If this looks familiar, it's because already made this video once before but for the Londonist channel eight years ago in 2013! I got small parts of it wrong (and a chunk of it missing) so I thought it was about time to remake it and make it look better on my own channel, but you can see the original here: ua-cam.com/video/6ZXK1rqAIQ0/v-deo.html
They appeared when the station closed for rebuilding in 2008, around the time the H&C station was renamed. They must have planned to rename them both, then realised how unnecessary it was.
Yes, a number of line diagrams at various stations on the Central Line refer to "Shepherd's Bush Green," made up during the period when that renaming was considered. I suppose they thought it would be easy enough to cover up the word "Green" with masking tape if the name change didn't go ahead (which of course it didn't), but it seems they just left them there as they were.
Hi Geoff, I just want to say thank you so much for all your videos! I love them so much and they have really helped me through lockdown and have been so fun and educational to watch, please keep up the fantastic work!
I've got a lot of shopping to do. I have to go to Wood Lane, then Wood Lane, then White City and White City and then Shepherd's Bush followed by Shepherd's Bush and finally Shepherd's Bush.
I only knew approx 1/2 of what was shared here - amazing historic recollections you are preserving for the future Geoff - splendid! Fascinating to see the remnants that (in decades) are still just sitting there.
Hey Geoff, I really enjoy all of your videos, as a tube/maps/London lover. But since it's a while since I didn't use the tube, I'd love to see a close up on the whole tube map zooming on the station that you're having a video of 😊 it would work well for me as a reminder ahah
Wow. I knew a lot of that. But I didn't realize that the lawn down to Richmond was once a railway line but I did know that up until 2010 South West trains did run down the district line between Putney and Wimbledon
I'm glad they renamed one, as the H&C and Central Line Shepherd's Bush stations are quite a distance apart, further than the two Edgware Road stations!
Yes, I'm surprised that they haven't renamed one of the Edgware Road stations by now. I would have thought when they did the major refurbishment of the Bakerloo platforms and the first time round lift renewal in the 80's (necessitating the station's closure for a few months) would have been the ideal opportunity. Instead, they were considering renaming the other station "Chapel Street" at the time, which came to nothing. The Bakerloo station did get renamed temporarily whilst the lifts were being replaced a second time in the 2000's....vinyls appeared on all the platform side roundels proclaiming "Station Closed!!" for the duration..
I like a good pun, but that one was baaaaaaaaaad! (And by the way, it's supposed to be an 'unemployed' shepherd....are ewe trying to pull the wool over our eyes?).
One of my favorite things to do after these videos is to spot the old alignments on Google Earth. I'm amazed how clear it is over 100 years later considering all the redevelopment in that area.
There was also a link between the West London line and the Central line north of White City as part of the Ealing & Shepherds Bush Railway (which is also the reason the CLR tracks swap to right-hand-running)
White City station closes due to fire in 1959, but one of the signs somehow has the TFL website? I'm guessing it was a new sign put up since then and the burned sign is a remnant of the 1950's?
I worked on the modern builds as project manager. Under the bus stop and the LU station control room are huge shafts built for access for all schemes. The bus stop one was back filled with ballast and the bus stop placed on top! What a waste! It was de-scoped. After it was built!
Glossed over the bit where the Central line's Wood Lane station was built in the depot and had one platform when it opened in 1908 and then got two more when the extension to Ealing opened. And that there was an approved plan in 1920 to extend the Central line from Shepherd's Bush to Richmond via Hammersmith Grove Road and Turnham Green.
A bird in The Strand is worth two in Shepherds Bush. There is a joke with the punchline 'Feltham Clapham and Turnham Green, but I can't remember how the rest of it goes.
All the time 🎵🎵 We've got some half priced cracked ice And miles and miles of carpet tiles TV's, deep freeze and David Bowie LP's Pool games, gold chains, wosnames And at a push Some Trevor Francis track-suites From a mush in Shepherds Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush No income tax, no VAT No money back, no guarantee Black or white, rich or broke We'll cut prices at a stroke God bless Hooky Street Viva Hooky Street Long live Hooky Street C'est magnifique Hooky Street Magnifique Hooky Street 🎵🎵
I lived in a block of flats ('The Grampians') that was built on the trackbed of the former LSW line, in fact it connected to a squash club that's in the bridge taking Shepherd's Bush Rd over the line. The track bed of the LSW route is easily identifiable from Shepherd's Bush Road to what is now Olympia station. Although the line closed in 1916 it was not until 1933 that 'The Grampians' was built. The original scheme was to build similar blocks all the way along the alignment, but in the end only the one was built. I've been told that the original conveyance for the site mentions London Transport, which suggests that the trackbed was transferred to LT when it was formed. There was, for many years, a folk myth among railway enthusiasts that the basement flats had been built to accommodate the railway loading gauge should the line have ever been reinstated. As a former occupant of the block I can state unambiguously that this is not the case!
