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  • @abxaudiophiles
    @abxaudiophiles  5 місяців тому +1

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    • @hificave
      @hificave 5 місяців тому +1

      Try all your gear now!!! You will be surprised whic components jump higher in performance over others.

  • @NeilBlanchard
    @NeilBlanchard 5 місяців тому +17

    When caps bulge like that - they are NG. They lose value over time even without leaking. And the devices that are against the heat sinks are transistors - the 3 leads is an indicator that they are transistors.

    • @abxaudiophiles
      @abxaudiophiles  5 місяців тому +3

      Thank you sir!!! Love learning. 😍😍

    • @NeilBlanchard
      @NeilBlanchard 5 місяців тому +3

      @@abxaudiophiles I am a recent convert to good power filters - I *love* my Pine Tree Audio Iso-Power filter! It is a bargain at $175-250 for a unit with 2-8 outlets. It is rated at 15A and is not very complex, but it does work to very noticeably improve the sound quality of my system; along with their Iso-Braid AC power cables.
      I am curious to learn about their more expensive Gatekeeper power conditioning and monitoring device.

    • @abxaudiophiles
      @abxaudiophiles  5 місяців тому +1

      So a transistor, is it transitioning something or transporting something in an electrical way?

    • @JC.LC.
      @JC.LC. 5 місяців тому +3

      ​@abxaudiophiles transistors turn a small electrical signal into a bigger one (amplifying it) they can be used for switching also. I believe that's how they are used in SMPS.

    • @NeilBlanchard
      @NeilBlanchard 5 місяців тому +2

      @@abxaudiophiles as JC L.C. says, transistors are used to amplify a signal, or as switches. So the unit is remaking a 60Hz sine wave - it seems to be a big power amp, essentially.

  • @DNSWRLD
    @DNSWRLD 5 місяців тому +15

    My experience with conditioners and regenerators is, you won't notice how good it is until you take it out of the system.

    • @abxaudiophiles
      @abxaudiophiles  5 місяців тому +3

      Well that’s awesome, cus I noticed right off the rip so damn!! That’s great. 😃

  • @welderfixer
    @welderfixer 5 місяців тому +5

    Iron Worker audiophile? I think I finally found the audio tribe I belong in!
    I repair welding equipment for a living and I am building an electronics repair bench for my growing audio gear repair hobby.
    About the heat sink compound - cleaning it off and replacing it is always a good idea.
    Be careful not scratch the aluminum heat sink surface.
    Using thermal pads with paste, especially old dried out paste may not be such a good plan.
    Sense the welding machines I repair pass hundreds of amps of current, I do all I can to be sure components stay as cooled as possible.
    All the very best, Kevin

    • @abxaudiophiles
      @abxaudiophiles  5 місяців тому +1

      Awesome advice Kevin!! Yes, been an Ironworker for 30 years. Charity work is my hobby. The paste was nice and moist and still spreadable. 😁😁👍🏼👍🏼. Cheers and welcome!! 🙏🏼

    • @welderfixer
      @welderfixer 5 місяців тому +1

      @@abxaudiophiles Awesome Sir. Struck my first in summer 1978. Been welding ever since. Even taught adult ed welding for a few years. Nice to know you're "in the biz" also.
      Glad to hear the paste was still pliable. Great work on the PS Audio Re-Generator. Always nice to put gear in the rack.
      I can't wait until I can build a pair of open baffles like yours. Oh the joy it would be to have a system to be proud of.
      Take care, Kevin

  • @RobWhittlestone
    @RobWhittlestone 5 місяців тому +7

    Clean power makes a big difference. When I built my house, I had a dedicated power line put in for my hifi. Shielded cable to power cleaner sockets. RF shielding on all power cables, since I always have a mobile phone and two WLAN access points in the room. Great video, James. All the best, Rob in Switzerland

    • @abxaudiophiles
      @abxaudiophiles  5 місяців тому

      Thank you Rob for the kind words! I totally agree on the clean power aspect! I mis spoke a few times in the video, but hey, I’m always learning. Thank you sir and cheers 🍻

    • @hificave
      @hificave 5 місяців тому +1

      Wow!

