Omega going "I CALL DIBS" was hilarious, and I liked Shadow struggling with the idea of being related to the Death Leach. Also seeing Egg Breaker was cool. You know what they say, the more the merrier!
@@Jason-..- It's a short hand for calling claims on something before anyone else can. For example if you and two friends walk into a room and there's one cupcake. If you call 'dibs' before they do, it's effectively yours.
I genuinely love both fan-made and official interpretations of how Rouge interacts with all the characters. I love how she's essentially the glue keeping Sonic and Shadow together, and I love the interpretation of her and Sonic just being the two trolls who bond over annoying the hell out of their friends. Again, I've always viewed Shadow and Rouge as being true best friends, and I love seeing the extroverted Rouge break Shadow out of his introverted shell.
@@galten7361nah I don't agree with that really, Rouge has shown genuine concern for Shadow several times over the years. They're definitely friends, but Rogue knows well enough that Shadow doesn't display friendship in the same ways other people do, and she just rolls with that
Yes, it has been established specifically in Shadow The Hedgehog that the Death Leeches are larvae. Black Doom explicitly says they are when you run into them in SKY TROOPS. "Those are our Larvae which mature into fine soldiers. Protect them." - Black Doom
8:50 To be fair, if I saw a rocket shoot out of one of those things on my first visit to Earth without prior knowledge on what a pyramid actually was, I'd assume all Pyramids had rockets in them too 😔
I like to imagine Shadow as a freelance agent who takes up jobs that he feels are worth his time. Not an official agent, but will work with G.U.N. or any organization that align with his interests.
I actually would have preferred that he was an official G.U.N agent. It would have shown that he made peace with that part of his past, but I don't mind him being a freelance agent either. Also, I just love the later interpretation of Shadow in the Archie comics, which just so happens to work for G.U.N and even has good reasons for it.
@@JapanFreak2595 Being fully committed to G.U.N. does not suit Shadow in my view, seeing as it was a instance of "I was just following orders" that got Maria shot in the first place. Shadow has more freedom to pick and choose his assignments based on what he and by extension Maria would have wanted
Shadow knowing about the Black Arms preemptively does kind of explain why he's such a prodigious fighter even on the arc. This Shadow probably knows that he's supposed to be the one to handle the Black Arms once they come back, so Gerald probably went out of his way to give him combat training
besides, Black Doom wanted Shadow to get the Emeralds for him in these 50 years. It was a part of the deal with Black Arms so Shadow being able to fight is the part that would be needed to collect them.
@@ManiacX1999 oh he definitely was. He was intended to be capable of fighting and using everything he needs (human and alien tech and Doom's chaos powers). It's just that Gerald and Black Doom had different ideas of how it should be used.
@maskofthedragon Shadow hasn't changed at all post-06 within the games as far as SoJ rather than localizations and alt-continuities and anything else by Westerners (see IDW) goes.
Game apologist I hope you read this but, god I wish this style returns again at some point. Kevin Molina Ortiz worked on rottmnt and directed this short which explains why the animation is so kinetic and raw. I also wish these were longer 😭
9:01 the way i see it, this is very in character for rouge. she doesn’t want to go to sonic’s birthday party without a date; that’s just unfashionable. and of course she playfully manipulates shadow into being her date by helping him with something in return. she’s just once again wrapping someone around her finger to get what she wants, which is her entire character. of course with shadow, though, the favor she asks of him comes with no mal intent as it would with her adversaries; she just doesn’t want to go alone to sonic’s birthday party.
Honestly I also think she just likes the guy. It's a pretty lopsided trade, of breaking into a secret base and stealing a spaceship in exchange for just going to a party. She wants to help him, and even him just going to Sonic's party and socializing would do him good as well. It helps Shadow a lot more than it does Rouge, and her "twisting his arm" like this just for him to do something that helps himself is pretty cute.
@@venade9997 “date” doesn’t necessarily mean romantic. the term “date” can be used to just describe someone you bring to tag along with you at a function. at least in america, it’s customary for people to bring friends as dates to parties and events if they don’t have a significant other to bring.
I think in part she doesn't want to go alone because feel out of place, her relationship with Sonic and co has been mostly antagonistic/neutral to this point of time.
Rouge and Shadow's dynamic is really cute because you can tell Rouge drives him up the wall, she knows he hates it and it pleases her, but if anyone tried to do any harm to her, he'd kill them. I don't think he doesn't show up to Sonic's party with the intention of breaking his promise to Rouge.
@@0ikess It's literally canon that Rouge has a crush on Knuckles. Been that way since her first appearance. She has gone out of her way to tease and flirt with and has even tricked him into spending time with her in some games. Knuckles definitely feels an attraction as well, but puts duty over feelings. The most affection that Rouge has ever shown towards Shadow is calling him 'handsome', which is what she calls practically every guy.
Shadow potentially being a “wonder drug” might really add up as to why he was created as a “cure for all diseases”. We always hear a lot about this tidbit but we never actually see how this exactly works or how his existence helps deal Maria’s disease besides not making her feel alone. If he was created to be this invincible lifeform, it makes sense Gerald would use him essentially as a lab rat for testing out different attempts for a cure without the risk of killing someone. This could also rectify Shadow’s actions back in IDW where he willingly jumps into a crowd of metal zombies, as he’d have the idea that since he can’t fall ill to anything (and to a degree artificially made), he wouldn’t be infected in any way. I remember HSquidReviews making a similar argument for that situation.
See, while I don't agree with a lot of Shadow in IDW, I thought the exact same thing. He's the ultimate lifeform, he doesn't get sick, he was made to cure people, so yeah, if I were him, I'd probably think I was immune too and let my guard down a bit due to overconfidence
Omega's "I call dibs" was perfect it had me rolling. And Rouge teasing nature was sorely missed and I do like how Rouge and Sonic are basically siblings xD. Sonic Team and the animation studio are COOKING
It’s nice to see the dynamic between Shadow and Maria further developed. And to see Team Dark fighting together again. So far, the Dark Beginnings Prologue has been awesome. Interested in seeing how part 3 will play out. I also like how the Egg Pawns are dawned in their samurai attire from Aquarium Park. A nod to how Sonic Generations takes place right after Sonic Colors.
