Yeah, I think that would qualify as abuse. In MA, oarents torture their autistic kids by sending them to conversion therapy or even having them electroshocked as punishment for their disability instead of giving them the accommodation and empathy they need.
I know right! Like that is literally torture. The fact that the children have to go through obstacles with bear traps, boards with nails, and barbed wire!?!? While blindfolded!? It’s absolutely insane and disgusting how they think that this is okay! And for fathers to actually put their sons through that is horrifying.
@@olg.__ "seems like it's safe" lmao the fuck kinda drugs are you taking? BEAR TRAPS? Also, talking about one issue in one place doesn't mean they don't care about something in another place? Like can you imagine coming onto this video like "OH MY GOD THIS SUCKS anyway did you hear abt those nature boot camps" like?? what are you on abt bro
Keeping people cold, miserable, hungry and sleepless while yelling insults at them and taking their money? Wooww... That definitely does not sound like brainwashing or psychological manipulation at all!
At least the actual military will tell you it sucks and isn’t gonna help you, this is just a bunch of people that didn’t make the cut so they thought they’d steal peoples money
I wonder what those men think they'll get out of it. They will still look the same, do the same job, the only thing that will be different is having 18k less and depending on their mental state additional trauma. If they couldn't get any women before this, they won't have any more luck after it.
Getting yelled at, called worthless, made to grovel, being deprived of sleep, and psychologically tortured? I don't need to pay 18k for that. I go through that 5 days a week and get paid a salary for it.
Them saying "flip the switch" is actually really fitting. Because when then turn ON the alpha mentality they also turn OFF every woman in a 100 mile radius.
See the false bravado and narcissism attracts certain types of girls who have daddy issues, the money keeps em around. Then their narcissism just fuels each other forever with Chris Brown/Amber Heard type toxicity all mixed in
You can tell I'm cheap when the first thing I thought was, you could definitely do this at home for free. If you want to lift heavy things, not sleep, and find a friend to yell obscenities at you... do it in the comfort of your own home! Don't pay these grifters to ruin your life, ruin it yourself!
@@meowbahhytmy guy, you’re giving her money by hate watching her. You realise we can all see you have 153 comments on this channel, and that one of them is positive (or you’re bad at sarcasm).
@minna2911 and the most recent one as of now is complaining about her having another hair colour......her hair is black in this video. yeesh these snowflakes get triggered at people having normal coloured hair now? life must be so easy for this to be their biggest complaint
@@minna2911literally so rent free, this is so insane lmao thank you for pointing this out. i cannot imagine commenting that many times on someone i clearly hate but am also clearly in love with
If you want to be miserable, cold, hot, hungry, no sleep, getting yelled at constantly, insulted and depending on chew and Monster to keep you up, join the military and the good thing is, they pay you to go through all of that misery.
Lmao holy shit imagine taking your son to this nightmare because you are too lazy to become his little league coach or take up a hobby with him. When I was a troubled teen my father started playing Halo to bond with me, it changed my life for the better.
No, see, your positive experience with your father is what the opposition wanted, it made you weak. If your dad loved you at all he would have paid $36,000 for some emotionally unstable tool bags to berate and insult you, he set you up for failure. You need to FLIP THE SWITCH
“No longer acts like a child” actually means “we’re going to traumatize your child so that they prematurely lose their childlike idealism and become cynical like the rest of us”
@@darkgardener9577I know this may sound like a bit of a personal question, but were you ever beaten up or angrily berated at by your parents because of little things growing up? Because if you were, it can warp your perception on what you think is just “growing up” and what is severe childhood trauma. If this is the case, I suggest you go to therapy before raising kids to not have the cycle of abuse happen again. Childhood trauma IS real and there are resources to help people with it if you are in need. There is no shame in talking to a psychologist.
@@darkgardener9577 Exercise and toucher isn’t the same, this is toucher. Also they don’t get enough sleep which is not a healthy structured schedule. Being yelled at constantly is also more degrading than you might think, especially for a teen who is still trying to figure out life. Being screamed at for a small mistake will make teens afraid to make mistakes, when mistakes are nearly nessicary for learning.
The process to becoming an alpha, a leader of the pack, a big bad boy who don't take no guff from betas, involving nothing but being insulted and following the orders of someone more intimidating than you is so hilariously ironic
@@plant3341they gon think they can act like the instructor after the course. Wonder how long it’ll take their wives (if they even got any 😅) to divorce them (or how long for their children to resent them). I give 2 months top 😂
100% this is training them to be submissive to male authority figures. Which makes sense given that the feudal knights were expected to lay down their lives for their lords and their expected function in life was enforcing another man’s power. Which is by definition NOT what an “alpha” does
@@letsdoodlesomethinghome3404 Nah, they're not getting children anytime soon, although, you can't rule out the possibility of a vulnerable woman sticking around because she honestly believes that that's what she deserves or wants until it's toxicly late.
Isn't life hard enough? Also, if your life is going that well - as in you can afford to squander $18K on the Walmart version of boot camp - why not focus on building new skills, improving relationships, etc. to prepare for future struggles? Why impose suffering on yourself? I don't want to say anyone asks for pain, but these dudes . . .
So couple things ... 1)Join the army and you can get paid $18000 a year for going through all the same crap 2) if the army rejects you thats a sign you need therapy, not boot camp 3) 'serial entrepreneur ' is definitely code for 'serially going out of business'
Interestingly, despite the fact that the program is *clearly* inspired by the military (or rather, what people who've seen Full Metal Jacket THINK the military is), AND Keuilian clearly styles himself off the military (his 'uniform' contains a blacked-out left-facing flag, etc.) his about me is pretty clear he never served: "They’re the only ones that can save you!’ I thought to myself, OK, I’ll go apply.” The military wouldn’t take him, but he set about to prove her wrong. He did. [...] When the military wouldn’t take him, “I knew I had no other path, so I took the path of physical fitness."
I was in the army and the drillmasters were such encouraging & respectful people, disappointing them caused me anxiety. We all felt like that, the female and male recruits. My own parents were totally useless and self righteous, I never respected them because they never gave me any reason. But in the army everything changed, I started to trust other human beings again and actually cared for their wellbeing. After the training most of us went back to uni for more degrees, but we are still in touch, I haven't spoken to my own 'parents' in decades and I couldn't be more happy about it. It doesn't matter what you do to heal your emotional wounds, therapy, motivational training, online meditation lessons ... at least you shouldn't end up a bigger dipsh*t than you already are, blaming total strangers for your trauma and your own shortcomings in life won't help you to outgrow your problems.
Men- Being abused isn't okay. It won't make you stronger and more of a man. Being shamed for existing and ignoring your body's needs won't make you tough, it'll make you traumatized and miserable
personally anyone willing to spend $18K on this shit is not very bright mentally so that’s on them i fear 🤷🏽♀️ i only feel bad for the kids in the situation
They’re too old to enlist. But even then it’s still counterproductive since military training serves the opposite purpose of what this scam is trying to sell. It’s not even close to what you experience in the military anyway. None if it makes sense, it’s like a Redditor’s fantasy CoD larp.
Personally the hover board got me most. He's holding speeches like anyone on the ground hears more than "...put your hands..." before he's too far away again
I was reminded of when I found out my head teacher had thrown a chair in a fit of anger at a having a bad job interview, was very hard to take her seriously after that. 😅 My dad was assistant head at another school and was on the interview panel when she applied for a job there. Her interview didn't go too well and as she walked through the car park on the way out she picked up and threw a chair that was being used to reserve a parking spot. Only reason my dad saw is cause he was on his way to the toilet and looked out the window, was a pretty good sign to him and the other interviewers that not hiring her was the right choice.
Real military drill sergeants don’t BULLY their recruits. They train them for war, and war by nature is chaotic. That’s why drill sergeants yell, and even then they don’t fucking insult your very existence.
@@marianafranco5508 multiple military branches accepts people up to 39 years old as of this year, except the army at 35 yrs old max, marines max at 28, and coast guard max at 31.
People forget that medieval knights were very eloquent and soft-spoken gentlemen. They were born from honored houses of nobility and we're often part of the small portion of the population who could read and write. This looks more like Spartan training than anything else
As a 15 y/o guy, this is honestly so disgusting to me. Not even mentioning stripping your child of the valuable struggles of being a teenager, it’s also just incredibly unhealthy to tell them to be a big macho guy while they’re just trying to get their first fucking kiss. I’m absolutely the type of guy to be strong and “manly”, hell I box for fun and go to the gym every day consistently, but I was blessed with an amazing father that taught me that while strength is important, you need to be kind, compassionate, and honest with yourself about your emotions. Because of that, I’ve noticed that compared to other men I know, I’m far more relaxed, confident, and understanding with others. Not everyone has a present father, so to waste your presence with your son on something as frankly childish and weak-minded as this, basically telling someone else to do the dirty work for you, that’s unforgivable imo.
Thank you for this comment, it was very refreshing to see! You're such a mature and empathetic person and the world definitely needs more people like you and your dad.
I felt bad enough that there are men who feel insecure enough to torture themselves to prove their masculinity but it felt so much worse learning they were abusing their sons. Edit: Also, thank you for the knight dance. That made it feel better.
I assure you men didn’t just shrug off the horrors of war. There’s a reason the Veterans of WW1 were called the lost generation and why Veterans of WW2 don’t often talk about their service. Band of Brothers is a TV show based on the writings of Captain Winters of Easy Company. It very clearly documents the mental effects of the War as they went through it and real life interviews at the start of the episodes with the men of Easy Company clearly show it’s lasting effects throughout their life. These things are traumatising and people who go through them shouldn’t be considered more Masculine for it. They should be recognised as victims and thanked for sacrificing their mental and physical health for their nation and then helped to recover.
@notrius7754 yeah but the general wasn't some random asshole who received dubious therapy and then turned it around and tortured other people. And you also say this like the military doesn't also actually torture and brainwash their own into thinking it's acceptable to kill fellow human beings. All veterans probably have some form of mental illness from the service they did. That's not proof of their masculinity. Violence is never a concept to use to amplify your own masculinity. There are so many other better ways to be a good man than to learn how to kill people and let yourself get brainwashed into becoming a tool of the military industry.
@notrius7754Men back then were fucked up tho, most war veterans are traumatised and have problems living a normal life. They went through worse things than what men do today but that doesn't mean they handled it well. Military camps made them physically stronger but also colder and more cruel which is good for war but not when you're trying to be a happy, social human being with a nice family. If men wanna become strong they should just try to go to the gym and maybe seek out help for their mental health.
@notrius7754 probably bc they weren't addicted to technology and even tho most of them were lowkey poor, it kinda was easier to get a home and get children back then. They had women to take care of the home and women were expected to have tons of children and couldn't and didn't really think they had another choice. So men kinda had more freetime after work. I think people have more problems socializing today. Men need to be social and I think most men find it hard to have a community. It was easier to get jobs back then and people usually shared similar interests. And it was more encouraged and normal to go out. I also think the fact that they went through so much hardship made then appreciate life more. I still think most of men back then had issues tho women too. Domestic violence was common, child abuse too, cheating, rape and violence too. You could argue that we still have it today and that it's more common but I think it's bc people speak out about it more now but atleast it's considered bad these days. Also I don't think most people believed in depression back then even today when I meet older people they think it doesn't exists even tho they show clear signs of being mentally unwell. But yeah I just think men today should find good communities and do that without having someone yell and bully them. There's good training camps that make you strong and happy and helps you create good friends out there without the ptsd.
