Just a quick note- some viewers have asked about it and I measured it. If you're looking at using this particular unit with a vertical GPU in the NR200, the pump and tubing run can results in potential GPU compatibility issues if your GPU is long. On the inside of the case I measured roughly 310mm between the pump and the rear of the case, which means that if you are planning on a long GPU take note. The 3070 and 3080 Founders edition cards all mount without issue.
Speaking of dimensions: It looks like bottom-mounting the GPU is definitely a no-go with this cooler in its stock form. Would thin fans provide enough clearance for a double-slot GPU; or is vertical GPU orientation the only way to make it work?
since the pump is only attached to one of the tubes, can the pump housing be removed and the pump rotated to allow for easier installation and better GPU clearance?
So I’m actually using this in my current nr200 build I put the fans on the opposite sides of the pump/lines in the suggested push configuration (pressure optimized fans) and it gave me a little more flexibility to side mount it with the lines/pump testing against the PSU shroud Now I’m not 100% sure everything will fit but will know in a few days
Actually that's not the case at all. This particular design isn't theirs, only difference with original reeven is nickel plated block. Fans also ofc. This wasn't developed from 0, also the pump is located there5because of the shity patent held by greedy asotek. It just happens that its specific points might suit well to some of us. There's also some more aio's which might be used as bottom mounted... alphacool has 2, ekwb old one with leakege issues and pump beside the rad, raijintek has one etc.
I bought and installed this cooler a few days back, and I must say: the pump is NOT quiet at all. It makes a constant whistling sound which becomes a lot irritating over time. Before this, I used a CoolerMaster Seidon 240V and its pump didn't make any sound, not like this one. Every reviewer says that it makes no sound at all, so I wonder is this a unique problem with mine?
Such an impressive feat for the BeQuiet unit to match the Arctic Freezer given how much thinner the radiator is! I have been trying to figure out a way to bottom mount a rad in my Lian Li O11 Mini and this is beginning to look like the clear winner. Thanks for the thorough review.
The plastic housing on the pump can be removed, so it may give you more flexibility in mounting it. Although not sure how it would affect noise/vibration.
I've found the pump noise to be pretty loud on my pure loop unit. It causes a low frequency hum that appears to resonate out of the case. Kind of annoying. I might consider switching to a galahad 240 since that at the least has a fill port you can top off every year. Why they didn't give you control of pump speeds on this unit is beyond me
I recently bought this and swapped out the stock fans with Noctua 120mm PWMs, and it worked well. I think the anti-vibration silicone padding may have also helped to reduce any vibrations from reverberating from inside my case (I've installed the Pure Loop in a top mounted position in a Fractal Design Define R5).
Thank you very much for this video, i was thinking about it with the Be Quiet AIO's. in combination with the cooler master NR200P I'm definitely going to buy this AIO
I was looking into getting the 280mm version of this to put in a new smaller case and was wondering about that bottom mounting issue and you answered my question exactly so thank you
I went with air cooling on my NR200P because of concerns over bottom mounted AIOs. This might just be in the shopping list for when I want to use my TG panel and vertically mount my GPU.
Great review! You're the only channel that I found that shows different mounting orientations for the Pure Loop 240 in a case like the NR200P. I was looking to get this for a build in the SAMA IM01 (basically a NR200P clone) but have decided against it, since it has a MATX board in it. Thanks for your time.
Nice review and I'm glad you mentioned the loudness of the pump. I think it is something most of these AIO cooler reviews miss is the level of pump noise. It's an area although I understand isn't common is important to me and I think is the reason many of us just have always gone air cooled. Maybe it's a pipe dream, but some of these AIOs pumps are just too noisy.
if they only used Turnable connectors on the Reservoir, this AIO would be next level. Though the best part is still the price, that you are allowed to refill it under warranty, and it not having RGB.
Thankfully the NZXT Kraken X63 was able to be front mounted with the tubes coming up from the bottom. Case is Phanteks P400S and I absolutely love the AIO mainly due to how easy it is to install. CPU temps idle run 28 Celsius on average, old air cooler cpu temp was around 32 idle.
I ended up going with a 280mm and thin 240 radiators for my nr200. I used the iceman reservoir to make my custom loop happen. It was a really easy mod to fit it on the back.
@@MachinesMore yes. It requires making a very small cut with a dremel and then taking off the vertical gpu cover. It screws on the existing holes for the rear fan.
i picked this exact AIO up last week and it's terrific. the only part i was concerned about was even cold plate mounting pressure since it only has 2 screws attaching it to the motherboard but that doesn't seem to be a problem at all. it's quiet, relatively cheap, no RGB (thank god), and actually available unlike the arctic liquid freezer II.
Steve, I was also concerned with the two screw mounting solution too but was very impressed- thermal paste pattern was smooth and flat as ever. They did a good job with it. Glad you are liking it!
Thanks a lot for your exhaustive work in charting cooling solutions in the NR200P! Given all your work so far, what would you say is the best, quiet solution for an NR200P build with an NVIDIA GeForce 3080? I have an MSI Gaming Trio on the way, and would love to hear your recommendation! I'm leaning towards the BeQuiet AIO you've shown here, but wondering what you would recommend in terms of how to mount the GFX card. Vertical/horizontal? Would deshrouding be an option somehow?
As soon as I saw the Pure Loop, I ummed and erred about buying it for a bottom mount in my NR200P wondering if it could overcome the issues that Asetek coolers apparently have in that configuration. In the end I went with the U12-A as a reliable air-cooled solution since there are plenty of reviews and real-world examples of it. This video doesn't make me regret my decision, but I'm glad to see a detailed look at it, and that the cooler has been noticed as a potential solution for a bottom-mounted AIO (or some other 'non-optimal' configuration) not only for this case but others as well.
@@MachinesMore with the bottom mount configuration you show here with the 3070FE, would there also be enough width to fit a 3080? It looks a lot like the pump will interfere with card length and perhaps depth clearance
For fit, yes. But in terms of performance, it’s debatable. The MSI Coreliquid was partially impacted by the loss of rad space because of the in rad pump.
