you are cool. most of us knew! keep up good work. i have a similiar and VARIED opinion on 'Raid". The drug flow needs to be tackled!!! Head on. There is alot about this 'RAID' we dont know/understand. At this point I support Noboa and give him benefit of doubt. Crime in Mexico is skyrocketing. We dont want Ecuador heading that way. . thanks for presentation. Appreciate you.
@@FallofftheMap no trap my friends! After living 10 years of socialism in Ecuador I learned that socialists won't defend anything but their interests and that is exactly what the president of Mexico is doing! He doesn't care about patriotism! If he got this posture is because there is something behind that is going to affect him! Let's remember that the DEA is already investing the president of Mexico for having realitions with the Cartels! And he is already crying because the resolutions of the Organization of American States was "too soft".
@@robertozc9827 I agree with you. My point about Naboa falling into a trap is that I think there were better ways to capture Glass. I don’t think Naboa fully understood the consequences of raiding the embassy and how it will negatively impact Ecuador for many years. Regardless of what leaders are saying publicly about it, what matters more is what the various diplomats think. Diplomats around the world are angry, and these are the people that do the work behind the scenes. Think of them as like the people that cook your food in a restaurant. You don’t want them to hate you. They might be friendly to your face but they’ll do terrible things to your food.
From a legal and diplomatic standpoint, this is one of the worst possible decisions the president could have made. Hopefully there is a diplomatic resolution to this situation.
@@FallofftheMap There is no way that Noboa did this without asking the USA, in my opinion. AMLO is a narc0, a lot of guilty politicians are living now in Mexico.
I do not think that this will have an effect on Noboa's support. I also, do not think Ecuador's major trade partners will do anything. China would probably do the same thing if a criminal was hiding in their own country. China cares about one thing, business. I agree that the Mexican government is known for supporting corruption, and they need to clean up their act. Trade is great, but Mexico has exported crime to Ecuador.
Not that this area is without its problems and risks, but I'm so glad were further down south. We started in Guatemala and the further south we have gone the more we like it. I hope Ecuador can work its way through these troubles.
I’m fairly confident Ecuador will get through these problems and be stronger for it. However, if things fall apart here Paraguay is at the top of my list for a back up plan. Really, I’ve zeroed in on either Paraguay, or northern Cyprus.
My opinion is that Naboa chose the wrong way to to do the right thing. Glass needed to be arrested before he could escape the country, but he did not need to be arrested inside the embassy in violation of the Vienna Convention.
Messy situation. Doesn't look good for Mexico not using diplomatic channels as much as Ecuador to enact a handover. You explained some of the nuances of Latin politics well here brother.
Can you provide any explanation to support what you are saying? From my prospective, Mexico is the wealthiest nation in Latin America, but due to corruption and arrogance is squandering what international influence it once had and becoming a joke around the world. Meanwhile, Ecuador is one of the smallest and poorest nations fighting an existential threat against the cartels, and yet diplomatically is punching way above its weight. Back up your words with something other than what you feel?
@@FallofftheMap This is not about feelings but facts. Mexican President made a similar between the last Ecuadorian election murder of one candidate and how that situation affected the final result to the benefit of one of the parties who happened to be the most affected by such a situation. In Mexico, a couple of weeks ago, a candidate running for a small City was murdered. The local government was trying to make the same Ecuador did in Mexico, trying to affect the entire elections that will be held on June 2nd (the largest elections in Mexican history). AMLO NEVER insulted the current President of Ecuador, never accused him of being responsible for the situation, never emitted any opinion about him or the situation. He only spoke the facts. In any case, if Ecuador had something to complain about, they skipped all diplomatic procedures. The same happened with the asylum of Glas granted by Mexico after 4 months of investigation and several diplomatic tramits. You seem to believe that the current Mexican government is corrupt. Maybe you only watch specific media and learn about partial and manipulative Media. Emmiting opinions without contrasting information sources, especially if you have no idea of Latin American cultures is like saying that all Americans, Canadians, and UK citizens are ignorant, and drug addicts. It is disrespectful.
Hello . In case of Peru it was to recover ( not to kick down the doors ) of the Japanese Embassy taken by MRTA ( guerrilla movement ) . It is considered one of the best rescue of prisoners of the World. It was very good planned by Alberto Fujimori . This was also the last attacked made by MRTA in Peru. The main leadership of this terror organization was finally defeated. Its name is Operacion Chavin de Huantar. I invite you to see a video about this sucessful rescue of kidnapped -> """ Chavin de Huantar """ in the youtube channel "peruvian armed forces" . We peruvians are 100% with Ecuador. Lopez Obrador has a very bad reputation of awful intervention in the latin america's government. He did it with Peru, but we declared himself as persona-no-grata what is a very bad label used by governments in the World.
I think that if USA support Ecuador, then the sanctions are going to be mild, I think. But neither Biden or Trump are on the path of supporting latin-america countries. Amlo has a video online where he is supporting the Chapo Guzman's mother He is saying "ya recibí su carta" , I already received your letter". After this meeting, His mother was allowed to enter USA and visit his son into high-security-jail. The Amlo's family has suddenly become rich.
