The only difference between the Republican & Democrat is how fast the knee hits the floor when a donor walks in the room. Humans will be extinct by 2026, if anyone were paying attention to the arctic ice record.
Average citizens are nothing but a revenue source to our incredibly corrupt government. Damn few of our elected officials honor their oath of office or respect the constitution. I consider America to be circling the drain because of the corruption.
The rail CEOs who enforce severe understaffing that led to this should be criminally charged and their pay packages should cover all remediation and health costs.
You know the train company successfully lobbied the Trump admin in 2017 to remove a regulation that the Obama admin had put in place, that would have required this train to use an ECP braking system. An ex official from the train safety board (name escapes me) - said it would likely have prevented the accident. When you hear Republicans get giddy about the GOP removing regulations - this is the result.
I seem to remember all the mainstream media ringing the doomsday bell about what a disaster a rail strike would cause. They hammered and hammered until Biden forced them to accept the contract. They need to be held accountable for this disaster also 😡
They were all wearing the same equipment they would have had they known. Open windows, fans, and some housekeeping goes a long way. The information flow doesn't evolve at the speed of incidents.
The fact this was kept from major news for over a week is unreal. That they decided to burn these chemicals off is astoundingly nonchalant. Typical US lack of concern about human life
It’s not so much a lack of care for human life, though in practice that’s what it seems. It is media being beholden to corporations that run America. Basically this whole situation makes Biden and the RR look bad, especially after the anti union stuff Biden pulled on the RR union, which was worried about this. So the media is covering up this, not making it a big deal to help the RR cover it’s butt and keep anti union sentiments high.
It wasn't kept from major news outlets; the rich pricks up top just wanted to wait until after the Super Bowl to break the news so folks wouldn't pay attention.
This is one of those things that no matter how bad it is, we will NEVER know the full truth. The corporation and government have had a week to clean up and get their stories straight.
And they lobbied to overturn a regulation with the Trump admin in 2017 that would have required ECP braking system that likely would have prevented the accident (or at least the impact of the accident).
@@zoeherriot I remember Trump spouting off about how we had the cleanest air and water as if that was a reason for his heavy deregulation and not a reason why regulations work.
I used to be a member at my local fire department, when you realize the amount of trucks and trains transporting hazardous materials it becomes alarming how much of it is just taken through large populations and no one notices.
Straight to the points, greed never get enough so as capitalism, still fresh in mind in 2008 too big to b fall, they live as king play leverage with insane profit put all in danger and thing get worse everyone pay the bills and no one get held account for it
Is "they" the people buying all these non-sustainable goods and filling their tanks with gasoline and operating in a mindless state of non-relation of their own impact that causes a need for these chemicals to be shipped in the first place?
@@user-account-not-found Posted from what's most likely an iphone or apple computer. If you truly believe what you preach you wouldn't be on the internet.
Ever heard of times beach? Visited it more than once. Most people are watching the super bowl, flying lets go brandon flags, and planning their next acquisition of material wealth. That's the system we live in Holly.
If anyone else is really paying attention to what is going on it's not just in this area, it's hitting the main water supply and rivers lakes streams heading to everyone
WTF! Why would it take so long to figure out what's being transported on that train? Isn't a bill of lading required for everything being shipped? I would think that it would literally take mere minutes to determine what was being shipped on that train.
I was watching the news feed when they blew up that train car and the ticker tape on the news feed literally said that the chemicals were not toxic to humans even though there was a heavy chlorine odor in the air. Its like that movie Erin Brockavich
There is evidence of increase in vinyl chloride gas in Cincinnati. That's bad enough news. However, it may not be due to the criminal mishandling of the materials involved in this disaster. Cincinnati is a major rail hub and has long been. Vast trains come through the railyards in Queensgate near Union Terminal and travel along US50 turning north near the Indiana border. There are countless cars of freight of what we will never know. It's not as though railroads, that are essential to the infrastructure of commerce, are forthcoming with such information.
Workers could bring our corrupt government and greedy companies to their knees with a united strike. Not just unions, but all workers. The hard part of this is so many folks no leeway in their budgets. Our corrupt politicians have seen to this.
I’m glad y’all are covering this because I’m around Cincinnati (@250 miles away) and there’s almost ZERO coverage here. I’ve talked to 3 people in the past week that hadn’t even heard about the derailment and possible contamination of the Ohio River. The river is within walking distance of all our homes.
The railroad should probably be offering to relocate people in the immediate area outright. Buy their homes and pay to move them wherever they want to go. It will probably be cheaper and safer to just do that than move people back in and risk exposure. I guess they have plenty of incentive to shrug it off and wait for people to die in 20 years of cancer, when it will be difficult to prove a link.
I'm an employee in charge of hazmat cleanup for a large shipping firm in the US. I can tell you that this is a stark example of a problem that persists in many places handling hazardous materials and waste. I see it in packaging, and in the way my immediate management treats my department. This has also been made extremely worse since covid as many facility audits by the authorities that regulate the transportation of hazmats(there are 7) halted or slowed their frequency. In my case, I work in a facility where a worst-case scenario would be isolated to the 100 or so employees working and would not have an effect on the surrounding homes, etc. Regardless, my department is incredibly short staffed and seen as a drain on production. We are expected to cut corners when dealing with spills if they have stopped or slowed production. Employees and management in the building are not held accountable to the proper spill repording protocols. These incidents are often manipulated by the rank and file before I'm able to get to the spills. I will state that the company has put a lot of money in to train me and requires every employee to do annual hazmat training. The fact remains that accountability is missing at the local management level. Last year, we were actually told last February that we would not get audited in all of 2022. You can imagine that gave my management the knowledge that they could ignore my department and things got rapidly worse. Now, they are scrambling to put the pieces back together as an audit is eminent. You can be sure that I will accurately describe to the auditors how my department is handled.