Interesting point at 2:55-Freston Road itself goes below the viaduct just as the remnant of the Latimer Road curve starts to branch off, and it is allegedly this arch that Rick Astley is dancing under in the Never Gonna Give You Up video (it does, at least, look more or less the same). So that is what relates rickrolling to the fact that the Circle Line now goes to Hammersmith (and not Olympia, which would be more consistent with the Middle Circle precedent).
Hello Geoff, I am sorry to be pedantic, however it is the London and North Western Railway or as they were also known as LNWR. Best wishes and take care. Kind regards, Peter Skuce. St Albans. Hertfordshire.
I don't think any of the station signs carry the apostrophe in "Shepherd's Bush" any more now. They always used to in the 70's, at both the Central and Met.(now H&C) stations.
I'm glad I don't live in London. Too many stations appearing and disappearing all the time! When I've visited I've found walking has been easiest for navigation and finding train back to Scotland.
Can we have a video about the Central Line, where the tracks cross over just west of Shepherds Bush, go through White City on the 'wrong' side, and then cross back again before East Acton?
The platforms of Shepherd's Bush [Orange Line] overlap with the location of Uxbridge Road's platforms. Therefore, it is not inaccurate to say that Shepherd's Bush Overground was built on the site of Uxbridge Road.
Yes, a complicated history there, but I think people are used to the current situation now. I think you do still get folks looking on the map for "Trafalgar Square" though from time to time!!
So what happens to Oyster if you travel Shepherds Bush to Shepherds Bush ? Or Shepherds Bush Market to one of the Shepherds Bush's ? Like Catford to Catford Bridge? Any fare available ? 😩😩😩😅😅😅
You know what's interesting? The Franco-British exhibition. I knew that white city was the location and that BBC TV centre was built there but that was about it. Add it happens the site was bigger than just the TV centre site and looking at old maps you can see that it went all the way up past the A40, which didn't exist at the time. The name White City comes from the exhibition whose buildings where white and the former white city stadium was built for the 1908 Olympics which were held at the same time as the exhibition
Wood Lane has a loop for a while, yes .. (using a wooden platform extender!) but i've not mention that here, this was just to show the timeline of all the same-named-stations in the area!
If this looks familiar, it's because already made this video once before but for the Londonist channel eight years ago in 2013! I got small parts of it wrong (and a chunk of it missing) so I thought it was about time to remake it and make it look better on my own channel, but you can see the original here: ua-cam.com/video/6ZXK1rqAIQ0/v-deo.html
Wow cool Geoff. Your the best londonist. Whens next vid
Wow this is amazing and interesting
Hi geof cary on the great work we all love it 🙂🙂😀
Nice
Hi geoff
You can really see the effect that having several train companies had, it's really interesting!
I've been to Hammersmith tube station three times. All three times to see The Frantic Four, also known as Status Quo. Legendary!
4 or 5 if you include Andy Bown saw them at Middlesbrough Town Hall a few years ago just as good rocking through the years. Pity about Rick RIP
@@JJJGGG538 probably Rockin all over the tube
Then there is the Pre-Fab Four...
@@dodo1opps I think the description is Frantic Four or if your Enid Blyton ...........
Probably the Infamous 5.
To avoid confusion, they should rename one of the stations Shepherd's Boosh.
The signs on the central line platforms at Liverpool Street have Shepherd’s Bush green marked on them even though the station was never called that
All the signs on the Westbound platforms at Gants Hill say Shepherds Bush Green too
They appeared when the station closed for rebuilding in 2008, around the time the H&C station was renamed. They must have planned to rename them both, then realised how unnecessary it was.
Yes, a number of line diagrams at various stations on the Central Line refer to "Shepherd's Bush Green," made up during the period when that renaming was considered. I suppose they thought it would be easy enough to cover up the word "Green" with masking tape if the name change didn't go ahead (which of course it didn't), but it seems they just left them there as they were.
@@ianmcclavin In the case of Gants Hill they managed to cover over the Epping to Ongar Branch so I imagine that covering the 'Green' was an oversight?