@notrius7754 For one thing you have to consider the gradual recognition and acknowledgement of mental health. Simply looking at data could be misleading because only up until recent years has there been more recognition of mental health issues while previously a traumatized person may live their entire life without knowing they are traumatized. I don't know what to say about Politicians because I'm not American + I have a bias that all politicians regardless of leaning are people that cares the most abt their own profit no matter what age or time so xx. Plus I wouldn't really make the connection of having children=more happy and social lives. Generally speaking people only have more children per mother when there are high rates of infant mortality or higher rates of poverty (so kids could act as a labor force). And finally, I would never ever say going to war is a good thing. War has been extremely dramatized and sensationalized by modern media and it really hurts me when I hear people portray war as some heroic/honorable leap into martyrdom or whatever.
I’m mostly just surprised that two dozen grown men had $18,000 each and they chose this over therapy, a vacation, a gaming rig, a new vehicle, down payment for a house, investing, or a trainer in a gym, etc.
In my state, $18,000 is enough for a 9% downpayment on a $200,000 FHA home loan and is likely enough for all the closing costs of a $200,000 USDA home loan (which does not have a minimum downpayment requirement but does have closing costs). It's also WAY more than enough to buy a reliable used car for driving to work (so you can make money). If a "real man" is supposed to be financially responsible so they can provide for a family, these guys aren't "real men".
Crazy how they even have a program for small boys. Protect kids from the dangers of a colored flag, with the real life dangers of the homo erotic dom camp.
@@mlorpf I’m mocking the “alpha males”. Most of them are homophobic themselves and by suggesting that they get sexually frustrated when another man looks at them I’m calling them what they dislike.
7:48 You might quite possibly be the first person I've seen that doesn't laugh at men for needing to go to therapy and instead encourages them to in a genuine way. Props to you
“I did everything i could to turn my son into the man he should be, but now he hasn’t spoken to me in over a decade, I just don’t understand how the world could have turned him against me like this”
Which is funny, because at least here in Australia joining the military would be 100x better then this “program” you can get fitter and do actually good things without being tortured
@@ThePrinceofkindfulness joining the military anywhere would be more productive than this, this is absolutely just budget selection screening a thing units do to see how badly people want to be there before they begin long training programs it serves literally no other purpose beyond rejecting people who can’t take it there’s a reason instructors immediately drop the act after your actually into the learning portion. Therefore it achieves literally nothing for this group 😂 all you’d find out is after 2 days of fuck all sleep you can’t function and are out 18 grand... cool
@@meowbahhyt Your comments take away from your time, and you have been knee deep in this comment section. Stop acting obtuse just because you have nothing sensible to say. It's time to go outside
the fact that EVERY aspect of this man’s philosophy is IDENTICAL to jigsaw from the saw franchise is so funny to me. “rebirth through suffering…what some would consider torture i consider and opportunity” feel like DIRECT QUOTES from john kramer
Of course, alpha male are no different the those people who quote the matrix and talk about taking the blue and red pill as a philosophy. They definitely would take jigsam philosophy at heart
Some years ago, my girlfriend paid around $16,000 to go to a “finishing school” for women, in which she learned how to properly appraise and appreciate artwork, proper posture, and how to properly eat a banana (with a knife and fork, which she still does today). She refused to accept it when we told her that it was a scam, and said that she was “increasing her worth as a woman” despite being only 15-16 at the time. I can confirm that this “alpha male boot camp” is even more stupid than that. Even the finishing school taught somewhat useful skills. This is just some masculinity cult that practices psychological torture and hazing for profit under the guise of self improvement. I mean, from all of the b-roll, it genuinely looked like a Soviet labour camp.
proper posture is legit though. it's the difference between a graceful woman walking into a room turning heads and a sack of potatoes with neck and back issues.
Soviet labour camps at least produced something. Mining, refining resources, farming etc. This camp is just a bunch of dudebros rolling around in the mud.
I just wanna be in the timeline where the scientist who theorised the whole alpha wolf theory thing realised it was completely incorrect before it was popularised. He's worked over the years to inform how completely wrong he was, i feel bad for him tbh.
What's more ironic about that is that some that believe in that type of hierarchy that "There can be only one alpha", it's very hostile and Alpha Females can't Exist because no more than 1 can exist. There are other types similar in which Alpha Males and Alpha Females exist and tend to find one another, i.e Power Couples, and Several Power Couples supporting each other form larger packs / societies. The 1st type is similar to the Toxic "Worship-style" Relationship, in which one must be the Idol and the Other is a mindless obedient beta.
Honestly that’s a better universe bc all the sexy abo stuff can still exist in the bdsm AUs, while, oh wait no, toxic masculinity also wouldn’t go away if the terms went away, stuff like this will just be called “become a real man” camp or some shit instead
just a heads up: put slashes between the letters in a/b/o because some people have pointed out that without the slashes it is a slur for aboriginal people
this genuinely makes me so sad. how many young boys have been subjected to this abuse because their fathers think they need it somehow??? i cant imagine what those kids are going through
Those same boys are probably the one who comments "but guys have it harder then girls cause men can't cry" in every post and video about women r4p3 and abuse victim 💀
@@adrenalineactivateThat’s always been such a dumb propaganda talking point for misogynists. Women and girls get so much shit if they express any emotion other than reserved pleasantness. If women or girls are excited about something, they’re mocked. If they don’t laugh at something that’s not funny, they’re called rude. If they’re just existing, they’re told to smile. If they sound unhappy while articulating themselves, they’re told to calm down. If they’re angry (without being violent or aggressive), they’re called crazy. Men get to express a lot more emotion without people giving them shit. The biggest difference is the friend groups. Men and boys make fun of their friends for expressing emotions other than anger. Women and girls tend to be supportive and kind. If men and boys want more emotional support, then start giving more emotional support. It’s not rocket science; hell, I figured it out.
The fact that men are willingly paying thousands to put themselves through ACTUAL ABUSE just to feel “manly enough” is honestly very depressing. Putting children through that as well is absolutely vile.
I went on a survival course recently where I was probably the least experienced there, and the other older survivalist dudes coached me how to make a fire with sticks and shit, giving me encouragement and tips and stuff, and it was one of the best moments of my life. That was positive masculinity, how they didn't let me give up on myself and believed in me and recognised the difficulty and did what they could to guide me. This is not that.
@@FaridaElgendy-wv8nm SOrry, I badly phrased it. I meant the goobers that went to get yelled at for 72 hours paid for basically a torture, not this guy's experience. His is pretty wholesome.
Man: gets emotionally abused by his father -> gets away from his abusive father, overcomes his trauma and earns confidence -> now thinks the abuse was what made him confident -> becomes abusive Some men are living in a perpetual loop of stockholm syndrome
literally what happened between me and my own dad. he was severely abused by his parent when he was growing up, and tried to continue that cycle with me and siblings because he was convinced that it was good parenting and that not only did we deserve it, but that it would make us better in the end. my mom on the other hand was also abused by her father, but tried everything in her power to raise her children with kindness and not let the cycle continue to the next generation. she would always stand up for us and do whatever it took to protect us and make sure we were ok, and obviously dad didn't like that very much. i'm an adult now and i haven't spoken to my father in years, and honestly don't plan on changing that any time soon because from what i've heard he hasn't changed a bit. luckily my mom, all of my siblings, and i are doing great now; meanwhile dad is just as miserable as he was before and wonders why his kids don't speak to him.
@@negligible_realityIt always weirds me out that abusive parents are dumbfounded that their kids won’t speak to them. Truly, they seem baffled by all the reality of their abuse. Me (in family therapy): Well, that was when you gave me a bloody lip. My mother: What?! I-I did…that would…I’d have to hit you in the face to do that! Me: …you did. Man, I didn’t even want to talk about the child abuse during family therapy. I just wanted her to stop treating me like shit now that I was an adult. It took a couple of months but she finally stormed out of family therapy; we haven’t spoken since-it’s been years. But I’m genuinely glad to hear that your mom is awesome and you as well as your siblings are benefitting from your mom’s awesomeness :) I find other people’s healthy parent-child relationships to be really healing. It’s like an affirmation that parents can (and should) treat their kids like actual people who deserve dignity and respect.
@@negligible_reality I relate so much for the mom. Mine was different though. She would never stand up for me, because her abuse made her extremely passive to a fault. She wanted to avoid conflict at all costs, so she just ignored it and pretended everything was ok. But she was very kind and never wanted to be like her own mom.
Instead of teaching males to NOT be angry and aggressive, they are teaching the opposite. And they are choosing to do this, nobody is forcing them to spread this toxicity. "Men are their own worse enemies", uno reverso, ay?
I hate the fact that we romanticised the idea of buds and grueling special forces courses, they're genuinely meant to induce suffering and get the most tough men into a high highly skilled unit, and even then it's for a short time and you don't get many chances to recycle. I maybe overstepping here but I don't think most vets of tier one units would throw someone into the suck as their first self improvement solution
And don't forget the huge issue of SA within the US military. Not to mention all the war crimes they commit and have committed. And Chad mentioned "all of the instructors are " 'ex-military' and 'ex-cops'", so that just tells you what kind of people are in the US military and police force. Too many US Americans are delusional.
I went to military myself (Finnish Conscription so not really put ehh...) and there they especially focus on good atmosphere and everyone's well-being. Some lousy-ass reporter made a tweet where he complained how army is too soft and will produce "weak men" to which was replied by General Marshall (yes that guy uses Twitter) begging a question: Which one is more loyal? One who's been facing hazing or the one who's been treated with respect? That is a General I'm ready to hell and back with. Not like these egoistical assholes who get their kicks for bullying and hazing these men who just want to improve on themselves
@@lisaanimi I mean the Russians were apparently creating strong men then if that reporter's logic held true, yet I've seen the russian state almost collapse twice within the span of a year
Yeah that's absolutely ridiculous, like if u want to become a strong man that means well just go to the gym or you know join the military. Like wasting 18k on this dumb meaningless camp is absolute insanity to me. 😅😅😅
@@meowbahhyt oh wow, are you being serious? Because if so, that's really something. If you _are_ being serious: it's not really about the price, it's about what they're spending it on lol. An "alpha bootcamp" is worth negative money (meaning you'll almost certainly come out the other end worse off than when you started).
They're rich middle aged men who have completed the main missions in life. Now they're doing the side quest where they pay $18k to get screamed at by bro vet grifters in a parking lot.
The whole alpha beta thing is based off of wolves in captivity. It's a perfect allegory for these men. Dogs trapped in a mental prison of their own design.
@@sjsomething4936 eh, I mean I kinda get it. Maybe it's just cause I went to Catholic school and that shit kinda messes you up (not like that), but I can totally see how a lonely, insecure young guy might end up going down that path. I mean none of it _actually_ makes any sense, but I can see how it might make sense to someone in a more vulnerable headspace... hopefully that makes sense lol
@@idontwantahandlethough yea, cults don't target stupid people, they target lonely people, wich sucks, but you can't help someone who doesn't want you to. At the end of the day they signed an that's that. I'm more concerned for the kids here. There's no way of knowing if they actually wanted this shit, and probably not honestly.
Is the guy that came up with that a psychologist? I vaguely remember hearing a psychologist came up with it for the military with tests and the whole nine.
i literally wanna cry for those little boys just trying to exist in the world. this is literal child torture. why can’t our young boys just be taught that who they are and how they feel matters?
@@AlasadgFeelings are always there. If you don’t know what you’re feeling, the feeling will take the wheel. So it very much matters to know what it is you’re feeling if you want to come close to being rational.
@@AlasadgOkay… even if that was true, you can’t honestly be saying the solution is just to repress all feelings forever. Somehow that doesn’t exactly sound healthy.
"A father and son experience, that will be remembered forever." Yea... That's called trauma 💀 Edit: There are some bad fucking takes in the replies y'all. Don't even bother going down there, seriously.
