The 26 Acre Maker Shop Part 2: K&T and Cincinnati Milling Machines

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  • Опубліковано 31 лип 2024
  • The second part of the video here will share the use of Lance's Cincinnati Milling machine. Since he bought it he's never put it to the test so we'll get it fired up and do some milling to see how it performs. We also reveal another horizontal milling machine he recently bought, a K&T plain No. 4 horizontal mill. This is a machine that I have expressed interest in buying from Lance. We'll wire it up and test it out to see how it works.
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  •  2 роки тому +14

    Beautiful farm you have! My farm, along with the family's sits at 7248 ft above sea level in the beautiful state of Jalisco, Mexico. Tequila County! We're cattle ranchers and beekeepers!

  • @highkicker11
    @highkicker11 2 роки тому +12

    just love how the universal mill looks going backwards till you slow it down. such a nice shutter effect.

  • @tomasjosefvela1
    @tomasjosefvela1 2 роки тому

    what great friends you both have! Thanks for sharing all the creativity and friendship. It's good to see positivity in the current climate.

  • @philipallard8026
    @philipallard8026 2 роки тому +3

    Thank you Lance for sharing your shop and farm. Abom, you need one of those mills.

  • @crocketteerden6240
    @crocketteerden6240 2 роки тому

    I worked at K&T renewment division for years and worked on many of these beauties. Real work horses. Nice fid.

  • @zakksrage
    @zakksrage 2 роки тому +1

    Turnwright machine works is the number one stop for machining knowledge

  • @tedmiles2110
    @tedmiles2110 10 місяців тому

    You have to love those K & T mills; whatever model they are! TM long time listener

  • @Bones6987
    @Bones6987 2 роки тому +1

    Excellent video
    Saw that same type machinery in a stamping plant I worked in for 18 years
    Ran a cutter like that making Press Brake dies and shoes for punch press
    Definitely some great times
    Thanks for the videos

  • @bulletproofpepper2
    @bulletproofpepper2 2 роки тому

    Yep all my brother-in-laws love for me to visit too! Get stuff fixed all worked out. Thanks for sharing!

  • @nothing2loud
    @nothing2loud 2 роки тому +12

    Fun to watch you two guys together, seems like guys get along great and like the same things.

  • @olddawgdreaming5715
    @olddawgdreaming5715 2 роки тому

    Always a good time with friends, thanks for sharing with us. Fred.

  • @jamesbarisitz4794
    @jamesbarisitz4794 2 роки тому +2

    After a good scrub and rinse this has real value if everything isn't too worn or sloppy. Nice visit to a great fellows farm/shop. ✌

  • @Sumphuka
    @Sumphuka 2 роки тому +6

    Hey Adam. Just wanted to say I love your channel and vids. I wish I'd have known more about this stuff as a kid when I was choosing my path at school. Would love to get involved in the industry, but suppose I have to live it vicariously through channels like yours now. Thanks a lot fella.

  • @rodneykiemele4721
    @rodneykiemele4721 2 роки тому

    Those were two great videos, Thank You very much, Adam and Lance.

  • @pauljoseph8338
    @pauljoseph8338 2 роки тому +6

    Been watching your videos for years, Adam. Before you were working at Motion, and waaay before you met Abbie. You were very serious back then. So good to see you happy and content with the life you’ve created for yourself. Hard work pays off. Congrats.

    • @millomweb
      @millomweb 2 роки тому

      Maybe life wasn't so good for him back then ?

  • @jamesdonndelinger1522
    @jamesdonndelinger1522 2 роки тому +27

    Grab it! The 4H is essentially a 3K with a #4 table. For your work it is a far better machine than the S Series - no comparison as far as serious milling is concerned - a 50% overload is no problem! Jim Donndelinger, K&T retired.

    • @millomweb
      @millomweb 2 роки тому

      No spindle reverse switch ? Really ??

    • @kentuckytrapper780
      @kentuckytrapper780 2 роки тому

      @@millomweb mine has a pull button for reverse, model k 2 universal.

    • @skmetal7
      @skmetal7 2 роки тому +1

      it would be great in the new shop!

