hi everyone before you come at me with some pitchforks (if you dont agree with what i was saying ofc) i just want you to know that I truly love Apex and want it to succeed. my complaining comes from pure frustration of sitting here and watching them make these poor decisions. i just want Apex to feel fun again, for everyone
Well you are a part of those bad decisions when video i shown with new scammy heirloom and deathbox, which cost a lot of money. That means you support what they do :)
@@Neszy I really don’t enjoy spending money on this game if i’m being honest, but i’ve definitely bought things for content purposes. It’s gonna be hard for everyone to collectively stop doing that, because a large of the player base buys things regardless of their decisions.
@@f0rbi you and other hundreds of content creators, and that's a big problem, when people who says they care about pricing of a battle pass but they spend 10-100x more on skins what that say to EA? "Well of course if they are paying for this garbage why wouldn't they pay for 20 bucks for a battle pass". That's why for me listening to streamers and UA-camrs talking about problems makes my eyes roll, cause they are a really big part of the problem and they don't even see that. But that's just my opinion.
@@Neszy I see what you’re saying, but when you look at the bigger picture, they make hundreds of millions of dollars every year. Do you really think a majority of that profit is from content creators specifically, or the player base that really enjoys the cosmetics? It’s tough. I get that content creators need to stop buying skins, but the player base as a whole does too. It’s not just us.
I'm so glad someone said it. It's not just the new battlepass that broke the camel's back cuz it's somewhat okay (still not buying it cuz the junk in there is trash), but the idea of dropping some sketchy price gouging scheme amidst all the other issues going on is appalling and telling of what their actual priorities are. I'll be fair and assume there are separate departments working on monetization and a team for security, and the monetization team dropped this at a bad time.
I feel as if we need very specific demands for Respawn/EA to meet before we as a community spend any more money on the game. Things like: Verification methods for players to mitigate cheaters i.e. the phone # verification, 2FA, ECT Frequent ban waves At least monthly communication from the public facing side of Respawn regarding the efforts of the above. i.e. How many cheaters are being banned? Are the current implementations effective or are more strategies being tested, ect. Live IT assistance - no more AI, no more 'community help forums', give us dedicated folks who know the backend of the game and are able to actually look into problems that the players come across.
For me the quads were something fresh after a long break from Apex and I have to say that I enjoyed them. I enjoyed thinking of ways to combine the characters and their abilities. In quads I felt like if someone got a knockdown there was actually still room for outplay. Yes it's possible in duos and trios but here I felt like it was more possible. Anyway, I understand your frustration with the game and I feel the same way. The problem is that there are still people who buy the pointless battle pass and when it turns out to be a success they stay with this version.
I have NEVER even gotten close to masters. I peaked at d4 in s11 and quit and came back in s18 and everytime i play im in lobbies full of masters. How is it that I can go to any game mode and constantly have to face players way better than me when im solo queueing and some of them are in 3stacks!!!! Yeah premade squads have an advantage. im ok with that. But why is everyone in my lobby masters plus?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!I hate that i like this game so much. They developed a new drug and they are trying to get as much out of their addicts as they can. It hurts so much. Like seriously. Its the weekend when everyone is on apex so why am I only seeing masters???? When most of the player base is on you expect a diverse skill range. If player count is up during prime time then why am i facing opponents that clearly outclass me EVERY GAME I PLAY BR or Mixtape?!?!
