in present days concussion are taken seriously in hockey btw did lindros' life went well after he retired? many people who had several concussion get depressed or end up badly in some way 😟
I didn't know much about hockey when he was playing. But I remember hearing a lot about him and I am happy to hear that he's giving back but he just hit that last hit and that was it dirty hit
I grew up playing ice hockey in the 90's... before I was 18yrs old I already had 5 concussions. 1 major one that actually ended me playing hockey. I still get migraines to this day that I never had as a kid. Back then they just called it "getting your bell rung" you would shake it off and get back on the ice.
Scott Stevens took out a few players with his open ice hits, the way he put his shoulder into chest/neck area was crushing. At the time it was deemed a legal check, a couple years later, it was illegal to contact the head with a check.
@@mitchd4929 I mean he intentionally tried and succeeded in injuring many players who were the opposing teams best player. He was a punk. Don’t stand up for him. My guess you don’t know hockey very well
Lindros was hurt badly before even playing this game - he had a long history of serious concussions, and came back WAY too early trying to be a 'leader' and 'tough'. There are 3 major facts to consider: 1) Concussions were not taken seriously in hockey prior the Lindros situation 2) His family had a history of concussion problems. His brother Brett had to retire before his career even got going because of concussions. 3) Eric was a giant. Bigger and stronger than anyone else. So he had a habit of skating across the ice with his head down - suicidal in hockey terms. He got away with it until he reached the NHL where there were a few (still not many) that were big, strong, mean, and brave enough to be willing to collide with a 6'4 240lb monster flying across the ice.
@@Gerhardium Indeed. Later he was hellishly checked by Darius Kasparaitis who just didn't know what fear is. Kasparaitis exploited the lowered head by simply blocking Lindros who got seriously concussed.
If someone hit Gretzky like that, they got kicked out of the NHL. If you even looked at him the wrong way, McSorley kicked your a**. Without McSorley, Gretzky would not had half the points in the NHL.
@@larrynelson4909 Gretzky wasn't laying out fools on the ice either :) Had Lindros adopted a style like Lemieux (who was a physical force and a monster in QMJH as well but changed when he got to the NHL) people wouldn't have lit him up.
The biggest issue is that they do not "officially" track concussions for players in the minor leagues. Eric's brother Brett lasted only 51 games in the NHL because of concussion issues. It's likely they both had multiple concussions in juniors as well. He was 6'4" and 215lbs and while not a offensively talented as Eric he was a dominant player. A tragedy all the way around. Another excellent player that had to retire due to concussions was Pat Lafontaine. Possibly one of the best American players of all time had his career not been cut short.
Basically, Lindros couldn't decide whether he wanted to be a goon or a star scorer. There's an old saying that "what goes around comes around". If, as a player, you go around trying to injure other players, then sooner or later, someone's going to get you back and it doesn't matter how big or tough you are. That's what happened to Lindros.
concussions were a HUGE talking point. A group of players successfully sued the NHL for encouraging them to keep playing despite hits to the head - and they suffered long-term problems... Now there's a big concussion protocol, etc. any time a potential concussion is detected.
This hit, while not the official reason for the rule change, was the rallying call to get fans on side with the rule change. The change had not happened by the time of the Paul Kariya hit. The rule outlawing all hits to the head was introduced for the 2010/2011 season. The manager of the Philadelphia Flyers at the time was the NHL's version of Roy Keane to give you insight into the team side of the picture.
I was playing hockey during this period. A lot of the equipment that came out in the mid to late 90's had hard plastic on the exterior of the padding (elbow pads and shoulder pads).
Eric Lindros did not want to play for the Sault Ste. Marie Greyhounds in the OHL. He also refused to play in the NHL for the Quebec Nordiques. After several years with Philly, he eventually wanted out of the Philadelphia Flyers franchise and specified that he wanted to be traded to the Toronto Maple Leafs in the NHL.
The way that upcoming young players are assigned to different NHL teams is absolutely criminal. If it was any other business, the NHL would be sued for restricting competition. Each year, all the prospective professionals in Junior hockey are drafted and become the property of the teams that choose them in an organized "draft". The chosen players have only one team they can play for and for many of them, the pay they can receive is many times less than they would earn in a free market. I really supported Lindros' stance in not wanting to play for the team that drafted him and refusing to sign a contract. I'm amazed that it doesn't happen more often.