These kinds of trains go right through Philadelphia, right next to a major river and a train station. Infrastructure in Philly is rough. It’s terrifying.
The so called United States of America has no right to call itself the greatest country in the world it's not when it's people have no acces to proper and affordable healthcare. America is not the land of the free far from it so glad and blessed to live here in Europe where it's so much better period. Don't get me wrong i truly feel sorry for all those people who are suffering right now they did not deserved this my heart goes out for them.
I live in Sandusky. Ohio, right on the shores of Lake Erie, about 2 hours northwest of East Palestine. We had our train derailment with Norfolk Southern in October and the city is still waiting for repairs. The chemical leaked was paraffin wax and the damage caused was to the sewer infrastructure, the underpass retaining walls, the pavement below, and much more. Thank God the chemical spill wasn't as bad as in East Palestine but we are still without the use of the street.
They're too busy sending money to Ukraine and Turkey and everywhere but here. Turkey needs help, yes, but the money never gets where it should. And do we ever get any thanks or appreciation? Hell, no!
@RMPsumma the fault in the government is the rollback of regulations and the beholding to lobbyists. This all could have been prevented. Now it is time for the railroads to pay up but they don't want to spend their profits on that. They would rather use that money for stock buybacks. When its profits its privatized, and when you have a situation like this, now they want to socialize their damages. Not to mention the workers complained of being understaffed and safety issues, but to no avail. We must hold them to account.
@@user-ln7jw2qn6h The fault right now is the loathsome Biden and his entire loathsome administration. Democrats LOVE regulations, regulations which they never follow themselves. I am damned angry over what they've done, and continue to do to this once great nation. They've all but destroyed it.
@RMPsumma yes, the Biden administration could make changes or regulations, right now. They wouldn't even need congressional approval because it would be under safety. When certain trains carry certain hazardous chemicals they were made to have a special breaking system and not rely on the civil war era brakes we use today. Even the level of chemical hazardous material was downgraded to appease lobbyists. This failure goes back to at least 3 administrations.
The Board of Directors of Norfolk Southern authorized a $10 billion stock buyback last March, after paying out $7 billion in buybacks between 2019 and 2021. For contrast, East Palestine, Ohio spends less than $20 million each year on civic services, some 350 times less than those railroad stock buybacks.
Emma, I remember that work you did on the Delaware story. It's fucked up here - and it's gonna get worse given how many people are moving here from NJ and NY.
That last advice is extraordinary. It's "good" advice but dystopian at the same time. It shows you how hopeless we became, how powerless our society is against these abusers.
Norfolk southern is having a really bad few months. In December, a new-hire trainee was riding in the cab when a metal beam protruding from a passing train shot though the cab, killing the student.
What happened in Ohio is awful these companies need to be held accountable also this country 's government officials are so into corporate money is one of the reasons why it happened I wish we had more politicians in office who are railroad workers
@@tenkenroo Pay a small fine, maybe have a rep cry in front of a congressional committee and then drop the cost of the clean up/damages on the taxpayer.
Hey Sam. Thanks for covering this story. I work for a Class 1 railroad in Canada and the big difference between the way things are run is pre departure inspections. Every time a train leaves it's originating terminal it must be inspected by a Carman. They get an allotted time per car to inspect brakes, wheels, airlines etc. American Carmen have much less time to inspect and are often pushed by their company to sign off on cars that should be brought to the car shop for repairs. This obviously increases the risk that cars in need of repair are sent down the line where inevitably accidents will happen.
It's used to put out oil wells on fire. A controlled explosion is a carefully measured blast. It's used when a building is scheduled for demolition. Is it the best way to deal with chemicals? Depends. Gases tend to be easily disrupted with explosions and fire will take care of most noxious fumes.
Controlled burns are indeed a viable strategy if used correctly and if they cause less harm than the explosion would. The people who made that decision need to show that the explosion would have been worse. Furthermore, they need to ensure people are evacuated and testing is done prior to them coming back. None of that seems like it was done correctly.
I've worked with BNSF and UP for a number of years, specifically auditing demurage and transit paperwork. It takes LITERALLY 4 MINS to pull up the ENTIRE manifest history of a single car. Every maintenance service, every cargo shipment. 4 MINUTES. 7 days to release is clearly bullshit
Exactly, Sam! Getting a health checkup might be a no-brainer in civilized countries. However, we don't have affordable healthcare or guaranteed sick days in this failed state of a nation. How many people will suffer in the long run because getting a checkup is just not possible for them?
Jessica please migrate to Europe you are more than welcome over here and people over here have affordable healthcare and in some European country's it's totaly free. America is not the greatest country in the world there are better country's.
@Justin Williams What a dumb statement GUNS really seriously WOW? Btw we have bacon here as well you can keep you're guns over there they are worthless anyway just look at all of the mass and school shootings that are happening over there not something to be proud of a great and affordable healthcare system is so much better period. Europe is so much better than the so called land of the free it's not.
