The Stories Of Producers Who STOLE Beats (Explained)

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  • @DJPain1
    @DJPain1 Рік тому +60

    These industry dudes steal beats in plain site, no remaking, no reworking, and if you spend the money on going after them, likely youll eventually settle for less than you’re owed.

    • @bigkeezo
      @bigkeezo Рік тому +2

      And they know that you’ll settle from the get go 🙁

    • @WJWalker44
      @WJWalker44 Рік тому +1

      DJ Pain what up

    • @flyshitonly24
      @flyshitonly24 8 місяців тому

      The beat you did for Last Supper on The Game Jesus Piece album is classic

  • @PBen1
    @PBen1 Рік тому +75

    There was a similar kind of disagreement with who produced the Eric B. & Rakim records in the 80s (which had very influential production on them)... they're credited as produced by Eric B. & Rakim, but in a lot of cases Rakim and Eric took the records they wanted to use to Marley Marl and Marley did a lot of the sampling/programming.
    So it becomes a case of whether the producer is the person who had the idea of what to put together, or the person who physically put the elements together.

    • @NavieD
      @NavieD  Рік тому +20

      Yeah that problem exists a lot, especially when it comes to 'ghost producing'

    • @teigeo
      @teigeo Рік тому +11

      In my opinion everyone involved deserves some kind of credit (unless they don’t want it for some reason)

    • @Mar.Escobar24
      @Mar.Escobar24 Рік тому +7

      And Marley is also known to have taken sole credit for beats he didn’t even do. I don’t remember specific songs but I do know Ced Gee and Large Professor being part of some songs they didn’t get credit for.

    • @hip-hop4life827
      @hip-hop4life827 Рік тому +9

      @@Mar.Escobar24 Ced Gee produced 50% of Criminal Minded (The Bridge Is Over was one of them) and indeed Large Professor produced a lot of stuff for Eric B & Rakim but also Kool G Rap & Polo.

    • @biglee2423
      @biglee2423 Рік тому +4

      Large Professor did many including “In the Ghetto”.. Rakim was a producer too.

  • @verbone
    @verbone Рік тому +35

    It's hard to tell, but I lean towards theft. I'm relatively no one in the game, but I've had two songs stolen outright. One song became a local hit and anchored an album. Anyone who makes beats long enough will get jacked.

    • @oscaroscar7904
      @oscaroscar7904 Рік тому

      Same has happened once with me but that was only the melody of a folk song, but its not fun when you put them out for free to help people relax or chill, but it has only happened once with me though, but its not fun if someone makes money out of something i made for free and out of caring, i though the was a law for this i think as long as you have your song you can prove it ( in thoery) but how it really works in the practical side of thing i dont know

    • @verbone
      @verbone Рік тому +6

      @@oscaroscar7904 In my case, it wasn't a sample-based beat, it was something completely original I played. I did have the original still, but let's just say there would've been a lot of politics involved if I had pursued it. Gotta know when to hold 'em and fold 'em.

    • @oscaroscar7904
      @oscaroscar7904 Рік тому +4

      @@verbone yeah thats true and I try to see it as a sort of compliment if someone used part of my melody for something lol, but I just think it happens alot more then people are aware ( on youtube or other more obscure music.), and I am not against sampling though of course, and when its done right it can make a song into something else, like making a sad ballad song into a beat and transforming that into a major or energetic happy song is really cool.

  • @seltzersoda
    @seltzersoda Рік тому +40

    your videos always butter me up and tuck me into bed navie i appreciate that

    • @NavieD
      @NavieD  Рік тому +18

      But I release these in the morning. Wake up!

    • @tarrenceprice9458
      @tarrenceprice9458 10 місяців тому

      @@NavieD😂😂😂

  • @daqueenjo2549
    @daqueenjo2549 Рік тому +14

    I’m more of an Afro/deep house/bounce producer but damn you really have some of the best content out here! I appreciate you greatly.

  • @OMDAT
    @OMDAT Рік тому +5

    Love the variety in your videos man, good stuff

  • @k1t362
    @k1t362 7 місяців тому +1

    Jesusss you are talented man been looking for this type of content for years

  • @markbruggeman274
    @markbruggeman274 Рік тому +42

    I still find it quite amazing how they put together 'Do For Love' with that Bobby Caldwell hook. Must have had a great ear when he heard Dilla beat matching that

    • @bp2000k
      @bp2000k Рік тому +8

      When i first heard that , i thought it was produced by dilla bcs it sound like a jay dee production. Then i see this and it all makes sense.