Might be a bit of a long comment but to answer as many questions as I can 1. Lindros was everything people predicted he would be when he was a kid. An absolute phenom 2. A “holdout” is when a player refuses to sign a contract with the team that owns his employment right. Being drafted is only the 1st step. You must also sign a contract before playing 3. Scott Stevens is in the hockey hall of fame and wasn’t just a dirty player. A great scorer among defensmen in his younger years he became the most feared player in the league because of hits like this 4. These hits are suspension worthy today, not at the time. While very malicious (yes he did it on purpose) they weren’t viewed as exceedingly dirty 5. Hockey has a very macho culture. The more pain you can endure the more respected you are. Concussions weren’t viewed as overly serious but injuries at the time as well. Having said that it was on the team to protect him, even from potentially himself if he was the one pushing to play 6. Players are bigger, stronger and more skilled today, but not to the degree of Lindros. He would still be 1 of 1 in todays NHL
Lindros's performance in the Canada Cup, while still technically a junior, is one of the most impressive athletic feats I've ever witnessed. He was 17-18 overpowering grown ass men in their 30's. I think he was on the gas, he just had far too much muscle mass at 16 years old. Nothing wrong with it, I just think there is a lot in common with Mr Lindros (Eric's dad) and Fritz Von Erich
Players are not necessarily bigger, definitely not stronger, and I wouldn't even say that much more skilled. Take most of the hits out, fights out, lighter equipment, etc., you have today's players. The league is full of sissies today, especially compared to the old days, aka the real hockey days
Mario Lemieux played a very similar style while in the Quebec Major Junior Hockey League, but changed as soon as he got the the NHL. Some blame his earlier style on his lingering injuries throughout his career.,
Eric Lindros' career was already pretty much over because of hits he had taken previously. This one was definitely the last straw. He was always bigger and stronger than the other kids growing up and didn't learn how to take a hit properly. You could see it in every hit where he fell like he was shot, flat out like a plank of wood. Plus, concussions were not really understood back then.
Lindros nearly died due to a punctured lung. The team doctor missed it and at this time you werent able to seek a 2nd opinion outsode of the organization. Lindros is responsible for the change innprocedure and now every player can seek a 2nd opinion outside the organzation by their prefered doctor. If he had never done anything else, this alone made him an incredibly influential player for player safety.
Concussions are a HUGE issue in hockey probably even more today than back then. More understanding of the lasting effects concussions have come to be understood. Overall the size of players has increased over the years. There are many guys the size of Lindros today. The great Sidney Crosby has had problems with concussions in the modern game. Many players have. It is considered to be part of the game. Sad but true.
Yes, he was definitely highly rated. "A 6'4" 240lb Gretzky". He was going to CHANGE the game, not just dominate it. Equivalent hype to a Connor McDavid. He lived up to it at first, too.
i grew up playinghockey in the 80s and 90s i even had a lindros jersery. concussions werent really a thing spoken about. you just got your "bell rung" take a shift off maybe and get back in, i had post concussion syndrome 10yrs back i missed a full year of work. couldnt go outside without sun glasses. to this day earplugs in loud places even grocery stores.
Check out Don Cherry’s series of Rock ‘em Sock ‘em videos. They were produced for close to 20 years and showed the biggest fights, hits and some goals of the previous NHL season.
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I absolutely love (still) Big Buff! I’m also a Winnipeger and I love the Jets - I sure hope this season (soon 👏👏 !) is great for them. They deserve it - especially Helly! For your info Mert,Helly is our goalie - Connor Hellebuyck; Vezina Trophy winner (twice, including last season). This is the highest award for a goalie- best goalie in the NHL.
It’s very unfortunate, but I think some of these star players having their careers ruined by hits to the head was the only thing to get the league to stop it happening again. Check out Paul Kariya being hit by Scott Stevens (same punk who hit Lindros) Kariya was my favourite player growing up. He was never the same after. I saw an interview with him recently being conducted in his home. The journalist commented that he noticed that Paul had absolutely no Hockey memorabilia displayed. He has been traumatized.
Don't forget that when Lindros came into the league he laid out a lot of players with big hits so I don't feel sorry that he got what he dished out for so many years. I do feel bad about Paul Kariya who was one of my fav players. Also it was somewhat poetic justice for how Lindros screwed over Quebec and went to a franchise which was known for its hockey goons and poor sportsmanship over the years
Defenseman were taught to stand up at the blue line, force the play, Stevens owned that. All of his hits were within the rules at the time. Lindros had his head down, Kariya was admiring his pass instead of paying attention. Had he been aware, he would have known where the wrecking ball was on the ice and not gotten demolished. Hockey used to be a contact sport, now it's ballroom dancing.
@@DonKnight-qi4tu it was a late hit on Kariya, many of his hits principle contact was the opponents face. This has never been legal. Watch the Kariya hit and the announcers immediately say that’s interference. You know what? You don’t know hockey.
