During their years of domination, strategy has often been Mercedes' weakness, allowing for Red Bull to beat them a few times per season. This is what makes the current Reb Bull team so scary: they are the best at everything: car, reliability, tire wear, strategy, pit stops. I can easily see Max win 15+ in a row
He has 15 top 2's in a row already, with 13 wins. 1 seconds place was due to a team error in qualifying, and another was due to a setup error during the race. He's also already had a chance for 9 in a row if not for another qualifying error by the team in Singapore last year. Only Brazil last year looked weak on multiple fronts for Red Bull during that entire streak.
yep. agreed. strategy and luck. even with inferior car, max, seb, charles, daniel and other can stole some wins from the dominant merc in 2014-2020 with even a little bit of luck and decisive strategy call. the most recent example i think like monza 2020 where luck and blunder enabled a midfielder to stole the wins from lewis this is not the case in current season. even with some wild circumstances that could mix the grid up, max still win. monaco, sprint in spa and zandvoort for example. with wildly changing weather, max still win. that's not the case with lewis' dominant era
There's also the point that - even when the Mercedes was fantastic, it wasn't bulletproof and had weaknesses at certain tracks. There aren't weaknesses there in that Red Bull.
The thing that Max and prime Seb had in common is their ruthlessness. Every race is a must-win, regardless of if you've already wrapped up the championship or you're being Multi-21'd. At the risk of sounding like Will Buxton, they have the longest win streaks because winning is the only acceptable option for them.
Yes exactly, there’s no point in saying “if that didn’t happen” in case of mistakes from the driver and team because guess what, they did happen. I do understand in terms of Lewis getting COVID but for all that other stuff, either the driver or the team wasn’t as good as max verstappen and redbull. It’s not an individual record, it’s a team effort.
@@danbruh33 Yeah, but you can't blame Lewis for not winning races where his team screws up, so it's still a completely fair argument. If all bad things out of his control hadn't happened, he would probably have a win streak around 15 or more
@@VENO5407 its not a valid argument. its a team sport, not an individual sport. Lewis is part of the team. I mean without all the good things Merc did, Lewis would not have his 7 titles. Same goes for Max/RB naturally
Simply put, max and redbull are bulletproof if they have a good car like in this season. Max’s consistency even when he doesn’t have the fastest car every race is crazy, especially 2020 onwards. Redbull gives max the best strategies to maximise the result and max gets every bit of performance out of the car without making any mistakes. Lewis came close in 2020 but the team wasn’t as perfect as redbull.
Yeah, Merc has always been poor strategically and operationally, and that makes all the difference. Especially when their cars were not nearly as good as the RB, which happened from time to time as Merc has always had off-tracks unlike RB such as Singapore and Monaco in 2017-2021 for example
Exactly. And the failure during the virtual safety car (not the safety car) to make use of the Free pit stop they had in Abu Dhabi 2021 after Max pitted, might have cost Lewis hiw 8th WDC.
@@ausriusdidziokas6771 Mercedes is KNOWN for being poor at strategy too. It's just been less visible and less talked about because they used to have a car that was so fast it was immaterial for about a decade. They just never had to learn to master the strategy game, and they still haven't.
At this point I'm just expecting him to win the rest of the races this season and RedBull getting a clean sweep. And although I'm a Ferrari fan I'm not even mad about it, can't help but admire the accomplishment.
@@TommoOnUA-cam Yeah, it's getting a bit too much, but seeing as I reveled in the Schumacher/Ferrari dominance in my teens, I feel like I shouldn't really be complaining too loudly 😅
Im not hating so dont translate it as that, but I wonder why when lewis was winning, I never really saw comments like this where it says "I don't even mind, I just appreciate the accomplishment" it was mostly "it's 100% the car% as if it drives itself lol it's just kinda crazy to see the double standards against the 7 time world champion as if he wasn't sitting in the cockpit holding the steering wheel lol
@@justinf4071 Might be because you haven't seen my comments before. I just think it would be very hypocritical to complain about other drivers dominating when you don't complain about your favourite dominating. Which might be a wisdom that comes with age. Also I think if Max now gets a couple more championships (in addittion to this year, we know he's got it) - maybe even interrupted by a teammate like Rosberg did - people will become even more negative. Remember 2021 was a very exciting season, last year wasn't too dominant and so people aren't getting too upset yet...
I like that. I gotta say though, for me it's Mercedes operations that were the weakest link by far. So many examples of them f**king up and Lewis & Valtteri's performances masked it.
@@TommoOnUA-cam Yeah, people say Max hasn't put a foot wrong, but the reality is that he's never had to push in the last 10 races because Red Bull is fast at every single track unlike Merc in 2017-2021, and Red Bull practically never makes operational mistakes or poor strategy decisions, so yeah.. Not really a fair comparison between the two drivers whatsoever. And that is not to mention the difference in strength of Max's and Lewis' teammates, which is simply massive
The entire point of 10 wins in a row is how hard it is. You can never make a mistake, like Hamilton did in the Brazil and Europe GP. You can't have bad luck, like Malaysia and Italy. And you can't have a bad day like Australia. These examples just underline the magnitude of Verstappens achievement. Toto Wolff is just a very petty guy that can't handle failure.
@@johannesgutsmiedl366 the greatness of someone is determined by the way they handle defeat. Do they take it gracefully, and as a lesson to improve or will they lash out and blame others. You can have the will to win without being a petty baby.
@@janvisser4132 nah greatness is determined by your own achievements not by how good you are at congratulating others on theirs... I'm sure they're spending plenty of time looking at what they can learn from red bull, but they have no obligation to publically celebrate their main rival. F1 isn't exactly a sport where people are typically gracious in defeat.
Easy to get 10 when you have no competition whatsoever in a dominant car. Lewis had competition he had WC competition in fact.. nico vettel Alonso... meanwhile max when he had competition he lost to DR twice. Also funny how you don't mention horners none stop crying for nearly a decade yet want to pick on toto 😂
14:20 If I remember correctly, there was a sign at the exit of the Parabolica which was showing that the pit lane was closed however Lewis missed it so you can say it was also partly driver fault
There was. But do I think 99% of drivers in that instance would just listen to their team and come in regardless? Absolutely. Once you get the call from your team, you can forgive any driver for coming in. The timing was perfectly imperfect for Lewis.
@@jakem5039 when your team tells you to box, you don’t end up looking at signs on track which you can easily miss, unless it’s a red flag or a yellow flag. Those can’t be missed as they’re literally on the car itself.
i think it's because of the ruthlessness (that i like) from max verstappen, he's like "oh I'm fastest on the grid, screw it I'm gonna win every race." whereas other champions would just coast after winning like 3-4 races (in a row)
Ruthlessness, invulnerability and consistency. Max has more of that then any driver I have seen in decades. Max gets closer to that peak and level and stays there longer than everyone else, for me that's why he's the best out there right now and will remain so for a long time.
Lewis usually checks out when he wins the title. I think it's more about the mindset. Vettel and Verstappen were ruthless with dominant cars. Vettel had 15/19 poles in 2011 which is ridiculous and 9 wins in a row. He set the record for biggest gap between P1 and P2 in championships. Now Max is breaking records with the dominant car. It's the mindset of I am taking every scrap that there is even if I am going to win the championship anyway. Some people need to separate mindset from ability.
Ehh, so if Rosberg didn't force Hamilton onto the grass ant took both out, he could've won 8? Good to know. Although the argument is not quite as strong when what caused it not to happen was entirely within his control
Toto was given a team setup by Ross Brawn and reaped the benefits of other peoples hard work. Now he's getting a taste of what F1 can be like and what other teams have felt over the years. How you handle your losses says more about your character than your wins.
You're incorrect here, Ross Brawn salvaged the mess of Honda and managed to win a world title using the double diffuser. By the time other teams figured out the double diffuser loophole. Brawn GP was far into the points. On paper Brawn GP looks amazing, advanced or whatever because of the WDC and WCC. But technology wise it wasn't as advanced as other title winning teams like Ferrari, Redbull or McLaren. That doesn't mean the Ross Brawn wasn't great, he bought an either fucking team and shouldered it himself for an year. Not to mention he likely has the biggest dick in F1 history. Toto Wolff might be salty, but he is nothing to scoff at. He played a huge part in building Mercedes that won 8 world titles.
this is just my thought but i think Niki dying was where it ended for merc...he was the standard quality control on EVERYTHING...now i bet they have a bunch of yesmen up there
In the end the difference is most likely because Lewis often had slow season starts and offdays from time to time. Max has been like a machine and hasnt put a foot wrong in forever.
Well, he hasn't had to push, because he's had no competition from within the team, and Red Bull doesn't make mistakes like Merc did, Red Bull doesn't have off-races or tracks they're slow at unlike Mercedes on tracks like Monza, Singapore, Monaco, etc. It's exceptionally rare for drivers to make mistakes when they're not pushing, so your comment is not really saying a lot
@@VENO5407it's not entirely on the driver "not pushing" as you mentioned Redbull has not had any team errors, and their car (or at least Max's car) seems to perform at any circuit. If your argument is only about "driver not pushing" then why Hamilton didnt have the most consecutive wins in 2020?
@@matinknight9527 yes you are exactly right, even my own comment indirectly implied the answer. It was more of a rhetorical question to the first replier that his comment also "is not really saying a lot"
Good stats there, mate. I feel that Toto and Lewis diminishing Max and Red Bull like that is beneath them. Why say anything other than "Not bad. We'll aim to stop that streak!"
@@eminamahmutagic2650 if you think redbull and horner have been respectful to mercedes during their dominance, you're either new to f1, biased or you're disingenuous.
Just adding: If RB didn't underfuel Max during quali in Singapore he would have probably matched the 9 win record in 2022 already (France - Mexico). And - as a big and arguable ask - if RB didn't mess up the setup in Brazil it could have extended to 12 until Bahrain '23.
if they had, he wouldn't have started on poll anyway. he didn't have enough fuel to finish the lap and come back around which is a sporting penalty. he would have started in 10th I belive.
Remember in Jeddah he had the drveshaft issue in qualifying, and got up to P2 very close behind Perez in the race. So without that, ad his win at the following race in Australia, he would have had a whopping 14 race win streak, plus a 10 win streak immediately afterwards and 29 wins in 33 races (could have been 31/33 if Perez hadn't crashed in Q3 at Monaco and he didn't get the damage in Silverstone).
@@freakysnuke2571 to be fair, fuel wasn't the explicit reason given by RBR. But the evidence points to that being the reason, if my memory serves. But many believe that's why he was called in. And it's the only real reason.
So many races you mentioned tommo. Lewis had off days. Max simply doesn't have off days. Consistency of max is off charts. No mistake from max side since last year 🙌 just 1 spin during race in Hungary and came near to crash in miami last year. And only 1 mistake from RB last year in Singapore. Both team and max are bulletproof. Thats make this combination what it is.
Vettel had 9 in a row. Rosberg achieved 7 in a row. Neither are considered better than Lewis Hamilton. Winning more consecutive races in a row doesn't mean one driver is better than the other.
@@oransjballthat’s just not true. Perez proves that. His car his nowhere near a second faster, especially at this point in the season. Both Ferrari’s were within a tenth last race and the same has been true for McLaren a couple races back. If we account for Perez’s times, the reality is there are races where the RB has been slower in qualifying and equalled in the race. Max just makes it look that easy
I agree. This insane level Red Bull are currently at is definitely BECAUSE of the Mercedes dominance. They didn't always have the raw pace due to their crap engine most years and so instead focussed on aerodynamic excellence and operational perfection. Now that they have the fastest car too, no-one can get close. They, as a team, make significantly less mistakes than the other teams, have the fastest pitstops etc., and it really is on the other teams to not only create a faster car but also to become far less sloppy operationally. Even with a similarly fast car (think Leclerc at the start of 2022), all of the other teams would currently drown over the course of a season, as Ferrari did.
The relentless pace of 21 is a big part of why max is so consistent now. MB are why RB are so driven to dominate… and it burns them that they can’t just spend to catch back up
What makes Max's win streak so impressive is that, not only is it obviously the highest ever, but he's had to overcome a fair bit of adversity like starting P9 in Miami whilst his teammate was on pole and starting P6 in Spa which is stuff that Vettel didn't have to deal with. And yes he had the fastest car but so did Checo who started ahead those two races and I think people underrate Checo a bit because Max is doing a number on him. In my opinion, Checo on Bottas' level when he was Lewis' teammate. Also, you mentioned everything coming together for a win streak including luck. If it wasn't for the engine problem in Saudi qualifying and safety car timing in Baku, Max could've won *all* the races this season so far, making his win streak even bigger.
