It’s a special plane cause it’s the last of a line of prop-era heavy interceptors with engines on the wings. Also from an era of airframes that could be bombers or heavy interceptors but before widespread multirole fighters.
I spaded it when it still had an air-spawn (and this bomber is probably the reason why rank 6-7 jets no longer have it). Its kinda like the Russian space program.... Also the landing flaps are the airbrakes that it can deploy under 630km/h! I wonder if we ever get the interceptor variant of this plane?
it was fun when i grinded it and realized that speed is on my side. outside of that, since they added the interceptor version of vaotour i would love to see the interceptor version of this(yak28P) with a radar and missiles.
I have played it like this: Choose the 3000kg Bomb, take off, steep climb (about 30° or even 40° with engine upgrades, 20° to 25° without), leveling the aircraft at an altitude of 8000m to 10km, gain speed until my bomb redicle is over a base I have selected, drop the bomb and then fly back to the base. Often you are not even behind the line of allied bases and you are already heading towards the airfield. Very effective but not a lot of fun. I have died in this thing due to these tactics about 10 times in 60 or 70 matches.
Additionally: usually you will be able to take off twice. I targeted two different bases on the first two runs and if was able to make a third run, I have chosen the 6 250kg bombs and dropped three on each damaged base.
Climbing so much is useless cuz Su-7's will steal your bases, better tactic is not climbing before you get to 1100km/h, then lightly climb trying not to drop below 1000km/h, drop bomb and return gliding or climb to the space out climbing everyone if someone starts chasing you
This plane is great in Simulator battles where you are harder to spot, and at 8.3-9.3 BR range, this is probably the only supersonic plane, except for maybe the f11
@@oiermontero2310 i think so but if i recall correctly the su-7 isnt really meant to fly supersonic for extended periods of time, i could be wrong though
@@dosidicusgigas1376 matches dont last that long anyway. I actually have had good games, climb like a monkey, bomb a base and try and catch an unsuspecting a10 3km below you
I know you don't play ground much but I think another thing you could mention in this type of video is how useful the plane is in CAS at various levels of upgrades. It seems like the big bomb could be useful in ground RB for clearing points and such, like a PE-8 that can get to the battlefield and RTB in a reasonable amount of time.
Nice a good idea and nice to see a stock vehicle played and then gradually get better performance, very nice to see this. But with these types of Planes/bombers at this BR no way to even bother trying to spade it in AirRB I would just rather do it in GroundRB cause you can get yourself more Xp from tank kills and have almost nothing to really bother you in the match well not nothing but not too much most matches that would be out there to knock ya out the sky. Gaijin REALLY NEEDS to fix the BR brackets decompress or whatever just anything where you have at least somewhat a chance.
I really like this series. I haven't seen anyone doing a stock grind series, if it is worth it to keep grinding, cause some vehicles are really bad at stock but they get pretty good fully developed. Too bad the Yak28 sucks, I have it developed and bought, but I haven't used it.
I do fine with the Yak-28B. The only problem that I have with it is the fact that depending on the match or br, you can’t oneshot a base, but I know how to use the strengths of the plane to avoid dying and also get kills, even in proper dogfights. I beat a few F-5C’s in dogfights by making them bleed their speed and then rate-fighting and energy trapping them.
Why is it like that ? It’s so weird In the German arado I can drop bombs at any angle and get a perfect hit .but this I have to be level before dropping or it’ll be super inaccurate.
best way i foiund was bombing and ground units for mig-27 and ground and ai air targets for mig-23, aim for flares first then usal route of ammo, bomb/rockets then get the missiles(if missiles are at the end of the tech tree(if not get the missiles while grinding), then get G suits and then movement mods and then survival mods
Love my Yak-28B. Beautiful plane. Not the easiest to spade though, and the stock grind is painful. Eventually you'll get the big payload and the bases will fear you.
Not gonna lie to you. I wanted to start a War Thunder series also called "Stock to Spaded" a few months ago but never got around to it! But here we are!
I like this video, it puts non premiums in the spotlight, one idea for bombers like these, is how would they perform in ground rb? Those bombs could be alot more points against player tanks. Just a thought. Keep it up!
