Bro Wayne does sound like Wayne but to say he one of the first original sounding rapper is crazy….. Wayne was a child rapper in an era where sounding like nobody else was an established part of actually being a rapper period….. to say he one of the last of that era is a fact but saying he’s one of the first is super crazy
Nah. . Even if birdman didn't do anything, Jay would still be more richer..... JayZ money moves is and was way more profitable than what Wayne would've done...@@JoeFindsTreasures
Lil Wayne did 100x for hip-hop than JayZ... He would come with release after release of free mixtapes like he was on some DJT level energy, Diet Cokes he be drankin I thinkin!
Compare the music boy. Jay Z got classics and rhymes nice. Wayne is one of the most sloppy rappers alive period. Plus all that autotune he need to cover up his cringy voice
@ I’m not here to change anyones opinion I have mines and your entitled too yours also Wayne didn’t always use auto tune especially his early mixtape days I grew up in Baltimore project we always bumped Wayne jay z never got any play in the hood
Yall smoking dope if you think Ji66a better than Weezy..... Wayne got more hits, got better albums and features.... Ji66a NOT BEATING Weezy in no versus yall.... stop it.
To be honestly speaking Lil Wayne not going with Jay z was the best thing for him simply cuz Jay z would have just put him on the shelf and not let him continue his career so little Wayne Dodge the bullet on that one cuz Jay z as much as he likes to seem like he's not spiteful or Petty he'll doing dirty if he had the chance
@Djnowordsneeded5900 you're probably right. But all that money really didn't help out Puff stay out and just like baby Jay z unfortunately they both have a past and it's kind of a up in the air right now. With everything that's going on with puffy it's also going to impact the rap industry really hard so I happen to think the music industry is getting ready for some really big changes and they are trying to get rid of the old gatekeepers to put new people in power I don't know I'm not a hip hop scholar nor have I ever presumed to be some intellectual when it comes to hip Hop but as far as relevance both Jay z and baby have a lot of skeletons in their closet just itching to get out I'm assuming that's why Jay and baby been so quiet but either way God bless them if they are innocent and if not then they get what they deserve same thing goes for Diddy so but as far as puffy yo that video of him kicking his girl that was hard no man should ever kick a woman when she's down nor be physically violent nevertheless it's going to be interesting
Jay z is the most overrated rapper. Hes great, but hes not as amazing as hes painted to me. Wayne has been consistent and relevant the past 25 years or more
How, you guys are terrible, this is a civil case not a criminal case and you know that. Not only she's hiding her identity the judge agreed to, this man deserve a fair process in this case to prove his innocence. Who hides their identity in a civil case for money not criminal
I'm sorry I'm from Louisiana 30 minutes from New Orleans and this is Little Wayne's place Little Wayne should at least get a chance to perform in his own town at the super bowl. ❤❤❤❤❤
I hear what ur saying and although I don’t dispute that i will say that the way wayne acted following the announcement of k dot doing it and not him is where wayne takes a major/huge L
100% Pure bullshit. The fist Super Bowl was in 1967 but having recording artists really took off in the 1990's - how many artists were selected to perform because they are 'from' the place where the Super Bowl is being held? .. MJ was selected because the show was in Ohio? .. Did Prince perform in Minnesota?. This is not the first SuperBowl performance in Louisiana.. was it a diss to Wayne when he wasnt selected to perform the half time show then? --- or is that before Jay Z and his company had affiliation with the NFL? ... Thats before Jay, so who the NFL picks to perform their halftime shows is their own business.. now that Jay is involved - Fuck This !!!.. its an Insult if Wayne isnt automatically given the half time show .. hes FROM there, this is Total disrespect !
But most importantly, he did show some class, respectfully by paying a $14 million tax bill for Wayne! That truly says that there's black love and respect there! NO ONE has done that for someone in another camp! No body!
Was it Class or in your face, I have more money than you? Having the upper hand and holding himself up higher than Wayne? Do you really think he's gonna spend 14M out of the goodness of his heart? Wayne probably had to pay him back double. Rich people don't get rich by giving away 14M. They just don't. There's more to the story we'll never know.
When the conversation of money comes up, yes, Jay-Z has more money overall, but the argument MC wise should be made about money regarding music sales only.
Wayne did make more money off of music then Jay... jay never sold records like that... now jay have more money off his business ventures but not off of music
Lil Wayne is crying along with you guys about a Super Bowl performance. Lil Wayne is better than this 20tyrs in the rap game maid millions representing him self as Birdman Jr. who ripped him off for millions. Jay Z is about business, the best rapper alive debate is irrelevant just match their careers.
Never! Wayne is definitely great, but jay z is way better. Mabye for the youth lil wayne is better, but for the true real hip hop heads, we all know Jay z the best. Thats why Jay z till this day has more money, more businesses ( does wayne even have any businesses lol?) Stand the test of time, has the hottest lady in the game on his arm, drake surpassed wayne, so... how is wayne better? Explain that? Lol
Btw I grew up on jay and just always thought he was trash 😂 and I’m from Brooklyn and I rarely listen to Wayne but if you play any of his mainstream music I know all the words 😂
I'm from the west coast and always found Jay z wack lol. I'd see fat Joe 50 Wayne Eminem all putting in Hella work then out of nowhere u just hear Jay z is the best like wtf nobody ever bump this nigga ever bro who tf say "put on that jay" 😂
Lil Wayne became the goat in 2023 when he dropped the verse on big dog, that joint was impressive plus the Tyga brand new joint and the album collab with 2 chains. All 🔥 not often do you see an artist get better and consistently deliver gems 20+ years.. Jay drop gems too but not as consistent later In the career.