@@vixxie_dust I mean I thought it was clear that I was joking. But yeah, I guess people do really think like that nowadays so it's becoming harder to tell the difference between a complete imbecile and someone like me who is just being sarcastic. The internet truly has broken people's brains... Sad times
Become "alpha" by _fully submitting_ to a more "alpha" man and paying him for the privilege. It's like the bully said "Give me your lunch money and you'll be like me one day."
that is why I call my friends betas, as they may one day become alphas like me and I'm just so kind and loving that I want the best for my STUPID UGLY BETA friends
That actually happened to a guy in my platoon in boot camp during the PFT 3 mile run portion dude had a hard time breathing and got sent to medical. Turned out he got sports induced asthma which I didn’t even know was a thing. I doubt any of these “instructors” know what that is
I once heard an ex-evangelical woman talk about her abusive father going to one of these "self-improvement" boot camps at the recommendation of their church leader. When he came back, he was no less abusive, but now he had the suffering he paid to go through at that camp as a new weapon to use against his children and wife. Whenever they would cry or get angry at him for how he treated them, he would pull out the vanity dog-tags that the boot camp gave him and yell that they didn't understand what pain was, none of them were going to belittle him or diminish him anymore because he had "been through too much", etc. It seemed that he had essentially purchased a traumatic experience to hold over his family members heads, to diminish their own suffering and fear of him. Maybe it's uncharitable, but I do wonder how many similar cases these camps create. These men are essentially paying to be screamed at, belittled, threatened with violence, and emotionally broken down by an authority figure, and are told that it is a positive character-building experience to be treated this way. How many of them then go home and become that authority figure to their families--who did not pay for the privilege, and can't leave?
Imagine seeing how Jesus treated women and children in the Bible with such love and respect and gentleness and walking away from that thinking power and dominance is God’s plan for men over their families.
@@boopdoop2251 Ooof.. you hit the nail on the head. This is what it's like in my religion too. The religious symbol-person is such a kind soul who treats family with gentleness and love. Meanwhile many men practicing my religion don't follow that example, and they just want to exert dominance because "that's how God wanted it to be". 😢
Tbf this is a very old (and dumb) idea that suffering is liked to gaining moral virtue. You find it it religious dogma (the purgatory for example). And related to the "alpha" online culture it's just another toxic ideal of masculinity. In reality : suffering is nearly always bad, sometime, suffering in the case of punishment can be useful and therefore good, but only as a way to dissuade to continue doing bad stuff, or as a way to learn the hard way (for examle, you trashed a wall, and you are forced to wash it back) If people really want to improve themselve : there are many sensible ways to do it, therapists & doctors can help fix issues, diet, sports/gym, finding a hobby, self-development lessons (about gaining confidence, being bettter organized), actually socializing with people, learning new skills. i mean, they would probably gain way more by doing anything esle, like joining a cooking club, buy a gym or public pool membership or litterally anything, anything would have a better impact on their life (either by increasing their mental health, their physical fitness, their social skills, their knowledge & practical skills, etc) than spending 18k on some macho scam.
@@hello-ii5lh what do u mean wait it's been mainstream since the 00s. "buy this ___, and u'll be the strong, independent girlboss u were always meant to be"
It's literally the mentality the US military has been working on breaking for the last 2 decades but vet bros like the dude in the video think it's just everyone else going soft so it hard to get them to understand
@@RiorozenHumans also develop by learning from the past, by not repeating those mistakes. By forcing someone to suffer because “I had to suffer back in my day!” you’re not helping the next generation, you’re just being spiteful. By this reasoning we still should die from starvation and cold in winter because by doing so the strong survives and the weak dies, nice.
literally the 1st thing i thought when they mentioned how much this damn thing costs. its GOT to be fetish, theres no other way anyone would wanna be here
My husband, (who's in the military, so he got paid to go through this shit, basically), is really dedicated to male mental health, especially for military men and other men who think that therapy is for "pussies." This shit makes me so sad because these men are disenfranchised and depressed. Men in the US are killing themselves in staggering numbers, and the rate of military men who kill themselves lead me to believe that boot-camp is not the cure. Based on what my husband saw in his peers, I bet it makes the suicidality much worse (though there isn't necessarily empirical evidence to suggest as much). Just. Ugh. This is so sad. Those men need and deserve real help. They're desperate. It breaks my heart.
Exactly. I don't why they thought it was a good idea to copy the structure of military training (except worse) when the biggest issue for military personnel are suicide and sexual harassment/assault.
My uncle forced me thru the squire program. I soon found out I was going to high school with the founders son. He was a year or two younger than me but I met him right around the “devious lick trend”. Let me tell you the amount of shit that kid bragged about stealing or breaking. Rich families are insane.
By coincidence, does he live in a Low Income Housing Enviroment designated under the government name "Section 8" ? Does he and a group of his allies control areas of this section to run his illigitimate buisness? Do they possess unregistered firearms? mind-altering inhibitors? and does he only use cash for financial transactions?
@@daveidk Translation: “Does he live in the hood and is apart of a gang?” I don’t think so, this guy mentioned that he’s rich so he’s probably not in the hood or apart of a gang also he mentioned that this was in like high school.
@@akiraeatsguitarpicks491 they're a troll. They have like, no exaggeration, almost 200 comments on her videos trying to get engagement. If you click on the replies to any other comment it's very likely they'll be there lol
doing this with willing but vulnerable adults is one thing, doing this with likely unwilling children is actually disgusting its crazy how much parents are allowed to get away with without it being legally child abuse
I'm a big dude 6'3 278 and I was very depressed I had two options either therapy or boot camp and I chose therapy. Now I'm about 256 working out regularly reading books regularly going out with friends talking and listening to them and I'm volunteering to teach kids soccer. It's not hard to be a role model. This bootcamp is exactly why therapy is always the best option.
Hey, I'm proud of you, dude, you did and are still doing a great job! If you ever backslide a little, don't lose hope, because now you know you have the ability to move forward, you've proved it to yourself and everyone else.
The difference between this and the military is that if you’re running, the instructor is running too, if you’re doing an obstacle course they’re right next to you the entire time, they might be yelling at you the entire time you’re doing it but it creates an idea that they aren’t there to torment you, they are training you and they want you to succeed
Not sure what military you went into, my experience was a bunch of failed, talentless nobodies who couldnt never succeed in the real world and now thought they had the right to push me around because of a little sticker on their shoulder
You can accomplish the same thing with an alarm clock and a miniscule amount of will-power. Being tough and able to deal with anything isnt something you can be taught, it must be learned through the blood and sweat of experience. Embrace the suck, ignore the pain, silence your ego, and carry on. Start small by solving problems yourself rather than asking/paying for help.
I was in something called Young Marine Academy. Kind of like military school. Very similar, I was yelled at and called names as a 10 year old by grown men in their 30s and 40s for not knowing the answers to questions and for making eye contact. They had a rule against eye contact with anyone of a higher rank than you. And they used physical training (PT) as punishment running, push-ups, etc, while being yelled at. I still have trouble maintaining eye contact as an adult. Thanks for the childhood trauma.
It’s basically a marine who never deployed taking out all his anger about how much he hates his life on a bunch of random people, and also he managed to rope his veteran friends into helping him do it. This dude is yelling because that all he wants to do there is more to training someone than just screaming at them 24/7, these guys are spending $18,000 and aren’t getting taught anything.
I’m not sure why we’re ragging on the instructor. Imagine if you could monetize your major malfunction. Mine would be a camp where you never see anyone but a single friendly cuddle cat or dog. It’s your dime. You make small, good meals for yourself and have no projects waiting or guilt for not being productive. Money please! The man is a genius… in need of intensive therapy.
Sorry to break it to you but if you willingly pay $18k to be treated like this for 75 hours straight you don’t want to “man up”… you just have a degradation kink
As someone who has actually been in the military and gone to boot camp, this reeks of the guys who say “I would have joined up and served my country, BUT…” and think this is what boot camp was like.
every single kids movie in the 90s had the protagonist being threatened with being sent to military school as like the worst thing that could happen and now the men who grew up on those movies can take their sons to do this
I’m a man going into the mental health field myself. This shit is honestly sickening. As you said in the video I think the reason lots of men are so scared to talk about their mental health is because of conditioning like this that tells us we’re all supposed to be hardcore macho men. Traumatic experiences like this aren’t making you a better person they’re just gonna make it harder for you to actually address your problems and the fact that they even do this to kids is just despicable. I hate that we live in an age where these types view emotion in males as “weakness” but hopefully I can do my part to make things marginally better
i'm a man as well, and indeed this shit is just horrifying, these types of people literally exploit and scam insecure men (meanwhile tons of them defend these scammers, what with Andrew Tate, Hamza and so on) as they ironically brainwash them with the idea of showing emotions as weakness meanwhile they brag about their material possessions
as a man i think a huge reasson men are scared to talk about their feelings is when men talk about their problems theres always a feminist to say men have no problems and that werre sexist infact i might get a reply like that here
@@jackoplumkin6412 it can but it’s almost always feminists you see attacking men, especially online. It’s not men that tell men their problems aren’t real, they tend to be supportive.
@@xysarenottheprize Sleep is for pussies who have been brainwashed by social media and the leftist agenda. True men stay up all night doing push-ups and go through the day with a water bottle with pure caffeine in it and raw meat.
I love the truck pulling clip, where you can clearly see the guy at the back of the line isn't doing any actual pulling, the rope is just sitting on his shoulder
I can see why this would appeal to people. I kinda got forced into doing something _slightly_ similar to this boot camp by my parents, and it’s true, making it through a bunch of tough experiences really does make the day to day struggles feel easier to deal with. But the main difference is that the “modern day knight” camp is built to make you ignore your suffering and squash down your emotions, when instead, the true way for tough experiences to be used to help you should be by giving you a feeling of “if I could get through that, I can get through this too!” In the camp I went through, the instructors were strict (and absolutely terrifying), but they never insulted anyone, they toned things down when they noticed anyone struggling, they never shamed anyone for lagging behind or saying no to things, and they congratulated and encouraged everyone after making it through the day. I’m a scrawny, underweight girl who doesn’t do any physical activity beyond picking up a pencil, but never once did the instructors EVER make me feel bad when I ran out of breath or fell behind. So, while that camp was torture for me and I would never do anything like that again in my life, now that it’s over, I can say that it had a genuinely positive impact on me and my self esteem! Because I did something I thought I wouldn’t be capable of, and I was encouraged to push through it until the end! Not pushed down by instructors on a power trip who intentionally try to make people quit, like the ones in this video specifically admitted was their goal. It’s bad enough for the men and especially the children who made it all the way through this video’s camp, but imagine how bad this is for the people who were broken down until they quit. All they’re left with is the feeling that all the degradation they received is true, the belief that they’re too weak to overcome challenges, and a massive hole in their wallets. This isn’t how things should be. I’m rambling a ton now, but what I was trying to say is that even if there’s some merit to the basic concept of this, the way it’s executed takes away all the good of it and causes only harm. If anyone is feeling tempted by this camp, go train for a marathon instead! Or go to the gym! Do some difficult feats where you can see visible improvement in your self so you can keep yourself encouraged. Being put down and screamed at and pointlessly tortured won’t ever do any good.
I love this comment! Thanks for sharing your experience! I’m also a small girl, not really underweight but I don’t weigh much. Also not so physically active. So it’s encouraging to hear that you were able to accomplish this and benefit from it! Good job.
Gotta agree, doing something like a marathon or tough mudder is similar for that feeling of having conquored something immense and having that experience build your self esteem. Most of those are also waaay cheaper to join. You could even do a zombie run if you wanna make it more fun.
Bro, you need real people to talk with... But also yes: Working out and overcoming obstacles makes people feel good and more confident. Shocking, truly.
I agree mostly, but some people thrive under negative reinforcement and not everyone thinks like you. The fact that your apparently a scrawny undersized girl after going through this camp probably shows that you couldve used less positivity 🤷♂️
People be forgetting that knights were soft as heck. Writing poetry, singing love songs - it was a huge theme in knighthood that actually, men are the ones in tune with their emotions.