As we would say in the Marine Corps, 'Ecuador screwed the pooch on this one." I am a Naboa , but I don't believe that the "juice was worth the squeeze" on this. Given the history between the Correístas and the anti-Correístas, I understand that this would seem like a victory against corruption and bribery (not as though that has not been inherent in Ecuadorian politics), but in this case the cost was too high - the tradeoff wasn't worth it. As Ecuador has been seeking support against the cartels to combat the internal crime, this breach of diplomatic protocol is marking it as a pariah (and understandably so). As a resident, I am curious (and anxious) to see how this will work out. The one nation that cannot condemn Ecuador for this breach of the Vienna Convention is Israel, which bombed the Iranian embassy compound in Damascus days ago.
The cartels on both sides are a struggle politically to deal with. I’m a Texan so border issues are near and dear especially with my elderly parents in the smuggling areas of west Texas now. The cartels are everywhere unfortunately but hopefully this was an isolated incident that may have been better to ask for forgiveness than permission. At least Ecuador’s president did something instead of absolutely nothing.
Yeah, I’m starting to come around to this point of view, though I’m still really concerned about the mood and sentiment of diplomats around the world. Pissing off the diplomatic community is sort of like pissing off the cooks at a restaurant but on an international scale. Your waiter will still be nice to your face, but behind the scenes terrible things are happening.
Well my friend, currently President Noboa has over 60% of popularity. Glas is where he belongs. And Correa is not in ppwer right, he is shitting his pants because Glas would open his mouth and throw every body under the bus. I would love to see that!
I hope it plays out like that, I hope the evidence is so overwhelming the Belgium agrees to extradite Correa, but I think it’s much more likely that Glass will be killed in prison to prevent him from taking.
@@FallofftheMap let me tell you something. Right now, in the courts of Miami, the former Comptroller of Ecuador is been processed for getting dirty money into Florida, and guess who has been already mentioned about Odebretch bribery for 13 million dollars? Jorge Glas! A lot of croocked mf's are going to fall after this!!!
Excellent video. I do believe Ecuador did have a legal basis for entering and taking Glas. The Vienna Convention does state something to the affect that it is unlawful to harbor anyone who is indicted or convicted of a crime before seeking refuge.
Yes, but the Vienna Convention also stipulates that the remedy is the international criminal court, not committing a second violation of the convention by raiding the embassy. Unfortunately, waiting for the ICC would have allowed Glass to escape to Mexico, so the legal remedy wasn’t viable. The solution would have been to allow him to leave the embassy for his arranged escape flight to Mexico and then taken him at the airport. It would have been risky because he might have escaped, but that risk would have been preferable to this situation.
@@FallofftheMap I agree with everything you are saying. I am just of the opinion that it's not just a slam dunk that Noboa was without any justification
I agree. The problem is that a justification that appeals to the sensibilities of the people is not a legal justification or a justification that works in international politics or in the minds of diplomats around the world. Diplomats live or die by the rule of law, not by emotional appeals. They often live in places like Benghazi, where the only thing keeping them alive is the host nation’s promise to respect and protect them. When you put cracks in that promise you make enemies in all corners.
What's the problem? Glass was convicted not for political reasons, but for corruption. It should be uncomfortable for Mexico for harboring a convicted criminal. Yes, the storming of the embassy is certainly a high-profile event, it is unpleasant, but in this particular case, the goal justifies the means. It looks like Noboa is serious about fighting the cartels, God help him.
The problem is that it is a violation of the Vienna Convention. This sort of situation arises surprisingly often between nations and its extremely rare for any nation to put their political alliances at risk and isolate themselves by violating the Vienna Convention.
@@FallofftheMap When Yugoslavia was bombed, no one remembered any conventions (this is not an embassy assault). Nothing serious will be presented to the leadership of Ecuador if the leadership of Ecuador swims in the wake of the United States. I don't see any commotion in the world media about the assault. The news passed, there were no special screams.
@@FallofftheMap Mexico also violeted the Vienna Convention by housing, giving refuge and offering assylum to a convicted criminal. So as an Ecuadorian I think Mexico has had enough negative influence in our affairs so therefore the world community should also condemn AMLO's interference in the judicial system and be less hard on our President's actions. Ecuador will not be left alone in this mess, I am sure.
Excellent comment, I agree with you 100%, the goal really justifies the means. Ecuador is in such a terrible mess due to Correa and his criminals. Mexico exported crime to Ecuador.