The game is great and a lot better than other FPS on the market. Cheaters are gonna ruin any F2P game unles they do kernel ban. They have gave so much new content in the past 9 months and we get a new map next month. Hoping they update ranked scoring/rules more next season. What funny is every community are complaining about their game just as Apex community is. XDefiant just released and people are already complaining about cheaters, net code, match making and their Season 1 content being mid
oh gosh, atm feeling pretty crappy. BUT, here's the thing apex is BY FAR the best most fun game I've ever played. lets say for the sake of argument that I decide boycotting apex is the right way to tell them I'm frustrated. In that scenario I'm not going to another game I'm just not gonna play games at all and I'm not gonna be happy about it. to me the battle pass stuff doesn't matter ok whatever I just won't have the battle pass going forward no real loss people rag on cheaters and there are a few ultra rare exceptions but this game is free to play they will be there Here's the thing that no one tells you about the cheaters tho... I almost never see one it's super rare and while ik I'm not very good at the game over all, I am well above average in skill level(and honestly I don't feel like I'm above average but sometimes we have to look at things from an outside perspective. Yesterday one of my randoms asked me if I was a hacker cause after he went down I 1v5d a team and then a third party). What that tells me that cheaters being as bad as they are are really only a major issue in the extreme top end of players. idk how other people feel, but for me, the constant complaining about cheaters from content creators burns me out, on watching creators, it doesn't affect my enjoyment of playing the game. Believe me, ik the cheater situation is super horrible in the super high skill brackets but with so many creators constantly complaining about it, I think they are just shooting themselves in the foot for being able to have the general audience enjoy watching what they make. I used to watch so much apex content but I'm down to watching 1 creator on a regular basis because that creator focuses on the positive attitude and having fun which is awesome to watch and honestly relatable to my normal apex experience. For me the biggest mistake respawn is making is trying to force a BR into being a fair competitive experience. BR is random by definition, you can't have complete fairness. imo they need to start focusing on things being fun stop using nerfs as your only balancing tool let things be op buff and nerf a little. I used to poor over the patch notes with excitement thinking maybe my legend would get a big buff and maybe this one guy would get a nerf. These days I force myself to read it just so I know the state of things with no joy involved all guns have been nerfed so far into the ground that guns that are in the weakest state they have ever been in are actually partially meta and usable. That SUCKS lets just buff some things and have some fun while we're at it bring back punch boosting and jumpad dashing and man launcher tap strafes random fun crap
I don’t think that their marketing is any responsible for bugs and servers, battle pass and state of game are different things and with different people responsible
I don't even think many people are angry because of the battle pass itself. Personally, i couldn't care less, just wont buy it anymore. Its moreso that they've been DEAD SILENT for entire Season despite breaking the game in numerous ways and completely disabling anti cheat and report button and thought it'd be a great idea to 'break the silence" with "hey we want money"? I refuse to believe they could be that out of touch, just no flipping way. People are freezing in the main screen after Split 2 update can't even play the game, we're dying to cheaters EVERY SINGLE LOBBY, ddoses, random crashes costing you RP + penalty and all they care about is...milking us twice a season for battle pass. I like the concept mentioned later on in the video about more authentication methods and potentially pay-wall to play Ranked but i'll be honest, thats just not the move for BR game with 60 players per lobby. No one is waiting 10min for lobby in this game. This may work in CS but definitely wont work in Apex especially 5 years into the game where people are used to 30sec-1min Q's.
My two favorite modern games are Apex and Rocket League. Both are dying to corporate greed. Same with just general life. A Caniac combo from Canes is 17 fucking dollars PRE-TAX. Groceries are 10x what they used to be. World is breaking.
you said it 2:55 its not about the battlepass - i couldnt care less about cosmetics. its just that they really dont seem to be solving the issues the game has since years (audio, server etc...) while earning BILLIONS and making a net profit of hundreds of millions of dollars - and now they ask for even more money. disgusting. btw - anybody else frequently crashing/disconnecting since last patch?^^
because of the new bp i cant lvl up the new universal heirloom as a free 2 play player saving up coins for my first bp now i got a bland katar that could look and be soooo much better, fuck you ea
Lots of amazing ideas but i dont belive in paying for better servers like a reward this game is f2p making you pay gor good servers feels like a p2p that isnt right i love playing competitively but if we have it that way i would have to pump my money in the game??
Make it so the cash only battlepass is required for diamond+. That would get rid of so many cheaters. Anti cheat systems only catch dumb cheaters. You need humans watching and reviewing. Humans cost the most money but is exactly what the community would love to see as an reinvestment
hi everyone
before you come at me with some pitchforks (if you dont agree with what i was saying ofc) i just want you to know that I truly love Apex and want it to succeed. my complaining comes from pure frustration of sitting here and watching them make these poor decisions. i just want Apex to feel fun again, for everyone
Well you are a part of those bad decisions when video i shown with new scammy heirloom and deathbox, which cost a lot of money. That means you support what they do :)
@@Neszy I really don’t enjoy spending money on this game if i’m being honest, but i’ve definitely bought things for content purposes. It’s gonna be hard for everyone to collectively stop doing that, because a large of the player base buys things regardless of their decisions.
