someday
The power to weight is a constant measurement, however, the power delivery is much different. A close ratio gearbox with a quickshifter is worth a couple tenths already then add minimal drive train loss then low wind resistance on top of that and you have a machine that accelerates exponentially until it reaches top speed. It's a crazy experience.
bro i got like 15hp scooter, i feel like imma die only at 70mph, maybe they're not that good of a build, but feeling all the wind on your face makes me think human wasn't build for that speed, unlike car that protect you in a crash, if i hit the curb im on my own with plastic shell on my head
@@mr.2minutes161 its definitely helmet choice too. I used to think 50-70mph was uncomfortable because I started riding 10 years ago as a "Typical Harley Guy" but since moving to ATL 6 years ago, I started to wear a full face since I no longer trusted drivers around me. I will NEVER go back to half or 3/4 helmets. I have a FIM (MotoGP) Rated Scorpion Helmet that just glides through the wind, it's majestic...even when going hoodrat speeds on a ZX14R lmao.
Only difference is that the skill required to handle that speed is so much higher for the bike than any car. Its so much easier to control a car than a bike.
@@eomersimbajon2938insurance isn’t so bad until you check mark sport and Liter bike. If you have a big engine but it’s seen as a naked or touring bike then you can get a cheap rate.
Car guys always mention things like "oh a 300hp civic? that thing probably flies with how light it is!" But forgets that a bike weighs like 4x less, and has a little less, if not the same amount of horsepower
yeah and it use to be that bikes where terrible att launches because they would just wheelie and struggled to put the power down but these days with modern tech they are just crazy even att launches. like you seen that carwow video of the MotoGP bike drag racing against rally car F1 car a like 2000hp Ev van and it just obliterated all of them.
People really think "Oh, yeah, my whacked-out 1000 hp Supra can smoke that superbike," never realizing that it would take something on the level of a stock Koenigsegg Jesko or Agera One:1 to just match that bike's power-to-weight. On a launch, the car will usually win due to higher traction, but on a rolling start, it takes an absolute monster of a car to match a superbike.
My "middleweight" 105bhp Street Triple with me riding it has a similar power to weight ratio as a Dodge Challenger Hellcat. Let that sink in. And there are bikes you can buy for the price of an econobox making double the power to ratio as this.
Except that it doesnt, you have to take into account the weight of the rider, doing that rises the power to weight ratio of a superbike to something more along the line of 1,4-1,5kg/hp, still good but not as good as a 1:1 Agers
@@SuperSpruce Search on UA-cam: "Zip SP 172ccm Malossi / MTC vs Subaru Impreza 402 PS" - moped with ~30hp engine is basically on the level of 400 HP Subaru Impreza
In the carwow Bugatti vs H2r video the bike was fully keeping up with a quad turbo 1500hp awd beast of engineering. It is very impressive also considering the price
I saw that video where some guys put a V8 on a Miata and the car became undrivable, literally could not move because the tires would just spin like if the car was on a frozen lake
@@Carlisho yep because the car doesnt have enough weight to push the tires down to have the needed traction it doesnt matter what tires you use , the miata is not heavy enough
If you ever think horsepower alone wins a race, remember: The M1 Abrams also has a 1500 HP turbine engine. A Javelin missile, if you convert its thrust output to horsepower, comes down to around 487 HP. It would still catch an Abrams pretty fast. Sounds like a stupid analogy, but that's trust to weight ratio for you.
I like the comparison, but this is pretty different. That's not about power/weight or who can get the most traction. One of them has MUCH more friction to fight against.
As a biker its always so satisfying seeing a sports car go hard off the line while we waited for the green light and I pass him while im just riding back home chilling after my shift. And my bike is an ADV bike its heavy, big and just made for touring, its basically an SUV in the bike world 😂
LOL thats some great cope you got going on.. You pass them at a light due to being able to lane split.. don't act like you're out there smoking race cars on your touring bike...
@@mikeadz1 weight is not really much of a factor even if you have 20kg extra more than a sports bike. With gearing, it depends on the bike, some have quite agressive low gearing like the africa twin, others have longer gearing, from the top of my head i remember suzuki 1050xt and pan america having quite boringly high gearing.
@@mikeadz1 yea top end is where most of them will lack since they are made for grunt low power but up until 120/130 mph, you'll find no lack of fun with them since the big torquey engines will give you plenty of high heart rates.
As a biker myself with literally zero interest in cars, I appreciate this video not just because I'm biased towards bikes but the fact that it just simply lays out the straight facts that everyone has been arguing about for years! But at the end of the day, we all like different things and that's what makes the world interesting. It's not all about speed and horsepower but more about enjoying our passion for all things engines and mechanics - we should all stop arguing and trying to prove something to each other and just ride🏍, or drive🚗 our own rides! Great video Angel. 😀👍
the used car market is so awful that i've started taking an interest in motorcycles because they're actually worth buying. i do plan getting myself a 125cc (europe) used bike
@@Dave-ks9ig same the market for light, well handling cars is so expensive. I have my gs300 (and eventually a turbo aristo) but those are highway cruisers. I'm def gonna be getting a bike for the backroads since I am not gonna spend 30k on a s2k or rx7
125cc does not really give you the thrill a 300/400cc+ bike gives you though but they are great commuters as long as you don't ride much highway. I had a Ninja 400 as a first bike and just went to a z900se, the 400 gave me great thrills the first year of owning it. Now the z900 is doing the same all over again.
Those people often get bamboozled by my car. My old hatchback doesn´t even have much hp, but it just weights around 1300kg/2900lb. Sometimes I got big SUV behind me on the Autobahn, thinking my old and small car is slow. But their SUVs do weight over 2000kg/4400lb and got the aerodynamics of the White House. Good luck catching me.
That's why I put a 5 liter v8 in my tiny ford ranger lol. The 800 horsepower turbo deisels are always very surprised when they try to roll coal on me on the highway but can't get in front of me
As guy who like bikes,cars, planes and even tanks. Brother a 300hp bike can smoke a 1500hp car💀 Though higher hp doesn’t mean shit if you can’t enjoy riding/driving it. Crotch rockets are fun and drifting is too
Why is it 1500whp twin turbo r8 s are destroying built bikes though? This video is disingenuous from hooligan but they never do apples to apples. They used a drag bike vs a streetish supra. The supra had to peddle a lot you can see and hear it. I've also seen boosted coyotes leave built bikes in the dust before.
@@hatch450sx3 hold up, so a bike with street tires, an aftermarket exhaust and some weight reduction is a drag bike meanwhile a Supra on a full drag setup but stock interior is a street build? That logic ain't adding up. I'm not gonna say you're wrong that a lot of drag cars can leave a lot of built bikes behind, but when it comes to these 2 the bike is hardly modified while the car would be NHRA ready if you just added a cage
@@hmmmph.A lot of those are running closer to 3000 hp than 1500, and even the bikes can still just get away. Plus, that is such a heavily modified car, you should expect it to do well against them.
Talking mainly about circuit, tracking a car feels much easier than a bike, the feeling of almost failing while trying corner as much as you can while not giving too much throttle but coming out alive from it is very good. Although I feel every piece of machinery should be appreciated so I never really underestimated them.
Yeah, Cars Traction Advantage is just way more confidence inspiring but also just better with physics. Bikes can roll, wheelie, lean, and be silly. But for Cornering and Acceleration, Cars are still King.
Actually the exact opposite for me, I feel like bikes give me a very exact feeling of where limits are, I know I’m at the tightest radius turn for the speed I’m going and what my suspension is doing when I’m dragging knee or elbow correctly and the feedback because of how connected you are to both tires and your front brake if you have good brakes (even if you don’t basically every bike at least has semi-floating disks) is beyond anything I’ve experienced in a car
@@cataclysmicdelta1828 I think you misunderstood what was being said. It's that while a bike may have more capability than a car when cornering, its far easier for a driver to exploit most of its cornering capabilities of a car than a motorcyclist can of a motorcycle. Take an average car driver and they can get their car far closer to the limits of its ability than most motorcyclists can. A big part of that is that the risk vs reward for going over the limit is much higher for a motorcyclist. Cross the limit on a motorcycle and you are pretty much guaranteed to be going down either highside or lowside. Once you go down you are on a straight line to whatever is on the outside of that corner and if it is a guardrail, trees, a car or truck, or a building you are not likely walking away. By contrast a car might drift or fishtail. Even if it does spin out, roll, or fishtail wildly off the road, the driver has lots of metal protecting them from the consequences of the error. The likely hood of a car driver walking away is far greater. Yes I agree I find cornering a motorcycle far more involved and enjoyable than a car, but even when I have gone on track, the risk of pushing the limit keeps me slower than what i might do in a car in the same corner.