@tsmith2459 what he did in the early 2000s was 🔥 but for me, it was his consistency and growth as an artist over the years that make him the goat. 2023 just solidified it all for me. With that said, if you only used his early 2000 work by itself to determine goat status, theres no way he would be in the conversation.
Wayne has been my GOAT for a lot longer than 2023. He continues to get better with age. Wayne’s made more money off of music than Jay. IMO. Respectfully.
its not possible to prove you wrong because its just your opinion that will not change which is cool. but I can tell you why some people thing EXTREMELY differently. depending on where you are from it dictates what you think about hip hop. for instance it is highly likely that you are not from New York otherwise it would be almost impossible to hear those type of words utter from your mouth(unless you moved their from down south). you said prove you wrong? well people from New York(where hip hop originated) have a much sharper sword when it comes to lyricism and raps skill especially Harlem nyc(please do not take it offensive it is not a glaze at all just observation). as a result of what i just said some people do not realize that while lil wayne is an all time great and iconic, he would get absolutely ANNIHILATED for instance in a rap battle in the url. its the same way that floyd mayweather would get destroyed in ufc. Its a different form of something that would otherwise seem to be the same but the deviation leaves you worlds apart. i. e. a ufc fighter gets in the boxing ring and gets KNOCKED OUT IN A DEVASTATING FASHION. He is clearly not the best mc or of that cloth but he is outstanding for down south spitters although most are more rythmically sound which is not a bad thing. but they always look worse in cyphers with just rap. the point? Lil wayne is very talented, but he comes from a cloth of mc that is simply not of the echelon of nyc rappers so people cannot fathom why jay -z is so heralded if they are not from nyc. what makes me say this? no I'm nothing special, the reason i say this is because I just so happen to have a rare perspective because I was born in harlem nyc until just before 10 years old. then i moved to miami for 5 years while be influenced by that culture. later i lived atlanta for many years and back in nyc several times and I have noticed the disconnect from what is actually going on. people hate new york. they are actually jealous of it, but in reality it is all hype and nothing to be jealous of because anything that new york was great for was around 2 decades ago. now, new york only copies other music and styles. the soul hip hop is not in new york and artists from new york are at a default disliked and pedestalized while held to higher standards. wayne ain't as skilled as someone like papoose. while wayne was hot dropping the carters I liked his music and also papoose who was hot in new york at the same time, but pap was clearly better. nobody from down south even heard of or knew about pap, but up north hip hop heads are just more astute and listen to EVERYTHING from every coast. so it is a lot more difficult for someone like papoose to get as popular as lil wayne although he is faar more superior and talented with his creations like the law library and hip hop police. but wayne is still great it is undeniable. so someone like jay that has reasonable doubt and the hard knock life he is on the level of goated nyc legends of the golden age like big, nas, big l and pac, and yes pac was born and grew up in harlem nyc. even the best battle rappers are from harlem nyc. the competition is the tightest in the world there. even over brooklyn since harlem is only 50 blocks but over those 50 blocks there has never been soo much hip hop history compiled. If you put wayne in a battle with the top current battle rappers he will get cooked. but he would never do it and doesn't have to because it does not sell. he def did this inspired people to get dreads and tattoo they face and bla bla bla but that is not everywhere and people do not look like that up north. and they do love wayne here he gets mad love, but nobody is dumb enough to actually say that he is the goat, the most respect is he got in new york is when he was on fire during the carter 2 no cielings period people would say that he is the hottest out right now. but hottest period? PLEASE. NOT. TOP. TEN! and although Drake got bodied he is also better and way more skilled than wayne
@@mossberg8676 Jay got paid mostly from his business ventures, not his music, though.... In the music industry, he does gain allot of revenue from her career. His ass ain't putting out shit for real these days, himself alone....
08 is right... 17 years ago, Wayne would have been a great choice. Wayne might be the most naturally talented rapper of all time. He lacks reliability and work ethic. Dude has been balling since 17 years old. just like his buddy drake. spoiled brats that have nothing to talk about but money and hoes... He can make a catchy tune and all but what else? throwing fits because he wasn't chosen. he is wasted talent, I believe he could've been better than Kenny but he doesn't want it enough. he thinks he just deserves it. the only people who relate are people in the club getting fucked up. and he's not even the best at that... future beats him in that lane easily. As for Kendrick, classic albums with entire storylines that make you think about life. deep lyrics and more commercial success than most rappers of all time, Including Wayne. reliable and powerful showmanship at every live event. Multiple number one songs and probably album of the year. He is the undeniable underdog that worked to get where he is its 2025 I hope Wayne hits the lab and gets in his bag. he is incredible but not even close as of now. Tell me how a rapper who cant recite his own lyrics compares to Kendrick
Bro you're tripping. Doesn't want it enough? Like you said since 17 he been getting better and been so consistent. PLUS ITS IN NEW ORLEANS!!! Wayne should appear at his city
@@typrice9268 its in new Orleans. most people that will be watching are not. I'll rephrase, I'm sure he wants it obviously with the whole crying about it thing. but doesn't work hard for it. making music is so easy for him he can go to the studio and recorded 3 songs with wordplay and punchlines. but they all lack substance and direction. So he's got plenty of music but its not memorable even to him. good catchy driving or club music but as a main attraction not so much. he wont even put the time in to memorise his own songs for fuck sakes. lol He can rap, but perform.. no. have you seen a Wayne performance, he isn't good at entertaining a club of hip hop fans, let alone the biggest stage that has nothing to do with hip-hop. If he did the super bowl, it would be a bad look for him, he would be a laughing stock and they would probably stay away from hip-hop in the future. this is honestly good motivation for him to put the work in and get it next time new Orleans will be watching whenever that happens i am a fan but lets be realistic.
