everyone who say Asta can cancel natsu magic remember that in black clover magic is a power that people are born with and in fairy tal magic can be learned and made with ether nans in the air. thus asta can't cancel natsu's magic
If you know how Power Scalling Works then you must know how Verse Equalisation works. It is when you put power mechanics of 2 verses (Example Black clover and Fairy tail) and make them the same. Which means Natsu and Asta would have the same type of magic which means Asta could Erase it with his Anti Magic.
@@karshaks5142was just about to comment this. because if this wasn’t the cast than neither one of their magic would work on each other. so you have to make the power system the same
Curse Power (呪力 Juryoku): Referred to his as E.N.D. Power, (ＥＮＤイーエヌディーパワー Ī Enu Dī Pawā)[130] Natsu as an Etherious is able to access his demonic power after the mass of Magic in chest was enlarged by Brandish's Command T. Like all Etherious, his desire to kill his creator in Zeref is activated, however he still retains his ability to think and function properly to his will. His arms and facial features become more demonic, while his attack power increases. He has been seen to control it at will when he deactivated it after Erza stopped his battle with Gray.[131][132] This demonic power was described to be strong enough to surpass the Gods due to Natsu being able to use it in order to move freely on his own while inside a time-distorted world made by Dimaria which was taught to her by the God of Time himself.
Now this is what I'm excited to see, i know natsu can burn through time but still, this is totally enjoyable and can't wait to see more asta in this like asta vs boruto and asta vs deku, especially more lucifero scale videos yes!!
Anti-Magic can nullify magical attacks and any attributes made, composed or manifested of Mana, but according to Lucius Zogratis, the only way to counter Anti-Magic is with brute force (non-magic attacks) or physical attacks enhanced with magic (Mana).
Lucifero has 3 statements(Nacht, Narrator, and Tabata/Data book) and a feat from the manga. Tabata/Data book Statments for: The pair fought in spade country, defeating the king who was about to destroy/ruin/wreck the world, gaining accomplishment as a magic. Feats: Lucifero fuse with the Tree of Qliphoth(Dark magic + World Tree Magic) to aid in his manifestation. The Tree of Qliphoth is a channel between both worlds that branches throughout the levels of the underworld. The Tree of Qliphoth scales to the size of the underworld or greater. Which in turn would scale to the size of the BC earth low balled or BC Universe. This would even make would even Worm Lucifero and 50% Lucifero (Planetary-Universal+) since he fuse with the Tree of Qliphoth. (TDU Asta>) Lucius gain 100% Lucifero by eating both of his hearts then spent 15month raiding the underworld getting stronger. Later on PDU Asta(PDU>PDU Asta>Base Lucius>>>Worm and 50-100% Lucifero) Land of The Rising Sun arc: Later on Asta began his training to master Zetten an advance version of Ki were the user can channel all of there yoryoku/magic thoughout there body and release it all at once or at a specific output increase their power 20-100x. Day 1: Asta fights base Ichika for the first time and Asta says Devil union would be useless against her putting her above current Base Lucius and Lucifero that we seen fight Asta. (Base Ichika>>>Asta Forms) Day 2-3: Asta trains with The Ryuzen (Ryuzen>Asta) Day 4: PDU Asta was equal to Black Musha Ichika form but losses in zetten exchange. After that battle trains Asta against the strongest member of the Ryuzen 7 "Mushouga". (Mushouga>Ryuzen>=Asta) After his training he Mastered Zetten that was said to take decades to learn. Asta can now see attacks attacks before they come and make his attack more powerful and precise then ever. He also defeated 2 Paladins(Created by Lucius using soul magic) one being Sister Lily who surpassed 100% beelzebub putting her and the other paladins on or above Planetary+. (Lucius>Mastered Zetten Asta>Mushouga>Paladins>=Ryuzen>Sacred Dragon>Lucifero) Asta would scale to Large Planet-Universal+ lvl MFTL+ to Infinite Speeds. 3 Uni+ Feats: Dorothy Glamour world: being stated to be Infinite in size and able to spawn real moon and stars. Yami destroyed it nearly instantly with Dimension slash(HAX) and surpasses that with Death thrust(A.P). Zenon: he created a Subspace/hyperspace with spatial magic and yuno destroyed 4 dimensional space.(Uni+) Lucifero: fuse with the Tree of Qliphoth which is a channel between both worlds that branches throughout the levels of the underworld and the underworld scale to (Planetary-Universal+) Asta> Anti Magic is type of Arcane Stage Magic. Arcane Stage Magic can effect physical/Invisible/Intangible concepts while also being above all effects and ignore laws of physics stated by Gaja and Lolopechika. Asta slams BC speed scaling: Note: The magic power is causely link and correlates to a person Speed, Durability and Power so if your magic power get 2x stronger so does your other stats. This was shown though Zora's trap magic, other Amplifies/Transformation, Soul chain death match, and is stated in the guide/datebook. Magna has FTL+ combat speeds because he's able to keep with Black Asta and Ruffle in the Elf arc. This Black Asta is very superior in speed to base asta who was able to parry light attacks from Elf Raya. Elf Raya being many times more powerful than suppressed base Raya who was greater in speed than patri who has several lights speed statements. Elf arc Mereoleona was able to easy react, parry, and destroy Elf Raya's copy light magic which was calculated to be over 28x FTL+. Elf arc Asta was able to blitz pass Mereoleona spell in Base which means Black Asta would also scale over 28x FTL+. Magna briefly surpass black asta in the middle of the 6 month timeskip as when the Asta gets fold by a Magic Spider Beast(MSB) Leopold did well against it. Leopold then got stronger and fought these magic golems and struggle against them in both speed and power but Magna could blitz one of them and 1 shot them. Later on Magna gets his manic mana state again which is stated to be more than 25x increase in power in the LN. This makes Magna in the middle of timeskip 700x FTL or MFTL. This is useful because Spade arc Magna is 500x weaker than 100% Dante stated Magna. This would make 100% Dante over 350,000x FTL or MFTL+. The Twin Devils are little stronger then the 100% Triad and the twins are more than 2x stronger when fused making them 700,000x FTL. Megicula is over 100x stronger than 100% Dante when she use a fraction of her power to make Hundreds of Devil disciples and each of them are stronger than 100% Dante and she weaker/slower than Lucifero at his weakess state. 50% Lucifero considerably get over 2x faster and stronger as he parried his own magic doubled redirected at him putting him over 70 millionX FTL. 100% Lucifero would be more than 2x stronger than 50% Lucifero making 140 millionX FTL. Lucius ate Lucifero hearts and gain 100% of his power on top of his own which would be more than (quadrupling/4x) it's because 50% Lucifero had both insane levels Physical and Magical power but he only had half of each in the spade saga. Which means any physical attack or movement that is renforced by Magic would be Quadrupled but spells and pure magic attacks would only be doubled. This would get Lucius at over 280 millionX FTL. Later in BC Japan Asta learns Zetten which is a 20-100x multipler base on translations being 20x, 40x, and 100x. PDU Asta scales to base Lucius meaning he would be (20x)5.6BillionX/ (40x)11.2BillionX/ (100x)280BillionX FTL with Zetten. Asta would fight Base Ichika in his Full black form and loses then Asta stated DU would have been useless against her. Asta later Fight her in his PDU form which is stated by Ichika to be equal to her Black Musha form but Asta loses in zetten exchange. This would mean Zetten Ichika is 20-100x stronger than PDU Asta meaning she would be 112BillionX/ 448BillionX/ 2.8TrillionX FTL. Later on Ichika would need Zetten to slice one of the 5 headed dragon head off. Yurul saw this happen it didn't rouse his fighting Instincts but wheb he saw PDU Asta it did rouse his fighting Instincts. This implies Asta training against Yusoga made him 40-200x than Black Musha Ichika with Zetten in his PDU form + his Zetten. This would make Asta 4.4TrillionX/ 35.8TrillionX/ 560TrillionX FTL. He had another 3days of training off screen so he would be even faster and stronger to scale to Lucius and Yuno. Asta is in the higher end of MFTL+. Asta blitz So, Strength-Asta He can destroy infinite number of dimensions with his infinite Equinox which puts him on low complex multiversal - low Outerversal. Speed-Asta