8:13 your comment about wind resistance on a naked bike is spot on. Cop: what are you doing going 150 mph on a naked bike. Biker: resistance training for an F1 race. Gotta get my neck swoll.
Even MotoGP riders have trouble sometimes with launching their bikes at the start, imagine a mere mortal like me trying to launch my '23 RSV4 from a stop 😂
Saw a video of a stock gsxr600 smoking a stock hellcat from a roll. Everyone in the comments was like nah that has to be a 1000 xyz excuse. No bikes are just fast people. I had a ktm 1290 super duke r, 180hp crank and that was unglodly fast. Like 9.9 second 1/4 mile stock fast. Some of these bike make 200-220hp crank stock and are lighter than my bike was. Ducati Panigale V4 specifically I couldn’t imagine.
I remember racing a stage 2 golf GTI on my ancient GL1200 Goldwing once. I pulled hard on him till the next light, maybe 2 car lengths, where I stopped again. He even warned me at the stoplight "I'm stage 2 downpipe and watermeth." Dude was definitely traction limited, it sounded like he was front wheel drive. He asked if the bike was stock afterwards, and that there's no way "a bike that looks like that" is "so fast" Even a suuuper slow bike like my goldwing runs a sub 13 quarter, and a sub 4s 0-60 according to my dragy. People REALLY sleep on bikes.
Yeah, I've got a 1995 BMW R1100RT touring bike (owned from new) with a whole 90 HP. Sources differ on whether they're 3.9 or 4.0 for 0-60, but it's in that ballpark, and 12.7 for a 1/4 mile. And averages 40 mpg.
A couple of years ago, a guy in a base model Corvette told me that he could outrun my Ducati Panigale V2. He was serious too! I just chuckled on the inside 😂 I didn't even waste my time racing him.
I drive an old Suzuki RF900R, which when new, claimed 135 hp. Some guys infront of me intersections launch their cars thinking they can outpace an old bike. Havent met one yet that could, but then we also dont get the crazy tuner cars where I live. What I find most funny is that they feel like they're really going fast, but to a bike rider it's at best a brisk acceleration. Cheers, loved the video.
Most of us under estimate how quick and fast the sport bikes are, bikes after ecu unlock and some gear set changing, they can be as fast as most of the supercar, while having hypercar level acceleration. All prevented them to be fast are just how dangerous they are when power just too much
On the road, I was having some fun on my ninja 400 against a c8 corvette. 5000 dollar bike vs 100,000 car. He beat me in the straits, but on the bends, I caught right back up.
My Dad gave me one of his old bikes (my first bike) a few weeks ago, a 20 year old xt 600 yamaha with only 48 hp, and at first i was like, cmon Dad, really? That thing is about to be soo slow... Then after one round up and down the street i did a full throttle pull in second gear and let me tell you, i have never felt something like that in my life. And thats on a xt 600 with 48 hp... I actually got scared for a second, thats how quick it felt. I cannot imagine what a 1000cc can do. Hopefully one day. Anyways, nice video man, keep it up!
attend a rider training program brov , them are fast, like the eye can catch up but the mind & body doesn't play ball in time and can miss a turn this is just 30-40% throttle (when I was riding) Kawi 1000SF (tourer segment I belive) its comfortable ...
Btw, we car guys don’t underestimate the bikes so much as we understand how to use the weaknesses against them. The top bikes and the top super cars are pretty much even 0-60, quarter mile times too. But in the twisties, the car gains it’s a
I'm a big car guy. Love cars. But I also love bikes. I own a 750 HP Cobra. And I know for a fact I'd get stomped by my 195 HP 07 GSXR 1000. That bike is equivalent to a 1200 HP Nissan GTR. I wish I was exaggerating. I twist the throttle just maybe a teeny bit and I go from 50 to 120+ in a blink of an eye. Extremely dangerous if you love speed because motorcycles are extremely unforgiving. If you tank slap at 150 mph on a motorcycle, lean on the tank and the front of your bike as much as possible, and keep control of your bike by giving it some throttle and say a prayer, because there are many times you can head straight to oncoming traffic to a TT, or to a guardrail where you'll be sliced into nothing. If I fishtail my Cobra I can very easily control it and that's the same with any car because cars are extremely forgiving. Anyway I'm sure a bunch of people know this. I just wanted to share my experience with being on a fast car and a fast motorcycle.
I don’t have super cars try and race me on my Scout 60 but I do get a lot of cocky teenagers in there 300-400 horse cars try and I still pull. It’s hilarious.
@@surfernorm6360 Cars used to be able to weight less than or slightly more than a ton. Then everyone for some reason decided they just couldn't be bothered anymore to try, bar a few exceptions
@@mattevans4377 "I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees" EDIT: ah, I missed the opportunity to create the "So you have chosen... death" meme on the first comment.
A good aware biker would've been prepared for that scenario. Riding on the road isn't that scary if you just stay aware of your surroundings. It's the bikers that get comfortable/ complacent that make mistakes.
Mate had a race with a fellow coworker. The bright pink 700hp Skyline never thought the 1400 Ninja would disappear... he copped it bad from all of us afterwards at work. He never drove it to work again.
When considering the fastest drag vehicle, you want: (of course) low drag (so low area and a better streamlined shape), the whole bike basically fits within the area of the driver so that’s about as efficient as you get; low weight (F=ma); enough power so you aren’t spinning your tires (so a low-weight-low-power is preferred over high-weight-high-power, for the same power-weight); then as compact as possible, so just sit the driver on the engine and have it drive a single wheel, then everything else is optional… Then you realize you’ve just conceptualized a bike! 🏍️
Such a shame that hoonigan is pro jumping starts. You can pretty much tell that the r8 owner didn't really give a shit after the Harley jumped the fuck out of the first start. That dude is a lot more respectable for actually sticking to the rules and keeping his calm when his competition is just blatantly jumping starts. Didn't even go to jump the start even after seeing the Harley zoom out ahead.
I feel like most bike guys are usually car guys starting out and have just wised up to the fact that not only is riding way more fun, it takes way more nuts to go as fast as you would in your car
Ive been car guy all my life and never considered a motorcycle before, but have always admired and appreciated them. Once covid hit, i found myself in the endless content trap, and found all of the stuff about bikes. Bikes are absolutely superior in terms of acceleration, braking, and sometimes style (Dont come at me). However, cars seem to have a handling, and general comfort on their side. Also when you are 20 years old, Insurance is MASSIVELY different for the two options. Would I still want a crazy performance car? Absolutely no question. However, there s just something that makes bikes special, both in terms of speed and performance, but also just in style and culture. And on a bike you’d pretty much be able to walk anything else LOL!
You mention 310hp bikes. Then at 10:30 discuss cars with 1000hp+ cars that can’t hook up on street tires. I’ve seen a few 300hp bikes leave a black strip all the way down to road while being beat by a 200hp bike that was able to convert power to motion.
Spend enough time at the track, you’ll inevitably see that guy on an R3 with some rider education smoking guys on 600’s and liters who think they’re untouchable.
@@davidmcleod5133 24years now I have been operating motorbikes. I’ve never done a track day. Eventually I will do it. Ive always used my bikes as my sole vehicle and daily commuter. I’m too afraid of damaging it then not being able to get to work. And currently I have an EV. It’s great for commuting. Serene bliss. Fantastic. But I don’t think I could get to a track do a lap and get home :P
When I was a kid, my Dad took me to the drag strip, and he raced his Gen 2 busa and It did a wheelie and hopped off the ground then he landed it and won the race (I think)
As someone who's built a 9 second AWD car and has god tier bikes (2023 Honda Fireblade SP with full exhaust, intake, velocity stacks, gearing, and tune & a similarly built Ducati Streetfigher V4 SP2) I feel like I can speak to this. Cars are so cool because it kind of a limitless platform and bikes are not as customizable in terms of power adders without really making them non streetable. My Fireblade is world endingly fast. Seriously it will straight up teleport you to the afterlife, I haven't had any cars challenge me yet but I've been able to outrun every bike that's come for the smoke so far.
I don't even understand why we need to have this conversation. Both, both is good and it's like comparing apples to pears. They're not the same and you buy them for different reasons.
