Dude I appreciate you making these connections and keeping the digi-destined flame going here in the us it gained a solid fan base but was quickly washed out by pokemon. Don't get wrong I enjoyed pokemon but digimon was a show I was pissed about missing any new episodes on those beautiful Saturday mornings in the late 90s. Im truly interested in knowing wether there was more of push for you over the pond in this context( It should be blatantly obvious considering digimon seems to make up the majority of your content but I don't prefer to just make assumptions based in just visuals alone) I'm so happy to see it's still going 20 years after my introduction. I knew they had done specials but had no idea that we were blessed with this complete reboot. Last thing I've got to say in this comment is I admire your collection atleast the items I'm seeing within frame, would it be possible for you to post a complete view of what you've collected? I lost a majority of my collection for several beloved animes because of family complications and events of that sort so seeing yours intact warms the soul of my inner child 🤷🏼♂️
Tekken and digimon existing in the same canon would explain a lot about masaru daimon and his fathers ability to rearrange digimons faces. If the stuff that people do in fighting games is possible in the digimon canon then human on digimon slap fights using digisoul infused fists isn't so far fetched.
I'd be thrilled if they made English versions. The only one that currently exists to my knowledge is Anode/Cathode Tamer: Veedramon Version which, IIRC, was made by Bandai Asia rather than Bandai America and had a translation that obviously reflected it being made by non-native speakers.
honestly that connection between Vdramon n Greymon really does makes a whole lotta sense and i'm super glad to have met more people that read the manga cuz goodness it was such a feels good manga I legit had a great time readin it MagnaAngemon's robe design there was just, really friggin cool, actually was it the manga where there was a weird parasite like Digimon that had the same name from fresh to mega or another? Honestly one of the scariest villains by far in Digimon for me
V-tamer is best digimon manga. Veedramon is best digi boi. Exveemon is diet veedramon. Daisuke is diet taichi Tagiru is diet daisuke but we dont talk about that thing. Gumdramon is cool tho. Chill dude. Does charity on weekends and helps his gran when she needs it. Be like gumdramon.
Yes thats all v-tamer. The evil digimon you are thinking of is arcadiamon and hes one of the strongest evil digimon and along with lucemon, armegeddemon and a couple others. Hes one of the few evil digimon that are close in power to milleniumon, the strongest evil digimon ever or at least he is until we find out if the eyeball thing is a digimon or not. If it is a digimon then the wiki will have to update that a bit because it seems way stronger than milleniumon.
The thing with Knightmon and the crest of hope seems to be an allusion to the catholic crusades and such. Since hope is attached to a literal angel digimon its probably seen like a cross and was used similarly. The other obvious Catholic connection Knightmon has is its evolution is Crusadermon literally named after the Crusades lol, also Crusadermon usually being depicted as a woman or feminine presenting could be an allusion to Jean D'arc but that could be pushing it lol.
Yeah I mean there's definitely a lot of that real world connection that makes sense it's just really bizarre it's NEVER been mentioned even out of canon by any official sources or why it disappears from the rest of the evolution line
The original anime debut of Crusadermon in Digimon Frontier is the only time we saw the female version. She was super ready to woop ass and looked cool as hell. She felt like proper Royal Knight with Dynasmon as her comrade. Not sure why her version wasn't made the template for later iterations.
We do know that Knightmon have served several different lords, so some working under MagnaAngemon/HolyAngemon during the Wars is very likely. Also, there actually _is_ a D'Arcmon in the Frontier Movie - despite it being one of the disguises of the Villain Murmuxmon, it was based upon an existing Digimon Species. Crusadermon is another Digimon with direct command over dozens to hundreds of Knightmon. Even its Japanese Name is directly translated from Romanji to 'RhodoKnightmon' (Prefix Entomology based on the Pink-hued Mineral called Rhodonite), though the name is often incorrectly converted to 'LoadKnightmon' (which makes absolutely no sense) or 'LordKnightmon', where Translators tend to apply the Androgynous Knight trope to portray with a Male Voice...
To go along with the Kamen Rider reference in Stingmon, I also add that Ken becoming a police officer in the 02 epilogue is a reference to Makoto from Kamen Rider Agito.
I don’t think I’d want the Ryo movie over the one we got, but god I’d watch the heck out of a Ryo movie. Seeing how Cyberdramon worked in tamers, becoming more violent and dangerous as an ultimate and being more pure and good when it was weaker, taking less influence from Milleniumon, as well as more controlled when Ryo’s influence was there as Justimon... just seeing a movie about their dynamic in general would be banging.