Yeah... These are the same kind of dudes that throw a fit and claim it's a lie that Roman marble statues were painted bright colors. They portray Roman male culture as the "most alpha", when it was the gayest era ever.
@@TheybyBaby Boys were encouraged to have sex with their professors that's how gay it was. They were so hateful of woman in Rome they thought the most alpha thing was to penetrate another man be it battlefields or married. Like the manliest thing you could do was penetrate a guy.
Ok a few things, so I've been working on a huge project and ended up watching several of your videos over the past... couple of days now, I think. Not even on purpose, you're genuinely entertaining and it keeps me on track. That said, I LOVE the goofy bits you put into each video, but the knights at the end of this one has gotta be my favorite But second of all I was wondering if you were gonna clip in your cat (Mento?) pawing under the door, and lo and behold, you beat me to it You've gotta be my new favorite casual commentary youtuber out there, above any of the others I've seen, I wish you the best with future scripts :] and hey!! So close to 3mil subscribers, letsgo!!!!
To take your quote into real world context. So this bootcamp is where all the weebaboos go that want the military experience without joining the military. By paying $18k XD
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Nothing says "Alpha" to me like a man who lets another man yell at him and tell him what to do, and pays him 18k for the pleasure.
There's 2 words for that and it's gay masochism
I don't think so. It's despair
sounds kinky
@@PhaloigoreMore like gay findom 💀
Sounds like camp for men who look for a dom
I audibly gasped when Chad revealed that there’s a “kid’s version” of this camp. These people are sick in the head.
Yeah, I think that would qualify as abuse. In MA, oarents torture their autistic kids by sending them to conversion therapy or even having them electroshocked as punishment for their disability instead of giving them the accommodation and empathy they need.
I know right! Like that is literally torture. The fact that the children have to go through obstacles with bear traps, boards with nails, and barbed wire!?!? While blindfolded!? It’s absolutely insane and disgusting how they think that this is okay! And for fathers to actually put their sons through that is horrifying.
If you work for that and actually make kids go through that there’s an eight hell for you
@@olg.__ "seems like it's safe" lmao the fuck kinda drugs are you taking? BEAR TRAPS?
Also, talking about one issue in one place doesn't mean they don't care about something in another place? Like can you imagine coming onto this video like "OH MY GOD THIS SUCKS anyway did you hear abt those nature boot camps" like?? what are you on abt bro
Same
Keeping people cold, miserable, hungry and sleepless while yelling insults at them and taking their money? Wooww... That definitely does not sound like brainwashing or psychological manipulation at all!
Totally doesn't sound like some shit multiple cult leaders did to keep their followers loyal
At least the actual military will tell you it sucks and isn’t gonna help you, this is just a bunch of people that didn’t make the cut so they thought they’d steal peoples money
I wonder what those men think they'll get out of it. They will still look the same, do the same job, the only thing that will be different is having 18k less and depending on their mental state additional trauma. If they couldn't get any women before this, they won't have any more luck after it.
The only difference they'll have in life is that they're officially
Ahem* An alpha
Right??!?! I'm signing up TODAY!
Getting yelled at, called worthless, made to grovel, being deprived of sleep, and psychologically tortured? I don't need to pay 18k for that. I go through that 5 days a week and get paid a salary for it.
dawg where do you work 😭
@@lemin0uThe military, i think
@@lemin0u ong 🧍🏽
Sounds like retail.
Walmart?
@@lemin0u Guatemala trucking industry?
Them saying "flip the switch" is actually really fitting. Because when then turn ON the alpha mentality they also turn OFF every woman in a 100 mile radius.
Lmao true 😂
lmao, absolutely
Help- I'm cackling, you're not even wrong.
FLIP THE SWITCH
See the false bravado and narcissism attracts certain types of girls who have daddy issues, the money keeps em around. Then their narcissism just fuels each other forever with Chris Brown/Amber Heard type toxicity all mixed in
You can tell I'm cheap when the first thing I thought was, you could definitely do this at home for free. If you want to lift heavy things, not sleep, and find a friend to yell obscenities at you... do it in the comfort of your own home! Don't pay these grifters to ruin your life, ruin it yourself!
alternatively join the military, at least you get paid for this crap
Ironic considering Chad Chad is a grifter
youre not cheap for that no sane person would pay EIGHTEEN THOUSAND DOLLARS for this ?? thats like an entire years worth of minimume wage work brother
@@meowbahhytmy guy, you’re giving her money by hate watching her. You realise we can all see you have 153 comments on this channel, and that one of them is positive (or you’re bad at sarcasm).
@@Diphenhydraup to 160 comments now
"your mom hates you, your dad hates you, you hate you, i hate you" i felt that one
I was drinking water and snorted it out after I read this.
Yeah Chad Chad parents couldn't take the virtue signaling
@@meowbahhyt139 comments on this channel
@minna2911 and the most recent one as of now is complaining about her having another hair colour......her hair is black in this video. yeesh these snowflakes get triggered at people having normal coloured hair now? life must be so easy for this to be their biggest complaint
@@minna2911literally so rent free, this is so insane lmao thank you for pointing this out. i cannot imagine commenting that many times on someone i clearly hate but am also clearly in love with
If you want to be miserable, cold, hot, hungry, no sleep, getting yelled at constantly, insulted and depending on chew and Monster to keep you up, join the military and the good thing is, they pay you to go through all of that misery.
and with that money, you can then send your kid to this
and civs will thank you for service
And boot camp is a very miniscule portion of training.
Lmao holy shit imagine taking your son to this nightmare because you are too lazy to become his little league coach or take up a hobby with him. When I was a troubled teen my father started playing Halo to bond with me, it changed my life for the better.
That’s so wholesome, I love it.
Thats so lovely, truly
I have memories of my dad in the back of the Warthog shooting while I drove in the final mission of Halo 3, such good memories
No, see, your positive experience with your father is what the opposition wanted, it made you weak. If your dad loved you at all he would have paid $36,000 for some emotionally unstable tool bags to berate and insult you, he set you up for failure. You need to FLIP THE SWITCH
@BabyLion203 Please tell me you're joking -_- I do not want to start an argument with alpha-do fet-douche-ine.
“No longer acts like a child” actually means “we’re going to traumatize your child so that they prematurely lose their childlike idealism and become cynical like the rest of us”
Mini me from star trek
Why would you have a child if you didn't want them to act childish...
@@darkgardener9577 Exposing children to this stuff is gonna get them trauma
@@darkgardener9577I know this may sound like a bit of a personal question, but were you ever beaten up or angrily berated at by your parents because of little things growing up? Because if you were, it can warp your perception on what you think is just “growing up” and what is severe childhood trauma. If this is the case, I suggest you go to therapy before raising kids to not have the cycle of abuse happen again.
Childhood trauma IS real and there are resources to help people with it if you are in need. There is no shame in talking to a psychologist.
@@darkgardener9577 Exercise and toucher isn’t the same, this is toucher. Also they don’t get enough sleep which is not a healthy structured schedule. Being yelled at constantly is also more degrading than you might think, especially for a teen who is still trying to figure out life. Being screamed at for a small mistake will make teens afraid to make mistakes, when mistakes are nearly nessicary for learning.
The process to becoming an alpha, a leader of the pack, a big bad boy who don't take no guff from betas, involving nothing but being insulted and following the orders of someone more intimidating than you is so hilariously ironic
To become the dom, you must first become the dommed
@plant3341 - Christian grey
@@plant3341they gon think they can act like the instructor after the course. Wonder how long it’ll take their wives (if they even got any 😅) to divorce them (or how long for their children to resent them). I give 2 months top 😂
100% this is training them to be submissive to male authority figures.
Which makes sense given that the feudal knights were expected to lay down their lives for their lords and their expected function in life was enforcing another man’s power.
Which is by definition NOT what an “alpha” does
@@letsdoodlesomethinghome3404 Nah, they're not getting children anytime soon, although, you can't rule out the possibility of a vulnerable woman sticking around because she honestly believes that that's what she deserves or wants until it's toxicly late.
Imagine being so privileged that you have to create a Suffering LARP Camp to expereince enough adversity to think you had character growth
Absolutely fucking brilliant comment, I am stealing that definition, thank you.
Yeah exactly. Life is already brutal enough....for the not so privileged.
Isn't life hard enough? Also, if your life is going that well - as in you can afford to squander $18K on the Walmart version of boot camp - why not focus on building new skills, improving relationships, etc. to prepare for future struggles? Why impose suffering on yourself? I don't want to say anyone asks for pain, but these dudes . . .
So couple things ...
1)Join the army and you can get paid $18000 a year for going through all the same crap
2) if the army rejects you thats a sign you need therapy, not boot camp
3) 'serial entrepreneur ' is definitely code for 'serially going out of business'
"serial entrepreneur" almost made me spit out my room-temp rosé
It's the classic business school example of, "This guy started 100 businesses before 1 finally turned a profit! You should be like him!"
Interestingly, despite the fact that the program is *clearly* inspired by the military (or rather, what people who've seen Full Metal Jacket THINK the military is), AND Keuilian clearly styles himself off the military (his 'uniform' contains a blacked-out left-facing flag, etc.) his about me is pretty clear he never served: "They’re the only ones that can save you!’ I thought to myself, OK, I’ll go apply.” The military wouldn’t take him, but he set about to prove her wrong. He did. [...] When the military wouldn’t take him, “I knew I had no other path, so I took the path of physical fitness."
@@clarerichardson8770 Ugh, room-temp rosé is so hard on my tummy!
At least the Army teaches discipline, self worth, team work and a trade. He just seems to insult and make you crawl in the mud.
Imagine paying $18,000 for someone to make your insecurities worse and then torture you because of a buzzword.
That's why I agreed with the guy when he screamed: "You've got to be the dumbest m*f*s I've ever met"
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@@WidarsHallStop, don't call them that for free.
Well, I think the 'army experience' is good for some people. I don't see why you would pay $18,000 for it though.
@@peterwallis4288Good for some people? Maybe. Better than therapy? Probably not.
These men are so scared of admiting they have a humiliation kink. Inventive marketing really is everything.
They definitely don't like getting down on the ground and being wet all over their body.
Chad Chad is far worse so eh
Thank you! I thought I was the only one who noticed
Legit my thought was just "man this is super awful and really perpetuates harmful stereotypes, if they're into it though then that's cool"
Thats not what it is idiot
I was in the army and the drillmasters were such encouraging & respectful people, disappointing them caused me anxiety.
We all felt like that, the female and male recruits.
My own parents were totally useless and self righteous, I never respected them because they never gave me any reason.
But in the army everything changed, I started to trust other human beings again and actually cared for their wellbeing.
After the training most of us went back to uni for more degrees, but we are still in touch, I haven't spoken to my own 'parents' in decades and I couldn't be more happy about it.
It doesn't matter what you do to heal your emotional wounds, therapy, motivational training, online meditation lessons ... at least you shouldn't end up a bigger dipsh*t than you already are, blaming total strangers for your trauma and your own shortcomings in life won't help you to outgrow your problems.
The blood of battle is thicker than water of the womb.
Your parents are the reason you exist. Could be a little more grateful.
@@wisadell i dont think he asked them
@@wisadell maybe if his parents were more respectful, he'd be more grateful to them
@@wisadellyour parents are the reason why you exist and honestly I couldn't be any less ungrateful about it
paying for a degredation kink is a whole nother level of that kink
i mean, the payment itself isnt all that odd but why not just go to a dominatrix???
@@EM-zc8uibecause the dominatrix will ask for a LOT of money if you ask her to cosplay as your dad
@@EM-zc8uibut this way you can be degraded in front of a group of strangers, even better! 😏
@@oranges7706a dominatrix can do that too
@@EM-zc8ui Given that most of these dudes believe that being dominant is peak masculinity, it wouldn't do for them to willingly 'give it up'
Men-
Being abused isn't okay. It won't make you stronger and more of a man. Being shamed for existing and ignoring your body's needs won't make you tough, it'll make you traumatized and miserable
Something a beta would say
@@boredagain1 betas and alphas arent a real thing anyway its been completely disproved by the scientist who originally brought up the theory.