Considering this is US, I won't be surprise there's still car culture "superiority" out there. Both internally inside those community or externally among other community Espescially when it confirmed by bladed himself
Finally, more motorcycle content! And yeah, motorcycles are stupidly fast. I have a '12 Triumph Street Triple R, and I recently drag raced it and it ran 12.0 @ 114 in the 1/4 mile, with noob drag racing skills and a headwind. If this doesn't sound fast, think of it this way: A $5k 675cc 3-cylinder middleweight naked bike easily outruns a $50k Mustang GT350 in the quarter mile. And we bikers can wheelie :)
Literally so early there are 4 bots that are less than day old saying "how do plan on growing your content?" And "you content always brings a smile to my face!!" And another asking "how do you decide what content is best for your audience?" UA-cam needs to get on tha bot stuff, and the majority of time its pretty easy to tell a bot from a human because they almost always have a stereotypical hot woman showing their butt or wearing something that shows a lot of cleavage and its kinda getting annoying that youtube wont do anything about it. But they will stop an account from making money because we cant pay a creator for their success!! Whereas bots can just stay on the dang website and we can push ads at every possible oppurtunity, then ruin the search function and make it to where the only content people watch is shorts because we push it on EVERYONE. Edit: sorry for ranting at the end, but that's basically what has happened to UA-cam. It gets annoying fast when a previously good website decides to destroy themselves every five seconds.
Unfortunately, I have to manually remove them or wait for a Moderator to do so. They bypass all the filters I set, or the built-in UA-cam Comment Bot Detection. Large Channels have it even worse where they get REALLY DISGUSTING comments.
@@BladedAngel I'm so sorry that bots are this bad. It just sucks because all they do is show that UA-cam isn't a website to be taken seriously because it can't even afford to keep spam bots off the platform. I do love your content Bladed, it's awesome and you have a lot of fun videos. (I am aware that bot fighting is an unwinnable battle, but that doesn't change the fact that patterns are easy to pick up on and that a specific pattern of words could easily be coded to be banned.)
Sorry but I really resent that you want youtube to censor content that is anything but hardcore pornography. OR racist or Misoginist or provable lies. UA-cam is Based in the US and we have freedom of the press at last report. I want it to stay that way.
I had a zzr600, - z x 6r, 100 hp, 175kg, 0 - 100km/h 10.9s, Had a mate with a Ducati st2 955, who laughed at me, another mate with a worked Impreza, who thought his car could beat any bike, after 3 attempts, I witnessed 2 grown men with tears in their eyes. Oh how I miss that bike. Didn’t corner to well, wooden brakes, but damn, that acceleration, from 600cc’s, awesome!
There's one in ovieda (sp?) FL right now with 4000 mi. For 1900.00 Old guy owns it. I street drag so it's kinda small for my needs but man is it good looking, and what a deal.
The best part about bikes is that you don’t need a lot of horsepower to have fun. The 50cc yamaha scooter I had was one of the most fun bikes in the city😆
Funniest part is in a motorcycle sometimes the most heaviest part of the bike IS THE RIDERS THEMSELVES. A motorcycle is not pushing much weight and it's engine is the one that happens to be the heaviest part, so yeah a bike crossing 100 mark is same as a car crossing a 800 mark
@@mishamykhaylov9455 Im a skinny guy and im still 37% of the weight of my bike. You absolutely have to factor in rider weight when calculating a bikes P/W ratio.
Good video! I live in Australia where lane filtering is allowed and bikes get to the front at every traffic light. A 125 cc scooter will beat almost every car to the speed limit. The scooter will get all its power to the back wheel and there are no gears to change. Not bad while getting over 80 miles to the gallon.
Weight /power ratio, less friction on the road, less air drag and downforce do the job and make motorcycles much more efficient in drag race. But if it's about cornering they loos because of their advantages in acceleration. That's it
cant believe you completely forgot the ninja H2 that comes with a supercharged 1 liter engine making 228 horsepower stock, but forget that cause with a retune and a few internals you could easily match the H2Rs stock power of THREE HUNDRED FUCKING TWENTY SIX HORSEPOWER out of 1, yes, ONE liter. no i would never ride one, but i would love to get one so i could build my own single seater open wheel car using that gods graces 14,000 rpm redline
i stand corrected, i paused the video literally 3 seconds before you poped the H2 on screen, i will not be removing this comment so i can be clowned on like i deserve to be
that thing at 300hp can barely keep the front wheel down, in all of the videos you see, that bike wheelies at 150 mph, has waaaay too much power for the weight.
@@fs5866 i know! thats why its awesome and would be perfect for a bike engine open wheel race car project! but i would make it street legal cause that's pretty easy to do here in Arizona, and it would make one hell of a ride to work
@Jorby444 I don't know if you were paying attention, but 320+ horsepower on a 525 pound bike is absurd, sure you can spend $90,000 on mods to give your average $15,000 street bike more power, or you could buy it for half that and not risk separating your torso from your hips when the block grenades itself. A better comparison would be a Mercedes AMG GT4 vs a spec Miata
For me the joy of motorcycling is taking corners at max lean angle. That's an experience no car can deliver. And no carver-type thingies do not even come close.
Having a couple Harley’s, I can tell you that the Torque is what sets it apart on a launch. My 2020 Lowrider makes about 130 torque and the mods and tuning required are minimal. Stage 2 gets you a lot. I gapped a gallardo spyder with a stock Harley from a dig. I didn’t believe it at first. He wouldn’t believe me when I said it was stock.
Real, car is basically expensive hobbies in 3rd world country especially South East Asia, that's why we build crazy fast mopeds or 250 beginner bike to learn how mechanical stuff works
Yes and no, I’ve never really seen the point in bothering upgrading a car for it to still not even be fair competition entry level sport bike 😂 cars are cool in their own way but if ur getting into the scene for the sole purpose of being faster than most people on the road then it ain’t the move Completely different if you’re building the car out of genuine passion for it to look cool, sound cool and just be a nice build.
I can't say so myself I was a car guy until I got my first pit bike fell in love with pit bikes I got my first car at 16 couple months ago I just can't do it I love bikes I don't really like cars if I'm being honest maybe it's just cuz my car is slow but even when I try to take it to a canyon it's just not the same as a bike I prefer bikes now and I don't think I will change my mind
The fast cars tend to be quicker off the line and at very high speeds where the wind is slowing the motorcycle. Midrange speeds (40-100) the motorcycles tend to win.
So you never owned fast bikes right ? Mid range speed for something like a GSXR1000 is 80 to 130 is MPH, with traction control, most cars are not quicker off the line either. There's a lot of big bikes that'll do close to 180MPH, not many cars will do that, and they'll take more time getting there.... You do realise that most superbike style bikes are far more streamlined than most cars ? The wind only has a bigger effect if it's side winds
@@MickH60 don't have a motorcycle licence 😂 And you're probably right. The supercar inching forward over the superbike usually happens at more like 200 mph not 100.
@@MickH60 Traction control doesn't do diddly for making you launch quicker , just adds a safety net for mistakes. dude does have a point though since he specifically mentioned fast cars :P . if you hang around a dragstrip long enough you'll see in general quicker cars will launch harder but not have the MPH a bike does. for instance some 10 second cars will 60ft like an 8 second bike which is funny to see. on the other side of the spectrum bikes generally have a worse drag coefficient than cars but this matters generally too late to really matter.
I just worked out my bike's p/w ratio! 230kg ZZR1400. Lightly tuned (Akro 4-1 zorst, air filter, ECU remap, standard gearing) 196bhp *at the wheel.* = 852bhp/tonne. Runs a 9.2 QM @ over 150mph and tops at ONLY 205mph+. It's pretty quick! And only cost £5k
I'm a bike and car enthusiast, and i LOVE bikes. Like really. Prolly more than cars. But i still know alot about cars! I love the Hayabusa (just 190 hp!). And it is just CRAZY how fast bikes can go with just 100 horsepower or so. Thats literally 1500cc.. Considering the weight, it does help alot! Literally slapping just 100hp could literally make it a supercar killer.
14 years ago, Brock Davidson's BMW S1000RR ran an 8.49 at 158 and change, with a completely stock engine and no power adders, through the muffler, on a street tire, with no wheelie bar and no air shifter.
Motorcycle: 15.000$, 300km/h+ Car: 100.000$+, 300km/h Motorcycle: More adrenaline Car: No adrenaline Motorcycle: You give a girl a ride, she hugs you, instant connection Car: Girl will look more out the window than to your face Car: Congratulations, you crashed. Your legs are broken, you got glass all over your eyes, the airbag knocked the s*** out of you, you got a huge fine and license suspended for speeding, got no car. Motorcycle: Congratulations, you crashed. You're now sitting in heaven having the time of your life laughing at the car bro. Motorcycle: Spend less on gas, less on maintenance, less on tires. Car: Your car drinks more than a 55 year old fishing boat captain and you're forever awake at night in fear of the michelin man below your bed (the mechanic told him your adress). Motorcycle: Small garage, no biggie. Too much dust and pests? Cheap covers got you covered. Car: Small garage? Well get f*****, you'll have to park on the street while you cry watching some random chick twerk on your cars hood for a tiktok. The dude that takes a picture leaning over your 300$ monthly detail polish with his 4$ 5 year old sweater covered in doritos dust will come after her, for sure.