Thanks for this video! - I am swapping out my cooler master AIO for this one. running the rad on the side panel is just a total cluster when it comes to arranging the cables in the rest of NR200P. Going to try the Vertical GPU mount as well and see how it goes.
You don't know how grateful I am for finding your channel. Legit, the most descriptive, detailed builds on the NR200 ft. RTX 3080. Just one question, is it possible to run a vertical GPU RTX 3080 with a 240mm AIO inside the NR200 (with a considerate temp)?
Hey Jason, you’re very kind and I am glad you enjoy the content. I assume you’re hoping to use the tempered glass panel. In general I’d say yes but two things will help- 1) thinner gpu so it’s not choked off. The closer to 2 slots the better. 2) strong airflow either top down or bottom up, make sure you balance the airflow from the bottom to top. Here is where some quality rad and case fans help, so that you can just lock them to 1200RPM and lock case fans to a little less. What you’re trying to avoid is air going out or in the back panel since if your fan setup is negative pressure, some GPU exhaust could be sucked back in. If it’s positive, then that cool air is bypassing the GPU fans somewhat and just exiting out the back. There will a video coming later in the week with some thermal benchmarks involving a vGPU, that may help your planning.
@@MachinesMore Once again, I cannot thank you enough for such details and yes, I forgot to mention about the tempered glass panel. I am looking forward for your upcoming videos. Great content as always, and hopefully you can earn more subs in the future. Wishing you the best brother! 👍
You should do a double dual radiator test! A hybrid gpu (say like evga xc3 hybrid 3080) on the side mount and the pure loops on the bottom of the case. Interested to see if that would fit
I would really like to know the answer to this as well , since I just ordered the xc3 hybrid 3090 and the pure loop 240. Hoping I can put the pure loop on the bottom and the GPU 240mm rad on the side, or possibly top with modding. Would be great to hear what the channel thinks!
This is exactly the video I was looking for! Unfortunately I found it after I had already ordered my NR200 and Be Quiet Pure Loop 280mm AIO. They come tomorrow so I might have to return the AIO and get the smaller one, or watch your NR200 AIO video again to see which one you recommend most. Follow up: I am happy to say I had NO issues side mounting the Pure Loop 280mm in the NR200. So far I'm loving this case and AIO.
@@demimascot There didn't appear to be any issues and the AIO worked wonderful for a week. I turned the computer on Christmas day and the pump was dead. Looking for a new AIO.
@@demimascot as for your question, how is that possible? I mounted the block on the CPU with the tubes to the back of the case and the pump on the side of the power supply. This resulted in no sharp bends and there was plenty of room between the Radiator and the PSU for the pump. I wish I had taken a picture of it before I removed it all, because of the pump failure . I really don't think the pump failure was due to the way it was mounted.
Great review! Sadly I've got to sidemount the aio in my cougar qbx, sad to see that the decoupled pump is a bit of a problem in that configuration. Love the review, thanks 😁
Wish this AIO fit better on the side! I finally have a graphics card... possibly.... on order. It's a big one at 323 x 140 x 56mm and needing at least two slots I don't think that graphics card would be a good fit for the side-mounted position. Even if it did fit side-mounted, I worry about that pump fitting in alongside the right side of the case next to that giant video card. If only FE cards were easier to come across.
The liquid freezer ii has 6 year warranty, so the be quiet model has a lower warrranty by 3 years. Small nitpick and tbh it sounds like a misspeak. Great video.
Another superb video! I’d be curious to see the thermals on the video card since its only source of air with the glass side panel is warm exhaust air from the Pure Loop radiator. Keep up the great work!
How has bottom mounting a decoupled pump worked out for you? Did the CPU section being at the top dry out with air bubbles? I want to do this but am concerned about the CPU area being at the top despite the pump being lower.
Hello Machines & More, at 6:36 wouldn't the air collect in the arc of your tubes (when it rises to the highest point of the loop)? Likewise, if I would bottom-mount a "conventional" AIO radiator with a pump in the CPU block, but have the tubes like you showed, wouldn't this situation be one and the same (from the air's perspective)?
No bro! I was praying here that you would have done the before and after comparison of the liquid refill haha! Because i dont know if should i do the same to get the 100% of the calue of this AIO... What do you think? Nice video! Thanks
Wish I would’ve found your video before I went with the nzxt kraken, I even emailed be quiet and they couldn’t tell me if this would work bc of the in line pump
Question: Where do plug the 2 fans that come with the unit? Do I plug one of them into to CPU header and the other into a system header, or do I get a splitter and plug them both into the CPU header?
Great.. I just saw this review after i bought the arctice freeze based on your previous review of it. I don't understand, are you saying this unit is colder than the Arctic that has a thicker radiator as well?
Imo, leaving some air in the system for expansion isn't really necessary. I can't see expansion being an issue, these coolers couldn't possibly build up that much pressure. In fact, pressure would make the coolant circulate better with the right pump design. If a guy could set up a liquid cooling design like in vehicles it would be as sufficient as it could get and have zero air in it, they would actually bleed themselves out with the use of a pressure valve and a reservoir.
Am i getting it right, that if I want horizontal GPU installation, then I'm screwed, because the AIO is quite thick not to let horizontal GPU installation? Also - you installed fans so they are working intake, right?
Do you reckon this AIO would fit in the Geeek G1 SE case that you tested? (of course only with 1 fan) I mainly have concerns because of the pump that might interfere with the PSU...Thanks!
If you want great cheap silent fans, the Arctic P12 are amazing. I've got 2 NF-A12-25 and they're a little louder than the P12 and the cooling is very similar. The Pure Wings that come with the Pure Loop are extremely loud. They're terrible. They're silent up to 30%. Above that, jet engine...
Considering swapping the Pure wings for silent wings pwm high Speed, but there expensive. Would the P12 do a similar job for less? Or other "high static" fans make any difference on the Pure Loop?