Better than the things Chad Chad says
@@FocusedFighter777Give more credit to monkeys, man. Even they are smarter than the ‘alpha, beta, sigma!’ guys.
personally anyone willing to spend $18K on this shit is not very bright mentally so that’s on them i fear 🤷🏽♀️ i only feel bad for the kids in the situation
Chad screaming at a clone of herself to do push-ups and then immediately jumping into the intro is very on character
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So military can pay them to go through all this misery... And they decide to pay for this to some random yelling dudes on skateboards INSTEAD.
They’re too old to enlist. But even then it’s still counterproductive since military training serves the opposite purpose of what this scam is trying to sell. It’s not even close to what you experience in the military anyway. None if it makes sense, it’s like a Redditor’s fantasy CoD larp.
"no longer acts like a child"
reminds me of
"you're mature for your age"
"thanks, it's the trauma"
Indeed.
@stopsin1Can u at least stop violating our eyes' rights by not spamming? 💀
Nah it isn’t trauma for me. It’s autism
@@aghost7721 sorry…😅
@@IvysWhackedWonderland same-
The instructor roasting tf out of the men while he rolls past them on a hoverboard is peak unintentional comedy 💀💀💀
It looks like something straight out of a parody of the military
With a cigar in his mouth like a character from a Stephen Segal movie
It's intentional comedy
You cant imgaine how deeply funny it is, to see military guys roasting others for divorces...that had me rolling on the floor. xD xD
It looks like a scene from the office
The flipping of the tables and chairs is hilarious to me. He thinks he's being intimidating but he just looks like a toddler throwing a tantrum 😂
"Manly masculine males flip tables!!" Lol. They are all so pathetic. The dumb instructors and the participants who paid to be there.
Personally the hover board got me most. He's holding speeches like anyone on the ground hears more than "...put your hands..." before he's too far away again
Literally, bro is giving Jake Paul vibes
I was reminded of when I found out my head teacher had thrown a chair in a fit of anger at a having a bad job interview, was very hard to take her seriously after that. 😅
My dad was assistant head at another school and was on the interview panel when she applied for a job there. Her interview didn't go too well and as she walked through the car park on the way out she picked up and threw a chair that was being used to reserve a parking spot. Only reason my dad saw is cause he was on his way to the toilet and looked out the window, was a pretty good sign to him and the other interviewers that not hiring her was the right choice.
Chad Chad seems jealous they want to be there
Real military drill sergeants don’t BULLY their recruits. They train them for war, and war by nature is chaotic. That’s why drill sergeants yell, and even then they don’t fucking insult your very existence.
Paying 18k for like 1% of boot camp when you could go to the military and get paid 18k for 100% of the experience is crazy imo
@@starryfox3366and requires vAcInAtIoNs oooooooh
The people in the video seem a bit old to enlist
@@marianafranco5508I had 30 year olds in my basic training.
@@marianafranco5508 multiple military branches accepts people up to 39 years old as of this year, except the army at 35 yrs old max, marines max at 28, and coast guard max at 31.
@@marianafranco5508 and honestly hard to tell the ages of these guys when many of them are covered in mud much of the video
People forget that medieval knights were very eloquent and soft-spoken gentlemen. They were born from honored houses of nobility and we're often part of the small portion of the population who could read and write. This looks more like Spartan training than anything else
Some knights were honorable and joined to protect others, but a lot of them were very similar to the types of people who become cops.
Incorrect, the Spartans had way more gay sex
@bladdyboi2962
Is that why they were always yelling "THIS IS SPARTA!!"
@@bladdyboi2962suddenly... I want to be a Spartan...
@bladdyboi2962 and you think the guys in this video weren't doing the same?
Alternative name for the children camp "how to make your son want to never talk to you ever and feel like a freak if he feels any kind of emotion"
yeah that shit is some type of child abuse, but they signed a wavier so I guess anything goes
"How to Break Your Child, FAST!"
welcome to the childhood trauma camp we’re gonna beat the shit out of you both mentally and physically but it is a good thing
Yup, for some reason, conservatives just love torturing children.
Nah Chad Chad videos would make someone want to distance
Alpha: "Learn to control your emotions"
Also Alpha: Continues having out of control emotional responses to being looked at wrongly
By controlling emotions they mean being unemotional. And that's awfull
As a 15 y/o guy, this is honestly so disgusting to me. Not even mentioning stripping your child of the valuable struggles of being a teenager, it’s also just incredibly unhealthy to tell them to be a big macho guy while they’re just trying to get their first fucking kiss.
I’m absolutely the type of guy to be strong and “manly”, hell I box for fun and go to the gym every day consistently, but I was blessed with an amazing father that taught me that while strength is important, you need to be kind, compassionate, and honest with yourself about your emotions. Because of that, I’ve noticed that compared to other men I know, I’m far more relaxed, confident, and understanding with others. Not everyone has a present father, so to waste your presence with your son on something as frankly childish and weak-minded as this, basically telling someone else to do the dirty work for you, that’s unforgivable imo.
Be sure to hug your dad. He's made sure that you are and will be a wonderful man. Congratulations to you both ❤️
Thank you for this comment, it was very refreshing to see! You're such a mature and empathetic person and the world definitely needs more people like you and your dad.
Chad Chad videos teach a worse lesson one punch man pfp
You sound like a nice person, keep it up :))
the most based fucking comment
I felt bad enough that there are men who feel insecure enough to torture themselves to prove their masculinity but it felt so much worse learning they were abusing their sons.
Edit: Also, thank you for the knight dance. That made it feel better.
I assure you men didn’t just shrug off the horrors of war. There’s a reason the Veterans of WW1 were called the lost generation and why Veterans of WW2 don’t often talk about their service.
Band of Brothers is a TV show based on the writings of Captain Winters of Easy Company. It very clearly documents the mental effects of the War as they went through it and real life interviews at the start of the episodes with the men of Easy Company clearly show it’s lasting effects throughout their life.
These things are traumatising and people who go through them shouldn’t be considered more Masculine for it. They should be recognised as victims and thanked for sacrificing their mental and physical health for their nation and then helped to recover.
@notrius7754 yeah but the general wasn't some random asshole who received dubious therapy and then turned it around and tortured other people. And you also say this like the military doesn't also actually torture and brainwash their own into thinking it's acceptable to kill fellow human beings. All veterans probably have some form of mental illness from the service they did. That's not proof of their masculinity. Violence is never a concept to use to amplify your own masculinity. There are so many other better ways to be a good man than to learn how to kill people and let yourself get brainwashed into becoming a tool of the military industry.
@notrius7754Men back then were fucked up tho, most war veterans are traumatised and have problems living a normal life. They went through worse things than what men do today but that doesn't mean they handled it well. Military camps made them physically stronger but also colder and more cruel which is good for war but not when you're trying to be a happy, social human being with a nice family. If men wanna become strong they should just try to go to the gym and maybe seek out help for their mental health.
@notrius7754 probably bc they weren't addicted to technology and even tho most of them were lowkey poor, it kinda was easier to get a home and get children back then. They had women to take care of the home and women were expected to have tons of children and couldn't and didn't really think they had another choice. So men kinda had more freetime after work. I think people have more problems socializing today. Men need to be social and I think most men find it hard to have a community. It was easier to get jobs back then and people usually shared similar interests. And it was more encouraged and normal to go out. I also think the fact that they went through so much hardship made then appreciate life more. I still think most of men back then had issues tho women too. Domestic violence was common, child abuse too, cheating, rape and violence too. You could argue that we still have it today and that it's more common but I think it's bc people speak out about it more now but atleast it's considered bad these days. Also I don't think most people believed in depression back then even today when I meet older people they think it doesn't exists even tho they show clear signs of being mentally unwell. But yeah I just think men today should find good communities and do that without having someone yell and bully them. There's good training camps that make you strong and happy and helps you create good friends out there without the ptsd.
@notrius7754 For one thing you have to consider the gradual recognition and acknowledgement of mental health. Simply looking at data could be misleading because only up until recent years has there been more recognition of mental health issues while previously a traumatized person may live their entire life without knowing they are traumatized. I don't know what to say about Politicians because I'm not American + I have a bias that all politicians regardless of leaning are people that cares the most abt their own profit no matter what age or time so xx.
Plus I wouldn't really make the connection of having children=more happy and social lives. Generally speaking people only have more children per mother when there are high rates of infant mortality or higher rates of poverty (so kids could act as a labor force).
And finally, I would never ever say going to war is a good thing. War has been extremely dramatized and sensationalized by modern media and it really hurts me when I hear people portray war as some heroic/honorable leap into martyrdom or whatever.
As someone who has trauma from being yelled at like this by his father, I can't fathom paying any amount of money for something like this
I'm so sorry man, my dad used to tell me to crawl in the mud and do pushups too. I don't think I'll ever emotionally recover
im so sorry for you, I also have been yelled at by my father, including my mother. I hope you cope soon:)
It sucks so much. Dont worry, youre not alone. And it does help when you talk about it with friends or if you can afford it, therapy
How the fuck do you get trauma from some noise 😂😂
This comment section is funny your father did it for a reason lol meow 😺Not gonna explain your actions beforehand?
“A father son experience that will be remembered… in therapy.”
I can't imagine them doing this to children. This is litrally child abuse. I hope they get investigated.
Dudes will spend 18000 dollars to become an alpha male than taking therapy.
They already have youth courses
So you are against boot camp in the military?
YES. THAT'S RIGHT. You got it. You are correct.
@@tacwolf4962🍎Apples =/= Oranges🍊 my guy.
I’m mostly just surprised that two dozen grown men had $18,000 each and they chose this over therapy, a vacation, a gaming rig, a new vehicle, down payment for a house, investing, or a trainer in a gym, etc.
In my state, $18,000 is enough for a 9% downpayment on a $200,000 FHA home loan and is likely enough for all the closing costs of a $200,000 USDA home loan (which does not have a minimum downpayment requirement but does have closing costs). It's also WAY more than enough to buy a reliable used car for driving to work (so you can make money). If a "real man" is supposed to be financially responsible so they can provide for a family, these guys aren't "real men".
@@angygremlin4423 Maybe the idea of this camp is for them to realize that they just wasted $18,000 thus become real men who value money? :P
Yo you really put this in perspective. You could buy have a luxury car with that. That’s wild bro
if they have all that money to spent in something so stupid they could do something usefull and donate to charity instead
@@joelman1989 yes its possible. caddys are luxurious and can be bought with that money
Nothing screams alpha male like getting sexually frustrated when another man looks into your eyes.
Hmm…
wait what? im just looking through and if i hear that im going to burst out laughing
Crazy how they even have a program for small boys.
Protect kids from the dangers of a colored flag, with the real life dangers of the homo erotic dom camp.
this reads pretty homophobic to me, but I'm sure that's not your intention. it sounds like you're saying gay men are inherently less masculine
@@mlorpf I’m mocking the “alpha males”. Most of them are homophobic themselves and by suggesting that they get sexually frustrated when another man looks at them I’m calling them what they dislike.
7:48 You might quite possibly be the first person I've seen that doesn't laugh at men for needing to go to therapy and instead encourages them to in a genuine way. Props to you
Thats sad its the only person you seen, trust me so so many people think the same as her
obsessed with the knights doing laundry and eating ice cream they're such a vibe
I wanna watch a whole reality show of them :D
@@klaythoring1326 i wanna write that show
@@flamboyantroachI would pay to have a good show like this
Chad Chad should better her editing skills
@@meowbahhyttroll bot
“I did everything i could to turn my son into the man he should be, but now he hasn’t spoken to me in over a decade, I just don’t understand how the world could have turned him against me like this”
Sounds like both the dad and son are trash.