@@f0rbi you and other hundreds of content creators, and that's a big problem, when people who says they care about pricing of a battle pass but they spend 10-100x more on skins what that say to EA? "Well of course if they are paying for this garbage why wouldn't they pay for 20 bucks for a battle pass". That's why for me listening to streamers and UA-camrs talking about problems makes my eyes roll, cause they are a really big part of the problem and they don't even see that. But that's just my opinion.
@@Neszy I see what you’re saying, but when you look at the bigger picture, they make hundreds of millions of dollars every year. Do you really think a majority of that profit is from content creators specifically, or the player base that really enjoys the cosmetics?
It’s tough. I get that content creators need to stop buying skins, but the player base as a whole does too. It’s not just us.
I'm so glad someone said it. It's not just the new battlepass that broke the camel's back cuz it's somewhat okay (still not buying it cuz the junk in there is trash), but the idea of dropping some sketchy price gouging scheme amidst all the other issues going on is appalling and telling of what their actual priorities are. I'll be fair and assume there are separate departments working on monetization and a team for security, and the monetization team dropped this at a bad time.
I feel as if we need very specific demands for Respawn/EA to meet before we as a community spend any more money on the game.
Things like:
Verification methods for players to mitigate cheaters i.e. the phone # verification, 2FA, ECT
Frequent ban waves
At least monthly communication from the public facing side of Respawn regarding the efforts of the above. i.e. How many cheaters are being banned? Are the current implementations effective or are more strategies being tested, ect.
Live IT assistance - no more AI, no more 'community help forums', give us dedicated folks who know the backend of the game and are able to actually look into problems that the players come across.
For me the quads were something fresh after a long break from Apex and I have to say that I enjoyed them. I enjoyed thinking of ways to combine the characters and their abilities. In quads I felt like if someone got a knockdown there was actually still room for outplay. Yes it's possible in duos and trios but here I felt like it was more possible. Anyway, I understand your frustration with the game and I feel the same way. The problem is that there are still people who buy the pointless battle pass and when it turns out to be a success they stay with this version.
Great video lads!
I have NEVER even gotten close to masters. I peaked at d4 in s11 and quit and came back in s18 and everytime i play im in lobbies full of masters. How is it that I can go to any game mode and constantly have to face players way better than me when im solo queueing and some of them are in 3stacks!!!! Yeah premade squads have an advantage. im ok with that. But why is everyone in my lobby masters plus?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!I hate that i like this game so much. They developed a new drug and they are trying to get as much out of their addicts as they can. It hurts so much. Like seriously. Its the weekend when everyone is on apex so why am I only seeing masters???? When most of the player base is on you expect a diverse skill range. If player count is up during prime time then why am i facing opponents that clearly outclass me EVERY GAME I PLAY BR or Mixtape?!?!
Sending this to apex discord.
How do you feel about Apex Legends atm?
The game is great and a lot better than other FPS on the market. Cheaters are gonna ruin any F2P game unles they do kernel ban. They have gave so much new content in the past 9 months and we get a new map next month. Hoping they update ranked scoring/rules more next season. What funny is every community are complaining about their game just as Apex community is. XDefiant just released and people are already complaining about cheaters, net code, match making and their Season 1 content being mid
oh gosh, atm feeling pretty crappy. BUT, here's the thing apex is BY FAR the best most fun game I've ever played. lets say for the sake of argument that I decide boycotting apex is the right way to tell them I'm frustrated. In that scenario I'm not going to another game I'm just not gonna play games at all and I'm not gonna be happy about it.
to me the battle pass stuff doesn't matter ok whatever I just won't have the battle pass going forward no real loss
people rag on cheaters and there are a few ultra rare exceptions but this game is free to play they will be there
Here's the thing that no one tells you about the cheaters tho... I almost never see one it's super rare and while ik I'm not very good at the game over all, I am well above average in skill level(and honestly I don't feel like I'm above average but sometimes we have to look at things from an outside perspective. Yesterday one of my randoms asked me if I was a hacker cause after he went down I 1v5d a team and then a third party). What that tells me that cheaters being as bad as they are are really only a major issue in the extreme top end of players.
idk how other people feel, but for me, the constant complaining about cheaters from content creators burns me out, on watching creators, it doesn't affect my enjoyment of playing the game. Believe me, ik the cheater situation is super horrible in the super high skill brackets but with so many creators constantly complaining about it, I think they are just shooting themselves in the foot for being able to have the general audience enjoy watching what they make.