  • @2madamimadam290
    @2madamimadam290 5 місяців тому +3

    Solder suckers and the fluxed wicking braid both work well. Worth having both. Saw a video where a series of pins can be desoldered and removed in in one operation by first soldering a solid copper solid wire along each joint. Then heat the copper bar with a heavier hot tip and the copper bar heats all connections in one heating source and melts every joint by conduction.
    Great video!!!!

    • @abxaudiophiles
      @abxaudiophiles  5 місяців тому +1

      Awesome!! Thanks for sharing. Glad you liked it. Cheers bro. 😎

  • @Coneman3
    @Coneman3 5 місяців тому +2

    All good systems need to take care of the following 4 areas - clean power, anti vibration, cabling, room acoustics.

  • @davidcross890
    @davidcross890 5 місяців тому +5

    Cleaner power will most always help. Happy to hear you experience the difference and great job taking the time and efforts in fixing the unit to improve it from where it was

    • @abxaudiophiles
      @abxaudiophiles  5 місяців тому

      It was a fun project. Glad to share.

  • @p57-elf
    @p57-elf 5 місяців тому +2

    Paul's regenerators are probably the best in the business..They are basically an amp that regenerates the ac signal to clean ac.. The new ones work slightly differently..However I did a rewire and that does cost a lot with a really good ground. It is the best. You should watch Michael and his video..The mains here in the UK is 230V so it's a little different and I think our mains is actually cleaner..Conditioners can and usually add noise so they defeat the purpose..

    • @abxaudiophiles
      @abxaudiophiles  5 місяців тому +1

      Very cool!! Do you have a link to his video?

    • @p57-elf
      @p57-elf 5 місяців тому +1

      @@abxaudiophiles If I put in a link in it doesn't appear. YT has stopped links but here's the title Michael Fremer Updates His House Ground For Sonic Performance..It's around 32 minutes and hell is it informative..Enjoy my friend 🙂

    • @abxaudiophiles
      @abxaudiophiles  5 місяців тому

      @@p57-elf thank you sir.

  • @emersonperin4109
    @emersonperin4109 5 місяців тому +3

    Buy a solder sucker for a few bucks and it will make your life SO easy. I do a lot of DIY electronics and I always kid with my buddies that the most used tool is always the solder sucker! When you took out the caps all you would do is heat the lead and suck the solder on each side you could pull out the cap in 30 sec. or less.

  • @shanerorko8076
    @shanerorko8076 4 місяці тому +1

    When people say cleaner power, what are they referring to?
    I believe many of people don't understand what they're talking about.
    My call sign is VK1NME, so I'm an amateur operator, if a variance of the AC sine wave was going to change the audio sinusoidal waves of an amplifier, well what do you think would happen to a radio transmitting at 28,000,000hz? It's like comparing shooting cans at 30 yards to shooting target rifle at 1100 yards, one little error at 1100 and it's a massive amount at the target.
    If AC power made such a difference you would see people using 12v batteries.
    In Ham radio, we do, not because of the "dirty" power, but because the power supply will make radio noise that the reciver will magnify.
    Some audio people see what we do in radio land and apply that to audio without knowing fully why we do what we do.
    Bob Heil was a great Ham and audio engineer, he wouldn't use AC power conditioners lol.
    AC mains power is clean, what power companies mean by dirty is a shift in frequency, but that is like .1hz over 1 minute if that, hardly rectifiable and hardly a golden ear could hear it if at all.

    • @abxaudiophiles
      @abxaudiophiles  4 місяці тому

      Well, all I can say, is swing by and sit and listen. The P600 comes with the "MultiWave" board has a wide variety of settings. All of these make a pretty noticeable difference. Also, removing the P600 from the system and going back to a standard power strip (had it set up and swapped back in about 1 minute) was a HUGE difference. A measurable difference in background noise, resolution and detail retrieval, and soundstage width and depth.. Just don't ask me how it works, I have no clue.. HA

  • @bentleygt3716
    @bentleygt3716 5 місяців тому +2

    that's a Beautiful Beast you got there. Great/Neat job on the restoration. Kudos
    i don't have a re-generator , Filter , or power conditioner. but i always wonder IF IT'S A GOOD IDEA to have a dedicated power line from the Panel straight to your re-generator, and from that to your System ?. Glad the restoration was well worth it..thank you . great video.