I feel sorry for the people of Shepherd's Bush, they’ve never had a station
Ealing is just as bad.
Wait till you see Acton.
@@inigovanaman1655 'Acton' is one of the most common *words* on the tube map.
@@tmb8807 Not sure if you got the joke.
How about areas that dont even have a train station yet
Used to live right there on Goldhawk Rd. There was a fantastic night club in a disused Victorian toilet on the green. The club was capped ginglik
Sounds like the opening credits to a 1970s sitcom Soap" confused ? you will be ......"
No beating around the bush explaining that lot Geoff.
At least there's no bull - unlike on the Northern Line
@@1963TOMB Ah, but there could've been a bush on the Northern Line too!
@@scythal Hiding place for the elephant, keep it off that farm.
👏👏👏👏👏
Hi Geoff, I just want to say thank you so much for all your videos! I love them so much and they have really helped me through lockdown and have been so fun and educational to watch, please keep up the fantastic work!
You are very kind and welcome! thanks Sandra, it's been tough times for us all ... here's to 2021 being so much better!
@@geofftech2 That didn't age well, did it?
I've got a lot of shopping to do. I have to go to Wood Lane, then Wood Lane, then White City and White City and then Shepherd's Bush followed by Shepherd's Bush and finally Shepherd's Bush.
I only knew approx 1/2 of what was shared here - amazing historic recollections you are preserving for the future Geoff - splendid! Fascinating to see the remnants that (in decades) are still just sitting there.
Glad you enjoyed it, many thanks!
nice video. Thank you Geoff for the ENG subtitles, a great help for not mother tongue (like me). Ciao from Italy
Hey Geoff, I really enjoy all of your videos, as a tube/maps/London lover. But since it's a while since I didn't use the tube, I'd love to see a close up on the whole tube map zooming on the station that you're having a video of 😊 it would work well for me as a reminder ahah
Always interesting to see these videos showing the development of railways in a certain area.
Wow. I knew a lot of that. But I didn't realize that the lawn down to Richmond was once a railway line but I did know that up until 2010 South West trains did run down the district line between Putney and Wimbledon
I'm glad they renamed one, as the H&C and Central Line Shepherd's Bush stations are quite a distance apart, further than the two Edgware Road stations!
Yes, I'm surprised that they haven't renamed one of the Edgware Road stations by now. I would have thought when they did the major refurbishment of the Bakerloo platforms and the first time round lift renewal in the 80's (necessitating the station's closure for a few months) would have been the ideal opportunity. Instead, they were considering renaming the other station "Chapel Street" at the time, which came to nothing. The Bakerloo station did get renamed temporarily whilst the lifts were being replaced a second time in the 2000's....vinyls appeared on all the platform side roundels proclaiming "Station Closed!!" for the duration..
Do love these time-lines, thank you Geoff !
That’s really good explanation for background of all the lines in Shepherd’s Bush and curve causing terrible noise on the Central line
I remember the Londonist video of Shepherd's Bush Geoff; nice to get a wee refresher.👍😁
So few Shepherds, so much Bush. Confused - you will be. Give it another 100 years.
Did you hear about the shepherd that retired to the Pacific Northwest?
He was sheepless in Seattle
I like a good pun, but that one was baaaaaaaaaad! (And by the way, it's supposed to be an 'unemployed' shepherd....are ewe trying to pull the wool over our eyes?).
@@davidyoung5114 I'm getting the flock out of here
Yeah, I heard his chimney went on fire, as a result of him being....................
yep, sweepless in Seattle.
And all because of one shepherd who, seeking shelter from the elements, carved a niche for himself into one of the bushes around there. (true!)
my family on my mother's side come from shepherds bush.
I have been watching for at least 8 years
One of my favorite things to do after these videos is to spot the old alignments on Google Earth. I'm amazed how clear it is over 100 years later considering all the redevelopment in that area.
There was also a link between the West London line and the Central line north of White City as part of the Ealing & Shepherds Bush Railway (which is also the reason the CLR tracks swap to right-hand-running)
Fantastic video Geoff, been watching for yesrs
While you were waiting u should have stopped your events
great video Geoff, some nice history about lots of stations called ''sheperds's bush
White City station closes due to fire in 1959, but one of the signs somehow has the TFL website? I'm guessing it was a new sign put up since then and the burned sign is a remnant of the 1950's?
