Withers revealing Lae'zel fate after ascension - Baldur's Gate 3
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Withers revealing Lae'zel fate after ascension - Baldur's Gate 3
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I thought I knew the answer after the Vlaakith cutscene, but now I'm not so sure anymore, his words seem to be clearly implying that...but also not?
What do you all think?
well she's dead and cannot be resurected because her souls was consume by Vlaakith so rip
It was pretty clear to me. She was killed by Vlaakith. Withers just can't confirm it. Going on poetically about her tenacity and spirit doesn't change that.
@@TylerRosenowThat was (and is) my assumption, given the plethora of evidence around
@@kingbradley6602🥲
@@TylerRosenow Withers states that Lae'zel was Vlaakith supper . At around 0:41 :(
Vlaakith spending thousands of years to try and become a god, and Gale casually does it in less than 6 months.
I didn't even think of that 😂
He's just that good
To be fair, Gale cheated... but in a way so is Vlaakith, so I guess it evens out?
@@maxi1ification I wouldn't say he "cheated", more like he gambled, but had to work for it nonetheless, and risked his life
You might say she lacked ambition :^)
Vlaakith: Consumed the life of 50.000 of her people
The Emperor of Mankind:
You gotta need to boost this numbers up, they're rookie numbers
Lmao
Someone finally turn that skeleton off
@@Keram-io8hv Haha, Great Rift opens, Emps goes BROOOOOM! DID YA MISS ME, YA'LL?!
That's not even 2 months for him 😅
Hey, she's only been doing this for about 3 thousand years, not 10. And she only consumes the souls of her warriors who pass 15th level (back in 2e, maybe drop that to 12th in the current edition). She only eats the strongest, before they're strong enough to challenge her.
Who's surprised, Voss said pretty clearly she Vlak fed on her ascended to fuel her god powers. It's like Norse mythology with a twist, only warriors who die in battle, nobody else, but the twist is their fate is worse.
._.
I finished the game last night, in my playthrough Lazael becomes a dragon rider and leads the rebellion against vlakith, her astral projection comes to the reunion.
That's probably the most common epilogue for her, if I were to guess :p
Consumed to the point that wven withers can't find you is dead dead
😞
>The most sad fate for a companion explained at length
>*Meanwhile the Music*
😂😔
Withers can be a real Jergal sometimes
Get out! 🤣🤣
This comment needs more likes 😂😂
I figured the whole “ascension” thing with Vlaakith was some bullshit before the epilogues came out. This just confirms it.
Well if that's the case, I knew her "cure" wasn't going to be a cure since the first moment she mentioned it XD, but it's good to have the game confirm it and not leave it up to speculation
Two birds with one stone - she feeds her horcrux, and she removes anyone high level enough to have a chance to usurp her.
you spinning the cursor around frog legs earned you the like lmaooo
Why thank you 😂
Of course Withers knows. He’s probably one of (of at least the avatar of) the most powerful being we see in the game. I’d wager even Mystra would cower in fear if he decided he didn’t like her.
Only name dropped in the entire game (that I’m aware of) that’s more powerful would be AO the Overgod obviously.
Wait, where is AO mentioned?
Also, didn't Withers renounce his power and divide it into the three main god antagonists of the game?
@@uvbe Gale mentions AO. More than once I believe. But for sure retorting Tav that Mystra doesn’t get a say in denying Gale’s ascension to godhood. And that only AO has that authority.
And I thought he only renounced his portfolio. I feel like he was powerful even without worshippers.
Jergall is an elder god, but his power is not what it is used to be, because he voluntary gave it up. He is a seneshal to Kelemvor now.
Mystra is a greater deity. Jergall still holds some power and can use magic. Mystra [is] magic. So no, Mystra can be troubled by a knowledge Jergall has, but "cower in fear" - no.
the casual giggle around "a pair of fried frog legs" killed me
😂😭
The cheerful music in the background during the conversation is killing me 😂
😂😂😭
anyone know the name of the song? can't find it
@@ninjablood2799 Here, I have it up on the channel ^^ : ua-cam.com/video/SrWVrHNLQZo/v-deo.html
@@Saretz thank you very much ❤
@@ninjablood2799 No problem ^^
So... sacrificing her like I did to Booal is a better ending for her than Vlaakith. At least her soul still exists...