The father is right not Chad Chad
@@meowbahhyt The "father" is a fucking DORK. 😂😂😂
@@meowbahhyt232 comments on this channel? Why are you so obsessed with her lmao
@@meowbahhyt weirdo
“I would have joined the military but I’d have punched a drill instructor” is the most commonly heard sentence in that whole place
Which is funny, because at least here in Australia joining the military would be 100x better then this “program” you can get fitter and do actually good things without being tortured
Chad chad videos are taking your time and that is money
@@ThePrinceofkindfulness joining the military anywhere would be more productive than this, this is absolutely just budget selection screening a thing units do to see how badly people want to be there before they begin long training programs it serves literally no other purpose beyond rejecting people who can’t take it there’s a reason instructors immediately drop the act after your actually into the learning portion. Therefore it achieves literally nothing for this group 😂 all you’d find out is after 2 days of fuck all sleep you can’t function and are out 18 grand... cool
@@meowbahhyt ChadChad deserves my time and money.
@@meowbahhyt Your comments take away from your time, and you have been knee deep in this comment section. Stop acting obtuse just because you have nothing sensible to say. It's time to go outside
11:28 Little kitty paws under the door. LOL My kitty likes to play the "under the door" game too.
Had a main coon that loved to do the arm wrestle under the door. That boy was a linebacker
i looked for this comment.
the fact that EVERY aspect of this man’s philosophy is IDENTICAL to jigsaw from the saw franchise is so funny to me. “rebirth through suffering…what some would consider torture i consider and opportunity” feel like DIRECT QUOTES from john kramer
The facts all of Chad Chad videos are reaction
Of course, alpha male are no different the those people who quote the matrix and talk about taking the blue and red pill as a philosophy. They definitely would take jigsam philosophy at heart
@@meowbahhytwhy are you here and why did you comment over a hundred times
Not to mention "masculinity" to him is throwing toddler tantrums and being too lazy to walk 🤣
@@liamsteamwalsh8421 ik it's a philosophy, just saying it's a shitty philosophy base on a movie that isn't even base real event
I’m going to cry at the fact that they made a version for children.
Nah but I am at the fact Chad Chad videos won't be on my recommendation in year 2100
Wouldn’t that be child abuse….?
@@vikaa6969 Yes.
@@meowbahhyt lol what
@@meowbahhythow old are you if youre going to be alive in 2100 lol
Some years ago, my girlfriend paid around $16,000 to go to a “finishing school” for women, in which she learned how to properly appraise and appreciate artwork, proper posture, and how to properly eat a banana (with a knife and fork, which she still does today). She refused to accept it when we told her that it was a scam, and said that she was “increasing her worth as a woman” despite being only 15-16 at the time.
I can confirm that this “alpha male boot camp” is even more stupid than that. Even the finishing school taught somewhat useful skills. This is just some masculinity cult that practices psychological torture and hazing for profit under the guise of self improvement. I mean, from all of the b-roll, it genuinely looked like a Soviet labour camp.
No soviet died a virgin.
proper posture is legit though. it's the difference between a graceful woman walking into a room turning heads and a sack of potatoes with neck and back issues.
@@الوكيفك-ك7مnow think why...
Soviet labour camps at least produced something. Mining, refining resources, farming etc. This camp is just a bunch of dudebros rolling around in the mud.
@@Sam-es2gfi dont think it’s worth paying 16000$ bud
2:13 they could've just enlisted in the army and be paid to do that instead of paying
And, they would actually learn something
it’s literally playing army except instead of a Drill Sergeant you get some dick named daniel
I just wanna be in the timeline where the scientist who theorised the whole alpha wolf theory thing realised it was completely incorrect before it was popularised. He's worked over the years to inform how completely wrong he was, i feel bad for him tbh.
I feel like a joke about A/B/O existing being a canon event would be appropriate but idk how to formulate that.
What's more ironic about that is that some that believe in that type of hierarchy that "There can be only one alpha", it's very hostile and Alpha Females can't Exist because no more than 1 can exist. There are other types similar in which Alpha Males and Alpha Females exist and tend to find one another, i.e Power Couples, and Several Power Couples supporting each other form larger packs / societies. The 1st type is similar to the Toxic "Worship-style" Relationship, in which one must be the Idol and the Other is a mindless obedient beta.
Honestly that’s a better universe bc all the sexy abo stuff can still exist in the bdsm AUs, while, oh wait no, toxic masculinity also wouldn’t go away if the terms went away, stuff like this will just be called “become a real man” camp or some shit instead
@@justine4581 it's fanon
just a heads up: put slashes between the letters in a/b/o because some people have pointed out that without the slashes it is a slur for aboriginal people
the real alphas were the friends we made along the way
And they lived happily ever alpha
How is Happily Ever Alpha not a self published romance book yet
@@ic5889it should be
Chad Chad was the cringe along the way 😺
@@meowbahhyt says the cringebah fan
this genuinely makes me so sad. how many young boys have been subjected to this abuse because their fathers think they need it somehow??? i cant imagine what those kids are going through
Those same boys are probably the one who comments "but guys have it harder then girls cause men can't cry" in every post and video about women r4p3 and abuse victim 💀
@@adrenalineactivate or one of those people who claims that women lose their validity once they ride the "cock carousel"
@@adrenalineactivateThat’s always been such a dumb propaganda talking point for misogynists. Women and girls get so much shit if they express any emotion other than reserved pleasantness.
If women or girls are excited about something, they’re mocked. If they don’t laugh at something that’s not funny, they’re called rude. If they’re just existing, they’re told to smile. If they sound unhappy while articulating themselves, they’re told to calm down. If they’re angry (without being violent or aggressive), they’re called crazy.
Men get to express a lot more emotion without people giving them shit. The biggest difference is the friend groups. Men and boys make fun of their friends for expressing emotions other than anger. Women and girls tend to be supportive and kind. If men and boys want more emotional support, then start giving more emotional support. It’s not rocket science; hell, I figured it out.
Thinking of this the whole video and just almost crying
right this feels like a human rights violation
Serial entrepreneur is usually the polite term for serial scammer or "he fails at everything he does"
The fact that men are willingly paying thousands to put themselves through ACTUAL ABUSE just to feel “manly enough” is honestly very depressing. Putting children through that as well is absolutely vile.
I'm bouta get 18000 to go there so I can sue. Work smarter not harder
@@Freakyminosprime Sue for what?
trama@@1776Jan
They can challenge themselves by going outside and doing something and still keep your $18,000.
@@rangerchief8004 fr go camping in the woods like damm
I went on a survival course recently where I was probably the least experienced there, and the other older survivalist dudes coached me how to make a fire with sticks and shit, giving me encouragement and tips and stuff, and it was one of the best moments of my life. That was positive masculinity, how they didn't let me give up on myself and believed in me and recognised the difficulty and did what they could to guide me. This is not that.
Nah, this is torture. You are paying to be tortured.
that sounds like a lot of fun! I'm glad you're experience was beneficial.
how though 💀@@Tacoguy1000
@@Tacoguy1000
At least he learned a useful skill and how to survive in a worst case scenario.
@@FaridaElgendy-wv8nm SOrry, I badly phrased it. I meant the goobers that went to get yelled at for 72 hours paid for basically a torture, not this guy's experience. His is pretty wholesome.
Man: gets emotionally abused by his father -> gets away from his abusive father, overcomes his trauma and earns confidence -> now thinks the abuse was what made him confident -> becomes abusive
Some men are living in a perpetual loop of stockholm syndrome
That’s patriarchy for you. It teaches men that cutting out their emotions and abusing others is the only way to true happiness. Such a bullshit system
literally what happened between me and my own dad. he was severely abused by his parent when he was growing up, and tried to continue that cycle with me and siblings because he was convinced that it was good parenting and that not only did we deserve it, but that it would make us better in the end. my mom on the other hand was also abused by her father, but tried everything in her power to raise her children with kindness and not let the cycle continue to the next generation. she would always stand up for us and do whatever it took to protect us and make sure we were ok, and obviously dad didn't like that very much. i'm an adult now and i haven't spoken to my father in years, and honestly don't plan on changing that any time soon because from what i've heard he hasn't changed a bit. luckily my mom, all of my siblings, and i are doing great now; meanwhile dad is just as miserable as he was before and wonders why his kids don't speak to him.
@@negligible_realityIt always weirds me out that abusive parents are dumbfounded that their kids won’t speak to them. Truly, they seem baffled by all the reality of their abuse.
Me (in family therapy): Well, that was when you gave me a bloody lip.
My mother: What?! I-I did…that would…I’d have to hit you in the face to do that!
Me: …you did.
Man, I didn’t even want to talk about the child abuse during family therapy. I just wanted her to stop treating me like shit now that I was an adult. It took a couple of months but she finally stormed out of family therapy; we haven’t spoken since-it’s been years.
But I’m genuinely glad to hear that your mom is awesome and you as well as your siblings are benefitting from your mom’s awesomeness :) I find other people’s healthy parent-child relationships to be really healing. It’s like an affirmation that parents can (and should) treat their kids like actual people who deserve dignity and respect.
@@negligible_reality I relate so much for the mom. Mine was different though. She would never stand up for me, because her abuse made her extremely passive to a fault. She wanted to avoid conflict at all costs, so she just ignored it and pretended everything was ok. But she was very kind and never wanted to be like her own mom.
Instead of teaching males to NOT be angry and aggressive, they are teaching the opposite. And they are choosing to do this, nobody is forcing them to spread this toxicity.
"Men are their own worse enemies", uno reverso, ay?
just join the army at that point. at least they pay you
As a veteran I’m disgusted by this. Suicide rates are so high in the military. They shouldn’t be putting children through this!
I hate the fact that we romanticised the idea of buds and grueling special forces courses, they're genuinely meant to induce suffering and get the most tough men into a high highly skilled unit, and even then it's for a short time and you don't get many chances to recycle.
I maybe overstepping here but I don't think most vets of tier one units would throw someone into the suck as their first self improvement solution
And don't forget the huge issue of SA within the US military. Not to mention all the war crimes they commit and have committed. And Chad mentioned "all of the instructors are "
'ex-military' and 'ex-cops'", so that just tells you what kind of people are in the US military and police force. Too many US Americans are delusional.
You are not a veteran
I went to military myself (Finnish Conscription so not really put ehh...) and there they especially focus on good atmosphere and everyone's well-being.
Some lousy-ass reporter made a tweet where he complained how army is too soft and will produce "weak men" to which was replied by General Marshall (yes that guy uses Twitter) begging a question: Which one is more loyal? One who's been facing hazing or the one who's been treated with respect?
That is a General I'm ready to hell and back with. Not like these egoistical assholes who get their kicks for bullying and hazing these men who just want to improve on themselves
@@lisaanimi I mean the Russians were apparently creating strong men then if that reporter's logic held true, yet I've seen the russian state almost collapse twice within the span of a year
There is no way someone is actually paying 18,000 to become an “alpha”💀
They have the money to spend maybe if you watched less chad Chad you could afford it
Yeah that's absolutely ridiculous, like if u want to become a strong man that means well just go to the gym or you know join the military. Like wasting 18k on this dumb meaningless camp is absolute insanity to me. 😅😅😅
@@meowbahhyt oh wow, are you being serious? Because if so, that's really something.
If you _are_ being serious: it's not really about the price, it's about what they're spending it on lol.
An "alpha bootcamp" is worth negative money (meaning you'll almost certainly come out the other end worse off than when you started).
They're rich middle aged men who have completed the main missions in life. Now they're doing the side quest where they pay $18k to get screamed at by bro vet grifters in a parking lot.
@@meowbahhyt “maybe if you watched less chad chad” Bold words from someone who has 160 comments on this channel lol.