    • @BhramaBull
      @BhramaBull Рік тому

      Stole fw outta Dilla beat

    • @Andre.Malik11
      @Andre.Malik11 Рік тому +1

      maybe my ears are deceiving me, but I just figured in "Do For Love" someone just played the horn melody on bass (syth or real) and adjusted the speed/pitch/etc. So, whether he chopped his sounds to create the bass sound for the melody, isn't it still a sample/interpolation of Caldwell's horn melody?

    • @markbruggeman274
      @markbruggeman274 Рік тому +1

      @@Andre.Malik11 i think the Horn chop is not from Bobby Caldwell but from a different song which Dilla sampled

  • @Old_Man_Medina_Gaming
    @Old_Man_Medina_Gaming 9 місяців тому +3

    My teenage son produces some good beats and was approached by a low tier rapper on Fiver. My son just gave him one trying to get “exposure” and the credit on Tidal lists the artist as the composer and producer. I really would have liked to see his name, I was really proud of how good the song came out. This may be a Hanlon’s Razor moment, indeed.

  • @donshaq
    @donshaq Рік тому +4

    Your breakdown and analysis is just unparalleled

  • @djsunnysideup23
    @djsunnysideup23 Рік тому +7

    love this!! Something we all have to know coming into this game. Thanks again Navie D! keep loving yourself. peace and love from Japan

  • @hockeytalk6084
    @hockeytalk6084 Рік тому +100

    The thing about Aphex Twin getting his song sampled on a Kanye record then being told by his camp “It’s not yours, it’s OURS. And we aren’t asking.” Sent (angry) shivers down my spine. Welcome to the industry lol.

    • @raimondnu3
      @raimondnu3 Рік тому +7

      Do you think it might of been possible that Aphex Twin didnt copyright his version, and got it sampled with full ownership from Kanye Camp? Crazier things have been done in this industry.

    • @LaidBackApophis
      @LaidBackApophis Рік тому +39

      Except Aphex Twin had been in the industry for decades before Kanye was even a household name.

    • @DjStinger
      @DjStinger Рік тому +2

      ​@@LaidBackApophiswurd hahaha exactly 😅

    • @Krimewave186
      @Krimewave186 Рік тому +9

      @@raimondnu3 if it's released, it's published. If it's published, it's copyrighted.

    • @HorribleHomeVideo
      @HorribleHomeVideo Рік тому

      that does not apply @@LaidBackApophis

  • @pman8478
    @pman8478 Рік тому +4

    This is such a fun video. It was channels like you and diggin the greats that really made me actually start subscribing to music channels on here outside of just guitar teachers and its these vids with more music history and beat break downs together that really hook me

  • @spliffsoldier
    @spliffsoldier Рік тому +13

    BABE WAKE UP NAVIE POSTED ANOTHER VIDEO

    • @NavieD
      @NavieD  Рік тому +7

      Let that woman sleep

  • @red0ctane19
    @red0ctane19 Рік тому +3

    Great video my friend! I always find these types of videos super interesting, as well as very educational.

  • @AKSourGod
    @AKSourGod Рік тому +42

    It must take you hours upon hours to get these recreations made in your DAW, and then make a whole dope ass interesting video about it! Great work per usual Navie!

    • @elijahworden219
      @elijahworden219 Рік тому +3

      With today tool maybe not hours. With the old technology probably

    • @threezysworld8089
      @threezysworld8089 Рік тому +2

      Does take hours although by now I'm sure he has some good refined processes.

    • @gangdigitals
      @gangdigitals Рік тому

      Wow impressed bro witb your content earned a follower

    • @Reggieeeeeeee322
      @Reggieeeeeeee322 11 місяців тому

      an hour tops. I can make most of these in 30 mins or so.

  • @austinl5158
    @austinl5158 Рік тому +4

    More videos like this please, along with your normal tips and tricks videos. This was really interesting.

  • @StreetfighterU
    @StreetfighterU Рік тому +24

    There were rumours back in the day that Timbaland would hire ghost producers and make them work in a studio and just take the best samples for himself. He also claimed that he invented dubstep lol. Let’s not forget that infamous case where he quite literally stole a sample and claimed he made it himself, without giving credit.

    • @badboy69cancer
      @badboy69cancer Рік тому +5

      Yea, those aren't rumors at all. Lol.

    • @Elias304
      @Elias304 Рік тому +9

      Timbaland spoke about that if i remember correctly, where he let Danja Hands produce under his name so he could get him more money for the beats

    • @Crypto_prod35
      @Crypto_prod35 Рік тому

      Yeah bro art and music has nothing but thieves in there

    • @OlliWitta3_
      @OlliWitta3_ Рік тому

      Timbo co produced " No More Pain" by 2pac from All Eyez On Me album , but went uncredited by Devante

    • @bootcheese
      @bootcheese Рік тому

      Next to Swizz Beatz, Timbaland is a Charlatan of the HIGHEST Order. Fuckin' can't stand his Music, and I don't care how many European Beatmakers have been influenced by his Music.