@@Foxtrotalex Have you ever laced up a pair of skates? The first two things you learn in hockey school, KEEP YOUR HEAD UP(Lindros), DON'T ADMIRE YOUR PASS(Kariya). The reason, it's a contact sport with D-men like Stevens. Kariya is also vertically challenged. He is 20cm shorter than me, leading with my shoulder, elbows in, my principle point of contact is his head, not because I'm dirty but because he is short.
Really good video, Very unfortunate what happened to Eric Lindros, The team medical crew where dreadful, There was no mention then ! of rest and recovery,
Concussions are a huge issue in hockey. When your body is skating along at whatever speed and suddenly stops in a violent collision, no helmet in the world can stop your floating brain from continuing on at that speed until it slams up against the inside of your skull. Despite this, nerds are trying to come up with a helmet that can help. What seems to have had a bigger impact are rule changes that discourage deliberate hits to the head like the ones you see in this video.
Lots of big guys playing now, but not necessarily elite players like the ones mentioned. He was unique at that time for being so big that he didn't need an "enforcer" teammate on the ice to protect him. Opponents took him on directly.
This guy is absolutely loathed in my home province of Quebec. He was drafted by a team that used to be called the Quebec Nordiques (now the Colorado Avalanche), signed a contract and then proceeded to refuse to play, would not speak French which greatly infuriated people. He was eventually traded away and had a decent but short career. To this day the guy's name in cursed in this Province
Why should anyone be forced to speak any language? Vlady Jr. used translators for many years in Toronto. Typical self-important francophone. Get a life.
@@dannymoe8911 French is the "official language" of Quebec and it has been tradition for players to learn and use some simple phrases, something he simply refused to do.
I met Eric Lindros in that time after he rejected the Nordiques (btw, my fave team as a kid), and he was an entitled jerk who was rude to me personally, as well as throwing his weight around. I'm sorry he got so many concussions because no one deserves head injuries. Having said that, every player has his weaknesses, and because he had such a high profile, his were easily exploited. Scott Stevens was a menace, and Lindros was a piece of crap.
@@robertsmith4681 English is also an official language of Canada. Your feelings do not supersede our right to freedom of expression in any way. Cry about it.
Eric Lindros was a fantastic hockey player. Everyone in Canada is familiar with this story. His brother was a great player as well, his career ended in the same way.
Eric Lindros really was the one to put concussions on the map. Before it was just give your head a shake and you’ll be fine. There have been many benefits that have come about because of the spotlight that shone on this injury. My husband is one who did benefit by the treatments that came about. Concussions have a cumulative effect over time. A small hit in any sport can yield a devastating outcome. Eventually husband had to retire from his office job at an earlier date. We have been married for 41 years and I have had to help him rebuild earlier memories. He was the guy who never forgot anything…now he has difficulty trusting his memory. It’s a very sad thing and a serious matter. Don’t just shake it off…get treatment.
Collisions on the hockey rink can happen at almost twice the speeds of football collisions. Concussions are inevitable. Hockey "enforcers" get in more fights furthering their concussion risks.
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at the time he was a very big foward, still would be.. they are absolutely just as big if not bigger now but dont look as big as equipment has gotten smaller the game has got faster and hitting has been limited a lot. still would be an amazing player in todays league because you can get away more with your head down forsure
It is a hard-nosed sport and people take hits like that almost every week. It wasn't even the most severe hit I've seen. But Lindros just happened to be susceptible to concussion. Luckily, Eric was smart enough to know that he could not stay in hockey with that disability and retired. Apparently he's fine now.
Hits like this don't exist anymore. Bettman has turned the league into a sissy league. Expansion has only made it worse. Top grossing teams (Toronto, NYR, Montreal) fit the bill for the lower grossing teams. Teams that aren't making the money.
Eric Lindros actually had a great career, he just could have done that much more. Holding out means looking to other teams for a contract that's more generous. He refused to play for Quebec's team at the time because he felt they had zero desire to win. The old hats thought he was being a precious baby, essentially. As no one ever refuses their first contract anywhere. His brother Brett Lindros had a less storied career. He got a bad concussion early on and really did miss out on potentially being a big star.
I can't remember anything except hearing about Lindros. But then you didn't hear anything about him. Hockey is getting more and more dirty now. Because everybody is over 6 ft and at least 200 lb. So the only speedy guys are the ones that do the assists
'holdout' - yeah, refusing to sign with the team. Since the team owned his rights, he was trying to force them to trade him to a bigger market city. Rumors were that he didn't like French Canada (he ended up marrying a French Canadian woman!), and that he didn't think he would get endorsement $ in Quebec.