@@user-eo9qy7qj2jall of these are moral and emotional arguments, and as such, they have no place in power relations (politics). The simple fact that you guys appeal to some higher ideology, proves you do not understand politics
When I saw your video posted I worried that you would condemn Naboa but instead you did a great job IMO. I am in Quito. Naboa is trying to do what El Salvadoran President Bukele is doing that others call nonconventional and lawless but it is working. Yes some innocents have been caught up in the mess but these hypocritical countries condemning El Salvador about human rights violations etc while they cannot even fix their own countries is laughable. The Mexican President told the US to pay him millions or the illegals will keep coming and the CORRUPT US GOVERNMENT and both political parties are responsible for no resolutions.Naboa has been President less than 6 months and has the world against him because that's the cartels agenda. Look at all then murders including the young mayor during Easter. Just like the Expats in Ecuador bashing our beloved US when our country needs our support, they are now aligning with many of the uneducated and uninformed locals bashing Ecuador. Its ok to disagree with things if you educate yourself but when that's all you do while spreading false or misleading information IMO that makes that person someone who cannot even be trusted in a friendship.
I don’t condemn Naboa but I do think he fell into a trap on this one. The political consequences are going to cost more than arresting Glass was worth.
@@FallofftheMapbut what should he have done? I thought your video response was good. Though I am an Expat, and may not understand or agree with everything he does, Naboa is our president and if we DONT support him the cartels wins. Thanks 4 your response
I live in Mexico.. AMLO says Abrazos no Balazos ( Hugs not Bullets ) Mexico should follow Ecuador's lead and declare the Cartels the Terrorists that they are.. In the long run Ecuador will be respected by the International Community.
@@gregoriopuro on subreddit r/asklatinamerica the strongest support for Ecuador and condemnation of AMLO has come from Mexicans that are fed up with their corrupt president. AMLO reminds me of Correa, slowly destroying the country while he gets paid off to allow the cancer of the cartels to grow in power.
Ecuador is doing its own version, but as small as Ecuador is, it’s way bigger and more strategically important than El Salvador. El Salvador beat the cartels, in part, because they had the benefit of surprise. In Ecuador, the cartels were already waiting and expecting a government crackdown. There was no element of surprise and they were able to sit back and wait until the new president took office before making their move. In Ecuador the government is weak and deeply in debt while the cartels are well funded and well organized. In El Salvador the president had the luxury of time to purge corruption from the courts and National Assembly before going after the cartels. In Ecuador the president is fighting the cartels while handicapped by a corrupt legal and legislative system than is plagued by politicians that are owned by the cartels.
True… so is Seattle, San Francisco, Houston, London… most of the world is a mess. Ecuador has the misfortune of being under the microscope of the news cycle in this moment.
@eps0m1066 0 seconds ago I get that your a big fan of Ecuador and maybe even its current govt, but you have completely and totally missed the point. An embassy or any other diplomatic property is legally viewed by all other countries as the ‘territory’ of that same country, regardless of where it is located. You CANNOT under any circumstance enter this property without the ‘express permission of the country to which it belongs’. Thats it, end of story. Finish. Every country (until very recently) has firmly believed in that No1 golden rule. It does NOT matter what the reasons may be in wanting to enter that property, you cannot enter under any circumstances without the permission of that country. Every country knows this, and has believed and supported this rule. This is exactly as if Ecuador had mounted an armed attack within Mexico. There’s no difference because this IS legal Mexican territory. I know overall the world is going crazy right now, but this takes it to a whole new level! If Mexico chose to take military action in retaliation for this, they would be entirely justified under international law because this act of invading an embassy was a deliberate military act against another sovereign nation. Ecuador must be fully condemned and face very severe consequences from the world community for what it has done.
This is not quite true. There is a relatively long history of attacks, raids, and violations of embassies around the world. While the vast majority were not committed by a nation, but rather a mob or terrorist group, Vietnam, Russia, Peru, Venezuela, Iran, and Israel have all commuted deliberate direct attacks on embassies. Also, it is a common misconception that an embassy is sovereign territory of the nation. www.wcnc.com/article/news/verify/verify-no-us-embassies-arent-considered-us-territory/507-59986c66-c52e-452a-9002-562116b540bf
@@FallofftheMapExactly and, with the attack on the Ecuadorian Embassy in London to get Assange even worse punished (for nothing but truth) is yer a other example Come ón Ecuador... You can do this... Weare many, many people from around the world, supporting you 💕 Thanks a lot for sharing this...
Well, if Glass was just sitting there escaping doing times that's one thing. If Glass was actively coordinating activities from within the embassy, that's something else. There may be a good reason why Naboa took such extreme actions. If Glass was an active part of a continuing threat to the people of Ecuador, then there shouldn't be 1 square inch inside of Ecuador that he should be safe.
Glass was actively coordinating his escape from the embassy. He had secured a private flight and “political asylum” from AMLO. These two politicians are friendly with each other because they are owned by the same cartels.
@@FallofftheMap, then an operation to take him into custody is justified and commendable. There is a false narrative of a "rules based" world certain entities are pushing. It is a devious word play designed to deceive good people. The global society must be based on LAW, not "rules". A "rules" based world is a world where the mighty set the rules to exploit the weak. The mighty make whatever rules that suit them and exempt themselves from their own rules. Bukele realized this and departed from that. And look at his results. Now El Salvador is offering 5000 free visas and other perks to attract the best and brightest from around the world. That Correa is unhappy with what happened is enough for me to support Naboa's move.