  • @heavenly2k
    @heavenly2k Рік тому

    Your knack for recreation is genuinely impressive.

  • @duc3r_prod
    @duc3r_prod Рік тому +13

    I ve made recently a beattape, and something that I've found quite unique, the question is that a fellow producer came across me, who was with me one of these days while I worked on the tape telling " owh I've used one of the samples you got there, I hope u don't mind, check my beat, see here" ofter I've checked we both laught at the differences, with two completely different approaches. Long story short, no problem in using, in fact, the same sample, the thing is how you do it maintaining your identity on it. I've made a Celtic druid tape and put that there, it's great, and the dude made a freestyle like beat that's dope as f***, he didn't quite stole, he made it to be way different than mine, even so I didn't feel malice, it was a good studio day that day 😁

  • @dejuanballard3367
    @dejuanballard3367 Рік тому +2

    When it comes to music, its not about who did it first, its about who did it best. Respect will always be paid to the originators and pioneers by the people making the music, but the masses will remeber the best version of something. Be the best.

  • @MvnStn
    @MvnStn Рік тому +11

    I love learning, and you are great at teaching. Nuff said.
    Cheers!

  • @original_shmirko_account
    @original_shmirko_account Рік тому +20

    The beat for the second track on JPEGMafia's Veteran album was first credited to Peggy but was actually produced by someone else

    • @baL88537
      @baL88537 Рік тому

      They all losers 🤣

    • @NavieD
      @NavieD  Рік тому +5

      Ahh yeah, the Chef Warren thing. Was he accused of stealing or was it people assuming Peggy produced it?

    • @Vincent-dw2mg
      @Vincent-dw2mg Рік тому +4

      @@NavieDnah he stole it, no permission no credit

    • @original_shmirko_account
      @original_shmirko_account Рік тому +1

      @@NavieD I'm not fully sure actually, could very well be the latter. But i remember Peggy getting very defensive abt the whole thing😂

    • @gabehere
      @gabehere Рік тому

      He definitely stole it, guy made zero money off that shit and has a full beat breakdown in his channel.@@NavieD

  • @Mon-gm7rk
    @Mon-gm7rk 10 місяців тому +1

    something I love about Jamaican djs and old 80s dancehall is that is very common to hear the same beats and samples
    but this is looked upon the crowd, they look for djs who can add their own thing to the classical beats.

    • @ogaccount9809
      @ogaccount9809 10 місяців тому

      Same with early Memphis rap

  • @VeazyX
    @VeazyX Рік тому +1

    benzema teachin me bout sum music history
    nice content brother, kudos

  • @Reggi_Sample
    @Reggi_Sample Рік тому +1

    + Tags can be removed with an easy stem separation vocal remover app
    It’s not safe out there this video needs a part 2 about beat theft in the digital age

  • @HunterGibson6969
    @HunterGibson6969 Рік тому +4

    4:30 this happens alot on the vocal side of things too but its more accepted and seen as paying dues. From the weekend working on drakes take care album in the shadows before it was his turn all the way back to future working on blue berry yum yum for ludacris while he slept on the couch in the dungeon

    • @NavieD
      @NavieD  Рік тому +1

      Whoa, I did not know about the Future and Blueberry Yum Yum part. That is crazy

    • @HunterGibson6969
      @HunterGibson6969 Рік тому

      @@NavieD yep theres probably many more cases like this we just werent ever told about

  • @se9355
    @se9355 10 місяців тому +1

    One of the things I’m learning from all of these videos is almost every beat is using some sort of sample

  • @DrBigFMC
    @DrBigFMC Рік тому +4

    8:41 'Pitch speed changes to avoid police detection' 😂😂

    • @NavieD
      @NavieD  Рік тому +2

      I had to upload this video 8 times just to avoid it

    • @hazybeatz1327
      @hazybeatz1327 Рік тому +1

      Yo what's up. Kool to see you here

    • @DrBigFMC
      @DrBigFMC Рік тому

      @hazybeatz1327 Yo! This international beatmaker / producer community is actually a small world! Hope you're good.