This also goes in the other direction too, where bike guys think they’re the fastest thing on the road because of acceleration. I live in NZ where there are tonnes of sketchy tight mountain and b roads, and sports cars rule the roost there. Super cars can’t put the power down and often ride too rough, and bikes still kinda corner like shit compared to a well set up car At the end of the day, they’re all awesome machines and even if it’s not your jam, you should still appreciate it
now, bring in some tight corners and some proper sports cars. Rinding bikes and owning some sports cars myself, it's crazy how much slower bikes - even super bikes - are on the twisty roads up in the alps. It's quite painful being behind a bike with a capable car, as after every corners bikes just flies on the straight, not letting you overtake. But then before the next corner you can see how bad bikes are in stopping power and basically how slowly they move around the corner
Exactly lol, all they think about is a straight line, that's not much of a race. Some light 240hp awd car is enough to keep up with some decent bikes in tight corners
Some months ago i was minding my own business while riding my zx6r. A seat Leon (turboed, probably a 20vt) came next to me, revving and bangs and pops from the exhaust. Just turned my wrist and keep speeding. He couldn't keep up with me, although my bike is a humble, stock 636cc. Couldn't imagine what would happen if i was riding a zx10r 😂. Thats why i love bikes, especially old school. With 2-3k you can get a 180hp liter bike and smoke whatever is lurking around.
Anything with wheels is fun. I’ve got a Husky 701, Yamaha MT-10, and a ‘15 C7. Sure the MT-10 can easily dust the C7, but they are both fun in their own way, and a blast at the track.
Well done on the explanation about needing better tire grip along with the horsepower 👍 especially when power hits a certain street tire grip max hold to power ratio 🧐
I drive a 50cc scooter as a daily due to it being super cheap to run/fix. But it never ceases to amuse me how often people are surprised by how quickly I can get around town compared to them, despite their cars being magnitudes faster. Their reactions are priceless
what i like more about bikes is.. you can have so much fun even going slow. doing turns, even parking, going down of an entrance. everything, the only downside are highways, there is boring and you get exahuster after some hours. but in the other side, routes are the best, enjoy the route, forest and mountains its the best.
3:48 forget busses. bro got trained
Honestly, yeah. That would've been the better measurement there.
Might not want to say that
About 2 trainlengths
😭😭😭
Phrasing, BOOM! ~Archer
For some reason people forget about power to weight. I don’t know much about motorcycles except for the fact that 100hp can get you places quickly compared to a 100hp car.
Most 100HP Bikes already get like 3second something 0-60s, so yeah 100HP for a 400lb bike FUCKING SCOOTS!!!!
@@BladedAngeleven bikes with 50hp are still capable of like what a sub 5 second 0-60
But traction is a real factor higher HP faster times.
So at a point it's power to weight at absolute traction
@@61936 one of my favourite morning routines is running my RC390 against the local Audi TT RS from stop light to stop light, I know I'm not able to keep up because the TT RS is just faster in every regard but it's a fun couple of minutes we both enjoy
@@hatch450sx3 i think he explained it pretty well at around 1:15
Funny how they saw the Aprilla have to chase down that Supra and lost by a few feet and they still thought the Supra would win from a roll
IKR!!
@@BladedAngelto be fair if you see carwow videos about cars vs bikes he knows the bike will win
@@mohammadmohammad1118 Yeah I started watching some Carwow ones since someone recommended it in this comments section earlier and yeah their channel is MUCH BETTER at choosing "Fair Matchups" since they seem to realize how fast most bikes are. It's funny how it takes $500,000 High End Supercars or $1million+ Literal HYPERCARS to finally go toe to toe with a....$20K bike lololololol.
@BladedAngel you can spend less than $10k on a mid 2000s liter bike and smoke almost anything on the road
@@BladedAngelLook MotoGP bike vs Rimac Nevera on carwow, crazy they are running both 8.6 1/4 i belive on a non prep whatever runway.
700hp on a car 🥱
150hp on a motorcycle💀
My genuine feeling realizing my 800HP Vette puts me to sleep now. I debated on making it 1100HP or even 1300HP using an F1X Procharger, but when I saw it was like $20K+ for all that work, my brain was like, "But a Hayabusa costs that much" LOL
My "middleweight" 105bhp Street Triple with me riding it has a similar power to weight ratio as a Dodge Challenger Hellcat. Let that sink in.
And there are bikes you can buy for the price of an econobox making double the power to ratio as this.
@@SuperSpruce Street Triple is a sweet bike. I rode one a few months back at Triumph's Demo Day at MotoAmerica. I'm still a sucker for the Speed Twins and it's rumble, but Triumph is one of the only companies that makes some good 3 cylinders!
@@SuperSpruce... I just worked out my bike's p/w ratio!
230kg ZZR1400.
Lightly tuned (Akro 4-1 zorst, air filter, ECU remap, standard gearing) 196bhp *at the wheel.*
= 852bhp/tonne.
Runs a 9.2 QM @ over 150mph and tops at ONLY 205mph+.
It's pretty quick!
And only cost £5k
@@SuperSpruce My 2017 ninja sx takes me to 100kmh in 3.5 seconds. And it's not even a die hard sport, it's a touring machine.
I don't know if it's just me, but it's common sense to me that the power to weight ratio is wayyyy greater in a bike than a car. Even if it's a 1000hp supra, that's still heavy.
bUT SuPRA iS FaSTeST ThING EvER. EVEN FaSTER ThAN aN SR-71 BLaCKBiRD!!!!!!!!!!
But yeah I think the Inner JDM Fanboy mentality overpowered the decision making ability
@@BladedAngelwhat about the Honda Blackbird named after the SR-71? 😏
Brilliant bike, felt like a Gen 0 Busa. Hopefully I can get another one again someday
@@BladedAngelfrom a standstill it could be possible 🤷
@@BladedAngel oh, but what if we LS Swap the motorcycle? Checkmate, supranerds!
The power to weight is a constant measurement, however, the power delivery is much different. A close ratio gearbox with a quickshifter is worth a couple tenths already then add minimal drive train loss then low wind resistance on top of that and you have a machine that accelerates exponentially until it reaches top speed. It's a crazy experience.
1500 hp car: chilling
240 hp motorcycle: *fighting for your life*
Facts lmao. Bro was face down ass up haha
@@BladedAngel lmao
bro i got like 15hp scooter, i feel like imma die only at 70mph, maybe they're not that good of a build, but feeling all the wind on your face makes me think human wasn't build for that speed, unlike car that protect you in a crash, if i hit the curb im on my own with plastic shell on my head
@@mr.2minutes161I had that on my 125. Then I got a big bike, went faster, and now 70 feels pretty good 😅
@@mr.2minutes161 its definitely helmet choice too. I used to think 50-70mph was uncomfortable because I started riding 10 years ago as a "Typical Harley Guy" but since moving to ATL 6 years ago, I started to wear a full face since I no longer trusted drivers around me.
I will NEVER go back to half or 3/4 helmets. I have a FIM (MotoGP) Rated Scorpion Helmet that just glides through the wind, it's majestic...even when going hoodrat speeds on a ZX14R lmao.
Its so funny to me that with around 5-6k you can get a bike that does 0-60 as fast as some ferraris
Only difference is that the skill required to handle that speed is so much higher for the bike than any car. Its so much easier to control a car than a bike.
well.... to be fair.... it isnt the price of the bike u should worry about, its insurance
@@eomersimbajon2938insurance isn’t so bad until you check mark sport and Liter bike. If you have a big engine but it’s seen as a naked or touring bike then you can get a cheap rate.
@@eomersimbajon2938insurance price for bikes are actually cheaper than cars
@@eomersimbajon2938 I may 25 a month, in Canadian, so that's about what 18 us. my Pontiac gunfire, however I pay 300 Canadian about what 220 us
Car guys always mention things like "oh a 300hp civic? that thing probably flies with how light it is!" But forgets that a bike weighs like 4x less, and has a little less, if not the same amount of horsepower
You guys talk about powers, I think about getting a bj while driving, bikers can get hj tops.
yeah and it use to be that bikes where terrible att launches because they would just wheelie and struggled to put the power down but these days with modern tech they are just crazy even att launches. like you seen that carwow video of the MotoGP bike drag racing against rally car F1 car a like 2000hp Ev van and it just obliterated all of them.