@Justin Williams USA #1 sure whatever keep believing in that lie and fantasy if that makes you happy. America the so called land of the free doesn't even come close on being number one you are definitely being brainwashed i feel sorry for you. Once again there are better country's America is not the greatest country in the world and it's definitely not the land of the free far from it. Other than that i hope that you have a great day😊
The Ohio Department of Natural Resources is already reporting dead fish (estimates as high as 3,500 dead fish so far) and locals are reporting that their pets and livestock are suddenly getting sick and/or dying. Norfolk Southern and the gov. just served these poor people a massive shit sandwich.
honestly, rail workers should just go on strike anyways, bring the economy to its knees. I don't really want that either, cause it will suck but sometimes bad things need to happen to actually make any real progress.
I live in Lorain County which is about 20 minutes south of Cleveland. I live in a village and our tiny downtown has an intersection of two different tracks. Trains are going by all day and night. This really makes me worry.
I worked for the RR for 15 years. My health was so bad I had to leave. Now I've been trying to get a disability, (which I paid for, with my own money. ) thru there RR disability board and I'm still fighting them to get it. It's been two years now.. The RR retirement program has more money than SS. many people don't know that.. it's because they drive you into such poor health, when you retire, you simply die 6 months later, and the RR retirement board just puts the money back into the fund and it grows and grows.. You don't understand what is going on here.. you don't understand the conditions.. I spend an average of two days a week in the VA hospital getting help.. the RR simply doesn't care about anything or anyone..
A River is a moving body of water. It’s not just the people and the wildlife in the area that will be affected. It will affect people for miles down stream.
I hope we can do an aid package and get guarantees against prosecution and law suits so their stock price is not affected. That would be the true disaster.
Not gonna lie, I'm ashamed of the lackluster air sampling, spill sampling and water sampling done by the US EPA. This is my line of work and it had me shaking my head how bad they handled this.
It's absolutely devastating to see how we treat our communities and environment. We will have nowhere left to go if we continue to let these corporations and capitalism dictate the fate of our land. I want to be able to enjoy the natural beauty of the world, but it keeps being taken away from us. We've already lost so much and I can't stand it anymore.
You can't support less regulation and then stand with righteous indignation. This is exactly what you wanted, whether or not you can admit it to yourself. This is where less regulation leads.
We complainerd about Chernobyl and Fukushima and how poorly their governments dealt with their toxins. Now it's our turn and obvious we arent doing any better
DNR here in Michigan, did years ago, would issue a weekly advisory about whether it was safe to eat the fish caught in the Great Lakes. Changed day to day. Safe to eat today, not today. Crazy.
The other thing with "Get out of there if you can", in the capitalist society we're in, is anyone going to buy a home here for the foreseeable future? The most valuable asset many of these people own is now worthless.
Iam afraid to drink any water from the tap at home. The best I can do is filter our drinking water with reverse osmosis filters.we still have to bathe in the tap water. We don't live in a risky area , I couldn't imagine what these people are going thru
Why are you living in fear? You know you can test your water to see if you actually should be worried or not? I recommend you get your water tested so that you're not bathing and freaking out about it. I do understand the temptation to be overly cautious, but you're bordering on paranoia.
@justastripe living just south of flint Michigan, they let those people drink lead for a years and didn't say a word and when they were caught nothing happened, every freshwater lake and stream is polluted with pfas fire retardant you really shouldn't eat the fish sorry if iam a little paranoid
Good point, how can they thoroughly test if they don’t know what leaked, seriously, how good do you think their tests are OR is Norfolk testing to see what’s “detectable” and what they might be held accountable for.. THEY KNOW EXACTLY WHATS ON THOSE TRAINS DOWN TO THE PENNY AS SOON AS THEY LEAVE THE STATION..ITS ALL ABOUT PROFIT. Any delay of information was only to cover Norfolks liability…..
What company owned the actual cargo of hazardous, lethal materials on this train? Isn't the railway required to notify every town the train passes through about their cargo of hazardous materials? I'd check into the rail and the cargo corporation's majority holders/investors and their countries of origin.
I'm reminded of that movie Dark Water with Mark Ruffalo about corporation effectively poisoning a town in a way similar to how Emma described. Scary stuff.
Maybe I'm just making myself feel better by saying that because I live in Columbus and winds typically move from the southwest to the north and east or from the West to the east that I'm safe.
How the heck were people supposed to know to stay inside etc, if they kept it quiet? That's nuts. It's another 'accident' just like the gas pipe 'accident'. What a world. SMH 🙏
This community basically was just destroyed and their livelihoods ruined and they’re gonna have to evacuate thousands of people, and you chose this moment in time to mask-shame them? Lmao unbelievable
That's because you libs are still wearing cloth masks like it does anything to stop a virus. If you are anywhere near this crash don't drink the water and GTFO. The chemicals might even make a gas mask deteriorate quickly, do not fuck around.
As with the c virus, a paper mask won't protect you from tiny molecules of chemical poison in the air. It might be helpful for smoke from the fire a little bit, but not for poisonous gases or viruses.
Gotta have the freight company pay for EVERYTHING and the president should have authority to REPLACE whoever is RUNNING that shit show with someone HE THINKS WILL DO BETTER.
Some of the cars contained Vinyl Chloride - Chronic exposure can cause permanent liver injury and liver cancer, neurologic or behavioral symptoms, and changes to the skin and bones of the hand.