    • @millomweb
      @millomweb 2 роки тому

      @@kentuckytrapper780 Is that a mechanical reverse ? I've a feeling I've seen that control - like a T handle to get a finger either side of the shaft you pull ?

    • @littlejackalo5326
      @littlejackalo5326 2 роки тому +3

      @@truthbetold2914 you still here whining? You are so jealous that he doesn't have to punch a time card.

  • @toms.3977
    @toms.3977 2 роки тому

    That was a good video. Like comfort food for the soul. Thanks, Adam.

  • @carlwhite8225
    @carlwhite8225 2 роки тому +2

    That was a great video series, thanks Adam.

  • @thomaschandler8036
    @thomaschandler8036 2 роки тому

    Good videos, thanks Lance for letting us see your shop and farm. I know y'all enjoyed Abbie and Adam's visit. We all did.

  • @geraldharvill4699
    @geraldharvill4699 2 роки тому

    I know nothing about these machines. I always been amazed when you flip switches to Unknown machines. And the beast spring to life.

  • @ricko5123
    @ricko5123 2 роки тому +1

    I love that you have the power on your Y on that K&T. I wish my K&T2d had that built into it, and I heard there is another one of us K&T2d owners out there that actually have that...Don't wait to long for picking it up, Adam... Good thing you know Lance so he holds it for you...Njoy them machines guys... Ricko

  • @ÁREAJ27
    @ÁREAJ27 2 роки тому +6

    Fantástico o vídeo gosto de ver o trabalho desses profissionais!!!
    Abraço a todos!!!

  • @SteveSummers
    @SteveSummers 2 роки тому +1

    Nice machine 😁👍. I love those old K&T mills. They are about as industrial as they get. They also have a look that is hard to beat.

  • @BobOBob
    @BobOBob 2 роки тому +4

    In case that K&T lacks a parking attachment, there's a series of YT videos out there somewhere . . .
    I learned a lot from those, and got hooked on that guy's channel.

  • @mattWallJsy
    @mattWallJsy 2 роки тому +21

    Those K&T machines are fantastic. It will look much better in your shop, than Lance's though. 😎👌🏼

    • @kensherwin4544
      @kensherwin4544 2 роки тому +2

      Better in a shop than in a fence row.

  • @stanwooddave9758
    @stanwooddave9758 2 роки тому

    Watch them doggo's run after the food. Such fun. Thanks for sharing. Big thank you to Lance.

  • @grahamstretch6863
    @grahamstretch6863 2 роки тому +1

    I used to run a vertical mill version of the Milwaukee mill in a little factory on the Isle of Wight England, that thing was a beast and I loved running it!
    It was date stamped 1940, we believe it came over on lend lease during WWII!

  • @jeffreypeters8446
    @jeffreypeters8446 2 роки тому +1

    Feeding the cows was great! What a way to end the 2 part series!

  • @robc3056
    @robc3056 2 роки тому

    so so good to see it not scrapped..

  • @lynxpardinus2352
    @lynxpardinus2352 7 місяців тому

    Beautiful machine ! Hello desde cordoba (Andalucia ,España)

  • @charliemclaughlin1042
    @charliemclaughlin1042 2 роки тому +2

    Was a great video man I miss machining 👍

  • @wdhewson
    @wdhewson 2 роки тому

    Never thought I'd see a stampede on Abom's channel !!

  • @tomahoks
    @tomahoks 2 роки тому +2

    Cool mill.

  • @tonydunfordtd
    @tonydunfordtd 2 роки тому

    I love to see happy families God bless you all

  • @sinisatrlin840
    @sinisatrlin840 2 роки тому

    Great machine. I purchased TOS FN25 on internet auction 15 years ago with not working feeds, same thing happened to that guy, he was running it backwards and could not engage feeds. He got angry and threw it i auction right away without thinking.
    Now i have mint condition milling machine with vertical head, slotting head, stiff and universal table for 1500Euros, full price with shipping from central Germany.
    Best deal i ever had, it is so quiet that everyone is amazed, when i retire it is going with me to my home garage.