Never heard of the "Sonic and Rouge are basically siblings" fan thing, but I'm okay with it. I've always felt a similar vibe between Knuckles and Amy 🤷♀
@yaloolah42 Rouge is a seductive thief like Fujiko Mine and so she easily find allies and make friends. Also like Sonic is a freespirit who lives for herself and follows her values/ideals.
It does feel like voice actors can really show off their skills more in shows and animations rather than some games. Roger does work so well as Omega! Reconnecting Team Dark, even if it’s not like in Sonic Heroes or Archie. They still work so well. It still hits me Shadow knew his origins before losing his memories. And these don’t just establish Shadow’s character, but gives Maria more depth as well, being more than just his motivation.
Team Dark having their 'siblings reluctantly wotking together' vibe is something I live for. They are such a dysfunctional found family for each other.
@michaelcarlton1484 That's just fanon. Shadow knows who his family is (Gerald and Maria) and they're dead. Not replaceable. Team Dark are his comrades not family.
unrelated but i love how they’re calling the larvae a heartless creature right in front of its face and its kind of just watching like “bruh. I’m right here.”
The kid version of the GUN Commander hates Shadow because he witnessed Black Doom and Gerald cooperating to create Shadow from a window, so he's terrified of Shadow. It doesn't help that Shadow glared at the kid the moment he came to life.
Honestly, whenever I think of the "Team Dark aren't friends" statement, I always thought of it saying that due to things like Shadow only ever having referred to them as "allies" as far back as Sonic Battle, and the fact Shadow is usually doing his own thing unless he's sent out with Rouge and Omega, they aren't necessarily "friends" like Sonic is with his group. Rouge seems to be the one who gets Shadow to be social for the most part, like when she requests Shadow promise to show up at Sonic's birthday. It's more like they said, "They have a good working relationship, but otherwise don't expect them to hang out together regularly.". Also, I've seen a few people lean more on Abe's full name possibly being "Abraham _Walters",_ combining his first name with the name of his incarnation in the Sonic movie-verse. But it is pretty neat GUN guy can finally get an official name in animated form...
I like what 06 did and show that team dark were really the only people shadow truly trusts and that they'll always have his back no matter what in return
@@CometX-ingmilitary normally calls each other by last names, AFAIK he's just some high ranking dude who *could* have changed his name because Robotniks, reputation
The art style of these animations is simply exquisite, like without hyperbole these are some of the best looking pieces I have ever seen... and that is BEFORE the fight scenes! The voice work is also phenomenal too, esp. Maria. It really does feel great to be excited for something from this franchise again, here's hoping we get more of this stuff in the future!
You can tell Sonic Team regretting the Rouge's voice in Sonic Dream Team because **voice actress didn't change, just the voice direction/accent...** ...Now she can quick-switch between "Suggestive" & "Cheerful Cherry" on a whim of making me laugh.
I just wish the pitch was consistent. She used to have a deep voice and nows she's all shrill. (Not to mention the different accent changes, like going valley girl or country depending on the game)
@@michaelcarlton1484 I think rouge easily swapping accents is a good character trait. It's a reminder that no matter how much you may like her, she's still a spy, she's still deceptive, she has her own agenda, and she might just be using you. Sure, with shadow, the "using" is in his face and cheerful so he knows she's being open with him, but for anyone else, she's charming and dangerous. From the game canon, we still know basically nothing about Rouge. Every character trait she has (except her distaste for Amy) was established in SA2. We know she's a GUN agent, a gem thief, and she's willing to commit and partake in some pretty heinous crimes to complete her missions. She's beautiful, and she knows it, and she uses it whenever necessary. And _something_ made her bond with and keep tabs on Shadow and Omega. She also acts as a GUN liason with Sonic and team. But that's all we know about her from game canon, and expanded lore is very iffy.
This goes with the last profile description of the team Dark, Omega and Rouge,not question Shadow, only join the chaos and ask what he needs. Though it was controversial because their profiles were misinterpreted when refer to each other, withd prase "he wouldn't call no one friend but trust", simply exposed a trait the 3 members of the team share, the 3 suck in perceiving and identified relationships in special friendship.
@@galten7361 yes. , they whole deal is this their objective align but not overlap. Shadow act on duty, Omega in fame(probe himself) and Rouge for 'money' Between this is a constant interchange of favors .
One thing I loved about this short was the animation of the shogun Egg Pawns. They actually look like a credible threat, the way they swing their weapons like legit samurai warriors shows how they are in fact the main military force of the Eggman Empire. We're used to perceiving these things as a bunch of tinker toys that get knocked down like dominos in every game, but that's only because we're playing as people with super powers, to a regular person in Sonic's world these silly looking pawns would be like Terminators.
Hey, he went to Amy's birthday party and got her the best gift, so it's not impossible that he'd go. Although, I hope Rouge can find out what day he was created so we can have a Shadow birthday party.
@CapnJigglypuff Shadow does not care about mankind. He is not Batman and never was outside of stuff like Archie or fanon. He always protected the world on Maria's opinions.
Episode 1 Shadow gets angsty about his purpose in life Maria hug Fight scene Episode 2 Shadow gets angsty about his purpose in life Maria hug Fight scene I'm sensing a pattern here.
I always appreciated how, in Sonic Heroes, Rouge is the leader of Team Dark. She's the one who created it, the one who impulses their movement. Hope they keep that sentiment.
I think Shadow forgot about the fact he was related to the larvae when he lost his memories, when he got his memory back he remembered that interaction with Maria
we had his name, now we need to know when GUN Commander Abraham got his love for the endless Pasta Bucket... maybe that's how he copes & yeah i love that Rouge & Sonic are the 2 Extrovers holding together an entire group of Introverts
I'm convinced that if the Sonic fanbase gets a full 23 minutes of this quality from an episode, they might start collectively foaming from the mouth from hype. I'll include myself in that.
I just loved that I got to see Omega do things. He's one of my favorite Sonic characters cause I love how simple and straightforward he is. Also, thank god they made him look fast. Since 06, he's always felt so clunky. I know he's big, but E-123 can MOVE with those boosters.