@@dallev79 Here's the conclusion I got to. If you want some peace of mind, go for the best, which means that you gotta pay extra. Phanteks' latest 120mm fans are pretty much the best you can get right now and they were released as a direct option to Noctua's best A12-25 fans. They're a bit thicker thought and I assume that's the source of their slightly better results. Pure Wings or Silent Wings, they're loud, really loud even at low rpm. If you want some advice, especially seeing that you're interested in what I was interested at the begninning, which is better fans. What I did wrong was try the cheaper options which were very promising and were claimed to perform on par with the best of the best or at least close to that and the experience was quite different. Take the P12 for example. They're good fans but they make a humming noise at ~1000rpm. It's very irritating. If you think you're gonna set the speed to avoid that rpm area, if you have a curve, even for a brief moment, it's still gonna make that noise. I bought 6 of those and gave up on them. The bigger brother, the P14, shares the same doownside because it's using the same motor. Pretty dissapointing to me. I tried some other options too and I came to the conclusion that there's no top performance/silent operation without a price to go with that. So I got x6 A12-25, which cost quite a lot considering it's fans we're talking about here, but doing that, I basically eliminated the only thing that was on my mind, which was 'what fan is it going to get close to Noctua's top performer'. And that turned out to cost me a lot more simply because in the end I still bought the A12-25's, thing I could've done from the beginning but avoided because of the steep price, of course. But from the moment I got them and installed them, set the curve, blah blah blah, they've taken a stone off my heart because they work so well. I've get mounted on 2x Corsair Hydro X Series XR5 360mm and the fan speed is ranging between 22% which is so silent you literally cannot hear a thing with your ear next to them, and 40% when the water temperature get to 37C. So they stay extremely quite and cool my PC giving the best results with the most silent operation. So go ahead and buy these things if you want top performance and dead silent operation (silent at the proper rpm, of course). Even if it means getting them one by one, over a period of time to not feel very hard the hole in the pocket, I still recommend buying them over anything else. Just my 2 cents
@@dragos-lucian So I´ve done some testing. It´s not the fans that are making sound, it´s the pump on this cooler. I have this Pure Loop 280mm and the pump is making this low constans low hum noise. Really anoying. Apparently it´s supposed to run @ full speed according to Be Quiet, but it´s driving med nuts. I´ve seen some people regualting the pump, but I´m uncertain if the pump will fail earlier. Really dissapointed.
You really have some of the best videos. I'm glad I found it while trying to build the most ideal set up for the NR200. Currently trying to get a 3080 of some kind, already have a 5600x. I haven't fully decided on how to cool the CPU or what kind of fan set up. This looked like a good idea, or if I should just go air cooling all around. Any recommendations? how is the mounting when you just use the NR200 and have the GPU horizontal mounted? is there enough space to the front of the case to route the cables to get to the CPU?
Hey there- I think a 5600X is one of those CPUs where it wouldn't benefit much from liquid cooling, other than noise if you are sensitive. If you're trying to overclock it for more single core performance then a big maybe, but otherwise, I just think an air cooler like a Big Shuriken 3 or SE-224-XT will suffice for clocks that PBO will give you. For multi-core stuff I'd say it makes a lot more sense to go up to the next level of CPU rather than try to overclock it (but you don't have that problem since you already have the 5600X). Case-wise- there is one more thing- if you're set on vertical mounting your GPU then you almost have to go with an AIO since a flat air cooler will get choked off.
@@MachinesMore Thank you so much for the recommendations. I'm sorry if I have so many questions, I actually managed to snag an EVGA FTW3 ultra. I'm trying to find the most ideal cooling set up. There is not enough space below the GPU for even slim fans correct? (dimensions of the card and case below). I assume that top two fans are always going to be exhaust and the two side (if they can fit) are going to be intake. I was also looking at both of those coolers you recommended! For the SE-224-XT 1) is there enough space to put two fans on the side panel? 2) is it worth it to put it on the side panel? 3) would you have one or two fans on the cooler itself? For Big Shuriken 3 1) orientation of the fan, it is suppose to go toward the board or away from the board for correct cooling? gfx size L: 330mm (incl. power connector), H: 156mm (incl. power connector), W: 60mm (triple slot) 3080 FTW Length: 11.81 in - 300mm Height: 5.38 in - 136.75mm Width: 2.75 Slots
@MachinesMore Hi, I changed the lequid according to the video. the exchange went well, but after starting PC, there is probably something rattling in the pump, please, what is wrong?
I'm about to buy an AIO, but I haven't decide yet which is the better choice between this Be Quiet Pure Loop and the NZXT Kraken x63 (or z63, that would only be an option because its LED). It's kinda weird that Be Quiet just offers 3 years warranty, but in the other hand they say refill possibility ensure your investment for a long time. Meanwhile, Kraken x63 offers a 6 year warranty, no refill option, but it seems they are more confident in their product. Of course, the prices are the core of this confusion. Pure Loop would be the best cost-benefit option? Or Kraken really wotrths its price?
Are you mounting on the bottom? If so the Pure Loop is by far the better choice. You also don’t benefit from the RGB on the NZXT since it’s covered- RGB accounts for a huge cost premium.
Excellent vid my guy. You look like you take pleasure in this kind of tinkering. If you put arctic p12's on this will this cooper essentially be equal to the Arctic freezer you mentioned? Secondly, are there any issues with water temperature when running a hotter CPU?
I think with the out of box performance from this cooler there’s very little argument to swap fans unless you want to run high fan levels- the only reason for that would be a hot CPU like OC’d Intel K. Even my 10700K tops out at 110W or so on stock turbo at 4.7ghz. At a certain point the fans do less and less because the liquid can only be cooled so much due to the ambient air temps. Your CPU wattage will determine the steady state liquid temp- from what I’ve seen with something around 90-100W (which runs the gamut from Ryzen 7 to 9) you’d be fine having fans max out at around 60%, as you might have seen from testing even 100% fans didn’t do much.
It’s about a 305-310mm of length you can fit with the AIO and a vGPU. If you have a true “3-slot” gpu then it won’t fit because of the 2 open slots available, even if it’s 2 physical slots occupied but 3-slots in thickness, it will have pretty dismal thermals due to choked off airflow too. I’d stick to thinner/smaller cards for VGPU.