Stop lying Bottas never had troubles in qualifying like that 5 in row Checo just had a few races ago. He had wins where he won on the stregth of his pace not relying on Lewis's misfortunes like Checo has this year.
Lewis used to have a number of stinker races every year, he never had a seasonal record but only total wins and poles accumulated across 17 years and having the best car for 10 of them which shows consistently over the years but not dominance race to race.
he also had teammates that kept him competitive and made him take risks in several races that Max has not had to do this season. He's beating Checo by wide margins as well. Not since last season have we seen Max and Checo fighting for any position. Tommo comments several times about Lewis' mistakes in races while trying to get around teammates as well as reliability and rules differences
@@trebm3 5 out of Lewis's 7 titles were against Bottas and Kovalainen and the remaining two against Roseberg who is a great driver, the issue is Max would destroy all of them. Nico himself considers Max to be far better than himself and is top 5 all time.
Realistically, every year at Merc, bar 2019 ish (Ferrari engine) and 2020. He has always had a competition for wins. 2014 - Nico, 2015 - Nico, 2016 - Nico, 2017 - Seb, 2018, 2021 - Max.
@@oldschool8330Yep?! This is quite laughable, especially 2020 which saw the greatest car in F1 History, Ferrari has just lost 30kmh and his teammate was Bottas. 2008, 2011, 2012 and 2016 are at best all the seasons were he had competition hé himself took seriously.
@@gandalf_thegrey Yes, but we didn't see the 2020 car racing at other circuits. Now, given the state of the car, I'd say they would have been dominant everywhere, but the 2019 car was unsuitable for some tracks and it showed.
@@EdwardElfigo If you allow your teammate to beat you 7 times in a row, it doesn't mean your teammate is an all time great, it means your teammate is driving better than you. The reason checo looks bad is because max makes him look bad. Hamilton never made his teammates look bad.
@doghat1619 Max is an incredible driver but it isn’t Max making Checo look bad, it’s Checo struggling to make it into Q3 and binning the car while being beaten consistently by the likes of Alonso, Leclerc, Hamilton etc when you have the most dominant car in the history of the sport. Checo currently is not close to Rosberg, or Bottas in their Merc days. Also on the days checo is doing well e.g. Zaandvort, the team purposely undercut him so Max is not under pressure by his team mate even on the rare occasions checo is performing. Hence why they were so apologetic to Max when Checo won in Baku.
@@doghat1619 The same Hamilton that was tied with 2-time world champion Alonso in his first season? He made a multi-world champion look like a doss, even though he wasn't. Short-term memory mate. Hamilton has made his teammates look "bad" with all the championships he has won alongside racing with them, period. You can appreciate both Max and Lewis without brushing over any of their achievements. You fans are crazy af
I'm wondering how many Senna or Prost could have won in a row in 1988 or 1989 without the other as a teammate (if they'd had someone like Johansson in the other car). Even the Monza loss was partially caused by Prost pushing Senna too hard as he knew his car wouldn't last! Probably too much unreliability to be better than 10 though.
He just had more competition realistically. He either had Rosberg or Ferrari and Occasionally red bull able to fight for the win depending on the track. The Mercedes has been dominant in the past but it's not as bullet proof as the current red bull.
It’s amazing that this feat is rare with all the dominant eras of F1. There’s a perfect storm where the field isn’t close to Redbull and Perez isn’t Rosberg or Bottas.
Simple answer really. Max has the perfect combination: Skill,Consistency,Car,Mechanics,Team. Lewis had the same & still wasn't able to do it. It's just Max's mentality, turn up to every race & push to the max & care about the individual week result then worry about the rest later.
I'd argue Red Bull's operations are clear of Mercedes. Look at how many times they f**ked over Lewis (Italy, Russia) and George (Sakhir) in 2020. No way Red Bull pull that nonsense.
@@TommoOnUA-cam To be fair Red Bull did pull that nonsense on Ricciardo in Monaco which cost him the win, but it is true that they rarely drop the ball.
@@TommoOnUA-cam I’m inclined to agree.RB are definitely more consistent when it comes to strategy, pit stops etc. Which makes the difference when you are looking at a record that needs consistency. So full credit to Red Bull for being able to do that, just shows that they are on top of their game.
Great video Tommo. I really think the best opportunity was 2020. Lewis was totally in the zone and I still think that’s the most ruthless we’ve seen him. As for Max, from a LH fan, you have to admire the consistency and all out desire to be Number 1 in every single session he takes part in. I’m sure he will still be like that even after he’s confirmed champion this season.
About Lewis’ Penelty in Russia in 2020 there is a funny back story. He got this penalty quite straight away. But same year, in spa, Charles was under investigation for driving his lap to the grid to slow. Ferrari addressed that by telling them, it was because he crossed SC Line 1 too soon due to… practice start in wrong position. FIA Steward said: ah ok then no problem xD
disappointing that whenever someone makes a video about lewis, the haters come piling through with their bias clouding their judgement. great vid tommo as usual
Fact is: People are very pitifull if they call themselves fans and engage in this ridiculous screaming-contest. I'm sorry for my fellow countrymen and the role they play.@@rodsitamara
This puts into context how difficult it is to achieve and how RedBulls and Max's result and considering they were able to do it before as well it must be one thing, they are the peak team of F1. If not for the bad renault engines, Mercedes and Lewis arent winning as many titles as they did or any at all.
the funny part is the mercedes engine was only that ahead of every other engine because mercedes knew ahead of every other manufacturer about the v6 turbo engines
I see that point a lot. But, what's the difference between Mercedes nailing the engine regulations, and Red Bull nailing the aero regulations? Both teams got it right respectively, and deserve the merit for that no?
@@thomasblack33the funny part is you running your mouth about things you have no proof of, all you protect your fragile ego. Actually that’s not funny…it’s sad.
@@TommoOnUA-cam Absolutely, they deserve every success, doesnt matter if it was superior engine, its their ingenutiy that produced it. I am hypothesizing if renault had produced a engine equal to Mercedes, then I'd put my bet on RB to get a good aero package and with equal engine on their side it'll be tough to beat them. Ofcourse these are hypothetical and Mercedes could just have won it regardless but I dont think it would be as many as it was. This scenario would mean Vettel vs Lewis vs Dan Ric vs Nico, would have been epic.
iirc in Australia 2019 Hamilton had a floor issue, which prevented him from getting anywhere near Bottas and was being hounded by Verstappen in the inferior Honda. He still might have not beaten Bottas though, since he had the better start and didn't make any mistakes.
Did I miss any races? Any opportunities where Lewis could've gotten close to 10, if not for things outside his control? lmk xoxo EDIT: Thanks Premiere Pro for randomly dropping images from the export. 👍
I noticed the fade effect and at first I thought it was intentional but then the camera shutter sound came and that’s when I found out it was an editing error, L from Adobe.
Lewis had a chance for 6 in a row in 2017 from Belgium to COTA if not for verstappens Malaysia win Also a chance for 7 in a row in 2016-17 from COTA to Bahrain where he finished 2nd in Australia after a merc strategy error and Bahrain where Lewis got a penalty for blocking in the pits which cost him the win
Lewis never struck me as a win at all cost driver. He always seemed much more focused on the bigger picture of securing the championship, even if that meant playing it safe to secure P2 instead of risking the position just to get a sniff at P1.
So more of a Prost than a Senna, even though it claims Senna to be its hero. In that regard Max is more like Senna, wanting to win everything he can and even grabbing that fastest lap when even remotely possible, leaving nothing but scraps on the table.
Max isn't looking for a win at all costs. He's looking for perfection. He wants to be able to go into a weekend and never have a single error from start to finish while also topping every session. That's his current challenge and that's because there isn't another team that close enough even to challenge the RB19
To me it always seemed like Lewis got bored of dominating and the full time 100% committed racing driver lifestyle fairly quickly. He does so much different things outside of F1. On the other hand, Maxs hobbies are racing, sim racing and more racing. Max is basically a psycho for that level of commitment tbh
Exactly bro. Max has no weaknesses because he has utilised every technique what it takes to drive a f1 car in different conditions. Even in.Baku he was playing around with certain settings and then used what he found for the rest of the season onwards. His adaptability is second to none and right up there with Alonso. Lewis is beneath these two currently. That merc does seem like a handful at times. Anyway max will dominate till the next regs no one can.tough him and hes not even in his prime😂
@@Crukren89sorry but Hamilton adapted more many differents cars and different driving style. Lewis is second to Alonso of having the biggest operating window in the grid. He can drive many setups and still being quick
@@alexlacl8730 Agree to some extent . I haven't forgot about Canada 2012 or Malaysia 2014 where even the team had to dissect what he was doing with his setup , Lewis has a good feel for what the car is doing no one is disputing that but from what ive seen in comparison to max. Max seems to have a better handle on it and im talking about his pace in mercs dominance. aswell. I read a statement from albon saying max's setups are like playing cod with high sensitivity thumb sticks. Thats insane lol and its why drivers have struggled to match him
@@Crukren89 I'm agree. Max has his own setup and has a special driving style that some could adapt but none would be quick. Lewis has a neutral style so he got more challenges
True, Hamilton always said he would have liked the fight to be closer While Max is like, I show up, I win the race, in fact I would like to win by more if possible
Great informative video. Idk what the comments are on but as a LH fan this video reminded me of the close margins, but also highlights how Max & Redbull as a team currently are achieving greatness within the sports. And realistically the streak isn't even done yet
Cheers David! Exactly that, this is a team sport first and foremost. Just like in football, you don't win the golden boot if you don't have somebody assisting you. We always look at it through the lens of individual achievements, but those individual achievements are so disproportionally weighted on the teams around them.
@@TommoOnUA-camclearly hurt by Lewis comments. Lewis never ever got help from the fia unlike golden boy. Lewis didn’t tell no lies he said he faces world champion & drove with them as teammates. What about your boy not once. Redbull & Verstapphen will always been seen as cheaters. Don’t forget that Tommo in your next video. Nice one
@@bizzle3163 Lulu got no help from the FIA, tell me you don't follow F1 without telling me. The very reason 2021 went to the last race is because the FIA constantly helped lulu/merc that season and shafted Max/RB every time in doing so. If the FIA had done their job properly, Max would have been champion multiple races before the end. Lulu tells no lies? Ha, lulu is at the center of lie-gate, lying to the stewards after a race. And no, RB and Max never cheated, it was merc that cheated, you idiot.
Was this a fantasy world, I would want Max to win 8 WDC in a row, then after being asked how does he feel about breaking the SCH/HAM overall wins (and consecutive), he would reply "It's just for wikipedia." and then proceed to drop the mic and retire on the spot with 2 races to go.
What makes you think the RB19 is dominant? Wache himself (technical director at RB) said how he thinks the RB19 is above average, but not particularly great. If you look at Perez, it's quite clear what he means. It's Max that dominates, not necessarily the car.
@@TommoOnUA-cam To be fair all the other teams stopped developing the 2013 car in the summer break, which caused the RedBull dominance. I'd say Seb definitely had a less dominant car in the first half of the season, but the 2nd half of the season the RedBull was more dominant than the current RedBull is. Mark Webber went from occasional podiums to consistent podiums after the summer break, whereas Perez hasn't been able to replicate that either during Max' winning streak.
Because that Red Bull-Max combo is a great combo and depends on the team and dominance over the teammate.. Since Seb's was also in a Newey-designed Red Bull, maybe the combo is Newey-Red Bull.
Whilst Mercs dominance during that period is unquestionably there was always an issue. During the period where the merc was clear Hamilton could easily have got 10 wins on the bounce he had class teammate in Rosberg to fight with. Then when Rosberg was out of the picture Ferrari was close enough to fight for race wins and even red bull could fight for wins. Whilst the Merc was dominant it was not as bullet proof as the current red bull. That merc car always had specific tracks where it just seemed slower for one reason or another. Also another huge factor is reliability. A couple of years ago assuming there may be mechanical failure or issue at some point wouldn't be outlandish. Present day mechanical failures (Unless you're Alpine) are out of the ordinary. Particularly from the top teams. You'd need either a perfect storm of good reliability or a car so good you can turn down the engine whilst still being the dominant force on track. A month or so ago I compared this current although shorter era of max dominance to Lewis' and found that there were more different race winners from different teams during Lewis' era over the course of the first five rounds of the season. So this Red Bull + Max Package with no teammate and no teams able to develop a car that's even close is just something else.
