Asriel Dreemurr and Marisa Kirisame comparison

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  • @ShenronTouhou
    @ShenronTouhou 7 років тому +265

    Asriel... you typical Marisa Fan-boy

    • @luke1989
      @luke1989 6 років тому +9

      東方 Shenron this is best comment

    • @Delta-ex9yi
      @Delta-ex9yi 5 років тому +18

      Asriel is strong but his battle is easy because we have determination

    • @ToraeMoegiiro
      @ToraeMoegiiro 3 роки тому +5

      lol

    • @NuclearBirb1
      @NuclearBirb1 2 роки тому

      @@Delta-ex9yi undertale is hard
      Touhou fans be like: hugdvvfcfgcygshkbdydshvsthsvj@jjdigdygjahgírfuhogtdgu57jhhtst2277 *DIES* ÀAAAÀAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

    • @rintaroach
      @rintaroach 2 роки тому +6

      @@NuclearBirb1 have u even played touhou before

  • @tabbender1232
    @tabbender1232 7 років тому +151

    Letting the two musics play at the same time
    What a great idea

    • @SukaNekoto
      @SukaNekoto 7 років тому +6

      Didn't bother my ears too much.

    • @thorshammer7883
      @thorshammer7883 7 років тому +8

      Tabbender
      Here's a good match:
      Solaris vs Time eater vs Bill cipher vs Giygas vs Asriel dreemur vs Lavos time devourer.

  • @Mr._Sherwood
    @Mr._Sherwood 7 років тому +135

    Marisa ain't the only attack thief I see.

    • @Mr._Sherwood
      @Mr._Sherwood 3 роки тому +10

      Yeah, that's the joke. I'm saying Az aped her attacks.

    • @makaomatic7953
      @makaomatic7953 3 роки тому +5

      @@TheRobloxianBeatSabertist 🙃

    • @Hyperneosonic97
      @Hyperneosonic97 3 роки тому +15

      @@TheRobloxianBeatSabertist Marisa stole her attacks from Yuuka and Patchouli, hence why she's considered an attack thief.

    • @dracoastra3039
      @dracoastra3039 3 роки тому +3

      @@Hyperneosonic97 Which Patchouli spell did Marisa steal again?

    • @Hyperneosonic97
      @Hyperneosonic97 3 роки тому +9

      @@dracoastra3039 Love Sign "Non-Directional Laser". It was originally one of Patchouli's nonspells in EoSD.
      There's a reason it and Master Spark have the same prefix of "Love Sign".

  • @rubitch
    @rubitch 6 років тому +44

    Toby fox himself admitted that he liked Touhou

  • @kao5762
    @kao5762 7 років тому +62

    let me say ,maybe Toby fox inspired on touhou .

  • @IBeforeAExceptAfterK
    @IBeforeAExceptAfterK 4 роки тому +34

    *Left:* Final boss
    *Right:* Stage 4 (out of 6) boss.
    Let that sink in.

  • @PokemonHayley
    @PokemonHayley 5 років тому +40

    Also Asriel's multicoloured wings are little reminiscent to PC-98 Marisa's.

  • @AzuRemilia
    @AzuRemilia 6 років тому +36

    ...And then Touhoutale was born.

  • @reimudrinkingtea6290
    @reimudrinkingtea6290 3 роки тому +8

    Bit late but i see lot of comments saying Touhou copied undertale and that is NOT true because Toby fox was a fan of touhou and plus Touhou was released in 1997 and undertale in 2015 and play touhou first and you might see the references that undertale took from touhou

  • @averycreativeusername7618
    @averycreativeusername7618 8 років тому +48

    What if Undertale is a "reversed" (Seija was here) gender of Touhou characters. Yuuka is girl, Flower is boy.

  • @markandrew287
    @markandrew287 2 роки тому +9

    It's been confirmed.
    Marisa is Asriel's waifu

  • @Sevilou
    @Sevilou 6 років тому +20

    MISS MARSIEEEEEE !! ASROOOLL BOY!!