Because with neighbors like these, who needs enemies? For a long time Ecuador wasn’t in the news. It was a safe quiet little country. Over the past few years the cocaine smuggling routes shifted and Ecuador became strategically important to the cartels. This brought political instability, corruption, and violence.
Good analysis however, I have just seen the meeting that was held in the European Community about this situation and there were 4 members there at leat that were very supportive of Noboa's actions. Noboa has a lot of Ecuadorians support me included, he had no other choice but to break in to the embassy to take this criminal away. Ecuadorian intelligence found out that there was a mexican plane waiting on Saturday and that Glas was about to be driven directly to the airport and be taken away to Mexico, (get away car included) to celebrate Correa's birthday with Luisa and the other Ecuadorian fugitives and there would have been even worse if Noboa's government let this criminal get away...Noboa's popularity is even greater than before, I just checked a lot of favourable opinions about his actions.
It's not as if Ecuador entered the Mexican Embassy to arrest Mexicans. I think this will strengthen Noboa's Presidency. No more games. Thanks for your info. Remember when the Ecuadorian Presidents plane was boarded in Europe to search for Assange.
@@user-eo9qy7qj2jthese are emotional reactions from emotional people who do not reason well. Politics is best carried out cold-bloodedly and rationally. There is no advantage here. If Noboa indeed did this to gain popular support, this is pure manipulation…the lowest common denominator is not fit to rule.
it's against international law. You also see footage of pushing a embassy member of staff to the floor. Equador shot themselves in the foot. Regardless of how much they wanted this guy. It was a political stunt, that has back fired. They should have used political channels rather than trying to flex muscles.
Ecuador is at war with Cartels and any accomplice for that matter. I think it was a msg that they are not playing around and they will kick down any door that's in their terf. There is always a green light tho.
It sent a message, for sure, but even Russia, and the US restrain themselves when it comes to a direct assault on an embassy, even while at war, even when they have ample justification. They may bend the rules or use covert operations, but they understand the political and strategic consequences are simply not worth it. Though, Russia in particular has had a few “accidental” missile strikes on foreign embassies in Ukraine.
@@FallofftheMap So why his selling his country, You are not from South America, but i I’m and you don’t have family in Ecuador like me, I talk what I know
@@jamesortiz5294 you do understand that Ecuador doesn’t have the money to pay its teachers, police, military, doctors, etc… right? The tourism economy collapsed during the pandemic. The Correa government borrowed billions from China. Ecuador is drowning in debt. Naboa is forced to make very hard decisions in order to either generate money or cut spending. He’s a president, not a dictator, so he needs the cooperation of the National Assembly to cut spending, which means cutting bloated government salaries is not something he has the political power to do. His only real options are to either default on the debt or sell mineral assets. It’s not a popular move to invite the Canadian mining companies, but when the country you’ve been handed is on life support you have to accept some painful medicine to survive. Also, my wife and kids are Ecuadorian, so pretty much everything you’ve assumed is wrong. I noticed in your attempt to claim credibility you didn’t say that you live in Ecuador. How long have you been living abroad?
>coughcough< Glass, the convicted ex president at the center of this fiasco was part of the political party that gave safe haven to Julian Assange. Just like the U.S. most countries have opposing political parties that often reverse course on important policy issues when they come to power. Blaming Naboa for taking a different approach than Correa is like blaming Biden for reversing Trump policies. It’s not hypocrisy, it’s a policy change by an opposing administration.
Having a different opinion from you is not the same as not being educated. My opinion is that there were better ways to achieve the same result and i strongly suspect that someone in Naboa’s administration is compromised and intentionally giving him bad advice.
Yes, I misspoke. Ex Vice president, not ex president. Feel free to give me shit about it.
I was wondering why the name was so unfamiliar!
you are cool. most of us knew! keep up good work. i have a similiar and VARIED opinion on 'Raid". The drug flow needs to be tackled!!! Head on. There is alot about this 'RAID' we dont know/understand. At this point I support Noboa and give him benefit of doubt. Crime in Mexico is skyrocketing. We dont want Ecuador heading that way. . thanks for presentation. Appreciate you.
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@@BPe-ie9je thanks. unfortunately violent crime rates in Ecuador have already surpassed Mexico.
It is hard to imagine that arresting Glass is important enough to justify the damage this action will do to Ecuador!
I agree. I think Naboa fell into a trap on this one.
@@FallofftheMap no trap my friends! After living 10 years of socialism in Ecuador I learned that socialists won't defend anything but their interests and that is exactly what the president of Mexico is doing! He doesn't care about patriotism! If he got this posture is because there is something behind that is going to affect him! Let's remember that the DEA is already investing the president of Mexico for having realitions with the Cartels! And he is already crying because the resolutions of the Organization of American States was "too soft".
@@robertozc9827 I agree with you. My point about Naboa falling into a trap is that I think there were better ways to capture Glass. I don’t think Naboa fully understood the consequences of raiding the embassy and how it will negatively impact Ecuador for many years. Regardless of what leaders are saying publicly about it, what matters more is what the various diplomats think. Diplomats around the world are angry, and these are the people that do the work behind the scenes. Think of them as like the people that cook your food in a restaurant. You don’t want them to hate you. They might be friendly to your face but they’ll do terrible things to your food.