  • @DRITTOofficial
    @DRITTOofficial Рік тому +3

    I just got stolen from recently sending a demo to a "friend" who's on the top 100 DJ;s in the world list. A few months later the song comes out on a major label with the same exact name and structure with just a few sounds changed. I dont think there's any way I can get credit for this since I sent it to them as a demo but be careful music industry is shady as F*ck

    • @tenslider6722
      @tenslider6722 Рік тому +3

      you can sue if you have receipts and time stamps from recording sessions.

    • @DRITTOofficial
      @DRITTOofficial Рік тому

      @@tenslider6722 I do have both. The hardest part is probably the legal fees which could easily go into the thousands. So im a little handcuffed cause I cant afford that but do have all the proof.

    • @Sp_aceagerecords
      @Sp_aceagerecords 9 місяців тому

      Definitely sue my man. Reach out to a lawyer and get what’s owed to you. If you do everything right they will take down your stolen work and send them a cease and desist order

  • @linkthastink
    @linkthastink Рік тому +5

    diddy sneaking into Pete rocks studio is hilarious

  • @anthonywalker4211
    @anthonywalker4211 Рік тому +4

    The labels definitely mess things up at times, like what Rawkus did with the Godzilla sample in "Simon Says." If the labels/managers do everything in their power to screw artists out of money, why wouldn't they at least to get away with doing the same to producers and sample clearances?

  • @JaybLive95
    @JaybLive95 Рік тому +3

    I watched a interview with the producer Soulshock from Souldshock & Karlin who did Do For Love. I think Soulshock mostly did drums and samples and Karlin played keys. He talked about when he did that song how he was a huge fan of Dilla and Tribe. I think he def sampled the drums and that guitar chop (or recreated it) but to me its more like uncredited sampling than just jacking a beat. He did mention though how Karlin came up with the bassline on the keyboard. They also did Me Against The World. It was a cool interview.

    • @dianevrules
      @dianevrules Рік тому +1

      BS. They chopped up Dilla's s7&&^!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @JaybLive95
      @JaybLive95 Рік тому +1

      @@dianevrules I said that. I said I think he sampled the drums and the little guitar thing but that's different than just jackin somebody's beat. The beat itself completely different.

  • @Eddierath
    @Eddierath Рік тому

    That due for love intro is MAGICAL takes me back.

  • @bootcheese
    @bootcheese Рік тому +1

    You forgot to mention Dr. Dre.
    Hutch, from Above The Law, was working on a Beat in his House, and Dre was there, listening and watching the process (Hutch was working on a funky Synth Bassline). A few Years later, that Bassline was featured on "Dre Day". In case you didn't know, Hutch was the Son of Willie Hutch, the man who composed the Soundtrack to the '70s Blaxploitation Classic, "The Mack", starring Max Julien and Dick Anthony Williams as "Pretty Tony".

  • @jrobbin24
    @jrobbin24 Рік тому +8

    I really like these type of videos. Keep them coming.

  • @HunterGibson6969
    @HunterGibson6969 Рік тому +4

    Puffy also flipped the same Oliver Sain sample DITC used on "day one" just a few months after they did, he used it exactly the same tho haha

    • @NavieD
      @NavieD  Рік тому

      Would you say that is theft in this case?

    • @HunterGibson6969
      @HunterGibson6969 Рік тому

      @@NavieD Showbiz certiantly thinks so i was able to find the article i read about it one day ill try and copy and paste it here but it may be autobanned if i dont censor it a bit

    • @HunterGibson6969
      @HunterGibson6969 Рік тому +1

      @@NavieD
      "Show: Puffy took that sample [from Big L’s “M.V.P.”] on purpose. Let’s keep it 100. That’s my opinion. Finesse was one of Puffy’s Hitmen producers. They had a falling out and Finesse went his own way. L is down with D.I.T.C. and Puffy got Biggie and wanted to show it up, like “I can do it better.” If you listen to our song “Day One,” Puffy rhymed that too [on Puff Daddy and the Family’s “Young G’s”]. Puffy is cool, I got respect for him, but he’s competitive like that. It ain’t like that was a coincidence. Puff and Big came out with that record that Big L had. The rules back then were that you don’t use something that somebody else just used. So for him to say “Fthat, I’m going to use it anyway,” shows he was like “I’m going to show theseNs up!” This ain’t on anybody else, this is coming from my mouth. I don’t give a, I’m 100 with it. It is what it is."