Honestly, as just a passive observer that has showed up in the past couple months, I've paid more attention to your patreon readings than I ever have to anyone else's. Your wild fans with their crazy names, building their own little hilarious stories have legitimately made them an enjoyable experience. From everyone trying to get you to read out the opening to Sonic Underground, to the Helium saga, it's always a ride.
I watched Channel pups video and his reaction to team dale being back was HILARIOUS 🤣. Glad to see you old Shadow fans finally eating for once. I’m new to the fandom so I haven’t suffered for a decade.
I still haven't seen this video yet, but I always love seeing Shadow have friends because he deserves them and I'm super-excited to see what you think of the masterpiece that was Dark Beginnings Episode 3.
none of the other reactions or breakdowns i've watched noted how shadow knowing he's an alien hybrid back then was new information, it stood out pretty strongly to me so i was starting to think i must be misremembering or going crazy here lol.
There are a handful that mention it but no one goes as much into detail or that it makes sense since after SA2 until the end of shadow 05 shadow has amnesia and cant remember shit about his past
actually like team dark being somewhat mercenaries as it basically makes shadow the king of fighters 'k with how he,maxima(a sonic & kof crossover would go hard just seeing team dark with them like omega competing with him at shooting enemies.:3) and kula don't work for heidern but will team up from him/whip's request.
Doesn't Black Doom refer to those Death Leeches as his children when he tells them to eat Sonic and his friends whilst they're paralyzed? It makes sense to me if they're larvae, since Black Doom wants his "children" to grow up big and strong.
I really do appreciate Omega having absurd lines. First meat bags from Chronicles and Team Racing and now I call dibs and of course-"OOH CHUNKY NOT UNLIKE MYSELF"? What the frick are his writers thinking?!
Here's a hint as to why Abe disliked Shadow so much at the start of this animation: Look at 0:44 in the Sonic X Shadow Generations - Official Gerald Robotnik’s Journal Infomercial Video here on UA-cam. There's a quick flash of an image of Abe sitting with Maria reading books together. He wasn't lying in Shadow the Hedgehog when he talked about how she was family to him on the ARK. But to him, Maria started spending lots more time with the emotionally vulnerable Hedgehog she probably feels responsible for since he was born to save her and be beats himself up over not saving her sooner. He was a kid who is jealous. He had spied on Dr Robotnik and Black Doom, found out about Shadow being part Alien, and lashed out at the "THING" that took his friend away from him. It's entirely reasonable. We had also learned in the Shadow the Hedgehog Game that he blames Shadow for his parents' and Maria's deaths on the ARK, until he finds out from the last Recording of Gerald Robotnik that GUN was the culprit, and he and the President lament the way they treated him. Finally extending an Olive (Garden) Branch to Shadow by apologizing and asking if he would like to come over, since he recently became a Grandfather. That's what I love about Flynn's writing in Sonic. There's little hints and bits and pieces taken from everywhere, and you can surely go find even more info about them, if yo look hard enough.
A Rouge chantageando e tentando fazer o Shadow se socializar, me lembrou muito aquelas cenas ondem a Mulher Maravilha tentava fazer o mesmo com Batman 😂 Ou aqueles memes do extrovertido que adota o introvertido
I love seeing content like this, it is so good, and to have it be official canon, and everything I’ve grown up with continue on is just great. I sadly miss a lot of the Easter eggs so I’m really glad there’s someone to point all of these things out.
really loved team dark's interactions in eggman's sa2 pyramid base especially omega's "i call dibs"(alongside heroes ian is peak omega/good balance for his voice.) & rouge asking shadow to come to sonic's birthday being rather cute(love the moments those 2 have and her actually liking the blue blur enough to celebrate.:3). interesting we finally hear the g.u.n commander's name(considering it's implied after he saw gerald with black doom creating shadow could see him being uncomfortable at maria taking his attention to shadow.)/shadow's realization of him having alien dna in him(still find it stupid but do think they handled it well with maria comforting him about it with everything he goes through.). thought the egg breaker was going to be piloted by eggman at first(hope we see a shot of him before he sends out the time eater.)
6:42 I want to see Rouge in a Batwoman suit. Black/red or silver/pink, both would look good & be fitting on her AND she can have a Catwoman-like dynamic opposite "Shadowman"
This channel continues to be super cool to me, just real dang jazzed its still here. Watching this video and kinda chuckling to myself at how dramatic the scenes in the background are, I had this weird epiphany where I sorta existed all at once, if that makes sense. Watching Shadow punch the ground and Maria hug him took me right back to the silly forums I used to browse and the equally silly fanfictions we all used to write about these characters. I never stopped writing, found a true love and passion for it, and its cool that it grew from playing Sonic games as an impressionable child lol. I like to think that Ian Flynn(spelling? I've never had the human decency to look up his name lol oof) potentially wrote some silly fanfics on a sonic forum somewhere along the line and now he writes sonic fanfics for realsies. That's tight. Thanks for the channel and all the content bro, I don't keep up with Sonic going-ons the way I used to, so I would have never had these thoughts had I not been subbed. Its good to be here
I love all your "theories" and breakdowns of sonic topics because I have the same thoughts. I also love how you present these videos, It's crazy that your page is the only page I pay attention to when on the topic about the sonic-verse. I have never been interested in Shadows game, so the fact that you're going to stream it, I'm invested. I know I'll have a good time.
9:10 In my opinion this is to get Shadow to socialize but my importantly this might be because she knows something’s really bothering Shadow, so she probably wants him to go to the party so Sonic can annoy him enough to get Shadow’s mind off of it, at least temporary. Since let’s be honest, if the Time Eater incident didn’t happen and Shadow showed up normally (probably still late lol), Sonic would have probably tried to race him at least once for fun. I mean seriously, Shadow is the only being who can keep up with Sonic going full speed (Blaze and Metal I feel get close, but not quite on Sonic’s level), so Sonic would probably try to see if he can keep his title of “fastest thing alive” against Shadow
Honestly and this is just me, whenever I read Omega’s lines in the comics, sometimes my brain short circuits and I hear Omega’s voice as something like a child’s, specifically Alphonse Elric, and it fits so well I can’t get it out of my head. 😂
Just feed me a full 12 episode, 30 minute series featuring Team Dark using this animation team, SEGA, and I will stop begging for a Chao Garden. It's that good.