From a legal and diplomatic standpoint, this is one of the worst possible decisions the president could have made. Hopefully there is a diplomatic resolution to this situation.
I wonder how Naboa came to make this decision. Perhaps some of his advisers are working against him.
@@FallofftheMap There is no way that Noboa did this without asking the USA, in my opinion.
AMLO is a narc0, a lot of guilty politicians are living now in Mexico.
I do not think that this will have an effect on Noboa's support. I also, do not think Ecuador's major trade partners will do anything. China would probably do the same thing if a criminal was hiding in their own country. China cares about one thing, business. I agree that the Mexican government is known for supporting corruption, and they need to clean up their act. Trade is great, but Mexico has exported crime to Ecuador.
Ecuador needs Mexico to become a member of the Pacific Alliance.
Time will tell, but in my opinion Naboa just tried to thread a needle with a hammer.
@@FallofftheMapso what should he had done?
@@Whatsupbuddiebud why did he have to do anything?
@@clazy8I am not sure how to answer such a ridiculous question so I won't
The government should have surrounded the compound and just waited and check every car coming in and out.
Not that this area is without its problems and risks, but I'm so glad were further down south. We started in Guatemala and the further south we have gone the more we like it. I hope Ecuador can work its way through these troubles.
I’m fairly confident Ecuador will get through these problems and be stronger for it. However, if things fall apart here Paraguay is at the top of my list for a back up plan. Really, I’ve zeroed in on either Paraguay, or northern Cyprus.
@@FallofftheMap Cyprus? Beautiful part of the world. Here's hoping Ecuador finds its way through this drama.
Very good perspective and I agree 100% I guess Nboa felt the benefit outweighed the international fallout.
My opinion is that Naboa chose the wrong way to to do the right thing. Glass needed to be arrested before he could escape the country, but he did not need to be arrested inside the embassy in violation of the Vienna Convention.
Messy situation. Doesn't look good for Mexico not using diplomatic channels as much as Ecuador to enact a handover. You explained some of the nuances of Latin politics well here brother.
It is the opposite. Mexico is great at diplomacia, Exuad9r is a lousy mediocre diplomacy place. You do not Know nothing avout ir
@@Marusanchez100 Yeah okay lol
Can you provide any explanation to support what you are saying? From my prospective, Mexico is the wealthiest nation in Latin America, but due to corruption and arrogance is squandering what international influence it once had and becoming a joke around the world. Meanwhile, Ecuador is one of the smallest and poorest nations fighting an existential threat against the cartels, and yet diplomatically is punching way above its weight. Back up your words with something other than what you feel?
@@FallofftheMap This is not about feelings but facts.
Mexican President made a similar between the last Ecuadorian election murder of one candidate and how that situation affected the final result to the benefit of one of the parties who happened to be the most affected by such a situation. In Mexico, a couple of weeks ago, a candidate running for a small City was murdered. The local government was trying to make the same Ecuador did in Mexico, trying to affect the entire elections that will be held on June 2nd (the largest elections in Mexican history).
AMLO NEVER insulted the current President of Ecuador, never accused him of being responsible for the situation, never emitted any opinion about him or the situation. He only spoke the facts. In any case, if Ecuador had something to complain about, they skipped all diplomatic procedures.
The same happened with the asylum of Glas granted by Mexico after 4 months of investigation and several diplomatic tramits.
You seem to believe that the current Mexican government is corrupt. Maybe you only watch specific media and learn about partial and manipulative Media.
Emmiting opinions without contrasting information sources, especially if you have no idea of Latin American cultures is like saying that all Americans, Canadians, and UK citizens are ignorant, and drug addicts. It is disrespectful.
Hello . In case of Peru it was to recover ( not to kick down the doors ) of the Japanese Embassy taken by MRTA ( guerrilla movement ) . It is considered one of the best rescue of prisoners of the World. It was very good planned by Alberto Fujimori . This was also the last attacked made by MRTA in Peru. The main leadership of this terror organization was finally defeated. Its name is Operacion Chavin de Huantar. I invite you to see a video about this sucessful rescue of kidnapped -> """ Chavin de Huantar """ in the youtube channel "peruvian armed forces" . We peruvians are 100% with Ecuador. Lopez Obrador has a very bad reputation of awful intervention in the latin america's government. He did it with Peru, but we declared himself as persona-no-grata what is a very bad label used by governments in the World.
Thanks for the education. I only knew that something happened involving an embassy in Peru, I didn’t realize what it was.
I think that if USA support Ecuador, then the sanctions are going to be mild, I think. But neither Biden or Trump are on the path of supporting latin-america countries. Amlo has a video online where he is supporting the Chapo Guzman's mother He is saying "ya recibí su carta" , I already received your letter". After this meeting, His mother was allowed to enter USA and visit his son into high-security-jail. The Amlo's family has suddenly become rich.