I think it is because, the consistency just wasn't as high as it is now. how many DNF's have there been this year due to problems with the car? it feels like all the cars have gotten more reliable due to the cost cap. And even this season there we're races were max could've gotten a bad result. But he is just so consistent and won't allow it to happen. Even if he doesn't start on pole.
@@RhomasTotevenaar Yeah, cars suffering from bad reliability is just unheard of now. Go back to before 2018 and a car was retiring every race due to engine trouble. When is the last time anyone has lost positions due to engine or gearbox penalties???
Id love a version of this for some of the other dominant runs. Maybe Michael? Vettel? Could Vettel have gotten 10+ wins possibly? Any other dominant runs that could have matched or equaled this this record. Maybe you could even analyze the two other 9 race wins in a row and tell us why they werent more, or possibly what were the circumstances that led them to the 9 in the first place?
We are all watching history and once finished we probably will never see this amount of wins in a row again. I know it can get boring but lets give credit where credit is due. I am just having more fun now hoping Max wins.
Thank u so much for doing the research! I swear whenever I ask myself stuff like this but I’m too lazy to do the work, you post & lay out all the things I’ve wondered/wanted/needed.
2020 would’ve probably been the record breaking year for Hamilton, he got 11 wins from 17 races, if it followed the regular season he would’ve probably beat the most wins record and maybe even the win streak
The difference is that Lewis actually had a teammate in the same zip code. Even Seb had troubles because they didn't even have the best car. Max breaking the record is cool but idk that it has the same weight
All of the records "wont have the same weight" the moment someone takes them off of Hamilton. If anybody gets more wins all of a sudden the growing calendar will be a big talking point as if it's not the only reason Hamilton has more wins than Schumacher.
@@ronmastrio2798 As if Schumacher didn't had a useless teammate (Barrichello) during his 5 years of pure domination while Lewis had Rosberg between 2014-2016...
The difference between Max and Lewis is for each of Lewis's streak, there was some form of driver error that broke it. Max didn't have that this season.
answer: 1.) FIA tire pressure limit change at 70A Grand Prix, 2.) FIA makes a decision to close the pit lane right before Ham arrived at Italian GP, 3. 2x 5second penalty for irrelevant reasons (not right place to practice starts) That's why. End of the story.
The only reason Lewis doesn't a 20 wins streak is because he had competitive teammates who can sneak a win from him... Meanwhile all the teammates of Verstappen were 2nd grade drivers who only there to block other drivers and helping Verstappen rather than competing for the win.
Are you serious? What a nonsense, are Ricciardo and Perez 2nd grade drivers? And why is Albon now so emblazoned? And was Bottas such great driver? "to block other drivers" "? You are a good asset to the MERC and HAM childisch whiners. VER prooves again and again he is a real champion and HAM just a spoiled childsh showboat and whiner.
You have a valid point. But, If max and Lewis were teammates, do you really think Lewis would beat him over the season? Lewis had the faster car in 21 but lost to Max. Lewis equal points with Alonso in 2007 (alonso had more DNFs), beaten by Button in 2011, Rosberg in 2016, Russell in 2022. Max (excluding his mid season in the swap with Kyviat) from 2015 at 17 years old, beat Sainz , Ricciardo, Gasly, Albon and Perez, and in most cases demolished them. I don’t think any driver can beat max in the same car over a season. He is consistently driving at a top level that others cannot match. He was built and moulded to be a champion from a young age by his father. No other driver had this type of training, and on top of the talent, it is unbeatable. I genuinely think only prime Michael Schumacher would have a chance to beat Max in the same car) Also, Max is achieving this level since about 22 years old. Now at 25, maybe he has still not peaked. Phenomenal. Unparalleled. Unbeatable.
I just don't think you can compare as all careers are very unique in different ways Lewis of course had a huge advantage with that merc in 2014 to 2020 but he also had a very very competetive teammate in Rosberg up to 2016 2017 and 2018 you had Ferrari very strong in some races too Max in that RB19 is just coasting with no competitors
when max hd his debut every driver on the grid expressed their surprised feelings that at this age he's hired as an F1 driver, but not vettel... he said obviously their is something that made then hire him... he knew
I'll be frank. It's not going to be 10 streak, but at least 14 or 15 with massive IF. Max will do it IF and only IF RB can perform well and they correctly put enough fuel on Max's car on Singapore. Afther that, easy as taking a candy from a baby.
Despite their dominance Mercedes always have a huge strategic clanger from time to time. Add in the fact Lewis had quick teammates it would be very difficult to get 10 in a row.
When people asks Toto avout stats, he always replies saying they don't matter. He celebrates many stats but every time he is directly asked, he says it doesn't matter. It's not only Max, it's Lewis, Rosberg and sometimes even Bottas too.
It's simple, really. From the McLaren days, for every win Ham had, Vet, Web, Alo, Mas, But had atleast 5-7 wins combined which never allowed him to build a streak. From the Rosberg Merc era, for every 5 wins Ham had, there were 2 Ros wins, all hard fought. From the Bottas era, for every 10 wins Ham had, Bot, Ric, Ver, Vet had atleast 4 wins combined, which is quite a big interruption for a 10 win streak. I'm a Lewis fan, I won't deny it so my opinion might be slightly biased. Ever since last year, max and the car are performing at a level where no one can deny him a victory. Ferrari is Ferrari, merc takes 1 step forward 2 steps back in development, McLaren and Aston are peaky in terms of performance because the cars are very track specific while Perez has mentally checked out after 2021 abu dhabi. The average gap between max and Perez is huge and it's all because of skill issue. RB doesn't even need team orders because max is clearly playing the field on 0 difficulty. He is just that good. Now give the grid 5 RBs, one to max, Alonso, Hamilton, Norris and Charles each and watch how his 10 win streak becomes a dream because while he may be getting the better of them usually, 10 wins in a row would be clearly impossible as the others are just that good too. No matter how much Hamilton haters deny, Lewis did have strong competition and was on his toes for 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2021. I can say that yes, 2014, 2019 and 2020 weren't that big competitively and Lewis could just lay back and relax which he did. Max doesn't lay back and relax. No matter how many times he says he is not chasing records, the way he drives clearly shows that his performance on the track matters most, even if the championship is wrapped by the summer break itself. He will not leave space, he will not make mistakes. He will push himself to the max (pun intended). We can look at 2022 Brazil for example where he had nothing to lose by conceding a place to check and give him a helping hand in the championship for second place but he wouldn't do it. Even if it was for a single point! It's a beige flag for me, I respect the determination and drive but sometimes he can be a bit too much, that's just my opinion. Hence, it's all down to the driver. Hamilton will lay back and relax if he sees that his championship is wrapped up and he has no reason to not let Bottas by from P6 to P7 if he was in that situation. Max isn't like him. It's just the completely opposite personalities colliding. The fanbases will ofcourse make a big deal out of it and everything, but I feel Lewis just doesn't care about this record enough, he cares about the 8th more and that's what he chases. I respect Lewis' decision to not care and give a damn and I also respect max for caring and having that grit until the last second of the last lap of the last race.
If he doesn't care why did he make that statement about him having better teammates then max, it just feels like he wants to be in the news to me (it clearly worked lol).
Monaco alonso could have won and Canada, the Ferraris had the best race pace. Yes, the races pre 2021 that max and other drivers won were because they had similar, if not better pace than the mercs but the same can be said for some of the races this season as well. Lets also not pretend checo is a bad driver, he was matching if not outpacing max in the two races he won this year; what changed was max using the Baku race as a huge free practice session to finetune his car and since then, he's always been very comfortably faster than Sergio. Max is just more consistent and as ruthless a racer that we've seen in decades. People, the British in particular, need to accept and appreciate greatness when they see it and stop playing this childish game of "what if?"
In the 2019 Australian Gp : A section of the left-rear portion of the floor on his Mercedes was damaged during the race. The damage occurred on lap four
Back when Lewis was the class of the field, there was Red Bull, Ferrari and his teammate regularly taking wins off him, so I'm amazed he managed to get as far as he did, 5 in a row. The field was more competitive back then. Can't discredit what Max is doing though. Like 2021, I am thankful to be witnessing what I am witnessing and I hope at least some of you are... It's mad to think I might have the opportunity to tell future fans, I watched an F1 season whereby a single team won every single race. Insane...
In terms of a pace advantage Mercedes were further ahead than Red Bull now, just seems the way it's delivered now is far more consistent with no teams having better strategies or better wet weather cars which happened then
@@jakem5039u have no idea I think. Mercedes were not so upfront in races in 2017 to 19. 2014 to 16 Nico was there. I will give u an e.g 1. Miami : Sergio lost to max starting from p9. If there was Nico rosberg he would have won that race by over 20s. 2.Lax got penalty spa. If Nico was present he would have won. See max didn't do anything wrong in Miami or spa but his teammate is trash who was beaten many times by stroll. If Lewis had Perez type of teammate during merc serious domination like rb in 14 to 16. Then Lewis would have won more than 10 races continuously.
I'd say 2020 was the only year Lewis had a Verstappen 2023 level of complete dominance over the field. But Red Bull have been way more impressive in their operations in 2023 than Mercedes were in 2020.
I think this also showed that yes mercedes was a strong team otherwise they wouldn't have build so many dominant cars between 2014-2020, but on the strategic side they weren't so great. Remember for example Germany 2019 and Sahkir 2020. Red Bull is dominant on all fronts: fastest pitstops, best strategy and fastest car ofcourse.
They say records are made to be broken, but i seriously can’t take another season of outright obliteration of all competition that led to this. I hope his record is never broken and stands as an example of how financial and sporting regulations failed to deliver a competitive season.
sporting regulations will NEVER deliver a competitive season, unless you introduce arbitrary punishments for success, like reverse grid races. Every time the technical regulations change, some teams do better than others.
Even as a Verstappen fan I would like actual competition. But I disagree on the sporting regulations failing. Since the new rules all teams except Red Bull have come way closer to another. This season we have seen Aston Martin, Mercedes, Mclaren and Ferrari as the second team. I didn't see that in 2015-2020. It's just Red Bull that ahead. And while I believe that Peres underdelivers with that car, he struggles an awful lot. So there is also the Verstappen factor. Not that RB doesn't have the fasted car, but Verstappen makes it look worse than it is.
When you give teams freedom as much as F1 does, someone might make the dominant car that will crush the competition. Especially in the first yearbor two of new regulations. Let these regulations stay stable for 3-4 seasons and the others will catch up. Also, the grid as a whole is closer together than ever
Thank you for the video Tommo, it's nice to go back to recent years to see how little moments shaped entire seasons of T-posing tier dominance 💁🏻♂️💪🏼🏆. P.S: Nico Rosberg was about to get his 7th win streak if not for Lewis crashing into him at T4 in (S)pain 💀👍🏼...
At this point I feel pretty confident that Max's streak won't be ended by anything to do with him, either some reliability or team/strategy issue for sure, we'll see how well this comment ages lol
There's no one on the grid that can take the fight to Max, he has no competition which in turns makes it easy to focus on driving on the limit consistently. He's not chasing anyone on the grid but he's chasing the perfect time.
To be fair Hamilton was battling Riccardo, Vettel, Alonso, Massa, Button, Nico and etc. Those were the guys he was usually trading wins with. Max isn't battling any veterans or world champions during his reign aside from Alonso and Hamilton
The current top end of the field is pretty stacked. Like sure they aren't necessarily veteran world champions but their skill ceiling is easily as high when they're having a good day. Leclerc, Norris, Sainz, Piastri, Russell, even Perez (when its a track that fits his driving style at least) could all put up a fight if something happened to Verstappen.
@@AegrusYT The current grid is mad talented, but they're just not like the guys I mentioned. There were more champions back then. Now it's just Lewis and Alonso. Alonso is in a "new" team that is still finding its footing and Lewis is in a car that is way behind since they got the whole concept wrong. I am not discrediting Max, I'm just seeing it how it is. The guys you mentioned are all great, but they are still often taking themselves out of the race or getting into accidents. It's too early to hop on the Piastri train so I have no comment there
One thing I remember about Max is how he prepares his car. His car is purposefully oversteery, very heavy in the front to make it very responsive and agile and then he dances with the car through the corners. No one was able to control a car with his setup(not even his father likes it when they drive in a team). So I'm not sure if someone would be able to beat him in equal machinery, if he's this different than others in a sense that he makes the car be on the edge of its performance all the time.