LOL, well, I suppose yes XD
the only other thing that would make sense according to this is maybe "greater than the rest" could actually mean she did in fact ascend and Withers can't sense actual deities since the divine is beyond him. We all know "ascend" for Vlaakith means making them undead servants but if you wanted to dig into a theory and say you know -what if- going through Vlaakith is a final challenge, if you weren't devoted enough or you didn't meet certain criteria then you were minioned and that's that, but what if the ascension is a trial and if you pass then Vlaakith does in fact grant at least demi-god status? We know that's not the case but it's a neat -what if- to mull around
Interesting theory, albeit very unlikely, but interesting nonetheless.
I figured the alternative was more on the lines of "she had a last second change of mind and (successfully) ran away, then escaped to the Astral sea and took a portal to the Phlogiston, gods have no authority nor power into the Phlogiston so in a way she'd be "safe" and unattackable, at least from Vlaakith...there are other horrors to deal with in there :c
He's a god, of course he knows.
😅 the question on thumbnail is more about the fact that his wording is always indirect
Vlaakith starting to remind me of the Emporer of Mankind, consuming souls whilst sitting upon the Golden Throne
Not a bad comparison at all
Lots of differences, actually! The Emperor tried to enlighten Mankind and in the end was forcibly placed in the Golden Throne, the only way to keep him quasi-alive and, with that, keep the Astronomican brightly shining (a key factor to the well being of the Imperium). Vlaakith is a selfish tyrant who actively searched for immortality just for her own sake, and retains and grows her power by often consuming her best subjects souls every single time by spreading her greatest lie.
No comparison whatsoever IMHO!
@@giorgioscapparonesuma9151 It's still a fair comparison, if you think of the Githyanki as Imperium of Man LARPers. They have a god-monarch-lich who enables their interdimensional travel across space, they aspire to build an all-encompassing empire, they're brutally militant, they're extremely xenophobic. They just lack the sheer scale and grimdark to make it more like Warhammer.
So many options for DLCs... Karlach in the hells, Lae´zel going after Vlaakith...
Or whole new games
"A pair of frog legs" is Wild
fried frog legs 💀
🥲🥲
might be a human sentiment but for me the best ending for Lae' Zel is if she's been romanced and you get her to stay with you.
If you have the egg from the creche then you raise that little one together and forge a new path for the child.
Lae' zel's ascension and being eaten is even more tragic when you consider how young she is. She's 22 and basically newly graduated, she is barely even considered an adult among her people which was why she was desperate to prove herself
@@n.jboltz599 I agree
Her Orpheus ending is about as good if you opt out of romancing her. She's dedicating her skill and passion to deposing a selfish tyrant, ensuring her people's prosperity by killing the lich and supporting the heir with the true anti-mind flayer powers, and is undoing an ancient blood feud by forging an alliance with the githzerai rebels. She accomplishes practically everything she originally valued and more, without becoming a lich snack, and is raising the gith child well on top of all that.
She was a meal in more ways than one
RIP
😏
If Withere is ... himself, and he can't sense her.
Then ascension means that even her soul is consumed.
🥺
Is that Mr Sinister?!?
Who, where
VLAAKITH ATE LAE'ZEL?! 😂😢
That's one way to say it 😅
Is this the only outcome for her ?
Absolutely not! If anything, it's an outcome almost nobody will go for xD
@@Saretz Good, I just hope it's not the canonical ending, Incase we get a DLC or sequel that pushes the story further
@@biggshoverwelder3690Nah there's no way this is the canonical, if you let Lae'zel make her own decisions throughout the game she ends up choosing Orpheus (it's hard to mess that up), so that's probably the canonical one
@@Saretz At least when you romance her and don't become ilithid, you can convince her to stay with you -- but you are asked what she should do.
@@What_do_I_Think I had the option even in this run, where I pushed her all the way into Vlaakith (it's the old ascension video I posted prior to update 5) and fun fact, if I let her chose on her own there, she still chose to stick around.
I don't know if it's because we were together before (she broke up with me early act 3, that video up too), but that's what she did
As muh as I love Baldurs gate 3. It makes for terrible videos.
The olent protagonist bugs me in video format
I mean, I understand your point, but I don't think that turns it into a "it makes for terrible videos" situation, I'd say that's more on a personal basis
@@SaretzNah, the silent protagonist decision, was an awful one that stands as living testament as to how Reddit ruins everything it touches. Meat riders will protest in between gulps. Every video is of the protagonist either denying or supplying a wet fart (judging by their facial expression) or they cross their arms. I guess the lack of personality in the main character is supposed to help with the self insert fantasy. It's bunk, and that's why everyone who made it past act 1 shits on this game.