As we would say in the Marine Corps, 'Ecuador screwed the pooch on this one." I am a Naboa , but I don't believe that the "juice was worth the squeeze" on this. Given the history between the Correístas and the anti-Correístas, I understand that this would seem like a victory against corruption and bribery (not as though that has not been inherent in Ecuadorian politics), but in this case the cost was too high - the tradeoff wasn't worth it. As Ecuador has been seeking support against the cartels to combat the internal crime, this breach of diplomatic protocol is marking it as a pariah (and understandably so).
As a resident, I am curious (and anxious) to see how this will work out. The one nation that cannot condemn Ecuador for this breach of the Vienna Convention is Israel, which bombed the Iranian embassy compound in Damascus days ago.
This is exactly my feeling on the issue.
Thank you for the update. will be heading there in July .
Feel free to reach out for advice for your trip.
The cartels on both sides are a struggle politically to deal with. I’m a Texan so border issues are near and dear especially with my elderly parents in the smuggling areas of west Texas now. The cartels are everywhere unfortunately but hopefully this was an isolated incident that may have been better to ask for forgiveness than permission. At least Ecuador’s president did something instead of absolutely nothing.
Yeah, I’m starting to come around to this point of view, though I’m still really concerned about the mood and sentiment of diplomats around the world. Pissing off the diplomatic community is sort of like pissing off the cooks at a restaurant but on an international scale. Your waiter will still be nice to your face, but behind the scenes terrible things are happening.
Very interesting. Thx !
Thanks for this update, I was looking for local perspective.
You’re welcome. Just watched one of your Indonesia videos. I miss traveling in that part of the world.
Well my friend, currently President Noboa has over 60% of popularity. Glas is where he belongs. And Correa is not in ppwer right, he is shitting his pants because Glas would open his mouth and throw every body under the bus. I would love to see that!
I hope it plays out like that, I hope the evidence is so overwhelming the Belgium agrees to extradite Correa, but I think it’s much more likely that Glass will be killed in prison to prevent him from taking.
@@FallofftheMap let me tell you something. Right now, in the courts of Miami, the former Comptroller of Ecuador is been processed for getting dirty money into Florida, and guess who has been already mentioned about Odebretch bribery for 13 million dollars? Jorge Glas! A lot of croocked mf's are going to fall after this!!!
Excellent video. I do believe Ecuador did have a legal basis for entering and taking Glas. The Vienna Convention does state something to the affect that it is unlawful to harbor anyone who is indicted or convicted of a crime before seeking refuge.
Yes, but the Vienna Convention also stipulates that the remedy is the international criminal court, not committing a second violation of the convention by raiding the embassy. Unfortunately, waiting for the ICC would have allowed Glass to escape to Mexico, so the legal remedy wasn’t viable. The solution would have been to allow him to leave the embassy for his arranged escape flight to Mexico and then taken him at the airport. It would have been risky because he might have escaped, but that risk would have been preferable to this situation.
@@FallofftheMap I agree with everything you are saying. I am just of the opinion that it's not just a slam dunk that Noboa was without any justification
I agree. The problem is that a justification that appeals to the sensibilities of the people is not a legal justification or a justification that works in international politics or in the minds of diplomats around the world. Diplomats live or die by the rule of law, not by emotional appeals. They often live in places like Benghazi, where the only thing keeping them alive is the host nation’s promise to respect and protect them. When you put cracks in that promise you make enemies in all corners.
What's the problem? Glass was convicted not for political reasons, but for corruption. It should be uncomfortable for Mexico for harboring a convicted criminal. Yes, the storming of the embassy is certainly a high-profile event, it is unpleasant, but in this particular case, the goal justifies the means. It looks like Noboa is serious about fighting the cartels, God help him.
The problem is that it is a violation of the Vienna Convention. This sort of situation arises surprisingly often between nations and its extremely rare for any nation to put their political alliances at risk and isolate themselves by violating the Vienna Convention.
@@FallofftheMap When Yugoslavia was bombed, no one remembered any conventions (this is not an embassy assault). Nothing serious will be presented to the leadership of Ecuador if the leadership of Ecuador swims in the wake of the United States. I don't see any commotion in the world media about the assault. The news passed, there were no special screams.
@@FallofftheMap Mexico also violeted the Vienna Convention by housing, giving refuge and offering assylum to a convicted criminal. So as an Ecuadorian I think Mexico has had enough negative influence in our affairs so therefore the world community should also condemn AMLO's interference in the judicial system and be less hard on our President's actions. Ecuador will not be left alone in this mess, I am sure.
Excellent comment, I agree with you 100%, the goal really justifies the means. Ecuador is in such a terrible mess due to Correa and his criminals. Mexico exported crime to Ecuador.
