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For the sake of accuracy: the PearAI editor is a fork of VSCode and the PearAI coding assistant (they call it pearai-submodule) is a fork of Continue (which is an extension similar to Copilot.)
These founders in particular are extremely unlikable. This is peak San Francisco vibe.
As an aside.
AI code editors make you worse at coding.
The junior Devs at my company can't even do basic programming in anything without an llm integrated.
Junior dev here, my coding significantly improved after disabling copilot.
@@wondays654 good for you, you'll be able to make it to your next level in half the time. I find the LLM makes a Dev feel like they know how to do something without actual knowledge or skills being attained.
Yeah, using Cursor made me feel useless and I found myself getting worse at problem solving.
Well I agree to an extent, however wasn't everyone saying a few years ago that a lot of coding is just googling? This is super Google when it comes to code.
HOWEVER, if they are not generating ideas themselves and then seeking guidance from chat, and instead just feeding code into it and copy pasting what comes back or asking it what to do next, then that's an issue.
hello sorry if this is a bit off topic, but could you give advice to someone like me who is just trying to get into the market. Things seems extremely competitive now that I would be happy to just get an entry level job or internship to begin with.
This is peak "tech bro" vibe. Makes saying I work in tech embarrassing (this sort of stuff).
> fork vscode
> write a llm wrapper
> profit
Do it. If it's that easy.
@@paone9851 making a llm wrapper is not hard either...
@@paone9851but is it morally good?
@@paone9851 It's not that easy unfortunately, you have to be born in America know the right people to actually get in Scam-Combinator and then it's on easy street. But if you're born in money, and daddies' connections are loaded, you might end of up as a tech founder, founded by scam-combinator.
One way or another, everyone in the industry is building on top of open-source. However, the issue with PearAI seems to be how they handle criticism. It's also funny that they actually have a commit where they changed every instance of 'continue' to 'PearAI.'
Built on top of open-source and blatantly stealing a repository, replacing the oss license with a proprietary one is entirely different, what people say that almost everything is built on top of open-source they mean stuff like the databases running behind the apis, the scaling clusters with Kubernetes, the CI/CD pipelines, the source control system that is being used, those are products that are utilized and used on their own to build your product, you don't go and get the source for PostgreSQL and just add it to your codebase (well in most cases). Usually you use open-source tools to build with yes, but that's not stealing as anyone is allowed to use, extend and modify them to their own preference as long as one thing is clear, any change should be disclosed, and if the source code is being added to your codebase, the portion that uses it should remain free and public as the license states.
For some it might really not matter but building any viable product especially when you do it 1-2 hours after work every day for free, takes a long time, sometimes years and then one day you see that notification on User- starred your repository. Then few weeks later few more do, and suddenly it starts to take off, those people find issues that you do your best to address and at the same time spent time to finish off what your started, and then one day, two blatant scammers with chicken nest haircuts just fork whatever you spent time doing, as well as hopefully other maintainers that might have joined during the years and just ignore all the licenses in place, rename the important bits to seem like they did this, and go on twitter blatantly saying, yo dawg, i ChatGPT the license, we are busy building and we can't be bothered with legal right now.
What the fuck are you actually busy with, renaming and butcher my work for the last 2-3 years?
Being a maintainer is stressful and ungrateful enough and I do believe that we as developers shouldn't indorse or accept anything like this, because tomorrow, it might not be the repository of Microsoft where they have engineers on staff working on most of the stuff but your repository and I am sure you wouldn't like to see someone else make money of your baby, if anyone does make a profit that person should be you.
Been doing tech for pay for 36 years now. Up to waiting two years+ before bothering to take any "new! shiny!" seriously enough to start learning or using it. Saves me a lot of time, and money, that would have been spent on fads, on first-system fails, on hype-ware.
The problem is clearly that you're using light mode twitter. Try dark mode.
I expected this to be about the Wordpress drama.
Frying Pan and his cofounder are actually cool I thought...
Never trust UA-camrs who bounce around jobs
"Nobody really knows what's going to happen" Very true words
Remarkably well reasoned perspective, honestly refreshing to hear
"Vim Blablabla who cares" loool , Prime might faint if he hears this lool
How long until PearAI gets forked?