Yeah I agree! I don't hate Hurricane Touchdown or Wallace/Willis at all but the potential of a Ryo Summer movie with the 02 cast is just... so good to me
@@Karn_EX Tamers just wouldn't be the same without the popularity of terriermon and lopmon that came from the movie. I think they are in tamers along with ryo as kind of an homage to willis and his partners being homage to ryo and his partners in hurricane touchdown. Basically a homage to a homage. Digimon do be deep like that sometimes. lol
Thinking about it, how much better would Tri have been if they had used Ryo instead of Meiko! Her story was already a recycle of Willis’s story! It would have made so much more sense to have ZeedMillenniummon being the danger threatening both worlds than Ordinemon, and much better looking visually (I always hated how Ordinemon looked… how does an orange cat and a turquoise angel make a gray blob?!)
@@Karn_EX it's so weird tho, cause Ryo IS from adventure, or atleast the wonderswan games, than to adventure, than to tamers Kinda wanna know where he went after that
It would have been incredible to to have a film about Ryo. It would be sad to never have Willis though. Ryo should have gotten the film and Willis should have just been in 02 🤔
Willis being in 02 anime would have been cool although I think Ryo should have gotten a movie either for a teaser for tamers or about his introduction into the digimon universe.
Unfortunately, Ryo's appearance in 02 was there because the Dark Spores story angle was built from the Brave Tamer games' plot line, where you can control Ryo Akiyama _or_ *Ken Ichijyoji!* Ryo's involvement in Ken's Dream Sequence was an essential aspect to explain the source of the Dark Spores, and its connection to the story of the Handheld Game series...
Willis being moved from movie to show would have been bad. They have to many characters as it is. Willis lopmon and terriermon would have added to the problem
I only know this because I literally JUST finished reading V-Tamer like two days ago, but Knightmon did very briefly appear as part of Angemon’s army during Neo’s siege. I don’t blame you for forgetting/not noticing as they were not very prominent, but I thought I’d throw it out there. Also, thanks for acknowledging Appmon. I just finished that a few weeks ago and actually really liked it, and finding out that it seems largely forgotten or actively ignored was kind of sad to me. I get the sense some Digimon fans try to pretend it never happened, and I think that’s a shame.
12:12 - I'm pretty sure in the original sub Kokomon turned into a Wendigomon because of being lonely for a very long time after getting separated from Wallace, not from the virus.
@@Karn_EX I'm not sure where you got that information from, but as someone who recently watched the original version of the movie, I can assure you there was no mention of the virus at all. In fact, if you don't mind the angry commentary, go check out Digimon Uncensored. It's a website that compares the differences between the Japanese and English dubs, and the entry for this film stated multiple times that whole plot with the rogue virus just didn't exist in the first place.
I always liked how the Digimon franchise sort of established parallel universes in the series, like separate servers on the web connected by Digimon itself. Like how Tamers view of 01+02 is a show when we all know through Ryo, those events actually happened. You can even theorize that the current Reboot series isn't that, but just another parallel dimension/timeline to the original 01. Itd be neat if they alluded to that by the end but we shall see
I'd always heard that Patamon was originally going to evolve into Knightmon before they settled on the angel theme. The Crest of Hope on Knightmon could be an artifact of that if it's true. Ryo would have been awesome for the 02 movie but I could just imagine how most non-Japanese fans would have gotten confused when he showed up in Tamers since not a lot of people know the plot of the Wonderswan games. Especially since even without that a lot of fans didn't _quite_ grasp that Tamers was in a different universe than Adventure/02.
I think the dub is partially to blame for western fans thinking Tamers was connected to 01/02. I also thought more people knew about the WS games since there are lots of gameplays and discussion about them on the internet, or has been for a while.
@@aikou2886 incoming tldr. im pretty sure they are connected in the sub as well as in the original wonderswan games. The first game involved ryo akiyama being taken from the tamers timeline where he is originally from to the adventure timelines digital world and gathering an army of digimon to help save the original digidestined who have been taken by Milleniumon. Its also a sequel to digimon adventure taking place before 02 in a alternative bad end timeline that ryo fixed by defeating milleniumon there and no longer exists. Milleniumon is a damn timelord and killing him and restoring timelines he broke doesn't stop him from returning. The second game is the direct prequel to 02 taking place in the now fixed adventure timeline and goes far more in depth into ken ichijojis past and why he became digimon emperor and even why he created kimeramon in 02. Milleniumon is the one who created the dark seeds and infected him in the second game with one and most likely was using ken to try and resurrect himself in 02. Milleniumon and ryo are even in a flashback scene ken has when remembering his first visit to the digital world with his now deceased brother. The machinedramon that fused with kimeramon is actually the one from the dark masters as well. Tamers is very linked with adventure and adventure 02 and even breaks 02 as a story in some ways without ryo.