Wayne still hitting his peak tho. It's like how you get better as you get older lol. His only issue is him working on his health. But his pen game is probably the strongest out here way above Jay Z
jay-z is aint made a good album in over a decade. The best work he did had Linkin Park on top of his shit. That's about it. Yeah, that "new york" song is a hit. That's all you got bud. Your music been dead for over a decade. Move on homie.
Love both jay-z and lil wayne..one find I learned from listening this clip is as human we have to do a better job with Word because it shows that you never know what tomorrow brings..you could block your own blessings..on life journey be good and respect your elders..its cost nothing 🙏🔥🔥🔥🔥 .
It’s always what Jay didn’t do for someone, it’s never what Jay actually did to someone. Never hear Jay saying he feels some way about someone for what they didn’t do for him.
Jay z has never been good... maybe back in the hard knock life days but other then that lil wayne crushes him in every aspect. And now , because wayne don't go to Diddy parties
If he is inspiring to people then that's your preference. Jay cannot rap for sh1t. He's a sellout and only got a name when he became a servant to the Rockefeller's and that is because they paid for the hype so please stop
a lot of ppl have spoke on this but i do believe that Lil wayne’s live act isn’t rly up to world stage level these days. just a bit too hoarse and burn out status 😅 but he is the goat
Jay Z also featured on Juvenile 400 degreez album, right off the jump off of the Hotboyz, on a track called "Ha Remix." Word is this was done to keep up with 50 Cent branching out to southern rappers/market. On the Power of the Dollar mixtape, 50 has song called "As the world turns" rapping in southern accent and features Bun B.
Hip hop is wack wackady wack those black rappers are killing my vibe and they suck big time they only talk about death violence destruction hatred toward their own black people and nothing positive or inspirational for young black boys to admire or respect just hatred toward their own people that's why there is so much killing and shooting in the inner cities amongst black people who are killing and shooting guns and destroying innocent young children's lives they don't care about the mothers who are giving birth to these black boys and trying to raise these black boys in a toxic atmosphere with jealousy and hatred toward their own people and self hatred toward their own black self.
The MTV list is trash. Fabulous should have been 3 out of the people mentioned. I’m not even talking about music sales or how much money they have. Skills only.
Kendrick is gonna bring Lil Wayne out for the performance at the Superbowl... If that doesn't happen, the powers that be threatening him not to! But I can definitely see that happening!
Im from the outside. Lookin in. Im a Fan of both. Its about business for both. I had issues, but now I understand. It's emotionally draining worrying bout others folk bouts. Now to me it's enter taining. That's what it is.
Kendrick had a better year and is better w live performances. Also, Drake and Jay lowkey never liked one another. Kendrick may use this as a bargaining chip w Wayne to get him to disown drake by performing “not like us” with k dot
After seeing this video and all the so call beefing with the back and forth subliminals and Wayne during his hardest times praising Hov and Swiss gets humbled and reminded by Jay who not to F with. Cam and Mase are spot on. Jay never forgot and pulling an ultimate power move by shutting Wayne and the CM/YM team out of the SB
This issue has a lot to do about nothing, these old rivals in their best hour striking Jay Z after the claims He dropped the whole ROC for better things
Let's be fair that came out of birdman smoke not Lil Wayne Wayne don't even talk like that he don't care He's not about money he's about to craft birdman is about money stepped all over people to get it even his own people
This is sad for our people and I'm truly not surprised. Oh cares. You never heard other people complain about who's performing at the super bowl till now. Come on my people.
Stop it….1st off the thumbnail. They “ALL” are in it for the $$. And they SHOULD BE. It’s “work”. Same thing happens in finance, engineering, education and politics. Why do we know worse people at our job of 20 years yet we poke holes in others companies. (Yes it’s a company). Grow up peeps.
Wheezy is one of the GOATS THAT NIGGA LYRICS ARE INSANE I MEAN IF IT WAS TO BE A SERIOUS ALL OUT RAP BATTLE I WOULD PAY TOP DOLLAR FOR THAT SHOW POINT BLANK PERIOD BUT WAYNE I THINK WOULD AIR JIGGA OUT NOT ONLY CAUSE WAYNE IS 12YRS HIS JUNIOR WAYNE LYRICS ARE CRAZY ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU IDOLIZE A RAPPER AND OR SINGER PERIOD 😊
Im iglad wayne never went to bigg lipps. I remember one time J heard lil Wayne rap and said " I gotta watch out for this one" in a interview. He been jealous of wayne and still IS
These beefs are designed to boost album sales, and get y'alls money. Y'all arguing over who won, who's better, who's the best, while everybody involved in these situations is laughing all the way to the bank
Wayne was one of the first really original sounding dudes I came across as a kid and he’s been in my tops ever since.