That stuff is hell on earth, with such an accident need to be hundreds of miles other side than the wind at the time. Get out of the fallout zone. Get a new lif, anything else not worth it and never buy anything containing toxic chemicals in future.
As the Hazmat expert stated, NS's main concern was getting that mainline open and running, the public's health be damned! It's S.O. P. with these guys. If half a forest needs to be plowed under to get to a derailment, they'll do it. Got to get those derailed cars pushed to the side and that mainline opened.
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Our government officials are beholden to these corporations. They will protect them more than they will protect us.
The only difference between the Republican & Democrat is how fast the knee hits the floor when a donor walks in the room.
Humans will be extinct by 2026, if anyone were paying attention to the arctic ice record.
Ban all lobbying
It's called regulatory capture.
Average citizens are nothing but a revenue source to our incredibly corrupt government. Damn few of our elected officials honor their oath of office or respect the constitution. I consider America to be circling the drain because of the corruption.
@@Spock_Rogers It's called capitalism
The rail CEOs who enforce severe understaffing that led to this should be criminally charged and their pay packages should cover all remediation and health costs.
You know the train company successfully lobbied the Trump admin in 2017 to remove a regulation that the Obama admin had put in place, that would have required this train to use an ECP braking system. An ex official from the train safety board (name escapes me) - said it would likely have prevented the accident.
When you hear Republicans get giddy about the GOP removing regulations - this is the result.
Norfolk Southern's CEO is Alan Shaw. Don't know about the other C-suite criminals.
Yes, hell yes.
I seem to remember all the mainstream media ringing the doomsday bell about what a disaster a rail strike would cause. They hammered and hammered until Biden forced them to accept the contract. They need to be held accountable for this disaster also 😡
@@Barklord The more I see from the private sector the more I think should be nationalized. The necessities for life at least.
How about the first responders who weren’t alerted as to what the trains were carrying
Absolutely gut wrenching
They were all wearing the same equipment they would have had they known. Open windows, fans, and some housekeeping goes a long way. The information flow doesn't evolve at the speed of incidents.
The fact this was kept from major news for over a week is unreal. That they decided to burn these chemicals off is astoundingly nonchalant. Typical US lack of concern about human life
They covered the remains with truckloads of dirt.
My sister said they removed the dirt and the stench is in the air again.
It’s not so much a lack of care for human life, though in practice that’s what it seems. It is media being beholden to corporations that run America. Basically this whole situation makes Biden and the RR look bad, especially after the anti union stuff Biden pulled on the RR union, which was worried about this. So the media is covering up this, not making it a big deal to help the RR cover it’s butt and keep anti union sentiments high.
Because they've been using the UFOs as a coverup probably
It wasn't kept from major news outlets; the rich pricks up top just wanted to wait until after the Super Bowl to break the news so folks wouldn't pay attention.
@@sjenny5891 Where's your sister living? Feel free to just say "not East Palestine". Because that's not true.
This is one of those things that no matter how bad it is, we will NEVER know the full truth. The corporation and government have had a week to clean up and get their stories straight.
Remeber Biden is in the same bed with the RR companies as Trump. Imagine the Republicrats or Demlicans.
Whatever the corporations say, it’s probably 10x worst.
The NSR train wasn't even considered as “high-hazard flammable” due to lobbying efforts from the railroad to limit regulation.
And they lobbied to overturn a regulation with the Trump admin in 2017 that would have required ECP braking system that likely would have prevented the accident (or at least the impact of the accident).
Lmfao. What are you gonna do about it? Nothing! No one will! Americans are busy eating McDonald's and posting Facebook lmfaoooo!!!!! Losers.
@@zoeherriot *_Dangerous Deregulations: A Trump Legacy_* should be a book.
@@zoeherriot I remember Trump spouting off about how we had the cleanest air and water as if that was a reason for his heavy deregulation and not a reason why regulations work.
@@IGDetail yeah, I always thought that was hilarious. And people bought it.
if our government won't hold them accountable, private citizens unite! Sue them out of business.
You still have to go through a govt owned judicial system for that though..
Our govt is responsible.
itll get appealed to the supreme court and then the railway will win, assuming it gets that far.
Sue them? I think you mean remove them from power.
Revolution time is upon us shortly.
@@joshsmyth130 america baby
I used to be a member at my local fire department, when you realize the amount of trucks and trains transporting hazardous materials it becomes alarming how much of it is just taken through large populations and no one notices.
should be like plane crashes - tons of planes fly but they usually don't crash
Privatize the profits and socialize the losses and damages. It’s the American way. 😢
Straight to the points, greed never get enough so as capitalism, still fresh in mind in 2008 too big to b fall, they live as king play leverage with insane profit put all in danger and thing get worse everyone pay the bills and no one get held account for it
They really aren’t trying to talk about the train bomb that blew up in Ohio, and it’s saying a whole lot.
Who is they? Stop with the "they" shit, name who you are talking about.
Is "they" the people buying all these non-sustainable goods and filling their tanks with gasoline and operating in a mindless state of non-relation of their own impact that causes a need for these chemicals to be shipped in the first place?
@@user-account-not-found isn't that both poltical parties?
@@user-account-not-found Posted from what's most likely an iphone or apple computer. If you truly believe what you preach you wouldn't be on the internet.
@@user-account-not-found No.Try again.