If we go to the new profiles and placement on time, Rouge wants to go to the party but doesn't want to go alone. She is a social person but it's pretty distrustfull of others, Shadow and Omega are the only 2 she fully trust, and barely has interacted with the rest casually, like in Sonic battle if you analyze, each time she is casual end in a argument or and adward situation, she doesn't know how interact with other. Annoy Shadow it's simply a funny bonus. Besides it's likely that outside her team, Sonic, Knuckles and Tails are the ones she feels, more or less ,comfortable to be around.
As much as i like robotic speaking robot Omega, him having a personality and say "I C A L L D I B S" hits all the right spots He always has been one to act first and go for it after all
They really kept Abe's hair the same when he was a kid? He should've had brown hair or something. Idk, that bugs me lol I LOVED Omega's "I CALL DIBS!" XD And seeing more Shadow and Maria is always wonderful!
I cant believe that Roger Craig Smith would be the most debated voice of Sonic and unquestionably one of the best voices for Omega. What a time to be alive.
It bothers me a bit that Rouge called out Sonic's birthday, because that basically debunk the theory that Shadow's from the future. I liked that theory.
When you said rouge's pose could be a batman reference I instantly thought that it could have instead been a reference to darkstalkers because of Morgan. so I looked through the openings of the games and found a similar pose in the third one not the exact pose but similar in the 3rd game done by surprisingly jeddah. Still could be a batman reference but i thought i would share my findings
It’s fun to see the way Team Dark is, Omega being trigger happy when it comes to blowing up Egg-bots, Shadow is a lone wolf but actually enjoys having some company even if he doesn’t show it, and Rouge being the one that has to keep the three together. (And I will say I enjoy the thought that Sonic and Rouge have a sibling vibe of being the same age while Sonic and Tails has a more older sibling vibe)
@SuperVideowatcher01 Shadow's bonds are Maria and Gerald as family, Rouge with Omega as his comrades, Sonic as his rival he tries to outdo but admits he's capable, everyone else in the living cast ranging from enemies to allies when needed to NPCS.
"you guys get mad at the weirdest things." On one hand, we're sonic fans On the other hand, sonic has been through enough "classic being forced" shenanigans that people just dont want to even think about it. On the third hand, sonic has also just horribly inconsistent with story, and while i dont think that would take much away, it is a bit of a change that just feels like it would be there for "shock value"
Omega going "I CALL DIBS" was hilarious, and I liked Shadow struggling with the idea of being related to the Death Leach.
Also seeing Egg Breaker was cool. You know what they say, the more the merrier!
Dude I busted out laughing cause of how left field it was!
What does "i call dibs" mean?
English is not my mother language
@@Jason-..- Basically he is saying he wants to fight the robot first. "Calling Dibs" is basically claiming it as yours to try/get first.
@@Jason-..- It's a short hand for calling claims on something before anyone else can.
For example if you and two friends walk into a room and there's one cupcake. If you call 'dibs' before they do, it's effectively yours.
@@ChaosIsaacZero Thanks both of you for the explanation!😁
“These are our larvae, which mature into fine soldiers. Protect them.”
-Doom’s Eye, Glyphic Canyon
“Looks like those little things are aliens, too. Guess that means they’re fair game.”
-Knuckles, War Criminal
@@sladeclegane9709 That is why its called “War”
"AYYYY LOOKS LIKE IT'S LUNCHTIME BOIS!!!!" ~ Larvae
@@EnzoZambrotti LMAO
I genuinely love both fan-made and official interpretations of how Rouge interacts with all the characters. I love how she's essentially the glue keeping Sonic and Shadow together, and I love the interpretation of her and Sonic just being the two trolls who bond over annoying the hell out of their friends. Again, I've always viewed Shadow and Rouge as being true best friends, and I love seeing the extroverted Rouge break Shadow out of his introverted shell.
Rouge is just trying to get her brother to socialize. XD
Now I want to see rouge and sonic troll their friends together
@blackfox4138 Rouge is Sonic's friend. Rouge is Shadow's comrade in arms rather than his friend.
@@michaelcarlton1484 Rouge and Shadow don't have a sibling dynamic. They're a band of warriors with Omega.
@@galten7361nah I don't agree with that really, Rouge has shown genuine concern for Shadow several times over the years. They're definitely friends, but Rogue knows well enough that Shadow doesn't display friendship in the same ways other people do, and she just rolls with that
Shadow once again has something that I don’t.
W comment lmfaoo
c'mon dude... ya GOTTA grab one of those doom powers
wings
do you have guns? cause he doesnt have those anymore. think of it as a net positive
The yellow chaos emerald
Yes, it has been established specifically in Shadow The Hedgehog that the Death Leeches are larvae. Black Doom explicitly says they are when you run into them in SKY TROOPS.
"Those are our Larvae which mature into fine soldiers. Protect them." - Black Doom
*Shadow proceeds to gun the Larvae down*
Doom's Eye: What are you doing, you traitor?!
@@smashmaster521 "Shadow! Stop at once!"
8:50 To be fair, if I saw a rocket shoot out of one of those things on my first visit to Earth without prior knowledge on what a pyramid actually was, I'd assume all Pyramids had rockets in them too 😔
I like to imagine Shadow as a freelance agent who takes up jobs that he feels are worth his time. Not an official agent, but will work with G.U.N. or any organization that align with his interests.
That makes sense. Izukia even said that himself lol
I actually would have preferred that he was an official G.U.N agent. It would have shown that he made peace with that part of his past, but I don't mind him being a freelance agent either. Also, I just love the later interpretation of Shadow in the Archie comics, which just so happens to work for G.U.N and even has good reasons for it.
@@firelightning5018 I prefer him as a G.U.N agent as well. The freelance thing is meeting Sega/Sonic Team/Izuka in the middle.
Soo… Dante from Devil May Cry?
@@JapanFreak2595 Being fully committed to G.U.N. does not suit Shadow in my view, seeing as it was a instance of "I was just following orders" that got Maria shot in the first place. Shadow has more freedom to pick and choose his assignments based on what he and by extension Maria would have wanted
Shadow knowing about the Black Arms preemptively does kind of explain why he's such a prodigious fighter even on the arc. This Shadow probably knows that he's supposed to be the one to handle the Black Arms once they come back, so Gerald probably went out of his way to give him combat training
besides, Black Doom wanted Shadow to get the Emeralds for him in these 50 years. It was a part of the deal with Black Arms so Shadow being able to fight is the part that would be needed to collect them.