Scott Stevens wouldn't get away with the kind of shit he pulled back then in the current day thankfully but the NHL still has a long way to go when it comes to player health and safety
Sorry to tell him that, but Maurice Richard is also a physical player and a talented scorer. :) Lindros is a great player, but saying that it was never seem before is far from a stretch...
one of the most hated players at the start of his career for refusing to play for the team that signed him. Quebec lost their 1rst round pick because he refused to suit up. The draft is designed to have the team that finished last the year before pick first, in a way to help improve the level of the game across the entire league. An he fucked with that process. Thought he was better than the entire league. So when his career ended there was very few people sad about it.
He didn't screw anything up. Lindros made it clear long before they drafted him that he wouldn't play for that owner. They drafted him anyways and yes, he refused to play. They traded him and got a return. That's on the team, not Lindros
This was NOT a dirty hit and was legal at the time (although there's an argument that could be made for elbowing here). Totally illegal now, but yeah, head targeting wasn't a thing back then.
The NHL is unfortunately an embarrassment to the sport of hockey. The amount of superstars that have been impacted by unnecessary injuries is long. NHL would rather hide impacts of concussions than do anything about it, because they fear facing lawsuits for allowing fighting & headshots over the years.
I disliked lindros from the start and think there was no better way for his career to end, in my opinion, he got what he deserved! Now he was a great player in his prime, and he really could have been "the next one". I don't want to take that away from him, but his attitude at the draft by refusing to play for quebec, just showed his true character. But also, that hit was very dirty.
He refused because of that specific owner, not because it was a French team. How can so many make the same comment without actually knowing the truth? Research is not difficult
@@jeffreycairns767 Where in my comment did I mention language, or playing for a french team? Oh, wait I didn't. I've done my research and formulated my opinion based on that (including what Eric said later is an interview with sportsnet). So based on your "research", "truth" and comprehension of my above posted comment, I'm not calling you the dumbest person alive, but you better hope they don't pass away.
@@Studley2 You said "his attitude at the draft by refusing to play for Quebec just showed his true character". His character was fine. You make it sound like his character is questioned because he refused to play for Quebec when it had nothing to do with refusing to play for the team specifically.
Lindros refused to sign for the Quebec Nordiques...that was the end of his career in my arrogant opionion...wait so was he arrogant for not have signed...
He was a highly skilled player but also very dirty player even considering he played during a pretty dirty era . He got what was coming to him … players keep tabs on guys like this .
Lindros helped open a Concussion Hospital in London Ontario, my home town
mine too. Hey fellow Londoner
in present days concussion are taken seriously in hockey
btw did lindros' life went well after he retired? many people who had several concussion get depressed or end up badly in some way 😟
I didn't know much about hockey when he was playing. But I remember hearing a lot about him and I am happy to hear that he's giving back but he just hit that last hit and that was it dirty hit
I grew up playing ice hockey in the 90's... before I was 18yrs old I already had 5 concussions. 1 major one that actually ended me playing hockey. I still get migraines to this day that I never had as a kid. Back then they just called it "getting your bell rung" you would shake it off and get back on the ice.
Scott Stevens took out a few players with his open ice hits, the way he put his shoulder into chest/neck area was crushing. At the time it was deemed a legal check, a couple years later, it was illegal to contact the head with a check.
Those were nasty hits but not dirty. Ulf Samuleson was a dirty hitter
@@mitchd4929 I mean he intentionally tried and succeeded in injuring many players who were the opposing teams best player. He was a punk. Don’t stand up for him. My guess you don’t know hockey very well
@@Foxtrotalex He was a head hunter. He'd only hit if he could blindside the player
@@Foxtrotalex You're a real pussboy eh?
@@jeffreycairns767 What? How old are you? Did you watch these games or just youtube clips?
Lindros was hurt badly before even playing this game - he had a long history of serious concussions, and came back WAY too early trying to be a 'leader' and 'tough'.
There are 3 major facts to consider:
1) Concussions were not taken seriously in hockey prior the Lindros situation
2) His family had a history of concussion problems. His brother Brett had to retire before his career even got going because of concussions.
3) Eric was a giant. Bigger and stronger than anyone else. So he had a habit of skating across the ice with his head down - suicidal in hockey terms. He got away with it until he reached the NHL where there were a few (still not many) that were big, strong, mean, and brave enough to be willing to collide with a 6'4 240lb monster flying across the ice.
Point 3 is the real key to Lindros' problems.