I used to watch so much apex content but I'm down to watching 1 creator on a regular basis because that creator focuses on the positive attitude and having fun which is awesome to watch and honestly relatable to my normal apex experience.
For me the biggest mistake respawn is making is trying to force a BR into being a fair competitive experience. BR is random by definition, you can't have complete fairness. imo they need to start focusing on things being fun stop using nerfs as your only balancing tool
let things be op buff and nerf a little.
I used to poor over the patch notes with excitement thinking maybe my legend would get a big buff and maybe this one guy would get a nerf.
These days I force myself to read it just so I know the state of things with no joy involved
all guns have been nerfed so far into the ground that guns that are in the weakest state they have ever been in are actually partially meta and usable. That SUCKS lets just buff some things and have some fun
while we're at it bring back punch boosting and jumpad dashing and man launcher tap strafes
random fun crap
Bored tbh
uninstalled... twice!
I don’t think that their marketing is any responsible for bugs and servers, battle pass and state of game are different things and with different people responsible
Its literally one bp that theyre making you buy twice
I don't even think many people are angry because of the battle pass itself. Personally, i couldn't care less, just wont buy it anymore. Its moreso that they've been DEAD SILENT for entire Season despite breaking the game in numerous ways and completely disabling anti cheat and report button and thought it'd be a great idea to 'break the silence" with "hey we want money"? I refuse to believe they could be that out of touch, just no flipping way.
People are freezing in the main screen after Split 2 update can't even play the game, we're dying to cheaters EVERY SINGLE LOBBY, ddoses, random crashes costing you RP + penalty and all they care about is...milking us twice a season for battle pass.
I like the concept mentioned later on in the video about more authentication methods and potentially pay-wall to play Ranked but i'll be honest, thats just not the move for BR game with 60 players per lobby. No one is waiting 10min for lobby in this game. This may work in CS but definitely wont work in Apex especially 5 years into the game where people are used to 30sec-1min Q's.
My two favorite modern games are Apex and Rocket League. Both are dying to corporate greed. Same with just general life. A Caniac combo from Canes is 17 fucking dollars PRE-TAX. Groceries are 10x what they used to be. World is breaking.
you said it 2:55 its not about the battlepass - i couldnt care less about cosmetics.
its just that they really dont seem to be solving the issues the game has since years (audio, server etc...) while earning BILLIONS and making a net profit of hundreds of millions of dollars - and now they ask for even more money. disgusting. btw - anybody else frequently crashing/disconnecting since last patch?^^
Idk this season my lobbies are fine rn, S17-19 was terrible.
because of the new bp i cant lvl up the new universal heirloom as a free 2 play player saving up coins for my first bp now i got a bland katar that could look and be soooo much better, fuck you ea
Battle pass in general doesn't have good skins anymore
I just want arenas back
Lots of amazing ideas but i dont belive in paying for better servers like a reward this game is f2p making you pay gor good servers feels like a p2p that isnt right i love playing competitively but if we have it that way i would have to pump my money in the game??
u should play apex on switch
Make it so the cash only battlepass is required for diamond+. That would get rid of so many cheaters.
Anti cheat systems only catch dumb cheaters. You need humans watching and reviewing. Humans cost the most money but is exactly what the community would love to see as an reinvestment
Actually, make it so the cash only battle pass doesn't exist
Thats funny youd think that would work. You realize how much money cheaters spend on cheats?
Skins are not content.
Like,like,like,like,like,like,like
Holy shit read a book dude
Game is shit and the biggest issue is matchmaking
No need for that insult damn, did your wife cheat on you or something 💀
lol u reap what you sole. buying skins for 60 bucks lol
AIM assist ruines every game 😂
The fact that some people need software to do aiminig for them 😅
looks like you and aoiyuki9040 need aim assist for your keyboards with that spelling man
@@jello4055u act like he misspelled his whole sentence 💀
@@jello4055 I game on my keyboard I typed it on my phone my bad my $1000 dollar phone has auto corrections you broke boy 🖕🏾