Kawasaki h2r…
5-6 times less, 5 with a rider, 6 without, lol.
@@pablo4yuKTM MotoGP Bike.
People really think "Oh, yeah, my whacked-out 1000 hp Supra can smoke that superbike," never realizing that it would take something on the level of a stock Koenigsegg Jesko or Agera One:1 to just match that bike's power-to-weight. On a launch, the car will usually win due to higher traction, but on a rolling start, it takes an absolute monster of a car to match a superbike.
My "middleweight" 105bhp Street Triple with me riding it has a similar power to weight ratio as a Dodge Challenger Hellcat. Let that sink in.
And there are bikes you can buy for the price of an econobox making double the power to ratio as this.
@@SuperSpruce I await the day someone does pink slips with me on my 1290 superduke gt thinking it's slow. MUAHAHAHHAHA
Except that it doesnt, you have to take into account the weight of the rider, doing that rises the power to weight ratio of a superbike to something more along the line of 1,4-1,5kg/hp, still good but not as good as a 1:1 Agers
@@SuperSpruce Search on UA-cam: "Zip SP 172ccm Malossi / MTC vs Subaru Impreza 402 PS" - moped with ~30hp engine is basically on the level of 400 HP Subaru Impreza
@@marcos1669 Still less wind resistance compared to any car. Power to weight is not everything.
In the carwow Bugatti vs H2r video the bike was fully keeping up with a quad turbo 1500hp awd beast of engineering. It is very impressive also considering the price
Whoa, I need to check that video out! That sounds insane!
But the Bugatti weight 2 tons so what do you expect
Thats the point hes making bikes will most likely be faster 7/10 times compared to cars usually because of weight 👍🏾@@drivefaster4u
But the bugatti is a brick of 2 tons
@@mathai_9150 I already said that!
to explain motorcycles to car guys is like
a 200hp motorcycle is like a 1000hp miata
BECAUSE THEY ARE LIKE 5 TIMES SMALLER AND LIGHTER
I saw that video where some guys put a V8 on a Miata and the car became undrivable, literally could not move because the tires would just spin like if the car was on a frozen lake
@@Carlisho Needs AWD for that power
@@Carlisho yep because the car doesnt have enough weight to push the tires down to have the needed traction it doesnt matter what tires you use , the miata is not heavy enough
@@X-Kittle The Miata might not way much but that V8 lump probably doubles its weight.
@@markjustmarc4562yeah in the front but what about the back where the drivetrain is 😭
If you ever think horsepower alone wins a race, remember: The M1 Abrams also has a 1500 HP turbine engine.
A Javelin missile, if you convert its thrust output to horsepower, comes down to around 487 HP. It would still catch an Abrams pretty fast. Sounds like a stupid analogy, but that's trust to weight ratio for you.
I like the comparison, but this is pretty different. That's not about power/weight or who can get the most traction. One of them has MUCH more friction to fight against.
As a biker its always so satisfying seeing a sports car go hard off the line while we waited for the green light and I pass him while im just riding back home chilling after my shift. And my bike is an ADV bike its heavy, big and just made for touring, its basically an SUV in the bike world 😂
Adv bikes are no joke, put street tyres on them and they can keep up with the sportsbikes, they have the power and the suspension required.
LOL thats some great cope you got going on.. You pass them at a light due to being able to lane split.. don't act like you're out there smoking race cars on your touring bike...
@@fs5866yeah power wise some of them go hard. Weight and gearing is the only thing that holds them back
@@mikeadz1 weight is not really much of a factor even if you have 20kg extra more than a sports bike.
With gearing, it depends on the bike, some have quite agressive low gearing like the africa twin, others have longer gearing, from the top of my head i remember suzuki 1050xt and pan america having quite boringly high gearing.
@@mikeadz1 yea top end is where most of them will lack since they are made for grunt low power but up until 120/130 mph, you'll find no lack of fun with them since the big torquey engines will give you plenty of high heart rates.
As a biker myself with literally zero interest in cars, I appreciate this video not just because I'm biased towards bikes but the fact that it just simply lays out the straight facts that everyone has been arguing about for years! But at the end of the day, we all like different things and that's what makes the world interesting. It's not all about speed and horsepower but more about enjoying our passion for all things engines and mechanics - we should all stop arguing and trying to prove something to each other and just ride🏍, or drive🚗 our own rides! Great video Angel. 😀👍
2:43 The smile on the riders face when they suggested a rolling start. He’s like, “Uh, 🙂sure, we can try that, I guess. Couldn’t hurt.” 😊
the used car market is so awful that i've started taking an interest in motorcycles because they're actually worth buying. i do plan getting myself a 125cc (europe) used bike
Same here. Can't afford a fun car, but can afford some really fun bikes
125cc are so fun been riding one for few weeks now, and when you feel confident enough you can always up the cc
motorcycles make so much sense if you like engines and speed and the thrill of power to the wheels but you're not a rich kid.
@@Dave-ks9ig same the market for light, well handling cars is so expensive. I have my gs300 (and eventually a turbo aristo) but those are highway cruisers. I'm def gonna be getting a bike for the backroads since I am not gonna spend 30k on a s2k or rx7
125cc does not really give you the thrill a 300/400cc+ bike gives you though but they are great commuters as long as you don't ride much highway. I had a Ninja 400 as a first bike and just went to a z900se, the 400 gave me great thrills the first year of owning it. Now the z900 is doing the same all over again.
Asian grandmas be like: *Look what they need to mimic a fraction of our power*
peoples lack of understanding of power to weight ratios never ceases to surprise me
Those people often get bamboozled by my car. My old hatchback doesn´t even have much hp, but it just weights around 1300kg/2900lb. Sometimes I got big SUV behind me on the Autobahn, thinking my old and small car is slow. But their SUVs do weight over 2000kg/4400lb and got the aerodynamics of the White House. Good luck catching me.
Like Teslas are pretty damn fast, but take out about 6000lbs of battery and they'd be REALLY damn fast lol.
That's why I put a 5 liter v8 in my tiny ford ranger lol. The 800 horsepower turbo deisels are always very surprised when they try to roll coal on me on the highway but can't get in front of me
As guy who like bikes,cars, planes and even tanks.
Brother a 300hp bike can smoke a 1500hp car💀
Though higher hp doesn’t mean shit if you can’t enjoy riding/driving it.
Crotch rockets are fun and drifting is too
Why is it 1500whp twin turbo r8 s are destroying built bikes though?
This video is disingenuous from hooligan but they never do apples to apples. They used a drag bike vs a streetish supra.
The supra had to peddle a lot you can see and hear it.
I've also seen boosted coyotes leave built bikes in the dust before.
No they wont theyres stroked vipers beating r1s, and twin turbo vipers beating fully built h2s
@@hatch450sx3 hold up, so a bike with street tires, an aftermarket exhaust and some weight reduction is a drag bike meanwhile a Supra on a full drag setup but stock interior is a street build? That logic ain't adding up.
I'm not gonna say you're wrong that a lot of drag cars can leave a lot of built bikes behind, but when it comes to these 2 the bike is hardly modified while the car would be NHRA ready if you just added a cage
@@hmmmph.A lot of those are running closer to 3000 hp than 1500, and even the bikes can still just get away. Plus, that is such a heavily modified car, you should expect it to do well against them.
@@Gengargamer2_ no theyre running 1800 at most, watch 1320s viper video
Any car guy that doesn't know how fast a motorcycles are, isnt a car guy. Just a guy that likes cars.
Talking mainly about circuit, tracking a car feels much easier than a bike, the feeling of almost failing while trying corner as much as you can while not giving too much throttle but coming out alive from it is very good. Although I feel every piece of machinery should be appreciated so I never really underestimated them.
Indeed it is, the same turn that MotoGP needs to go below 100 can easily charge above 200 with F1 car. Not great comparison but you get the idea
Yeah, Cars Traction Advantage is just way more confidence inspiring but also just better with physics. Bikes can roll, wheelie, lean, and be silly. But for Cornering and Acceleration, Cars are still King.