  • @larrysmurthwaite773
    @larrysmurthwaite773 2 роки тому +3

    Ok, I got fooled! I seriously thought this was your new property and I had somehow missed the building going up. I’m old.

  • @peterparsons3297
    @peterparsons3297 2 роки тому +1

    thats nice, all thats needed is a vertical head. i love the old equipment all seem to be better made than the modern stuff

    • @millomweb
      @millomweb 2 роки тому +1

      Did the K&T not have a vertical head ? I know t wasn't on it but maybe Lance has it stashed somewhere.

  • @explorationuk6737
    @explorationuk6737 2 роки тому +2

    I just can't wait to see you bring this machine back to Adam spec ..we all know youl do a more than perfect job of it ..you see by far one of the more meticulous gents I watch...it's dream viewing buddy it really is ...
    Peace n love from Cumbria UK 🇬🇧 ❤

    • @millomweb
      @millomweb 2 роки тому

      Some years ago (back half of the 1990s) when newsgroups were a thing in the Internet, I got to know a few names from some of the groups. One year, I went on holiday to south coast of France - cheap coach trip. I'd taken my fold-up Brompton bike. Got off the coach - and there was another guy with a Brompton. Turned out that I knew him from the Internet ! So of course one day in the week we went on a bike ride together. Odd how things like that turn out.
      We've just watched a video of people enjoying machines in Florida - and I'm in Millom, where are you ?

    • @explorationuk6737
      @explorationuk6737 2 роки тому

      @@millomweb over in barrow buddy

    • @millomweb
      @millomweb 2 роки тому

      @@explorationuk6737 6 miles away - as the chips fly !
      Can you recommend any metal fabricators there - I need some metal gates making & installing - I need quotes. I e-mailed St Andrews engineering - got no response !
      Have you been in B.L. Gilbert - machine tools supplies ? I've not but my dad must have - back when the phone code was 0229 !

  • @paulpipitone8357
    @paulpipitone8357 2 роки тому +1

    Love lances land so beautiful

  • @millomweb
    @millomweb 2 роки тому

    It sounds really good :)

  • @scottvolage1752
    @scottvolage1752 2 роки тому +2

    Have a good weekend Adam. =)

  • @Biokemist-o3k
    @Biokemist-o3k 2 роки тому +2

    I love Florida!! I went to USF and I am planning on moving back from PA to Tampa to start a welding and machine shop for restoring old Porsches, Ferraris and Lambos..and a bunch of other stuff including fabricating all sorts of stuff.

    • @xenonram
      @xenonram 2 роки тому +1

      I went to USF too. Never hear of anyone talking about it.

  • @bennyfactor
    @bennyfactor 2 роки тому

    That K&T is a real beutiful art deco design. Obviously you know way more about whether it'd be useful to you and whether you really need it or not, but just on aesthetics alone I'd recommend it! Would fit right in with the Pacemaker.

  • @ricko5123
    @ricko5123 2 роки тому

    Lance you will Love your ProtoTrak and get real use to it quick. My knee mills were manual and also the Bridgeport 3 axis EZTRACKs with the full blown large color monitors and the joy wand. Of course they are full manual, 2 axis and 3 axis for Z at the quill. Manual input, G code and or Mastercam. Njoy this K&T Adam for the shop...

  • @ragnarironspear1791
    @ragnarironspear1791 2 роки тому

    WOW I started on one of those as an apprentice

  • @MoraFermi
    @MoraFermi 2 роки тому +4

    Gotta love that reverse spin cutter on the Cincinnati, eating that metal all backwards!

    • @tomahoks
      @tomahoks 2 роки тому +2

      Seems like it but it ain’t.

  • @jonathangriffin1120
    @jonathangriffin1120 2 роки тому +1

    Steve Summers has a similar K&T, a shop[ I worked at fifty years ago had two of them, well past their prime, one had been converted to a vertical mill using an Elliott vertical head, the head was driven by a motor mounted on top of the machine via a duplex chain and sprockets and a Ford Transit gearbox.