@@Gerhardium Indeed. Later he was hellishly checked by Darius Kasparaitis who just didn't know what fear is. Kasparaitis exploited the lowered head by simply blocking Lindros who got seriously concussed.
Always was told "Keep your head up".
He had his head down a lot and paid the price.
You never saw Gretzky do that.
He knew better.
Gretzky was in a bubble provided by semenko
If someone hit Gretzky like that, they got kicked out of the NHL. If you even looked at him the wrong way, McSorley kicked your a**. Without McSorley, Gretzky would not had half the points in the NHL.
@@larrynelson4909 Gretzky wasn't laying out fools on the ice either :) Had Lindros adopted a style like Lemieux (who was a physical force and a monster in QMJH as well but changed when he got to the NHL) people wouldn't have lit him up.
@@KnutHelgeMidttun In 1996 Kasparaitis smashed Gretzky and 30 seconds later scored a goal :) So no, Gretzky had his hits.
The biggest issue is that they do not "officially" track concussions for players in the minor leagues. Eric's brother Brett lasted only 51 games in the NHL because of concussion issues. It's likely they both had multiple concussions in juniors as well. He was 6'4" and 215lbs and while not a offensively talented as Eric he was a dominant player.
A tragedy all the way around.
Another excellent player that had to retire due to concussions was Pat Lafontaine. Possibly one of the best American players of all time had his career not been cut short.
Basically, Lindros couldn't decide whether he wanted to be a goon or a star scorer. There's an old saying that "what goes around comes around". If, as a player, you go around trying to injure other players, then sooner or later, someone's going to get you back and it doesn't matter how big or tough you are. That's what happened to Lindros.
concussions were a HUGE talking point. A group of players successfully sued the NHL for encouraging them to keep playing despite hits to the head - and they suffered long-term problems... Now there's a big concussion protocol, etc. any time a potential concussion is detected.
This hit, while not the official reason for the rule change, was the rallying call to get fans on side with the rule change. The change had not happened by the time of the Paul Kariya hit. The rule outlawing all hits to the head was introduced for the 2010/2011 season. The manager of the Philadelphia Flyers at the time was the NHL's version of Roy Keane to give you insight into the team side of the picture.
made me look up who Roy Keane is, but that's a great Bobby Clarke comparison
@@mitchd4929 Just imagine one of the most badass soccer players in the 1990s England - that was Roy Keane.
I was playing hockey during this period. A lot of the equipment that came out in the mid to late 90's had hard plastic on the exterior of the padding (elbow pads and shoulder pads).
Eric Lindros did not want to play for the Sault Ste. Marie Greyhounds in the OHL. He also refused to play in the NHL for the Quebec Nordiques. After several years with Philly, he eventually wanted out of the Philadelphia Flyers franchise and specified that he wanted to be traded to the Toronto Maple Leafs in the NHL.
The way that upcoming young players are assigned to different NHL teams is absolutely criminal. If it was any other business, the NHL would be sued for restricting competition. Each year, all the prospective professionals in Junior hockey are drafted and become the property of the teams that choose them in an organized "draft". The chosen players have only one team they can play for and for many of them, the pay they can receive is many times less than they would earn in a free market. I really supported Lindros' stance in not wanting to play for the team that drafted him and refusing to sign a contract. I'm amazed that it doesn't happen more often.
Might be a bit of a long comment but to answer as many questions as I can
1. Lindros was everything people predicted he would be when he was a kid. An absolute phenom
2. A “holdout” is when a player refuses to sign a contract with the team that owns his employment right. Being drafted is only the 1st step. You must also sign a contract before playing
3. Scott Stevens is in the hockey hall of fame and wasn’t just a dirty player. A great scorer among defensmen in his younger years he became the most feared player in the league because of hits like this
4. These hits are suspension worthy today, not at the time. While very malicious (yes he did it on purpose) they weren’t viewed as exceedingly dirty
5. Hockey has a very macho culture. The more pain you can endure the more respected you are. Concussions weren’t viewed as overly serious but injuries at the time as well. Having said that it was on the team to protect him, even from potentially himself if he was the one pushing to play
6. Players are bigger, stronger and more skilled today, but not to the degree of Lindros. He would still be 1 of 1 in todays NHL
Lindros's performance in the Canada Cup, while still technically a junior, is one of the most impressive athletic feats I've ever witnessed. He was 17-18 overpowering grown ass men in their 30's. I think he was on the gas, he just had far too much muscle mass at 16 years old. Nothing wrong with it, I just think there is a lot in common with Mr Lindros (Eric's dad) and Fritz Von Erich
Players are not necessarily bigger, definitely not stronger, and I wouldn't even say that much more skilled. Take most of the hits out, fights out, lighter equipment, etc., you have today's players. The league is full of sissies today, especially compared to the old days, aka the real hockey days
I remember watching Lindros playing in the Junior league and he was a beast on skates at his height
Should watch the Todd Bertuzi sucker punch that ruined a mans career as well
Mario Lemieux played a very similar style while in the Quebec Major Junior Hockey League, but changed as soon as he got the the NHL. Some blame his earlier style on his lingering injuries throughout his career.,
Eric Lindros' career was already pretty much over because of hits he had taken previously. This one was definitely the last straw. He was always bigger and stronger than the other kids growing up and didn't learn how to take a hit properly. You could see it in every hit where he fell like he was shot, flat out like a plank of wood. Plus, concussions were not really understood back then.