Because Asta scales way above yno who moved in stopped time causing immesirable speed. BIQ/IQ Self Explain Physical Strength-Asta Because he can hold a sword with his bare hands which are size of a country Duribility-Asta Because he has stronger body and I am not sure he gets this point Ap - Asta Because Asta is way stronger than Yami and Yami destroyed a infinite-Sized dimension with his death thrust which is ap Abilities-Asta Anti-Magic,Anti-Magic Sharing,Demon Slayer,Demon Dweller, Infinite slash Equinox and etc Stamina-Asta Because Asta wants to be the wizard king and he wants to do what ever he wants just to become the wizard king For example- 10000 push ups Asta will do that and lot more Hax Asta can slash through many infinite sized dimension with one slash I got these information by reading the black clover manga Since Dorothy alone was able to create an infinite space with stars literally And was backed up even further when she opened ba rift in this same infinite plane that contained another universe in it And she goes ahead to recreate this infinite dimension multiple times as it got destroyed by people stronger than her Julius at base was able to wrap pocket dimensions that was supposed to trap him And this even goes further When manifesting lucifero was able to fuse himself with the world tree to holding multiple dimensions in it and asta was able to use infinite slash to separate him from the tree and destroyed the tree in the process Lucius plan is to fuse the world with the after life and the under world once his transformation is complete which literally puts him at low multiversal (low balled) Yuno on the other other hand was powerful enough to beat Lucius (clone) who scales higher than 100% Lucifero which puts him a low (universal ) Each paladin were stated to be relatively stronger than 100% lucifero Asta was able to beat two of them with trying which relatively scales him at base to ( low universe) at base literally With infinite speed on par with never land I don't know where all this low ball is coming from but asta is definitely onshoting natsu Which his time hax was literally based on emotional amp And it's literally irrelevant in a versus battle and The speed and power and power scaling in black clover is broken I see many people around tryna low-ball all this feats But it doesn't count since it has already been started mutiple time in the anime,manga and even in the databook
Thank you for being so PRECISE people who are like you should be rewarded because there are many people who just choose their favourite character and say they win
i can’t and don’t want to argue that😭🤣asta is slay. but i’m assuming you read current manga chapters…where would you scale mereo in the black clover verse. bc she’s literally pure mana now and surpassed every human limit lol
BC Anti Magic naturally opposes any mana and magic it comes into contact with, so, in general, only someone without any magic power can wield it. The Demon-Dweller Sword, however, has shown the ability not only to impart the magic-nullifying properties of Anti Magic onto magic that the sword has drawn from allies[6][7] but also to share Anti Magic with allies while still allowing them to use other magic.[8] ft Ethernano acts similar to radiation, where there is a safe limit of it that beings can handle before experiencing adverse side effects. As such, Living organisms cannot live in areas of extremely concentrated Ethernano, as it apparently has detrimental effects upon the structure of the body.[8] An untrained Human who gains too much Ethernano into their bodies will cause to go ill with a high fever.[9] As Magic is tied to a Mage’s life-force, over use of Magic Power to near depletion also decreases the Mages stamina and becomes exhausted. Years of overexerting their Magic Power causes the body to develop a malignant mass in the form of an Anti-Ethernano Tumor. To obtain Ethernano, the Mages in training must undergo intense meditation as the most effective means of absorbing it from the air around them. Training their own Nervous System and Wisdom for Magic, thus becoming a become a vessel for Magic Power. Every Mage has a "container" inside their body where the Ethernano is stored that determines the limits of their Magic Power. If the case becomes empty, Ethernano will automatically come from the atmosphere and enters the Mage's body and after a while, their Magic Power is restored. The amount and size varies between individuals, one can expand their through further meditation training.
BC Mana is an important aspect of every mage that has ever lived, as it is their source of "magic power" 「魔力 maryoku」, which is used to cast magic spells. This energy is naturally existing and flowing in the environment and within everyone.[1] Due to this, it is common knowledge that everyone is able to use magic to some extent. Individuals born with strong affinity for mana and with exceptional magic power are said to be "loved by mana".[2] At the same time, people who do not possess any mana and are unable to use magic at all are an extremely rare occurrence[3] and are said to be "hated by mana".
@Asta Natsu but you don't realise what if we compare black clover to one piece and with that logic we have to wait for black clover to reach 1000 ep and what if we compared gurren lagann which has like 27 ep which has Simon the digger who becomes multiversal, low multi i think in 27 ep and we compare it to black cover 27 ep. You see it doesn't make any sense so we compare characters with there strongest forms and feat plus writers can make anyone op in like 1 chapter or ep, that's why it only far to compare them at there strongest vs strongest form.
FT Ethernano acts similar to radiation, where there is a safe limit of it that beings can handle before experiencing adverse side effects. As such, Living organisms cannot live in areas of extremely concentrated Ethernano, as it apparently has detrimental effects upon the structure of the body.[8] An untrained Human who gains too much Ethernano into their bodies will cause to go ill with a high fever.[9] As Magic is tied to a Mage’s life-force, over use of Magic Power to near depletion also decreases the Mages stamina and becomes exhausted. Years of overexerting their Magic Power causes the body to develop a malignant mass in the form of an Anti-Ethernano Tumor. An Anti-Ethernano Tumor develops over time, after years of consistent Magic abuse; the symptoms appear to be acute despite the time required for the mass to develop to a detrimental size. Said symptoms appear to be deadly, as very shortly after the tumor had festered long enough inside its victim, Natsu Dragneel,[1] he fell comatose and his heartbeat could no longer be heard. The only known way to remove the tumor is via immediate surgery, however, it has been said that no surgeon in Ishgar has the required skill, and even Magic the likes of Sky Dragon Slayer Magic and Sky God Slayer Magic are ineffective at mitigating the malign effects the tumor causes. However, a Magic that manipulates mass can be used to shrink the tumor to a size so miniscule that it would render it benign. To utilize Magic, a Mage must use the Magic Power (魔力 Maryoku) in their body, which is composed of Ethernano (エーテルナノ Ēterunano), the source of Magic Power for all Mages. Every Mage has a container of Ethernano inside their body that determines the limits of their Magic Power. In the case that it becomes empty, Ethernano will come from the atmosphere and enter the Mage's body and, after a while, their Magic Power shall return to normal. However, recent studies have identified another, unused, part of a Mage's Magic container that contains a large amount of dormant power: the Second Origin (二番原セカンド・オリジン Sekando Orijin). If a Mage somehow manages to unlock their Second Origin, they will then receive an enormous boost in Magic Power,[15] or they can wait until the right moment to unleash the Magic Power of their Second Origin in order to gain an advantage in the battle.
Training Through intense meditation, Mages train their own Nervous System and Wisdom for Magic, where the former to become a vessel for Magic Power by drawing in Ethernano from the air, as well as a way to increase it, attempting to feel the earth, the wind, their energy through their skin and breathing deep enough to be one with nature. Then the Mages materializes the Magic within and releases it. The strength of a Mage's emotions are an important factor to use Magic. There are few exceptions for those who draw Magic by being physically active, as it can better set their heart and mind more free.[20][11] Though this would leave some Mages to neglect their physical training, being vulnerable to those with superior physical abilities.