I don't think people understand this is a huge devastation and all people will literally have to move out of the vicinity.
Not to mention. Who will pay for this disaster?? Something tells me public tax payers lolz
I mean, hate to be an ass, but it’s Ohio… they’re always for deregulations so I doubt things will change.
Ever heard of times beach? Visited it more than once. Most people are watching the super bowl, flying lets go brandon flags, and planning their next acquisition of material wealth. That's the system we live in Holly.
Time beach they had to incinerate the soil like 3 or 4 feet down.
@@TheIcecoldorange Ugh... You're probably right. Merica
If anyone else is really paying attention to what is going on it's not just in this area, it's hitting the main water supply and rivers lakes streams heading to everyone
Truth totally no enough attention of the consequences
WTF! Why would it take so long to figure out what's being transported on that train? Isn't a bill of lading required for everything being shipped? I would think that it would literally take mere minutes to determine what was being shipped on that train.
I was watching the news feed when they blew up that train car and the ticker tape on the news feed literally said that the chemicals were not toxic to humans even though there was a heavy chlorine odor in the air. Its like that movie Erin Brockavich
She's commented on this
I believe she's actually somewhere close waiting for them to let her in to speak with the community
There is evidence of increase in vinyl chloride gas in Cincinnati. That's bad enough news. However, it may not be due to the criminal mishandling of the materials involved in this disaster. Cincinnati is a major rail hub and has long been. Vast trains come through the railyards in Queensgate near Union Terminal and travel along US50 turning north near the Indiana border. There are countless cars of freight of what we will never know. It's not as though railroads, that are essential to the infrastructure of commerce, are forthcoming with such information.
This is why the railroad unions need to wildcat strike.
THIS!!!!!!!!!
And other labor unions need to join in
And the rest of us need to wholeheartedly support them - that's how this gets solved. Leaving them to fight it out on their own isn't enough.
Exactly
Workers could bring our corrupt government and greedy companies to their knees with a united strike. Not just unions, but all workers. The hard part of this is so many folks no leeway in their budgets. Our corrupt politicians have seen to this.
I’m glad y’all are covering this because I’m around Cincinnati (@250 miles away) and there’s almost ZERO coverage here. I’ve talked to 3 people in the past week that hadn’t even heard about the derailment and possible contamination of the Ohio River. The river is within walking distance of all our homes.
30 minutes north of you.
I only heard about it because my sister lives there.
I am in the new richmond bethel area and i just heard it today
It's already showing up - upstream in Cincinnati. Do not drink the water,
@@jiggyfun807 I wish this was not happening. Do you know if the water in PA is safe?
I have been all over this literally all day.. it's already being detected in the Ohio River. Don't drink it!
The railroad should probably be offering to relocate people in the immediate area outright. Buy their homes and pay to move them wherever they want to go. It will probably be cheaper and safer to just do that than move people back in and risk exposure. I guess they have plenty of incentive to shrug it off and wait for people to die in 20 years of cancer, when it will be difficult to prove a link.
Hahahahahahaha that costs money so no
They'll be immediate health effects. I think they'll be a buyout
That's exactly why they said go back to your home. The railroad would be on the hook for all the properties.
I knew there'd be consequences for quashing the rail worker strike but I never expected them this quickly
They need to abandon the area, and get help doing it. Getting a health check up now so you can sue while you're dying? Hell with that.
I'm an employee in charge of hazmat cleanup for a large shipping firm in the US. I can tell you that this is a stark example of a problem that persists in many places handling hazardous materials and waste. I see it in packaging, and in the way my immediate management treats my department. This has also been made extremely worse since covid as many facility audits by the authorities that regulate the transportation of hazmats(there are 7) halted or slowed their frequency.
In my case, I work in a facility where a worst-case scenario would be isolated to the 100 or so employees working and would not have an effect on the surrounding homes, etc. Regardless, my department is incredibly short staffed and seen as a drain on production. We are expected to cut corners when dealing with spills if they have stopped or slowed production. Employees and management in the building are not held accountable to the proper spill repording protocols. These incidents are often manipulated by the rank and file before I'm able to get to the spills.
I will state that the company has put a lot of money in to train me and requires every employee to do annual hazmat training. The fact remains that accountability is missing at the local management level.
Last year, we were actually told last February that we would not get audited in all of 2022. You can imagine that gave my management the knowledge that they could ignore my department and things got rapidly worse. Now, they are scrambling to put the pieces back together as an audit is eminent. You can be sure that I will accurately describe to the auditors how my department is handled.
These kinds of trains go right through Philadelphia, right next to a major river and a train station. Infrastructure in Philly is rough. It’s terrifying.
I come from a town like East Palestine. These people don't have access to healthcare to get a checkup.
The so called United States of America has no right to call itself the greatest country in the world it's not when it's people have no acces to proper and affordable healthcare.
America is not the land of the free far from it so glad and blessed to live here in Europe where it's so much better period.
Don't get me wrong i truly feel sorry for all those people who are suffering right now they did not deserved this my heart goes out for them.
You are screwed
Too bad none of these corporations will be held accountable .... smh 😒😒😒
Laws are for poor people
@@SpoopySquid capitalism 🙂
I think they will be held accountable. This is too big of a screw up to just ignore.
Guaranteed they aren't telling you the truth! The damage or danger is 10x worse than they are saying.
That part!
I'm sure that some libertarian lunatic will likely try to find some way to blame all of this on excessive regulation.
