Having just started my private practice, I a re-visiting so many things, and Gloria was one of them. Thank you so much for this video. Very sad that she passed away so young, but the role she played was truly influential. Will definitely check out the book!
There are accounts of Gloria stating that she thought that Perls that the biggest effect on her, however there is some discussion in the research I undertook that this statement may have been influenced by Dr Everett Shostrom the maker of the film and a friend of Perls. Gloria went on record a stating that the 'tender minded' approach of Rogers would suit a novice to therapy and she did keep in touch with him for 15 years after the film was made which says a lot .
Bless Gloria and her daughter. She shows an authenticity and sweetness in those sessions -sometimes in contrast to the rigid formalising of the -at that time -"experts",
Quick question, I think I saw a different ending of the show, and that is Gloria's immediate choice of who she would work with after the three therapy's. I think she chose Perls, is that correct? And then obviously went Rogers.
Hi. A very good and enjoyable overview. I looked into the Gloria films and case a few years back, and just thought to look at some of the videos again recently. I find Gloria to be the heart and soul of those films, and a charming presence. I was wondering if you know whether there is any truth to the idea that after filming, she ultimately selected Perls as the man that she would most likely continue therapy with? I heard (I believe Ellis stated this) that she thought that he would be the most challenging, and she thought that perhaps that was what she needed (apparently Rogers was most surprised by this). (I also heard a story that Perls, after filming, got her to hold out her hand and used it as an ashtray, much to her dislike.) Unfortunately, I can't recall where it was that I read this information, but I've studied psychology and the source was credible to me at the time. I thought you may know. The same source also described the events you mention above, at the psychotherapy workshop, where Gloria rose to her feet. Best, J.
I've just read some of the comments below, which mentioned some of the information that I read in the past, too, and only now recall! (Such as Shostrom being a friend of Perls, with the suggestion that he influenced her to cite Perls as the man she would most likely continue therapy with.) Thanks. J
gloria is a textbook example of a covert narcissist and I bet carl NEVER picked up on that: impulsive behavior; refusal to take responsibility; needs outside acceptance and adoration; can't behave within morals; wants people to accept her for being a liar (which creates her obsession with honesty-- because she has none!); she basically wants respect without acting respectable. Oh and her claiming she feels guilt? Don't forget the number one thing narcissists and other psychopaths like to fake are FEELINGS. It's just convenient to use guilt as an excuse because it makes it looks like she cares enough. If she cared, though, she would change her behavior so as to not feel guilt - and that's just basic psychology ("oh this hurts when I sleep around, so maybe I shouldn't sleep around" is the healthy person's negotiation of guilty feelings -- when they are really felt, not just used as an excuse). Sheesh! ALL the red flags -- it's a parade!!
These are very judgemental statements. I don't see this in her at all, and so I wonder if you're hanging a projection onto her because you have an axe to grind about narcissists?
I am a new student to the Psychotherapy field and happy to have come across this after watching the Gloria/Carl Rogers interaction. Thank you kindly!
Having just started my private practice, I a re-visiting so many things, and Gloria was one of them. Thank you so much for this video. Very sad that she passed away so young, but the role she played was truly influential. Will definitely check out the book!
There are accounts of Gloria stating that she thought that Perls that the biggest effect on her, however there is some discussion in the research I undertook that this statement may have been influenced by Dr Everett Shostrom the maker of the film and a friend of Perls.
Gloria went on record a stating that the 'tender minded' approach of Rogers would suit a novice to therapy and she did keep in touch with him for 15 years after the film was made which says a lot .
interested to know she had a session with perls. I'm going to search it now. thanks!
She was such a courageous woman…..she kicked arse with her fearlessness to be vulnerable 👑 I’m sooo impressed!
Knowing about the relationship that developed after, for me was a demonstration of the UPR of what Rogers displayed with his very being.
It also demonstrated Rogers transference and wobbly boundaries
@@Counsellingtutor1 😆I can’t argue with that one!
Thanks a lot for taking the time to gather this additional information; it has been really helpful!
Bless Gloria and her daughter. She shows an authenticity and sweetness in those sessions -sometimes in contrast to the rigid formalising of the -at that time -"experts",
Thank's for your feedback, the book is very good an a must read fro anyone who has an interest in Carl Rogers.
Thanks for making this video! Pam's book sounds like a very interesting read. Wouldn't have found out about it had it not been for this video.
Thanks for this many additional informations. It's very usefull.
Quick question, I think I saw a different ending of the show, and that is Gloria's immediate choice of who she would work with after the three therapy's. I think she chose Perls, is that correct? And then obviously went Rogers.
I also saw this ending - shame it's not on youtube...!
You are welcome .
Rory
Thanks for this, and thanks Gloria
Hi. A very good and enjoyable overview. I looked into the Gloria films and case a few years back, and just thought to look at some of the videos again recently. I find Gloria to be the heart and soul of those films, and a charming presence. I was wondering if you know whether there is any truth to the idea that after filming, she ultimately selected Perls as the man that she would most likely continue therapy with? I heard (I believe Ellis stated this) that she thought that he would be the most challenging, and she thought that perhaps that was what she needed (apparently Rogers was most surprised by this). (I also heard a story that Perls, after filming, got her to hold out her hand and used it as an ashtray, much to her dislike.) Unfortunately, I can't recall where it was that I read this information, but I've studied psychology and the source was credible to me at the time. I thought you may know. The same source also described the events you mention above, at the psychotherapy workshop, where Gloria rose to her feet. Best, J.
I've just read some of the comments below, which mentioned some of the information that I read in the past, too, and only now recall! (Such as Shostrom being a friend of Perls, with the suggestion that he influenced her to cite Perls as the man she would most likely continue therapy with.) Thanks. J
how do you know with certainly the truth of these myth statements?
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gloria is a textbook example of a covert narcissist and I bet carl NEVER picked up on that: impulsive behavior; refusal to take responsibility; needs outside acceptance and adoration; can't behave within morals; wants people to accept her for being a liar (which creates her obsession with honesty-- because she has none!); she basically wants respect without acting respectable. Oh and her claiming she feels guilt? Don't forget the number one thing narcissists and other psychopaths like to fake are FEELINGS. It's just convenient to use guilt as an excuse because it makes it looks like she cares enough. If she cared, though, she would change her behavior so as to not feel guilt - and that's just basic psychology ("oh this hurts when I sleep around, so maybe I shouldn't sleep around" is the healthy person's negotiation of guilty feelings -- when they are really felt, not just used as an excuse). Sheesh! ALL the red flags -- it's a parade!!
These are very judgemental statements. I don't see this in her at all, and so I wonder if you're hanging a projection onto her because you have an axe to grind about narcissists?
Sounds like this field isn’t the right one for you…