@@Asgaardiangatekeeper Who's this everyone you speak of? You're literally the first person I ever read complaining about that, after hundreds and hundreds of comments
That looks like Eren
I'll take it as a compliment xD
@@Saretz you should 😉😉
@@vitorcarvalho7793 😊😊
😮...
👀
Nobody likes vlakith
Agreed xD
Dude I’m playing as Githyanki and i ascended. Try it yourself.
I would try, if I could, sadly don't have a githyanki character :(
@@Saretz well it end’s interestingly.
@@bendover4668Dang now I'm curious
"To be ascended is to be consumed" sums up ascension in the whole game.
Good analogy
"I made you to be consumed". Brings new meaning now, doesn't it?
@@juliakalinina9676That prick.
@@Saretz as they say, you can't choose your family. But I guess, you can choose yourself
@@juliakalinina9676 Never heard that one before, but I like it ✍🗒
Given his....role, the fact Withers can't sense her anywhere is.....troubling.
:( :( :(
Vlakith is a lich, liches consume souls to fuel their phylacteries. Once consumed by a lich, your soul ceases to exist. That is what makes a lich so evil. To consume ones very soul is about the most evil thing you can do.
His ascension is hundreds of years in the making in a way. Karsus started the process of becoming a god only to leave behind the weave so that Gale can ascend.
@@awdrifter3394 Interesting thought
yeah, if Lae'zel were just plain ol' dead he would know that, he would sense her presence in the Fugue Plane. the fact that he fully can't sense her means she's gone somewhere pretty damn obscure, whether she's living, dead, or somewhere in between.
Withers: reveals horrible information about Lae'Zel's fate
*cheerful flute music plays in the background*
I almost, I swear, almost added some text to the video mentioning exactly that lmao
On a few other occasions as well, I really wished there were some serious music playing during serious revelations lol
Well... yeah.
@@123890antonioj for example?
"guess I'll return to the party" ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Withers: I have gathered thee for one last joyous reunion with thine companions.
Tav: Sweet! Btw where's Lae'zel?
Withers: Her soul has been consumed by the queen she so trusted and admired 💀
Way to ruin the mood of your own party, Jergal...
😂
Yeah, and yet he blackholes you for whacking someone during the party and "ruining it'.
@@adriankoch964 Away with thee! Most disgraceful ruiner of celebrations!
@@adriankoch964 does he get mad if you start stealing/collecting (or pickpocketing) everything/everyone at the party? 😂
Does he ressurect those who died or he's just hosting a party for us?
Withers is a nice dude. He tells you what happened but hes not going to shatter your hopes. If you want to believe that Vlaakith might have found her too useful to eat hes not going to tell you thats impossible, even though Vlaakith famously would be *more* likely to eat someone who is more powerful out of fear. If you want to go and try to find her hes certainly not going to stop you, since it might lead to you confronting and possibly defeating Vlaakith, or at the very least dying doing something you find worthy of doing which hes a big fan of.
Withers is the god of death but he still wants you to lead a happy life.
The most cheerful god of death, seemingly
Good stuff nicely said
Actually, Withers (Jergal) is the Eternal Scribe. He records the deeds of the living to be read at the time of their judgement before Kelemvor. He just wants a good story to write.
@@jarrodbright5231 a writer looking for a story?
I started up a Lae'zel run so that I could romance Gale. I want to have her join him as a god in the epilogue, as a final "fuck you" to Vlaakith!
Ascension is like, the pure opposite of what every character truly wants. It's like the moral of the story at this point.
Lae'zel's ascension has her soul consumed. Even though everything she did was to escape that fate.
Shadowheart's ascension involves her forgetting everything and continuing to blindly follow. Even though she spends the whole story trying to discover herself.
Astarion's ascension turns him into the thing he hates the most. A power hungry sociopath.
Gale's ascension also turns him into the thing he hates the most. An uncaring and distant god, who only pays lipservice and nothing else.
Wyll's ascension is a lot simpler, which is basically him not getting his devil form. But to achieve it he has to kill the innocent. In opposition of everything he stands for.
And Karlach's ascension sees her dying to ceromorphosis. Even though her only goal was to live.
In the end what you think you want is not what you need. But in fact the opposite.
Perfect summary, I couldn't have said it better myself
Oh he doesn't like sugarcoating.