Asta Anti Magic can nullify magical attacks and any attributes made, composed or manifested of Mana, but according to Lucius Zogratis, the only way to counter Anti Magic is with brute force (non-magic attacks) or physical attacks enhanced with magic (Mana).
Curses can be rendered ineffective through exorcism abilities that purges the Cursed Energy. Devil Slayers, also known as Exorcist Mages use their Devil Slayer Magic to nullify Cursed techniques. Devil Slayers also exhibit a degree of immunity towards Curses.
ft Curses can be rendered ineffective through exorcism abilities that purges the Cursed Energy. Devil Slayers, also known as Exorcist Mages use their Devil Slayer Magic to nullify Cursed techniques. Devil Slayers also exhibit a degree of immunity towards Curses.
can only block mana not eternano The usage of Ethernano can be rendered ineffective when in the presence of Anti-Magic effects, such as Magic Sealing Stones and various kinds of Nullification Magic. In more fatal cases such as Magical Barrier Particles, also known as Anti-Ethernano, can deprive those of Ethernano by feeding on it and contaminating it, thus causing anyone submerged in it to be poisoned and weakening their Magic Power. Should the amount of Ethernano within living beings be nearly gone, they are subjected to Magic Deficiency Disease, where they suffer great pain and potentially death unless properly treated. Living organisms cannot live in areas of extremely concentrated Ethernano, as it apparently has detrimental effects upon the structure of the body. Anti Magic naturally opposes any mana and magic it comes into contact with, so, in general, only someone without any magic power can wield it. The Demon-Dweller Sword, however, has shown the ability not only to impart the magic-nullifying properties of Anti Magic onto magic that the sword has drawn from allies but also to share Anti Magic with allies while still allowing them to use other magic. Despite being opposite energies, Anti Magic can function like magic and be used to replicate certain techniques to achieve similar-if not the same-effects.
I had this discussion with a friend before and there I said Asta needs to learn habd to hand combat as it would definitely help in covering or reducing the limitations of his ANTI MAGIC, I was wven so impressed that I put it in the same park as Imagine Breaker a power of an esper named toma Kamijou but over 150 episodes in and to my disappointment Asta has not learned any type of swapping hands at all. Hard work didication etc all that jazz is endearing and I love the series but as a fan of fighting arts it is safe to say that without Anti Magic Asta would be nothing no matter how buff he gets at this point its as if ANTI MAGIC does everything for him lets be honest here. But I guess it aintely his fault I mean the verse pretty much shouts Super skill or Magic is everything as a result nobody gives a damn about martial ats which results to their minds being blown everytime ASTA uses his physicality wtf!!!! With that said with Natsu it is different even without his magic the guy is insanely fast and stong and you can tell that he really took the time to learn martial arts. Hell he is swapping hands with the likes of Gray, Erza and Gildarts everyday. That says a lot. In the end Anti magic is cool but as Goku says having power means nothing if you cannot hit your opponent. Looking at the comments people are quick to say asta anti magic but serious question based on Asta's fighting power so far he tends to use his swords to block shots. Impressive those swords are tough but can it even handle a barrage of strikes from a guy who beat a war god a 100 foot tall at least with just his punches???? Can Asta's sword block that? For how long????
Anti Magic naturally opposes any mana and magic it comes into contact with, so, in general, only someone without any magic power can wield it. The Demon-Dweller Sword, however, has shown the ability not only to impart the magic-nullifying properties of Anti Magic onto magic that the sword has drawn from allies[6][7] but also to share Anti Magic with allies while still allowing them to use other magic.[8]
Anti Magic can nullify magical attacks and any attributes made, composed or manifested of Mana, but according to Lucius Zogratis, the only way to counter Anti Magic is with brute force (non-magic attacks) or physical attacks enhanced with magic (Mana).
Asta 10m natsu 100m+, natsu fast and strong than asta, no need use E.N.D dragon force or 1 skill fast and strong is enough, natsu use lacrima there should asta cant anti magic of the natsu, and natsu can burn anti magic of the asta
Anti Magic naturally opposes any mana and magic it comes into contact with, so, in general, only someone without any magic power can wield it. The Demon-Dweller Sword, however, has shown the ability not only to impart the magic-nullifying properties of Anti Magic onto magic that the sword has drawn from allies[6][7] but also to share Anti Magic with allies while still allowing them to use other magic.[8]
Anti Magic can nullify magical attacks and any attributes made, composed or manifested of Mana, but according to Lucius Zogratis, the only way to counter Anti Magic is with brute force (non-magic attacks) or physical attacks enhanced with magic (Mana).
Astas true union mode blocks all magic attacks no matter what natsu does. And he legit obliterated lucifero who is way stronger then anyone in the naruto/boruto verse and i doubt that natsu is stronger then lucifero. So i’d say Asta wins
@Naruto Natsu maybe u are on drugs lucifero claps them easily buddy they can't even go near him cuz of his gravitational barrier they would just get crushed in that much of pressure
aknologia choud blocke dragon slayer majic and natsu killd hem plush asta can t erase all of the majic and natsu has the power to any kind of flmes even lighning and hes faster and sttronger
They dont have much of a difference so yeah natsu win but doesn't slap If you wanna feel the slap then see ichigo that's called slap or goku or Anos they clap and slap
@@spotlightnow9326 bro no estamos hablando de otros personajes tonto estamos hablando de natsu y asta no de otras cosas te acavas de ganar una bofeteada por ser bruto y decir eso sin nada que ver esos personajes 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Nice video but i'm read the 100 years quest and..... I think Asta stronger. Asta can nullifing natsu's magic power with one devil union slash(nacht union mode) I think Asta stronger plus he can slash the infinite. Plus easily defeat lilith and naamah who's burned and freezed everything.
1. Anti magic doesn't matter, Natsu without magic power can beat Asta. It's all about level and pure strength. Natsu use single bare hand to block Asta sword just like what Lucifero did to Asta. Tell me why Lucifero who uses magic can block Asta sword slash? Natsu even can one shot Lucifero. 2. Those two devils can burn and freeze anything but can't burn and freeze the seven gates that blocked between humanworld and underworld. The devil can't even destroys the seven gates. They need to wait for the gate open then come out from underworld. 3. The gate are opened is because using sacrifice stuff (Yami and William) and make a ritual to open instead of devils own magic power to open the gates. So all devils can't destroy the seven gates. 4. Natsu can one shot Lucifero and all supreme devils. Natsu > Asta currently,
Well this is so good but i know natsu is very powerful wizard he's dragon Slayer but don't forget asta can cancel his magic and asta has devils powers a dragon Slayer cannot beat a devil
Not even close. You guys keep comparing Mana and Ethernano as the same property, even if Asta can cancel magic, that's only applicable to his verse, it would not work on Natsu whose dimensionality is far higher than any BC character. Natsu's flame is a combination of every type of element existing in the universe, it's not a pure magic that can be affected by a low level anti magic. He already fought countless enemies who were far superior in using Anti-magic than Asta. The conclusion is this. Base Wendy> Black Clover.
@@lostsignature9535 bro asta can cut any kind of magic and natsu not using elements its elemental magic not elements and why don't you just go and check their tiers Natsu tier is 7B , Asta tier is 6A maybe 6B Asta tier is higher than natsu ok and don't make things youself ok that he can cut his magic or not i told you all written facts you can even search this and its stated i manga also and yo can go and see their tiers for yourself this proves that natsu can't beat him
@@manojkumar75201 What are you smoking? If you're planning to use the tier in Vs Battle then don't bother. Natsu is easily 5-A in his base, Asta is only 6-A with his Devil Union. And like I said don't compare both verses magic as equal, FT is using Ethernano as their source of fuel, while BC is using Mana. Try all you want, I can debunk everything you'll throw. And stop acting almighty, bruh. You sucks at scaling, you're probably debating me right now without any knowledge about both verses.