    • @HunterGibson6969
      @HunterGibson6969 Рік тому

      @@NavieD in my opinion it was disrespect but not theft as both beats were just loops, not creatively chopped up or that would have been beyond any benefit of a doubt

  • @steelokey
    @steelokey Рік тому

    Ok we need a more in depth look at this if there is anymore info on all these + many more

  • @slls4927
    @slls4927 Рік тому +4

    The Eddie Kendricks sample was used in 1995 by a French rap crew called Iam in the song called "bad boys de Marseille " , they featured Redman in 1997 in their single (la saga) so I guess Kanye heard about them and probably liked Keops sampling and producing method..... just a guess

    • @inigo9000
      @inigo9000 Рік тому +2

      I would wish it was true because Meteque et mat is one of my favourite albums but Eddie kendricks is known to everybody that’s in to soul/R&B music. And there was the song Victem of the Ghetto from college boys that allready used the sample, there’s a big change Iam took inspiration from it because the hook has a little bit similar feeling to it

    • @1010001011
      @1010001011 Рік тому +1

      it's Sunz Of Man who features on the IAM song la saga

    • @slls4927
      @slls4927 Рік тому

      @@1010001011 it was the single Noble art that featured Redman and method man my mistake

  • @bp2000k
    @bp2000k Рік тому +3

    That production from „Do For Love“ is crazy tho🔥🔥🔥

    • @jzajzz
      @jzajzz Рік тому

      That's just sampling

  • @laurenmcmillian827
    @laurenmcmillian827 Рік тому +4

    It’s just like being the Avatar, you have to know all the masters as far as, Dilla, Pete Rock, Slumgulion, 9th Wonder, etc. I use their templates as a foundation for navigating through any sample I hear. I understand it’s like learning different styles of Kung-Fu. Once you’ve learned how to use the techniques, you can come up with some really ill creations. The key to unlock the door is your imagination. The same process is for juggling records too (vinyl) how to breakdown time signatures in the in the song already provided for you.

  • @Mcperk
    @Mcperk Рік тому

    Down and Out was Dope! I didn't know this information.

  • @DonClassico
    @DonClassico Рік тому +1

    Moving forward to 2023, spotify doesn't show credits to producer or beatmakers. I was shocked seeing this on my productions while I spent some time filling in all the right informations on my distribution page, making sure everything is there before submitting to digital release

  • @Sonic_emperor
    @Sonic_emperor Рік тому +2

    A more recent example I can think of is Bryson Tiller's "Exchange " and J.Cole's "Deja Vu" and the dispute surrounding the beats of those two songs. Yet the samples, while being the same were used VERY differently

    • @marknielsbeats
      @marknielsbeats Рік тому +3

      And the Dre / Ericka Badu situation, With Xplosive and avg lady

    • @GDOLLAS757
      @GDOLLAS757 11 місяців тому

      Those were just samples

  • @imerriweather1
    @imerriweather1 Рік тому +4

    I love the quote. I recently had a situation where I thought a producer stole from me on a Tony Yayo song. I reached out to the producer and Tony Yayo, neither got back to me (Surprise!) but in the end, I chalked it up to we both took an easy route in chopping same sample. maybe that's naïve of me. but i'd rather chalk it up than stay enraged. that being said it also taught me that maybe my stuff was a little better than i thought, but I still need to work on my drums and get my legal stuff together before continuing to put music on Soundcloud. Anyways, I loved the video...I think Puff definitely stole. Only because he's done so much shady stuff. And thanks for the quote. I'm going to print it out and give you a sub credit. LOL

  • @nofamilyfights213
    @nofamilyfights213 Рік тому +2

    That sample that supposedly nobody can find is don’t say goodnight (it’s time for love) by The Isley Brothers

  • @Jeweldroppin
    @Jeweldroppin 10 місяців тому +1

    Kanye said he didn’t produce the record in an interview he cleared that up

  • @meyerdamagician
    @meyerdamagician Рік тому

    amazing video as always davie n! keep it up bro, fr best beatmaking content ever.

  • @keepingminds3139
    @keepingminds3139 Рік тому +1

    Picture a bunch of rap producers complaining about somebody stole their beat and their sound when the majority of the beat's sound was jacked from a sample of some other producer's instrumental, crybaby crap at it's best, absolutely ridiculous.....

  • @emmanuelkotei649
    @emmanuelkotei649 Рік тому

    Dude I love your videos, you are a true hip hop head

  • @soren_prod
    @soren_prod Рік тому +2

    The original Juicy was beat was stolen from a underground Louisiana rap tape. The song was even called something similar and the rappers name was the notorious. Literally the same exact beat. If I can find it again I’ll send a link

    • @fastidious7695
      @fastidious7695 Рік тому +1

      The Notorious B1 is his name. The song is on youtube you can search it. I even heard that Diddy changed Biggy Smallz name to Notorious Big taking B1’s name too. He probably brought his demo to diddy for a chance to be signed a got robbed 🤷🏾‍♂️