Hoping the yak 28B gets Fire extinguishers While also transferring to being the plane that drops the nuke for Russia. As it makes more sense as is more fair.
this is really one of the br compression issues, its a fine plane for 9.3, but its not a 9.3, it might as well be a 10.3, almost a 80% uptier rate, it only fights 10 to 10.3 planes, faster, more maneuverable, missiles galore, similar issue to the maus.
G'day tankenstein, While an informative video for some yet for me it's seeing fresh eyes playing it. Btw this bit is quick copy of a reply I made on reddit sometime ago with a few edits, () = edits. Yes at high altitude it's able to make it's maximum speed but under 3000 metres you gotta fly at like 70% throttle so to not hit it's Vline and rip apart. (originally the person was asking how it's speed was at high alt) BTW get used to glide bombing as level bombing is inaccurate as all hell. (from my experience level bombing never really worked as the high bombspread and rather inaccurate bombsight would often screw you over and flying at low alt is often a death sentence) I've found gliding in a 40° decend helps an aim up the target an drop a few seconds before as the bomb it's has a delayed drop (with bombay doors open). (these were what many on the forum talked about and even the wiki states to dive when making bombing runs to help the bomb to have a chance to hit) My strategy is when taking off get to just below max speed to the left or right of the airfield then put it in a 30° incline (maybe less when stock) an climb while afterburning to reach an altitude of around 16000 metres then fly to a bombing point an processed to glide bomb dropping down to 10000-8000 metres to aim the bomb then turn around an RTB. (My ARB strate which work around 60/40 % of times for glide bombing, Anyway that was more for 10.0 matches to be that high while 9.3/8.3 would see me up to 10 000 metres) BTW it has no air brakes so get used to doing sharp turns to bleed speed before landing the landing gear speeds are under 540 kmph but it's parachute works now to so that'll slow you down. (It used to have a bugged chute in that it would deploy at like 370kmph then disappear at around 280kmph but it was fixed some time ago) My loadout usually is the FAB-1500 for points or FAB-250's for ground targets, I also use flares prioritised for CM & take air target belts for the few chances I get to fire the cannons. (Imo I found that the FAB-1500 was better asif it hit you'd only need two trips and you weren't wasting tonnage with the FAB-3000 then needing FAB-500's to finish two bases. I would take FAB-250's for low alt anti ground target runs but the increase of superior attackers makes this unfisable. The FAB-3000 is only useful against large warships like the Forrestal class, Baltimore class and Pr.26 on some maps) Unfortunately this aircraft cannot destroy a base on it's own but it can be a good grinder an gets a nice colour scheme. (IMHO the quad camo is a nice skin then bare metal) This is definitely a not meta aircraft an a hard one to master but hope that helps fellow Yakovlev Yak-28B Brewer pilot. (If the FAB-3000 could destroy a base it be great but due to large bombs causing less shrapnel it ain't great with the only possible upgrade being either damage is change or we get the Tupolev Tu-22 Blinder-C for 9.7 as that aircraft would give the russian TT a great meta friendly bomber) I often still fly this bird out an still fine joy in it as afterall why else would I fly 150 missions in it an heh only 22 deaths is quite an achievement imo lol.
Would you trade that supersonic speed and your guns, for a better bomb load: Introducing the subsonic weaponless, flareless by default Buccaneer S.2 (can trade 2 bomb pilons for flares- none by default), easily think its worse than Yak-28B, and I main the thing
@@x_Degurechaff_x That is if you can get to a base before all the supersonic fighters get there with napalm/bombs, or other strike fighters or other bombers (which are all faster with the exception of the A10, as far as runway starts are concerned). Plus you need to be worried about being intercepted by fighters, or all aspect missiles. Taking a flare pod would be fine for the most part if the spotting wasn't so inconsistent, I've had matches where I was watching an AV-8A approach my from above and beyond from a solid 5km out but only actually spot it at .75km out. With that kind of dumb shit, good luck being fully aware of all the enemies and their missiles 360°. There's still the issue of you can rarely kill trailing fighters, because most of them you are slower than, less maneuverable, and bleed energy faster than, and if they overshoot you can't do anything anyway (trust me the AIM-9Bs are fucking useless if the person you are shooting at can still turn or at the very least pitch up). TL:DR you can't fight back even with flare pods 90% of the time.
B29 and Vickers P were the worst to grind for me. There are some truly painful vehicles to spade. Would it be faster to grind a plane like this using it as CAS in ground battles?