@@manojkumar75201 And their tier is never been stated in the manga or anime. What did Lucifero state that he's a fodder 8A? Don't make up random BS just to wank Asta, and make something more acceptable with proper backing.
@@apocrypha5062 im not sure if you watched black clover you know how strong and fast is Asta? + using his swords and using black form his strenght and speed even increases
@@apocrypha5062 ... Have you even seen black clover? MUTHA FUCKA asta be doing Saitama workout everyday 10 times the amount Saitama does. What's Natsu do, goof off and burns shit lol
@@actualbliss i watched Well not all but about 74% of fairy tail and maybe its later but yet i didnt see any thing that would say that he is immune to antymagic
Maybe jm late to say this but for me natsu will win well yeah asta can cancel natsu's magic but natsu is END and his power is from a curse and yup he is far way stronger than asta
Anti Magic naturally opposes any mana and magic it comes into contact with, so, in general, only someone without any magic power can wield it. The Demon-Dweller Sword, however, has shown the ability not only to impart the magic-nullifying properties of Anti Magic onto magic that the sword has drawn from allies[6][7] but also to share Anti Magic with allies while still allowing them to use other magic.[8]
Anti Magic can nullify magical attacks and any attributes made, composed or manifested of Mana, but according to Lucius Zogratis, the only way to counter Anti Magic is with brute force (non-magic attacks) or physical attacks enhanced with magic (Mana).
@Asta Natsu Talk about strength, Natsu is higher than Asta. it's fact. He beat Aldoron who is so huge size, Aldoron is so much bigger than any BC characters and so much bigger than four kingdoms together combined.
@Asta Natsu Can you tell me which character from BC is bigger than Aldoron. The answer is no. Natsu can destroy four kingdoms together combined continent.
@Asta Natsu Lucifero who uses magic beat Asta who uses anti magic....lol just admit it bro. you can't accept it, it proven that magic user can beat asta. Lucifero has mana and using gravity magic is fact, so Natsu can did the same thing as what Lucifero beat Asta to almost die.
Bro it's already stated both Asta and Natsu are same tier Multi- Continental so neither of them beat each other. Also Note, this ain't Asta vs a non magic user this Natsu fool literally has magic😂 so Asta easily nullifies his spells. Both Natsu and Asta are Ftl so idk Asta >= Natsu
Actually I kinda agree as of right now natsu > Asta although natsu burning through time is a stupid argument cause namah and Lilith burn through concepts which is time itself lol 😂 and they were the weakest supreme devils at that 💀 for now I’ll put Asta below natsu but it doesn’t even matter we all know by the end of this arc or later in the story Asta will be much stronger then natsu 🤷🏽♂️
@@dangreen5921 it's debatable but u just reminded me of those retards that say he burns time itself 😂 like what tf Asta literally nullifies Natsu's magic what Natsu gonna do burn 'Anti-magic'??smh Just like u said the weakest Supreme devils out of 10 whole devils literally could interfere , burn and freeze concepts💀 there's no question the king of devils isn't playing games. Lucifero >>>>> Natsu
@@dangreen5921 fr 😂 what they gonna say?? He gonna burn gravity??🥴 Lucifero will just warp space and 0 attacks are touching him. If Dante was able to warp antimagic ( ep162) it scares me what the king of devils will do💀
@@dangreen5921 also the Black clover hate is unreal, some fools I saw on tiktok comments were tryna say us Black clover fans be hyping Lucifero too much and " Deku simply solos"💀 I was like Lucifero probably solos Mha verse😭
I say for now natsu is stronger but he’s definitely not that much stronger he should be around 50,000,000 if anything but still great list. Natsu burning through time really isn’t impressive the first floor supreme devils were able to do that and asta clapped them with ease 💀 but yea for now natsu > Asta
@@joz.x1747 right now 1/3 megicula I think 😅 but by the end of this arc I’m sure I would be Yuno > 1/3 megicula now even at the end of this arc I doubt Yuno would be stronger then full power megicula just only 1/3 megicula
@@apocrypha5062 no he can’t lol 😂 it’s fine to say natsu > characters in black clover but one shot? 💀 ur clearly a fanboy there’s no point in us even having a decent conversation have a good one we haven’t even seen all the supreme devils 😂
@@dangreen5921 Yes, of course he can. Natsu defeated Bluenote who has gravity magic same as Lucifero gravity magic. Lucifero gravity magic is useless to Natsu. But Lucifero with his single bare hand can block Devil Union Asta, Which means Natsu > Lucifero > Asta. Understand bro? Natsu can stand up and move in graviry magic area, it proof that Lucifero gravity magic is not work on Natsu who even can move in time stop. Asta can't move in time stop and gravity magic area.
@@dangreen5921 Natsu can eat Nahamah's demon fire magic and Lilith's demon ice magic. Natsu beat these two devils for sure, because dragon slayers can eat other elements. elements is useless to dragon slayers. Natsu had eaten black flame which is fire god slayer magic and proof it already in the story.
Anti Magic naturally opposes any mana and magic it comes into contact with, so, in general, only someone without any magic power can wield it. The Demon-Dweller Sword, however, has shown the ability not only to impart the magic-nullifying properties of Anti Magic onto magic that the sword has drawn from allies[6][7] but also to share Anti Magic with allies while still allowing them to use other magic.[8]
Anti Magic naturally opposes any mana and magic it comes into contact with, so, in general, only someone without any magic power can wield it. The Demon-Dweller Sword, however, has shown the ability not only to impart the magic-nullifying properties of Anti Magic onto magic that the sword has drawn from allies[6][7] but also to share Anti Magic with allies while still allowing them to use other magic.[8]
@@sofiamisabe3980natsu use curse in end mode and natsu can burn anti magic (edolas, vs future rogue) and natsu's scales are impenetrable (it's not magic)
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everyone who say Asta can cancel natsu magic remember that in black clover magic is a power that people are born with and in fairy tal magic can be learned and made with ether nans in the air. thus asta can't cancel natsu's magic
If you know how Power Scalling Works then you must know how Verse Equalisation works. It is when you put power mechanics of 2 verses (Example Black clover and Fairy tail) and make them the same. Which means Natsu and Asta would have the same type of magic which means Asta could Erase it with his Anti Magic.
@@karshaks5142was just about to comment this. because if this wasn’t the cast than neither one of their magic would work on each other. so you have to make the power system the same
plus END doesn't use magic but curse instead
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@@Tragedy_Happened nuh uh
Curse Power (呪力 Juryoku): Referred to his as E.N.D. Power, (ＥＮＤイーエヌディーパワー Ī Enu Dī Pawā)[130] Natsu as an Etherious is able to access his demonic power after the mass of Magic in chest was enlarged by Brandish's Command T. Like all Etherious, his desire to kill his creator in Zeref is activated, however he still retains his ability to think and function properly to his will. His arms and facial features become more demonic, while his attack power increases. He has been seen to control it at will when he deactivated it after Erza stopped his battle with Gray.[131][132] This demonic power was described to be strong enough to surpass the Gods due to Natsu being able to use it in order to move freely on his own while inside a time-distorted world made by Dimaria which was taught to her by the God of Time himself.
Now this is what I'm excited to see, i know natsu can burn through time but still, this is totally enjoyable and can't wait to see more asta in this like asta vs boruto and asta vs deku, especially more lucifero scale videos yes!!