I worked on the modern builds as project manager. Under the bus stop and the LU station control room are huge shafts built for access for all schemes. The bus stop one was back filled with ballast and the bus stop placed on top! What a waste! It was de-scoped. After it was built!
Glossed over the bit where the Central line's Wood Lane station was built in the depot and had one platform when it opened in 1908 and then got two more when the extension to Ealing opened. And that there was an approved plan in 1920 to extend the Central line from Shepherd's Bush to Richmond via Hammersmith Grove Road and Turnham Green.
Take a shot every time Geoff says “Shepherds Bush”
See you in the next life 😉
I know the recent renovations upgraded travel experience but I do miss the character of the old station.
Thanks so much for uploading this video to UA-cam
Very complicated but very informative, lovely video.
A bird in The Strand is worth two in Shepherds Bush.
There is a joke with the punchline 'Feltham Clapham and Turnham Green, but I can't remember how the rest of it goes.
She was a very attractive driver with an infectious smile.
Good old Shepherd's Bush.. Does anyone else just mentally repeat the word "bush" like the theme song from Only Fools and Horses or is that just me?
I didn't until I read your comment but now I have the whole theme tune running through my head. Lol
All the time
🎵🎵 We've got some half priced cracked ice
And miles and miles of carpet tiles
TV's, deep freeze and David Bowie LP's
Pool games, gold chains, wosnames
And at a push
Some Trevor Francis track-suites
From a mush in Shepherds Bush, Bush, Bush,
Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush
No income tax, no VAT
No money back, no guarantee
Black or white, rich or broke
We'll cut prices at a stroke
God bless Hooky Street
Viva Hooky Street
Long live Hooky Street
C'est magnifique Hooky Street
Magnifique Hooky Street 🎵🎵
@@tinplategeek1058 I've watched every episode of OFAH at least 17 times and yet that's the first time I've ever read the lyrics. Thanks!
Brilliant, will go exploring for the remnants as live locally
I lived in a block of flats ('The Grampians') that was built on the trackbed of the former LSW line, in fact it connected to a squash club that's in the bridge taking Shepherd's Bush Rd over the line.
The track bed of the LSW route is easily identifiable from Shepherd's Bush Road to what is now Olympia station.
Although the line closed in 1916 it was not until 1933 that 'The Grampians' was built. The original scheme was to build similar blocks all the way along the alignment, but in the end only the one was built.
I've been told that the original conveyance for the site mentions London Transport, which suggests that the trackbed was transferred to LT when it was formed.
There was, for many years, a folk myth among railway enthusiasts that the basement flats had been built to accommodate the railway loading gauge should the line have ever been reinstated. As a former occupant of the block I can state unambiguously that this is not the case!
Beautiful video, as always, well done 👍👍👍🥳🥳🥳
Very interesting history. Thank you for sharing this video.
This is absolutely brilliant I absolutely love this video
Quite a herd of Shepherd's Bushes there.
Don't you mean "flock"?
Everytime I see that name I just think of “Shepherd’s Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush, no income tax, no VAT” 🎶
You broke my heart in seventeen places...... Shepherd's Bush was only one!
Interesting point at 2:55-Freston Road itself goes below the viaduct just as the remnant of the Latimer Road curve starts to branch off, and it is allegedly this arch that Rick Astley is dancing under in the Never Gonna Give You Up video (it does, at least, look more or less the same).
So that is what relates rickrolling to the fact that the Circle Line now goes to Hammersmith (and not Olympia, which would be more consistent with the Middle Circle precedent).
Hello Geoff, I am sorry to be pedantic, however it is the London and North Western Railway or as they were also known as LNWR.
Best wishes and take care. Kind regards, Peter Skuce. St Albans. Hertfordshire.
Lesson learned, never tell anyone to meet you at Shepherd's Bush station.
Hi Geoff. Always great information on the railways 👍🏻 5 stars 🤩
I don't think any of the station signs carry the apostrophe in "Shepherd's Bush" any more now. They always used to in the 70's, at both the Central and Met.(now H&C) stations.
The apostrophes have all migrated onto the greengrocers' price boards (tomato's, apple's, pear's, potato's ...).
@@1258-Eckhart :You forgot the Union's!!
Thanks for a video on my local area, so interesting
No Sleep 'Til Hammersmith!!
I'm glad I don't live in London. Too many stations appearing and disappearing all the time! When I've visited I've found walking has been easiest for navigation and finding train back to Scotland.