I just recently got mine... as I was installing it the solid part of the pump connection popped and I had coolant everywhere... I was able to reconnect it to the pump without and issue and I refilled the AIO with coolant since it comes with it. I’ve been running it since for the past week and haven’t had any leaks, thank God. My temps have been great with approximately 38-45 C consistently from idle to while gaming. My biggest issue right now is that the RGB light hasn’t come on... it’s plugged in and all, there isn’t any a switch underneath the plate is there? I don’t remember seeing one.
Yikes! I don’t recall a switch... if it’s plugged in then my only thought is perhaps an interior cable pulled out when the unit imploded, or the coolant damaged it?
Sir, i have a question regarding this product you reviewed, i recently bought one, i like it, but i have a problem which is when i set this fan to push config the air are pushed back from fan, while the other side i can only feel slight air pass through, is it normal? Or my product has defect? Btw i use it for my ryzen 9 5900x, do you think this aio suit for this proc?
Hi I'm looking to buy a 240mm AIO. Do you recommend this or arctic liquid freezer II more if I'm looking for the quietest and coolest AIO? I'm using Fractal Design Meshify C and Ryzen 5600x. Thanks!
Wanted to buy this but went for the ID-Cooling se 224 xt instead. If possible could you review the 225 version when it's available. Want to know if it makes a difference in thermals on the 5600x & 5800x. Love your vids!
Hey Gavin, thanks for checking in. I have the 225 on the review desk... hoping to have it wrapped up next week. Honestly for a 5600X even if it is a degree or two better, it wouldn’t be a big deal. We’re talking diminishing returns past the 224XT. For a hotter chip, yes, might make sense.
My friend use this bequiet,. I went with MSI Meg Liquid 240r instead haha. I actually dont want the msi because its too expensive. I actually wanted 1. Enermax Liqfusion 240 2. Raijintek Orcus 240 but none of them are available..and the bequiet happen to be out of stock on the store i know so i had no choice haha. The difference between the msi and this bequiet/raijintek/enermax is that the msi Pump is in radiator..so im not sure which one performs better.
From my testing, the MSI is not as good a performer, especially with AM4. Stock, the BQ unit is top tier, right up there with the best in class Liquid Freezer. For the MSI, the coldplate contact isn’t good due to their choice of using an adapter to hook on to the stock cooler mounts, and also the pump in the radiator steals some heat exchange space. There was a ballpark calculation I did and the difference in thermals between it and the X52/X53 could be partially attributed to the pump in rad design. Lastly, the fans were very noisy, a very odd noise came from mine. You may consider a good air cooler if budget is a concern.
i swap out the fans for arctic p12 pst. Im on intel btw, not sure there are issue with contact if intel. but so far my 10700k 5ghz temps seems fine. yeah the stock fan i never used it ahha
Also, as someone who still has a lot to learn about liquid cooling and AIO's, I really appreciate that you took the time to demonstrate how to refill the water!
Hello, I have 280mm version. Is there any diference in temperatures after refiling ? My 5900x gets 83 degrees in stress. In normal using i have 58-72 degrees.
Nope, I don’t see any difference. It just fills to the same level. That’s not an abnormal temp for the 5900X actually, assuming 20-25C room temps. Question is how high of a voltage and clock speed you are getting. If your board is feeding the chip too much voltage you can lower a bit.
I wouldn’t hesitate- it will be enough especially with curve optimizer dialed in- and even more so with a fan upgrade to something like Arctic P12s or Noctua NF-A12x25s.
Another great, informative video, thank you! I want to use RGB fans with this radiator. Are there any you'd specifically recommend for use with this unit bottom-mounted in a NR200p?
Just a quick note- some viewers have asked about it and I measured it. If you're looking at using this particular unit with a vertical GPU in the NR200, the pump and tubing run can results in potential GPU compatibility issues if your GPU is long. On the inside of the case I measured roughly 310mm between the pump and the rear of the case, which means that if you are planning on a long GPU take note. The 3070 and 3080 Founders edition cards all mount without issue.
Waiting for the next video about mounting long gpu with this
Speaking of dimensions: It looks like bottom-mounting the GPU is definitely a no-go with this cooler in its stock form. Would thin fans provide enough clearance for a double-slot GPU; or is vertical GPU orientation the only way to make it work?
since the pump is only attached to one of the tubes, can the pump housing be removed and the pump rotated to allow for easier installation and better GPU clearance?
@@Victor-mn2eu no.
So I’m actually using this in my current nr200 build
I put the fans on the opposite sides of the pump/lines in the suggested push configuration (pressure optimized fans) and it gave me a little more flexibility to side mount it with the lines/pump testing against the PSU shroud
Now I’m not 100% sure everything will fit but will know in a few days
Good to see AIO manufacturers addressing the concerns about bottom mounting, the pump being highest point in the loop, and also coolant loss!
Actually that's not the case at all. This particular design isn't theirs, only difference with original reeven is nickel plated block. Fans also ofc. This wasn't developed from 0, also the pump is located there5because of the shity patent held by greedy asotek. It just happens that its specific points might suit well to some of us. There's also some more aio's which might be used as bottom mounted... alphacool has 2, ekwb old one with leakege issues and pump beside the rad, raijintek has one etc.
Finally a good and thorough review about this aio. I’ve been waiting forever for this! Keep up the good work!
One of my favorite new channels I’ve found. Really love your balance of exhaustive testing while still keeping the videos interesting. Keep it up!
I bought and installed this cooler a few days back, and I must say: the pump is NOT quiet at all. It makes a constant whistling sound which
becomes a lot irritating over time. Before this, I used a CoolerMaster Seidon 240V and its pump didn't make any sound, not like this one. Every
reviewer says that it makes no sound at all, so I wonder is this a unique problem with mine?
Such an impressive feat for the BeQuiet unit to match the Arctic Freezer given how much thinner the radiator is! I have been trying to figure out a way to bottom mount a rad in my Lian Li O11 Mini and this is beginning to look like the clear winner. Thanks for the thorough review.
Congrats on 8K...good to see the channel is growing.
Thanks for being a part of it Andrei!
Juste ordered it few days ago and i m glad to see the performances and the refill part in action ! thanks ! +1 subscriber
Your channel has serious potential. Glad to see more content in the vein of GN stuff. You're doing great work!
Thank you... keeping it up!