Am I the only one who believes Shadow was trained in human technology? He knows how guns and cars work, he HAD to be taught that at some point
@@ManiacX1999well, yeah, in expert mode, Shadow's training to join G.U.N
@@ManiacX1999 oh he definitely was. He was intended to be capable of fighting and using everything he needs (human and alien tech and Doom's chaos powers). It's just that Gerald and Black Doom had different ideas of how it should be used.
Shadow is reverting back to his pre-smelly hobo days!
Crazy Steve!?
But he smells like lavender
@maskofthedragon Shadow hasn't changed at all post-06 within the games as far as SoJ rather than localizations and alt-continuities and anything else by Westerners (see IDW) goes.
Game apologist I hope you read this but, god I wish this style returns again at some point. Kevin Molina Ortiz worked on rottmnt and directed this short which explains why the animation is so kinetic and raw. I also wish these were longer 😭
The writers of these shorts should write main games their so good
@@SonicTheHedgehogX15 right?
@@SonicTheHedgehogX15He is…its Ian Flynn.
That explains a LOT
@@SonicTheHedgehogX15flynn?
9:01 the way i see it, this is very in character for rouge. she doesn’t want to go to sonic’s birthday party without a date; that’s just unfashionable. and of course she playfully manipulates shadow into being her date by helping him with something in return. she’s just once again wrapping someone around her finger to get what she wants, which is her entire character. of course with shadow, though, the favor she asks of him comes with no mal intent as it would with her adversaries; she just doesn’t want to go alone to sonic’s birthday party.
date is insane
Honestly I also think she just likes the guy. It's a pretty lopsided trade, of breaking into a secret base and stealing a spaceship in exchange for just going to a party. She wants to help him, and even him just going to Sonic's party and socializing would do him good as well. It helps Shadow a lot more than it does Rouge, and her "twisting his arm" like this just for him to do something that helps himself is pretty cute.
@@venade9997 “date” doesn’t necessarily mean romantic. the term “date” can be used to just describe someone you bring to tag along with you at a function. at least in america, it’s customary for people to bring friends as dates to parties and events if they don’t have a significant other to bring.
I think in part she doesn't want to go alone because feel out of place, her relationship with Sonic and co has been mostly antagonistic/neutral to this point of time.
@@Flight_of_Icarus Preach!!! 100 % agree
Rouge and Shadow's dynamic is really cute because you can tell Rouge drives him up the wall, she knows he hates it and it pleases her, but if anyone tried to do any harm to her, he'd kill them. I don't think he doesn't show up to Sonic's party with the intention of breaking his promise to Rouge.
Team Dark is peak 'found family'. Siblings that work together but hate it at the same time.
@@michaelcarlton1484 apparently people can't stand the thought of Rouge liking Shadow not as a sibling lol
@@이젠조금씩지쳐가네 i mean that's mostly because of knuckle's and rouge's interactions i am pretty sure
@@0ikess It's literally canon that Rouge has a crush on Knuckles. Been that way since her first appearance. She has gone out of her way to tease and flirt with and has even tricked him into spending time with her in some games. Knuckles definitely feels an attraction as well, but puts duty over feelings.
The most affection that Rouge has ever shown towards Shadow is calling him 'handsome', which is what she calls practically every guy.
@@michaelcarlton1484 yeah that's what i meant you should say that to the person i responded to
Shadow potentially being a “wonder drug” might really add up as to why he was created as a “cure for all diseases”. We always hear a lot about this tidbit but we never actually see how this exactly works or how his existence helps deal Maria’s disease besides not making her feel alone. If he was created to be this invincible lifeform, it makes sense Gerald would use him essentially as a lab rat for testing out different attempts for a cure without the risk of killing someone.
This could also rectify Shadow’s actions back in IDW where he willingly jumps into a crowd of metal zombies, as he’d have the idea that since he can’t fall ill to anything (and to a degree artificially made), he wouldn’t be infected in any way. I remember HSquidReviews making a similar argument for that situation.
See, while I don't agree with a lot of Shadow in IDW, I thought the exact same thing. He's the ultimate lifeform, he doesn't get sick, he was made to cure people, so yeah, if I were him, I'd probably think I was immune too and let my guard down a bit due to overconfidence
Omega's "I call dibs" was perfect it had me rolling. And Rouge teasing nature was sorely missed and I do like how Rouge and Sonic are basically siblings xD.
Sonic Team and the animation studio are COOKING
That youtube short of Omega yelling "Oh my god you hit the towers" is gonna live on in my head forever
Omega just obliterating egg pawns in the background was my favorite bit.
When Omega said 'I CALL DIBS,' I thought to myself, yeah, Ian definitely wrote this script.
It’s nice to see the dynamic between Shadow and Maria further developed. And to see Team Dark fighting together again. So far, the Dark Beginnings Prologue has been awesome. Interested in seeing how part 3 will play out.
I also like how the Egg Pawns are dawned in their samurai attire from Aquarium Park. A nod to how Sonic Generations takes place right after Sonic Colors.
Never heard of the "Sonic and Rouge are basically siblings" fan thing, but I'm okay with it. I've always felt a similar vibe between Knuckles and Amy 🤷♀
I’ve seen fan stuff where both Sonic and Rouge like to troll with people together which I feel like it checks out with the siblings thing lmao
Dude knuckles and tails are basically big bro and little bro
@yaloolah42 Rouge is a seductive thief like Fujiko Mine and so she easily find allies and make friends. Also like Sonic is a freespirit who lives for herself and follows her values/ideals.
God it feels good seeing Shadow return to his true glory before the release and consequences of Sonic 06 ( to be fair he was amazing in that game )
@Byrdstar6423-un3me Shadow in the actual games hasn't changed in any major way. Boom doesn't count.
It does feel like voice actors can really show off their skills more in shows and animations rather than some games. Roger does work so well as Omega!
Reconnecting Team Dark, even if it’s not like in Sonic Heroes or Archie. They still work so well. It still hits me Shadow knew his origins before losing his memories. And these don’t just establish Shadow’s character, but gives Maria more depth as well, being more than just his motivation.