  • @averageYTuser52282
    @averageYTuser52282 2 роки тому +4

    It's a bad idea to look at these comment section

  • @Trizic_
    @Trizic_ 6 років тому +15

    I'm gonna be very honest with ya. all of the people who thinks Toby copied Touhou...listen and listen carefully...
    just because Toby is a fan of touhou. doesn't mean he copied it. also Toby was Inspired annnd is a HUGE fan of earthbound btw. so yeah...
    I'm gonna tell you what Undertale is about and the story since you guys think its a "copy."
    Also. Sometimes i just don't understand people.....
    the story of Undertale is basically these two kids name Asriel and Chara. Chara was the first fallen human to fall in the Underground. but before that, there was a war between the two races. monsters and humans. the humans won the war and sealed the monsters into the Underground. that's where Chara came in. in Mt. Ebott. Chara becomes a family with the dreemurrs. but Chara hated humanity and came up with a plan to bust the barrier with Asriel. But Asriel didn't like the plan. the plan was for Chara to kill herself and have Asriel absorb Chara's soul to become very strong. (if I can remember) what happened was. Asriel crossed the barrier and went to the village carrying Chara's dead body. When the villagers saw this. they thought Asriel killed Chara and so they attacked Asriel with everything they had. Chara wanted Asriel to kill the humans. Asriel had the power to destroy them all. but he refused to do so. there for. when he comes back to the Underground. Asriel Dies on a couple of Golden flowers. that's when Alphys wanted to see if she can save Asriel by putting Determination. but instead, Asriel just became a Soulless Golden Flower. That's when Asgore was whacked with grief and anger so he created a new rule. every human that falls down here will have their soul taken. they needed 7 human souls to cross the barrier to take back what was theirs. after the 6 human souls were taken. that's where "Frisk" comes in.
    Undertale is not meant to be a hard game. it's meant for you to make "Choices" on your own and deal with the consequences that you make. like if you do pacifist. the Bosses are less hard. but if you do Genocide the bosses are More hard because it's your punishment for killing all the monsters in the Underground. the reason why the character "Frisk" has Determination is because "We" the player are controlling them and knowing Toby. he knows that we're gonna come back no matter what even if we die a lot, we'll keep trying our best. Which is why "We" have Determination.
    Undertale is very touching and it makes you realize a lot of things. Undertale Isn't just some regular RPG game where you encounter a Monster and kill them to get exp to lvl up and get stronger... Undertale makes you think that but no.. The monsters in Undertale has Feelings, Hopes and Dreams, they talk to you, they try to become friends with you, and they have a family..... Sans said it himself. Lvl is an acronym. it stands for "Level of violence" Exp is also an acronym. it stands for "Execution points".
    which is why when you beat pacifist. Flowey says leave "them" be. let "Frisk" be happy. he's talking to us, the "Player". because Undertale is not really a regular game. it's a "Living" game with a heart. The more you Reset. The more you're torturing them without them even knowing.. in plus you're torturing Frisk because that's the character you're controlling... not to mention. when you do Genocide. all the monsters in the Underground evacuates to a safer place. wanna know what's sad? when you go to the store in Snowdin. there's a note in the shop that says. "Please don't hurt my family". you can take and steal what's in the shop. what's even worse. is that the song that plays when you're in the shop...sounds... Dead... every time when you walk after you killed all the monsters in the area. you encounter something but... *Nobody Came...*
    what's scary is that. when you beat Genocide. Chara is basically your punishment... when you try to come back to the world "YOU" destroyed. Chara ask you to give them something that Chara wants and Chara will bring the world back. but that "Something" is your Soul. if you say no. Chara will say "Then stay here for all eternity." if you say Yes you'll give it to Chara and Chara will bring it back. but the only difference is. when you try to do Pacifist. you will still get the Bad ending because you sold your soul to Chara... it's not Chara's fault. it's "YOURS". that's why Chara says "Do you think you are above Consequences?" basically Chara is saying you don't deserve a happy ending. and it's alll your fault. Chara doesn't hate monsters nor does Chara want to kill them. Chara hates Humans and want to destroy humanity not monsters... Chara is just helping you to reach the Absolute End. To give you. a Absolute Dead End. what's even WORSE. is that the Genocide ending. theirs no credits. no music. no Nothing. just a black screen with air blowing for about 10 minutes or more. because.
    *N o b o d y C a m e.*
    THE END

    • @avarixe1932
      @avarixe1932 6 років тому

      Blue Gamingz YOU DIPSHIT HAS BEEN COPYPASTING THIS TO ALMOST EVERY TOUHOU ARGUMENTS IN THIS GODDAMN VIDEO

    • @FFKonoko
      @FFKonoko 5 років тому +6

      So tldr, yeah his attacks were inspired by touhou. Toby don't mean harm by it though, but that's also how it is.