The plastic housing on the pump can be removed, so it may give you more flexibility in mounting it. Although not sure how it would affect noise/vibration.
I've found the pump noise to be pretty loud on my pure loop unit. It causes a low frequency hum that appears to resonate out of the case. Kind of annoying. I might consider switching to a galahad 240 since that at the least has a fill port you can top off every year.
Why they didn't give you control of pump speeds on this unit is beyond me
I recently bought this and swapped out the stock fans with Noctua 120mm PWMs, and it worked well. I think the anti-vibration silicone padding may have also helped to reduce any vibrations from reverberating from inside my case (I've installed the Pure Loop in a top mounted position in a Fractal Design Define R5).
Thank you very much for this video, i was thinking about it with the Be Quiet AIO's. in combination with the cooler master NR200P I'm definitely going to buy this AIO
I was looking into getting the 280mm version of this to put in a new smaller case and was wondering about that bottom mounting issue and you answered my question exactly so thank you
I went with air cooling on my NR200P because of concerns over bottom mounted AIOs. This might just be in the shopping list for when I want to use my TG panel and vertically mount my GPU.
Great review! You're the only channel that I found that shows different mounting orientations for the Pure Loop 240 in a case like the NR200P. I was looking to get this for a build in the SAMA IM01 (basically a NR200P clone) but have decided against it, since it has a MATX board in it. Thanks for your time.
Nice review and I'm glad you mentioned the loudness of the pump. I think it is something most of these AIO cooler reviews miss is the level of pump noise. It's an area although I understand isn't common is important to me and I think is the reason many of us just have always gone air cooled. Maybe it's a pipe dream, but some of these AIOs pumps are just too noisy.
if they only used Turnable connectors on the Reservoir, this AIO would be next level.
Though the best part is still the price, that you are allowed to refill it under warranty, and it not having RGB.
Thankfully the NZXT Kraken X63 was able to be front mounted with the tubes coming up from the bottom. Case is Phanteks P400S and I absolutely love the AIO mainly due to how easy it is to install. CPU temps idle run 28 Celsius on average, old air cooler cpu temp was around 32 idle.
I ended up going with a 280mm and thin 240 radiators for my nr200. I used the iceman reservoir to make my custom loop happen. It was a really easy mod to fit it on the back.
Iceman on the outside back of the case?
@@MachinesMore yes. It takes very minor work with a Dremel for the left port. The right port fits where a vertically mounted gpu would go.
@@MachinesMore yes. It requires making a very small cut with a dremel and then taking off the vertical gpu cover. It screws on the existing holes for the rear fan.
i picked this exact AIO up last week and it's terrific. the only part i was concerned about was even cold plate mounting pressure since it only has 2 screws attaching it to the motherboard but that doesn't seem to be a problem at all.
it's quiet, relatively cheap, no RGB (thank god), and actually available unlike the arctic liquid freezer II.
Steve, I was also concerned with the two screw mounting solution too but was very impressed- thermal paste pattern was smooth and flat as ever. They did a good job with it. Glad you are liking it!
Thanks a lot for your exhaustive work in charting cooling solutions in the NR200P! Given all your work so far, what would you say is the best, quiet solution for an NR200P build with an NVIDIA GeForce 3080?
I have an MSI Gaming Trio on the way, and would love to hear your recommendation! I'm leaning towards the BeQuiet AIO you've shown here, but wondering what you would recommend in terms of how to mount the GFX card. Vertical/horizontal? Would deshrouding be an option somehow?
As soon as I saw the Pure Loop, I ummed and erred about buying it for a bottom mount in my NR200P wondering if it could overcome the issues that Asetek coolers apparently have in that configuration. In the end I went with the U12-A as a reliable air-cooled solution since there are plenty of reviews and real-world examples of it.
This video doesn't make me regret my decision, but I'm glad to see a detailed look at it, and that the cooler has been noticed as a potential solution for a bottom-mounted AIO (or some other 'non-optimal' configuration) not only for this case but others as well.
The U12A is very close to a good 240mm AIO. (both in cost and performance).
@@MachinesMore with the bottom mount configuration you show here with the 3070FE, would there also be enough width to fit a 3080? It looks a lot like the pump will interfere with card length and perhaps depth clearance
The inline pump is making some noise constantly, it's not that quiet
How is it holding up 3 years later? Could be the perfect opportunity to do the one test you could not at the time of the video namely longevity.
The AIO with pump build in the radiator would be a better buy for the itx build.
For fit, yes. But in terms of performance, it’s debatable. The MSI Coreliquid was partially impacted by the loss of rad space because of the in rad pump.
@@MachinesMore Yeah, good point.
Thanks for this video! - I am swapping out my cooler master AIO for this one. running the rad on the side panel is just a total cluster when it comes to arranging the cables in the rest of NR200P. Going to try the Vertical GPU mount as well and see how it goes.
You don't know how grateful I am for finding your channel. Legit, the most descriptive, detailed builds on the NR200 ft. RTX 3080. Just one question, is it possible to run a vertical GPU RTX 3080 with a 240mm AIO inside the NR200 (with a considerate temp)?
Hey Jason, you’re very kind and I am glad you enjoy the content. I assume you’re hoping to use the tempered glass panel. In general I’d say yes but two things will help- 1) thinner gpu so it’s not choked off. The closer to 2 slots the better. 2) strong airflow either top down or bottom up, make sure you balance the airflow from the bottom to top. Here is where some quality rad and case fans help, so that you can just lock them to 1200RPM and lock case fans to a little less. What you’re trying to avoid is air going out or in the back panel since if your fan setup is negative pressure, some GPU exhaust could be sucked back in. If it’s positive, then that cool air is bypassing the GPU fans somewhat and just exiting out the back. There will a video coming later in the week with some thermal benchmarks involving a vGPU, that may help your planning.
@@MachinesMore Once again, I cannot thank you enough for such details and yes, I forgot to mention about the tempered glass panel. I am looking forward for your upcoming videos. Great content as always, and hopefully you can earn more subs in the future. Wishing you the best brother! 👍
Very good video. Thanks for showing all the intricacies of this piece.
Best review I have ever seen of an AIO! Great work!