Actually the exact opposite for me, I feel like bikes give me a very exact feeling of where limits are, I know I’m at the tightest radius turn for the speed I’m going and what my suspension is doing when I’m dragging knee or elbow correctly and the feedback because of how connected you are to both tires and your front brake if you have good brakes (even if you don’t basically every bike at least has semi-floating disks) is beyond anything I’ve experienced in a car
@@cataclysmicdelta1828 I think you misunderstood what was being said. It's that while a bike may have more capability than a car when cornering, its far easier for a driver to exploit most of its cornering capabilities of a car than a motorcyclist can of a motorcycle. Take an average car driver and they can get their car far closer to the limits of its ability than most motorcyclists can. A big part of that is that the risk vs reward for going over the limit is much higher for a motorcyclist. Cross the limit on a motorcycle and you are pretty much guaranteed to be going down either highside or lowside. Once you go down you are on a straight line to whatever is on the outside of that corner and if it is a guardrail, trees, a car or truck, or a building you are not likely walking away. By contrast a car might drift or fishtail. Even if it does spin out, roll, or fishtail wildly off the road, the driver has lots of metal protecting them from the consequences of the error. The likely hood of a car driver walking away is far greater. Yes I agree I find cornering a motorcycle far more involved and enjoyable than a car, but even when I have gone on track, the risk of pushing the limit keeps me slower than what i might do in a car in the same corner.
8:13 your comment about wind resistance on a naked bike is spot on.
Cop: what are you doing going 150 mph on a naked bike.
Biker: resistance training for an F1 race. Gotta get my neck swoll.
Old joke from 2000s:
What do a 500hp Supra and a 1000hp Supra have in common?...
...They both run 10s.
Massive power only really becomes useful when the air resistance becomes the limiting factor instead of traction
Even MotoGP riders have trouble sometimes with launching their bikes at the start, imagine a mere mortal like me trying to launch my '23 RSV4 from a stop 😂
Damn that R8 vs Harley, was even more impressive than the Supra vs Aprilia
R8 has AWD and freaking 1500HP...
Saw a video of a stock gsxr600 smoking a stock hellcat from a roll. Everyone in the comments was like nah that has to be a 1000 xyz excuse. No bikes are just fast people.
I had a ktm 1290 super duke r, 180hp crank and that was unglodly fast. Like 9.9 second 1/4 mile stock fast. Some of these bike make 200-220hp crank stock and are lighter than my bike was. Ducati Panigale V4 specifically I couldn’t imagine.
Riding a 600 is a cruel experience sometimes cause I can run almost anything up to 140-150 but most sedans will mph me on the freeway 😭
I remember racing a stage 2 golf GTI on my ancient GL1200 Goldwing once. I pulled hard on him till the next light, maybe 2 car lengths, where I stopped again. He even warned me at the stoplight "I'm stage 2 downpipe and watermeth." Dude was definitely traction limited, it sounded like he was front wheel drive.
He asked if the bike was stock afterwards, and that there's no way "a bike that looks like that" is "so fast"
Even a suuuper slow bike like my goldwing runs a sub 13 quarter, and a sub 4s 0-60 according to my dragy. People REALLY sleep on bikes.
Yeah, I've got a 1995 BMW R1100RT touring bike (owned from new) with a whole 90 HP. Sources differ on whether they're 3.9 or 4.0 for 0-60, but it's in that ballpark, and 12.7 for a 1/4 mile. And averages 40 mpg.
GTI´s are always FWD. R´s are AWD.
motorbike go vroom
zoom zoom zoom
Oh wait that's mazda
Speaking about Mazdas
*Where's the Miata*
A couple of years ago, a guy in a base model Corvette told me that he could outrun my Ducati Panigale V2. He was serious too! I just chuckled on the inside 😂 I didn't even waste my time racing him.
It probably belonged to his dad. 😂😂😂
I drive an old Suzuki RF900R, which when new, claimed 135 hp. Some guys infront of me intersections launch their cars thinking they can outpace an old bike. Havent met one yet that could, but then we also dont get the crazy tuner cars where I live. What I find most funny is that they feel like they're really going fast, but to a bike rider it's at best a brisk acceleration. Cheers, loved the video.
Most of us under estimate how quick and fast the sport bikes are, bikes after ecu unlock and some gear set changing, they can be as fast as most of the supercar, while having hypercar level acceleration.
All prevented them to be fast are just how dangerous they are when power just too much
B-but toy yoda soup bra
People keep forgetting that power and weight aren't the only contributing factors of racing. ESPECIALLY from a dig
As a former toddler I agree.
I'm a car/bike guy also... Currently ride a CBR1000RR and I rarely have to even shift out of 6th gear to pass 99% of cars on the road 😂
No shit, they aren’t trying to end up dead for a stupid race 😂
On the road, I was having some fun on my ninja 400 against a c8 corvette. 5000 dollar bike vs 100,000 car. He beat me in the straits, but on the bends, I caught right back up.
My Dad gave me one of his old bikes (my first bike) a few weeks ago, a 20 year old xt 600 yamaha with only 48 hp, and at first i was like, cmon Dad, really? That thing is about to be soo slow... Then after one round up and down the street i did a full throttle pull in second gear and let me tell you, i have never felt something like that in my life. And thats on a xt 600 with 48 hp... I actually got scared for a second, thats how quick it felt. I cannot imagine what a 1000cc can do. Hopefully one day.
Anyways, nice video man, keep it up!
attend a rider training program brov , them are fast, like the eye can catch up but the mind & body doesn't play ball in time and can miss a turn this is just 30-40% throttle (when I was riding) Kawi 1000SF (tourer segment I belive) its comfortable ...
Btw, we car guys don’t underestimate the bikes so much as we understand how to use the weaknesses against them. The top bikes and the top super cars are pretty much even 0-60, quarter mile times too. But in the twisties, the car gains it’s a
This is a guilty pleasure video for bike bros and I’m loving it.
Own a 2023 RSV4 with an SC Project GP-22 exhaust. Riding it is a religious experience for me and everyone in a mile radius of the bike.
You mention the exhaust like it cuts 3 seconds off your quarter mile 😂
Largely irrelevant really.
@@ducedevlstear2471 I mention the exhaust like it's a large part of the riding experience. Quite relevant, really. It's not all about numbers.
I'm a big car guy. Love cars. But I also love bikes. I own a 750 HP Cobra. And I know for a fact I'd get stomped by my 195 HP 07 GSXR 1000. That bike is equivalent to a 1200 HP Nissan GTR. I wish I was exaggerating. I twist the throttle just maybe a teeny bit and I go from 50 to 120+ in a blink of an eye. Extremely dangerous if you love speed because motorcycles are extremely unforgiving. If you tank slap at 150 mph on a motorcycle, lean on the tank and the front of your bike as much as possible, and keep control of your bike by giving it some throttle and say a prayer, because there are many times you can head straight to oncoming traffic to a TT, or to a guardrail where you'll be sliced into nothing.
If I fishtail my Cobra I can very easily control it and that's the same with any car because cars are extremely forgiving. Anyway I'm sure a bunch of people know this. I just wanted to share my experience with being on a fast car and a fast motorcycle.
I don’t have super cars try and race me on my Scout 60 but I do get a lot of cocky teenagers in there 300-400 horse cars try and I still pull. It’s hilarious.
Car guys when you mention horsepower per ton: Imma pretend I didn't see that
Why only a few street cars weigh less than a ton . and non of those are fun cars.
@@surfernorm6360 Cars used to be able to weight less than or slightly more than a ton. Then everyone for some reason decided they just couldn't be bothered anymore to try, bar a few exceptions
*pulls out safety card* "Oh but I'm gonna survive compared to you"
@@dudule04 So you'd rather live years as a worm than a day as a lion?
@@mattevans4377 "I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees"
EDIT: ah, I missed the opportunity to create the "So you have chosen... death" meme on the first comment.
Motorcycles are great! Until Karen decides to switch lanes without looking taking your life.
that is why u race on track, if u race on public roads like those crazy motovloggers like 650ib well yeah..
Don’t ride next to cars!
that's part of the fun tho
A good aware biker would've been prepared for that scenario.
Riding on the road isn't that scary if you just stay aware of your surroundings. It's the bikers that get comfortable/ complacent that make mistakes.
Is there a time of day to ride a motorcycle to avoid other cars? Is it worth waiting until then?
Mate had a race with a fellow coworker.
The bright pink 700hp Skyline never thought the 1400 Ninja would disappear... he copped it bad from all of us afterwards at work.
He never drove it to work again.
When considering the fastest drag vehicle, you want: (of course) low drag (so low area and a better streamlined shape), the whole bike basically fits within the area of the driver so that’s about as efficient as you get; low weight (F=ma); enough power so you aren’t spinning your tires (so a low-weight-low-power is preferred over high-weight-high-power, for the same power-weight); then as compact as possible, so just sit the driver on the engine and have it drive a single wheel, then everything else is optional…
Then you realize you’ve just conceptualized a bike! 🏍️
Such a shame that hoonigan is pro jumping starts. You can pretty much tell that the r8 owner didn't really give a shit after the Harley jumped the fuck out of the first start. That dude is a lot more respectable for actually sticking to the rules and keeping his calm when his competition is just blatantly jumping starts. Didn't even go to jump the start even after seeing the Harley zoom out ahead.