    • @bonelessmice6828
      @bonelessmice6828 2 роки тому +2

      late ass response but nobody said toby copied touhou

    • @Trizic_
      @Trizic_ 2 роки тому

      @@bonelessmice6828 Lmfao wtf? I forgot I made this long ass comment. It's a good recap of Undertale I know that much. Also at the time I remember seeing a bunch of people saying Toby copied Touhou. Otherwise I wouldn't made this long ass comment. And yes. You are extremely late my guy.

    • @bonelessmice6828
      @bonelessmice6828 2 роки тому +2

      @@Trizic_ guess those comments got buried then

  • @Buer1969
    @Buer1969 7 років тому +65

    Marisa is stronger than Asriel, accept it Undertale Fanboys

    • @JunkyX1122
      @JunkyX1122 7 років тому +17

      Cuenta Hackeada Aaactually...Not..Really. The only reason Marisa is capable of beetin' so many characters is because both parties obide by the spellcard rule.

    • @magicalsand6785
      @magicalsand6785 7 років тому +7

      Luigix1122 I agree if it was a average 1 on 1 fight marisa would not have any chance

    • @paradoxicaloutcome1007
      @paradoxicaloutcome1007 7 років тому +14

      If the Undertale characters abided by spellcard rules, I'm pretty sure we'd see more similar bullet patterns to Touhou. The main in-story reasons (Out of story reason is that Undertale isn't supposed to be focusing on the dodging) is that most Undertale characters are shooting to kill, so to say, so there is less room for more complex bullet patterns because there is more power behind every individual bullet.
      With or without spellcard rules, full power Asriel basically solos the entire Touhou universe though. Chara and Omega Flowey also get pretty close to doing so.

    • @JunkyX1122
      @JunkyX1122 7 років тому +18

      Paradoxical Outcome I don't thing Asriel's power can compare to someone like Yukari.

    • @小彭-t5n
      @小彭-t5n 7 років тому +8

      Paradoxical Outcome Another comment where Cancertale fan didn't do their research.

  • @mochimochi5933
    @mochimochi5933 7 років тому +47

    Marisa's attacks are way stronger than Asriel's.

    • @AVGyerra22
      @AVGyerra22 7 років тому +14

      Mochi Mochi
      Infinite attack and defense?
      A large goat skull that can devour timelines? (HyperGoner)

    • @mochimochi5933
      @mochimochi5933 7 років тому +9

      Josh :I alright, I may have missed the infinite attack and defense thing, but devouring timelines? Where did you get that?

    • @nixy2315
      @nixy2315 7 років тому +10

      Asriel at max power can only destroy a single timeline, not even with the Hyper Goner.

    • @lucas62885
      @lucas62885 7 років тому +7

      Mochi Mochi He devoured a timeline facing Fisk. You should watch the full pacifist ending battle.

    • @jdjGSHBFjh68827
      @jdjGSHBFjh68827 6 років тому +7

      Mochi Mochi what he meant is Asriel can destroy a single timeline at full power

  • @welloetelloe
    @welloetelloe 4 роки тому +7

    This comment section is a nightmare

  • @luke1989
    @luke1989 6 років тому +10

    Star spemmers

  • @hetohitoia560
    @hetohitoia560 4 роки тому +7

    -comment- argument section.

  • @kingbask417
    @kingbask417 7 років тому +10

    Well...
    To be fair...
    They DO have many similarities.

    • @Lui_57
      @Lui_57 4 місяці тому

      Nah, Toby Fox said that to make asriel dremurrs attacks he, well, he was a very huge fan of the great touhou, so his favorite touhou character was Marisa so asriel dremurrs attacks was based on marisas. Because that attacks that asriel used, Marisa as well used it in PC-98, in 2002, the Game shown in the right is IN or touhou 8 i think, the Game was released on 2006, and undertale in 2015 so yeah. Marisa and asriel are likely Friends, oh i think homies.