What program did you use to change the fan speed
Building my nr200 with this tomorrow. Wish me luck
Everywhere is out of stock :(
You should do a double dual radiator test! A hybrid gpu (say like evga xc3 hybrid 3080) on the side mount and the pure loops on the bottom of the case. Interested to see if that would fit
I would really like to know the answer to this as well , since I just ordered the xc3 hybrid 3090 and the pure loop 240. Hoping I can put the pure loop on the bottom and the GPU 240mm rad on the side, or possibly top with modding. Would be great to hear what the channel thinks!
This is exactly the video I was looking for! Unfortunately I found it after I had already ordered my NR200 and Be Quiet Pure Loop 280mm AIO. They come tomorrow so I might have to return the AIO and get the smaller one, or watch your NR200 AIO video again to see which one you recommend most.
Follow up: I am happy to say I had NO issues side mounting the Pure Loop 280mm in the NR200. So far I'm loving this case and AIO.
'NO issues side mounting' - so how is that possible? The pump in the video was clearly in the way.
@@demimascot There didn't appear to be any issues and the AIO worked wonderful for a week. I turned the computer on Christmas day and the pump was dead. Looking for a new AIO.
@@demimascot as for your question, how is that possible? I mounted the block on the CPU with the tubes to the back of the case and the pump on the side of the power supply. This resulted in no sharp bends and there was plenty of room between the Radiator and the PSU for the pump. I wish I had taken a picture of it before I removed it all, because of the pump failure . I really don't think the pump failure was due to the way it was mounted.
Great review! Sadly I've got to sidemount the aio in my cougar qbx, sad to see that the decoupled pump is a bit of a problem in that configuration. Love the review, thanks 😁
Wish this AIO fit better on the side! I finally have a graphics card... possibly.... on order. It's a big one at 323 x 140 x 56mm and needing at least two slots I don't think that graphics card would be a good fit for the side-mounted position. Even if it did fit side-mounted, I worry about that pump fitting in alongside the right side of the case next to that giant video card. If only FE cards were easier to come across.
The liquid freezer ii has 6 year warranty, so the be quiet model has a lower warrranty by 3 years. Small nitpick and tbh it sounds like a misspeak. Great video.
Arctic started with 2 years and changed it later.
@@pietrmuffei8874 AUGHHHHHHH yeah I heard from Gamers Nexus in the review, my bad 💀💀💀
Another superb video! I’d be curious to see the thermals on the video card since its only source of air with the glass side panel is warm exhaust air from the Pure Loop radiator. Keep up the great work!
Hi could u make a video. Diy air-condition using the be quiet 240mm ? Pretty please thanks
What other AIO could you bottom mount for the nr200p??
How has bottom mounting a decoupled pump worked out for you?
Did the CPU section being at the top dry out with air bubbles? I want to do this but am concerned about the CPU area being at the top despite the pump being lower.
Coming back to this 3 years later, im about to pull the trigger on this AIO - hows the longevity?
Hello Machines & More, at 6:36 wouldn't the air collect in the arc of your tubes (when it rises to the highest point of the loop)? Likewise, if I would bottom-mount a "conventional" AIO radiator with a pump in the CPU block, but have the tubes like you showed, wouldn't this situation be one and the same (from the air's perspective)?
No bro! I was praying here that you would have done the before and after comparison of the liquid refill haha! Because i dont know if should i do the same to get the 100% of the calue of this AIO... What do you think? Nice video! Thanks
Wish I would’ve found your video before I went with the nzxt kraken, I even emailed be quiet and they couldn’t tell me if this would work bc of the in line pump
Question: Where do plug the 2 fans that come with the unit? Do I plug one of them into to CPU header and the other into a system header, or do I get a splitter and plug them both into the CPU header?
Great.. I just saw this review after i bought the arctice freeze based on your previous review of it. I don't understand, are you saying this unit is colder than the Arctic that has a thicker radiator as well?
so lets say i just bought this. Should i attempt to add more fluid or the unit should be just fine.
I'm surprised no one uses a Pureloop 360mm in the bottom of a Fractal Torrent.
the fans have to push air into the radiator, or is it now the other way around.
11:57 - That hum is actually starting to drive me nuts. I have a be quiet case but the sound just leaks through. At least the pitch is constant.
i’ve had this a little over a year and i just thought about it, idk if the coolant was extra or i needed to fill it 💀
Having a vertical GPU with the glass panel - doesn't that cause havoc for the GPU thermals as there's no space for airflow there?
Imo, leaving some air in the system for expansion isn't really necessary. I can't see expansion being an issue, these coolers couldn't possibly build up that much pressure. In fact, pressure would make the coolant circulate better with the right pump design. If a guy could set up a liquid cooling design like in vehicles it would be as sufficient as it could get and have zero air in it, they would actually bleed themselves out with the use of a pressure valve and a reservoir.
Three years already. I'm still skeptical about bottom mounting the radiator. It seems like something to do only if you are desperate.
Oof, I was looking to side-mount the 280mm version, but looks like that's impossible with this line-up.
Am i getting it right, that if I want horizontal GPU installation, then I'm screwed, because the AIO is quite thick not to let horizontal GPU installation? Also - you installed fans so they are working intake, right?
Do you reckon this AIO would fit in the Geeek G1 SE case that you tested? (of course only with 1 fan) I mainly have concerns because of the pump that might interfere with the PSU...Thanks!
Dang what a good channel
Guess this channel is growing great
Have the the rad screws and the fan screws the same thickness?? Being the only difference the lenght of the screws?
is this still good in 2023 for 5600x? Also can you review Thermalright Frozen Notte, that has pump on tubes too.
Nice review! Wish there was a pump noise comparisons tho or atleast a comparison comment on it :/
this is what ive been looking for i have corsair 600c inverted case
Is it worth replacing the stock fan with another like noctua or stick with the one it comes with?
Can you please review ID-Cooling's AIOs and compare to this one and other popular AIOs?
I have problem myrdiator is placed on front panel and pump is making buzzing sound
If you want great cheap silent fans, the Arctic P12 are amazing. I've got 2 NF-A12-25 and they're a little louder than the P12 and the cooling is very similar. The Pure Wings that come with the Pure Loop are extremely loud. They're terrible. They're silent up to 30%. Above that, jet engine...