That aprilia v4 sounds nice.
"So, who's setting the pace?"
"Doesn't matter." - Yo, what a BOSS.
Not only do you not see many off-road Harleys it's even more rare to see one in a rhythm race.
A roll race is BEST case scenario for a bike. So many Car guys have NO CLUE what bikes are capable of.
I feel like most bike guys are usually car guys starting out and have just wised up to the fact that not only is riding way more fun, it takes way more nuts to go as fast as you would in your car
Ive been car guy all my life and never considered a motorcycle before, but have always admired and appreciated them. Once covid hit, i found myself in the endless content trap, and found all of the stuff about bikes. Bikes are absolutely superior in terms of acceleration, braking, and sometimes style (Dont come at me). However, cars seem to have a handling, and general comfort on their side. Also when you are 20 years old, Insurance is MASSIVELY different for the two options. Would I still want a crazy performance car? Absolutely no question. However, there s just something that makes bikes special, both in terms of speed and performance, but also just in style and culture. And on a bike you’d pretty much be able to walk anything else LOL!
You mention 310hp bikes. Then at 10:30 discuss cars with 1000hp+ cars that can’t hook up on street tires. I’ve seen a few 300hp bikes leave a black strip all the way down to road while being beat by a 200hp bike that was able to convert power to motion.
Spend enough time at the track, you’ll inevitably see that guy on an R3 with some rider education smoking guys on 600’s and liters who think they’re untouchable.
@@davidmcleod5133 24years now I have been operating motorbikes. I’ve never done a track day. Eventually I will do it. Ive always used my bikes as my sole vehicle and daily commuter. I’m too afraid of damaging it then not being able to get to work. And currently I have an EV. It’s great for commuting. Serene bliss. Fantastic. But I don’t think I could get to a track do a lap and get home :P
that suspension is the most impressive thing I've seen
When I was a kid, my Dad took me to the drag strip, and he raced his Gen 2 busa and It did a wheelie and hopped off the ground then he landed it and won the race (I think)
As someone who's built a 9 second AWD car and has god tier bikes (2023 Honda Fireblade SP with full exhaust, intake, velocity stacks, gearing, and tune & a similarly built Ducati Streetfigher V4 SP2) I feel like I can speak to this. Cars are so cool because it kind of a limitless platform and bikes are not as customizable in terms of power adders without really making them non streetable.
My Fireblade is world endingly fast. Seriously it will straight up teleport you to the afterlife, I haven't had any cars challenge me yet but I've been able to outrun every bike that's come for the smoke so far.
It’s crazy that Zach actually used to own motorcycles 😂
Smaller = lighter (most of the time)
It makes sense that the bike is so good when not worrying about wheelies
I don't even understand why we need to have this conversation. Both, both is good and it's like comparing apples to pears. They're not the same and you buy them for different reasons.
Considering this is US, I won't be surprise there's still car culture "superiority" out there. Both internally inside those community or externally among other community
Espescially when it confirmed by bladed himself
I’m on the same boat as you are man
Agreed. Too many fools in both scenes.
But, unfortunately, if you want to put all of Tate's fleet to shame for cheaper, you gotta have a deathwish and buy a superbike.
Finally, more motorcycle content!
And yeah, motorcycles are stupidly fast. I have a '12 Triumph Street Triple R, and I recently drag raced it and it ran 12.0 @ 114 in the 1/4 mile, with noob drag racing skills and a headwind. If this doesn't sound fast, think of it this way: A $5k 675cc 3-cylinder middleweight naked bike easily outruns a $50k Mustang GT350 in the quarter mile. And we bikers can wheelie :)
Literally so early there are 4 bots that are less than day old saying "how do plan on growing your content?" And "you content always brings a smile to my face!!" And another asking "how do you decide what content is best for your audience?" UA-cam needs to get on tha bot stuff, and the majority of time its pretty easy to tell a bot from a human because they almost always have a stereotypical hot woman showing their butt or wearing something that shows a lot of cleavage and its kinda getting annoying that youtube wont do anything about it. But they will stop an account from making money because we cant pay a creator for their success!! Whereas bots can just stay on the dang website and we can push ads at every possible oppurtunity, then ruin the search function and make it to where the only content people watch is shorts because we push it on EVERYONE.
Edit: sorry for ranting at the end, but that's basically what has happened to UA-cam. It gets annoying fast when a previously good website decides to destroy themselves every five seconds.
Unfortunately, I have to manually remove them or wait for a Moderator to do so. They bypass all the filters I set, or the built-in UA-cam Comment Bot Detection. Large Channels have it even worse where they get REALLY DISGUSTING comments.
@@BladedAngel I'm so sorry that bots are this bad. It just sucks because all they do is show that UA-cam isn't a website to be taken seriously because it can't even afford to keep spam bots off the platform.
I do love your content Bladed, it's awesome and you have a lot of fun videos.
(I am aware that bot fighting is an unwinnable battle, but that doesn't change the fact that patterns are easy to pick up on and that a specific pattern of words could easily be coded to be banned.)
@@badatsomerhing UA-cam can afford that. But they don't want to.
I agree 100% what makes it even worse is the bits will say some completely inappropriate but never get banned.
Sorry but I really resent that you want youtube to censor content that is anything but hardcore pornography. OR racist or Misoginist or provable lies. UA-cam is Based in the US and we have freedom of the press at last report. I want it to stay that way.
I had a zzr600, - z x 6r, 100 hp, 175kg, 0 - 100km/h 10.9s, Had a mate with a Ducati st2 955, who laughed at me, another mate with a worked Impreza, who thought his car could beat any bike, after 3 attempts, I witnessed 2 grown men with tears in their eyes. Oh how I miss that bike. Didn’t corner to well, wooden brakes, but damn, that acceleration, from 600cc’s, awesome!
There's one in ovieda (sp?) FL right now with 4000 mi. For 1900.00
Old guy owns it.
I street drag so it's kinda small for my needs but man is it good looking, and what a deal.
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The best part about bikes is that you don’t need a lot of horsepower to have fun. The 50cc yamaha scooter I had was one of the most fun bikes in the city😆
Funniest part is in a motorcycle sometimes the most heaviest part of the bike IS THE RIDERS THEMSELVES. A motorcycle is not pushing much weight and it's engine is the one that happens to be the heaviest part, so yeah a bike crossing 100 mark is same as a car crossing a 800 mark
People are not that heavy usually and/or bikes are not that light, but yeah
@@mishamykhaylov9455 Im a skinny guy and im still 37% of the weight of my bike. You absolutely have to factor in rider weight when calculating a bikes P/W ratio.
Good video! I live in Australia where lane filtering is allowed and bikes get to the front at every traffic light. A 125 cc scooter will beat almost every car to the speed limit. The scooter will get all its power to the back wheel and there are no gears to change. Not bad while getting over 80 miles to the gallon.
0:43 exceptions… MotoGP … see car wow with Pedrosa vids.
Yea dude is a complete stud of a rider. Pedrosa was putting busses on that F1 car which is mind boggling.
Finally some love for Bike lovers. Love and respect to all of those who rides and love bike.
If batman had a hayabusa
That would be cool
Weight /power ratio, less friction on the road, less air drag and downforce do the job and make motorcycles much more efficient in drag race. But if it's about cornering they loos because of their advantages in acceleration. That's it
cant believe you completely forgot the ninja H2 that comes with a supercharged 1 liter engine making 228 horsepower stock, but forget that cause with a retune and a few internals you could easily match the H2Rs stock power of THREE HUNDRED FUCKING TWENTY SIX HORSEPOWER out of 1, yes, ONE liter.
no i would never ride one, but i would love to get one so i could build my own single seater open wheel car using that gods graces 14,000 rpm redline
i stand corrected, i paused the video literally 3 seconds before you poped the H2 on screen, i will not be removing this comment so i can be clowned on like i deserve to be
that thing at 300hp can barely keep the front wheel down, in all of the videos you see, that bike wheelies at 150 mph, has waaaay too much power for the weight.