I was so disappointed when I got this plane because I’d been looking forward to it while grinding up the Russian bomber line, and it just ended up being really mediocre: it doesn’t help that I took it up to 12.0 to play with my friend either lol
whatever pitty points they give me LMFAO ...... 🤣😂😁 But this bomber shouldn't be facing things like the A-10 with all aspect missiles. Either give this thing missiles or something or drop it down to like 8.0 or 8.3 or around there.
I grinded my entire soviet toptier air with a talisman in this plane , at tree top level you can only speed up to about 1100kph which isn't the full potential of your engines, so whenever someone chases you you start climbing with full afterburner such a way you don't bleed speed. I remember once I earned 25k rp from just one game even after losing the match by making bombing sorties only. Rewards were much better back then.
yeah this thing is garbage. I was super hypted for a supersonic bomber, but you can't kill a base, any base, with it's loadout in one sortie... and it is WILDLY inaccurate when trying to precision bomb from altitude, even subsonic. it's only saving grace is (was) it's ability to go supersonic and stay at altitude. you were more likely to survive to make more than one bomb run... until we got loads of supersonic interceptors in it's BR range with good missiles.
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They really should have just added the Yak-28P "firebar".
I really would love to see the interception version.
It’s a special plane cause it’s the last of a line of prop-era heavy interceptors with engines on the wings. Also from an era of airframes that could be bombers or heavy interceptors but before widespread multirole fighters.
My math teacher used to pilot Yak-28 during army serivce
He Russian?
@@pietrotreccani2729 he could be Ukrainian or Middle Eastern
Damn, thats cool
@@little_weed192 right
But I presume that he is more likely Russian and he escaped the Soviet Union as soon as it fell
That's really cool
I spaded it when it still had an air-spawn (and this bomber is probably the reason why rank 6-7 jets no longer have it). Its kinda like the Russian space program.... Also the landing flaps are the airbrakes that it can deploy under 630km/h!
I wonder if we ever get the interceptor variant of this plane?
I really hope this series is here to stay, Its a very fun concept : D
it was fun when i grinded it and realized that speed is on my side. outside of that, since they added the interceptor version of vaotour i would love to see the interceptor version of this(yak28P) with a radar and missiles.
I have played it like this:
Choose the 3000kg Bomb, take off, steep climb (about 30° or even 40° with engine upgrades, 20° to 25° without), leveling the aircraft at an altitude of 8000m to 10km, gain speed until my bomb redicle is over a base I have selected, drop the bomb and then fly back to the base. Often you are not even behind the line of allied bases and you are already heading towards the airfield. Very effective but not a lot of fun. I have died in this thing due to these tactics about 10 times in 60 or 70 matches.
Additionally: usually you will be able to take off twice. I targeted two different bases on the first two runs and if was able to make a third run, I have chosen the 6 250kg bombs and dropped three on each damaged base.
Climbing so much is useless cuz Su-7's will steal your bases, better tactic is not climbing before you get to 1100km/h, then lightly climb trying not to drop below 1000km/h, drop bomb and return gliding or climb to the space out climbing everyone if someone starts chasing you
Using this tactic I grinded through part of russian rank V and whole rank VI and VII
This plane is great in Simulator battles where you are harder to spot, and at 8.3-9.3 BR range, this is probably the only supersonic plane, except for maybe the f11
Isnt the su7 supersonic?
@@oiermontero2310 i think so but if i recall correctly the su-7 isnt really meant to fly supersonic for extended periods of time, i could be wrong though
@@dosidicusgigas1376 matches dont last that long anyway. I actually have had good games, climb like a monkey, bomb a base and try and catch an unsuspecting a10 3km below you
@@oiermontero2310 and same country so not a worry
Su-7 is somehow 9.7
I like this series. Hopefully it stays and sticks around 😊
I know you don't play ground much but I think another thing you could mention in this type of video is how useful the plane is in CAS at various levels of upgrades. It seems like the big bomb could be useful in ground RB for clearing points and such, like a PE-8 that can get to the battlefield and RTB in a reasonable amount of time.
Huh? His name is literally Tankenstein and I see him playing ground battles all the time 😭
@@geck-2670 He has stated in previous videos that he prefers air and doesn't play ground nearly as much.
@@geck-2670 rulo? Xdd
Was wondering if it might actually be faster to grind something like this using it as CAS in ground battles.