Actually Schumacher and Hamilton predominantly in his early career used to set up the car in exactly this way. When Merc shifted to a longer wheelbase it no longer became as efficient so Hamilton adapted away slightly. Anyway.
Just to add, the changing point was 2012 for many drivers. Tyres were fragile as heck then (Maldonado even won a race of course) with Hamilton lamenting on the radio he couldn't drive any slower, and Vettel driving like a grandma. That put pay to really pointy cars that would mash rear tyres. I think Hamilton changed at that point, and once the tyres became more durable he never quite got that pointy driving back for the reasons above. Interesting. Also interesting is that Alonso drives completely differently to these two!
Max getting 10 is impressive but not that impressive when you break it down. You a have teammate underperforming, best car ever built, no break downs, no other car is anywhere close to RedBull. Creates the perfect scenario to achieve 10+ wins in a season.
Nico rosberg has a better consecutive win record of 7 in a shorter career time with Lewis as his teammate. Lewis didn't even come close to breaking Nico's record lol
@@Duval-In-The-Wall @Duval-In-The-Wall exactly and what's even crazy is Sebastian made those records in 4 years on top of which Alonso was on God mode for 2 years 2010 & 12. So only 2 years of fastest machinery. To make it even crazier there were 6 different champions on the grid. But Lewis fans will still make excuses bro. That's why I don't consider him the fastest F1 driver.
@@oldschool8330 why are you down playing Nico's achivement? Lewis had 10 years in championship winning machinery and bottas as his teammate for the majority of the years with no competition.
Ultimately Lewis always had some form of competition whether from rosberg or Ferrari. Max doesn’t have any competition making it a lot easier. Australia 2019, Lewis had floor damage as well 2020 was the best shot but Mercedes blunders cost him the chance. They didn’t change the setup for the 70th anniversary race and caused the tyres to over heat and they boxed him in Italy when the pit lane was closed and then Russia off … basically merc was the reason in 2020 lol Max’s win record is an impressive stat, but it’s more of a vanity stat, a stat that sounds and looks good but isn’t a significant stat like wins, poles, championships or anything
You're making it out as if both the red bulls are leading each race by 30+ seconds but in reality it is only max that's so far ahead of the competition which makes it even more impressive. I am telling you now put lewis in this red bull and he wouldn't be as dominant as max is.He'll maby win 6 or 7 in a row but definitely not 10
@@infinite_h1767 you’ve just emphasised the point I was making. The fact that both red bulls aren’t always leading and Checo is always fighting in the midfield or going out in Q1/Q2 means max doesn’t have another car as fast as his to contend with. If you put Lewis in the red bull with Max, Lewis isn’t getting 10 in a row, but neither is Max
The wins and poles stat will become insignificant the moment someone who isn't Lewis has them because of all the races they've added to the calendar. Let's just not mention how many wins and poles Schumacher would have if he got 20 races a year with modern reliability like Lewis had had. Let's also not think about how many titles Schumacher or Verstappen might have if he gets to drive 10 seasons in the fastest car on the grid. Simply put Lewis is the most privileged driver in F1 history and his fans have no right to complain about anyone else having a performance advantage.
@@ronmastrio2798wins and pole stats have always been useless since day one. Schumacher was driving in more races per year as someone from the 70s. Lewis was driving in more races than Schumacher. Max will continue to drive in more races than Lewis in the future. It is what it is. That’s why f1 can’t have a goat. The sport is always evolving and you can’t make comparisons between any driver at this point.
I think number of races in a season matter too esp for years with more car dominance or when the driver clicks with the car or is on form. Great helpful video thanks!
Because Lewis teammates were allowed to challenge him. At redbull,,,they won't allow max teammates to challenge him. Look at how angry they were when Perez last beat max.
It's hard when you have Alonso, Rosberg, Button etc as teammates. Rosbergs one title holds a lot of weight due to beating Hamilton in the same car. Even Sennas over Prost.
Go ahead and make it 7-3 max is 26 F1 drivers can race till there late 30s and sometimes into there 40s max has 15 years to get 4 more titles tell me with a straight face that Lewis is actually better even when Lewis was dominating it wasn’t bye this much it’s clearly a skill issue on Lewis’s side
Lewis would have 10 if he was as good as you seem to think he his. He's had 10 seasons in the fastest car on the grid and choked the championship in 3 of those years. Could you imagine if Schumacher or Verstappen got 10 years in a rocketship like Lewis had?
To me toto is crazy because he basically says that statistics dont matter by saying wikipedia doesnt matter, meanwhile i would argue that the biggest reason someone has for lewis to be their goat (he isnt mine its senna the schumacher instead) is that lewis has tge best statistics out of any driver partly due to being great but also due to longevity which can sometimes help choose you goat but if toto says stats dont matter by saying wikipedia doesnt matter then he is indirectly reducing the greatness of his own driver
Realistically 2020 was the only season he didn´t have a teammate nor a driver from another team who where a threat to him. That´s the most similar season to the current one for Max. Alonso, Nico, Vettel, the 2019 rollercoaster of teams having the advantage and Max from 2021 have all been big obstacles who interrupted his streak several times.
Austria was the race where I was genuinely impressed by Red Bull and Max. The weather was so chaotic, there were crashes and yellow flags, but they secured the win nonetheless. With such chaos, there can be a completely random podium, like Monza 2020. For me, Austria is proof that this winning streak is nowhere near its end, this team and Verstappen really blow it out of the water right now.
Considering how much has to go right into winning 10 races in a row, yes Max is an absolute talent, but it's arguably more of a Red Bull achievement than it is "just" Max driving really well. The team and Max are just an incredibly well-oiled machine. F1 right now has a roster of incredible drivers, but without the right team behind them, well...
For completion you actually have to do the same for other drivers. For instance Max would like already have a nine wins in a row if RB didn’t make the mistake in qualifying in Singapore 2022. Max already was on the fastest lap when he was told to abort to make another even faster lap afterwards that also was aborted. This case was an RB error
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During their years of domination, strategy has often been Mercedes' weakness, allowing for Red Bull to beat them a few times per season. This is what makes the current Reb Bull team so scary: they are the best at everything: car, reliability, tire wear, strategy, pit stops. I can easily see Max win 15+ in a row
He has 15 top 2's in a row already, with 13 wins. 1 seconds place was due to a team error in qualifying, and another was due to a setup error during the race.
He's also already had a chance for 9 in a row if not for another qualifying error by the team in Singapore last year.
Only Brazil last year looked weak on multiple fronts for Red Bull during that entire streak.
Exactly this.
yep. agreed. strategy and luck. even with inferior car, max, seb, charles, daniel and other can stole some wins from the dominant merc in 2014-2020 with even a little bit of luck and decisive strategy call. the most recent example i think like monza 2020 where luck and blunder enabled a midfielder to stole the wins from lewis
this is not the case in current season. even with some wild circumstances that could mix the grid up, max still win. monaco, sprint in spa and zandvoort for example. with wildly changing weather, max still win. that's not the case with lewis' dominant era
There's also the point that - even when the Mercedes was fantastic, it wasn't bulletproof and had weaknesses at certain tracks. There aren't weaknesses there in that Red Bull.
@@MKhrome well, in Saudi his gearbox died on him
The most unbelievable part of this all is that Ascari's 1950s car managed to go 9 races in a row without blowing up🙃
No mate your joking
Or dying
It's true, but they officialy didn't count the indy 500 race as a official f1 race
Those day tgey did the engine over after each race and wasn't strictly monitored.
@@lindsayjoshua6207 Those days, a driver could take his team mate's car mid race to finish the race...
Toto Wolff has more salt right now than a McDonald’s large fries
Will put Maldon out of business.
Damn so not a lot of salt then
@@Hexziwas just thinking this 😂
Mad that max breaks a record but they have to make a video of excuses for Lewis to appease his fans
Keep your day job
The thing that Max and prime Seb had in common is their ruthlessness. Every race is a must-win, regardless of if you've already wrapped up the championship or you're being Multi-21'd.
At the risk of sounding like Will Buxton, they have the longest win streaks because winning is the only acceptable option for them.
This. Out of all the teams on the grid, Red Bull are the ones who tolerate nothing short of excellence and are perfection-seekers
I mean in an ideal world; ALL teams should not be happy with anything other than a win.
Ron Dennis always said he feels pain when his team didn't win a race. If that goes for Toto too I hope he has a huge supply of painkillers
You're not wrong. It's a mentality thing with these guys and has to do with the dutch/german ethos.
@@oreofudgeman be carefully with statements like those...
If those races where Lewis didn't win didn't happen. Lewis would have a 103 race win streak.
If Lewis had won every race he didn’t win, he would have a 322 win streak
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Yes exactly, there’s no point in saying “if that didn’t happen” in case of mistakes from the driver and team because guess what, they did happen. I do understand in terms of Lewis getting COVID but for all that other stuff, either the driver or the team wasn’t as good as max verstappen and redbull. It’s not an individual record, it’s a team effort.
@@danbruh33 Yeah, but you can't blame Lewis for not winning races where his team screws up, so it's still a completely fair argument. If all bad things out of his control hadn't happened, he would probably have a win streak around 15 or more
@@VENO5407 its not a valid argument. its a team sport, not an individual sport. Lewis is part of the team. I mean without all the good things Merc did, Lewis would not have his 7 titles.
Same goes for Max/RB naturally
Simply put, max and redbull are bulletproof if they have a good car like in this season. Max’s consistency even when he doesn’t have the fastest car every race is crazy, especially 2020 onwards. Redbull gives max the best strategies to maximise the result and max gets every bit of performance out of the car without making any mistakes. Lewis came close in 2020 but the team wasn’t as perfect as redbull.
Yeah, Merc has always been poor strategically and operationally, and that makes all the difference. Especially when their cars were not nearly as good as the RB, which happened from time to time as Merc has always had off-tracks unlike RB such as Singapore and Monaco in 2017-2021 for example
Exactly. And the failure during the virtual safety car (not the safety car) to make use of the Free pit stop they had in Abu Dhabi 2021 after Max pitted, might have cost Lewis hiw 8th WDC.
Didn’t have the gap but Mercedes usually masters strategy while Ferrari usually are the team to mess it up.
Perfectly and simply put. 😎
@@ausriusdidziokas6771 Mercedes is KNOWN for being poor at strategy too. It's just been less visible and less talked about because they used to have a car that was so fast it was immaterial for about a decade. They just never had to learn to master the strategy game, and they still haven't.
At this point I'm just expecting him to win the rest of the races this season and RedBull getting a clean sweep. And although I'm a Ferrari fan I'm not even mad about it, can't help but admire the accomplishment.
Now that he's got the record, I hope somebody else wins. Red Bull winning EVERY race, is too much 😅
@@TommoOnUA-cam Yeah, it's getting a bit too much, but seeing as I reveled in the Schumacher/Ferrari dominance in my teens, I feel like I shouldn't really be complaining too loudly 😅
@@TommoOnUA-cam hey if theyre going for records, might as well go for a mad one. This season is already over in terms of competition anyways
Im not hating so dont translate it as that, but I wonder why when lewis was winning, I never really saw comments like this where it says "I don't even mind, I just appreciate the accomplishment" it was mostly "it's 100% the car% as if it drives itself lol it's just kinda crazy to see the double standards against the 7 time world champion as if he wasn't sitting in the cockpit holding the steering wheel lol
@@justinf4071 Might be because you haven't seen my comments before. I just think it would be very hypocritical to complain about other drivers dominating when you don't complain about your favourite dominating. Which might be a wisdom that comes with age.
Also I think if Max now gets a couple more championships (in addittion to this year, we know he's got it) - maybe even interrupted by a teammate like Rosberg did - people will become even more negative. Remember 2021 was a very exciting season, last year wasn't too dominant and so people aren't getting too upset yet...
it is crazy if you realise how close max actually got to having 15 in a row right now
He was super close to 9 in a row last year already, if it weren't for the fuel mistake in Q3.
saw a quote from someone and its goes like " Mercedes and Lewis were winning year in year out but Max and RB are winning week in week out "
I like that. I gotta say though, for me it's Mercedes operations that were the weakest link by far. So many examples of them f**king up and Lewis & Valtteri's performances masked it.