@@fs5866 i know! thats why its awesome and would be perfect for a bike engine open wheel race car project! but i would make it street legal cause that's pretty easy to do here in Arizona, and it would make one hell of a ride to work
What's always funny is seeing people think the H2 or H2R is a fast bike. It is like a lambo compared to a built car lol
@Jorby444 I don't know if you were paying attention, but 320+ horsepower on a 525 pound bike is absurd, sure you can spend $90,000 on mods to give your average $15,000 street bike more power, or you could buy it for half that and not risk separating your torso from your hips when the block grenades itself. A better comparison would be a Mercedes AMG GT4 vs a spec Miata
For me the joy of motorcycling is taking corners at max lean angle. That's an experience no car can deliver. And no carver-type thingies do not even come close.
car guys seriously underestimate how quick bikes are in a roll race.
bike guys seriously overestimate how quick bikes are in the bends.
Having a couple Harley’s, I can tell you that the Torque is what sets it apart on a launch. My 2020 Lowrider makes about 130 torque and the mods and tuning required are minimal. Stage 2 gets you a lot. I gapped a gallardo spyder with a stock Harley from a dig. I didn’t believe it at first. He wouldn’t believe me when I said it was stock.
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Honestly great content! Love that you keep saying you're not trying to freeboot. Keep it up!
Most young sport bike guys are just car guys who can’t afford a cool car yet (Source: Myself)
agree, enthusiast car price in my country are so fuck up, we couldn't even buy the base model
Real, car is basically expensive hobbies in 3rd world country especially South East Asia, that's why we build crazy fast mopeds or 250 beginner bike to learn how mechanical stuff works
pretty much. I bought a r6 to gap friends in my school 😂😂
Yes and no, I’ve never really seen the point in bothering upgrading a car for it to still not even be fair competition entry level sport bike 😂 cars are cool in their own way but if ur getting into the scene for the sole purpose of being faster than most people on the road then it ain’t the move
Completely different if you’re building the car out of genuine passion for it to look cool, sound cool and just be a nice build.
I can't say so myself I was a car guy until I got my first pit bike fell in love with pit bikes I got my first car at 16 couple months ago I just can't do it I love bikes I don't really like cars if I'm being honest maybe it's just cuz my car is slow but even when I try to take it to a canyon it's just not the same as a bike I prefer bikes now and I don't think I will change my mind
I'm not a car person, my dream car is a nissan gtr but what I wanted to say is I'm subbing to this channel because he explained everything greatly
The fast cars tend to be quicker off the line and at very high speeds where the wind is slowing the motorcycle. Midrange speeds (40-100) the motorcycles tend to win.
So you never owned fast bikes right ? Mid range speed for something like a GSXR1000 is 80 to 130 is MPH, with traction control, most cars are not quicker off the line either. There's a lot of big bikes that'll do close to 180MPH, not many cars will do that, and they'll take more time getting there.... You do realise that most superbike style bikes are far more streamlined than most cars ? The wind only has a bigger effect if it's side winds
@@MickH60 don't have a motorcycle licence 😂
And you're probably right. The supercar inching forward over the superbike usually happens at more like 200 mph not 100.
that midrange speed is more like 40-160ish.
my r1 gaps the hell out of anything until it gets close to top speed (little over 185 gps)
@@MickH60 Traction control doesn't do diddly for making you launch quicker , just adds a safety net for mistakes. dude does have a point though since he specifically mentioned fast cars :P . if you hang around a dragstrip long enough you'll see in general quicker cars will launch harder but not have the MPH a bike does. for instance some 10 second cars will 60ft like an 8 second bike which is funny to see. on the other side of the spectrum bikes generally have a worse drag coefficient than cars but this matters generally too late to really matter.
I just worked out my bike's p/w ratio!
230kg ZZR1400.
Lightly tuned (Akro 4-1 zorst, air filter, ECU remap, standard gearing) 196bhp *at the wheel.*
= 852bhp/tonne.
Runs a 9.2 QM @ over 150mph and tops at ONLY 205mph+.
It's pretty quick!
And only cost £5k
Motorcycle somehow. Even have less horsepower, but depending how brave enough the rider was. is it that right?
I'm a bike and car enthusiast, and i LOVE bikes. Like really. Prolly more than cars. But i still know alot about cars!
I love the Hayabusa (just 190 hp!). And it is just CRAZY how fast bikes can go with just 100 horsepower or so. Thats literally 1500cc.. Considering the weight, it does help alot! Literally slapping just 100hp could literally make it a supercar killer.
14 years ago, Brock Davidson's BMW S1000RR ran an 8.49 at 158 and change, with a completely stock engine and no power adders, through the muffler, on a street tire, with no wheelie bar and no air shifter.
Motorcycle: 15.000$, 300km/h+
Car: 100.000$+, 300km/h
Motorcycle: More adrenaline
Car: No adrenaline
Motorcycle: You give a girl a ride, she hugs you, instant connection
Car: Girl will look more out the window than to your face
Car: Congratulations, you crashed. Your legs are broken, you got glass all over your eyes, the airbag knocked the s*** out of you, you got a huge fine and license suspended for speeding, got no car.
Motorcycle: Congratulations, you crashed. You're now sitting in heaven having the time of your life laughing at the car bro.
Motorcycle: Spend less on gas, less on maintenance, less on tires.
Car: Your car drinks more than a 55 year old fishing boat captain and you're forever awake at night in fear of the michelin man below your bed (the mechanic told him your adress).
Motorcycle: Small garage, no biggie. Too much dust and pests? Cheap covers got you covered.
Car: Small garage? Well get f*****, you'll have to park on the street while you cry watching some random chick twerk on your cars hood for a tiktok. The dude that takes a picture leaning over your 300$ monthly detail polish with his 4$ 5 year old sweater covered in doritos dust will come after her, for sure.
the crashes doesn't work that way usually 😂 u will probably lose some limbs or get paralyzed after a motorcycle crash
This also goes in the other direction too, where bike guys think they’re the fastest thing on the road because of acceleration. I live in NZ where there are tonnes of sketchy tight mountain and b roads, and sports cars rule the roost there. Super cars can’t put the power down and often ride too rough, and bikes still kinda corner like shit compared to a well set up car
At the end of the day, they’re all awesome machines and even if it’s not your jam, you should still appreciate it
500hp Car: hell yeah! now we're talking!
500hp Turbo Busa: as I walk through the valley of the shadow of death...
I’m watching this as a car guy. I’ll be honest and forward about it, I don’t know shit about motorcycles but I’d like to learn more.
now, bring in some tight corners and some proper sports cars. Rinding bikes and owning some sports cars myself, it's crazy how much slower bikes - even super bikes - are on the twisty roads up in the alps. It's quite painful being behind a bike with a capable car, as after every corners bikes just flies on the straight, not letting you overtake. But then before the next corner you can see how bad bikes are in stopping power and basically how slowly they move around the corner
Exactly lol, all they think about is a straight line, that's not much of a race. Some light 240hp awd car is enough to keep up with some decent bikes in tight corners
when you're playing at that level, it's not what's under the hood that makes the difference, it's what's on top of the throttle.
Some months ago i was minding my own business while riding my zx6r. A seat Leon (turboed, probably a 20vt) came next to me, revving and bangs and pops from the exhaust. Just turned my wrist and keep speeding. He couldn't keep up with me, although my bike is a humble, stock 636cc. Couldn't imagine what would happen if i was riding a zx10r 😂. Thats why i love bikes, especially old school. With 2-3k you can get a 180hp liter bike and smoke whatever is lurking around.
Love it lol. "STOCK , I MEAN STOCK LOL." That was freaking Hilarious.
This is why I like motorcycles better now. Less expensive and more fun while being faster.
Anything with wheels is fun. I’ve got a Husky 701, Yamaha MT-10, and a ‘15 C7. Sure the MT-10 can easily dust the C7, but they are both fun in their own way, and a blast at the track.
i could definitely watch more of these videos of you breaking down the Hoonigan races
I'm car enthusiast but a motorcycle lover. Nothing on earth is like a superbike. I will never be without one.
I remember when I rode a ZX10-R, the new model. Accelerating that thing felt like jumping to hyperspace in the Millennium Falcon, it's absurd.
Well done on the explanation about needing better tire grip along with the horsepower 👍 especially when power hits a certain street tire grip max hold to power ratio 🧐
I drive a 50cc scooter as a daily due to it being super cheap to run/fix. But it never ceases to amuse me how often people are surprised by how quickly I can get around town compared to them, despite their cars being magnitudes faster. Their reactions are priceless
😂 quit playing jokester. That pos ain't going anywhere compared to a 1000cc. Topping out at 25 ain't fast bub. 😂 your a joke to the riding community.
what i like more about bikes is.. you can have so much fun even going slow. doing turns, even parking, going down of an entrance. everything, the only downside are highways, there is boring and you get exahuster after some hours. but in the other side, routes are the best, enjoy the route, forest and mountains its the best.