@@johntc8840 nope
Nice a good idea and nice to see a stock vehicle played and then gradually get better performance, very nice to see this. But with these types of Planes/bombers at this BR no way to even bother trying to spade it in AirRB I would just rather do it in GroundRB cause you can get yourself more Xp from tank kills and have almost nothing to really bother you in the match well not nothing but not too much most matches that would be out there to knock ya out the sky. Gaijin REALLY NEEDS to fix the BR brackets decompress or whatever just anything where you have at least somewhat a chance.
The jet has cannon ccip btw, unless they removed it
I really like this series. I haven't seen anyone doing a stock grind series, if it is worth it to keep grinding, cause some vehicles are really bad at stock but they get pretty good fully developed.
Too bad the Yak28 sucks, I have it developed and bought, but I haven't used it.
Orangefan makes a series where he shows the first 10 games in each vehicle.
Orangefan gives you a very good taste of that. Including a "final thoughts".
But aircraft are quite rare on his channel.
I do fine with the Yak-28B. The only problem that I have with it is the fact that depending on the match or br, you can’t oneshot a base, but I know how to use the strengths of the plane to avoid dying and also get kills, even in proper dogfights. I beat a few F-5C’s in dogfights by making them bleed their speed and then rate-fighting and energy trapping them.
Glad you made this series, and a coincidence cuz I've just started using the yak-28b and just got the 250kg bombs
For the ballistic computer to work properly in the yak28, you gotta be on a 15 to 20 degree dive.
Why is it like that ? It’s so weird In the German arado I can drop bombs at any angle and get a perfect hit .but this I have to be level before dropping or it’ll be super inaccurate.
Please do a stock to spaded video for the mig 27 or mig 23. I want to know the most optimal way to spade them.
best way i foiund was bombing and ground units for mig-27 and ground and ai air targets for mig-23, aim for flares first then usal route of ammo, bomb/rockets then get the missiles(if missiles are at the end of the tech tree(if not get the missiles while grinding), then get G suits and then movement mods and then survival mods
I honestly think it could stand to be a little longer. Some information on which upgrades are immediate must haves, etc.
Love the new series! You should do the German g.91 R/3 next.
Regardless of performance this thing is ne of the coolest looking airplanes in the game.
Love my Yak-28B. Beautiful plane. Not the easiest to spade though, and the stock grind is painful. Eventually you'll get the big payload and the bases will fear you.
Man its the people like you that take time to make these videos on damn war thunder.
And as always have a good war thunder match.
really nice concept, love it
one of my favorite planes for looks
Keep up the good work tank, it is magnificent
I think you have a winner with this type of content. Well done old boy!
Finally a format that not only shows the planes spaded performance.
Great concept hope you do many more
Suuuper cool idea of video series! I like it. And also your videos were great to watch so far! Greetings feom Germany
thats what I call good timing, just got this thing 2 days ago
Loving it....Keep it up Tankenstein.
Not gonna lie to you. I wanted to start a War Thunder series also called "Stock to Spaded" a few months ago but never got around to it! But here we are!
I like this video, it puts non premiums in the spotlight, one idea for bombers like these, is how would they perform in ground rb? Those bombs could be alot more points against player tanks. Just a thought. Keep it up!
Love the series concept
We need the booze cruiser to fill the gap between this and the Mig 23
Looking forward to watching this series. Try the Jaguar. 10.3 and nothing but a gun to start.
Great video keep it up
how about the mig-21's next? for excample the Finnish one? ;)
Ps. love your vids keep it up!
hehe new series, more content.
Man this series sounds like voluntary torture
Catchy name on top of necessary and much wanted content? Marry me.
Hoping the yak 28B gets Fire extinguishers
While also transferring to being the plane that drops the nuke for Russia. As it makes more sense as is more fair.
this is really one of the br compression issues, its a fine plane for 9.3, but its not a 9.3, it might as well be a 10.3, almost a 80% uptier rate, it only fights 10 to 10.3 planes, faster, more maneuverable, missiles galore, similar issue to the maus.
great video as usual
Can you make a stock to spad with the f84f?
I like that series
G'day tankenstein, While an informative video for some yet for me it's seeing fresh eyes playing it.
Btw this bit is quick copy of a reply I made on reddit sometime ago with a few edits, () = edits.