Nice to see Shadow has reverted back to his SA2, Heroes and 06 personality compared to his Edgy The Hedgy personality
@tombruncker7013 You realize Ian Flynn wrote IDW's Shadow? Also game Shadow has overall not changed post-06.
Team Dark having their 'siblings reluctantly wotking together' vibe is something I live for. They are such a dysfunctional found family for each other.
@michaelcarlton1484 That's just fanon. Shadow knows who his family is (Gerald and Maria) and they're dead. Not replaceable. Team Dark are his comrades not family.
unrelated but i love how they’re calling the larvae a heartless creature right in front of its face and its kind of just watching like “bruh. I’m right here.”
The kid version of the GUN Commander hates Shadow because he witnessed Black Doom and Gerald cooperating to create Shadow from a window, so he's terrified of Shadow. It doesn't help that Shadow glared at the kid the moment he came to life.
Honestly, whenever I think of the "Team Dark aren't friends" statement, I always thought of it saying that due to things like Shadow only ever having referred to them as "allies" as far back as Sonic Battle, and the fact Shadow is usually doing his own thing unless he's sent out with Rouge and Omega, they aren't necessarily "friends" like Sonic is with his group. Rouge seems to be the one who gets Shadow to be social for the most part, like when she requests Shadow promise to show up at Sonic's birthday. It's more like they said, "They have a good working relationship, but otherwise don't expect them to hang out together regularly.".
Also, I've seen a few people lean more on Abe's full name possibly being "Abraham _Walters",_ combining his first name with the name of his incarnation in the Sonic movie-verse. But it is pretty neat GUN guy can finally get an official name in animated form...
I like what 06 did and show that team dark were really the only people shadow truly trusts and that they'll always have his back no matter what in return
I don't know where people are getting the name Abraham Walters from since he was never called Abraham in the movie. His name was just Walters.
@@CometX-ing try reading again? walters is not a common first name.
@@whentheyDmilitary normally calls each other by last names, nobody called him "General Walters" AFAIK he's just some high ranking dude
@@CometX-ingmilitary normally calls each other by last names, AFAIK he's just some high ranking dude who *could* have changed his name because Robotniks, reputation
The art style of these animations is simply exquisite, like without hyperbole these are some of the best looking pieces I have ever seen... and that is BEFORE the fight scenes! The voice work is also phenomenal too, esp. Maria. It really does feel great to be excited for something from this franchise again, here's hoping we get more of this stuff in the future!
Omega was a gem in this.
Shadow fans are eating GOOD this year
Fun fact:the voice for omega in dark beginnings is Roger Craig smith,the voice of current sonic
You can tell Sonic Team regretting the Rouge's voice in Sonic Dream Team because **voice actress didn't change, just the voice direction/accent...**
...Now she can quick-switch between "Suggestive" & "Cheerful Cherry" on a whim of making me laugh.
I just wish the pitch was consistent. She used to have a deep voice and nows she's all shrill.
(Not to mention the different accent changes, like going valley girl or country depending on the game)
@@michaelcarlton1484 I think rouge easily swapping accents is a good character trait. It's a reminder that no matter how much you may like her, she's still a spy, she's still deceptive, she has her own agenda, and she might just be using you. Sure, with shadow, the "using" is in his face and cheerful so he knows she's being open with him, but for anyone else, she's charming and dangerous.
From the game canon, we still know basically nothing about Rouge. Every character trait she has (except her distaste for Amy) was established in SA2. We know she's a GUN agent, a gem thief, and she's willing to commit and partake in some pretty heinous crimes to complete her missions. She's beautiful, and she knows it, and she uses it whenever necessary. And _something_ made her bond with and keep tabs on Shadow and Omega. She also acts as a GUN liason with Sonic and team. But that's all we know about her from game canon, and expanded lore is very iffy.
This goes with the last profile description of the team Dark, Omega and Rouge,not question Shadow, only join the chaos and ask what he needs.
Though it was controversial because their profiles were misinterpreted when refer to each other, withd prase "he wouldn't call no one friend but trust", simply exposed a trait the 3 members of the team share, the 3 suck in perceiving and identified relationships in special friendship.
@santiagoarrieta2175 They're a band of warriors.
@@galten7361 yes.
, they whole deal is this their objective align but not overlap.
Shadow act on duty, Omega in fame(probe himself) and Rouge for 'money'
Between this is a constant interchange of favors .
I actually liked how you did for the classic Shadow video making a classic Shadow wouldn't be bad
One thing I loved about this short was the animation of the shogun Egg Pawns. They actually look like a credible threat, the way they swing their weapons like legit samurai warriors shows how they are in fact the main military force of the Eggman Empire. We're used to perceiving these things as a bunch of tinker toys that get knocked down like dominos in every game, but that's only because we're playing as people with super powers, to a regular person in Sonic's world these silly looking pawns would be like Terminators.
"NOT THE TWIN TOWERS" - Tyrecordslol
Hey, he went to Amy's birthday party and got her the best gift, so it's not impossible that he'd go. Although, I hope Rouge can find out what day he was created so we can have a Shadow birthday party.
@Mysticgamer Amy and Shadow are not actually friends.
@galten7361 And yet, he still went to her party and got her hard to get tickets. At very least, he's a gracious host.
I LOVE TEAM DARK.
I LOVE SHADOW HAVING BONDS AND CONNECTIONS AND MOTIVATION TO FIGHT EVIL AND PROTECT THE EARTH BEYOND JUST MARIA.
@CapnJigglypuff Shadow does not care about mankind. He is not Batman and never was outside of stuff like Archie or fanon. He always protected the world on Maria's opinions.
Episode 1
Shadow gets angsty about his purpose in life
Maria hug
Fight scene
Episode 2
Shadow gets angsty about his purpose in life
Maria hug
Fight scene
I'm sensing a pattern here.
I always appreciated how, in Sonic Heroes, Rouge is the leader of Team Dark. She's the one who created it, the one who impulses their movement.
Hope they keep that sentiment.