Anti-Magic can nullify magical attacks and any attributes made, composed or manifested of Mana, but according to Lucius Zogratis, the only way to counter Anti-Magic is with brute force (non-magic attacks) or physical attacks enhanced with magic (Mana).
Lucifero has 3 statements(Nacht, Narrator, and Tabata/Data book) and a feat from the manga.
Tabata/Data book Statments for: The pair fought in spade country, defeating the king who was about to destroy/ruin/wreck the world, gaining accomplishment as a magic.
Feats: Lucifero fuse with the Tree of Qliphoth(Dark magic + World Tree Magic) to aid in his manifestation. The Tree of Qliphoth is a channel between both worlds that branches throughout the levels of the underworld. The Tree of Qliphoth scales to the size of the underworld or greater. Which in turn would scale to the size of the BC earth low balled or BC Universe. This would even make would even Worm Lucifero and 50% Lucifero (Planetary-Universal+) since he fuse with the Tree of Qliphoth.
(TDU Asta>)
Lucius gain 100% Lucifero by eating both of his hearts then spent 15month raiding the underworld getting stronger. Later on PDU Asta(PDU>PDU Asta>Base Lucius>>>Worm and 50-100% Lucifero)
Land of The Rising Sun arc:
Later on Asta began his training to master Zetten an advance version of Ki were the user can channel all of there yoryoku/magic thoughout there body and release it all at once or at a specific output increase their power 20-100x.
Day 1: Asta fights base Ichika for the first time and Asta says Devil union would be useless against her putting her above current Base Lucius and Lucifero that we seen fight Asta.
(Base Ichika>>>Asta Forms)
Day 2-3: Asta trains with The Ryuzen
(Ryuzen>Asta)
Day 4: PDU Asta was equal to Black Musha Ichika form but losses in zetten exchange. After that battle trains Asta against the strongest member of the Ryuzen 7 "Mushouga".
(Mushouga>Ryuzen>=Asta)
After his training he Mastered Zetten that was said to take decades to learn. Asta can now see attacks attacks before they come and make his attack more powerful and precise then ever. He also defeated 2 Paladins(Created by Lucius using soul magic) one being Sister Lily who surpassed 100% beelzebub putting her and the other paladins on or above Planetary+.
(Lucius>Mastered Zetten Asta>Mushouga>Paladins>=Ryuzen>Sacred Dragon>Lucifero)
Asta would scale to Large Planet-Universal+ lvl MFTL+ to Infinite Speeds.
3 Uni+ Feats:
Dorothy Glamour world: being stated to be Infinite in size and able to spawn real moon and stars.
Yami destroyed it nearly instantly with Dimension slash(HAX) and surpasses that with Death thrust(A.P).
Zenon: he created a Subspace/hyperspace with spatial magic and yuno destroyed 4 dimensional space.(Uni+)
Lucifero: fuse with the Tree of Qliphoth which is a channel between both worlds that branches throughout the levels of the underworld and the underworld scale to (Planetary-Universal+)
Asta>
Anti Magic is type of Arcane Stage Magic. Arcane Stage Magic can effect physical/Invisible/Intangible concepts while also being above all effects and ignore laws of physics stated by Gaja and Lolopechika.
Asta slams
BC speed scaling:
Note: The magic power is causely link and correlates to a person Speed, Durability and Power so if your magic power get 2x stronger so does your other stats. This was shown though Zora's trap magic, other Amplifies/Transformation, Soul chain death match, and is stated in the guide/datebook.
Magna has FTL+ combat speeds because he's able to keep with Black Asta and Ruffle in the Elf arc. This Black Asta is very superior in speed to base asta who was able to parry light attacks from Elf Raya. Elf Raya being many times more powerful than suppressed base Raya who was greater in speed than patri who has several lights speed statements. Elf arc Mereoleona was able to easy react, parry, and destroy Elf Raya's copy light magic which was calculated to be over 28x FTL+. Elf arc Asta was able to blitz pass Mereoleona spell in Base which means Black Asta would also scale over 28x FTL+. Magna briefly surpass black asta in the middle of the 6 month timeskip as when the Asta gets fold by a Magic Spider Beast(MSB) Leopold did well against it. Leopold then got stronger and fought these magic golems and struggle against them in both speed and power but Magna could blitz one of them and 1 shot them.
Later on Magna gets his manic mana state again which is stated to be more than 25x increase in power in the LN. This makes Magna in the middle of timeskip 700x FTL or MFTL. This is useful because Spade arc Magna is 500x weaker than 100% Dante stated Magna. This would make 100% Dante over 350,000x FTL or MFTL+. The Twin Devils are little stronger then the 100% Triad and the twins are more than 2x stronger when fused making them 700,000x FTL. Megicula is over 100x stronger than 100% Dante when she use a fraction of her power to make Hundreds of Devil disciples and each of them are stronger than 100% Dante and she weaker/slower than Lucifero at his weakess state. 50% Lucifero considerably get over 2x faster and stronger as he parried his own magic doubled redirected at him putting him over 70 millionX FTL. 100% Lucifero would be more than 2x stronger than 50% Lucifero making 140 millionX FTL. Lucius ate Lucifero hearts and gain 100% of his power on top of his own which would be more than (quadrupling/4x) it's because 50% Lucifero had both insane levels Physical and Magical power but he only had half of each in the spade saga. Which means any physical attack or movement that is renforced by Magic would be Quadrupled but spells and pure magic attacks would only be doubled. This would get Lucius at over 280 millionX FTL.
Later in BC Japan Asta learns Zetten which is a 20-100x multipler base on translations being 20x, 40x, and 100x. PDU Asta scales to base Lucius meaning he would be (20x)5.6BillionX/ (40x)11.2BillionX/ (100x)280BillionX FTL with Zetten. Asta would fight Base Ichika in his Full black form and loses then Asta stated DU would have been useless against her. Asta later Fight her in his PDU form which is stated by Ichika to be equal to her Black Musha form but Asta loses in zetten exchange. This would mean Zetten Ichika is 20-100x stronger than PDU Asta meaning she would be 112BillionX/ 448BillionX/ 2.8TrillionX FTL. Later on Ichika would need Zetten to slice one of the 5 headed dragon head off. Yurul saw this happen it didn't rouse his fighting Instincts but wheb he saw PDU Asta it did rouse his fighting Instincts. This implies Asta training against Yusoga made him 40-200x than Black Musha Ichika with Zetten in his PDU form + his Zetten. This would make Asta 4.4TrillionX/ 35.8TrillionX/ 560TrillionX FTL.
He had another 3days of training off screen so he would be even faster and stronger to scale to Lucius and Yuno. Asta is in the higher end of MFTL+.
Asta blitz
So,
Strength-Asta
He can destroy infinite number of dimensions with his infinite Equinox which puts him on low complex multiversal - low Outerversal.
Speed-Asta
Because Asta scales way above yno who moved in stopped time causing immesirable speed.