Bro Wayne does sound like Wayne but to say he one of the first original sounding rapper is crazy….. Wayne was a child rapper in an era where sounding like nobody else was an established part of actually being a rapper period….. to say he one of the last of that era is a fact but saying he’s one of the first is super crazy
You did say that you came across and I can understand that my bad for reacting to the comment before I thoroughly read it
@MichealAnderson-yu8mr as I said, “first original that I’d heard as a kid.” I wasn’t generalizing about the whole scene or industry, just personal.
@@MichaelAnderson-yu8mr no worries, it happens 🤘
JayZ is way richer but wayne has people's heart gained
Soft ass comment
Only richer bc Birdman got all his bread
Nah. . Even if birdman didn't do anything, Jay would still be more richer..... JayZ money moves is and was way more profitable than what Wayne would've done...@@JoeFindsTreasures
Lil Wayne did 100x for hip-hop than JayZ... He would come with release after release of free mixtapes like he was on some DJT level energy, Diet Cokes he be drankin I thinkin!
If Wayne signed with Jay, Jay would have sabotaged Wayne's career like he did with Nas
Facts💯💯💯💯
Nas never signed to Jay. Check your facts brother as much as I agree with your statement.
@@anelel.p.takane7122nas was on def jam when it was Jay-Z's
Nas? U sure? Cause he dropped 4 albums last year alone and Jay hasnt been heard from since the 2010’s
@@Booker.Z.Watching-tons nas no longer on def jam tho lol
Wayne is THAT DUDE. He has multiple style and could still outrap most of these dudes today. Put some respect on his name.
Wayne not even a top 10 contender boy 😂
he can out rap anyone, still. On a good day for sure.
Can he out rap on the best of them on any average day or on his worst?
@@Adsterr Nah
@@thebestninja80 nope
Wayne in his prime had crazy energy jay z was always boring af when it came to his music
Compare the music boy. Jay Z got classics and rhymes nice. Wayne is one of the most sloppy rappers alive period. Plus all that autotune he need to cover up his cringy voice
@ I’m not here to change anyones opinion I have mines and your entitled too yours also Wayne didn’t always use auto tune especially his early mixtape days I grew up in Baltimore project we always bumped Wayne jay z never got any play in the hood
Wayne will never make D'evils, Dead Presidents or just PSA. You don't know watchu talking about
Agreed 100% . Jay Z sounds like a muppet
@@TheRealSugeKnight wayne the best punch in rapper, aka the goat.
Yall smoking dope if you think Ji66a better than Weezy.....
Wayne got more hits, got better albums and features.... Ji66a NOT BEATING Weezy in no versus yall.... stop it.
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Thank you!! 💯
Weezy music doesn't stand the test of time, but jay z music does😂
On Gawd 💯💯🤞🏽🤞🏽🤞🏽
You smoking dope Lil Wayne is way better than Jay Z
To be honestly speaking Lil Wayne not going with Jay z was the best thing for him simply cuz Jay z would have just put him on the shelf and not let him continue his career so little Wayne Dodge the bullet on that one cuz Jay z as much as he likes to seem like he's not spiteful or Petty he'll doing dirty if he had the chance
Now bird man going to fall,Lil Wayne can't touch Jay Z on money
@Djnowordsneeded5900 you're probably right. But all that money really didn't help out Puff stay out and just like baby Jay z unfortunately they both have a past and it's kind of a up in the air right now. With everything that's going on with puffy it's also going to impact the rap industry really hard so I happen to think the music industry is getting ready for some really big changes and they are trying to get rid of the old gatekeepers to put new people in power I don't know I'm not a hip hop scholar nor have I ever presumed to be some intellectual when it comes to hip Hop but as far as relevance both Jay z and baby have a lot of skeletons in their closet just itching to get out I'm assuming that's why Jay and baby been so quiet but either way God bless them if they are innocent and if not then they get what they deserve same thing goes for Diddy so but as far as puffy yo that video of him kicking his girl that was hard no man should ever kick a woman when she's down nor be physically violent nevertheless it's going to be interesting
Superboul or not kendrick can never hold a candle to the storm lil Wayne is. Period.
FACTS BROSKI 😂
GAWK GAWK HUAK TUH WAYNE DEEYUCK (whhoooares) jk 😆
You talking nonsense.
Not true
Jay z is the most overrated rapper. Hes great, but hes not as amazing as hes painted to me. Wayne has been consistent and relevant the past 25 years or more
All relevant means is popular. Drake is more popular than a lot of people, but he's not the best rapper ever.
Wow!!! Crazy...
Money bought JZ's awards but it won't do him no good in prison 😂😂😂
@@LottieOfWales At least he would have Diddy with him. 😂😂
Clearly you've never been in a prison environment
Jay Z is being sued. Prison isn’t an option 🫵 🤡
How, you guys are terrible, this is a civil case not a criminal case and you know that.