  • @BCHonea
    @BCHonea 2 роки тому +2

    You should start a 26 acre machining school bro, I would love nothing more than to have a teacher like you

    • @Abom79
      @Abom79  2 роки тому +3

      Lance and I have toyed around with the idea of possibly having some small private classes.

  • @kenboswell8012
    @kenboswell8012 2 роки тому

    Brilliant

  • @o0ThunderGod0o
    @o0ThunderGod0o 2 роки тому +1

    The great thing about the big, older horizontal mills is that they are plentiful and inexpensive. I used my old Cincinnati no.2 as a small horizontal boring mill.

  • @matthewperlman3356
    @matthewperlman3356 2 роки тому

    That K&T looks like a real beast! if it's not worn out you should go for it if you can.

  • @paulpipitone8357
    @paulpipitone8357 2 роки тому +1

    Cant Waite for Adam to get his new property finished

  • @timk854
    @timk854 2 роки тому +2

    Now that’s some good living right there

  • @ormmeford2204
    @ormmeford2204 2 роки тому

    Love the good Scotch!

  • @t.d.mich.7064
    @t.d.mich.7064 2 роки тому +1

    Those old KT Horizontal are great for slabbing blocks and squaring edges of plates.

  • @jdmccorful
    @jdmccorful 2 роки тому

    Not far off about blinking and its gone. Thanks for the look.

  • @diabloed80
    @diabloed80 2 роки тому

    My brain melts trying to watch that cutter spinning the opposite way as the shaft! 😂

  • @rexmundi8154
    @rexmundi8154 2 роки тому

    Prototraks are great machines. Mine with the 1996 era control still runs great.

  • @robertbailey947
    @robertbailey947 2 роки тому +2

    I just noticed Lance's sweatshirts. Salem State University is about 5 miles from my house. :-)

  • @Rovinman
    @Rovinman 2 роки тому +1

    There's a lot of rust to remove, but it it looks feasible then go for it.
    The restoration Vlogs will be REALLY interesting and informative !

  • @michaelkoch2109
    @michaelkoch2109 2 роки тому

    A very nice place to live!

  • @tomahoks
    @tomahoks 2 роки тому +4

    Macallan IS good stuff. True.

  • @kevinberry4949
    @kevinberry4949 2 роки тому +3

    You know that mill should be going home with you

  • @brandonvarney7258
    @brandonvarney7258 2 роки тому +1

    Good to see he upgraded the DPM 3 TRAK mill from A.G.E.3 to the KMX Control. That's to clean of a machine to leave old control on it.
    Once you play with that you will have to have 1 in your new shop!

    • @lancebaltzley4770
      @lancebaltzley4770 2 роки тому +1

      I just did a little R&M on it, so happy with the KMX. Its an amazing mill and in exceptional condition now.... Thanks for watching

    • @brandonvarney7258
      @brandonvarney7258 2 роки тому

      Not sure if they Calibrated it when they installed control?
      Let me know I can walk you though it. It's real easy.
      Also did they leave scales or sensors for dual feed back or you just running off servo encoders?
      I would have interest in those parts if you aren't using dual feedback encoders.

    • @lancebaltzley4770
      @lancebaltzley4770 2 роки тому

      @@brandonvarney7258 Yes they did do a calibration, I did the Z calibration (long story). I kept the scales as well....

    • @brandonvarney7258
      @brandonvarney7258 2 роки тому

      @@lancebaltzley4770 Good call on keeping scales. It should be now problem getting each axis to Calibrate within .0002 "
      If anything would go wrong you can easily toogle them off in Service Code 304 for X or 305 for Y Axis.
      Hopefully all the rubber lines going to ball screws are good. If so that machine will last the rest of your life.
      Really glad to see you upgraded!!

  • @brentdavis4867
    @brentdavis4867 2 роки тому

    SSU for the win when I attended, it was Salem State College just next door to my city

  • @danlabonty9720
    @danlabonty9720 2 роки тому +3

    The old k&t are tanks. They come up for sale around hear pretty often. But that maybe cause I'm 30 min north of Milwaukee WI.

  • @killerdoxen
    @killerdoxen 2 роки тому +2

    Seeing the thumbnail, I honestly thought this was a Red Green video!