@@TommoOnUA-cam Yeah, people say Max hasn't put a foot wrong, but the reality is that he's never had to push in the last 10 races because Red Bull is fast at every single track unlike Merc in 2017-2021, and Red Bull practically never makes operational mistakes or poor strategy decisions, so yeah.. Not really a fair comparison between the two drivers whatsoever. And that is not to mention the difference in strength of Max's and Lewis' teammates, which is simply massive
@@VENO5407operational mistakes and pit stops can be worked on it. It’s not set for life
@@VENO5407 Say it louder for the people at the back.
@@marangmatlala6253 For the future, sure, but you can't change the past
The entire point of 10 wins in a row is how hard it is. You can never make a mistake, like Hamilton did in the Brazil and Europe GP. You can't have bad luck, like Malaysia and Italy. And you can't have a bad day like Australia. These examples just underline the magnitude of Verstappens achievement. Toto Wolff is just a very petty guy that can't handle failure.
Still a useful video to explain the history to those who don't know all the details.
if Toto Wolff was a guy who likes being second he wouldn't be where he is right now
@@johannesgutsmiedl366 the greatness of someone is determined by the way they handle defeat. Do they take it gracefully, and as a lesson to improve or will they lash out and blame others. You can have the will to win without being a petty baby.
@@janvisser4132 nah greatness is determined by your own achievements not by how good you are at congratulating others on theirs... I'm sure they're spending plenty of time looking at what they can learn from red bull, but they have no obligation to publically celebrate their main rival. F1 isn't exactly a sport where people are typically gracious in defeat.
Easy to get 10 when you have no competition whatsoever in a dominant car. Lewis had competition he had WC competition in fact.. nico vettel Alonso... meanwhile max when he had competition he lost to DR twice. Also funny how you don't mention horners none stop crying for nearly a decade yet want to pick on toto 😂
The amount of rain and safety cars Max had to deal with during this streak is absolutely insane. I think that should give him even more credit
For sure, looking at Zandvoort alone, it felt like Mother Nature was throwing everything at him, and still he drove an incredible and clean race
Absolutly not.
Also overtaking his way up the grid from 10th, 14th, etc.
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Rain, safety cars, grid drops
14:20 If I remember correctly, there was a sign at the exit of the Parabolica which was showing that the pit lane was closed however Lewis missed it so you can say it was also partly driver fault
There was indeed!!
There was. But do I think 99% of drivers in that instance would just listen to their team and come in regardless? Absolutely. Once you get the call from your team, you can forgive any driver for coming in. The timing was perfectly imperfect for Lewis.
@@jakem5039 when your team tells you to box, you don’t end up looking at signs on track which you can easily miss, unless it’s a red flag or a yellow flag. Those can’t be missed as they’re literally on the car itself.
It was as much on Lewis as his team for sure
There was 2 actually.
i think it's because of the ruthlessness (that i like) from max verstappen, he's like "oh I'm fastest on the grid, screw it I'm gonna win every race." whereas other champions would just coast after winning like 3-4 races (in a row)
He does seem to have an exceptionally cut throat approach to winning. Nobody is more fuming with a P2 than Max IMO.
@@TommoOnUA-cam yup i agree on that, he's definitely one of the most competitive f1 drivers out there
Ruthlessness, invulnerability and consistency. Max has more of that then any driver I have seen in decades. Max gets closer to that peak and level and stays there longer than everyone else, for me that's why he's the best out there right now and will remain so for a long time.
Lewis usually checks out when he wins the title. I think it's more about the mindset. Vettel and Verstappen were ruthless with dominant cars. Vettel had 15/19 poles in 2011 which is ridiculous and 9 wins in a row. He set the record for biggest gap between P1 and P2 in championships. Now Max is breaking records with the dominant car. It's the mindset of I am taking every scrap that there is even if I am going to win the championship anyway. Some people need to separate mindset from ability.
If you ain't first, you're last.
Rosberg likely would of won 8 in a row against Hamilton if they didn’t collide in Spain
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And Mercedes would have had a 21 win streak if not for that (Belgium '15 - Singapore '16)
@user-xj2wg4wl7bhow are you? Hopefully you are a child and you can outgrow your immaturity
Ehh, so if Rosberg didn't force Hamilton onto the grass ant took both out, he could've won 8? Good to know. Although the argument is not quite as strong when what caused it not to happen was entirely within his control
Poois Shitmilton ran rosberg off the road. Its his signature move.
Toto was given a team setup by Ross Brawn and reaped the benefits of other peoples hard work. Now he's getting a taste of what F1 can be like and what other teams have felt over the years. How you handle your losses says more about your character than your wins.
You're incorrect here, Ross Brawn salvaged the mess of Honda and managed to win a world title using the double diffuser. By the time other teams figured out the double diffuser loophole. Brawn GP was far into the points. On paper Brawn GP looks amazing, advanced or whatever because of the WDC and WCC. But technology wise it wasn't as advanced as other title winning teams like Ferrari, Redbull or McLaren.
That doesn't mean the Ross Brawn wasn't great, he bought an either fucking team and shouldered it himself for an year. Not to mention he likely has the biggest dick in F1 history.
Toto Wolff might be salty, but he is nothing to scoff at. He played a huge part in building Mercedes that won 8 world titles.
this is just my thought but i think Niki dying was where it ended for merc...he was the standard quality control on EVERYTHING...now i bet they have a bunch of yesmen up there
@@matevzrantcater don't forget Lewis will be pushing for diversity and inclusion at the factory I bet. Get woke, go broke
Wish Toto and Lewis just said "well done, it's an amazing feat"
They’d sooner kill Max than say that.
Yeah, I used to really like Toto but he’s turned a bit ugly and petty after Mercedes have fallen from the top
yeah lol, it was such a no brainer. how hard is it do a fake praise. tch reminds me of my dad.
I mean what did Lewis say?
The Lewis lovers wonder why Hamilton gets so much hate?? Comments like these are the reason why! Sore loser who thinks he is Gods gift to F1!!
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Lmao 😂😂😂
In the end the difference is most likely because Lewis often had slow season starts and offdays from time to time. Max has been like a machine and hasnt put a foot wrong in forever.
Well, he hasn't had to push, because he's had no competition from within the team, and Red Bull doesn't make mistakes like Merc did, Red Bull doesn't have off-races or tracks they're slow at unlike Mercedes on tracks like Monza, Singapore, Monaco, etc. It's exceptionally rare for drivers to make mistakes when they're not pushing, so your comment is not really saying a lot
@@VENO5407it's not entirely on the driver "not pushing" as you mentioned Redbull has not had any team errors, and their car (or at least Max's car) seems to perform at any circuit. If your argument is only about "driver not pushing" then why Hamilton didnt have the most consecutive wins in 2020?
@@naufalkusumah2192 I believe it was already answered as to why Lewis didn't get the most consecutive wins in 2020, near the end of the video.
@@matinknight9527 yes you are exactly right, even my own comment indirectly implied the answer. It was more of a rhetorical question to the first replier that his comment also "is not really saying a lot"
@@matinknight9527 Fact remans Rosburg clobbered him to seven in a row, Ham still trying.
Good stats there, mate. I feel that Toto and Lewis diminishing Max and Red Bull like that is beneath them. Why say anything other than "Not bad. We'll aim to stop that streak!"
Bad day at the office. Appreciate it fella!
Because they've been told everything but for 8 years straight, respect is a two-way street, and they recieved none
@@eminamahmutagic2650 if you think redbull and horner have been respectful to mercedes during their dominance, you're either new to f1, biased or you're disingenuous.
Lewis has a point. Merc does not with all their operational and strategic mistakes
@stayynfresh read my comment again, maybe you'll manage to understand
Just adding: If RB didn't underfuel Max during quali in Singapore he would have probably matched the 9 win record in 2022 already (France - Mexico). And - as a big and arguable ask - if RB didn't mess up the setup in Brazil it could have extended to 12 until Bahrain '23.
if they had, he wouldn't have started on poll anyway. he didn't have enough fuel to finish the lap and come back around which is a sporting penalty. he would have started in 10th I belive.
Remember in Jeddah he had the drveshaft issue in qualifying, and got up to P2 very close behind Perez in the race. So without that, ad his win at the following race in Australia, he would have had a whopping 14 race win streak, plus a 10 win streak immediately afterwards and 29 wins in 33 races (could have been 31/33 if Perez hadn't crashed in Q3 at Monaco and he didn't get the damage in Silverstone).
@justinmiller5600 Memory served me wrong there I'll be correcting it
@@freakysnuke2571 to be fair, fuel wasn't the explicit reason given by RBR. But the evidence points to that being the reason, if my memory serves.
But many believe that's why he was called in. And it's the only real reason.
So many races you mentioned tommo. Lewis had off days. Max simply doesn't have off days. Consistency of max is off charts. No mistake from max side since last year 🙌 just 1 spin during race in Hungary and came near to crash in miami last year. And only 1 mistake from RB last year in Singapore. Both team and max are bulletproof. Thats make this combination what it is.
Lewis made his fair share of mistakes, although I'd say 2020 he was on a 2023 Verstappen level of consistent dominance.
You know max's car is a second a lap quicker even when hes cruising? he can have an off-day and still be super safe.
Vettel had 9 in a row. Rosberg achieved 7 in a row. Neither are considered better than Lewis Hamilton. Winning more consecutive races in a row doesn't mean one driver is better than the other.
@@oransjballthat’s just not true. Perez proves that. His car his nowhere near a second faster, especially at this point in the season. Both Ferrari’s were within a tenth last race and the same has been true for McLaren a couple races back. If we account for Perez’s times, the reality is there are races where the RB has been slower in qualifying and equalled in the race. Max just makes it look that easy
I agree. This insane level Red Bull are currently at is definitely BECAUSE of the Mercedes dominance. They didn't always have the raw pace due to their crap engine most years and so instead focussed on aerodynamic excellence and operational perfection. Now that they have the fastest car too, no-one can get close. They, as a team, make significantly less mistakes than the other teams, have the fastest pitstops etc., and it really is on the other teams to not only create a faster car but also to become far less sloppy operationally. Even with a similarly fast car (think Leclerc at the start of 2022), all of the other teams would currently drown over the course of a season, as Ferrari did.
The relentless pace of 21 is a big part of why max is so consistent now. MB are why RB are so driven to dominate… and it burns them that they can’t just spend to catch back up
To put salt in a wound, their customer team even able to improve significantly than themselves
What makes Max's win streak so impressive is that, not only is it obviously the highest ever, but he's had to overcome a fair bit of adversity like starting P9 in Miami whilst his teammate was on pole and starting P6 in Spa which is stuff that Vettel didn't have to deal with. And yes he had the fastest car but so did Checo who started ahead those two races and I think people underrate Checo a bit because Max is doing a number on him. In my opinion, Checo on Bottas' level when he was Lewis' teammate.
Also, you mentioned everything coming together for a win streak including luck. If it wasn't for the engine problem in Saudi qualifying and safety car timing in Baku, Max could've won *all* the races this season so far, making his win streak even bigger.
That actually makes it less impressive. Imagine being that much better than your teammate.
Pretty much the least competitive year for 1st.
Bottas has over 20 poles & 10 wins Checo isn’t on his level
Stop lying Bottas never had troubles in qualifying like that 5 in row Checo just had a few races ago. He had wins where he won on the stregth of his pace not relying on Lewis's misfortunes like Checo has this year.
True, those recovery drives open the door for contact with others. Way more than when you're starting from pole and leading throughout.
@@Veryverydrunkbeing faster than your teammate in the same car isn't impressive anymore
Lewis used to have a number of stinker races every year, he never had a seasonal record but only total wins and poles accumulated across 17 years and having the best car for 10 of them which shows consistently over the years but not dominance race to race.
Pretty much exactly it. Verstappen is just a stronger and more consistent driver in all areas.
he also had teammates that kept him competitive and made him take risks in several races that Max has not had to do this season. He's beating Checo by wide margins as well. Not since last season have we seen Max and Checo fighting for any position. Tommo comments several times about Lewis' mistakes in races while trying to get around teammates as well as reliability and rules differences
This is why I have Schumacher and Verstappen ahead of him. A prime MSC was what basically Verstappen is right now...NEVER an off day
@@trebm3 5 out of Lewis's 7 titles were against Bottas and Kovalainen and the remaining two against Roseberg who is a great driver, the issue is Max would destroy all of them. Nico himself considers Max to be far better than himself and is top 5 all time.