    • @soren_prod
      @soren_prod Рік тому +1

      @@fastidious7695 thanks for giving me the info, I haven’t been able to find it since

  • @ivankrecker9210
    @ivankrecker9210 Рік тому +2

    Interesting. Man make a video on what makes a melody/sample chops dark and underground. how to flip sample to the dark side

  • @MusicalPaintCanvas
    @MusicalPaintCanvas Рік тому +4

    Real like/appreciate your content. I’m new to this space. I had a question for you, in todays environment is there a process producers need to do before uploading there beats to (let’s say distrokid) in order to minimise theft? Have you made content on this subject? Thanks

  • @DDaniels3000
    @DDaniels3000 Рік тому

    Impressive video ..u get a sun just on the work to put this video together.. clean , precise and most importantly informative!!! Love it

  • @glendwellz
    @glendwellz Рік тому +6

    In Norway there’s been two crazy low down dirty producers. I know a group that had to pull everything they released for two-three years cos a producer/beat maker took credit for ALL the beats on their albums, when he just simply stole everything from other producers. He recorded and totally jacked beats from other producers. It all came to light when one of the producers who actually made the beat threatened to sue them. And they started testing their “producer” by asking him to changed some minor things to the beat, and they asked to get stems and he couldn’t provide. And we have another dude doing the exact same thing to day. I actually think it’s the same guy😂 and he’s also working with known American rappers as well.

    • @prodyungbames
      @prodyungbames Рік тому

      Whats their name?

    • @glendwellz
      @glendwellz Рік тому

      @@prodyungbames the first guy I don’t remember his name cos it’s been like 15+ years ago but this other guy is dj scob

  • @jusbenji
    @jusbenji Рік тому

    These videos are really good bro

  • @leedurham3144
    @leedurham3144 Рік тому +15

    As a person that know someone in the industry. They even do this to engineers. They do it to everyone. Music is a shady business

    • @Jokerlevin
      @Jokerlevin Рік тому +1

      All businesses are shady. If you can save money and get away with it, you will.

  • @reggiefurlow1
    @reggiefurlow1 Рік тому

    This happens in every field where there is a apprentice situation unfortunately

  • @BT-sharky
    @BT-sharky Рік тому

    This is a fascinating video, great work

  • @enzigenes
    @enzigenes Рік тому +1

    Southside from 808 Mafia does this to a lot of the young and dumb producers he got signed under him. He puts his 808 mafia tag on their beats but doesn't credit them.

  • @Marcustrh
    @Marcustrh Рік тому +1

    Would love a video on just blaze perhaps a what naive can teach us about him 🤞🏾🤞🏾🤞🏾🤞🏾

  • @drdark7806
    @drdark7806 Рік тому +2

    If u do a part 2 - beatnuts and jenny from the block- “2 shots of henny on the rocks, and if the beats nuts I’ll take it like jenny from the block”

  • @wreignone
    @wreignone 8 місяців тому +1

    Ive been stolen off. I dont wanna even givem a name. But trust. It made me feel like seeking some type of revenge. Especially when i saw in his comments people talk about how good it sounded. I will release the entire original project 1 day soon. I think thats the best way. 😊

    • @Maintain6S
      @Maintain6S 5 місяців тому

      Yep me two so I know how it feel to look at comments on something you made and the fans look at the guy who stole it from you like some kinda genius

  • @StillIchor
    @StillIchor Рік тому +2

    Can you make a video about Clams Casino and Danger Mouse too?

  • @travisstreetz
    @travisstreetz Рік тому +1

    New to your channel and love the content 🔥🔥🔥 you got my sub

  • @phaizrok
    @phaizrok Рік тому +1

    sample jacking/biting is a no no.. if you're going to use a sample that's already been used, you need to flip that sample to sound totally different. The end result will always be victorious.

  • @emeryemmanuel8892
    @emeryemmanuel8892 Рік тому

    Do for love karlin said they wanted it to sound like a tribe called quest "relax yourself", now for the DJ Dillah part it's my first time hearing it, but with your explanations it sounds like a mix of both ATCQ & Dillah which were collaboraters

  • @FalloutskyyBeats
    @FalloutskyyBeats Рік тому

    Loool that ending with the spotify credits was hilarious

  • @samuelmedina9984
    @samuelmedina9984 Рік тому

    I just came along and then I found your channel I really like it😊

  • @leeoni24
    @leeoni24 Рік тому +1

    there was a song from st louis that was no 1 in the city.. that got played several times on L.A. radio 2 years before pac used it..the song was Deep by Illegal Assembly pac sped it up ad called it picture me rollin