The dub actually removed much of that exposition and made it seem less linked not more which is another reason to throw into the massive pile of reasons we need a 02 reboot pronto after the current one ends. I freaking swear if 02 gets shafted yet again im going to go baby rage mode over it. Mark my words i will be crying, kicking and screaming for at least an hour before tuckering myself out and falling asleep with my thumb in my mouth if they skip over it to do a tamers reboot or adventure reboot tri next. Wonderswan digimon game anime works too as long as we get 02 reboot later on. V-tamer anime gets a pass free pass from me because veedramon is my boi and i cant be mad at my boi.
@@Coomamon_Memes Ryo is connected to everything else, yes. However, the first two seasons are not connected to Tamers unless you want to use Ryo as a loose connection in between them (not only be ause of the WS games but also because of him dimension hopping in the anime. If I'm not wrong he appears in the Diaboromon movie as a cameo. He does appear on Ken's flashbacks in 02 but this is more of a reference to the games so I have no idea what to make of it). But then again even if you can connect them through Ryo there's the fact that not only both plots are completely unrelated (Adventure/02 and Tamers) but also it's stated that Digimon is just a franchize in the tamers universe so even if the events of the first two series somehow took place on Tamers that was just a TV show (for them).
@@aikou2886 ryo is actually from the tamers timeline and his family lives there as well which does make for a strong connection because he is born in one timeline but had most of his adventures in the other. He even mentions finding his own way to his parents house when others offered to take him home at the end of tamers. He is a linked to both canons and is as much a part of both as mirei mikagura is to many of the digimon video game timelines and wizardmon is to witchelny and the digital world. Also as i said before, 02 doesn't work as a story without him and him not being a part of things there would create huge plot holes in the story. You cant say he isn't important to a story that needs him to be in it for the plot to make sense.
@@Karn_EX I also remember enjoying the first time I had acquired the vaccine-type Cherubimon when first playing through DSCSHM like a few years ago which totally had myself thinking about how much I loved the OST coming from The Digimon Movie like 20 years ago which kind of began my love for hearing songs by bands like Barenaked Ladies + Less Than Jake so yeah ✌️😎
oh yeah! Also awesome video as always! Loving the edits especially the mind blown one! ^^ Keep up the great work bringin in content for us hungry Digimon fans haha
I think the knight mon connection is basically signifying that knights (or paladins for the sake of connection) are holy warriors or warriors who bring hope
The idea of Ryo in Adventures 02 movie would’ve been kool plus I think the events of that movie happens after they defeat Kimeramon and the Digimon Emperor out of Ken because it didn’t seem like Veemon Golden Armor Digivolving to Magnamon was anything new plus that movie could show that Kimeramon return to stumble into Machinedramon’s lost DNA and merge to become Millenniummon maybe Magnamon gets X Antibody to fight this newer powerful Jogress of Kimeramon keeping the rivalry going with Magnamon X vs Millenniummon. The thing is that Ryo seems a lot more headstrong and a gifted skilled Tamer over Willis and almost every other Tamer including 90% of the Digidestines with that small 10% being your Tai’s, Matts, Davis’s, Ken’s, Takato’s, Marcus’s you know the leader characters on Ryo’s level, Willis seems like just any other Tamer nothing wrong with that. Eitherway I still loved that movie with Willis and Wendigomon that serves as a dark Digivolution for Lopmon plus Dark Virus Cherubimon is AMAZING and the plot of that Virus coming from Diaboromon after being terminated by Omnimon thus intertwining both movies!!
Copipemon is actually the original version. By the time Copymon became a Digimon it was already 2018, so Appmon had already come and gone. I'm not sure when the Copy Function was introduced but the earliest I've heard of it was in 2017's Digital Monster ver. 20th, so Copipemon probably predates that too.
I have a idea for a videos. Connections between two Digimon species like Ajattaramon using Paraurmon's skull as a shield, Zudomon's shell or Tailmon's gloves. I think that would be a interesting topic to cover.