I return back to LSP like I return back to Dark Default theme of VSCode.
they for got to put an nft on the pro gram
Yet another Vscode fork
Just add a "Founder" in your LinkedIn title.
If something is free, it doesn’t mean you can do whatever you want with it. Respect the developers and the original license, otherwise it is indeed stealing. Not sure how this can be "out of context".
The problem is people playing word games with the definition of "stealing"
Also the vague use of the word "free".
Something being free to use does not mean free to modify, free to redistribute, free to sell, free to neglect credit, etc.
So yeah, just follow the license.
Apple software is basically 99% open source "stolen" software with Apple headers added to imply the US actual work.
e.g ALAC which is just FLAC with an adjusted header.
What you talking about they didn’t violate the license. If they didn’t violate the license they can do what they want why are you salty
@@bryanchukwurah1141 The founder admitted it in the postmortem statement. The license was later changed.
Much needed video. I was really going crazy with reading all those tweets of new stuff which i would never see again. Thanks for the video man!
My true DSA goat
If most of the value is really in the open source part, then nobody is going to pay for the product.
Fork these forks, i just want to use VSCode with dark monokai theme, That's it.
These code editors are going to become the next... absolutely nothing...
I thought he was just an intern employee at Coinbase and now he was just work at another company 🤔
From that... he wasn't technically quitting his job.
This is probably your worst take.
You have a bias with them cause you know them, and you don't have any experience in open source. You're not realizing how big of a deal it is to change the license in open source.
When I say it's not a big deal I mean that there probably won't be any significant consequences from it. I could be wrong but that's what I think. I dont expect any thing to result from it.
Companies break the GPL all the time and nothing happens. It's still a dick move though.
Right dude, cos you need a bias to tell that people harassing this Asian kid are insane lmao
I think they just fucked up every aspect and disrespected a large and giving community. It's just a bad look and their children. Cool thing is this is a growing experience. End of the day the idea doesn't matter. Continue and Pearai is funded by YC. Meaning YC got both Negative and Positive attention. 500k isn't funding pearai. It's funding their subscriber count and influence.
'this is the root of why we have such a strong community right off the bat'
uh i feel like thats mostly cuz of your youtube celelbrity, frying pan. No different than neetcodes success being largely driven by this channels success.
They said they had 100 contributors 😂
Hi NeetCode, what do you think of Arc Browser?
pan is your friend right and your saying he stole continue, gg
Cursor is goated
nobody cares about licences and nothing has ever been done against copied code, only salty tears from people who have nothing better to do
Maybe you don't but a lot of people who built the software the worlds runs on do
@@jonathan2847then maybe they should actually do something about it
Next a reaction video on George's new video?.....
(technically not a new video anymore...wanted to ask this while back)
love the ending
Well if YC doesen't care then why should we, lol 😂.
I always wondered why do we have exactly the same type of startups coming up, how do they even survive and if the benefit is already being provided then why do even people consider to shift to it !!
now I know
Bro LIGHT MODE NOOOOOOO..
I guess anyone can be a founder nowadays. All these San Fran clowns need to stop.
Should start #boycottThisShi…
Never gonna touch these
This dude is doing PR damage control for them. 😂 He's really comparing them to Steve Jobs, Gates and Linux. Bruh
Is that really how you interpreted it
Ycombinator is a pile of crap, nothing new.
Nvim
Agreed
Yay another YC funded AI slop project! Yawn.
Eli the computer guy said it best you want standard or very thing goes to shit and the ide standard is vscode
309 views in 10 mins bro fell off (jk love you)
Imagine being a professional software engineer and you still use VS CODE of all things. The whole JetBrains suite crushes vs code like a bug. if youre still on VS code youre like a kid drawing with crayons during their college exams.
Noob spotted, code editor doesn’t matter
Copilot gives me tokens for $10/mo unlimited and cursor is $20/Mo for unlimited gpt4o AND Claude tokens.
That's the huge value like you said. Tokens are pricey for big models. Getting a lot of tokens for cheap is where the best value currently is.
spongebob episode comes to mind