  • @ShockInazuma
    @ShockInazuma Рік тому +8

    Asriel may be a prince, but Marisa gets stronger with every foe she defeats and can adopts their attacks in a matter of seconds. Yuuka's Master Spark, anyone?

    • @glitchy3963
      @glitchy3963 Рік тому

      Asriel is a god and destroys timelines tho, but mkay

    • @ShockInazuma
      @ShockInazuma Рік тому

      @@glitchy3963 Yet he can’t even defeat a single kid. (That had the power to come back to life, I know, but still. Funny how that works.)

    • @catseer1299
      @catseer1299 11 місяців тому +1

      @@ShockInazumaasriel wasn’t trying to kill said kid, he was trying to erase all there progress so they won’t leave them.

    • @ShockInazuma
      @ShockInazuma 11 місяців тому

      @@catseer1299 He still lost to a kid even if he wasn’t trying to kill them.

    • @Lui_57
      @Lui_57 3 місяці тому

      @@ShockInazuma Marisa negs UT verse

  • @นามิจังจ๋าาา
    @นามิจังจ๋าาา 8 років тому +50

    Undertale is Copy?

    • @BlackMademoisellee
      @BlackMademoisellee 7 років тому +9

      ZenKung NiceNice basically yes

    • @kevinnathanael4872
      @kevinnathanael4872 7 років тому +2

      PastelPuff but why undertales fight asriel is better than marrisa's

    • @BlackMademoisellee
      @BlackMademoisellee 7 років тому +48

      Yenna Waldemar First of all, Marisa's fight was first (2004, for the response of why undertale is a copy) and second, IN YOUR OPINION Asriel's fight is better but in mine, Marisa is better, she has a powerful and an energetic theme; colorful attacks (pretty astounding), moments of tense when she escapes and returns; more difficulty, a beautiful and diverse danmaku, etc. Asriel just repeats his attacks even if he changes his form; and is pretty boring, i just think his battle is just for complementing the history.

    • @darkycrafting7365
      @darkycrafting7365 7 років тому +10

      All thoses people who YELL: "omg copycopy asrielyousuck!!!" , or "UNDERTALE COPY TOUHOU", seriously...
      I don't know if Toby Fox really intented to make an easter egg about that. I'm sure it's not. Anyway.
      This comparison is like: "OMG SANS=NESS ILLUMINATI CONFIRMED!!!" Or whatever you'll say or find.
      If there's NO prouf that Asriel, god of HYPERDEATH, is a copy from Marisa Kirisame, then... Don't talk at all. That's the same thing for Undertale!
      It's better to claim nothing than something we're not sure it's confirmed.
      Also: Toby Fox say that he wanted to give a tribute to Earthbound, by making this game, no?

    • @Detonexploder
      @Detonexploder 7 років тому +14

      Asriel's fight is only better the first time you play it. After that it gets boring real quick.
      You can't lose, all attacks are trivial once you've seen them 2 times, there's no repercussion to anything, and it's just way less intense in general (let's be real, just compare the attacks in this video and tell me what looks like it takes more effort, also taking into consideration that Touhou gives you less opportunities to get hit). But that makes sense because of the story and because of the type of game Undertale is.
      Marisa's fight is primarily meant to give a serious gameplay challenge. The kind of thing that you need to practice if you want to do good on it and make a good amount of progress.
      Casually, Asriel's fight is better because of importance in the story. That is probably the answer to your question if we're going by the statement that Asriel's fight is better.

  • @angelgao4937
    @angelgao4937 7 років тому +118

    Right: Lunatic Mode
    Left: Easy Mode

    • @Pakkens_Backyard
      @Pakkens_Backyard 6 років тому +9

      It's actually only Hard. Asteroid Belt on Lunatic is like eyerape.

    • @mrrp405
      @mrrp405 6 років тому +27

      "Ehh? Easy mode? Really? How lame. Only kids play on easy mode."

    • @R09128
      @R09128 6 років тому

      Yes nice comment of year

    • @yourgay5150
      @yourgay5150 5 років тому +6

      *Now I really wanna play Touhou*

    • @Delta-ex9yi
      @Delta-ex9yi 5 років тому +3

      Asriel is strong but his battle is easy because we have determination

  • @Carp69
    @Carp69 5 років тому +5

    Master spark!!!!!