"She dead. How? She got eaten. You feel bad? Too bad"
lol
All the 'ascension' endings are so *sad* - your companions might think they're happy and getting what they wanted but ultimately they're all worse off... lost themselves, their souls, their humanity, which hurts even more when you've seen their best possible outcomes where they're happy and healthy and all around better off.
(I'm counting Durge's mad ending for this category as well - it *is* kind of an ascension to accept your murder daddy's ways _even though they're not a companion, of course_ )
It's been quite the hot topic, I would say the majority sees it that way, but there's a good amount of people also thinking the opposite (not for everyone, but you get it)
For those who don’t see it that way, I don’t know why, lol the game continuously hints that ascension, whether or Lae’zel or Astarion, is the the bad option. I mean, if you’re okay with that, that’s fine, but it’s clear neither of them are truly happy.
What about Gale? He seemed happy to be a god.
@@CountBifford He *is* but the point still stands: he loses his humanity, a lot of what made him 'Gale', even his most trusted (look at how Tara reacts)... and it's heavily implied that he will get worse - i.e. lose himself even more - over time.
Raphael's monologue about Gale's future is also a big *oof* to me.
@@CountBifford So does ascended Astarion - and yet
If you have a high enough bond with her and say "it's your choice Lae'zel" when she is contemplating if to ascend or not, she will decide to defect from Vlaakith to live as a free githyanki. You don't necessarily have to try to convince her (pass the charisma roll) to stay in Faerûn, she can change her mind at the last minute.
Indeed, I actually showed that in the video about it :p
You dont even need high approval i think i had medium approval the entire game with her coz i never took her out except to the creche, she will still choose to turn her back on vlaakith 😊
@@wolflithay6380 Interesting, didn't expect that.
I guess they'll make her Orpheus path the canon one then, cause you REALLY need to push her to stay with Vlaakith
Also true for most companions' decisions, excluding Astarion IIRC (who will always want to ascend, and needs to be persuaded not to)
Didn't work with me. She was loyal to her until the end, despite me trying to convince her.
No surprise there its pretty much spelled out in game that ascension basically means that the githyanki's soul will be consumed by vlaakith, can withers not give a straight answer just once almost feels like talking to a souls npc😂
Actually true lmao, souls npc
Hahaha he tell us that he can act directly in this world but he riddles us just to be a cool good guy
@@Nikometal999 😫
You don't know if you don't take the mountain pass.
This fate should be avoided at all costs.
Must*
Unfortunately, it wasn't for me.
Something the game never mentions: The Githyanki's goal is not to just destroy the mindflayers, but REPLACE them, recreate their empire with githyanki in their place.
The Githzerai's goal is the end the mindflayers and then step away and let the universe spin on.
This is why the rebel path is infinitely better. It causes Lae'zel to actually work WITH githzerai.
Source for that? Not that I don't believe
Githzerai may not be conquerers in quite the same way as thr Githyanki, bit the are very much about the imposition of will. Literally choosing to live innraw chaos and force it into order.
@@Saretz Try the old CRPG planescape torment it goes into a lot of detail about the Githerzai and Githyanki, Lots of really cool lore bits that make you appreciate both races a lot more in BG3.
*Loads Boo in Crossbow
"I'm comin' for you Vlaakith!"
AHAHHAha that made my day
What a brutal death!
For Vlaakith.
@@jetstreampaul5029 😂
haaaa ahahahaaha
Damn man, go with a nuke instead, waaaay less overkill.
The lich needs strong souls , lae'zel was one such but imo canonically she and voss are gonna take that arrogant b@%chs head and mount it on a pike , ik i would
Most definitely, this is not her canon ending in my head either XD
Gonna have to wait until baldur's gate 4 comes out to find the canonical fates of all the companions.
@@KratosisGodOr new official stories like DIA, after all, this is a canon d&d event now
I just found in my ending that she's making an alliance with a huge rogue githyanki faction and the entirety of the githzerai race, she wants to reunify, with Vlaakith's phylactery's destruction as the fireworks to kick it off
@@override367I got that one in store too, will come soon on the channel, along with another one, and her romances 😉
This game really soured the term 'ascension' for me 😅
It most certainly is very prevalent
'To be ascended is to be consumed'......
Maybe this isn't just about Lae'zel.
His words are mostly figurative, but he's quite intuitive when he's describing the integral part.
In the next playthrough, I must meet all my happy friends on the epilogue.
It's not ascension that strengthens me and my companions, it's a strong bond!