Lindros nearly died due to a punctured lung. The team doctor missed it and at this time you werent able to seek a 2nd opinion outsode of the organization. Lindros is responsible for the change innprocedure and now every player can seek a 2nd opinion outside the organzation by their prefered doctor. If he had never done anything else, this alone made him an incredibly influential player for player safety.
The penalty box is where you go when you're bad on the ice.
Concussions are a HUGE issue in hockey probably even more today than back then. More understanding of the lasting effects concussions have come to be understood. Overall the size of players has increased over the years. There are many guys the size of Lindros today. The great Sidney Crosby has had problems with concussions in the modern game. Many players have. It is considered to be part of the game. Sad but true.
Yes, he was definitely highly rated. "A 6'4" 240lb Gretzky". He was going to CHANGE the game, not just dominate it. Equivalent hype to a Connor McDavid. He lived up to it at first, too.
I've never seen that hit before. Crazy!
i grew up playinghockey in the 80s and 90s i even had a lindros jersery. concussions werent really a thing spoken about. you just got your "bell rung" take a shift off maybe and get back in, i had post concussion syndrome 10yrs back i missed a full year of work. couldnt go outside without sun glasses. to this day earplugs in loud places even grocery stores.
Check out Don Cherry’s series of Rock ‘em Sock ‘em videos. They were produced for close to 20 years and showed the biggest fights, hits and some goals of the previous NHL season.
Agree 💯% on checking out "Dustin Byfuglien" By far the greatest defensive player for the (Winnipeg Jet's). 🇨🇦 🇺🇸 My favorite since we came back into the NHL sphere that's forsure. The man is absolutely loved by our city and many other NHL fan's 🏒
I absolutely love (still) Big Buff! I’m also a Winnipeger and I love the Jets - I sure hope this season (soon 👏👏 !) is great for them. They deserve it - especially Helly! For your info Mert,Helly is our goalie - Connor Hellebuyck; Vezina Trophy winner (twice, including last season). This is the highest award for a goalie- best goalie in the NHL.
Don't worry, it's only a matter of time before the Jets are gone..... AGAIN
Paul Kariya was an incredible skill player as well. Unfortunately he was small, and like Lindros he was steamrolled by a Scott Stevens check.
Should have been Ottawa's #1 and not Alexandre Daigle. All the hockey writers were adamant about it too.
Mert, seriously, "Why Uber won't work in Newfoundland".
Lindros was supposed to start with NHL Quebec Nordiques which became Colorado Avalanche who won the Stanley Cup but the route he took he never won it.
It’s very unfortunate, but I think some of these star players having their careers ruined by hits to the head was the only thing to get the league to stop it happening again. Check out Paul Kariya being hit by Scott Stevens (same punk who hit Lindros) Kariya was my favourite player growing up. He was never the same after. I saw an interview with him recently being conducted in his home. The journalist commented that he noticed that Paul had absolutely no Hockey memorabilia displayed. He has been traumatized.
Don't forget that when Lindros came into the league he laid out a lot of players with big hits so I don't feel sorry that he got what he dished out for so many years. I do feel bad about Paul Kariya who was one of my fav players.
Also it was somewhat poetic justice for how Lindros screwed over Quebec and went to a franchise which was known for its hockey goons and poor sportsmanship over the years
Defenseman were taught to stand up at the blue line, force the play, Stevens owned that. All of his hits were within the rules at the time. Lindros had his head down, Kariya was admiring his pass instead of paying attention. Had he been aware, he would have known where the wrecking ball was on the ice and not gotten demolished. Hockey used to be a contact sport, now it's ballroom dancing.
@@DonKnight-qi4tu it was a late hit on Kariya, many of his hits principle contact was the opponents face. This has never been legal. Watch the Kariya hit and the announcers immediately say that’s interference. You know what? You don’t know hockey.