  • @tinker5349
    @tinker5349 2 роки тому

    Hi nice machine

  • @stevenslater2669
    @stevenslater2669 2 роки тому +4

    File this episode under “Life is Good!”

  • @planetwisconsin9901
    @planetwisconsin9901 2 роки тому

    I like how it says Milwaukee on the side! 😊

    • @garymallard4699
      @garymallard4699 2 роки тому

      The forklift was a Master Craft which is a line of tools sold at Canadian Tire in Canada 🤣

  • @kentuckytrapper780
    @kentuckytrapper780 2 роки тому +1

    My k&t is a model k universal made 1944, runs great need to find the over arm attachment for horizontal.

  • @taunter22nil58
    @taunter22nil58 2 роки тому +1

    Dope

  • @bryceklemm8670
    @bryceklemm8670 2 роки тому +1

    Getting here early 😁

  • @mikehoare6093
    @mikehoare6093 2 роки тому

    oh man, cincinnatis are the super awesome !

  • @user-kf9ib8ic6q
    @user-kf9ib8ic6q 2 роки тому

    Класс !!!! Россия смотрит ! Мира добра и удачи !!!

  • @davidfloyd9413
    @davidfloyd9413 2 роки тому

    Seen you and the Ma'am in Mississippi the other weekend

  • @flagman619
    @flagman619 2 роки тому +1

    I still run an old K and T about twice a month

  • @vicentenovaes9107
    @vicentenovaes9107 2 роки тому

    muito bom muito obrigado abom 79 abraços ................

  • @Mr229357
    @Mr229357 2 роки тому +1

    You should try some Laphroaig whisky. Good video 😊👍🏻👍🏻

  • @PeteBrubaker
    @PeteBrubaker 2 роки тому

    Man I would love to hang out with you and Lance sometime. I'd even offer my help scraping that surface grinder in when he does it. Just to learn how he figures out what needs to be scraped. I'll help with the labor!

  • @leonardoa.espinozasoto9771
    @leonardoa.espinozasoto9771 8 місяців тому

    grate grate i am k and trecker 2 model h nro. 3 and 1 205 SA universal . saludos de santiago de chile

  • @sawz5
    @sawz5 2 роки тому

    the optical illusions always amaze me. you can see the shaft turning clock wise and the cutter looks to be turning counter clock wise. can you climb cut with a horizontal?

  • @tonythompson9049
    @tonythompson9049 2 роки тому

    Get it adam an put in the new shop

  • @TheJohndeere466
    @TheJohndeere466 2 роки тому

    I have a horizontal cicinnati like that one and mine also has the attachment for milling helical parts. I got it from a forging shop. They used it to make all their own helical endmills for cutting their forging dies.

    • @millomweb
      @millomweb 2 роки тому

      I think the Cincinnati are better than K&T - just ! What do you say ?

    • @TheJohndeere466
      @TheJohndeere466 2 роки тому

      @@millomweb I like the Cincinnati machines better except for the rapid traverse clutch. It seems that the clutch on the kts always worked better

    • @millomweb
      @millomweb 2 роки тому

      @@TheJohndeere466 Interesting. Are they both 'gradual' clutches - so you can regulate the rapid speed ? What little's been shown on YT, the rapids have been pretty much on/off. Mine is definitely variable - the lever needs a good pull to get the knee raising !

    • @TheJohndeere466
      @TheJohndeere466 2 роки тому

      @@millomweb Its my experience where the kt takes very little pressure on the rapid handle to make it work. The cincinnati takes much more.

    • @millomweb
      @millomweb 2 роки тому

      @@TheJohndeere466 Could that lead to the K&Ts being a bit uncontrollable ? I.e. don't slow down as you ease the pressure off - risking running into things ?
      On mine (Dufour, type 61) the rapids lever disengages the feed drive via a dog clutch and then gives a very sensitive progressive speed increase the more pull on the lever. When the rapids are running, it's easy to speed up or slow down the rapid feed.

  • @ThomasLips
    @ThomasLips 2 роки тому +14

    I like Lance's last comment, "easier than having family" I've always said you can choose your friends but your family is inflicted upon you.