Not only she's hiding her identity the judge agreed to, this man deserve a fair process in this case to prove his innocence. Who hides their identity in a civil case for money not criminal
You just heard 50 can't say that and running with it. Yall so lame
I'm sorry I'm from Louisiana 30 minutes from New Orleans and this is Little Wayne's place Little Wayne should at least get a chance to perform in his own town at the super bowl. ❤❤❤❤❤
I hear what ur saying and although I don’t dispute that i will say that the way wayne acted following the announcement of k dot doing it and not him is where wayne takes a major/huge L
100% Pure bullshit. The fist Super Bowl was in 1967 but having recording artists really took off in the 1990's - how many artists were selected to perform because they are 'from' the place where the Super Bowl is being held? .. MJ was selected because the show was in Ohio? .. Did Prince perform in Minnesota?. This is not the first SuperBowl performance in Louisiana.. was it a diss to Wayne when he wasnt selected to perform the half time show then? --- or is that before Jay Z and his company had affiliation with the NFL? ... Thats before Jay, so who the NFL picks to perform their halftime shows is their own business.. now that Jay is involved - Fuck This !!!.. its an Insult if Wayne isnt automatically given the half time show .. hes FROM there, this is Total disrespect !
But most importantly, he did show some class, respectfully by paying a $14 million tax bill for Wayne! That truly says that there's black love and respect there! NO ONE has done that for someone in another camp! No body!
After paying his taxes, Wayne sold his catalog. Something is off
I feel that if you weren't there to witness it yourself, you really don't know.its whatever you choose to believe.
Yea Imma need more context on this one. I don't see J paying 14mi out of the "kindness" of his heart
Was it Class or in your face, I have more money than you? Having the upper hand and holding himself up higher than Wayne? Do you really think he's gonna spend 14M out of the goodness of his heart? Wayne probably had to pay him back double.
Rich people don't get rich by giving away 14M. They just don't. There's more to the story we'll never know.
When the conversation of money comes up, yes, Jay-Z has more money overall, but the argument MC wise should be made about money regarding music sales only.
Exactly....
Jay z did not make all his money from rapping. He has a business mind.
Wayne made most of his money from rapping.
@victorosong two different arguments, and I made mine pretty clear in my message.
@@victorosong How did he get the money to do business?
Wayne did make more money off of music then Jay... jay never sold records like that... now jay have more money off his business ventures but not off of music
If Wayne made all that money off of his music, why did he have Jay Z helping him with them taxes.
birdman bruh
He did but just not internationally like Wayne 50 n M
Wayne didn’t own his masters. HOV does. You sound dumb ngl
Facts!
Even at 12 he had flow lil Wayne will always be at the top end of story
Well Lil Wayne ain't wrong Jay z wants money that it we all know who the best is Lil Wayne
Jay Z
Lil Wayne is crying along with you guys about a Super Bowl performance. Lil Wayne is better than this 20tyrs in the rap game maid millions representing him self as Birdman Jr. who ripped him off for millions. Jay Z is about business, the best rapper alive debate is irrelevant just match their careers.
Never! Wayne is definitely great, but jay z is way better. Mabye for the youth lil wayne is better, but for the true real hip hop heads, we all know Jay z the best. Thats why Jay z till this day has more money, more businesses ( does wayne even have any businesses lol?) Stand the test of time, has the hottest lady in the game on his arm, drake surpassed wayne, so... how is wayne better? Explain that? Lol
Lil wayne was fire the old wayne , this knew lean an drugged out wayne naw
@@redcrimson1028 nah man, lil wayne got better rhymes and wordplay overall. They the best punch in rappers, and i dont see writers as the best.
Jay z always wanted to be seen as the best rapper alive. He waited for big L & biggie to pass to say it.
Btw I grew up on jay and just always thought he was trash 😂 and I’m from Brooklyn and I rarely listen to Wayne but if you play any of his mainstream music I know all the words 😂
Also from bk Flatbush and I agree 😂
I'm from the west coast and always found Jay z wack lol. I'd see fat Joe 50 Wayne Eminem all putting in Hella work then out of nowhere u just hear Jay z is the best like wtf nobody ever bump this nigga ever bro who tf say "put on that jay" 😂
Because you're a bird.
You buggin.... Wow!
Wayne don't amplify his wealth. So respect that dude. Hes explosive underground. He doesn't like talking about his wealth
Wayne is the goat of hiphop
Im often annoyed that we live in a world with the jay z's but not 2pac. Always missed 🐐
Lil Wayne became the goat in 2023 when he dropped the verse on big dog, that joint was impressive plus the Tyga brand new joint and the album collab with 2 chains. All 🔥 not often do you see an artist get better and consistently deliver gems 20+ years.. Jay drop gems too but not as consistent later In the career.
Huh! He been the goat since the early 200Os
@tsmith2459 what he did in the early 2000s was 🔥 but for me, it was his consistency and growth as an artist over the years that make him the goat. 2023 just solidified it all for me. With that said, if you only used his early 2000 work by itself to determine goat status, theres no way he would be in the conversation.
Wayne has been my GOAT for a lot longer than 2023. He continues to get better with age. Wayne’s made more money off of music than Jay. IMO. Respectfully.