So a Republican like rand Paul, Jim Jordan, and Ted Cruz
@@elconquistador5469 we know. You're a loe T sheep.
Excessive regulation is an oxymoron in the US
@@elconquistador5469 Are you a child or why do you need your hand to be held?
Lol
I live in Sandusky. Ohio, right on the shores of Lake Erie, about 2 hours northwest of East Palestine. We had our train derailment with Norfolk Southern in October and the city is still waiting for repairs. The chemical leaked was paraffin wax and the damage caused was to the sewer infrastructure, the underpass retaining walls, the pavement below, and much more. Thank God the chemical spill wasn't as bad as in East Palestine but we are still without the use of the street.
They're too busy sending money to Ukraine and Turkey and everywhere but here. Turkey needs help, yes, but the money never gets where it should. And do we ever get any thanks or appreciation? Hell, no!
@RMPsumma the fault in the government is the rollback of regulations and the beholding to lobbyists. This all could have been prevented.
Now it is time for the railroads to pay up but they don't want to spend their profits on that. They would rather use that money for stock buybacks. When its profits its privatized, and when you have a situation like this, now they want to socialize their damages.
Not to mention the workers complained of being understaffed and safety issues, but to no avail. We must hold them to account.
@@user-ln7jw2qn6h The fault right now is the loathsome Biden and his entire loathsome administration. Democrats LOVE regulations, regulations which they never follow themselves. I am damned angry over what they've done, and continue to do to this once great nation. They've all but destroyed it.
@RMPsumma yes, the Biden administration could make changes or regulations, right now. They wouldn't even need congressional approval because it would be under safety.
When certain trains carry certain hazardous chemicals they were made to have a special breaking system and not rely on the civil war era brakes we use today.
Even the level of chemical hazardous material was downgraded to appease lobbyists.
This failure goes back to at least 3 administrations.
@@user-ln7jw2qn6h Biden, Biden, he's the man. If he doesn't kill us, Kamala can.
I'm a retired locomotive engineer and you have no idea how much danger your report doesn't contain thanks to Regan and the republicans.
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Um. The president (potato) is BIDEN. Its Biden’s COVER UP. A page from Chinas playbook.
@@CM-rg9zg THE Republicans put changes in place. When do you own up to that.
Reagan is literally the most evil president, he fucked up everything for the public good
Duuuh. Obama and democrats did nothing too. Blame Wallstreet. Learn economics.
Thanks ou for covering this
I live in Canada and this is the first I heard of this.
The Board of Directors of Norfolk Southern authorized a $10 billion stock buyback last March, after paying out $7 billion in buybacks between 2019 and 2021. For contrast, East Palestine, Ohio spends less than $20 million each year on civic services, some 350 times less than those railroad stock buybacks.
Poor animals in the area 😢
Emma, I remember that work you did on the Delaware story. It's fucked up here - and it's gonna get worse given how many people are moving here from NJ and NY.
That last advice is extraordinary. It's "good" advice but dystopian at the same time. It shows you how hopeless we became, how powerless our society is against these abusers.
Capitalism + Government = absolute power will automatically silent those who disagree
Norfolk southern is having a really bad few months. In December, a new-hire trainee was riding in the cab when a metal beam protruding from a passing train shot though the cab, killing the student.
Time for the federal government to own, and run the rails, in the U.S.
Absolutely not. This shit will happen even if the feds ran the railroads.
The solution is simple: end all subsidies and lobbying for the railroads.
All infrastructure should be seized by the government.
Name 1 good program the Federal Government have run in the past 3 decades
Oh yeah that’s the solution (sarc)
One state's constitution (Oklahoma) says that railroads are to be nationalized. Better than nothing imo.
What happened in Ohio is awful these companies need to be held accountable also this country 's government officials are so into corporate money is one of the reasons why it happened I wish we had more politicians in office who are railroad workers
They are likely gonna pay a few million dollars to get a slap on the wrist.
@@tenkenroo Pay a small fine, maybe have a rep cry in front of a congressional committee and then drop the cost of the clean up/damages on the taxpayer.
No only in ohio
It's crazy that this derailment could create a ghost town and no one will be held accountable for that.
Hey Sam. Thanks for covering this story. I work for a Class 1 railroad in Canada and the big difference between the way things are run is pre departure inspections. Every time a train leaves it's originating terminal it must be inspected by a Carman. They get an allotted time per car to inspect brakes, wheels, airlines etc. American Carmen have much less time to inspect and are often pushed by their company to sign off on cars that should be brought to the car shop for repairs. This obviously increases the risk that cars in need of repair are sent down the line where inevitably accidents will happen.
Profit. Short term. When will the greedy learn?
Was a "controlled explosion" (whatever that means) really the best way to deal with the chemicals??? I find that very difficult to believe.
It's used to put out oil wells on fire. A controlled explosion is a carefully measured blast. It's used when a building is scheduled for demolition. Is it the best way to deal with chemicals? Depends. Gases tend to be easily disrupted with explosions and fire will take care of most noxious fumes.
Controlled burns are indeed a viable strategy if used correctly and if they cause less harm than the explosion would. The people who made that decision need to show that the explosion would have been worse. Furthermore, they need to ensure people are evacuated and testing is done prior to them coming back. None of that seems like it was done correctly.
Like when a rotten, whale carcass washes up on the beach - Best idea: Blow it up!
