i know this is such a green question i am embarrassed to ask it but could you explain drive time to me. 11 hrs in 14 hrs? But you have to take a 30 afrer 8 hrs? please help
@@jarnett9137 Yes once you come on duty you have to take a 30 minute break within 8 hrs. You can only drive four 11 hrs in a day. And you can only be on duty for 14 hrs. When either the 11 or 14 is reached you need to take 10 hrs off. Hope that helps, good luck
Thank you so much. Just got this new update and this is the 3rd ELD that I have had to learn. Been driving since early 90s. I wish they would quit changing this stuff over and over. This helped me out big time. Thanks again.
Good Morning, you have helped me out a lot. I’m starting at a new company and this my first time using a peoplenet. I will go back over it later on but thanks for your help.
Off duty PC. If your company offers that. If they do they may have limited the amount of miles you can go in a day. Also be warned that if you pass places that have truck parking and DOT stops you. They may very well take you back to those places
You need to be planning more appropriately. You should be stopping at a place to park within your last hour of driving. Driving til the end of your 11th hour isn't going to fly if you constantly do it and dot questions it.
I would like to clarify on the "On Driver" and "On Not Driver" statues you have... BOTH of these status are On duty time.. NOT DRIVE TIME. I have tested this on my own unit thats exactly like yours and these 2 duties are purely used mainly for Team drivers.. however because of the way they built it... everyone on People Net will have these statuses even if your only Soloing. As team drivers.. when the truck starts moving as a team driver... only the driver in the "On Driver" will be moved to the drive line..... in order to change drivers when you rotate.. the driver going off duty can go to "on Not Driver" as well.. and the driver coming on.. needs to flip to "On Driver" before he moves the truck so the system will move him to the drive line instead of the last driver
Why did company change to this system overnite is it bc FMCS regulations? And akso can i use Personal Conveyance (PC) while on a load.?? Thanks in advance.
That's a great question. I hope I am getting it right for you. You can go to logs and events click on a specific time or log event then you can annotate that specific event. Hope that's the area you were looking for.
These elogs is bull shit the government has ruined trucking on paper logs it you needed to you could stop and sleep a few hours but now it looks like it's coming to a end I hope and pray I can stay off them and now since we have elogs you can't find places to sleep and majority of the time I've been on them I have to drive sleepy.
If it dosen't show you've gain hours after 30 minutes break and you haven't use up your 10 how will it show you still have time left to get to your next stop. Also if you stay on duty 30 minutes unloading do you sign out to be off duty.
Hi carla. Im thinking there are two 150 mile exemptions. One being Ag Exempt. The other I think is for non cdl driving commercial vehicles under 26k lbs. Which one night you be referring to?
@@MyLord100571 so that hasn't changed. Which is good. I saw that 150 air miles and thought perhaps that is what we were to use Please know I appreciate you for taking your time to help us!!
@@mumsey4 I thought that as well when I first liked at it. If I read things right. That 150 exemption is for non-cdl drivers who drive commercial pick up trucks that are licensed under 26k lbs. That is for their local haul. If I read it right........
I think it's up to the individual company to set restrictions for "YM". My company has no restrictions where as others may restrict speed or distance traveled.
Ugh ok..... Your taking about yard movement. But my company has no restrictions on personal conveyance either. It IS legal to drive in personal conveyance another 20 miles to reach a stopping point, given that you do not pass a safe haven along the way to reach that point. According to a Missouri DOT officer
@@MyLord100571 i get what you're saying..but no..it would not be legal to use PC to go farther...meaning towards your destination. In the DOTs eyes, you should have planned better. Now you can use PC to find a safe haven, such as you're out of time at a receiver/shipper and are forced to leave. Now if you're in traffic lets say, and you would have made your stop in time but got delayed because of an accident or something, you're better off running that little bit over to the very next safe haven in violation and just annotate it in the remarks. Just don't make it a habit kind of thing.
Good question Mike. That would probably depend if there is a chance someone like service personnel might move your truck. When I bring my truck "home" I go into rest break after my post trip.
Great video thank you for your time and information really helped me out alot I do have a question if you go on duty yard movement or off pc (rest break) is the button to use to exit out of the on duty yard movement and off PC or you can go back into sb? If I want to stay longer then 30mins (break)
Why is it so much more goddamn complicated to use the peoplenet now? Suddenly there's a bunch of additional screens and bouncing back and forth to screw with. Why "On Not Driver" instead of "on duty not driving". It makes me think I'm on duty, but I'm not the driver of the truck. Why "Driver Resources"? What was wrong with the hot keys? Seems to me they went in there and jacked everything around for no other reason than for the shits & giggles of it all. It's stupid. And why the hell can't I put fuel stops in the computer anymore? They completely shit the bed on this deal. It's a nightmare now.