Considering swapping the Pure wings for silent wings pwm high Speed, but there expensive. Would the P12 do a similar job for less? Or other "high static" fans make any difference on the Pure Loop?
@@dallev79 Here's the conclusion I got to. If you want some peace of mind, go for the best, which means that you gotta pay extra.
Phanteks' latest 120mm fans are pretty much the best you can get right now and they were released as a direct option to Noctua's best A12-25 fans. They're a bit thicker thought and I assume that's the source of their slightly better results.
Pure Wings or Silent Wings, they're loud, really loud even at low rpm.
If you want some advice, especially seeing that you're interested in what I was interested at the begninning, which is better fans. What I did wrong was try the cheaper options which were very promising and were claimed to perform on par with the best of the best or at least close to that and the experience was quite different. Take the P12 for example. They're good fans but they make a humming noise at ~1000rpm. It's very irritating. If you think you're gonna set the speed to avoid that rpm area, if you have a curve, even for a brief moment, it's still gonna make that noise. I bought 6 of those and gave up on them. The bigger brother, the P14, shares the same doownside because it's using the same motor. Pretty dissapointing to me. I tried some other options too and I came to the conclusion that there's no top performance/silent operation without a price to go with that. So I got x6 A12-25, which cost quite a lot considering it's fans we're talking about here, but doing that, I basically eliminated the only thing that was on my mind, which was 'what fan is it going to get close to Noctua's top performer'. And that turned out to cost me a lot more simply because in the end I still bought the A12-25's, thing I could've done from the beginning but avoided because of the steep price, of course.
But from the moment I got them and installed them, set the curve, blah blah blah, they've taken a stone off my heart because they work so well. I've get mounted on 2x Corsair Hydro X Series XR5 360mm and the fan speed is ranging between 22% which is so silent you literally cannot hear a thing with your ear next to them, and 40% when the water temperature get to 37C. So they stay extremely quite and cool my PC giving the best results with the most silent operation.
So go ahead and buy these things if you want top performance and dead silent operation (silent at the proper rpm, of course). Even if it means getting them one by one, over a period of time to not feel very hard the hole in the pocket, I still recommend buying them over anything else. Just my 2 cents
@@dragos-lucian So I´ve done some testing. It´s not the fans that are making sound, it´s the pump on this cooler. I have this Pure Loop 280mm and the pump is making this low constans low hum noise. Really anoying. Apparently it´s supposed to run @ full speed according to Be Quiet, but it´s driving med nuts. I´ve seen some people regualting the pump, but I´m uncertain if the pump will fail earlier. Really dissapointed.
How does Silent Loop 2 240 compares to Arctic Freezer II 240 in NR200 case ?
You really have some of the best videos. I'm glad I found it while trying to build the most ideal set up for the NR200. Currently trying to get a 3080 of some kind, already have a 5600x. I haven't fully decided on how to cool the CPU or what kind of fan set up. This looked like a good idea, or if I should just go air cooling all around. Any recommendations?
how is the mounting when you just use the NR200 and have the GPU horizontal mounted? is there enough space to the front of the case to route the cables to get to the CPU?
Hey there- I think a 5600X is one of those CPUs where it wouldn't benefit much from liquid cooling, other than noise if you are sensitive. If you're trying to overclock it for more single core performance then a big maybe, but otherwise, I just think an air cooler like a Big Shuriken 3 or SE-224-XT will suffice for clocks that PBO will give you. For multi-core stuff I'd say it makes a lot more sense to go up to the next level of CPU rather than try to overclock it (but you don't have that problem since you already have the 5600X).
Case-wise- there is one more thing- if you're set on vertical mounting your GPU then you almost have to go with an AIO since a flat air cooler will get choked off.
@@MachinesMore Thank you so much for the recommendations. I'm sorry if I have so many questions, I actually managed to snag an EVGA FTW3 ultra. I'm trying to find the most ideal cooling set up. There is not enough space below the GPU for even slim fans correct? (dimensions of the card and case below). I assume that top two fans are always going to be exhaust and the two side (if they can fit) are going to be intake.
I was also looking at both of those coolers you recommended!
For the SE-224-XT
1) is there enough space to put two fans on the side panel?
2) is it worth it to put it on the side panel?
3) would you have one or two fans on the cooler itself?
For Big Shuriken 3
1) orientation of the fan, it is suppose to go toward the board or away from the board for correct cooling?
gfx size
L: 330mm (incl. power connector),
H: 156mm (incl. power connector),
W: 60mm (triple slot)
3080 FTW
Length: 11.81 in - 300mm
Height: 5.38 in - 136.75mm
Width: 2.75 Slots
I like how you can refill it
@MachinesMore Hi, I changed the lequid according to the video. the exchange went well, but after starting PC, there is probably something rattling in the pump, please, what is wrong?
Check the fill level! It might have not filled all the way and running the pump worked out some air bubbles.
@@MachinesMore It happens to me that the pump vibrates.
I have an In Win 303c case, do you recommend to put the radiator in the upper position?
only your review show us how to refill coolant...so ty
Pleaae do dual AIO top and buttom on NR200P MAX
I'm about to buy an AIO, but I haven't decide yet which is the better choice between this Be Quiet Pure Loop and the NZXT Kraken x63 (or z63, that would only be an option because its LED).
It's kinda weird that Be Quiet just offers 3 years warranty, but in the other hand they say refill possibility ensure your investment for a long time. Meanwhile, Kraken x63 offers a 6 year warranty, no refill option, but it seems they are more confident in their product.
Of course, the prices are the core of this confusion. Pure Loop would be the best cost-benefit option? Or Kraken really wotrths its price?
Are you mounting on the bottom? If so the Pure Loop is by far the better choice. You also don’t benefit from the RGB on the NZXT since it’s covered- RGB accounts for a huge cost premium.
Excellent vid my guy. You look like you take pleasure in this kind of tinkering.
If you put arctic p12's on this will this cooper essentially be equal to the Arctic freezer you mentioned?
Secondly, are there any issues with water temperature when running a hotter CPU?