@@trebm3 Stop acting like Bottas was pushing Ham, because when he was they just told him to move.
Realistically, every year at Merc, bar 2019 ish (Ferrari engine) and 2020. He has always had a competition for wins. 2014 - Nico, 2015 - Nico, 2016 - Nico, 2017 - Seb, 2018, 2021 - Max.
Yep. And even in 2019 & 2020. The Mercedes still had bogey circuits like Mexico.
@@oldschool8330Yep?!
This is quite laughable, especially 2020 which saw the greatest car in F1 History, Ferrari has just lost 30kmh and his teammate was Bottas.
2008, 2011, 2012 and 2016 are at best all the seasons were he had competition hé himself took seriously.
@@gandalf_thegrey Yes, but we didn't see the 2020 car racing at other circuits. Now, given the state of the car, I'd say they would have been dominant everywhere, but the 2019 car was unsuitable for some tracks and it showed.
@@oldschool8330 2020 also had tyre wear issues highlighted in Silverstone that yr both races. Also had a problem following other cars.
What Wolff said reminds me a little of Prost's attitude towards the championship - he didn't need to win all the races to win his titles.
Prost had Senna as team mate, Lewis had Bottas. Big difference.
@@JuanCEOs725 if you're going to mention Prost Vs Senna, Prost outscored Senna both years they were teammates.
@@BOABModels1988?
I still found it funny how LH still lost the 2021 Hungarian GP despite having all his rivals getting taken out at turn 1
Yeah, he was dead last after lap 1 because he was the only one on inters at the start. When you pit on the 1st lap you know your race is fucked
"He had better teammates"
Rosberg got 7 in a row. Guess who his teammate was when he did that
That just proves the point? He had an all time great as a teammate while Max has Checo
@@EdwardElfigoit proves the point that Hamilton is not as consistent as Max
@@EdwardElfigo If you allow your teammate to beat you 7 times in a row, it doesn't mean your teammate is an all time great, it means your teammate is driving better than you.
The reason checo looks bad is because max makes him look bad.
Hamilton never made his teammates look bad.
@doghat1619 Max is an incredible driver but it isn’t Max making Checo look bad, it’s Checo struggling to make it into Q3 and binning the car while being beaten consistently by the likes of Alonso, Leclerc, Hamilton etc when you have the most dominant car in the history of the sport.
Checo currently is not close to Rosberg, or Bottas in their Merc days.
Also on the days checo is doing well e.g. Zaandvort, the team purposely undercut him so Max is not under pressure by his team mate even on the rare occasions checo is performing. Hence why they were so apologetic to Max when Checo won in Baku.
@@doghat1619 The same Hamilton that was tied with 2-time world champion Alonso in his first season? He made a multi-world champion look like a doss, even though he wasn't. Short-term memory mate. Hamilton has made his teammates look "bad" with all the championships he has won alongside racing with them, period. You can appreciate both Max and Lewis without brushing over any of their achievements. You fans are crazy af
I'm wondering how many Senna or Prost could have won in a row in 1988 or 1989 without the other as a teammate (if they'd had someone like Johansson in the other car). Even the Monza loss was partially caused by Prost pushing Senna too hard as he knew his car wouldn't last! Probably too much unreliability to be better than 10 though.
the monza loss was caused by Jean-Louis Schlesser, who didnt knew, how to let the leader by safely.
Simple: mistakes.
Or more competition from Vettel and Rosberg.
He just had more competition realistically. He either had Rosberg or Ferrari and Occasionally red bull able to fight for the win depending on the track.
The Mercedes has been dominant in the past but it's not as bullet proof as the current red bull.
No he had competitive team mate: bottas 💀
Team & driver.
@@einezcrespo2107Rosberg managed to win 7 in a row until Lewis wrecked him. He could have broken the record while Lewis was his teammate LoL
It’s amazing that this feat is rare with all the dominant eras of F1.
There’s a perfect storm where the field isn’t close to Redbull and Perez isn’t Rosberg or Bottas.
Simple answer really. Max has the perfect combination: Skill,Consistency,Car,Mechanics,Team. Lewis had the same & still wasn't able to do it. It's just Max's mentality, turn up to every race & push to the max & care about the individual week result then worry about the rest later.
I'd argue Red Bull's operations are clear of Mercedes. Look at how many times they f**ked over Lewis (Italy, Russia) and George (Sakhir) in 2020. No way Red Bull pull that nonsense.
@@TommoOnUA-cam To be fair Red Bull did pull that nonsense on Ricciardo in Monaco which cost him the win, but it is true that they rarely drop the ball.
@@TommoOnUA-cam Monaco 2017 though 💀
its not the mentality LMAOO
@@TommoOnUA-cam I’m inclined to agree.RB are definitely more consistent when it comes to strategy, pit stops etc. Which makes the difference when you are looking at a record that needs consistency. So full credit to Red Bull for being able to do that, just shows that they are on top of their game.
Its not unimaginable now that Max has won 10 in a row, but he could win every race left on the schedule.
I've watched so many Tommo vids... but without fail, every time the GT4 soundtrack kicks in I smile and get an immense sense of nostalgia
Great video Tommo. I really think the best opportunity was 2020. Lewis was totally in the zone and I still think that’s the most ruthless we’ve seen him. As for Max, from a LH fan, you have to admire the consistency and all out desire to be Number 1 in every single session he takes part in. I’m sure he will still be like that even after he’s confirmed champion this season.
About Lewis’ Penelty in Russia in 2020 there is a funny back story. He got this penalty quite straight away. But same year, in spa, Charles was under investigation for driving his lap to the grid to slow. Ferrari addressed that by telling them, it was because he crossed SC Line 1 too soon due to… practice start in wrong position. FIA Steward said: ah ok then no problem xD
disappointing that whenever someone makes a video about lewis, the haters come piling through with their bias clouding their judgement. great vid tommo as usual
And why should that be you think? I think it is purely the behaviour of diva HAM and his misrable teamleader. Very bad losers and whiners.
Sadly the reverse is also true, even if they don't speak dutch. Dropping negative msgs. Great Video indeed
@@HetIsSjoef on social media hate towards lewis is very much more prevalent. in real life i'd say theyre equally disliked
Fact is: People are very pitifull if they call themselves fans and engage in this ridiculous screaming-contest. I'm sorry for my fellow countrymen and the role they play.@@rodsitamara
Honestly you have to appreciate Max's season I mean look at checo who is a top driver.
Checo isn’t a top driver 😂. He’s not even top 8 😂.
@@gameofender4463 not top 10... but he does what he is contracted to. How many WDC has Max had as teammates?
Perez isn’t a top driver. He’s lucky if you even rank him in the top 10
@@gameofender4463 He is top 8 lol. People are just forgetting how good Checo is since you guys can only see the most recent stuff lol
@@methanoidThat’s exactly the point. Max has never been challenged as consistently as Lewis.
This puts into context how difficult it is to achieve and how RedBulls and Max's result and considering they were able to do it before as well it must be one thing, they are the peak team of F1. If not for the bad renault engines, Mercedes and Lewis arent winning as many titles as they did or any at all.
the funny part is the mercedes engine was only that ahead of every other engine because mercedes knew ahead of every other manufacturer about the v6 turbo engines
I see that point a lot. But, what's the difference between Mercedes nailing the engine regulations, and Red Bull nailing the aero regulations? Both teams got it right respectively, and deserve the merit for that no?
@@thomasblack33the funny part is you running your mouth about things you have no proof of, all you protect your fragile ego. Actually that’s not funny…it’s sad.
also having no teammate helps
@@TommoOnUA-cam Absolutely, they deserve every success, doesnt matter if it was superior engine, its their ingenutiy that produced it. I am hypothesizing if renault had produced a engine equal to Mercedes, then I'd put my bet on RB to get a good aero package and with equal engine on their side it'll be tough to beat them. Ofcourse these are hypothetical and Mercedes could just have won it regardless but I dont think it would be as many as it was. This scenario would mean Vettel vs Lewis vs Dan Ric vs Nico, would have been epic.
iirc in Australia 2019 Hamilton had a floor issue, which prevented him from getting anywhere near Bottas and was being hounded by Verstappen in the inferior Honda. He still might have not beaten Bottas though, since he had the better start and didn't make any mistakes.
Did I miss any races? Any opportunities where Lewis could've gotten close to 10, if not for things outside his control? lmk xoxo
EDIT: Thanks Premiere Pro for randomly dropping images from the export. 👍
I noticed the fade effect and at first I thought it was intentional but then the camera shutter sound came and that’s when I found out it was an editing error, L from Adobe.
Lewis had a chance for 6 in a row in 2017 from Belgium to COTA if not for verstappens Malaysia win
Also a chance for 7 in a row in 2016-17 from COTA to Bahrain where he finished 2nd in Australia after a merc strategy error and Bahrain where Lewis got a penalty for blocking in the pits which cost him the win
Honestly, I didn't even see a single opportunity. You have to be calculated and capable to drive around problems thrown at you, or avoid making them.
Lewis never struck me as a win at all cost driver. He always seemed much more focused on the bigger picture of securing the championship, even if that meant playing it safe to secure P2 instead of risking the position just to get a sniff at P1.
So more of a Prost than a Senna, even though it claims Senna to be its hero. In that regard Max is more like Senna, wanting to win everything he can and even grabbing that fastest lap when even remotely possible, leaving nothing but scraps on the table.
He did struck Max to win at all costs.
Max isn't looking for a win at all costs. He's looking for perfection. He wants to be able to go into a weekend and never have a single error from start to finish while also topping every session. That's his current challenge and that's because there isn't another team that close enough even to challenge the RB19
@@aaawac2174 That sounds like win at all costs to me
To me it always seemed like Lewis got bored of dominating and the full time 100% committed racing driver lifestyle fairly quickly. He does so much different things outside of F1. On the other hand, Maxs hobbies are racing, sim racing and more racing. Max is basically a psycho for that level of commitment tbh
Exactly bro. Max has no weaknesses because he has utilised every technique what it takes to drive a f1 car in different conditions. Even in.Baku he was playing around with certain settings and then used what he found for the rest of the season onwards. His adaptability is second to none and right up there with Alonso. Lewis is beneath these two currently. That merc does seem like a handful at times. Anyway max will dominate till the next regs no one can.tough him and hes not even in his prime😂
@@Crukren89sorry but Hamilton adapted more many differents cars and different driving style. Lewis is second to Alonso of having the biggest operating window in the grid. He can drive many setups and still being quick
@@alexlacl8730 Agree to some extent . I haven't forgot about Canada 2012 or Malaysia 2014 where even the team had to dissect what he was doing with his setup , Lewis has a good feel for what the car is doing no one is disputing that but from what ive seen in comparison to max. Max seems to have a better handle on it and im talking about his pace in mercs dominance. aswell. I read a statement from albon saying max's setups are like playing cod with high sensitivity thumb sticks. Thats insane lol and its why drivers have struggled to match him
@@Crukren89 I'm agree. Max has his own setup and has a special driving style that some could adapt but none would be quick.
Lewis has a neutral style so he got more challenges
True, Hamilton always said he would have liked the fight to be closer
While Max is like, I show up, I win the race, in fact I would like to win by more if possible
Great informative video. Idk what the comments are on but as a LH fan this video reminded me of the close margins, but also highlights how Max & Redbull as a team currently are achieving greatness within the sports. And realistically the streak isn't even done yet
Cheers David! Exactly that, this is a team sport first and foremost. Just like in football, you don't win the golden boot if you don't have somebody assisting you. We always look at it through the lens of individual achievements, but those individual achievements are so disproportionally weighted on the teams around them.
@@TommoOnUA-camclearly hurt by Lewis comments. Lewis never ever got help from the fia unlike golden boy. Lewis didn’t tell no lies he said he faces world champion & drove with them as teammates. What about your boy not once. Redbull & Verstapphen will always been seen as cheaters. Don’t forget that Tommo in your next video. Nice one
@@bizzle3163Dam someone just got out of the psyche ward
@@bizzle3163 Lulu got no help from the FIA, tell me you don't follow F1 without telling me. The very reason 2021 went to the last race is because the FIA constantly helped lulu/merc that season and shafted Max/RB every time in doing so. If the FIA had done their job properly, Max would have been champion multiple races before the end. Lulu tells no lies? Ha, lulu is at the center of lie-gate, lying to the stewards after a race. And no, RB and Max never cheated, it was merc that cheated, you idiot.