BIQ/IQ Self Explain
Physical Strength-Asta
Because he can hold a sword with his bare hands which are size of a
country
Duribility-Asta
Because he has stronger body and I am not sure he gets this point
Ap - Asta
Because Asta is way stronger than Yami and Yami destroyed a infinite-Sized dimension with his death thrust which is ap
Abilities-Asta
Anti-Magic,Anti-Magic Sharing,Demon Slayer,Demon Dweller, Infinite slash Equinox and etc
Stamina-Asta
Because Asta wants to be the wizard king and he wants to do what ever he wants just to become the wizard king
For example-
10000 push ups Asta will do that and lot more
Hax
Asta can slash through many infinite sized dimension with one slash
I got these information by reading the black clover manga
Since Dorothy alone was able to create an infinite space with stars literally
And was backed up even further when she opened ba rift in this same infinite plane that contained another universe in it
And she goes ahead to recreate this infinite dimension multiple times as it got destroyed by people stronger than her
Julius at base was able to wrap pocket dimensions that was supposed to trap him
And this even goes further
When manifesting lucifero was able to fuse himself with the world tree to holding multiple dimensions in it and asta was able to use infinite slash to separate him from the tree and destroyed the tree in the process
Lucius plan is to fuse the world with the after life and the under world once his transformation is complete which literally puts him at low multiversal (low balled)
Yuno on the other other hand was powerful enough to beat Lucius (clone) who scales higher than 100% Lucifero which puts him a low (universal )
Each paladin were stated to be relatively stronger than 100% lucifero
Asta was able to beat two of them with trying which relatively scales him at base to ( low universe) at base literally
With infinite speed on par with never land I don't know where all this low ball is coming from but asta is definitely onshoting natsu
Which his time hax was literally based on emotional amp
And it's literally irrelevant in a versus battle and
The speed and power and power scaling in black clover is broken
I see many people around tryna low-ball all this feats
But it doesn't count since it has already been started mutiple time in the anime,manga and even in the databook
Thank you for being so PRECISE people who are like you should be rewarded because there are many people who just choose their favourite character and say they win
i can’t and don’t want to argue that😭🤣asta is slay. but i’m assuming you read current manga chapters…where would you scale mereo in the black clover verse. bc she’s literally pure mana now and surpassed every human limit lol
BC
Anti Magic naturally opposes any mana and magic it comes into contact with, so, in general, only someone without any magic power can wield it. The Demon-Dweller Sword, however, has shown the ability not only to impart the magic-nullifying properties of Anti Magic onto magic that the sword has drawn from allies[6][7] but also to share Anti Magic with allies while still allowing them to use other magic.[8]
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Ethernano acts similar to radiation, where there is a safe limit of it that beings can handle before experiencing adverse side effects. As such, Living organisms cannot live in areas of extremely concentrated Ethernano, as it apparently has detrimental effects upon the structure of the body.[8] An untrained Human who gains too much Ethernano into their bodies will cause to go ill with a high fever.[9] As Magic is tied to a Mage’s life-force, over use of Magic Power to near depletion also decreases the Mages stamina and becomes exhausted. Years of overexerting their Magic Power causes the body to develop a malignant mass in the form of an Anti-Ethernano Tumor.
To obtain Ethernano, the Mages in training must undergo intense meditation as the most effective means of absorbing it from the air around them. Training their own Nervous System and Wisdom for Magic, thus becoming a become a vessel for Magic Power. Every Mage has a "container" inside their body where the Ethernano is stored that determines the limits of their Magic Power. If the case becomes empty, Ethernano will automatically come from the atmosphere and enters the Mage's body and after a while, their Magic Power is restored. The amount and size varies between individuals, one can expand their through further meditation training.
BC
Mana is an important aspect of every mage that has ever lived, as it is their source of "magic power" 「魔力 maryoku」, which is used to cast magic spells. This energy is naturally existing and flowing in the environment and within everyone.[1] Due to this, it is common knowledge that everyone is able to use magic to some extent. Individuals born with strong affinity for mana and with exceptional magic power are said to be "loved by mana".[2] At the same time, people who do not possess any mana and are unable to use magic at all are an extremely rare occurrence[3] and are said to be "hated by mana".
Hey bro where's 100 year quest natsu but overall good video.
@Asta Natsu but you don't realise what if we compare black clover to one piece and with that logic we have to wait for black clover to reach 1000 ep and what if we compared gurren lagann which has like 27 ep which has Simon the digger who becomes multiversal, low multi i think in 27 ep and we compare it to black cover 27 ep.
You see it doesn't make any sense so we compare characters with there strongest forms and feat plus writers can make anyone op in like 1 chapter or ep, that's why it only far to compare them at there strongest vs strongest form.
Natsu Win
I'm sorry natsu claps asta hands down natsu have greater feats
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Ethernano acts similar to radiation, where there is a safe limit of it that beings can handle before experiencing adverse side effects. As such, Living organisms cannot live in areas of extremely concentrated Ethernano, as it apparently has detrimental effects upon the structure of the body.[8] An untrained Human who gains too much Ethernano into their bodies will cause to go ill with a high fever.[9] As Magic is tied to a Mage’s life-force, over use of Magic Power to near depletion also decreases the Mages stamina and becomes exhausted. Years of overexerting their Magic Power causes the body to develop a malignant mass in the form of an Anti-Ethernano Tumor.
An Anti-Ethernano Tumor develops over time, after years of consistent Magic abuse; the symptoms appear to be acute despite the time required for the mass to develop to a detrimental size. Said symptoms appear to be deadly, as very shortly after the tumor had festered long enough inside its victim, Natsu Dragneel,[1] he fell comatose and his heartbeat could no longer be heard. The only known way to remove the tumor is via immediate surgery, however, it has been said that no surgeon in Ishgar has the required skill, and even Magic the likes of Sky Dragon Slayer Magic and Sky God Slayer Magic are ineffective at mitigating the malign effects the tumor causes. However, a Magic that manipulates mass can be used to shrink the tumor to a size so miniscule that it would render it benign.
To utilize Magic, a Mage must use the Magic Power (魔力 Maryoku) in their body, which is composed of Ethernano (エーテルナノ Ēterunano), the source of Magic Power for all Mages. Every Mage has a container of Ethernano inside their body that determines the limits of their Magic Power. In the case that it becomes empty, Ethernano will come from the atmosphere and enter the Mage's body and, after a while, their Magic Power shall return to normal. However, recent studies have identified another, unused, part of a Mage's Magic container that contains a large amount of dormant power: the Second Origin (二番原セカンド・オリジン Sekando Orijin). If a Mage somehow manages to unlock their Second Origin, they will then receive an enormous boost in Magic Power,[15] or they can wait until the right moment to unleash the Magic Power of their Second Origin in order to gain an advantage in the battle.
Training
Through intense meditation, Mages train their own Nervous System and Wisdom for Magic, where the former to become a vessel for Magic Power by drawing in Ethernano from the air, as well as a way to increase it, attempting to feel the earth, the wind, their energy through their skin and breathing deep enough to be one with nature. Then the Mages materializes the Magic within and releases it. The strength of a Mage's emotions are an important factor to use Magic. There are few exceptions for those who draw Magic by being physically active, as it can better set their heart and mind more free.[20][11] Though this would leave some Mages to neglect their physical training, being vulnerable to those with superior physical abilities.
Asta Anti Magic can nullify magical attacks and any attributes made, composed or manifested of Mana, but according to Lucius Zogratis, the only way to counter Anti Magic is with brute force (non-magic attacks) or physical attacks enhanced with magic (Mana).
wait can is Asta immune to curse
I guess not cruse will Effect him and Spirit Art to
Curses can be rendered ineffective through exorcism abilities that purges the Cursed Energy. Devil Slayers, also known as Exorcist Mages use their Devil Slayer Magic to nullify Cursed techniques. Devil Slayers also exhibit a degree of immunity towards Curses.
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Curses can be rendered ineffective through exorcism abilities that purges the Cursed Energy. Devil Slayers, also known as Exorcist Mages use their Devil Slayer Magic to nullify Cursed techniques. Devil Slayers also exhibit a degree of immunity towards Curses.
wELL I THIK IT IS WELL DONE BUT WE KNOOW aSTA WILL GET ANOTHER TRANSFORMATION...............
can only block mana not eternano
The usage of Ethernano can be rendered ineffective when in the presence of Anti-Magic effects, such as Magic Sealing Stones and various kinds of Nullification Magic. In more fatal cases such as Magical Barrier Particles, also known as Anti-Ethernano, can deprive those of Ethernano by feeding on it and contaminating it, thus causing anyone submerged in it to be poisoned and weakening their Magic Power. Should the amount of Ethernano within living beings be nearly gone, they are subjected to Magic Deficiency Disease, where they suffer great pain and potentially death unless properly treated.