This must be a Gen Alpha talking shit again
JZ does not drop any hits his washed up ass
lil wayne lyrically. rhythmically. creatively. is ages ahead of jay z. prove me wrong. i dont know anybody bumping jay z hard like that.
its not possible to prove you wrong because its just your opinion that will not change which is cool. but I can tell you why some people thing EXTREMELY differently.
depending on where you are from it dictates what you think about hip hop. for instance it is highly likely that you are not from New York otherwise it would be almost impossible to hear those type of words utter from your mouth(unless you moved their from down south).
you said prove you wrong? well people from New York(where hip hop originated) have a much sharper sword when it comes to lyricism and raps skill especially Harlem nyc(please do not take it offensive it is not a glaze at all just observation).
as a result of what i just said some people do not realize that while lil wayne is an all time great and iconic, he would get absolutely ANNIHILATED for instance in a rap battle in the url. its the same way that floyd mayweather would get destroyed in ufc. Its a different form of something that would otherwise seem to be the same but the deviation leaves you worlds apart. i. e. a ufc fighter gets in the boxing ring and gets KNOCKED OUT IN A DEVASTATING FASHION. He is clearly not the best mc or of that cloth but he is outstanding for down south spitters although most are more rythmically sound which is not a bad thing. but they always look worse in cyphers with just rap.
the point? Lil wayne is very talented, but he comes from a cloth of mc that is simply not of the echelon of nyc rappers so people cannot fathom why jay -z is so heralded if they are not from nyc.
what makes me say this? no I'm nothing special, the reason i say this is because I just so happen to have a rare perspective because I was born in harlem nyc until just before 10 years old. then i moved to miami for 5 years while be influenced by that culture. later i lived atlanta for many years and back in nyc several times and I have noticed the disconnect from what is actually going on.
people hate new york. they are actually jealous of it, but in reality it is all hype and nothing to be jealous of because anything that new york was great for was around 2 decades ago. now, new york only copies other music and styles. the soul hip hop is not in new york and artists from new york are at a default disliked and pedestalized while held to higher standards.
wayne ain't as skilled as someone like papoose. while wayne was hot dropping the carters I liked his music and also papoose who was hot in new york at the same time, but pap was clearly better. nobody from down south even heard of or knew about pap, but up north hip hop heads are just more astute and listen to EVERYTHING from every coast. so it is a lot more difficult for someone like papoose to get as popular as lil wayne although he is faar more superior and talented with his creations like the law library and hip hop police. but wayne is still great it is undeniable.
so someone like jay that has reasonable doubt and the hard knock life he is on the level of goated nyc legends of the golden age like big, nas, big l and pac, and yes pac was born and grew up in harlem nyc.
even the best battle rappers are from harlem nyc. the competition is the tightest in the world there. even over brooklyn since harlem is only 50 blocks but over those 50 blocks there has never been soo much hip hop history compiled.
If you put wayne in a battle with the top current battle rappers he will get cooked. but he would never do it and doesn't have to because it does not sell. he def did this inspired people to get dreads and tattoo they face and bla bla bla but that is not everywhere and people do not look like that up north. and they do love wayne here he gets mad love, but nobody is dumb enough to actually say that he is the goat, the most respect is he got in new york is when he was on fire during the carter 2 no cielings period people would say that he is the hottest out right now. but hottest period? PLEASE. NOT. TOP. TEN! and although Drake got bodied he is also better and way more skilled than wayne
The inspired can't beat the inspiration....🤷🏻♂️
When did Wayne say what’s in the caption of the video ? I watch the whole thing …cut it out
He said it i cant remember the song though
Its a song on the carter 4 i think
That verse in forever was sick!
Ctfu facts 💯 bro bro
"The best rapper alive, since the best rapper retired" was not a shot.
At that time Wayne was giving Jay props.
They didnt have beef.
Idk where these MF’s get these lies from🤷🏾♂️ or do they just make 💩 up?
He really made alot of Money off Beyonce. Beyonce brought home the bank
You are outta your mind if you think that's a fact
Y’all will say anything. Jay has always been richer than Beyoncé. There net worth is night and day. Do some research
@@mossberg8676 Jay got paid mostly from his business ventures, not his music, though.... In the music industry, he does gain allot of revenue from her career. His ass ain't putting out shit for real these days, himself alone....
jay makes no money off B! foh
He got more money than beyonce fool
TUNECHI IS THE 🐐 BEST RAPPER ALIVE IMO💯🫶🏿
The brokest goat😂
Not
Debatable but respectable.
Facts … still too this day
Tha Carter 3 era and Wayne's '08 run was just special. And y'all keep comparing Kendrick to this man. 😒
08 is right... 17 years ago, Wayne would have been a great choice.
Wayne might be the most naturally talented rapper of all time.
He lacks reliability and work ethic.
Dude has been balling since 17 years old.
just like his buddy drake. spoiled brats that have nothing to talk about but money and hoes...
He can make a catchy tune and all but what else?
throwing fits because he wasn't chosen. he is wasted talent, I believe he could've been better than Kenny but he doesn't want it enough. he thinks he just deserves it.
the only people who relate are people in the club getting fucked up. and he's not even the best at that... future beats him in that lane easily.
As for Kendrick, classic albums with entire storylines that make you think about life.
deep lyrics and more commercial success than most rappers of all time, Including Wayne.
reliable and powerful showmanship at every live event. Multiple number one songs and probably album of the year.
He is the undeniable underdog that worked to get where he is
its 2025
I hope Wayne hits the lab and gets in his bag.
he is incredible but not even close as of now.
Tell me how a rapper who cant recite his own lyrics compares to Kendrick
Bro you're tripping. Doesn't want it enough? Like you said since 17 he been getting better and been so consistent. PLUS ITS IN NEW ORLEANS!!! Wayne should appear at his city
@@typrice9268 its in new Orleans. most people that will be watching are not.
I'll rephrase, I'm sure he wants it obviously with the whole crying about it thing. but doesn't work hard for it. making music is so easy for him he can go to the studio and recorded 3 songs with wordplay and punchlines. but they all lack substance and direction.