  • @jedi-mic
    @jedi-mic 5 місяців тому +6

    Well if the paste is dry remove it if it's still wet pliable than you'll be alright but you don't want to put it on dry paste it won't transmit the heat. Best capacitors are power capacitors work out about a dollar to $10 depending on size they have the lowest resistance of all capacitors Kermit capacitors are the best longevity. What was the make of the original capacitors?
    yeah you got the right approach with your speakers a slotted baffle for the bass woofer👍

    • @abxaudiophiles
      @abxaudiophiles  5 місяців тому +2

      Paste was wet and damp.
      All good. 👌
      Original caps were G-Luxon

  • @ryanschipp8513
    @ryanschipp8513 5 місяців тому +2

    This is a prime example of placebo effect. The only way you could make any sort of claim more defined bass, more dynamics, etcetera is if you did a blind AB test. Just think about it, you we're so excited to get this and your emotions will convince you that it must sound better with the power plant in the mix. And I've always had this question. If power regenerators are so fantastic how come barely any HiFi manufacturers even make them? It's pretty simple to figure out that it's snake oil

    • @abxaudiophiles
      @abxaudiophiles  5 місяців тому +1

      If you don’t try, you don’t know, you just speculate and assume. I would never wanna be that guy… ugh. 😩

    • @abxaudiophiles
      @abxaudiophiles  5 місяців тому +1

      @@ryanschipp8513 - Just remember as you comment on a community that’s focused on raising money for youth musical programs and moving the hobby of audio enthusiasts forward, that we are all on the same team. These arguments and debates you perpetuate are not welcome here. Believe or don’t believe, it’s not my place (nor yours) to prove anyone’s personal experience right or wrong. It’s just a low class and cringe approach to engaging with people in this hobby. Best of luck to you. 🙏🏼🙏🏼😍😍

  • @phatjbl
    @phatjbl 5 місяців тому +2

    Clean power saves fuses, helps turntable stability on speed and prolonges tube life in tube amps. Most people's power has noise and fluctuate s ...mine 226 to 236 volts at my place. Thor holds it at 240 volts. Sure you can pay big dollars for one like the PS unit. I heard a $1000000 system with this in it...everything counts at that level. Choose one to suite your budget but I say yes all day.

    • @abxaudiophiles
      @abxaudiophiles  5 місяців тому

      Well said. 👌👌

    • @supergwizzo
      @supergwizzo 5 місяців тому +1

      Stop the nonsense 50yrs tons of gear never blew a fuse Ps audio gear sux.. 😊

  • @stevegrimm9068
    @stevegrimm9068 5 місяців тому +2

    I hope those sheets you put in weren't thermal BARRIERS. I'm not an electrician but I think that paste is there to help transfer the heat.

    • @abxaudiophiles
      @abxaudiophiles  5 місяців тому

      No barrier. 👍🏼

    • @michaeltuohy1249
      @michaeltuohy1249 5 місяців тому +1

      This is a heat conducting silicone sheet. The original was most likely mylar. They insulate the transistor electrically from the heatsink, but assist with heat transfer.

    • @abxaudiophiles
      @abxaudiophiles  5 місяців тому +1

      @@michaeltuohy1249 - Silicone!! That's it, damn if I could not remember that when shooting the video.. HA damn.. Thanks man.. I learn more every day..

  • @ezralizama8613
    @ezralizama8613 5 місяців тому +1

    Awesome job on the Multiwave! Cheers

  • @hificave
    @hificave 5 місяців тому +8

    Clean power baby!

    • @abxaudiophiles
      @abxaudiophiles  5 місяців тому

      @@davidcross890 Send us your worlds best for review. Sounds awesome 👏🏼

  • @gregkoblentz7872
    @gregkoblentz7872 5 місяців тому +2

    Glad I saw this video. There's tons of PS audio power conditioners on my local FB marketplace.

    • @abxaudiophiles
      @abxaudiophiles  5 місяців тому +1

      Heck yea!! Let me know if I can help.

  • @a3marketing991
    @a3marketing991 5 місяців тому +1

    I'm using the Core Power EQUI=CORE 1800 MK3 conditioner and it's all I need. I picked it up new under $2K

  • @Charles12509
    @Charles12509 5 місяців тому +1

    I received the Volti Razz, I am totally blown away…what a huge improvement…my wife is freaking out having you over sorry…you need to get your hands on this speaker…Chuck in Puyallup

    • @abxaudiophiles
      @abxaudiophiles  5 місяців тому

      SO COOL!!!! Keep us posted.. :)

    • @Charles12509
      @Charles12509 5 місяців тому

      @@abxaudiophiles what’s your email again

  • @rickg8015
    @rickg8015 5 місяців тому +3

    Good work.. Did you also replace the other smaller electrolytic caps?