I think Shadow forgot about the fact he was related to the larvae when he lost his memories, when he got his memory back he remembered that interaction with Maria
we had his name, now we need to know when GUN Commander Abraham got his love for the endless Pasta Bucket... maybe that's how he copes
& yeah i love that Rouge & Sonic are the 2 Extrovers holding together an entire group of Introverts
I'm convinced that if the Sonic fanbase gets a full 23 minutes of this quality from an episode, they might start collectively foaming from the mouth from hype.
I'll include myself in that.
Ian Flynn said he came up with the name since he made it for a fanfic before using it in the comic.
@VerdantRange As far as Flynn shoving in fanon that's one of the acceptable cases.
The commander being named Abraham also keeps things in line with Shadow's biblical inspirations, which is neat.
So TRUE 😂😂
I just loved that I got to see Omega do things. He's one of my favorite Sonic characters cause I love how simple and straightforward he is. Also, thank god they made him look fast. Since 06, he's always felt so clunky. I know he's big, but E-123 can MOVE with those boosters.
I'd kill for a whole show with this tone and artstyle, very impressed with all of this.
Honestly, as just a passive observer that has showed up in the past couple months, I've paid more attention to your patreon readings than I ever have to anyone else's. Your wild fans with their crazy names, building their own little hilarious stories have legitimately made them an enjoyable experience. From everyone trying to get you to read out the opening to Sonic Underground, to the Helium saga, it's always a ride.
The Anmaiton was so good that I’m praying and hoping they make a Sonic tv show with this style
I watched Channel pups video and his reaction to team dale being back was HILARIOUS 🤣. Glad to see you old Shadow fans finally eating for once. I’m new to the fandom so I haven’t suffered for a decade.
*The voice acting is really too good, and the animation is absolute peak. Ian Flynn 🐐 and Sega is cooking bro!* 💯🔥
8:38 "Additional supply depots required" 😂
i wish i had friends too
I still haven't seen this video yet, but I always love seeing Shadow have friends because he deserves them and I'm super-excited to see what you think of the masterpiece that was Dark Beginnings Episode 3.
@Rishi123456789 They're not friends, they're comrades. They have unbreakable bonds, but not the bonds of Sonic with Tails/Knuckles/Amy.
none of the other reactions or breakdowns i've watched noted how shadow knowing he's an alien hybrid back then was new information, it stood out pretty strongly to me so i was starting to think i must be misremembering or going crazy here lol.
There are a handful that mention it but no one goes as much into detail or that it makes sense since after SA2 until the end of shadow 05 shadow has amnesia and cant remember shit about his past
actually like team dark being somewhat mercenaries as it basically makes shadow the king of fighters 'k with how he,maxima(a sonic & kof crossover would go hard just seeing team dark with them like omega competing with him at shooting enemies.:3) and kula don't work for heidern but will team up from him/whip's request.
I JUST REALIZED THE YELLOW CHAOS EMERALD HE HAS AT THE END OF THE FIRST ONE IS THE DAMN 4TH CHAOS EMERALD LOLLLL
0:09 I love that shot of Rouge!
Doesn't Black Doom refer to those Death Leeches as his children when he tells them to eat Sonic and his friends whilst they're paralyzed? It makes sense to me if they're larvae, since Black Doom wants his "children" to grow up big and strong.
Sonic the Hedgehog referencing 9/11 was not on my 2024 Bingo Card
I really do appreciate Omega having absurd lines. First meat bags from Chronicles and Team Racing and now I call dibs and of course-"OOH CHUNKY NOT UNLIKE MYSELF"? What the frick are his writers thinking?!
Here's a hint as to why Abe disliked Shadow so much at the start of this animation: Look at 0:44 in the Sonic X Shadow Generations - Official Gerald Robotnik’s Journal Infomercial Video here on UA-cam. There's a quick flash of an image of Abe sitting with Maria reading books together. He wasn't lying in Shadow the Hedgehog when he talked about how she was family to him on the ARK. But to him, Maria started spending lots more time with the emotionally vulnerable Hedgehog she probably feels responsible for since he was born to save her and be beats himself up over not saving her sooner. He was a kid who is jealous. He had spied on Dr Robotnik and Black Doom, found out about Shadow being part Alien, and lashed out at the "THING" that took his friend away from him. It's entirely reasonable. We had also learned in the Shadow the Hedgehog Game that he blames Shadow for his parents' and Maria's deaths on the ARK, until he finds out from the last Recording of Gerald Robotnik that GUN was the culprit, and he and the President lament the way they treated him. Finally extending an Olive (Garden) Branch to Shadow by apologizing and asking if he would like to come over, since he recently became a Grandfather.
That's what I love about Flynn's writing in Sonic. There's little hints and bits and pieces taken from everywhere, and you can surely go find even more info about them, if yo look hard enough.
I literally paused the video when omega said "I call dibs" because I couldn't believe they remembered he had a character 💀
A Rouge chantageando e tentando fazer o Shadow se socializar, me lembrou muito aquelas cenas ondem a Mulher Maravilha tentava fazer o mesmo com Batman 😂
Ou aqueles memes do extrovertido que adota o introvertido
I love seeing content like this, it is so good, and to have it be official canon, and everything I’ve grown up with continue on is just great. I sadly miss a lot of the Easter eggs so I’m really glad there’s someone to point all of these things out.
really loved team dark's interactions in eggman's sa2 pyramid base especially omega's "i call dibs"(alongside heroes ian is peak omega/good balance for his voice.) & rouge asking shadow to come to sonic's birthday being rather cute(love the moments those 2 have and her actually liking the blue blur enough to celebrate.:3).
interesting we finally hear the g.u.n commander's name(considering it's implied after he saw gerald with black doom creating shadow could see him being uncomfortable at maria taking his attention to shadow.)/shadow's realization of him having alien dna in him(still find it stupid but do think they handled it well with maria comforting him about it with everything he goes through.).
thought the egg breaker was going to be piloted by eggman at first(hope we see a shot of him before he sends out the time eater.)