Yes at high altitude it's able to make it's maximum speed but under 3000 metres you gotta fly at like 70% throttle so to not hit it's Vline and rip apart.
(originally the person was asking how it's speed was at high alt)
BTW get used to glide bombing as level bombing is inaccurate as all hell.
(from my experience level bombing never really worked as the high bombspread and rather inaccurate bombsight would often screw you over and flying at low alt is often a death sentence)
I've found gliding in a 40° decend helps an aim up the target an drop a few seconds before as the bomb it's has a delayed drop (with bombay doors open).
(these were what many on the forum talked about and even the wiki states to dive when making bombing runs to help the bomb to have a chance to hit)
My strategy is when taking off get to just below max speed to the left or right of the airfield then put it in a 30° incline (maybe less when stock) an climb while afterburning to reach an altitude of around 16000 metres then fly to a bombing point an processed to glide bomb dropping down to 10000-8000 metres to aim the bomb then turn around an RTB.
(My ARB strate which work around 60/40 % of times for glide bombing, Anyway that was more for 10.0 matches to be that high while 9.3/8.3 would see me up to 10 000 metres)
BTW it has no air brakes so get used to doing sharp turns to bleed speed before landing the landing gear speeds are under 540 kmph but it's parachute works now to so that'll slow you down.
(It used to have a bugged chute in that it would deploy at like 370kmph then disappear at around 280kmph but it was fixed some time ago)
My loadout usually is the FAB-1500 for points or FAB-250's for ground targets, I also use flares prioritised for CM & take air target belts for the few chances I get to fire the cannons.
(Imo I found that the FAB-1500 was better asif it hit you'd only need two trips and you weren't wasting tonnage with the FAB-3000 then needing FAB-500's to finish two bases.
I would take FAB-250's for low alt anti ground target runs but the increase of superior attackers makes this unfisable.
The FAB-3000 is only useful against large warships like the Forrestal class, Baltimore class and Pr.26 on some maps)
Unfortunately this aircraft cannot destroy a base on it's own but it can be a good grinder an gets a nice colour scheme.
(IMHO the quad camo is a nice skin then bare metal)
This is definitely a not meta aircraft an a hard one to master but hope that helps fellow Yakovlev Yak-28B Brewer pilot.
(If the FAB-3000 could destroy a base it be great but due to large bombs causing less shrapnel it ain't great with the only possible upgrade being either damage is change or we get the Tupolev Tu-22 Blinder-C for 9.7 as that aircraft would give the russian TT a great meta friendly bomber)
I often still fly this bird out an still fine joy in it as afterall why else would I fly 150 missions in it an heh only 22 deaths is quite an achievement imo lol.
I think this is also the plane that struck the strodzhovy
YAK-28B is the only planes that rips in levelled flight
Better suited in Ground RB with the chonk bomb
It kinda sucks if you can do much more to bases with strike aircraft rather than dedicated bomber.
Can you do a video on the M103
Would you trade that supersonic speed and your guns, for a better bomb load: Introducing the subsonic weaponless, flareless by default Buccaneer S.2 (can trade 2 bomb pilons for flares- none by default), easily think its worse than Yak-28B, and I main the thing
With custom loadouts you just take 1 flarepod and still destroy 2 bases
@@x_Degurechaff_x That is if you can get to a base before all the supersonic fighters get there with napalm/bombs, or other strike fighters or other bombers (which are all faster with the exception of the A10, as far as runway starts are concerned). Plus you need to be worried about being intercepted by fighters, or all aspect missiles. Taking a flare pod would be fine for the most part if the spotting wasn't so inconsistent, I've had matches where I was watching an AV-8A approach my from above and beyond from a solid 5km out but only actually spot it at .75km out. With that kind of dumb shit, good luck being fully aware of all the enemies and their missiles 360°. There's still the issue of you can rarely kill trailing fighters, because most of them you are slower than, less maneuverable, and bleed energy faster than, and if they overshoot you can't do anything anyway (trust me the AIM-9Bs are fucking useless if the person you are shooting at can still turn or at the very least pitch up).
TL:DR you can't fight back even with flare pods 90% of the time.
This thing is as manuvable as a bomber with two hair dryers strapped to it..oh wait thats the yak 28
B29 and Vickers P were the worst to grind for me. There are some truly painful vehicles to spade.