    • @abxaudiophiles
      @abxaudiophiles  5 місяців тому +1

      Thank you! I did not replace them. They all looked in really good shape. Maybe down the road we will. 😊

  • @JC.LC.
    @JC.LC. 5 місяців тому +2

    I really dig these kinds of "projects"

  • @bilguana11
    @bilguana11 5 місяців тому +1

    i use a small PS Audio regenerator on my low voltage gear including my turntable. My amp has SMPSs so there is no need for a regenerator. There is no noise in my system.

  • @robfell2011
    @robfell2011 2 місяці тому +1

    Hi, I can't seem to find a link for the capacitors you used. Can you let me know which ones you chose?

    • @abxaudiophiles
      @abxaudiophiles  2 місяці тому

      @@robfell2011
      They can be had a ton of places.
      Think I got mine on parts express.
      Just match uf and volts. 😃😃

  • @ThomasL
    @ThomasL 5 місяців тому +1

    Would be curious how they perform against 19" Racked Studio Power Conditionner, I own a Black Lion Audio PG2 (F Type i'm in France), and it's been one of the most noticeable upgrade in my system !

  • @adsph
    @adsph 5 місяців тому +1

    Good work James. Way to tackle another project and get awesome results.

    • @abxaudiophiles
      @abxaudiophiles  5 місяців тому

      It was a fun one. Thank you 🙏🏼

  • @FOH3663
    @FOH3663 5 місяців тому +1

    Very cool.
    Much appreciated.

  • @92trdman
    @92trdman 5 місяців тому +1

    I believe the 50/60hz) current cycle been boost up very high to achieve such a effect

    • @abxaudiophiles
      @abxaudiophiles  5 місяців тому

      Where do we get the boosted cycle info from?

  • @legione1capone
    @legione1capone 5 місяців тому +1

    Can't wait to hear this in my system!

    • @abxaudiophiles
      @abxaudiophiles  5 місяців тому

      You won’t even be able to pick it up. 🤣🤣

  • @OldGuyHifi
    @OldGuyHifi 5 місяців тому +2

    Great video my friend. Very interesting. I have been skeptical of these types of devices in the past. Your experience may change my mind. Thanks.

    • @abxaudiophiles
      @abxaudiophiles  5 місяців тому +1

      I was as well Ed... Damn, I hate being wrong.. HA

    • @hificave
      @hificave 5 місяців тому +1

      Its the one component I am never selling.

  • @hppsimulation9532
    @hppsimulation9532 5 місяців тому +1

    Awesome video and awesome job James!

  • @DustinDonohue
    @DustinDonohue 5 місяців тому +6

    To me it's more of a snake grail

  • @michaelwright1602
    @michaelwright1602 5 місяців тому +1

    Great find!

    • @abxaudiophiles
      @abxaudiophiles  5 місяців тому

      Thank you! It was fun and I learned some things, still lots of learning to go. 👌

  • @vendelius
    @vendelius 5 місяців тому +1

    Great Video.. thanks

  • @The-Spotlight-Kid
    @The-Spotlight-Kid 5 місяців тому +1

    Looks like a 1 or 1.5 KVA frame tranny, much cheaper & magnet field inducing than an equivalent toroidal t/former. Still, with basic components, it ain't that expensive to convert A.C. to D.C. & back to A.C. again, so I suppose you pay for the name & hi-fi public's respect for certain the $5'K jobs, the casing they threw about looks like the single most expensive part here. I'd have done the same total internal inspection as you did, I could hardly wait for the replaced cap' upgrades on this unit. I never heard any difference when I borrowed one, but the varying quality of mains counts, cheap half-wave rectifiers on cheap electrical gear puts D.C. on yer mains line, even if it's coming from a house up the road on the same street main's circuit from local sub-stations.
    P.S. there's a miss conception that electricity flows out your plug like water, there is an analogy but only relating vallances of electrons passing down a wire, but all out electrical equipment sits in-between your neutral & live wires, & as it's A.C. = in both directions, it don't matter if your the nearest house or the furthest house away from a main power or local sub power station, a polluted mains effects all houses ='y along the grid's lines. Maybe because I live rurally, very few houses around local substation, I get far less polluted (by D.C. put back on the A.C. line from half-wave rectifiers & such like, so heard no difference, I won't say which because I like the companies philosophy
    P.S. I love his companies phono stage I'd had for 18'months & loved their older pjono-stsges & pre-amps... .. .