On the Archie days it was Ian who came with the name for him, mainly cuz he didn't want to just keep calling him Commander
6:42 I want to see Rouge in a Batwoman suit. Black/red or silver/pink, both would look good & be fitting on her AND she can have a Catwoman-like dynamic opposite "Shadowman"
If this whole year was a football game then this has definitely been the craziest halftime show comeback ever 😅
10 minutes retelling of 3,5 minutes animation is a high tier slop. I even thought I watched pyro for a sec there, keep it up
This channel continues to be super cool to me, just real dang jazzed its still here. Watching this video and kinda chuckling to myself at how dramatic the scenes in the background are, I had this weird epiphany where I sorta existed all at once, if that makes sense. Watching Shadow punch the ground and Maria hug him took me right back to the silly forums I used to browse and the equally silly fanfictions we all used to write about these characters. I never stopped writing, found a true love and passion for it, and its cool that it grew from playing Sonic games as an impressionable child lol. I like to think that Ian Flynn(spelling? I've never had the human decency to look up his name lol oof) potentially wrote some silly fanfics on a sonic forum somewhere along the line and now he writes sonic fanfics for realsies. That's tight. Thanks for the channel and all the content bro, I don't keep up with Sonic going-ons the way I used to, so I would have never had these thoughts had I not been subbed. Its good to be here
I love all your "theories" and breakdowns of sonic topics because I have the same thoughts. I also love how you present these videos, It's crazy that your page is the only page I pay attention to when on the topic about the sonic-verse. I have never been interested in Shadows game, so the fact that you're going to stream it, I'm invested. I know I'll have a good time.
Bring Team Dark back without the Meta Era Shadow personality! Rouge and Omega are his friends and the 2 characters Shadow trusts the most!
9:10 In my opinion this is to get Shadow to socialize but my importantly this might be because she knows something’s really bothering Shadow, so she probably wants him to go to the party so Sonic can annoy him enough to get Shadow’s mind off of it, at least temporary. Since let’s be honest, if the Time Eater incident didn’t happen and Shadow showed up normally (probably still late lol), Sonic would have probably tried to race him at least once for fun. I mean seriously, Shadow is the only being who can keep up with Sonic going full speed (Blaze and Metal I feel get close, but not quite on Sonic’s level), so Sonic would probably try to see if he can keep his title of “fastest thing alive” against Shadow
Not gonna lie nick, you actually conivced me that a classic shadow does sound intresting. I think the only real issue would gameplay honestly
Honestly and this is just me, whenever I read Omega’s lines in the comics, sometimes my brain short circuits and I hear Omega’s voice as something like a child’s, specifically Alphonse Elric, and it fits so well I can’t get it out of my head. 😂
Sweet Chaos above Sega, just green light a series. Put these guys in charge of a Sonic Prime sized project. Make good decisions for once, I beg you!
Just feed me a full 12 episode, 30 minute series featuring Team Dark using this animation team, SEGA, and I will stop begging for a Chao Garden. It's that good.
If we go to the new profiles and placement on time, Rouge wants to go to the party but doesn't want to go alone.
She is a social person but it's pretty distrustfull of others, Shadow and Omega are the only 2 she fully trust, and barely has interacted with the rest casually, like in Sonic battle if you analyze, each time she is casual end in a argument or and adward situation, she doesn't know how interact with other.
Annoy Shadow it's simply a funny bonus.
Besides it's likely that outside her team, Sonic, Knuckles and Tails are the ones she feels, more or less ,comfortable to be around.
As much as i like robotic speaking robot Omega, him having a personality and say "I C A L L D I B S" hits all the right spots
He always has been one to act first and go for it after all
They really kept Abe's hair the same when he was a kid? He should've had brown hair or something. Idk, that bugs me lol
I LOVED Omega's "I CALL DIBS!" XD And seeing more Shadow and Maria is always wonderful!
Wait until Shadow realizes he doesn't look like a hedgehog either. 😂
1:33 missed opportunity to say black creature
DISGUSTING BLACK CREATURES 💀💀💀
They KNOW not to do that now LOL
"Disgusting black creatures"
-shadow
Love the detail that Rouge's eyes get brighter once she notices Shadow
I love seeing team dark return makes me so happy 😀
6:00 Ooooooooh, I got it now. Took me a minute to realize you were referring to-
I'm lost
@@Jr-Reedcertain twin towers who got hit by something that explodes
I cant believe that Roger Craig Smith would be the most debated voice of Sonic and unquestionably one of the best voices for Omega.
What a time to be alive.
It bothers me a bit that Rouge called out Sonic's birthday, because that basically debunk the theory that Shadow's from the future. I liked that theory.
Omega is now my 3rd favorite character from his first line (i haven't even played any games with him in it)
Kid must have super hearing to be able to hear past an airlock
8:19 The eyes of the logo makes me think that it's almost means as if Eggman is watching.
When you said rouge's pose could be a batman reference I instantly thought that it could have instead been a reference to darkstalkers because of Morgan. so I looked through the openings of the games and found a similar pose in the third one not the exact pose but similar in the 3rd game done by surprisingly jeddah. Still could be a batman reference but i thought i would share my findings
Worth knowing that Maria always knew.
It’s fun to see the way Team Dark is, Omega being trigger happy when it comes to blowing up Egg-bots, Shadow is a lone wolf but actually enjoys having some company even if he doesn’t show it, and Rouge being the one that has to keep the three together.
(And I will say I enjoy the thought that Sonic and Rouge have a sibling vibe of being the same age while Sonic and Tails has a more older sibling vibe)
@SuperVideowatcher01 Shadow's bonds are Maria and Gerald as family, Rouge with Omega as his comrades, Sonic as his rival he tries to outdo but admits he's capable, everyone else in the living cast ranging from enemies to allies when needed to NPCS.
I think he sometimes works on behalf of gun, but he doesn’t actually work for them
Sonic franchise coming back from the dead since the makers of the first movie changing Sonics face!
Rogues being messy making shadow go to Sonic’s birthday 😂😂😂😂
Can't put into words how good it felt to be an omega fan when the episode dropped.
I didn't think Shadow would be looking for that rocket ship. I thought he would use that teleporter Eggman used
The Commander got a full name in the Archie Comics. His name is Abraham Tower.
"you guys get mad at the weirdest things."
On one hand, we're sonic fans
On the other hand, sonic has been through enough "classic being forced" shenanigans that people just dont want to even think about it.
On the third hand, sonic has also just horribly inconsistent with story, and while i dont think that would take much away, it is a bit of a change that just feels like it would be there for "shock value"