The "On Driver" and "On Not Driver" is still just On duty time.. NOT DRIVE TIME.. the purpose for these 2 on Duty statues is just for team drivers.. you will have to flip between these 2 statuses when you are team driving so that the proper driver will go to the drive line when he starts moving... until you have a team driver... just don't worry about which On Duty status you are on as long as you are On duty when it comes to pre trip, post trip, loading, unloading, fueling, etc
Thanks for posting this man. My company gave us a handout for the Android version. If you know how, clearing faults like memory and power compatibility guides would be helpful as well.
Thanks for the comment. Wish I could help you, but I have no idea about clearing faults. If I do find anything out though I will post it here on the comments. Thanks again for watching and commenting! Have a great day!!!!!
Ron Davis: I have a notification of your comment but for some reason its not showing up here. Ron's question is, ron davis commented: "Let’s say you don’t add a trailer or tractor, would it allow you to click on pre and post trip inspection" 3 hours ago To answer your question your company is going to have your truck and vin numbers already in the eld. You can do a pre and post trip without putting a trailer number in.
What a screwed up system this has become. There are several oddities I need addressed. Firstly is the rapid change from on-duty to driving once the vehicle is moving. Unlike the old system where the vehicle travelled a couple of hundred yards before the change, now it is almost instantaneous. As soon as I enter the yard at the end of the day to fuel up, I put myself on duty to preserve my driving time while I await for the vehicle ahead to fuel. Once he's left, I will pull up to the pumps only fifty feet away and the system puts me into driving. Immediately I must put myself back into on-duty lest I run out of critical driving minutes if I'm close to running out. What to do to avoid the sudden change? Simply put myself onto on-duty yard movement? Why, yes, but it then requires an annotation as to why I'm switching to yard movement. Really? I have to take the time to explain that I'm gonna fuel and park? Of all the stupid things. And unlike the old system where I hit the 'remarks' button to make whatever notes are needed, I must now find an event to add an annotation. And when doing so I'm restricted as to how much I can enter because it is limited to only two lines or a set number of characters. How can adequately explain for the DOT audit why I ran out of hours, for example, or any other event that needs noting? Under the old 'remarks' method, I could write a letter if needed. Then comes the search for vehicle inspection which they have moved to 'driver' from logs. It does not even afford me to post a post inspection as hitting the off-duty log off button takes me to the log in screen, bypassing the 'driver' button (which your video shows) altogether. I mean, what was wrong with the old system that they changed to this convoluted, screwed-up system that does not follow in logical order? Did the DOT require this change? What an exercise in frustration!
I fully understand your frustration, and am right there with you. I agree with you that the Feds have taken this ELD mandate entirely to far. The only few bits of advice I can offer to you is this. When you say you are at the end of day waiting to fuel, and you only have to travel 50 ft. to get to the pump, do so at less then 5 mph. This should keep your eld from putting you into driving. Yes, you could put yourself into YM as soon as you arrived, and yes you have to do a burdensome annotation on a log that you have to find. I drive to the fuel pump and go on duty fueling even if only one truck in front of me. Yes I have to annotate that Im fueling. My question is, if its the end of day why worry about driving time? Im also sure that companies have their ELD's set up differently. Finally, You do or should have an option of hitting the home button, then find the driver tab then the inspection tab to do a post trip inspection. If you actually do a walk around at that time and want to stay on duty. I do my post trip while I am fueling to kill two birds with one stone. I know that the mandate is a big change from what we are all accustomed to doing, but we did choose this career and these are the conditions we have to abide by.
The only reason this piece of shit is in one piece is that it is not mine. Were it mine I would have bounced it off the floor a ling time ago. Stat away from this unmitigated disaster of a log system. Trimble should be forced out of business for buying this garbage company
Great Video! I am a new driver and got more out of 14 mins than 3 days orentation. Please keep the videos coming!!!
LOL Thanks for the comment and for watching.
i know this is such a green question i am embarrassed to ask it but could you explain drive time to me. 11 hrs in 14 hrs? But you have to take a 30 afrer 8 hrs? please help
@@jarnett9137 Yes once you come on duty you have to take a 30 minute break within 8 hrs. You can only drive four 11 hrs in a day. And you can only be on duty for 14 hrs. When either the 11 or 14 is reached you need to take 10 hrs off. Hope that helps, good luck
So every time you stop like at the shipper, receiver, fueling .. etc , you have go to your logs and enter that in the events ?
Yes, you have to go on duty when Loading, Unloading, fueling, pretrip, etc.
Thank you so much. Just got this new update and this is the 3rd ELD that I have had to learn. Been driving since early 90s. I wish they would quit changing this stuff over and over. This helped me out big time. Thanks again.