Yeah I don't think he's referring just to her
the real ascension was the friends we made along the way
«A pair of frog legs, eh?» lmao
Oui oui 🥲
My friends all ask me if im serious when i say i have mad respect for Lae’zel and shes my favourite companion and shes the most loyal. Thank you Withers for putting it words I couldn’t.
I’m also lucky i chose to be a wizard in my first play through and she was my tank 95% of the time. I never romanced her but she was a damn good friend.
Your friends don't know what they're missing on :p
I thought the fact that Vlaakith is a LICH Queen gave it away.
You never know! Until you do 😞
Horrific reveal of a companions fate, uplifting and cheerful background music intensifies.
XD
Well the reunion is a party after all
Withers: For many of the Gith, it can be measured: A single evening's supper for the Lich Queen. To be ascended is to be consumed.
Me: ...Alright. I'm gonna head out. *starts casting Plane Shift*
Withers: Where does thou think thine are going?
Me: Vlaakith tried to kill me and murdered Lae'zel for knowing the truth. I wasn't that close to her, but no way am I going to let that stand.
Withers: ..... (also while silently approving)
**cue BG3 DLC #1**
😂😂
You forgot to mention the cheerful flute music playing 😂
@@meeptasticable always the cheerful music
@@meeptasticable haha!
*quietly hefts my bow and nocks an arrow* have need of a swift and silent marksman friend? i respected Lae'zel's dedication to duty, and if that 'Queen' of hers devoured her like a sausage at breakfast, she'll find i have an arrow with her name on it
It would be a terrible fate if Jerg...I mean if Wither's can't sense one's presence.
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I choose to become a squid, then imprison myself because I was pretty sure I would turn nasty. There was no party for my Tav, Withers just came to visit me in prison and commend my sacrifice.
I feel like in order for all the companions to have the best possible outcome, the player character has to take all the tragedy on themselves.
That is true, I suppose, but also if I think about it I end up asking myself, why?
Assuming we're talking about Tav, Tav has no responsibility over any of the events in the game, you get dragged into it all as Tav, so why would they be the one to have to sacrifice?
Out of the good of your heart, sure, but you should also allowed to be selfish in that case.
Now, if we're talking Dark Urge, things are different...but I don't want to risk spoiling stuff to people reading.
@@Saretz I haven't played Durge yet, but I guess you're right about Tav. Everyone else has history and stuff going on, lives to reconnect with after the adventure is over.
Unless you put together an immersive backstory of your own Tav is mostly a blank slate who's existence only has meaning in the context of your friends and whoever you romanced. Even WITH the romance, I felt that Shadowheart could probably do better than a Mindflayer who's personality would most likely erode away in time.
As cynical as it is, Tav felt like the right person to sacrifice because... he had the least presence in the world. Maybe if you played as an Origin character it would be different.
@@CappyK Honestly I see the ending where you side with the Emperor (Or have Orpheus become illithid) and let Lae'zel fight in Orpheus's stead (Or with Illithid Orpheus, his powers might stabilize his squidy form) is probably the best. In six months Lae'zel accomplishes the same progress with or without Orpheus, she's a truly worthy heir and Vlaakith deserves to be taken down.
Sacrificing yourself, or Karlach just ain't worth it.
@@Saretz I suppose it depends what the player makes of Tav themself. I like to think of it this way: Tav and Durge are opposites. Tav is an ordinary person and Durge is the spawn of a god. Tav is a true “innocent” in the events going on and Durge is the cause of *all* the events. Altruism and empathy come easily to Tav, so the player has to go out of their way to make them do wrong, while cruelty and depravity come easily to Durge, and every interaction is a struggle for the player to fight the urge. To me, Tav offering to become a Mindflayer and then imprison themselves feels in keeping with their general selflessness, while with Durge, it’s penance
@@CappyK There are "better" options in terms of endings, if you take origin character. I know of at least one. SPOILER ALERT:
If you mindflayer yourself as Gale, and choose to bring crown to Mystra, she says she can recreate your soul and you can join her in god-plane. So, Gale is still dead, but he got possibly the best afterlife.
Now, I know that there are a lot of implications about Illithids and them having/lacking souls, but this is quite ambigious and there is some counteradicting information in the game itself (especially with the Epilogue), so I am not going to debate on this topic.
Idk that Baldur's Gate has eternal cycle of birth, but if they have, then I think Lae'zel's soul is completely consumed by Vlaakith and she will never rebirth into the world I guess. Her soul is completely gone, maybe that's why Withers can't feel her anymore.