  • @c4d881
    @c4d881 2 місяці тому +4

    9:29 yeah Diddy must have just done the respectful, ethical thing. That makes sense

  • @lowkeyloki8832
    @lowkeyloki8832 Рік тому +1

    Yeah, you're right. Sometimes it's not outright theft. The Down N Out situation reminds me of Kitty Kat by G-Unit, where on the record 50 shoutouts Polow Da Don as the producer but the credits list Hit-Boy (Who was signed to Polow at the time). What ended up happening was that the beat CD came from Polow so 50 assumed the beat was made by him when he recorded the verse. lol

    • @michaelcucchiara
      @michaelcucchiara Рік тому

      Same exact siatuatiin with Who Dat by Jeezy. D Rich made it even tho Jeezy shouts out SR

  • @organisednoise286
    @organisednoise286 Рік тому +11

    J Dilla's ear must've been insane. How the hell did he hear all that in Do for love?😮

    • @MrHonkler
      @MrHonkler 3 місяці тому

      Our music is like our kids. The time, effort and dedication needed is like raising a kid and watching him grow up to becomin something great. When you hear your kids voice, its unmistakable

  • @AmbiguousAnthony
    @AmbiguousAnthony Рік тому

    Mann I love this video, nice content as always. Thanks

  • @syfromfaraway
    @syfromfaraway Рік тому +6

    Something like that happened to me once.
    I was featured on a song that got almost half a mill streams on SoundCloud (which was at peak popularity back then) and was getting thousands of streams on other services, yet I didn’t get any traffic from it since my artist name was misspelled, the artist who was the main artist was doing his best to change that, yet nothing came of it.
    Morale of the story: Be careful what distributors you work with.

  • @liljuz1981
    @liljuz1981 Рік тому

    6:03 isnt it just the same sample as electric relaxation ??

  • @carlminorsr2634
    @carlminorsr2634 Рік тому

    Tupac beat sampled is from Bobby Caldwell(What You Won't Do For Love). Master P sampled it to for(If I Could Change)

  • @lturner7159
    @lturner7159 Рік тому

    Great video, funny 🤣 thing I was just discussing Poppa Was A Playa with a friend who happens to be a producer as well because I love the sample usage and especially the hi hat panning technique along with the drum simplicity and the chimes but those hi hats 🔥 🤦🏿‍♂️

  • @PHINEUS
    @PHINEUS Рік тому

    This is not stealing beats bro when u use the same sample another producer uses bro that’s hip hop it’s called sampling…. U can’t can’t call it stealing if it doesn’t belong to u…it’s a sample that’s not stealing

  • @100_barber
    @100_barber Рік тому

    Down and out beat was originally on a song Called Anthrax it came out years before Kanye's version, it was produced by a group in Philly on a mix tape called Logan Valley

  • @mattmonroemusic90
    @mattmonroemusic90 Рік тому +1

    Thanks for risking your life for the greater good. Bless you

  • @jjbing3
    @jjbing3 Рік тому +3

    Damn. I didn’t know Kanye didn’t produce Down and Out. It’s one of my fav beats from him! 😑

  • @spacecadet1936
    @spacecadet1936 Рік тому +1

    Do you drive a green car around Venice, CA? I saw you

  • @D-J-1-1-1
    @D-J-1-1-1 Рік тому +1

    i have a beat that was sampled "big sean - Beware" i used fl demo so i never did anything about it

    • @kj3887
      @kj3887 Рік тому +3

      🧢 🧢 🧢

  • @HypnoMusic
    @HypnoMusic Рік тому

    number 1 youtuber to watch while eating

  • @Matt-fq7vc
    @Matt-fq7vc Рік тому +5

    wanted too let you know i enjoy your content very much, i find it very "inclusive" even though im using ableton, keep going love ur work

    • @NavieD
      @NavieD  Рік тому +3

      Thanks Matt! I try my best to make the videos understandable no matter what you use

  • @steelokey
    @steelokey Рік тому

    Damn I’m here under 10,000 views, haha crazy.
    Been really enjoying your videos 🎉

  • @Tropicaya
    @Tropicaya Рік тому +10

    The Puffy vs. Pete Rock situation is a common thing among black men: Basically Puff looking down on Pete like someone like YOU shouldn't be this good, so I have to bring up someone else who I deem worthy or is one of "us".
    We all know the type of people that Puffy prefers.

    • @NavieD
      @NavieD  Рік тому +10

      Well that went to places I didn't expect

  • @StuntmanBeatz313
    @StuntmanBeatz313 4 місяці тому +2

    me & a couple of my guys used the same exact sample & made 3 different beats..