I think with the out of box performance from this cooler there’s very little argument to swap fans unless you want to run high fan levels- the only reason for that would be a hot CPU like OC’d Intel K. Even my 10700K tops out at 110W or so on stock turbo at 4.7ghz. At a certain point the fans do less and less because the liquid can only be cooled so much due to the ambient air temps. Your CPU wattage will determine the steady state liquid temp- from what I’ve seen with something around 90-100W (which runs the gamut from Ryzen 7 to 9) you’d be fine having fans max out at around 60%, as you might have seen from testing even 100% fans didn’t do much.
How about side mountingthe 3 slot gpu is there any prblem with the lenght? With the tube and pump?
It’s about a 305-310mm of length you can fit with the AIO and a vGPU. If you have a true “3-slot” gpu then it won’t fit because of the 2 open slots available, even if it’s 2 physical slots occupied but 3-slots in thickness, it will have pretty dismal thermals due to choked off airflow too. I’d stick to thinner/smaller cards for VGPU.
I just recently got mine... as I was installing it the solid part of the pump connection popped and I had coolant everywhere... I was able to reconnect it to the pump without and issue and I refilled the AIO with coolant since it comes with it. I’ve been running it since for the past week and haven’t had any leaks, thank God. My temps have been great with approximately 38-45 C consistently from idle to while gaming. My biggest issue right now is that the RGB light hasn’t come on... it’s plugged in and all, there isn’t any a switch underneath the plate is there? I don’t remember seeing one.
Yikes! I don’t recall a switch... if it’s plugged in then my only thought is perhaps an interior cable pulled out when the unit imploded, or the coolant damaged it?
Sir, i have a question regarding this product you reviewed, i recently bought one, i like it, but i have a problem which is when i set this fan to push config the air are pushed back from fan, while the other side i can only feel slight air pass through, is it normal? Or my product has defect? Btw i use it for my ryzen 9 5900x, do you think this aio suit for this proc?
If I wanted to side mount, would the 120mm version work better with the tubing? I’m trying to use an Asus ROG Strix 3070 with the NR200P case.
Hi I'm looking to buy a 240mm AIO. Do you recommend this or arctic liquid freezer II more if I'm looking for the quietest and coolest AIO?
I'm using Fractal Design Meshify C and Ryzen 5600x. Thanks!
Would it be possible to fit slim fans and have enough clearance for a 3080 FE in the horizontal position?
WONDERFUL VIDEO!! ^_^!! CANNOT WAIT FOR YOUR NEXT CONTENT!! ^_^!!
Are those com in with coolant already inside?
Wanted to buy this but went for the ID-Cooling se 224 xt instead. If possible could you review the 225 version when it's available. Want to know if it makes a difference in thermals on the 5600x & 5800x. Love your vids!
Hey Gavin, thanks for checking in. I have the 225 on the review desk... hoping to have it wrapped up next week. Honestly for a 5600X even if it is a degree or two better, it wouldn’t be a big deal. We’re talking diminishing returns past the 224XT. For a hotter chip, yes, might make sense.
But how can I control the pump fan if it’s connected to sata?
Great video, thanks for sharing this.
the fans are not in the opposite direction?
i heard there is a fill port in the led area.
My friend use this bequiet,. I went with MSI Meg Liquid 240r instead haha. I actually dont want the msi because its too expensive. I actually wanted
1. Enermax Liqfusion 240
2. Raijintek Orcus 240
but none of them are available..and the bequiet happen to be out of stock on the store i know so i had no choice haha. The difference between the msi and this bequiet/raijintek/enermax is that the msi Pump is in radiator..so im not sure which one performs better.
From my testing, the MSI is not as good a performer, especially with AM4. Stock, the BQ unit is top tier, right up there with the best in class Liquid Freezer. For the MSI, the coldplate contact isn’t good due to their choice of using an adapter to hook on to the stock cooler mounts, and also the pump in the radiator steals some heat exchange space. There was a ballpark calculation I did and the difference in thermals between it and the X52/X53 could be partially attributed to the pump in rad design. Lastly, the fans were very noisy, a very odd noise came from mine. You may consider a good air cooler if budget is a concern.
i swap out the fans for arctic p12 pst. Im on intel btw, not sure there are issue with contact if intel. but so far my 10700k 5ghz temps seems fine. yeah the stock fan i never used it ahha
Here for you man! Thanks for this video. I wonder how it would fit in an Ncase M1 side panel?
It won't be easy with the in-line pump block. Not a huge reason to go with this one in the M1 though. An Asetek unit usually works quite well.
Machines & More thank you very much! 🙏🙌
What would you say roughly the maximum GPU clearance would be with this liquid cooler installed? Great video, btw! I subbed. :)
Also, as someone who still has a lot to learn about liquid cooling and AIO's, I really appreciate that you took the time to demonstrate how to refill the water!
Would it be worth replacing the Pure Wings 2 fans with Arctic P12 fans, since those made such a difference on the Liquid Freezer II?
JD, In my opinion, no. You'll like the next vid.:)
Hello, I have 280mm version. Is there any diference in temperatures after refiling ? My 5900x gets 83 degrees in stress. In normal using i have 58-72 degrees.
Nope, I don’t see any difference. It just fills to the same level. That’s not an abnormal temp for the 5900X actually, assuming 20-25C room temps. Question is how high of a voltage and clock speed you are getting. If your board is feeding the chip too much voltage you can lower a bit.
Will a bottom mount nzxt cracken M22 work with a bottom mount since the pump is in the block?
Very informative. You just spared me from a mistake of buying
mistake of buying a Kraken ? yea me too
Very good review man!
I really wanna do this with the tg panel but I’m afraid it won’t be adequate for my 5900x
I wouldn’t hesitate- it will be enough especially with curve optimizer dialed in- and even more so with a fan upgrade to something like Arctic P12s or Noctua NF-A12x25s.
This video really helped me a lot. Thx 😀
Another great, informative video, thank you!
I want to use RGB fans with this radiator. Are there any you'd specifically recommend for use with this unit bottom-mounted in a NR200p?
I am currently testing the EK Vardar X3M (RGB). Hope to have a comparison up soon!
i want to put some cooler master on it the MF120