So he's got plenty of music but its not memorable even to him.
good catchy driving or club music but as a main attraction not so much. he wont even put the time in to memorise his own songs for fuck sakes. lol
He can rap, but perform.. no.
have you seen a Wayne performance, he isn't good at entertaining a club of hip hop fans, let alone the biggest stage that has nothing to do with hip-hop. If he did the super bowl, it would be a bad look for him, he would be a laughing stock and they would probably stay away from hip-hop in the future.
this is honestly good motivation for him to put the work in and get it next time new Orleans will be watching whenever that happens i am a fan but lets be realistic.
@@typrice9268 You realise every one of them started that young right. all he knows is success he has no reason to work for shit
Jay has always seemed sketchy to me
He's a rapper with clout
He was a crack dealer just got smart enough to change the game but it's still A Game
It’s called a SCRIPT bruh! The entertainment business is a business most of all and 15 to 20 percent organic.
Called him out of respect? That always gets me. He know wat he was doin. He was tryna start dissension in Wayne's camp
It want be another lil Wayne he was a head of his time n still nobody can take his title in this this time it's January 25
Wayne still hitting his peak tho. It's like how you get better as you get older lol. His only issue is him working on his health. But his pen game is probably the strongest out here way above Jay Z
Wayne doesn’t write
There's no pen game..... Jay Z and B I G started the no pen no pad in the booth .... JayZ inspired Wayne to no write in the booth
A crazy year much love to both of you guys 💗💗💗💗💗💗
He's in it for the money Your group is literally called Cash money and Young Mula Your hit song was bling bling
Lmao yep Cash Money Millionaires
Ren is much better, genuine talent, and not corrupted by the industry
Boring.. Ren is a snoozefest.
♥️Lil Wayne is Goat 🐐💯👊🏾✊🏿
Thanks for this video definitely make sense ‼️💕
Whoever this dude is, he’s spewing LIES
That would be fire if Kendrick bring out Wayne for Super Bowl everybody would win at end of day 🤷🏾♀️
Wayne The 🐐🌠
I used to think Jay was that dude, far too many people talking negative n coincidences of deaths around him n puff
The beef was all a publicity stunt.
Didn't Jay-Z buy Wayne out of a bad contract situation?
Lil Wayne should have been a part of that show.
jay-z is aint made a good album in over a decade. The best work he did had Linkin Park on top of his shit. That's about it. Yeah, that "new york" song is a hit. That's all you got bud. Your music been dead for over a decade. Move on homie.
He actually stole that Linkin Park idea from Kanye West. Although, I think 4:44 ain't bad. But 50 says it's golf cart music. 😂😂😂
don’t matter he’s the best. no rapper does verses in one take with no notebook foh
@shelbykhan6198 Isn't that what Wayne does?
Love both jay-z and lil wayne..one find I learned from listening this clip is as human we have to do a better job with Word because it shows that you never know what tomorrow brings..you could block your own blessings..on life journey be good and respect your elders..its cost nothing 🙏🔥🔥🔥🔥
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JZ best rapper alive 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
In His Dreams 🛌
I feel like J8ight is more prolific and consistent than both of these guys.
It’s always what Jay didn’t do for someone, it’s never what Jay actually did to someone. Never hear Jay saying he feels some way about someone for what they didn’t do for him.
Just the comment I was looking for❤
Jay z has never been good... maybe back in the hard knock life days but other then that lil wayne crushes him in every aspect. And now , because wayne don't go to Diddy parties
"I'ma Hustler Baby, I Just Want You To Know"
Hate it or love it jay on top
My ass😂
Idk what is wrong with people ears..... Jay can't rap, no flow and don't have "bars". Wayne is a legend, his flow and bars are the best
🧢 jay z 140 million albums sold to lil Wayne 120 million sold …… stop with this nonsense 🤷🏽♂️
You buggin.... The inspired can't be better than the inspiration.... It is what it is
If he is inspiring to people then that's your preference. Jay cannot rap for sh1t. He's a sellout and only got a name when he became a servant to the Rockefeller's and that is because they paid for the hype so please stop
a lot of ppl have spoke on this but i do believe that Lil wayne’s live act isn’t rly up to world stage level these days. just a bit too hoarse and burn out status 😅 but he is the goat
Jay Z also featured on Juvenile 400 degreez album, right off the jump off of the Hotboyz, on a track called "Ha Remix." Word is this was done to keep up with 50 Cent branching out to southern rappers/market. On the Power of the Dollar mixtape, 50 has song called "As the world turns" rapping in southern accent and features Bun B.
Hip hop is wack wackady wack those black rappers are killing my vibe and they suck big time they only talk about death violence destruction hatred toward their own black people and nothing positive or inspirational for young black boys to admire or respect just hatred toward their own people that's why there is so much killing and shooting in the inner cities amongst black people who are killing and shooting guns and destroying innocent young children's lives they don't care about the mothers who are giving birth to these black boys and trying to raise these black boys in a toxic atmosphere with jealousy and hatred toward their own people and self hatred toward their own black self.
He forced his self on that song And the remix was not on the original CD
Why can't Wayne and Kendrick do the Halftime show together? That could be great!
Jay and Puff wrote Boys, Boys, Boys.. Then had to change it to Girls for the album!
Lmao I need proof so I can go throw it in everybody face that’s a Jay z fan 🤣🤣🤣
We vote with our dollars jz. Instead of looking at bank account look at record sales
The MTV list is trash. Fabulous should have been 3 out of the people mentioned. I’m not even talking about music sales or how much money they have. Skills only.