    • @abxaudiophiles
      @abxaudiophiles  5 місяців тому +1

      Thanks for sharing. Great comments.

  • @jaysullivan9545
    @jaysullivan9545 5 місяців тому +1

    Good job. 👍 🐻

  • @patrickmccrank8414
    @patrickmccrank8414 5 місяців тому +1

    I don't see the links for caps??

  • @tomlu1816
    @tomlu1816 5 місяців тому +1

    id love to own one of these.

    • @abxaudiophiles
      @abxaudiophiles  5 місяців тому

      So good!!! Keep an eye out on the used market!! They’re there.

  • @JasonD-yc3oy
    @JasonD-yc3oy 5 місяців тому

    Watched it (how he replaced capacitors that he didn't even know what they do in the circuit) until 17:50 ... confessing it actually does nothing but s.o.

    • @abxaudiophiles
      @abxaudiophiles  5 місяців тому

      Uh, they store power… 🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @balazsbukovics3569
    @balazsbukovics3569 5 місяців тому +1

    i have Lite p100 , without this, the sound just the crap!!!!!!!!!no matters the dac or other things.

  • @davidcross890
    @davidcross890 5 місяців тому

    Ultra Clean power far beyond the utter jokes of the units up to $100k today is POSSIBLE. What I have completed offers THE Cleanest Virtually Unlimited Power for Dynamics and Hyper realism and Convincing Reality that most don't even know is possible. No one has the guts to openly and publicly via a posted UA-cam video to comparatively test against my technologies. Sadly what is offered today is a comparative utter bad joke.

    • @legione1capone
      @legione1capone 5 місяців тому +1

      Send us a review unit! We would love to hear this!

    • @davidcross890
      @davidcross890 5 місяців тому +1

      @@legione1capone are You going to be starting a UA-cam channel to technically compare audio technologies?

    • @abxaudiophiles
      @abxaudiophiles  5 місяців тому +1

      @@davidcross890 we work together. Send me an email and let’s see what’s up. James@abxaudiophiles.org. 👌👌

    • @DNSWRLD
      @DNSWRLD 5 місяців тому

      ​@@abxaudiophilesThat's why I love this channel.
      Liked and Subscribed ✔

  • @Artcore103
    @Artcore103 5 місяців тому +1

    "ABX audiophiles" - proceeds to use a bunch of superlatives and adjectives to tell us his subjective thoughts with zero ABX testing, about a product which is highly questionable from an objective standpoint. True ABX tests eliminate a LOT of the audiophile BS. When you have your amp raised up on special feet, like that matters, you know you're not dealing with an objective audiophile. Maybe the power conditioner helped, maybe it didn't, with no ABX test or measurements we will never know; all we get are subjective memory-based impressions.

  • @simonzinc-trumpetharris852
    @simonzinc-trumpetharris852 5 місяців тому +2

    Total waste of money / rip off.

    • @abxaudiophiles
      @abxaudiophiles  5 місяців тому

      Lots of people who have never experienced stuff say things like that. I used to be that way too. Would love you to share with the group your actual, in person, real time experience. Thanks. 🙏🏼

  • @mrpmj00
    @mrpmj00 5 місяців тому +2

    yep, cleaner power is a perceivable sound improvement in my system with the iFi Supanova power cable with active noise cancelling (i have 2: for Parasound 2100 preamp and Denafrips Pontus dac) and GoldenEar BRX speakers (AMT teeeters) and Apple Music lossless.
    my video ua-cam.com/video/1RFn7QTNQ8Y/v-deo.htmlsi=sFDRdaYCOUAc2ROO

  • @DNSWRLD
    @DNSWRLD 5 місяців тому +1

    I wait to hear Davidcross890 product.
    That's why i love this channel.

    • @abxaudiophiles
      @abxaudiophiles  5 місяців тому +1

      Yea, he won’t send it to us. He’s been here before. Just a blow hard most the time.