The whole alpha beta thing is based off of wolves in captivity. It's a perfect allegory for these men. Dogs trapped in a mental prison of their own design.
the guy who created that system spent the past 13 years of his life trying to convince people ge was wrong
How bad do you have to feel about yourself to allow this kind of grift to seduce you? Really feel bad for the people who sign up for this
@@sjsomething4936 eh, I mean I kinda get it. Maybe it's just cause I went to Catholic school and that shit kinda messes you up (not like that), but I can totally see how a lonely, insecure young guy might end up going down that path. I mean none of it _actually_ makes any sense, but I can see how it might make sense to someone in a more vulnerable headspace... hopefully that makes sense lol
@@idontwantahandlethough yea, cults don't target stupid people, they target lonely people, wich sucks, but you can't help someone who doesn't want you to.
At the end of the day they signed an that's that.
I'm more concerned for the kids here. There's no way of knowing if they actually wanted this shit, and probably not honestly.
Is the guy that came up with that a psychologist? I vaguely remember hearing a psychologist came up with it for the military with tests and the whole nine.
0:26 yea but why would i change lmaoooooo
i literally wanna cry for those little boys just trying to exist in the world. this is literal child torture. why can’t our young boys just be taught that who they are and how they feel matters?
Because the fathers are repressed...
Because it doesn't matter, letting feelings cloud your judgment never goes well.
@@AlasadgFeelings are always there. If you don’t know what you’re feeling, the feeling will take the wheel. So it very much matters to know what it is you’re feeling if you want to come close to being rational.
@@AlasadgOkay… even if that was true, you can’t honestly be saying the solution is just to repress all feelings forever. Somehow that doesn’t exactly sound healthy.
Chad Chad videos are way more bad 😞
"A father and son experience, that will be remembered forever." Yea... That's called trauma 💀
Edit: There are some bad fucking takes in the replies y'all. Don't even bother going down there, seriously.
Trauma bonding can be quite effective
@@shuttttt except for the fact that it's ✨traumatic✨
@@gipito That's what makes it so hard to forget 🤣
@@shuttttt and that’s why it shouldn’t happen
@@vixxie_dust I mean I thought it was clear that I was joking. But yeah, I guess people do really think like that nowadays so it's becoming harder to tell the difference between a complete imbecile and someone like me who is just being sarcastic. The internet truly has broken people's brains... Sad times
Become "alpha" by _fully submitting_ to a more "alpha" man and paying him for the privilege. It's like the bully said "Give me your lunch money and you'll be like me one day."
Right?
Oh jeez I never thought of it that way. So I guess the _more_ alpha thing is to start my own camp! 😂 /jk
Hmmm...that doesn't sound like "Alpha" to me
so...to be an alpha you have to be an omega?? or a beta, in their words.
that is why I call my friends betas, as they may one day become alphas like me
and I'm just so kind and loving that I want the best for my STUPID UGLY BETA friends
5:45 imagine if one of them just started having an asthma attack and he said this ☠️
That actually happened to a guy in my platoon in boot camp during the PFT 3 mile run portion dude had a hard time breathing and got sent to medical. Turned out he got sports induced asthma which I didn’t even know was a thing. I doubt any of these “instructors” know what that is
I once heard an ex-evangelical woman talk about her abusive father going to one of these "self-improvement" boot camps at the recommendation of their church leader. When he came back, he was no less abusive, but now he had the suffering he paid to go through at that camp as a new weapon to use against his children and wife. Whenever they would cry or get angry at him for how he treated them, he would pull out the vanity dog-tags that the boot camp gave him and yell that they didn't understand what pain was, none of them were going to belittle him or diminish him anymore because he had "been through too much", etc. It seemed that he had essentially purchased a traumatic experience to hold over his family members heads, to diminish their own suffering and fear of him.
Maybe it's uncharitable, but I do wonder how many similar cases these camps create. These men are essentially paying to be screamed at, belittled, threatened with violence, and emotionally broken down by an authority figure, and are told that it is a positive character-building experience to be treated this way. How many of them then go home and become that authority figure to their families--who did not pay for the privilege, and can't leave?
God that’s so horrifying to think about
Imagine seeing how Jesus treated women and children in the Bible with such love and respect and gentleness and walking away from that thinking power and dominance is God’s plan for men over their families.
Horrific
They pay for a trauma to project onto their families and loves ones
Yaikes😬
@@boopdoop2251 Ooof.. you hit the nail on the head. This is what it's like in my religion too. The religious symbol-person is such a kind soul who treats family with gentleness and love. Meanwhile many men practicing my religion don't follow that example, and they just want to exert dominance because "that's how God wanted it to be". 😢
Could we get a full video of three knights just hanging out? For my mental health
raw
I would love to watch 3 knights make tiktoks and chase cats they see
I would watch a 24 hour livestream of that
YES PLEASE
I was just gonna say!! This needs like a series! :D
This dudes philosophy of “if they suffer they will be better!!” is literally the same thing that Jigsaw from Saw thinks.
Tbf this is a very old (and dumb) idea that suffering is liked to gaining moral virtue.
You find it it religious dogma (the purgatory for example).
And related to the "alpha" online culture it's just another toxic ideal of masculinity.
In reality : suffering is nearly always bad, sometime, suffering in the case of punishment can be useful and therefore good, but only as a way to dissuade to continue doing bad stuff, or as a way to learn the hard way (for examle, you trashed a wall, and you are forced to wash it back)
If people really want to improve themselve : there are many sensible ways to do it, therapists & doctors can help fix issues, diet, sports/gym, finding a hobby, self-development lessons (about gaining confidence, being bettter organized), actually socializing with people, learning new skills.
i mean, they would probably gain way more by doing anything esle, like joining a cooking club, buy a gym or public pool membership or litterally anything, anything would have a better impact on their life (either by increasing their mental health, their physical fitness, their social skills, their knowledge & practical skills, etc) than spending 18k on some macho scam.
omg you're right. except instead of being kidnapped they're paying for it!!
@@homocatphenomena7168 how convenient for that dude!
@@homocatphenomena7168Jigsaw didn’t even need to kidnap! Just offer it as a course!
This should be the next saw sequel
"serial entrepreneur" translation: every business he has founded has failed
It's so wild how this whole "alpha male" grift has basically become a thriving industry dedicated to separating insecure men from their money.
I wish I too had no morals and I could make a fortune scamming people...
Yeah it's basically essential oils for men.
wait till you learn about the “female empowerment” industry lol
I mean those who create this stuff and wanna get payed are also insecure so that's probably not their intention.
@@hello-ii5lh what do u mean wait
it's been mainstream since the 00s.
"buy this ___, and u'll be the strong, independent girlboss u were always meant to be"
Manosphere strategy: 1. Waste lifesavings on getting bullied relentlessly. 2. Get home and blame women for poor mental health.
And then wonder why divorce rates r higher and why most woman don't want to settle anymore. Sike obviously the reason is "feminism"😂
@HarryElephante why are men so emotional? calm down bro, it's not that serious
@HarryElephanteyou came back to comment twice you so mad? Get some help.
@@Banana34598 blud deleted his comment XD
They don’t like spending money on women but are fine getting scammed by influencers. Terrible people will take your money regardless of gender.
This is basically a “I suffered, so should you!” mentality.
You’ve done it! You’ve boiled conservatism down to its basic core!
It's literally the mentality the US military has been working on breaking for the last 2 decades but vet bros like the dude in the video think it's just everyone else going soft so it hard to get them to understand
@@RiorozenHumans also develop by learning from the past, by not repeating those mistakes. By forcing someone to suffer because “I had to suffer back in my day!” you’re not helping the next generation, you’re just being spiteful. By this reasoning we still should die from starvation and cold in winter because by doing so the strong survives and the weak dies, nice.
"Back in my day, we had to fight wolves on the way to school. Time for you to do the same!"
7:09 It's me, actually. I'm "They"(/them). I'm the god of this new world, now bow before me!
I BOW TO THE NON-BINARY GOD!!!!!
I’m the them we must be siblings
@@Oreo_AteYou lesbian young Sheldon skibidi toilet pfp ???
@@minifyesnumberonehater Skibidi gay bazinga
As a gay beta masochist who wants to improve myself while engaging in financial domination play, I see this as an absolute win
That’s the kinda camp I oughta run hahaha
literally the 1st thing i thought when they mentioned how much this damn thing costs. its GOT to be fetish, theres no other way anyone would wanna be here
this made me laugh
Honestly, a dominatrix or sadist would cost less and they probably know more about safety than any of these alphas
How do you feel knowing that you have posted this?
My husband, (who's in the military, so he got paid to go through this shit, basically), is really dedicated to male mental health, especially for military men and other men who think that therapy is for "pussies." This shit makes me so sad because these men are disenfranchised and depressed. Men in the US are killing themselves in staggering numbers, and the rate of military men who kill themselves lead me to believe that boot-camp is not the cure. Based on what my husband saw in his peers, I bet it makes the suicidality much worse (though there isn't necessarily empirical evidence to suggest as much). Just. Ugh. This is so sad. Those men need and deserve real help. They're desperate. It breaks my heart.
Exactly. I don't why they thought it was a good idea to copy the structure of military training (except worse) when the biggest issue for military personnel are suicide and sexual harassment/assault.
inb4 someone pulls the: ''but what about the womenz!!!'' whenever someone mentions male suicide
Only you can help yourself chad Chad fan
@@morgannyan2738 it's not women that keep men from getting therapy lmao
@@LuluTheCorgi it is women who make fun of men for being emotianal though
My uncle forced me thru the squire program. I soon found out I was going to high school with the founders son. He was a year or two younger than me but I met him right around the “devious lick trend”. Let me tell you the amount of shit that kid bragged about stealing or breaking. Rich families are insane.
So he definitely raised an upstanding citizen 😂
By coincidence, does he live in a Low Income Housing Enviroment designated under the government name "Section 8" ? Does he and a group of his allies control areas of this section to run his illigitimate buisness? Do they possess unregistered firearms? mind-altering inhibitors? and does he only use cash for financial transactions?
@@daveidk Translation: “Does he live in the hood and is apart of a gang?” I don’t think so, this guy mentioned that he’s rich so he’s probably not in the hood or apart of a gang also he mentioned that this was in like high school.
@@daveidkNah I think you're off the mark, he called the kid rich, or do you mean the uncle? Can you be more specific please?
Was it not "tough enough" being raised in a Mexican household?
14:12 this whole montage is so cute to me for no reason😭❤ WAYY better than the mordern day bootcamp
hot tip to be an alpha: don't pay another man $18,000 to humiliate, degrade, and torture you.
I didn't think I needed to spell that out.
Half the guys who enlist take pay cuts to join up. You're telling me half the men in our armed forces are cucks to other men?
"Become a strong-minded individual by blindly obeying someone else's orders and paying to be abused.."
Makes total sense!
FLIP THE SWITCH
Just like you're blindly watching Chad Chad?
@@meowbahhytliterally how is that the same thing? chad chad isn’t abusing anyone or making them pay $18,000 for nothing
@@meowbahhyt bro you have a cutesy anime pfp. Why are you defending the alpha bros
@@akiraeatsguitarpicks491 they're a troll. They have like, no exaggeration, almost 200 comments on her videos trying to get engagement. If you click on the replies to any other comment it's very likely they'll be there lol
Having people actually pay a fortune to get PTSD is very much the capitalist version of "I'll give you something to cry about".
😭😭
LMAOOO
doing this with willing but vulnerable adults is one thing, doing this with likely unwilling children is actually disgusting
its crazy how much parents are allowed to get away with without it being legally child abuse
I'm a big dude 6'3 278 and I was very depressed I had two options either therapy or boot camp and I chose therapy. Now I'm about 256 working out regularly reading books regularly going out with friends talking and listening to them and I'm volunteering to teach kids soccer. It's not hard to be a role model. This bootcamp is exactly why therapy is always the best option.