Eeeee-haaa!
I've worked with BNSF and UP for a number of years, specifically auditing demurage and transit paperwork. It takes LITERALLY 4 MINS to pull up the ENTIRE manifest history of a single car. Every maintenance service, every cargo shipment. 4 MINUTES.
7 days to release is clearly bullshit
It is probably better to evacuate the town and compensate the residents.
“Socialize the losses. Privatize the gains.”
Notice how the media and the government aren't talking about it 🤔🤔🤔
The company responsible should pay every resident in the area’s medical bills and lost home value
Exactly, Sam! Getting a health checkup might be a no-brainer in civilized countries. However, we don't have affordable healthcare or guaranteed sick days in this failed state of a nation. How many people will suffer in the long run because getting a checkup is just not possible for them?
Jessica please migrate to Europe you are more than welcome over here and people over here have affordable healthcare and in some European country's it's totaly free.
America is not the greatest country in the world there are better country's.
@Justin Williams What a dumb statement GUNS really seriously WOW?
Btw we have bacon here as well you can keep you're guns over there they are worthless anyway just look at all of the mass and school shootings that are happening over there not something to be proud of a great and affordable healthcare system is so much better period.
Europe is so much better than the so called land of the free it's not.
@Justin Williams Yet again another dumb statement.
Nukes are definitely worthless and pointless.
@Justin Williams USA #1 sure whatever keep believing in that lie and fantasy if that makes you happy.
America the so called land of the free doesn't even come close on being number one you are definitely being brainwashed i feel sorry for you.
Once again there are better country's America is not the greatest country in the world and it's definitely not the land of the free far from it.
Other than that i hope that you have a great day😊
Not a single peep on the evening news.
The Ohio Department of Natural Resources is already reporting dead fish (estimates as high as 3,500 dead fish so far) and locals are reporting that their pets and livestock are suddenly getting sick and/or dying. Norfolk Southern and the gov. just served these poor people a massive shit sandwich.
So that's why the Government diverting our attention?
Where did the smoke plume and chemicals go after leaving the Train Crash area?
Same company similar accident , major explosion in Columbus, Ohio back in 2012. These people are criminals.
honestly, rail workers should just go on strike anyways, bring the economy to its knees. I don't really want that either, cause it will suck but sometimes bad things need to happen to actually make any real progress.
I live in Lorain County which is about 20 minutes south of Cleveland. I live in a village and our tiny downtown has an intersection of two different tracks. Trains are going by all day and night. This really makes me worry.
I live east of you in Bay. Every time I hear the trains go by I wonder when it’s going to happen to us.
Flee😊
@@qjtvaddict What a simple minded answer. Some people can't simply flee.
Should have been a wildcat strike
It's Ohio, no big loss.
I worked for the RR for 15 years. My health was so bad I had to leave. Now I've been trying to get a disability, (which I paid for, with my own money. ) thru there RR disability board and I'm still fighting them to get it. It's been two years now..
The RR retirement program has more money than SS. many people don't know that.. it's because they drive you into such poor health, when you retire, you simply die 6 months later, and the RR retirement board just puts the money back into the fund and it grows and grows..
You don't understand what is going on here.. you don't understand the conditions..
I spend an average of two days a week in the VA hospital getting help.. the RR simply doesn't care about anything or anyone..
A River is a moving body of water. It’s not just the people and the wildlife in the area that will be affected. It will affect people for miles down stream.
The ohio river is the biggest contributer to the mississippi
Who's going to pay for the cleanup of their house.
The $25,000 for the whole city should cover it!
I hope we can do an aid package and get guarantees against prosecution and law suits so their stock price is not affected. That would be the true disaster.
Not gonna lie, I'm ashamed of the lackluster air sampling, spill sampling and water sampling done by the US EPA. This is my line of work and it had me shaking my head how bad they handled this.
Well we have been consistently under funding the EPA for decades because "regulators bad"
@@matthewmoore7447 Don't worry, I blame them more.
@@matthewmoore7447 Business and government are constantly complicit in these moments. This is what when ONLY profit drives policy.
They never should have let those people go back there
Evening news don’t care, certainly our government being beholden to these corporations won’t
It's absolutely devastating to see how we treat our communities and environment. We will have nowhere left to go if we continue to let these corporations and capitalism dictate the fate of our land.
I want to be able to enjoy the natural beauty of the world, but it keeps being taken away from us. We've already lost so much and I can't stand it anymore.
Get a health checkup with all the health insurance you don't have.
You can't support less regulation and then stand with righteous indignation. This is exactly what you wanted, whether or not you can admit it to yourself. This is where less regulation leads.
We complainerd about Chernobyl and Fukushima and how poorly their governments dealt with their toxins.
Now it's our turn and obvious we arent doing any better
Only in America could this be normal
Suppose they wanted to move now. Who would buy a house there? Their lives have been destroyed.
Lmfao. What are you gonna do about it? Nothing! No one will! Americans are busy eating McDonald's and posting Facebook lmfaoooo!!!!! Losers.
I mean... their lives were destroyed when they chose to move to Ohio so... yeah.
I don't think they should ever go home. Let the railroad buy the whole town.
DNR here in Michigan, did years ago, would issue a weekly advisory about whether it was safe to eat the fish caught in the Great Lakes. Changed day to day. Safe to eat today, not today. Crazy.