Would it be faster to grind a plane like this using it as CAS in ground battles?
do the mig27m or the mig27k for stock to spaded they are quite good for air rb and ground striking
He forgot that it’s an amazing cas plane
I was so disappointed when I got this plane because I’d been looking forward to it while grinding up the Russian bomber line, and it just ended up being really mediocre: it doesn’t help that I took it up to 12.0 to play with my friend either lol
the yak 28 is 100 times better stock than the vautour IIB spaded ... with the Yak making twice as much Sl as the Vautour
Have you announced the giveaway winners?
Do the f105
Helloooo tankenstein:) would be great if you could do the lightning f.6 next very interesting plane
the big problem with jet bombers are and always will be missiles, it is preferable to use an attack plane rather than a bomber in my opinion
This have flares...
Na missiles isn’t a issue on this thing, rather supersonic jets which can catch up to you. Example: f5, mig21, etc.
Would have been much cooler to see the interceptor variant with Bisnovat R-4
Over twenty minutes is fine as long as you pack it with statistics comparison and opinions not just gameplay
Can you do one on the T-80BVM?
Its passable (not really meta because its il28 but that can hit supersonic)
How do you get the green bombing reticle in realistic battles?
Hi Tankenstein are you announcing the giveaway winner today?
Would be also helpful when you mention what you spaded first and so on 😊
you do know what "spaded" means?
@@RyoTheTiger I know what it means. My point was what does he research first to make the grind bareable.
Please do the base me262 with this series. That thing is a nightmare stock
This would be good in CAS ground RB
Can you do the f4c next I about to get it
A4e let me introduce myself
What happened to your old clan VPO? Something happened?
i was thinking of grinding the yak 28... not any more🤷♂
Why it's 9.3 in realistic and 10.7 in arcade?
Tbh i just want to grind to this plane for its cool factor, thats all.
But this thing has speed, it's a huge advantage. I'd rather get fewer points while staying alive and not wasting sl repairing it
its ass for air RB but wouldn't it be fine for tank RB ? 🤔
I feel like this will just end up being "yeah its terrible stock" every time bc being stock is desgined to be terrible
It's terrible stock and slightly less terrible not stock
Do the F-104S ASA
Try the M48 if possible, people always whine about APCR.
I like the series, maybe bit shorter 😊 Please continue 👍
Yak-28B isn't interesting....not he Yak-28P is something else. It's the interceptor variant and it's a shame we don't have it yet in game.
I really wish it had access to napalm.
whatever pitty points they give me LMFAO ...... 🤣😂😁 But this bomber shouldn't be facing things like the A-10 with all aspect missiles. Either give this thing missiles or something or drop it down to like 8.0 or 8.3 or around there.
This plane could be good in ground RB.
Can u please check the mig 17 please
Don't call it a bomber if it cannot even kill one base.
this plane is absolutely beautiful.. a true display of soviet art
Is not worthy in my opinion, is expensive to repair and the large amount of XP it needs to get spaded is a pain in the ass
Btw great video, I would like a series of stock to spaded for some planes ;)
Whats your specs?
I grinded my entire soviet toptier air with a talisman in this plane ,
at tree top level you can only speed up to about 1100kph which isn't the full potential of your engines, so whenever someone chases you you start climbing with full afterburner such a way you don't bleed speed.
I remember once I earned 25k rp from just one game even after losing the match by making bombing sorties only. Rewards were much better back then.
Doesn't this plane have one of the biggest bombs in the game?
Vaotour can do 2 bases with one run.... i'm grineding like that 3 days
u just need to make a custo preset with 500kg and 360kg in centre... 3 360 and 2 500 is a base...
I like the longform video....this game requires longform explanation anyways Lol
All it needs is a load out buff what is gijin doing
The b57 gets external bombs so why not this? Just 2 fabb 1000s
Poor jet bombers.
yeah this thing is garbage. I was super hypted for a supersonic bomber, but you can't kill a base, any base, with it's loadout in one sortie... and it is WILDLY inaccurate when trying to precision bomb from altitude, even subsonic. it's only saving grace is (was) it's ability to go supersonic and stay at altitude. you were more likely to survive to make more than one bomb run... until we got loads of supersonic interceptors in it's BR range with good missiles.
Tankenstein what happened to the giveaway ? :) who won
Will pick winners within about 30 minutes
@@Tankenstein so who won the giveaway (obviously not me)
Now give it r60m and r27er