Me too every time a new one come out you got to learn it all over again sucks
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Good Morning, you have helped me out a lot. I’m starting at a new company and this my first time using a peoplenet. I will go back over it later on but thanks for your help.
Thank you sir very helpful information
Thank you for your comment. Glad I could help
Can you only use the resource button when on duty?
Hi thanks for your time. My question is if end of my drive couldn't find parking how can I go 20 miles more ?
Off duty PC. If your company offers that. If they do they may have limited the amount of miles you can go in a day. Also be warned that if you pass places that have truck parking and DOT stops you. They may very well take you back to those places
@@MyLord100571 yes we have PC thanks
You need to be planning more appropriately. You should be stopping at a place to park within your last hour of driving. Driving til the end of your 11th hour isn't going to fly if you constantly do it and dot questions it.
@@showcasecharlie11 thanks
Very informative I really liked this
I would like to clarify on the "On Driver" and "On Not Driver" statues you have... BOTH of these status are On duty time.. NOT DRIVE TIME. I have tested this on my own unit thats exactly like yours and these 2 duties are purely used mainly for Team drivers.. however because of the way they built it... everyone on People Net will have these statuses even if your only Soloing. As team drivers.. when the truck starts moving as a team driver... only the driver in the "On Driver" will be moved to the drive line..... in order to change drivers when you rotate.. the driver going off duty can go to "on Not Driver" as well.. and the driver coming on.. needs to flip to "On Driver" before he moves the truck so the system will move him to the drive line instead of the last driver
That's good info to know. Thank you so much for sharing!
@@MyLord100571 after my post here.. i actually made a video and posted here on my UA-cam channel this morning if you like to check it out
Why did company change to this system overnite is it bc FMCS regulations? And akso can i use Personal Conveyance (PC) while on a load.?? Thanks in advance.
Yes it's a mandate by the federal government. Carriers had no choice. Im not sure about pc while under a load.
@@MyLord100571 tyvm
That was the most thorough explanation I've seen yet! Thanks 😊
Where can I add additional notes as I could in 'remarks' in the old system?
That's a great question. I hope I am getting it right for you. You can go to logs and events click on a specific time or log event then you can annotate that specific event. Hope that's the area you were looking for.
These elogs is bull shit the government has ruined trucking on paper logs it you needed to you could stop and sleep a few hours but now it looks like it's coming to a end I hope and pray I can stay off them and now since we have elogs you can't find places to sleep and majority of the time I've been on them I have to drive sleepy.
If it dosen't show you've gain hours after 30 minutes break and you haven't use up your 10 how will it show you still have time left to get to your next stop. Also if you stay on duty 30 minutes unloading do you sign out to be off duty.
Thank you just started our new up grade at horizon freight lines
Do you know how to transmit your logs to ether DOT or yourself
I believe it's under road side inspection Keith
Do you have any video or advice on use of the 150 air mile exemption?
Hi carla. Im thinking there are two 150 mile exemptions. One being Ag Exempt. The other I think is for non cdl driving commercial vehicles under 26k lbs. Which one night you be referring to?
@@MyLord100571 the AG exempt....
@@mumsey4 Ag Exempt can be run on Off Duty PC. With a notation AG EXEMPT
@@MyLord100571 so that hasn't changed. Which is good. I saw that 150 air miles and thought perhaps that is what we were to use
Please know I appreciate you for taking your time to help us!!
@@mumsey4 I thought that as well when I first liked at it. If I read things right. That 150 exemption is for non-cdl drivers who drive commercial pick up trucks that are licensed under 26k lbs. That is for their local haul. If I read it right........
People net sucks! Horrible connections that always take forever to do anything.
No...YM allows 20mph...thats the whole purpose of YM...it specifically states it in the user guide, page 31
I think it's up to the individual company to set restrictions for "YM". My company has no restrictions where as others may restrict speed or distance traveled.
@@MyLord100571 that would apply to Personal Conveyance
Ugh ok..... Your taking about yard movement. But my company has no restrictions on personal conveyance either. It IS legal to drive in personal conveyance another 20 miles to reach a stopping point, given that you do not pass a safe haven along the way to reach that point. According to a Missouri DOT officer
@@MyLord100571 i get what you're saying..but no..it would not be legal to use PC to go farther...meaning towards your destination. In the DOTs eyes, you should have planned better. Now you can use PC to find a safe haven, such as you're out of time at a receiver/shipper and are forced to leave. Now if you're in traffic lets say, and you would have made your stop in time but got delayed because of an accident or something, you're better off running that little bit over to the very next safe haven in violation and just annotate it in the remarks. Just don't make it a habit kind of thing.
@@showcasecharlie11 So I agree to disagree and leaving it at that.
So for me, I go home every night do I need to log out completely?