Living organisms cannot live in areas of extremely concentrated Ethernano, as it apparently has detrimental effects upon the structure of the body.
Anti Magic naturally opposes any mana and magic it comes into contact with, so, in general, only someone without any magic power can wield it. The Demon-Dweller Sword, however, has shown the ability not only to impart the magic-nullifying properties of Anti Magic onto magic that the sword has drawn from allies but also to share Anti Magic with allies while still allowing them to use other magic.
Despite being opposite energies, Anti Magic can function like magic and be used to replicate certain techniques to achieve similar-if not the same-effects.
I had this discussion with a friend before and there I said Asta needs to learn habd to hand combat as it would definitely help in covering or reducing the limitations of his ANTI MAGIC, I was wven so impressed that I put it in the same park as Imagine Breaker a power of an esper named toma Kamijou but over 150 episodes in and to my disappointment Asta has not learned any type of swapping hands at all. Hard work didication etc all that jazz is endearing and I love the series but as a fan of fighting arts it is safe to say that without Anti Magic Asta would be nothing no matter how buff he gets at this point its as if ANTI MAGIC does everything for him lets be honest here.
But I guess it aintely his fault I mean the verse pretty much shouts Super skill or Magic is everything as a result nobody gives a damn about martial ats which results to their minds being blown everytime ASTA uses his physicality wtf!!!! With that said with Natsu it is different even without his magic the guy is insanely fast and stong and you can tell that he really took the time to learn martial arts. Hell he is swapping hands with the likes of Gray, Erza and Gildarts everyday. That says a lot. In the end Anti magic is cool but as Goku says having power means nothing if you cannot hit your opponent. Looking at the comments people are quick to say asta anti magic but serious question based on Asta's fighting power so far he tends to use his swords to block shots. Impressive those swords are tough but can it even handle a barrage of strikes from a guy who beat a war god a 100 foot tall at least with just his punches???? Can Asta's sword block that? For how long????
Anti Magic naturally opposes any mana and magic it comes into contact with, so, in general, only someone without any magic power can wield it. The Demon-Dweller Sword, however, has shown the ability not only to impart the magic-nullifying properties of Anti Magic onto magic that the sword has drawn from allies[6][7] but also to share Anti Magic with allies while still allowing them to use other magic.[8]
Anti Magic can nullify magical attacks and any attributes made, composed or manifested of Mana, but according to Lucius Zogratis, the only way to counter Anti Magic is with brute force (non-magic attacks) or physical attacks enhanced with magic (Mana).
Asta 10m natsu 100m+, natsu fast and strong than asta, no need use E.N.D dragon force or 1 skill fast and strong is enough, natsu use lacrima there should asta cant anti magic of the natsu, and natsu can burn anti magic of the asta
Anti magic > flame magic
Asta > Natsu
Lol read fairy tail natsu beat 2 time anti magic user and end use curse not magic so natsu rape the verse
@@lamoula9328, what did you shit, squalor?
can only block mana not eternano
Anti Magic naturally opposes any mana and magic it comes into contact with, so, in general, only someone without any magic power can wield it. The Demon-Dweller Sword, however, has shown the ability not only to impart the magic-nullifying properties of Anti Magic onto magic that the sword has drawn from allies[6][7] but also to share Anti Magic with allies while still allowing them to use other magic.[8]
Anti Magic can nullify magical attacks and any attributes made, composed or manifested of Mana, but according to Lucius Zogratis, the only way to counter Anti Magic is with brute force (non-magic attacks) or physical attacks enhanced with magic (Mana).
Astas true union mode blocks all magic attacks no matter what natsu does. And he legit obliterated lucifero who is way stronger then anyone in the naruto/boruto verse and i doubt that natsu is stronger then lucifero. So i’d say Asta wins
Lucifero was using half of his power tho
@@Random-oj4gk kk
@Naruto Natsu maybe u are on drugs lucifero claps them easily buddy they can't even go near him cuz of his gravitational barrier they would just get crushed in that much of pressure
aknologia choud blocke dragon slayer majic and natsu killd hem plush asta can t erase all of the majic and natsu has the power to any kind of flmes even lighning and hes faster and sttronger
@@pallabidutta9172 natsu withstood gravitational pressure before plus natsu alone would be enough to handle lucifero
There is no way Asta is a match for Natsu just end the debate
wow finally found one carrecter who can defeat Asta dmmnnnn
Natsu slaps 🥱🔥💥
They dont have much of a difference so yeah natsu win but doesn't slap
If you wanna feel the slap then see ichigo that's called slap or goku or Anos they clap and slap
@@spotlightnow9326 bro no estamos hablando de otros personajes tonto estamos hablando de natsu y asta no de otras cosas te acavas de ganar una bofeteada por ser bruto y decir eso sin nada que ver esos personajes 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Nice video but i'm read the 100 years quest and.....
I think Asta stronger. Asta can nullifing natsu's magic power with one devil union slash(nacht union mode)
I think Asta stronger plus he can slash the infinite.
Plus easily defeat lilith and naamah who's burned and freezed everything.
1. Anti magic doesn't matter, Natsu without magic power can beat Asta. It's all about level and pure strength. Natsu use single bare hand to block Asta sword just like what Lucifero did to Asta. Tell me why Lucifero who uses magic can block Asta sword slash? Natsu even can one shot Lucifero.
2. Those two devils can burn and freeze anything but can't burn and freeze the seven gates that blocked between humanworld and underworld. The devil can't even destroys the seven gates. They need to wait for the gate open then come out from underworld.
3. The gate are opened is because using sacrifice stuff (Yami and William) and make a ritual to open instead of devils own magic power to open the gates. So all devils can't destroy the seven gates.
4. Natsu can one shot Lucifero and all supreme devils. Natsu > Asta currently,
@@apocrypha5062 natsu don't one shot lucifero because asta > natsu and asta loose vs lucifero
@@apocrypha5062 asta can slash the infinite
@@apocrypha5062 so asta is powerfull than natsu
@@yoyo-dev8771 exactly, the slash asta did with yami's sword is just like yami's dimension slash equinox but WAY more powerful
Natsu probably stronger but Asta isnt that far behind
Natsu 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
id say this was true but natsu was slightly overrated in the beginning
their mid high difference
Well this is so good but i know natsu is very powerful wizard he's dragon Slayer but don't forget asta can cancel his magic and asta has devils powers a dragon Slayer cannot beat a devil
Not even close. You guys keep comparing Mana and Ethernano as the same property, even if Asta can cancel magic, that's only applicable to his verse, it would not work on Natsu whose dimensionality is far higher than any BC character.
Natsu's flame is a combination of every type of element existing in the universe, it's not a pure magic that can be affected by a low level anti magic. He already fought countless enemies who were far superior in using Anti-magic than Asta.
The conclusion is this. Base Wendy> Black Clover.
@@lostsignature9535 bro asta can cut any kind of magic and natsu not using elements its elemental magic not elements and why don't you just go and check their tiers
Natsu tier is 7B , Asta tier is 6A maybe 6B
Asta tier is higher than natsu ok and don't make things youself ok that he can cut his magic or not i told you all written facts you can even search this and its stated i manga also and yo can go and see their tiers for yourself this proves that natsu can't beat him
@@manojkumar75201 What are you smoking? If you're planning to use the tier in Vs Battle then don't bother. Natsu is easily 5-A in his base, Asta is only 6-A with his Devil Union. And like I said don't compare both verses magic as equal, FT is using Ethernano as their source of fuel, while BC is using Mana. Try all you want, I can debunk everything you'll throw. And stop acting almighty, bruh. You sucks at scaling, you're probably debating me right now without any knowledge about both verses.