:(
Forgotten Realms has no reincarnation system as far as I can remember, only that souls go to their respective "afterlife" planes based on their faith/god. A person with no soul has no soul to go to an afterlife, so...
They have outer planes they go to when they die. Lae'zel didn't because she no longer exists.
@@jfast8256 🥲
Voss was the first to warn Lae'zel the fate of the ascended.
😞
Imagin a DLC where you actually confront vlaakith based on your playthrough, like if you sided with orpheus you can actually wage war against vlaakith, and if you sided with vlaakith you can try to free laezel from her grasp
Imagine... 😭
Would probably be an entirely new campaign seeing how you'd effectively have to crusade against all Githianki, which can muster a formidable army from the astral plane.
In fact, this would probably be worthy of an entire Baldur's Gate 4, with Vlaakith and the Gith as the main antagonists.
Because Vlaakith is ambitious enough and the Githianki have little regard for the lives of other races, so subjugating them or conquering their own realm on the material plane would well be possible for them if they feel empowered enough to do so.
yeah hoping they can do dlc for both Lae zel and karlach i want to see what hell looks like in dnd.
@@supernieva2419fingers crossed 😭🤞🏻 If Lae'zel DLC sounds too ambitious for them as DLC and not a game, then they should give us Karlach DLC 🤧
@@axelhopfinger533 with the amount of content and stories left open, they could make a few more games xD.
What if God Gale turned out bad ~
We need a githyanki expansion where depending of our choices we either go to war against Vlaakith or we go save Lae’zel or we join Vlaakith
I have lost count of how many people want that
New Mission: Kill Vlaakith
🫡
I’m surprised that this was a surprise at all to so many players. I guess most BG3 players didn’t know who Vlaakith was.
I think it's not really about the surprise, but the confirmation of what happened, which in turn kills hope :c
lol this games a foreign language. i can barely understand some of the dialogue in this game. like they used a thesaurus and swapped out every other word for less commonly used and archaic words. tbh i didnt think gods were real in BG, just like they arent real here on planet earth. THEN THIS BIG ASS GIANT WOMAN SHOWS UP SCREAMING AT ME for whatever reason and im like, oh ok i guess goids are real around here maybe i shouldnt have said 'god damnit' so much! theres gods everywhere in BG. i meet them without even trying, im just trying to bang karlach cripes get off my nuts.
"what do you mean gone?"
"gone"
gone 😢
"a pair of frog legs" 🤣
That killed me when I saw it
"Vlaakith transformed her into a soup and that's all she ever wanted, be happy for soup Bae'zel" is not disturbing at all.
😂😭
Perhaps a dlc where we can find laezel and see whats happening/happened to her? Another dlc to help spawn astarion be able to be in the sun again 😊? Possibilities
Infinite possibilities, but we have to stay grounded unfortunately, it will be really hard to see any at all 🥹
Voss spells out that Vlaakith eats the ascended at one point
He does..
@Saretz I mean, it isn't lore that BG3 establishes either, but sticking to sources in the game it is when its first mentioned.
@@sephy26946 Oh yeah I know, it's just that some of the new epilogues (I don't know if you've seen my latest two videos for example) added quite a bunch of questions to the game/lore in general xD
I didn't know you could make Morbius in bg3, but there he is, budget Morbius talking to Withers!
ayo!
Sooo her soul was fed to vlaakiths phylactery and destroyed… cool. No wonder withers can’t sense her.
:(((
I think all their connon ending is if you fully do their quests and let them pick what happens. Tho I don’t mind the non connon version of gale using the crown to enter divinity
Then this is definitely not a canon ending :p
@@Saretzit’s funny with Tara there. Who she is talking smack about professor Gale’s students.
Even then, letting them decide for themselves does not always result in the same outcome.
As an example: When allowed to choose for herself, Shadowheart can either embrace or reject Shar, depending on your in game choices (morality-wise) and your approval with her.
"Canon", and they choose based on how you interact with them before the decision
@@somerandominternetdwellerI don't have professor Gale available in my runs :(
I will be posting the other two I've gotten though 👀
The upbeat music in the background makes this entire conversation unintentionally hilarious.
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This is why I have nevee chosen to ascend Lae'zel. Her fate is worse than death. To have one's soul be drained over time and become a husk of a person you once were, that is a fate worse than death. For you to forget yourself, the happiness that you once had, and the memories of everything you have done; ceases to exist.