  • @SetInTheWestDoc
    @SetInTheWestDoc Рік тому

    are we gonna talk about "Juicy" sounding similar to the Notorious B1 song Big Daddy?

  • @JanElhj255
    @JanElhj255 Рік тому

    The mall soundbyte on do for love is used by many like tribe called quest the bass is moog and rhodes played by karlin

  • @travisdaughtry5910
    @travisdaughtry5910 Рік тому

    Over a year prior to ready to dies release , Dre Dog’s the new Jim jones had that beat from juicy and the beat to big poppa
    So who really made it first 🤔

  • @LawrenceArnell
    @LawrenceArnell 10 місяців тому

    Great stuff man. Sub well earned.

  • @anthonykojalowicz8189
    @anthonykojalowicz8189 11 місяців тому

    I first hear Pappa was a player in '98-'99, was Kanye really ghost producing back then?

  • @victorsantos8723
    @victorsantos8723 Рік тому +1

    It’s a paradox to say someone stole from some else who stole. I mean as a sonic thief myself, isn’t it all stealing? As long as you make something that sounds new. 💯

  • @DojoOfCool
    @DojoOfCool Рік тому

    I'm and old guy and looking at this from past copyright law as I knew it. So a lot in this video what is being taken a single beat a quarter note. Old copyright was it wasn't thief unless x measures of music were identical. Well one quarter note doesn't met the definition. It seems a lot of the issue is the actual processed sound, copyright law only covers melody and lyrics nothing else not chords, rhythms, etc. So it's confusing from that copyright standpoint. But there are two types of copyright one is the songwriter/composer and the other is the actually recording that is call mechanical copyright. Mechanical copyright is a royalty is paid anything a specific recording is played publicly like radio, TV, on CD in a store or in a bar. If that recording gets play anyway in the public someone is suppose to pay. So my guess that is what there lawsuits are about, but does mechanical copyright go all the way down to a single quarter note??? Then my background as an old musician kicks in. Musicians on a recording session get a piece of the mechanical royalty on a decreasing schedule over years. So are the musician from the original recording getting paid their little slice of the royalty???
    Bottom line I think all the copyright laws need to be rewritten to work in the 21st century and how music is created.

  • @NORBZMUSIC
    @NORBZMUSIC Рік тому +3

    Great breakdown. Fun fact: All the slowed & reverb and Sped up reverb stuff is just people stealing older hits and literally speeding them up/down and adding a reverb just so it obfuscates the wav file and fux the content ID - ppl make some sheckels until they are caught.

    • @NavieD
      @NavieD  Рік тому

      Oh damn, that is an interesting take

    • @NORBZMUSIC
      @NORBZMUSIC Рік тому

      @@NavieD It got so big so fast that the majors started to populate some of the accounts with the actual artists tracks to steal back the sheckels/share, the market started to think it's a real genre/thing, and here we are lol everyone repurposing their catalogs speeding them up/down. It's wild how bad actors can sometimes shape a genre/trend.
      I have a lot of covers that are placed as spedup/slowed down doing the same but making safe covers not just stealing obscure old hits hoping labels are long gone now.. New bad actors think it's easy and are doing it to major recent releases and getting caught quicker now. Anyway, great vid.

  • @Kohibabeatz
    @Kohibabeatz Рік тому +1

    Whats up bro great video .. yes its crazy I had a portion of one of my loops in loopeeman called traper bellz from kohibabeatz that was used on Travis Scott THANK GOD song the intro bells and I never got no credit ..

  • @beatthesystem6954
    @beatthesystem6954 Рік тому +191

    y'all wanna bet how long navie lasts after releasing this?😂

    • @baL88537
      @baL88537 Рік тому

      Kanye is loser I dont like him 🤣 his fans so cringe

    • @NavieD
      @NavieD  Рік тому +87

      UA-cam gang protect me!

    • @supermcfly100
      @supermcfly100 Рік тому +14

      @@NavieDdude this is like Illuminati conspiracy theory level information.

    • @prod.youngsensai
      @prod.youngsensai Рік тому +3

      48 hours 💀

    • @GhettoAceTypeBeat
      @GhettoAceTypeBeat Рік тому +6

      I’m selling the “Free Navie” t-shirts right now!😂

  • @TheChameleon2008
    @TheChameleon2008 Рік тому +12

    Diddy needs to go to jail

    • @UnbiasedBrim
      @UnbiasedBrim Рік тому

      Diddy got my joint back in 2001. It's wasn't his fault tho. I sent it to him.

    • @bobroctopus2210
      @bobroctopus2210 2 місяці тому

      you're not gonna believe this