@@Foxtrotalex Have you ever laced up a pair of skates? The first two things you learn in hockey school, KEEP YOUR HEAD UP(Lindros), DON'T ADMIRE YOUR PASS(Kariya). The reason, it's a contact sport with D-men like Stevens. Kariya is also vertically challenged. He is 20cm shorter than me, leading with my shoulder, elbows in, my principle point of contact is his head, not because I'm dirty but because he is short.
Back then that was a clean hit. today it would be a penalty for a blind side hit
Really good video, Very unfortunate what happened to Eric Lindros, The team medical crew where dreadful, There was no mention then ! of rest and recovery,
Concussions are a huge issue in hockey. When your body is skating along at whatever speed and suddenly stops in a violent collision, no helmet in the world can stop your floating brain from continuing on at that speed until it slams up against the inside of your skull.
Despite this, nerds are trying to come up with a helmet that can help. What seems to have had a bigger impact are rule changes that discourage deliberate hits to the head like the ones you see in this video.
Lots of big guys playing now, but not necessarily elite players like the ones mentioned. He was unique at that time for being so big that he didn't need an "enforcer" teammate on the ice to protect him. Opponents took him on directly.
Keep your head up! Hockey 101
This guy is absolutely loathed in my home province of Quebec. He was drafted by a team that used to be called the Quebec Nordiques (now the Colorado Avalanche), signed a contract and then proceeded to refuse to play, would not speak French which greatly infuriated people. He was eventually traded away and had a decent but short career. To this day the guy's name in cursed in this Province
Why should anyone be forced to speak any language? Vlady Jr. used translators for many years in Toronto. Typical self-important francophone. Get a life.
@@dannymoe8911 French is the "official language" of Quebec and it has been tradition for players to learn and use some simple phrases, something he simply refused to do.
I met Eric Lindros in that time after he rejected the Nordiques (btw, my fave team as a kid), and he was an entitled jerk who was rude to me personally, as well as throwing his weight around. I'm sorry he got so many concussions because no one deserves head injuries. Having said that, every player has his weaknesses, and because he had such a high profile, his were easily exploited. Scott Stevens was a menace, and Lindros was a piece of crap.
Yeah, I remember when he did that. I thought then he was a bit of a jerk.
@@robertsmith4681 English is also an official language of Canada. Your feelings do not supersede our right to freedom of expression in any way. Cry about it.
Eric Lindros was a fantastic hockey player. Everyone in Canada is familiar with this story. His brother was a great player as well, his career ended in the same way.
Eric Lindros really was the one to put concussions on the map. Before it was just give your head a shake and you’ll be fine. There have been many benefits that have come about because of the spotlight that shone on this injury.
My husband is one who did benefit by the treatments that came about. Concussions have a cumulative effect over time. A small hit in any sport can yield a devastating outcome.
Eventually husband had to retire from his office job at an earlier date. We have been married for 41 years and I have had to help him rebuild earlier memories. He was the guy who never forgot anything…now he has difficulty trusting his memory. It’s a very sad thing and a serious matter. Don’t just shake it off…get treatment.
Scott Stevens was the hardest open ice hitter, most of his hits were deemed legal hits, if you played New Jersey you better know he is on the ice
You should also check out the scott Steven's hit on Paul kariya (if I spelt his name right)
We’ve still seen very few great offensive players that are also physical. With the exception of Ovechkin who did both better than most in history.
Collisions on the hockey rink can happen at almost twice the speeds of football collisions. Concussions are inevitable. Hockey "enforcers" get in more fights furthering their concussion risks.
Should check out Dustin Byfuglien
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NHL Hockey is a brutal sport... that's why we love it!
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at the time he was a very big foward, still would be.. they are absolutely just as big if not bigger now but dont look as big as equipment has gotten smaller the game has got faster and hitting has been limited a lot. still would be an amazing player in todays league because you can get away more with your head down forsure
At the time, those Scott Stevens hits were legal and quite common, Stevens was just the best at it
It is a hard-nosed sport and people take hits like that almost every week. It wasn't even the most severe hit I've seen. But Lindros just happened to be susceptible to concussion. Luckily, Eric was smart enough to know that he could not stay in hockey with that disability and retired. Apparently he's fine now.
Hits like this don't exist anymore. Bettman has turned the league into a sissy league. Expansion has only made it worse. Top grossing teams (Toronto, NYR, Montreal) fit the bill for the lower grossing teams. Teams that aren't making the money.
Scott Stevens was known for dirty hits.