    • @michaelkoch2109
      @michaelkoch2109 2 роки тому +6

      A good friend is worth more than all the gold in the world!

    • @highkicker11
      @highkicker11 2 роки тому +1

      friends become the family you chose and collected, family become the people you knew or visit from time to time

    • @michaelkoch2109
      @michaelkoch2109 2 роки тому

      @@highkicker11 Yes. You can look at it that way, too.

  • @raymurphy9749
    @raymurphy9749 2 роки тому +1

    45 years of age and live in Britain where we have fields of cows every where and I've never seen them run once. Almost began to believe they couldn't. 😂

    • @millomweb
      @millomweb 2 роки тому +1

      We used to have. Dairy industry is dying.

    • @arfonjones7188
      @arfonjones7188 2 роки тому +1

      You don't want dairy cows running, it don't do them any good. Heifers and steers run all the time.

  • @BasedBidoof
    @BasedBidoof 2 роки тому

    it's cool how the cutters on that mill appear to be moving the wrong way, but looking at other things you can tell which way it's spinning

    • @sferg9582
      @sferg9582 2 роки тому

      He actually has the cutter running the wrong direction.... it should be mounted on the arbor running in the other direction, meaning that imagine if you were to hold the arbor nut still, would the direction of rotation be tightening or loosening the nut? Rotation combined with vibration can loosen the cutter, and should be tightening the nut. This is why grinders would have a right hand or a left hand thread depending on which side the wheel is on.

    • @TheJohndeere466
      @TheJohndeere466 2 роки тому

      @@sferg9582 Milling arbors have a key that engages the cutter so it will not loosen the nut unless he forgot the key.

  • @avijitDrilling92
    @avijitDrilling92 2 роки тому

    👍👍

  • @HJA03406
    @HJA03406 2 роки тому

    Thats where friends are for. Keith knows everything. LOL But still the question.... is he buying it????

  • @samrobinson3949
    @samrobinson3949 2 роки тому +6

    Hey Adam! I've been a subscriber for years and love your videos, i went into a machine shop to look at a damaged door and watching those guys mill large parts from copper gave me anxiety. I'd be so worried about making a mistake.

    • @tombeauchamp806
      @tombeauchamp806 2 роки тому +4

      I was a CNC machinist after being a manual machinist for a while... Copper was always a pucker job when using a new machine or just in general lol

    • @samrobinson3949
      @samrobinson3949 2 роки тому +1

      I'm glad to see I'm not alone

  • @JamesP_TheShedShop
    @JamesP_TheShedShop 2 роки тому +2

    Talk about moving some metal. Wow

  • @georgespangler1517
    @georgespangler1517 2 роки тому

    Great machine if there's no table wear,,, l have a small simple Sheldon horizontal mill,, love it,, give me a horizontal over vertical mill for my needs.

  • @Stormin13
    @Stormin13 2 роки тому

    It's trippy how the camera frame rate makes it look like cutter is turning backwards

  • @brucemansfield2501
    @brucemansfield2501 2 роки тому

    Because I know you use them. What size multifix tool holder is right for a south bend heavy 10 lathe?

  • @salsyou
    @salsyou 2 роки тому

    those two blocks of wood on the weight of the fork lift kept her from tipping ;)

  • @georgespangler1517
    @georgespangler1517 2 роки тому

    Crazy,,,my first thought was would it slide with motor spinning backwards,,,lol ,

  • @georgeescaped6035
    @georgeescaped6035 2 роки тому +1

    STAMPEAD !!!!!!!!

  • @millomweb
    @millomweb 2 роки тому

    My mill has a reversing switch - for reversing the motor. Is that unusual for mills ?

  • @rustyshackleford928
    @rustyshackleford928 2 роки тому

    I liked the cows.

    • @arfonjones7188
      @arfonjones7188 2 роки тому

      No green grass though, and it's the middle of march.

  • @bcbloc02
    @bcbloc02 2 роки тому +1

    #4 is a handy size for a small mIll. :-)

    • @millomweb
      @millomweb 2 роки тому

      It doesn't look like it's been drop-tested either ;)