I know some people chose this option because they hate Lae'zel. Or maybe they don't know what 'true ascension' is for the Githyanki.
I have a friend who would rather see her die to the hands of Orin if taken or to ascend. I refuse them of any options in my game that decide Lae'zel's fate.
And that's why you have me here, sacrificing myself so that you can see what happens in the worst cases too 🥺
@@Saretz Which I am actually thankful for. I knew I wouldn't be ascending Lae'zel. Especially after what Voss tells you. I knew right then and there I wasn't going to ascend her. Hell to the no
@@ZiggyKhaos Amen
Anyone else upset we didn't get to kill Vlakith?
:c
Vlaakith is a lich. She needs souls to sustain and grow her power. Hence, 'ascensions'. And after their souls are consumed, Vlaakith gets another undead servant from their corpse.
Kinda weird to me that it's an in-universe surprise to anyone that she eats her own people. It's well-known that she is a lich. Everyone knows what liches do. And the most readily available beings with souls to her are other Githyanki...
“A pair of fried frog legs, eh?”😂😭
🥲
This is exactly what happened😅
@@intreal please :( :(
I wonder what the epilogue is like if you ascend while playing her as origin
I'll get to that too, eventually ^^
If you romanced Lae'zel and guided her to discover the truth about her queen and people, it truly delivers one of the best character developments I've ever witnessed. Throughout my playthrough, she consistently retained her toughness, yet there was a subtle softening that added depth to her character. If you get what I mean.
Yep, well aware of that
He is just saying that is what she wanted for her life, even if it was a lie and perhaps foolish.
As a god, seeing all ambitions since the beginning of time, he is not one to judge, he saw she was happy, content, and resolute through her whole life.
So in truly humble fashion, who is he to judge her for her finding it honourable to be consumed, it's her life.
@@AlexisTheDragon I like to believe that
My ending with Laezel was bittersweet since I sided with the Emperor. Sorry Laezel but I just don't care about Orpheus. At least she wasn't consumed in my ending! Fighting Vlakith without Orpheus.
🥺
Man, I was kinda upset when I heard him say that. Not that I really cared about Lae'zel that much, but I still got kind of attached to her throughout the game. So learning that this was her fate was sad.
🥲 I know..
in my ending, she was in the middle of fighting the rebellion against Vlaakith and joined the camp using astral projection. I loved this ending for her.
I literally laughed out loud at how you wiggled your cursor over the "pair of frog legs" option because SAME LOL WTF.
😂😂😂😭
That’s why in my play through she stayed in faerun became my baby mama
None of that fake ass ascension shiet
It's for the better, probably
I am confident the Lich Bitch consumed Lae'zel and should this ending ever happen we're going Wannabe God Hunting
Not even a question
@@Saretz As a Barbarian Main I'm gonna get Reckless! LOL
@@KollbjornYT I see what you did there
@@Saretz Why thank you, sir
@@KollbjornYT **Tips hat**
50,000? PAH! Killed that many in act 1
o_o
Well she is a lich queen what did you expect she got to eat souls some how and if the are offering them selves up to her as a snacks 🥨 well 😉 that's on them... 😂 Okay it messes up and you should stop her for becoming snack 🥨 for lich queen but hey if your evil lay through and wish to kill all companions with out killing them then this is it!
:(
@@Saretz don't be sad be evil try a run where you get your party killed via plot line... See if you can do it see if you can beat the game... It harder then it sounds
@@havilar3095 I already did one evil run, it felt I dirtied my soul
@@Saretz I know what you mean! Doing one where you try and kill the party though story moments it even harder. Makes you file so so... Idk hard to say... And then with out the party. I could not beat the game
The funniest part is ascension in other stories are almost always a level up. In anime it’s notorious for being a final form of some sort.
Give me examples!
Now I want to see how this plays out if the PC is a Githyanki cleric of Vlaakith and gets hear Jergal lay out the truth of their "goddess" for 'em.
I'm pretty sure my next run I'll be a Githyanki just to check that
there arent even any cleric of vlaakith specific dialogues in the creche as far as im aware
"strongest warrior" huh. guess he's not team Karlach.
That being said, yeah, of course Withers/Jergal would know all about Vlaaketh. she's dangerously ambitious and is literally camping out on the bones of a dead god. the Dieties of faerun have learned the hard way that it's VERY unwise to ignore ambitious mortals. Karthus taught them that if nothing else did. oh, and I think Vecna is at least partially canon to Faerun still as well.