FAB IS A LYRICAL BEAST!! Sooooo UNDERRATED!!
The nigga is too nice & he knows it too.
Fab is God tier lyrically. Like, on another level lyrically.
Kendrick is gonna bring Lil Wayne out for the performance at the Superbowl... If that doesn't happen, the powers that be threatening him not to! But I can definitely see that happening!
Lil Wayne is not the best ,it rappers that's not mainstream better than Wayne or Gay-z come people
Im from the outside. Lookin in. Im a Fan of both. Its about business for both. I had issues, but now I understand. It's emotionally draining worrying bout others folk bouts. Now to me it's enter taining. That's what it is.
They're both equally great at their styles no beef I don't know why they have to compare it's like two different hemispheres
Bird 🦅 Man 💯👊🏾✊🏿❤
Kendrick had a better year and is better w live performances. Also, Drake and Jay lowkey never liked one another. Kendrick may use this as a bargaining chip w Wayne to get him to disown drake by performing “not like us” with k dot
Whats up with Mr.Carter? Kinda prove beef was fake for dey both 2 make currency
After seeing this video and all the so call beefing with the back and forth subliminals and Wayne during his hardest times praising Hov and Swiss gets humbled and reminded by Jay who not to F with. Cam and Mase are spot on. Jay never forgot and pulling an ultimate power move by shutting Wayne and the CM/YM team out of the SB
This issue has a lot to do about nothing, these old rivals in their best hour striking Jay Z after the claims He dropped the whole ROC for better things
What does SB mean ?
There's a lot of fluff in this video...
😂
The prefix was all jayz beats lets get that clear
JZ is a 🤡
🐝 is a🤠joke 👎🏾
The best rapper died in 1996 get your hands of it. Tupac is still better than any rapper.
The best rapper died on March 9, 1997
The best rapper is still alive! Nas
Biggie>tupac
Biggie 97***
Lol....far from it. Pac was good...but: RAKIM, BDK, KRS, Royce, Guru, Masta Ace, Kendrick, LUX, Nas...want me to continue?
All Good N Tha Hood Hip Hop Lyrical legends. 🎈
Wayne is the best
You repeated three of the topics/video inserts 2 times each in your video. Please don't.
Jay didn't pick Kendrick for the Bowl! Wayne's own city did. Blame it on Drake.
Weezy SQAD - Ether Remix?
Jay's retort about Beyonce gettin kidnapped is weak. It didnt even rhyme. 😅😂
Whole video is untrue. Wayne said Jay paid his taxes
Whoever made it is just tossing around LIES
Let's be fair that came out of birdman smoke not Lil Wayne Wayne don't even talk like that he don't care He's not about money he's about to craft birdman is about money stepped all over people to get it even his own people
Since when did the artist from that state perform at the Super Bowl
Wayne isn’t just any other artist…
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Being in a position to make the decision is the real win. Jay paying awaynes taxes and not Baby? What are we even comparing here smh
You don't even have use Wayne, but to have the Super Bowl there and not have any Louisiana artists is disrespectful to their entire culture.
This is sad for our people and I'm truly not surprised. Oh cares. You never heard other people complain about who's performing at the super bowl till now. Come on my people.
Stop it….1st off the thumbnail. They “ALL” are in it for the $$. And they SHOULD BE. It’s “work”. Same thing happens in finance, engineering, education and politics. Why do we know worse people at our job of 20 years yet we poke holes in others companies. (Yes it’s a company). Grow up peeps.
JayZ has been making money for bloggers, UA-camrs and the like for decades. They will never stop calling his name.
First time they worked together?
They was working together the whole time!
Beef = $ale$
Waynes camp should be in charge
Wheezy is one of the GOATS THAT NIGGA LYRICS ARE INSANE I MEAN IF IT WAS TO BE A SERIOUS ALL OUT RAP BATTLE I WOULD PAY TOP DOLLAR FOR THAT SHOW POINT BLANK PERIOD BUT WAYNE I THINK WOULD AIR JIGGA OUT NOT ONLY CAUSE WAYNE IS 12YRS HIS JUNIOR WAYNE LYRICS ARE CRAZY ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU IDOLIZE A RAPPER AND OR SINGER PERIOD 😊
Im iglad wayne never went to bigg lipps. I remember one time J heard lil Wayne rap and said " I gotta watch out for this one" in a interview. He been jealous of wayne and still IS
You didn't even mention how Jay-Z dissed Wayne while featuring on his track Mr Carter
Jay just showed him what it was on that track. No dissing
Jay bought out birdman to tank wayne then ascend as a hero
20:50
20:40
American going crazy 😂😂 still luv drake
These beefs are designed to boost album sales, and get y'alls money. Y'all arguing over who won, who's better, who's the best, while everybody involved in these situations is laughing all the way to the bank
I do think that Wayne should be the one performing. It's confusing b/c Jay paid Wayne's 14 million dollar debt.
Wait are Camron and mase’s voices altered or what???? 😳😳😳😳
Jay had better production, Wayne had better writers! P.S., both of them had writers.
😂😂😂😂
Why we just can’t say, two of the best rappers alive 🤷🏽♂️
Because jay trash 😂
He son looks just like him JZ is a messy man . Ramiro even raps like JZ
I like Lil Wayne more but saying he is a better lyricist than Jay Z is a straight lie
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