@@user-eo9qy7qj2jall of these are moral and emotional arguments, and as such, they have no place in power relations (politics). The simple fact that you guys appeal to some higher ideology, proves you do not understand politics
When I saw your video posted I worried that you would condemn Naboa but instead you did a great job IMO. I am in Quito. Naboa is trying to do what El Salvadoran President Bukele is doing that others call nonconventional and lawless but it is working. Yes some innocents have been caught up in the mess but these hypocritical countries condemning El Salvador about human rights violations etc while they cannot even fix their own countries is laughable. The Mexican President told the US to pay him millions or the illegals will keep coming and the CORRUPT US GOVERNMENT and both political parties are responsible for no resolutions.Naboa has been President less than 6 months and has the world against him because that's the cartels agenda. Look at all then murders including the young mayor during Easter. Just like the Expats in Ecuador bashing our beloved US when our country needs our support, they are now aligning with many of the uneducated and uninformed locals bashing Ecuador. Its ok to disagree with things if you educate yourself but when that's all you do while spreading false or misleading information IMO that makes that person someone who cannot even be trusted in a friendship.
I don’t condemn Naboa but I do think he fell into a trap on this one. The political consequences are going to cost more than arresting Glass was worth.
@@FallofftheMapbut what should he have done? I thought your video response was good. Though I am an Expat, and may not understand or agree with everything he does, Naboa is our president and if we DONT support him the cartels wins. Thanks 4 your response
I live in Mexico.. AMLO says Abrazos no Balazos ( Hugs not Bullets ) Mexico should follow Ecuador's lead and declare the Cartels the Terrorists that they are.. In the long run Ecuador will be respected by the International Community.
@@gregoriopuro on subreddit r/asklatinamerica the strongest support for Ecuador and condemnation of AMLO has come from Mexicans that are fed up with their corrupt president. AMLO reminds me of Correa, slowly destroying the country while he gets paid off to allow the cancer of the cartels to grow in power.
Ecuador needs to do a El Salvador.
Ecuador is doing its own version, but as small as Ecuador is, it’s way bigger and more strategically important than El Salvador. El Salvador beat the cartels, in part, because they had the benefit of surprise. In Ecuador, the cartels were already waiting and expecting a government crackdown. There was no element of surprise and they were able to sit back and wait until the new president took office before making their move. In Ecuador the government is weak and deeply in debt while the cartels are well funded and well organized. In El Salvador the president had the luxury of time to purge corruption from the courts and National Assembly before going after the cartels. In Ecuador the president is fighting the cartels while handicapped by a corrupt legal and legislative system than is plagued by politicians that are owned by the cartels.
Ecuador it’s a mess!
True… so is Seattle, San Francisco, Houston, London… most of the world is a mess. Ecuador has the misfortune of being under the microscope of the news cycle in this moment.
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I get that your a big fan of Ecuador and maybe even its current govt, but you have completely and totally missed the point. An embassy or any other diplomatic property is legally viewed by all other countries as the ‘territory’ of that same country, regardless of where it is located. You CANNOT under any circumstance enter this property without the ‘express permission of the country to which it belongs’. Thats it, end of story. Finish. Every country (until very recently) has firmly believed in that No1 golden rule. It does NOT matter what the reasons may be in wanting to enter that property, you cannot enter under any circumstances without the permission of that country. Every country knows this, and has believed and supported this rule. This is exactly as if Ecuador had mounted an armed attack within Mexico. There’s no difference because this IS legal Mexican territory. I know overall the world is going crazy right now, but this takes it to a whole new level! If Mexico chose to take military action in retaliation for this, they would be entirely justified under international law because this act of invading an embassy was a deliberate military act against another sovereign nation. Ecuador must be fully condemned and face very severe consequences from the world community for what it has done.
This is not quite true. There is a relatively long history of attacks, raids, and violations of embassies around the world. While the vast majority were not committed by a nation, but rather a mob or terrorist group, Vietnam, Russia, Peru, Venezuela, Iran, and Israel have all commuted deliberate direct attacks on embassies. Also, it is a common misconception that an embassy is sovereign territory of the nation. www.wcnc.com/article/news/verify/verify-no-us-embassies-arent-considered-us-territory/507-59986c66-c52e-452a-9002-562116b540bf
@@FallofftheMapExactly and, with the attack on the Ecuadorian Embassy in London to get Assange even worse punished (for nothing but truth) is yer a other example
Come ón Ecuador... You can do this... Weare many, many people from around the world, supporting you 💕
Thanks a lot for sharing this...
Well, if Glass was just sitting there escaping doing times that's one thing.
If Glass was actively coordinating activities from within the embassy, that's something else.
There may be a good reason why Naboa took such extreme actions. If Glass was an active part of a continuing threat to the people of Ecuador, then there shouldn't be 1 square inch inside of Ecuador that he should be safe.
Glass was actively coordinating his escape from the embassy. He had secured a private flight and “political asylum” from AMLO. These two politicians are friendly with each other because they are owned by the same cartels.
@@FallofftheMap, then an operation to take him into custody is justified and commendable.
There is a false narrative of a "rules based" world certain entities are pushing. It is a devious word play designed to deceive good people.
The global society must be based on LAW, not "rules".
A "rules" based world is a world where the mighty set the rules to exploit the weak. The mighty make whatever rules that suit them and exempt themselves from their own rules.