@@manojkumar75201 And their tier is never been stated in the manga or anime. What did Lucifero state that he's a fodder 8A? Don't make up random BS just to wank Asta, and make something more acceptable with proper backing.
@@lostsignature9535 well my bad i mixed up their tiers with each other so originally natsu is stronger than him😂my bad man👍
Maybe natsu is stronger even alot but i am 20000% sure that Asta would win in their 1 v 1 fight becouse of antymagic
Natsu just using raw strength power can beat Asta, no need magic. anti magic is useless to someone who use raw strength power.
@@apocrypha5062 im not sure if you watched black clover you know how strong and fast is Asta? + using his swords and using black form his strenght and speed even increases
@@apocrypha5062 ... Have you even seen black clover? MUTHA FUCKA asta be doing Saitama workout everyday 10 times the amount Saitama does. What's Natsu do, goof off and burns shit lol
no natsu is immune to anti magic, this is what happens when u know nothing about the show
@@actualbliss i watched Well not all but about 74% of fairy tail and maybe its later but yet i didnt see any thing that would say that he is immune to antymagic
Maybe jm late to say this but for me natsu will win well yeah asta can cancel natsu's magic but natsu is END and his power is from a curse and yup he is far way stronger than asta
Dont forget that asta has 3 sword and each sword has a different abilities his not only anti magic
It was never confirmed Natsu's E.N.D. power is curse power. All E.N.D. was demonic claws, normal flames and smaller eyes 😂
ASTA win
Anti Magic naturally opposes any mana and magic it comes into contact with, so, in general, only someone without any magic power can wield it. The Demon-Dweller Sword, however, has shown the ability not only to impart the magic-nullifying properties of Anti Magic onto magic that the sword has drawn from allies[6][7] but also to share Anti Magic with allies while still allowing them to use other magic.[8]
Anti Magic can nullify magical attacks and any attributes made, composed or manifested of Mana, but according to Lucius Zogratis, the only way to counter Anti Magic is with brute force (non-magic attacks) or physical attacks enhanced with magic (Mana).
Natsu win he didnt need magic for fight
@Asta Natsu Natsu just using raw strength power can beat Asta, no need magic
@Asta Natsu Talk about strength, Natsu is higher than Asta. it's fact. He beat Aldoron who is so huge size, Aldoron is so much bigger than any BC characters and so much bigger than four kingdoms together combined.
@Asta Natsu Can you tell me which character from BC is bigger than Aldoron. The answer is no. Natsu can destroy four kingdoms together combined continent.
@Asta Natsu Lucifero who uses magic beat Asta who uses anti magic....lol just admit it bro. you can't accept it, it proven that magic user can beat asta. Lucifero has mana and using gravity magic is fact, so Natsu can did the same thing as what Lucifero beat Asta to almost die.
Cap
Fout
Bro it's already stated both Asta and Natsu are same tier Multi- Continental so neither of them beat each other.
Also Note, this ain't Asta vs a non magic user this Natsu fool literally has magic😂 so Asta easily nullifies his spells. Both Natsu and Asta are Ftl so idk
Asta >= Natsu
Actually I kinda agree as of right now natsu > Asta although natsu burning through time is a stupid argument cause namah and Lilith burn through concepts which is time itself lol 😂 and they were the weakest supreme devils at that 💀 for now I’ll put Asta below natsu but it doesn’t even matter we all know by the end of this arc or later in the story Asta will be much stronger then natsu 🤷🏽♂️
@@dangreen5921 it's debatable but u just reminded me of those retards that say he burns time itself 😂 like what tf Asta literally nullifies Natsu's magic
what Natsu gonna do burn 'Anti-magic'??smh
Just like u said the weakest Supreme devils out of 10 whole devils literally could interfere , burn and freeze concepts💀 there's no question the king of devils isn't playing games.
Lucifero >>>>> Natsu
@@ibravo9438 oh I definitely agree Lucifero > natsu with ease lmfao 🤣 that isn’t even a discussion and anyone who thinks differently is biased as hell
@@dangreen5921 fr 😂 what they gonna say?? He gonna burn gravity??🥴
Lucifero will just warp space and 0 attacks are touching him. If Dante was able to warp antimagic ( ep162) it scares me what the king of devils will do💀
@@dangreen5921 also the Black clover hate is unreal, some fools I saw on tiktok comments were tryna say us Black clover fans be hyping Lucifero too much and " Deku simply solos"💀
I was like Lucifero probably solos Mha verse😭
I say for now natsu is stronger but he’s definitely not that much stronger he should be around 50,000,000 if anything but still great list. Natsu burning through time really isn’t impressive the first floor supreme devils were able to do that and asta clapped them with ease 💀 but yea for now natsu > Asta
@@joz.x1747 right now 1/3 megicula I think 😅 but by the end of this arc I’m sure I would be Yuno > 1/3 megicula now even at the end of this arc I doubt Yuno would be stronger then full power megicula just only 1/3 megicula
Natsu can one shot Lucifero and all supreme devils. Natsu > Asta currently,
@@apocrypha5062 no he can’t lol 😂 it’s fine to say natsu > characters in black clover but one shot? 💀 ur clearly a fanboy there’s no point in us even having a decent conversation have a good one we haven’t even seen all the supreme devils 😂
@@dangreen5921 Yes, of course he can. Natsu defeated Bluenote who has gravity magic same as Lucifero gravity magic. Lucifero gravity magic is useless to Natsu. But Lucifero with his single bare hand can block Devil Union Asta, Which means Natsu > Lucifero > Asta. Understand bro? Natsu can stand up and move in graviry magic area, it proof that Lucifero gravity magic is not work on Natsu who even can move in time stop. Asta can't move in time stop and gravity magic area.
@@dangreen5921 Natsu can eat Nahamah's demon fire magic and Lilith's demon ice magic. Natsu beat these two devils for sure, because dragon slayers can eat other elements. elements is useless to dragon slayers. Natsu had eaten black flame which is fire god slayer magic and proof it already in the story.
Asta win bro
Anti Magic naturally opposes any mana and magic it comes into contact with, so, in general, only someone without any magic power can wield it. The Demon-Dweller Sword, however, has shown the ability not only to impart the magic-nullifying properties of Anti Magic onto magic that the sword has drawn from allies[6][7] but also to share Anti Magic with allies while still allowing them to use other magic.[8]
Anti Magic naturally opposes any mana and magic it comes into contact with, so, in general, only someone without any magic power can wield it. The Demon-Dweller Sword, however, has shown the ability not only to impart the magic-nullifying properties of Anti Magic onto magic that the sword has drawn from allies[6][7] but also to share Anti Magic with allies while still allowing them to use other magic.[8]
IF natsu didn't resort to magic, Asta beats him hands down.
Not true
Natsu can't win because he use magic, ASTA use antimagic and ASTA devil union infinite slash is stronger than Natsu 7 dragon fire
@@sofiamisabe3980natsu use curse in end mode and natsu can burn anti magic (edolas, vs future rogue) and natsu's scales are impenetrable (it's not magic)
@@lamoula9328ur fr comparing future rogue anti magic to Asta anti magic??? No way 💀💀 Asta dog walks the fairy tail verse
@@sofiamisabe3980 natsu doesn't use mana but eternano and curse