  • @blue_the_boy_kisser
    @blue_the_boy_kisser Рік тому +3

    Someone should mod UT to have Touhou style movement & hitboxes.

  • @themimicfan3530
    @themimicfan3530 4 роки тому +4

    Miusic
    Asriel dreemurr : aseiel dreemurr theme
    Asriel : his theme

  • @unfunniestman
    @unfunniestman 2 місяці тому

    If Toby ever finishes Hard Mode it should definitely grant bullet hell-like attack patterns to every enemy

  • @everyoneisaweeb9298
    @everyoneisaweeb9298 7 років тому +12

    COPYGOAT

    • @5567-s7s
      @5567-s7s 7 років тому +3

      Galaxy girl Undertale was inspired by Touhou

    • @R09128
      @R09128 6 років тому

      Eeee

    • @perecastor7299
      @perecastor7299 4 роки тому

      @@R09128 wait why you don't have name ?

    • @R09128
      @R09128 4 роки тому

      @@perecastor7299 oh thank you let me know i have a 1 year old bad comment,
      also my channel have name, it's just one glitched font i think

  • @kurobot100
    @kurobot100 6 років тому +7

    Asriel is stronger than marissa because he is a Hyperdeath God
    and Marissa is only a magician

    • @rubitch
      @rubitch 6 років тому

      Honestly,how idiotic

    • @squishmachothehurricane8465
      @squishmachothehurricane8465 5 років тому

      penguinz lol let him have his opinion we all know what would happen to asriel if he had to fight Yukari or Clownpeice lol
      Edit: especially Hecatica who is confirmed to be the strongest character in touhou now

    • @rubitch
      @rubitch 5 років тому +1

      @@squishmachothehurricane8465 that isnt even a opinion,he's just blur
      and he didnt even state that it was his opinion

    • @squishmachothehurricane8465
      @squishmachothehurricane8465 5 років тому

      penguinz true but let’s hope it is :)

    • @terra6713
      @terra6713 5 років тому +3

      A bit too late, but answering...
      Hyperdeath isn't even a term.
      Marisa (now) has the Utramarine Orb Elixir and the original Occult Ball, making she a Reality Warper superior to Asriel. (Occult Ball can create/destroy multiverses and the Elixir is like Determination)

  • @rintaroach
    @rintaroach 2 роки тому +2

    Undertale fans: nO0oòOoOoo0o0o)oOOooo UndErTaLe iS hArd3sT g@mE i bEaT3d S@nS
    Touhou fans: *no*

  • @aghniaafifa1598
    @aghniaafifa1598 3 роки тому +4

    kids be like: touhou copyng undertaleeeee
    me: actually a touhou inspired undertale

  • @sweater_lover2330
    @sweater_lover2330 3 роки тому

    So if you guys like Undertale and TouHou, you should check out Sr Pelo. He is a hilarious UA-camr and has made animations of undertale and other things while including these cool easter eggs of TouHou.

  • @Gobblle_gobble
    @Gobblle_gobble 9 місяців тому

    To be fair this kid has insane determination that keeps him from death

  • @WKJW426
    @WKJW426 9 місяців тому

    Is pk Starstorm

  • @Joe-yx1gq
    @Joe-yx1gq 6 років тому

    Pleases a asirel Magalor compares plus Glacata knight

  • @mrrp405
    @mrrp405 6 років тому

    _I HOPE YOU FUCKING LIKE RAINBOWS_

  • @Joe-yx1gq
    @Joe-yx1gq 6 років тому

    Asiesl manglor soul compairson?