@@tiebiriusg must be you clearly got nothing to say. Donut 😂😂
Was this a fantasy world, I would want Max to win 8 WDC in a row, then after being asked how does he feel about breaking the SCH/HAM overall wins (and consecutive), he would reply "It's just for wikipedia." and then proceed to drop the mic and retire on the spot with 2 races to go.
Yeah, gonna be honest that's a thing I would do
Tommo, Which one had the more dominant car to the rest of the grid when they broke the most consecutive wins record? Max or Seb?
Max. The first half of 2013 Mercedes was good enough to steal a win..no other car can beat Max and RB now
I think Max, I think the RB9 might have had a peak pace advantage but wasn't as bulletproof and wasn't well balanced as the RB19.
Seb only won 3 of the first 8 in 2013. It was a late run to the finale that got him the 9. So Max 2023, for sure.
What makes you think the RB19 is dominant? Wache himself (technical director at RB) said how he thinks the RB19 is above average, but not particularly great. If you look at Perez, it's quite clear what he means. It's Max that dominates, not necessarily the car.
@@TommoOnUA-cam To be fair all the other teams stopped developing the 2013 car in the summer break, which caused the RedBull dominance. I'd say Seb definitely had a less dominant car in the first half of the season, but the 2nd half of the season the RedBull was more dominant than the current RedBull is. Mark Webber went from occasional podiums to consistent podiums after the summer break, whereas Perez hasn't been able to replicate that either during Max' winning streak.
Because that Red Bull-Max combo is a great combo and depends on the team and dominance over the teammate.. Since Seb's was also in a Newey-designed Red Bull, maybe the combo is Newey-Red Bull.
Whilst Mercs dominance during that period is unquestionably there was always an issue. During the period where the merc was clear Hamilton could easily have got 10 wins on the bounce he had class teammate in Rosberg to fight with. Then when Rosberg was out of the picture Ferrari was close enough to fight for race wins and even red bull could fight for wins. Whilst the Merc was dominant it was not as bullet proof as the current red bull. That merc car always had specific tracks where it just seemed slower for one reason or another.
Also another huge factor is reliability. A couple of years ago assuming there may be mechanical failure or issue at some point wouldn't be outlandish. Present day mechanical failures (Unless you're Alpine) are out of the ordinary. Particularly from the top teams. You'd need either a perfect storm of good reliability or a car so good you can turn down the engine whilst still being the dominant force on track.
A month or so ago I compared this current although shorter era of max dominance to Lewis' and found that there were more different race winners from different teams during Lewis' era over the course of the first five rounds of the season. So this Red Bull + Max Package with no teammate and no teams able to develop a car that's even close is just something else.
I think it is because, the consistency just wasn't as high as it is now. how many DNF's have there been this year due to problems with the car? it feels like all the cars have gotten more reliable due to the cost cap. And even this season there we're races were max could've gotten a bad result. But he is just so consistent and won't allow it to happen. Even if he doesn't start on pole.
@@RhomasTotevenaar Yeah, cars suffering from bad reliability is just unheard of now. Go back to before 2018 and a car was retiring every race due to engine trouble.
When is the last time anyone has lost positions due to engine or gearbox penalties???
It was no problem when Rosberg won 7 in a row.
@@Nox_DesireeMax had a 5 place grid drop in Spa 2023 for new components
Max wouldn't allow Rosberg to win, a real GOAT wouldn't. There you have your answer.
Id love a version of this for some of the other dominant runs. Maybe Michael? Vettel? Could Vettel have gotten 10+ wins possibly? Any other dominant runs that could have matched or equaled this this record. Maybe you could even analyze the two other 9 race wins in a row and tell us why they werent more, or possibly what were the circumstances that led them to the 9 in the first place?
Seb could’ve won the first 9 races of 2011 without some circumstances and mistakes from him & the team
We are all watching history and once finished we probably will never see this amount of wins in a row again. I know it can get boring but lets give credit where credit is due. I am just having more fun now hoping Max wins.
Thank u so much for doing the research! I swear whenever I ask myself stuff like this but I’m too lazy to do the work, you post & lay out all the things I’ve wondered/wanted/needed.
These comments could be fun……
Do this for Max and see how he would've had a run of like 25 wins haha
Yes from France 2022 till Italy 2023. 25 wins cut off by just 4 races not won.
Great research and very well put together. Thanks @Tommo
2020 would’ve probably been the record breaking year for Hamilton, he got 11 wins from 17 races, if it followed the regular season he would’ve probably beat the most wins record and maybe even the win streak
The difference is that Lewis actually had a teammate in the same zip code. Even Seb had troubles because they didn't even have the best car.
Max breaking the record is cool but idk that it has the same weight
Which goes to show lulu was never all that good, Max has his own unique postal code.
@@EntropicExergyWhich is racing nobody, correct?
@@TheIshmael98 Then you haven't watched Miami, Monaco, Silverstone, Hungary, Spa, Zandvoort and Monza.
All of the records "wont have the same weight" the moment someone takes them off of Hamilton. If anybody gets more wins all of a sudden the growing calendar will be a big talking point as if it's not the only reason Hamilton has more wins than Schumacher.
@@ronmastrio2798 As if Schumacher didn't had a useless teammate (Barrichello) during his 5 years of pure domination while Lewis had Rosberg between 2014-2016...
The difference between Max and Lewis is for each of Lewis's streak, there was some form of driver error that broke it. Max didn't have that this season.
Great video, beautiful graphics and great editing, very creative. This video shows how difficult it is to win 10 in a row.
answer: 1.) FIA tire pressure limit change at 70A Grand Prix,
2.) FIA makes a decision to close the pit lane right before Ham arrived at Italian GP,
3. 2x 5second penalty for irrelevant reasons (not right place to practice starts)
That's why. End of the story.
The only reason Lewis doesn't a 20 wins streak is because he had competitive teammates who can sneak a win from him... Meanwhile all the teammates of Verstappen were 2nd grade drivers who only there to block other drivers and helping Verstappen rather than competing for the win.
Are you serious? What a nonsense, are Ricciardo and Perez 2nd grade drivers? And why is Albon now so emblazoned? And was Bottas such great driver? "to block other drivers" "? You are a good asset to the MERC and HAM childisch whiners. VER prooves again and again he is a real champion and HAM just a spoiled childsh showboat and whiner.
You have a valid point. But, If max and Lewis were teammates, do you really think Lewis would beat him over the season? Lewis had the faster car in 21 but lost to Max.
Lewis equal points with Alonso in 2007 (alonso had more DNFs), beaten by Button in 2011, Rosberg in 2016, Russell in 2022.
Max (excluding his mid season in the swap with Kyviat) from 2015 at 17 years old, beat Sainz , Ricciardo, Gasly, Albon and Perez, and in most cases demolished them.
I don’t think any driver can beat max in the same car over a season. He is consistently driving at a top level that others cannot match.
He was built and moulded to be a champion from a young age by his father. No other driver had this type of training, and on top of the talent, it is unbeatable. I genuinely think only prime Michael Schumacher would have a chance to beat Max in the same car)
Also, Max is achieving this level since about 22 years old. Now at 25, maybe he has still not peaked.
Phenomenal. Unparalleled. Unbeatable.
I just don't think you can compare as all careers are very unique in different ways
Lewis of course had a huge advantage with that merc in 2014 to 2020 but he also had a very very competetive teammate in Rosberg up to 2016
2017 and 2018 you had Ferrari very strong in some races too
Max in that RB19 is just coasting with no competitors
The hardest thing to do is make something look easy. Max is way better than lulu ever was.
@@EntropicExergyI won't say Max is way better. But he definitely makes less mistakes than anybody I've ever seen.
@EntropicExergy my man got max in his throat to the base 😂
@@purujitpradhan3550 That automatically means he is better, that's just how it works.
@@jedispartancoolman Don't project your disgusting fantasies about lulu onto me, you perv.
when max hd his debut every driver on the grid expressed their surprised feelings that at this age he's hired as an F1 driver, but not vettel... he said obviously their is something that made then hire him... he knew
Great vid, if anything this highlights Mercedes blunders and how on it Red Bull are with every detail - kudos
I'll be frank. It's not going to be 10 streak, but at least 14 or 15 with massive IF. Max will do it IF and only IF RB can perform well and they correctly put enough fuel on Max's car on Singapore. Afther that, easy as taking a candy from a baby.
Imagine how mad Max would be if they underfueled him AGAIN. 😅
@@TommoOnUA-cam No Tommo, pls no jinx🤣🤣🤣
I have no doubt Max will hammer that point down big time. Max has unfinished business in Marina Bay, he's going for that win.
Despite their dominance Mercedes always have a huge strategic clanger from time to time. Add in the fact Lewis had quick teammates it would be very difficult to get 10 in a row.
When people asks Toto avout stats, he always replies saying they don't matter.
He celebrates many stats but every time he is directly asked, he says it doesn't matter.
It's not only Max, it's Lewis, Rosberg and sometimes even Bottas too.
I’d love to share a cheeky chicken Pot Noodle with Tommo.
Love that you keep the data above speculation or personal opinions. Great video!
Cheers Eduard!
It's simple, really.
From the McLaren days, for every win Ham had, Vet, Web, Alo, Mas, But had atleast 5-7 wins combined which never allowed him to build a streak.
From the Rosberg Merc era, for every 5 wins Ham had, there were 2 Ros wins, all hard fought.
From the Bottas era, for every 10 wins Ham had, Bot, Ric, Ver, Vet had atleast 4 wins combined, which is quite a big interruption for a 10 win streak.
I'm a Lewis fan, I won't deny it so my opinion might be slightly biased.
Ever since last year, max and the car are performing at a level where no one can deny him a victory. Ferrari is Ferrari, merc takes 1 step forward 2 steps back in development, McLaren and Aston are peaky in terms of performance because the cars are very track specific while Perez has mentally checked out after 2021 abu dhabi. The average gap between max and Perez is huge and it's all because of skill issue. RB doesn't even need team orders because max is clearly playing the field on 0 difficulty. He is just that good.
Now give the grid 5 RBs, one to max, Alonso, Hamilton, Norris and Charles each and watch how his 10 win streak becomes a dream because while he may be getting the better of them usually, 10 wins in a row would be clearly impossible as the others are just that good too.
No matter how much Hamilton haters deny, Lewis did have strong competition and was on his toes for 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2021. I can say that yes, 2014, 2019 and 2020 weren't that big competitively and Lewis could just lay back and relax which he did.
Max doesn't lay back and relax. No matter how many times he says he is not chasing records, the way he drives clearly shows that his performance on the track matters most, even if the championship is wrapped by the summer break itself. He will not leave space, he will not make mistakes. He will push himself to the max (pun intended). We can look at 2022 Brazil for example where he had nothing to lose by conceding a place to check and give him a helping hand in the championship for second place but he wouldn't do it. Even if it was for a single point!
It's a beige flag for me, I respect the determination and drive but sometimes he can be a bit too much, that's just my opinion.
Hence, it's all down to the driver. Hamilton will lay back and relax if he sees that his championship is wrapped up and he has no reason to not let Bottas by from P6 to P7 if he was in that situation. Max isn't like him. It's just the completely opposite personalities colliding.
The fanbases will ofcourse make a big deal out of it and everything, but I feel Lewis just doesn't care about this record enough, he cares about the 8th more and that's what he chases.
I respect Lewis' decision to not care and give a damn and I also respect max for caring and having that grit until the last second of the last lap of the last race.
If he doesn't care why did he make that statement about him having better teammates then max, it just feels like he wants to be in the news to me (it clearly worked lol).
Looks very simple😅 jk, thx for the clarification👍
Monaco alonso could have won and Canada, the Ferraris had the best race pace. Yes, the races pre 2021 that max and other drivers won were because they had similar, if not better pace than the mercs but the same can be said for some of the races this season as well. Lets also not pretend checo is a bad driver, he was matching if not outpacing max in the two races he won this year; what changed was max using the Baku race as a huge free practice session to finetune his car and since then, he's always been very comfortably faster than Sergio. Max is just more consistent and as ruthless a racer that we've seen in decades. People, the British in particular, need to accept and appreciate greatness when they see it and stop playing this childish game of "what if?"