Hey, I just found out there's another one of these in Louisiana from Union Pacific.
The other thing with "Get out of there if you can", in the capitalist society we're in, is anyone going to buy a home here for the foreseeable future? The most valuable asset many of these people own is now worthless.
Iam afraid to drink any water from the tap at home. The best I can do is filter our drinking water with reverse osmosis filters.we still have to bathe in the tap water. We don't live in a risky area , I couldn't imagine what these people are going thru
Why are you living in fear? You know you can test your water to see if you actually should be worried or not? I recommend you get your water tested so that you're not bathing and freaking out about it. I do understand the temptation to be overly cautious, but you're bordering on paranoia.
@justastripe living just south of flint Michigan, they let those people drink lead for a years and didn't say a word and when they were caught nothing happened, every freshwater lake and stream is polluted with pfas fire retardant you really shouldn't eat the fish sorry if iam a little paranoid
I am from this area. It sickens me what has happened here.
the ohio river valley is at risk. who needs drinking water? who needs clean water for crops?
The poison has settled into the waterways soils and are there to stay
Good point, how can they thoroughly test if they don’t know what leaked, seriously, how good do you think their tests are OR is Norfolk testing to see what’s “detectable” and what they might be held accountable for.. THEY KNOW EXACTLY WHATS ON THOSE TRAINS DOWN TO THE PENNY AS SOON AS THEY LEAVE THE STATION..ITS ALL ABOUT PROFIT. Any delay of information was only to cover Norfolks liability…..
What company owned the actual cargo of hazardous, lethal materials on this train? Isn't the railway required to notify every town the train passes through about their cargo of hazardous materials?
I'd check into the rail and the cargo corporation's majority holders/investors and their countries of origin.
Anyone know what happened to the conductor of that train?
My question too.
A standard story of profits over people in the USA.
HOW MANY HOURS did it take to push the wreckage aside to repair the tracks and reactivate the moving of more TRAINS OF DEATH CARGO through the town???
👹 In Palestine - How symbolic of them.
And this is why I support ALL RAILROAD STRIKES!!!!
I'm reminded of that movie Dark Water with Mark Ruffalo about corporation effectively poisoning a town in a way similar to how Emma described. Scary stuff.
Look how close that part of Ohio is to WV, similar policies in both locations
This is just the latest toxic train derailment. This occurs often, just like oil pipeline spills. Awful.
This kind of media blackout and reporter arrest were what U.S. usually accused its enemy of doing.
There was something like this in Graniteville SC
in 2005 I think.....🤦🏾♀️
and what are these politicians fussing about?
Maybe I'm just making myself feel better by saying that because I live in Columbus and winds typically move from the southwest to the north and east or from the West to the east that I'm safe.
Where is your water from?
Nope your not, you get water downstream. Buy water. I’m in circleville and I won’t drink the water!
@@Masquaradethewriter Surface water reservoirs
@@ericpoeperic from the Ohio watershed
You are… but it’s understandable
Job 9:24 “The earth is given into the hand of the wicked: he covereth the faces of the judges thereof; if not, where, and who is he?”
It's wild that this is what makes rightwingers give a shit about the environment lol
They DON'T CARE. SCOTUS stripped the EPA.
And GREEN ENERGY is an environmental disaster, too. Lithium and cobalt mining aren't GREEN.
Makes no difference. Nothing will be done. While the region will suffer for decades.
The railroad CEO’s should all be sued and jailed!! This is criminal and crimes against humanity!!
How the heck were people supposed to know to stay inside etc, if they kept it quiet? That's nuts. It's another 'accident' just like the gas pipe 'accident'. What a world. SMH 🙏
It's crazy to me that even in the middle of a pandemic something like this happens and people don't think hmm maybe I'll put on a mask
This community basically was just destroyed and their livelihoods ruined and they’re gonna have to evacuate thousands of people, and you chose this moment in time to mask-shame them? Lmao unbelievable
That's because you libs are still wearing cloth masks like it does anything to stop a virus. If you are anywhere near this crash don't drink the water and GTFO. The chemicals might even make a gas mask deteriorate quickly, do not fuck around.
As with the c virus, a paper mask won't protect you from tiny molecules of chemical poison in the air. It might be helpful for smoke from the fire a little bit, but not for poisonous gases or viruses.
You’d need a full on gas mask to protect yourself from these toxic gases.
@@CampingforCool41 You need a full suit.
The railroad will pin it on a low level employee thus limiting their corporate liability.
Gotta have the freight company pay for EVERYTHING and the president should have authority to REPLACE whoever is RUNNING that shit show with someone HE THINKS WILL DO BETTER.
Some of the cars contained Vinyl Chloride - Chronic exposure can cause permanent liver injury and liver cancer, neurologic or behavioral symptoms, and changes to the skin and bones of the hand.
That stuff is hell on earth, with such an accident need to be hundreds of miles other side than the wind at the time.
Get out of the fallout zone.
Get a new lif, anything else not worth it and never buy anything containing toxic chemicals in future.
As the Hazmat expert stated, NS's main concern was getting that mainline open and running, the public's health be damned! It's S.O. P. with these guys. If half a forest needs to be plowed under to get to a derailment, they'll do it. Got to get those derailed cars pushed to the side and that mainline opened.
I remember last week cars crashed in China is there any links?
Norfolk Sutton NEEDS to be held accountable for this!!
Your ground reporter is a bomb😍😍😍