  • @kaku7398
    @kaku7398 6 років тому

    Lmao

  • @filipnwakor9819
    @filipnwakor9819 8 років тому

    VERY GOOD

  • @激安の殿堂-f5v
    @激安の殿堂-f5v 6 років тому

    東方の方が先ですけど

  • @doremysarchive3753
    @doremysarchive3753 3 роки тому

    I stg undertale keeps copying touhou

    • @bruhtastic4311
      @bruhtastic4311 3 роки тому +4

      No undertale was inspired by touhou and earthbound

  • @jdjGSHBFjh68827
    @jdjGSHBFjh68827 6 років тому +10

    Actually Undertale focuses more into head-on combat, thats why theres not much complex bullet hell patterns but in exchange there is high damage in every hit. Asriel does somewhere between 14 to 10 damage per hit. Asriel's attacks are pretty easy to avoid but very unpredictable, since *there are no patterns and the line of fire is shown for 1 second before disappearing* and Asriel's attacks are fast and hard to dodge like his Chaos Buster, which increases speed each interval, and his beam attacks which fires as soon as the warning markers are shown and his final attack in his God of Hyperdeath mode is near unavoidable and increases width and damage.
    The Touhou character, Marisa Kirisame, on the other hand, obeys the spellcard rules, so there are very complex bullet hell patterns and get hit by a bullet and youre down. One downside tho is Marisa's attacks are predictable, since they leave a pattern or a line of fire for a certain amount of time before getting hit like the Master Spark, it leaves a line of fire but its width is huge as an upside.
    Touhou beats Undertale in terms of complexity, Undertale beats Touhou for difficulty and Undertale beats Touhou for one good reason. *Marisa can be beaten. Asriel is immortal.*
    EDIT: im gonna just drop this in and say that this comment is super obsolete, and im cringing at it. go away lol

    • @kocahkola
      @kocahkola 6 років тому +10

      LemonadeArts OFFICIAL You are seeing this right? In terms of difficulty Marissa is definitely harder.

    • @neriwest8218
      @neriwest8218 6 років тому +6

      If asriel is immortal why did he got killed in the human village? 🤔

    • @santabaus4425
      @santabaus4425 6 років тому +3

      Ravenous Rufous! What a genius! and because Asriel was a wimpy cry boy, and thats a reason why asriel can only be beaten by emotional way because he is a weak cheater!

    • @naufaldreamer270
      @naufaldreamer270 6 років тому +1

      Asriel will die if yukari touch him

    • @neriwest8218
      @neriwest8218 6 років тому +1

      meme review i love how its really accurate lol

  • @schokokaina
    @schokokaina 5 років тому

    I'm sick of all those Touhou fanboys

    • @aapzehrsteurer9000
      @aapzehrsteurer9000 5 років тому +9

      It's essentially an Undertale x Touhou vid, what'd you expect?

    • @orphic-3766
      @orphic-3766 5 років тому +1

      @@terra6713 really now if there mature than what are you doing? Your basically not proving your point by replying and insult people who likes undertal. We get it TH fans like touhou and UT fans like undertale but it doesn't give you the right to start saying "undertale fans are not mature and they get upset when somebody talks crap about the game" just leave it alone man.

    • @battleroyale123
      @battleroyale123 3 роки тому +3

      @@orphic-3766 Its almost like UT fanboys are much more in numbers and also extremely sickening considering they said Touhou copied UT. UT started it

    • @Femmyc
      @Femmyc 3 роки тому +3

      Then,, why did you click/ tap on this video..? It’s just a comparison video if I’m not mistaken, let’s say someone said “I don’t like any undertale fans, there toxic” how would you feel? I would see it as nothing new, I understand how you would feel about touhou fans and how they hype it up to be the hardest thing on earth, it is hard- harder then sans might I add- but it doesn’t mean it’s the HARDEST thing on earth,,,

  • @eiwaa4837
    @eiwaa4837 7 років тому +4

    is touho is copying undertale??????

    • @CrimsonStudioz
      @CrimsonStudioz 7 років тому +17

      it's the other way around, marisa first appeared in touhou 02 Story of Eastern Wonderland which was rleased at 1997, 18 year before even undertale had been rleased.
      from then on out she is a staple character in the game so I think toby just been insbired by touhou it's not a bad thing, that's actuly great for touhou fans.

    • @angelgao4937
      @angelgao4937 7 років тому +6

      is undertail ripping off 2hu?

    • @CrimsonStudioz
      @CrimsonStudioz 7 років тому +2

      no just been insbired by it, I think.

    • @eiwaa4837
      @eiwaa4837 7 років тому

      OH OK

    • @karumida2013
      @karumida2013 6 років тому +3

      Toby fox has a little bit of inspiration on touhou.

  • @xenonclan8011
    @xenonclan8011 6 років тому

    Actually touhou is a copy cat