A true GOAT would go for every record. A true GOAT would not lose the hunger for the win. Lulu is no GOAT, Max is.
Ain’t no way you’re including 2015 😂
That was a cakewalk season
In the 2019 Australian Gp : A section of the left-rear portion of the floor on his Mercedes was damaged during the race. The damage occurred on lap four
I don’t always watch f1 content, but when I do, I watch TOMMO
Oh snap? Is it time for the comments again? Excuse me, make way! I need to see what the experts think!
Back when Lewis was the class of the field, there was Red Bull, Ferrari and his teammate regularly taking wins off him, so I'm amazed he managed to get as far as he did, 5 in a row. The field was more competitive back then. Can't discredit what Max is doing though. Like 2021, I am thankful to be witnessing what I am witnessing and I hope at least some of you are... It's mad to think I might have the opportunity to tell future fans, I watched an F1 season whereby a single team won every single race. Insane...
In terms of a pace advantage Mercedes were further ahead than Red Bull now, just seems the way it's delivered now is far more consistent with no teams having better strategies or better wet weather cars which happened then
Lol
You are misremembering merc dominance. The number of 1-2s says enough
Rosberg even managed to get 7 lol
@@jakem5039u have no idea I think. Mercedes were not so upfront in races in 2017 to 19. 2014 to 16 Nico was there.
I will give u an e.g
1. Miami : Sergio lost to max starting from p9. If there was Nico rosberg he would have won that race by over 20s.
2.Lax got penalty spa. If Nico was present he would have won.
See max didn't do anything wrong in Miami or spa but his teammate is trash who was beaten many times by stroll.
If Lewis had Perez type of teammate during merc serious domination like rb in 14 to 16. Then Lewis would have won more than 10 races continuously.
I'd say 2020 was the only year Lewis had a Verstappen 2023 level of complete dominance over the field. But Red Bull have been way more impressive in their operations in 2023 than Mercedes were in 2020.
I think this also showed that yes mercedes was a strong team otherwise they wouldn't have build so many dominant cars between 2014-2020, but on the strategic side they weren't so great. Remember for example Germany 2019 and Sahkir 2020. Red Bull is dominant on all fronts: fastest pitstops, best strategy and fastest car ofcourse.
That transition to the square space sponsorship 👏
They say records are made to be broken, but i seriously can’t take another season of outright obliteration of all competition that led to this. I hope his record is never broken and stands as an example of how financial and sporting regulations failed to deliver a competitive season.
sporting regulations will NEVER deliver a competitive season, unless you introduce arbitrary punishments for success, like reverse grid races.
Every time the technical regulations change, some teams do better than others.
@@doghat1619 disagree since many seasons have been decided on the last race. Merc and now RB dominance changed that
Even as a Verstappen fan I would like actual competition. But I disagree on the sporting regulations failing. Since the new rules all teams except Red Bull have come way closer to another. This season we have seen Aston Martin, Mercedes, Mclaren and Ferrari as the second team. I didn't see that in 2015-2020. It's just Red Bull that ahead. And while I believe that Peres underdelivers with that car, he struggles an awful lot. So there is also the Verstappen factor. Not that RB doesn't have the fasted car, but Verstappen makes it look worse than it is.
When you give teams freedom as much as F1 does, someone might make the dominant car that will crush the competition. Especially in the first yearbor two of new regulations. Let these regulations stay stable for 3-4 seasons and the others will catch up.
Also, the grid as a whole is closer together than ever
Thank you for the video Tommo, it's nice to go back to recent years to see how little moments shaped entire seasons of T-posing tier dominance 💁🏻♂️💪🏼🏆.
P.S: Nico Rosberg was about to get his 7th win streak if not for Lewis crashing into him at T4 in (S)pain 💀👍🏼...
It also comes down to RB prioritizing the number 1 driver
At this point I feel pretty confident that Max's streak won't be ended by anything to do with him, either some reliability or team/strategy issue for sure, we'll see how well this comment ages lol
There's no one on the grid that can take the fight to Max, he has no competition which in turns makes it easy to focus on driving on the limit consistently. He's not chasing anyone on the grid but he's chasing the perfect time.
To be fair Hamilton was battling Riccardo, Vettel, Alonso, Massa, Button, Nico and etc. Those were the guys he was usually trading wins with. Max isn't battling any veterans or world champions during his reign aside from Alonso and Hamilton
Max beat Lewis in inferior machinery and now owns him once he has the best car
The current top end of the field is pretty stacked. Like sure they aren't necessarily veteran world champions but their skill ceiling is easily as high when they're having a good day. Leclerc, Norris, Sainz, Piastri, Russell, even Perez (when its a track that fits his driving style at least) could all put up a fight if something happened to Verstappen.
@@cursed2322 he never beat him in inferior machinery
@@AegrusYT The current grid is mad talented, but they're just not like the guys I mentioned. There were more champions back then. Now it's just Lewis and Alonso. Alonso is in a "new" team that is still finding its footing and Lewis is in a car that is way behind since they got the whole concept wrong.
I am not discrediting Max, I'm just seeing it how it is. The guys you mentioned are all great, but they are still often taking themselves out of the race or getting into accidents. It's too early to hop on the Piastri train so I have no comment there
max was way more consistent then lewis in 21 with a wrose car
One thing I remember about Max is how he prepares his car. His car is purposefully oversteery, very heavy in the front to make it very responsive and agile and then he dances with the car through the corners. No one was able to control a car with his setup(not even his father likes it when they drive in a team). So I'm not sure if someone would be able to beat him in equal machinery, if he's this different than others in a sense that he makes the car be on the edge of its performance all the time.
Actually Schumacher and Hamilton predominantly in his early career used to set up the car in exactly this way. When Merc shifted to a longer wheelbase it no longer became as efficient so Hamilton adapted away slightly. Anyway.
Just to add, the changing point was 2012 for many drivers. Tyres were fragile as heck then (Maldonado even won a race of course) with Hamilton lamenting on the radio he couldn't drive any slower, and Vettel driving like a grandma. That put pay to really pointy cars that would mash rear tyres. I think Hamilton changed at that point, and once the tyres became more durable he never quite got that pointy driving back for the reasons above. Interesting. Also interesting is that Alonso drives completely differently to these two!
Max getting 10 is impressive but not that impressive when you break it down.
You a have teammate underperforming, best car ever built, no break downs, no other car is anywhere close to RedBull. Creates the perfect scenario to achieve 10+ wins in a season.
Nico rosberg has a better consecutive win record of 7 in a shorter career time with Lewis as his teammate. Lewis didn't even come close to breaking Nico's record lol
Lewis had engine issues in the first races of 2016. That’s why nico had an easy run to the 4 victories.
POV : You try to deny Lewis had reliebility problems and got taken out by a sauber driver and Bottas
That’s actually wild, Rosberg deserves more respect
@@Duval-In-The-Wall @Duval-In-The-Wall exactly and what's even crazy is Sebastian made those records in 4 years on top of which Alonso was on God mode for 2 years 2010 & 12. So only 2 years of fastest machinery. To make it even crazier there were 6 different champions on the grid. But Lewis fans will still make excuses bro. That's why I don't consider him the fastest F1 driver.
@@oldschool8330 why are you down playing Nico's achivement? Lewis had 10 years in championship winning machinery and bottas as his teammate for the majority of the years with no competition.
Ultimately Lewis always had some form of competition whether from rosberg or Ferrari. Max doesn’t have any competition making it a lot easier.
Australia 2019, Lewis had floor damage as well
2020 was the best shot but Mercedes blunders cost him the chance. They didn’t change the setup for the 70th anniversary race and caused the tyres to over heat and they boxed him in Italy when the pit lane was closed and then Russia off … basically merc was the reason in 2020 lol
Max’s win record is an impressive stat, but it’s more of a vanity stat, a stat that sounds and looks good but isn’t a significant stat like wins, poles, championships or anything
You're making it out as if both the red bulls are leading each race by 30+ seconds but in reality it is only max that's so far ahead of the competition which makes it even more impressive. I am telling you now put lewis in this red bull and he wouldn't be as dominant as max is.He'll maby win 6 or 7 in a row but definitely not 10
@@infinite_h1767 you’ve just emphasised the point I was making. The fact that both red bulls aren’t always leading and Checo is always fighting in the midfield or going out in Q1/Q2 means max doesn’t have another car as fast as his to contend with. If you put Lewis in the red bull with Max, Lewis isn’t getting 10 in a row, but neither is Max
The wins and poles stat will become insignificant the moment someone who isn't Lewis has them because of all the races they've added to the calendar. Let's just not mention how many wins and poles Schumacher would have if he got 20 races a year with modern reliability like Lewis had had. Let's also not think about how many titles Schumacher or Verstappen might have if he gets to drive 10 seasons in the fastest car on the grid. Simply put Lewis is the most privileged driver in F1 history and his fans have no right to complain about anyone else having a performance advantage.
Yeah but 2020. 🤷
@@ronmastrio2798wins and pole stats have always been useless since day one.
Schumacher was driving in more races per year as someone from the 70s. Lewis was driving in more races than Schumacher. Max will continue to drive in more races than Lewis in the future. It is what it is.
That’s why f1 can’t have a goat. The sport is always evolving and you can’t make comparisons between any driver at this point.
I think number of races in a season matter too esp for years with more car dominance or when the driver clicks with the car or is on form. Great helpful video thanks!
Because Lewis teammates were allowed to challenge him.
At redbull,,,they won't allow max teammates to challenge him.
Look at how angry they were when Perez last beat max.
It's hard when you have Alonso, Rosberg, Button etc as teammates. Rosbergs one title holds a lot of weight due to beating Hamilton in the same car. Even Sennas over Prost.
For a supposed GOAT it shouldn't be hard at all, which tells you lulu is not the GOAT, just a whiny little goat (fake GOAT).
Lewis 7 Max 2
Go ahead and make it 7-3 max is 26 F1 drivers can race till there late 30s and sometimes into there 40s max has 15 years to get 4 more titles tell me with a straight face that Lewis is actually better even when Lewis was dominating it wasn’t bye this much it’s clearly a skill issue on Lewis’s side
Soon to be 7:3 and probably more likely 7:4 than 8:3 next year.
lewis 38 max 25
Lewis would have 10 if he was as good as you seem to think he his. He's had 10 seasons in the fastest car on the grid and choked the championship in 3 of those years. Could you imagine if Schumacher or Verstappen got 10 years in a rocketship like Lewis had?
To me toto is crazy because he basically says that statistics dont matter by saying wikipedia doesnt matter, meanwhile i would argue that the biggest reason someone has for lewis to be their goat (he isnt mine its senna the schumacher instead) is that lewis has tge best statistics out of any driver partly due to being great but also due to longevity which can sometimes help choose you goat but if toto says stats dont matter by saying wikipedia doesnt matter then he is indirectly reducing the greatness of his own driver
Realistically 2020 was the only season he didn´t have a teammate nor a driver from another team who where a threat to him. That´s the most similar season to the current one for Max. Alonso, Nico, Vettel, the 2019 rollercoaster of teams having the advantage and Max from 2021 have all been big obstacles who interrupted his streak several times.
Good stuff. Also if we apply the same to Max and fix his P2 Saudi23 and P2 Azerbaijan23, he's now at 15 Wins in a row! D;
Madness
Are we talking about max though?
Looking forward to the comments
Sakhir was the first f1 race my dad ever watched with me. Good times
Austria was the race where I was genuinely impressed by Red Bull and Max. The weather was so chaotic, there were crashes and yellow flags, but they secured the win nonetheless. With such chaos, there can be a completely random podium, like Monza 2020. For me, Austria is proof that this winning streak is nowhere near its end, this team and Verstappen really blow it out of the water right now.
It's quite simple, really, and it's competition
Max is so much better than lulu, he has no competition. It's just a skill difference where Max wins out.
Considering how much has to go right into winning 10 races in a row, yes Max is an absolute talent, but it's arguably more of a Red Bull achievement than it is "just" Max driving really well. The team and Max are just an incredibly well-oiled machine.
F1 right now has a roster of incredible drivers, but without the right team behind them, well...
For completion you actually have to do the same for other drivers. For instance Max would like already have a nine wins in a row if RB didn’t make the mistake in qualifying in Singapore 2022. Max already was on the fastest lap when he was told to abort to make another even faster lap afterwards that also was aborted. This case was an RB error
I don’t think Hamilton needs 10 wins in a row to prove his worth