Over in Pathfinder, they actually have Achaekek (pronounced uh-CHAY-kek)
the mantis god...patron of the Red mantis cult of assassins. his sole purpose is to kill people like Karthus of Vlaaketh . the dieties of Golarion, not being TOTAL idiots, made VERY sure he couldn't kill ACTUAL gods...so he targets demigods and would-be usurpers. Even then, some mortals make it to apotheosis. The red mantis cult is a group of assassins that will kill anyone if the money is right...except a lawfully invested King, out of respect for thier patron's limitation. (they have been known to supply other would-be assassins interested in regicide though...Curse of the Crimson Throne adventure path touches on this)
Finally someone bringing me some Pathfinder lore too
I mean, Withers would know. He is basically an avatar for Jergal, after all.
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@@Saretz obvious comment is obvious 😂 sorry!
@@babiifrshj07 it's fine xD
there needs to be a kill Vlaakith dlc
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I mean, what happens to those in death is his domain IYKYK spoilers below:
It is highly implied that withers is Jergal, the original god of the dead who gave up his mantle so he could focus on record keeping essentially. He would know her fate even if her soul didn't wind up in a god's domain or being judged by Kelemvor.
I've done good play-throughs, I've done evil play-throughs, but I will always free Orpheus, because I hate the Emperor and Vlaakith
Same, without the hate part xD (except some for Vlaakith)
Unless playing a bad PC, I wouldn't have Lae'zel continue to support a Lich. So such an ending for a Lae'zel who did so is no surprise.
I did it on a bad PC, and I still felt awful
FRIED FROG LEGS ☠️
😞
I love the quick little highlight of the frog legs choice before picking one of the others. XD
It wasn't even intentional, I was genuinely laughing while shaking on it 😂
If Withers, given who he REALLY was and who he currently is, and still retained some of his powers, can't sense her anywhere - that's sounds bad. very bad.
That's the dreadful implication here 🫠
*A pair of fried frog legs* How come we never get to cook Lae'zel? 🐸
Who says we can't...wait a minute nevermind
I only came here to comment on the horrible auto-translated video title. "The Mane reveals Lae'zels destiny after faring to Heaven". Thanks UA-cam... for still forcing that dumb sh*t on viewers without the option of turning it off. 🤤
If I may ask, what's your language? I may yet be able to manually correct it
@Saretz Danish. It's Google's mistake, not yours, though... so no hard feelings directed at you. 👍
@@Demothios Oh it's fine don't worry, I just want to fix it for future viewers :p, I assume Withers is "The Mane"?
"Manken afslører Lae'zels skæbne efter himmelfart - Baldur's Gate 3"
If you could provide me with the corrected version of that I'll edit it right away
And this is why I'm happy to have Lae'Zel turn against Vlaakith. Lae'Zel will not be consumed by Vlaakith so the undead queen can become more powerful/get closer to Godhood.
Amen
I wanted to keep Orpheus alive, non-illithid and all. But I realized maybe helping conqueror racist space elves isn't really a good idea. Laezel gets to continue the fight though.
Just wasn't worth sacrificing the dragonborn rizz.
@@raphezar2049 Orpheus really isn't like that though, depending on dialogue choices, if he isn't illithid, during the dock sequence he will tell you how his people have only known fighting and whatnot because of Vlaakith, and that he intends to change it all after his war with her is over
Of course he knows, he's Jergal.
Lord of the End of Everything, The Pitiless One, The Forgotten One,
The very Grim Reaper, himself.
To be fair though, while it's 99% confirmed that he is, the game never explicitly affirms it, so you never know 👀
@@Saretz I mean I get what you're saying, but from everything we know he's absolutely either Jergal himself, or his Avatar. There's really no two ways about it.
One reason they shy away from answering the question fully is probably just beacuse Jergal more-or-less abdicated his position, and decided to live out eternity as a scribe of the dead instead of Death's primary god. A "watcher" instead of a "doer".
Which, to be real, makes it even more likely he knows exactly what happened to "Ascended" Lae'zel. If she was anywhere still on the "Tapestry of Life" he would know about it.
@@JeoshuaCollins Absolutely, I do not doubt it, initially I even assumed he was the respective "chosen of", but it's far less likely
Her soul got consumes by vlaakith. Since she is a lich she does this to anyone getting stronger than her.
99.99%
By 3.5 lore, anyone around level 14.
Not even close to 'stronger than her' but I guess she doesn't want 8th level spells used against her.