Good question Mike. That would probably depend if there is a chance someone like service personnel might move your truck. When I bring my truck "home" I go into rest break after my post trip.
Thanks
Great video thank you for your time and information really helped me out alot I do have a question if you go on duty yard movement or off pc (rest break) is the button to use to exit out of the on duty yard movement and off PC or you can go back into sb? If I want to stay longer then 30mins (break)
I think you can go into sleeper from any of those.
Why is it so much more goddamn complicated to use the peoplenet now? Suddenly there's a bunch of additional screens and bouncing back and forth to screw with. Why "On Not Driver" instead of "on duty not driving". It makes me think I'm on duty, but I'm not the driver of the truck.
Why "Driver Resources"? What was wrong with the hot keys? Seems to me they went in there and jacked everything around for no other reason than for the shits & giggles of it all. It's stupid.
And why the hell can't I put fuel stops in the computer anymore? They completely shit the bed on this deal. It's a nightmare now.
The "On Driver" and "On Not Driver" is still just On duty time.. NOT DRIVE TIME.. the purpose for these 2 on Duty statues is just for team drivers.. you will have to flip between these 2 statuses when you are team driving so that the proper driver will go to the drive line when he starts moving... until you have a team driver... just don't worry about which On Duty status you are on as long as you are On duty when it comes to pre trip, post trip, loading, unloading, fueling, etc
Other than that.... it all depends on your carriers configuration if you have to do fuel stuff.
Thanks for posting this man. My company gave us a handout for the Android version. If you know how, clearing faults like memory and power compatibility guides would be helpful as well.
Thanks for the comment. Wish I could help you, but I have no idea about clearing faults. If I do find anything out though I will post it here on the comments. Thanks again for watching and commenting! Have a great day!!!!!
Ron Davis: I have a notification of your comment but for some reason its not showing up here. Ron's question is, ron davis commented: "Let’s say you don’t add a trailer or tractor, would it allow you to click on pre and post trip inspection"
3 hours ago
To answer your question your company is going to have your truck and vin numbers already in the eld. You can do a pre and post trip without putting a trailer number in.
What a screwed up system this has become. There are several oddities I need addressed. Firstly is the rapid change from on-duty to driving once the vehicle is moving. Unlike the old system where the vehicle travelled a couple of hundred yards before the change, now it is almost instantaneous. As soon as I enter the yard at the end of the day to fuel up, I put myself on duty to preserve my driving time while I await for the vehicle ahead to fuel. Once he's left, I will pull up to the pumps only fifty feet away and the system puts me into driving. Immediately I must put myself back into on-duty lest I run out of critical driving minutes if I'm close to running out. What to do to avoid the sudden change? Simply put myself onto on-duty yard movement? Why, yes, but it then requires an annotation as to why I'm switching to yard movement. Really? I have to take the time to explain that I'm gonna fuel and park? Of all the stupid things. And unlike the old system where I hit the 'remarks' button to make whatever notes are needed, I must now find an event to add an annotation. And when doing so I'm restricted as to how much I can enter because it is limited to only two lines or a set number of characters. How can adequately explain for the DOT audit why I ran out of hours, for example, or any other event that needs noting? Under the old 'remarks' method, I could write a letter if needed. Then comes the search for vehicle inspection which they have moved to 'driver' from logs. It does not even afford me to post a post inspection as hitting the off-duty log off button takes me to the log in screen, bypassing the 'driver' button (which your video shows) altogether. I mean, what was wrong with the old system that they changed to this convoluted, screwed-up system that does not follow in logical order? Did the DOT require this change? What an exercise in frustration!
I fully understand your frustration, and am right there with you. I agree with you that the Feds have taken this ELD mandate entirely to far. The only few bits of advice I can offer to you is this. When you say you are at the end of day waiting to fuel, and you only have to travel 50 ft. to get to the pump, do so at less then 5 mph. This should keep your eld from putting you into driving. Yes, you could put yourself into YM as soon as you arrived, and yes you have to do a burdensome annotation on a log that you have to find. I drive to the fuel pump and go on duty fueling even if only one truck in front of me. Yes I have to annotate that Im fueling. My question is, if its the end of day why worry about driving time? Im also sure that companies have their ELD's set up differently.
Finally, You do or should have an option of hitting the home button, then find the driver tab then the inspection tab to do a post trip inspection. If you actually do a walk around at that time and want to stay on duty. I do my post trip while I am fueling to kill two birds with one stone. I know that the mandate is a big change from what we are all accustomed to doing, but we did choose this career and these are the conditions we have to abide by.
The only reason this piece of shit is in one piece is that it is not mine. Were it mine I would have bounced it off the floor a ling time ago.
Stat away from this unmitigated disaster of a log system. Trimble should be forced out of business for buying this garbage company