Hey, I'm proud of you, dude, you did and are still doing a great job! If you ever backslide a little, don't lose hope, because now you know you have the ability to move forward, you've proved it to yourself and everyone else.
Good job man. Proud of you.
that's awesome man, we really need more good role models like in this world fr
Awesome!! Be super proud!!! ♡
love that bro
The difference between this and the military is that if you’re running, the instructor is running too, if you’re doing an obstacle course they’re right next to you the entire time, they might be yelling at you the entire time you’re doing it but it creates an idea that they aren’t there to torment you, they are training you and they want you to succeed
Not sure what military you went into, my experience was a bunch of failed, talentless nobodies who couldnt never succeed in the real world and now thought they had the right to push me around because of a little sticker on their shoulder
Military instructors have it 10x harder too
Do these men know that they can just join the military and get treated the same way and even get paid for it
That's not for everyone and plus you may have to go to another country for that Chad Chad fan
@@meowbahhyt it's basically the same thing and you get paid in the army
@@meowbahhyt What countries in this planet don't have a form of military training? there's barely any reason to go to another place to partake in it
@@meowbahhyt Does the US not have military? How old are you that you think people have to go to other countries to be in the military?
@@meowbahhytOf course it's not for everyone, especially for betas like you.
You can accomplish the same thing with an alarm clock and a miniscule amount of will-power. Being tough and able to deal with anything isnt something you can be taught, it must be learned through the blood and sweat of experience. Embrace the suck, ignore the pain, silence your ego, and carry on. Start small by solving problems yourself rather than asking/paying for help.
I was in something called Young Marine Academy. Kind of like military school. Very similar, I was yelled at and called names as a 10 year old by grown men in their 30s and 40s for not knowing the answers to questions and for making eye contact. They had a rule against eye contact with anyone of a higher rank than you. And they used physical training (PT) as punishment running, push-ups, etc, while being yelled at. I still have trouble maintaining eye contact as an adult. Thanks for the childhood trauma.
I'm so sorry you had to go through that. 😞
Im so so sorry u had to go thru that i hope u will be ok
That’s terrible I’m so sorry that you had to go through that
How is this school even legal 💀
How are any of these stupid alpha schools legal, its just trauma that costs 14,000 dollars?
It’s basically a marine who never deployed taking out all his anger about how much he hates his life on a bunch of random people, and also he managed to rope his veteran friends into helping him do it. This dude is yelling because that all he wants to do there is more to training someone than just screaming at them 24/7, these guys are spending $18,000 and aren’t getting taught anything.
Most Veterans would be dissapointed about this tbh
@@uhokiguessik I am
Honestly just a get rich quick scheme run by lazy losers
I’m not sure why we’re ragging on the instructor. Imagine if you could monetize your major malfunction.
Mine would be a camp where you never see anyone but a single friendly cuddle cat or dog. It’s your dime. You make small, good meals for yourself and have no projects waiting or guilt for not being productive.
Money please! The man is a genius… in need of intensive therapy.
@@GingerKing243For losers by losers
Sorry to break it to you but if you willingly pay $18k to be treated like this for 75 hours straight you don’t want to “man up”… you just have a degradation kink
Hahahaha haven't thought about it like that, but it does seem very plausible
Yes
They don’t even realize it 💀💀😂
Imagine masculinity so fragile you have to be tortured in order to be manly
Or you could go to real bootcamp and get paid instead of paying
As someone who has actually been in the military and gone to boot camp, this reeks of the guys who say “I would have joined up and served my country, BUT…” and think this is what boot camp was like.
the resigned “ a twinge.. of cringe 😔😮💨 “ after bullying herself was a top 10 cinematographic moment
Chad Chad being ironic isn't funny I skip all her videos because of the lack of self awareness
literally a masterpeice
@@meowbahhytdidn’t skip this one baby
@@meowbahhyt then why tf are you even here bro?😂 Get tf out and save your time alpha meow
@@meowbahhytnah babe you have 160 different comment on this page your a bully and a hypocrite and def weird
every single kids movie in the 90s had the protagonist being threatened with being sent to military school as like the worst thing that could happen and now the men who grew up on those movies can take their sons to do this
Chad Chad videos are one of the worst things to experience but go off
@@meowbahhytsaid the weeb with that anime pic.
@@meowbahhytyou sure are spending a lot of time on them commenting and engaging so much under her videos, weeb.
@@meowbahhyt you have got to be the most lame troll I've ever seen
@@Kuffkuff62They are not even trying at this point 🙁
I’m a man going into the mental health field myself. This shit is honestly sickening. As you said in the video I think the reason lots of men are so scared to talk about their mental health is because of conditioning like this that tells us we’re all supposed to be hardcore macho men. Traumatic experiences like this aren’t making you a better person they’re just gonna make it harder for you to actually address your problems and the fact that they even do this to kids is just despicable. I hate that we live in an age where these types view emotion in males as “weakness” but hopefully I can do my part to make things marginally better
i'm a man as well, and indeed this shit is just horrifying, these types of people literally exploit and scam insecure men (meanwhile tons of them defend these scammers, what with Andrew Tate, Hamza and so on) as they ironically brainwash them with the idea of showing emotions as weakness meanwhile they brag about their material possessions
That, and almost 0% confidentiality, unless you manage to find a chaplain with a seminary degree to talk to.
as a man i think a huge reasson men are scared to talk about their feelings is when men talk about their problems theres always a feminist to say men have no problems and that werre sexist
infact i might get a reply like that here
@@nobodythenobody9779 Doesn't have to be a "feminist". It can be other men too.
@@jackoplumkin6412 it can but it’s almost always feminists you see attacking men, especially online.
It’s not men that tell men their problems aren’t real, they tend to be supportive.
To quote John Marston, "My life has become full of theys and thems, and I ain't got a goddamn clue who any of 'em are!"
14:40 I like this joke because of how much historical knights spent their time just fucking around when they weren't training
They LITERALLY FUCKED around lol
Well, wars are basically:
1% of time - trying not to die in combat
99% of time - trying not to die of boredom
"No longer act like a child" sounds like childhood trauma to me
Sounds like you never grew up
@@meowbahhyt bruh
Sounds like growing up
@@Ramirezggg at the age of 13? XD
@@Ramirezgggyou’re not supposed to act grown at 13 idiot
2:09 Ah yes, sleep deprivation. The key to physical health and becoming an alpha
Chad Chad fans are so jealous of a voluntary session
@@meowbahhyt girlie close the tab and touch grass. This isn't you.
Sleep is such a feminine activity.
@@xysarenottheprize Sleep is for pussies who have been brainwashed by social media and the leftist agenda. True men stay up all night doing push-ups and go through the day with a water bottle with pure caffeine in it and raw meat.
Fellas, is it gay to sleep?
I love the truck pulling clip, where you can clearly see the guy at the back of the line isn't doing any actual pulling, the rope is just sitting on his shoulder
I can see why this would appeal to people. I kinda got forced into doing something _slightly_ similar to this boot camp by my parents, and it’s true, making it through a bunch of tough experiences really does make the day to day struggles feel easier to deal with. But the main difference is that the “modern day knight” camp is built to make you ignore your suffering and squash down your emotions, when instead, the true way for tough experiences to be used to help you should be by giving you a feeling of “if I could get through that, I can get through this too!”
In the camp I went through, the instructors were strict (and absolutely terrifying), but they never insulted anyone, they toned things down when they noticed anyone struggling, they never shamed anyone for lagging behind or saying no to things, and they congratulated and encouraged everyone after making it through the day. I’m a scrawny, underweight girl who doesn’t do any physical activity beyond picking up a pencil, but never once did the instructors EVER make me feel bad when I ran out of breath or fell behind. So, while that camp was torture for me and I would never do anything like that again in my life, now that it’s over, I can say that it had a genuinely positive impact on me and my self esteem! Because I did something I thought I wouldn’t be capable of, and I was encouraged to push through it until the end! Not pushed down by instructors on a power trip who intentionally try to make people quit, like the ones in this video specifically admitted was their goal.
It’s bad enough for the men and especially the children who made it all the way through this video’s camp, but imagine how bad this is for the people who were broken down until they quit. All they’re left with is the feeling that all the degradation they received is true, the belief that they’re too weak to overcome challenges, and a massive hole in their wallets. This isn’t how things should be.
I’m rambling a ton now, but what I was trying to say is that even if there’s some merit to the basic concept of this, the way it’s executed takes away all the good of it and causes only harm. If anyone is feeling tempted by this camp, go train for a marathon instead! Or go to the gym! Do some difficult feats where you can see visible improvement in your self so you can keep yourself encouraged. Being put down and screamed at and pointlessly tortured won’t ever do any good.
I love this comment! Thanks for sharing your experience!
I’m also a small girl, not really underweight but I don’t weigh much. Also not so physically active. So it’s encouraging to hear that you were able to accomplish this and benefit from it! Good job.
Gotta agree, doing something like a marathon or tough mudder is similar for that feeling of having conquored something immense and having that experience build your self esteem. Most of those are also waaay cheaper to join. You could even do a zombie run if you wanna make it more fun.
Bro, you need real people to talk with...
But also yes: Working out and overcoming obstacles makes people feel good and more confident. Shocking, truly.
I agree mostly, but some people thrive under negative reinforcement and not everyone thinks like you. The fact that your apparently a scrawny undersized girl after going through this camp probably shows that you couldve used less positivity 🤷♂️
@@jesustyronechrist2330 if you mean therapy, i agree.
People be forgetting that knights were soft as heck. Writing poetry, singing love songs - it was a huge theme in knighthood that actually, men are the ones in tune with their emotions.
And they were the rich kids. It's like thinking some CEOs kid is a real badass. lol
Yeah... These are the same kind of dudes that throw a fit and claim it's a lie that Roman marble statues were painted bright colors. They portray Roman male culture as the "most alpha", when it was the gayest era ever.
@@TheybyBaby
Boys were encouraged to have sex with their professors that's how gay it was. They were so hateful of woman in Rome they thought the most alpha thing was to penetrate another man be it battlefields or married.
Like the manliest thing you could do was penetrate a guy.
@@TheybyBaby Can't believe you put the Ancient Greeks down like that. Achilles is _right there._ 🤭
You weren't even there though did you read that in a book?
Shoutout to the drive thru worker who had to serve Chad Chad and her three friends ice cream while they were wearing full knight armor
... _missed opportunity_ ... I wish they had simultaneously tried to eat their ice creams with the helmet on. 🤣
@@pauligrossinoz so true 💀
@stopsin1 okay manlover
Just a little treat before hitting the gym in preparation for the Crusades.
@@Duothimir real 💀
Ok a few things, so I've been working on a huge project and ended up watching several of your videos over the past... couple of days now, I think. Not even on purpose, you're genuinely entertaining and it keeps me on track. That said, I LOVE the goofy bits you put into each video, but the knights at the end of this one has gotta be my favorite
But second of all I was wondering if you were gonna clip in your cat (Mento?) pawing under the door, and lo and behold, you beat me to it
You've gotta be my new favorite casual commentary youtuber out there, above any of the others I've seen, I wish you the best with future scripts :] and hey!! So close to 3mil subscribers, letsgo!!!!
everytime i hear an "alpha" talk about being "alpha" i remember tywin lanister saying "a king who needs to say 'i am the king' is no king"
The Geto Boys had a similar philosophy about flexing nuts that is absolutely timeless.
To take your quote into real world context. So this bootcamp is where all the weebaboos go that want the military experience without joining the military. By paying $18k XD
Exactly
this reminds me of those "troubled teen" programs that were basically curriculums of torture
Did you ever happen to come across beyond scared straight.
"A father & son experience that will be remembered forever"
That's a lot of fun words to just say "trauma," but okay
Not everyone is thin skinned like Chad Chad and you