Bukele realized this and departed from that. And look at his results. Now El Salvador is offering 5000 free visas and other perks to attract the best and brightest from around the world.
That Correa is unhappy with what happened is enough for me to support Naboa's move.
Why is such a small country always at the center of the news
Because with neighbors like these, who needs enemies? For a long time Ecuador wasn’t in the news. It was a safe quiet little country. Over the past few years the cocaine smuggling routes shifted and Ecuador became strategically important to the cartels. This brought political instability, corruption, and violence.
Good analysis however, I have just seen the meeting that was held in the European Community about this situation and there were 4 members there at leat that were very supportive of Noboa's actions. Noboa has a lot of Ecuadorians support me included, he had no other choice but to break in to the embassy to take this criminal away. Ecuadorian intelligence found out that there was a mexican plane waiting on Saturday and that Glas was about to be driven directly to the airport and be taken away to Mexico, (get away car included) to celebrate Correa's birthday with Luisa and the other Ecuadorian fugitives and there would have been even worse if Noboa's government let this criminal get away...Noboa's popularity is even greater than before, I just checked a lot of favourable opinions about his actions.
Can you link to some information about this meeting?
@@FallofftheMap ua-cam.com/video/4C1Canm2cCQ/v-deo.html
@@FallofftheMap ua-cam.com/video/sk2hmyKxQig/v-deo.html
It's not as if Ecuador entered the Mexican Embassy to arrest Mexicans. I think this will strengthen Noboa's Presidency. No more games. Thanks for your info. Remember when the Ecuadorian Presidents plane was boarded in Europe to search for Assange.
Excellent comment, I completely agree with you. I am Ecuadorian and I feel that a great majority of us support Noboa's actions. Greetings
@@user-eo9qy7qj2jthese are emotional reactions from emotional people who do not reason well. Politics is best carried out cold-bloodedly and rationally. There is no advantage here.
If Noboa indeed did this to gain popular support, this is pure manipulation…the lowest common denominator is not fit to rule.
it's against international law. You also see footage of pushing a embassy member of staff to the floor. Equador shot themselves in the foot. Regardless of how much they wanted this guy. It was a political stunt, that has back fired. They should have used political channels rather than trying to flex muscles.
Both sides broke “international law.” The legal remedy was not effective, so Ecuador went outside the law. The consequences are purely theatrical
@@FallofftheMap I agree with you 100%
Noboa : yea thats right , how you like me now !!
Slightly less…
Ecuador is at war with Cartels and any accomplice for that matter. I think it was a msg that they are not playing around and they will kick down any door that's in their terf. There is always a green light tho.
It sent a message, for sure, but even Russia, and the US restrain themselves when it comes to a direct assault on an embassy, even while at war, even when they have ample justification. They may bend the rules or use covert operations, but they understand the political and strategic consequences are simply not worth it. Though, Russia in particular has had a few “accidental” missile strikes on foreign embassies in Ukraine.
Interestingly iranian embassy in syria was bombed by Israel this week
Yeah, the timing was odd.
Do you Know the Ecuador president is American, jus gave a contest to the US Army To camp there
He’s duel citizen. Saying he’s American without including the fact that he is also an Ecuadorian citizen is a bit deceptive.
Dual citizens doesn't mean he doesn't have conflict of interest
@@jamesortiz5294 nor does it mean that he does.
@@FallofftheMap So why his selling his country, You are not from South America, but i I’m and you don’t have family in Ecuador like me, I talk what I know
@@jamesortiz5294 you do understand that Ecuador doesn’t have the money to pay its teachers, police, military, doctors, etc… right? The tourism economy collapsed during the pandemic. The Correa government borrowed billions from China. Ecuador is drowning in debt. Naboa is forced to make very hard decisions in order to either generate money or cut spending. He’s a president, not a dictator, so he needs the cooperation of the National Assembly to cut spending, which means cutting bloated government salaries is not something he has the political power to do. His only real options are to either default on the debt or sell mineral assets. It’s not a popular move to invite the Canadian mining companies, but when the country you’ve been handed is on life support you have to accept some painful medicine to survive. Also, my wife and kids are Ecuadorian, so pretty much everything you’ve assumed is wrong. I noticed in your attempt to claim credibility you didn’t say that you live in Ecuador. How long have you been living abroad?
>coughcough
>coughcough< Glass, the convicted ex president at the center of this fiasco was part of the political party that gave safe haven to Julian Assange. Just like the U.S. most countries have opposing political parties that often reverse course on important policy issues when they come to power. Blaming Naboa for taking a different approach than Correa is like blaming Biden for reversing Trump policies. It’s not hypocrisy, it’s a policy change by an opposing administration.
YOU SHOULD EDUCATE YOURSELF MORE ON THE POLITICS OF OUR HOST COUNTRY BEFORE POSTING SUCH UNWITTING REMARKS
Having a different opinion from you is not the same as not being educated. My opinion is that there were better ways to achieve the same result and i strongly suspect that someone in Naboa’s administration is compromised and intentionally giving him bad advice.