Eric Lindros actually had a great career, he just could have done that much more. Holding out means looking to other teams for a contract that's more generous. He refused to play for Quebec's team at the time because he felt they had zero desire to win. The old hats thought he was being a precious baby, essentially. As no one ever refuses their first contract anywhere. His brother Brett Lindros had a less storied career. He got a bad concussion early on and really did miss out on potentially being a big star.
Scott Stevens should be sued by all those guys.
In hockey, they are called body checks not tackles.
Terrible what happened to him but strangely karma sort of got him after what he did to the Nordiques in Québec.
I can't remember anything except hearing about Lindros. But then you didn't hear anything about him. Hockey is getting more and more dirty now. Because everybody is over 6 ft and at least 200 lb. So the only speedy guys are the ones that do the assists
'holdout' - yeah, refusing to sign with the team. Since the team owned his rights, he was trying to force them to trade him to a bigger market city. Rumors were that he didn't like French Canada (he ended up marrying a French Canadian woman!), and that he didn't think he would get endorsement $ in Quebec.
Yeah, all rumors. It's was the owner that he refused to play for, not the French
Scott Stevens wouldn't get away with the kind of shit he pulled back then in the current day thankfully but the NHL still has a long way to go when it comes to player health and safety
There are rules now about hits to the head and intent, but there weren't then. These rules came into being because of this hit and others like it.
Sorry to tell him that, but Maurice Richard is also a physical player and a talented scorer.
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Lindros is a great player, but saying that it was never seem before is far from a stretch...
one of the most hated players at the start of his career for refusing to play for the team that signed him. Quebec lost their 1rst round pick because he refused to suit up. The draft is designed to have the team that finished last the year before pick first, in a way to help improve the level of the game across the entire league. An he fucked with that process. Thought he was better than the entire league.
So when his career ended there was very few people sad about it.
He didn't screw anything up. Lindros made it clear long before they drafted him that he wouldn't play for that owner. They drafted him anyways and yes, he refused to play. They traded him and got a return. That's on the team, not Lindros
This was NOT a dirty hit and was legal at the time (although there's an argument that could be made for elbowing here). Totally illegal now, but yeah, head targeting wasn't a thing back then.
I'm 6'4" on skates. If those skates are 11".
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mama's boy, couldn't keep his head up
The NHL is unfortunately an embarrassment to the sport of hockey. The amount of superstars that have been impacted by unnecessary injuries is long. NHL would rather hide impacts of concussions than do anything about it, because they fear facing lawsuits for allowing fighting & headshots over the years.
Stevens ended some really good players’ careers
Also that hit would have gotten Stevens thrown out of the league if it was done today
@@westonkingwell314 That's why he wouldn't play that way today :)
7:58 Scott Stevens is a scum bag but like the narrator said Lindros skates with his head down, that hit was %100 Lindros's fault
One word. Kookoobanana's.
I disliked lindros from the start and think there was no better way for his career to end, in my opinion, he got what he deserved! Now he was a great player in his prime, and he really could have been "the next one". I don't want to take that away from him, but his attitude at the draft by refusing to play for quebec, just showed his true character. But also, that hit was very dirty.
He refused because of that specific owner, not because it was a French team. How can so many make the same comment without actually knowing the truth? Research is not difficult
@@jeffreycairns767 Where in my comment did I mention language, or playing for a french team? Oh, wait I didn't. I've done my research and formulated my opinion based on that (including what Eric said later is an interview with sportsnet). So based on your "research", "truth" and comprehension of my above posted comment, I'm not calling you the dumbest person alive, but you better hope they don't pass away.
@@Studley2 You said "his attitude at the draft by refusing to play for Quebec just showed his true character". His character was fine. You make it sound like his character is questioned because he refused to play for Quebec when it had nothing to do with refusing to play for the team specifically.
Why are people recommending this to a Scottish guy that has no interest in hockey??
There's no red card in hockey
Oh ya 6.4 is average now.
At the time that was a legal hit
Lindros refused to sign for the Quebec Nordiques...that was the end of his career in my arrogant opionion...wait so was he arrogant for not have signed...
Lindros was a stupid bully... Karma is a bitch!
Yes, Stevens did it on purpose. It's why nobody cared when he started to suffer Post Concussion Syndrome himself.
Scott Steven's was a cheap shot artists...
He was dumb and injury prone and never kept his head up so concussion after concussion after concussion
The players now are big and fast!!!
He was a highly skilled player but also very dirty player even considering he played during a pretty dirty era .
He got what was coming to him … players keep tabs on guys like this .
Stevens warned Lindros not to skate with his head down.