Ah, the best thing that ever came out of London.😁
Thanks for the video I fill absolutely bush wacked know!!😎🚃🚃🚃🇬🇧
Great work Geoff. How about all of the Acton stations?
Good memories watching this from Australia from my time in London -
Keep em coming.
What software do you use for your line and map graphics?
Very informative, thank you.
Do one about all the stations at Acton!
Needs to start off with a navy ship klaxon and someone shouting "Action stations! Action stations!" ;-)
I LIKE THE VIDEOS OF THIS CHANNEL BEFORE I WATCH THE VIDEO.
love your videos, would you ever do a video about Burnley as the town has 2 lines that don't join with the central line not being the main line
This is absolutely chaotic but I wouldn't have it any other way
last time i was at Shepherds Bush tube was 8 years ago!
Excellent as always Geoff. You have great histories over there. Do you guys ever do "I Don't Know What I'm Doing" any more?
Your videos are amazing
poor Geoff, you said 1884 but wrote 1844, its 1844 right? cause 1864 is "later"
Can we have a video about the Central Line, where the tracks cross over just west of Shepherds Bush, go through White City on the 'wrong' side, and then cross back again before East Acton?
The tracks of the two Hammersmith stations should be joined together. The 100 metre separation is sufficient to cover any track height difference.
Wait, it's all Shepherd's Bush?
Nice 👍 just a heads up that Acton Main Line (new ticket hall) has opened today!!
Brilliant video
Just an idea. Could you put an arrow on the maps you make. (Good maps by the way.) Showing north or south. Thank you.
With virtually all maps, the convention is that unless otherwise marked, the top is north, so it's not really necessary here.
Nice animation
The platforms of Shepherd's Bush [Orange Line] overlap with the location of Uxbridge Road's platforms. Therefore, it is not inaccurate to say that Shepherd's Bush Overground was built on the site of Uxbridge Road.
Wood Lane (White City) is where the world's famous BBC Television Centre building was based.
Nicely done thank you 👍
Didn't realise that the viaduct west of Hammersmith Piccadilly/District station was abandoned so long ago.
What software do you use the make these videos pleasE? Thanks
After Effects! it's what most people use ...
@@geofftech2 thank you so much for letting me know but also for noticing me I have been blessed 🤩
@@geofftech2
Did you use skillshare?
Just as complicated as Charing Cross and Embankment.
Yes, a complicated history there, but I think people are used to the current situation now. I think you do still get folks looking on the map for "Trafalgar Square" though from time to time!!
So what happens to Oyster if you travel Shepherds Bush to Shepherds Bush ? Or Shepherds Bush Market to one of the Shepherds Bush's ? Like Catford to Catford Bridge? Any fare available ? 😩😩😩😅😅😅
I like you Geoff keep going!
Will you be back on the trains after April 12?
and all for one shepherd
and his bush!
Thanks for that Geoff. Now I'm completely confused... kind of normal for me though.
Taxi Driver: where to?
Me: Shepherds Bush Station, please
Taxi Driver: Could you be a little more specific?
You know what's interesting? The Franco-British exhibition. I knew that white city was the location and that BBC TV centre was built there but that was about it.
Add it happens the site was bigger than just the TV centre site and looking at old maps you can see that it went all the way up past the A40, which didn't exist at the time.
The name White City comes from the exhibition whose buildings where white and the former white city stadium was built for the 1908 Olympics which were held at the same time as the exhibition
That was a bushy situation indeed...
Wow I'm cornfused.. lol competition was fierce.
I love your videos
Tram line planer *slaps roof of line plan* this baby can fit so many Shepherd's Bush stations in it
Like the new video very much.
That's quite a lot of stations coming and going in a small area
Nice one Geoff.
I lived in Shepherd’s Bush for about 130 years - it was so confusing I eventually had to emigrate!
Didn't the Central Line loop around at White City Stadium?
Wood Lane has a loop for a while, yes .. (using a wooden platform extender!) but i've not mention that here, this was just to show the timeline of all the same-named-stations in the area!
Quick note @geoff - at 0:14 / 0:15 you say eighteen-EIGHTY-four, but the text on screen is showing eighteen-FORTY-four .... ! :)
Very interesting Geoff 🙂🚂🚂🚂
You should try to get in to the new CAF factory in Newport (South Wales), it would be a cool vid!
There is an old London Underground proverb: "Red line at night - Shepherd's Bush!"
That's a lot of beating around the Bush..
What happened about awesome trains and buses