Going off your Bandai crossover idea, I saw Yuri from ToV in that pic and I was like "that could be interesting". Have Apocalymon be the Adephagos. At the last minute when Yuri and the others can't beat him, the DigiDestined swoop in and defend them as they try doing what they did at the end of Season 1. At the end of the fight, have each of the team on both sides converse with their respective counterpart (Yuri and Tai, Matt and Flynn etc) to help each other in their future goals being set
I've never been able to read the digimon manga it's odd to me that he has two different digimon from the manga and anime it's pretty cool. And yeah it has been horrible with heat here in Mississippi united states also. Keep up the great content.
I love the kamen rider connection bc im more familiar with digimon and only eventually going in toku stuff, after i stopped watching digimon Realizing the connection is just, so neat
I just realise that Digimon and Pokémon fandom rivalry actually kinda resemble Kamen Rider and Ultraman, with so many Digimon that have Kamen Rider references and Pokémon that have Kaijuu or even Ultraman themselves as references, this is interesting because Ishinomori with TOEI and Tsuburaya Production are kind of rivals in producing Toku in their era
This may sound corny but I wonder if knightmon was originally going to be an armor evolution for patamon or an evolution for seraphimon. Seeing as how MangnAangemon doesn't have a lot of armor or metal on him and the transition to seraphimon could be odd or maybe patamon's armor evolution was going to be knightmon with the "knight and Shining armor" but then changed to Pegasusmon to fit alongside with Nefertimon.
Knightmon came out well before 02 though, right? Though I guess it's still possible. (Fun fact: GoldKnightmon was my fan-made Patamon + DM of Fate evolution because, come on, why Rhinomon again?) There were other examples of things like this. Rosemon, Babamon, and Sephirotmon all had the crest of light/Tifaret. It feels like there were more, but were there?
That Ryo part was very interesting. I noticed they do have slight similarities in their designs. same hair different color. As well as some of the stuff you mentioned. Also was that pic of the fourze poster behind Taiki the one I posted to twitter? thats pretty rad.
Always wondered something. Since Davis and Wallace used golden digimentals, and later we find out a green Rapidmon is Terriermon's default ultimate could an alt colored Magnamon be an ultimate for XVeemon?
Actually if we put rhinomon on armadillomon get rid of elephantmon and to make peacock on gold all we would need to do is find a proper one for Patamon.
The link between weregarurumon and metalgreymon and their x anti body forms makes me think of a theory that the reboot is a parallel universe (hence the difference between which year the events of adventure taking place and the technology the chosen children have) in that the new server that yggdrasil set up has to have some similar events occur (to bring certain requirements thats understandable by yggdrasil) but changes aspects of them so another project ark isnt required. If yggdrasil can create a new server whos to say it cant link to another universe all together (might also explain other continuities like the games & manga).
Ryo's story really needs to be retold, the wonderswan games were too long ago plus only some of them were ever translated into English. I was hoping they were gonna dive into Ryo's story in Adventure Tri, when Gennai showed up (considering the most popular theory is that Ryo is actually a younger Gennai)
I would lile to see jogress of Veedramon and greymon. Like stingmon and exveemon, but just an ultimate awesome dinosaur. I know they are somewhat too similar, but that's the point.
It's definitely a plausible connection but technically SlashAngemon isn't really a "Crest of Hope" evo either as the Crest of Hope is very much tied to Takeru though Slash does now appear in the 2020 anime kind of so there's more of a connection than there used to be!
@@Karn_EX Knightmon is also a possible evo for Patamon's evolution tree just as SlashAngemon. Other evolutions for knightmon are Rhodonitemon and Craniamon; 2 of the Royal Knights. The crests showing up on knightmon shield is most likely just a design aesthetic, like how in real life the ancient Greeks used Medusa on their shields or the ancient English would use a cockatrice or basilisk on theirs. It would be used to intimidate, as well as to ward off enemies. For instance, the digital hazard sign appears on Dukemon but Dukemon is a vaccine type. Understanding that it is apart of the Guilmon line but the same cannot be said about ChaosDukemon who is a virus type loses the digital Hazard both on the armor and on its shield named Gorgon
The Pegasus constellation is still called Pegasus. Monoceros is the Unicorn constellation and Equuleus is the Little Horse constellation (which is located near Pegasus).
I'm actually fairly certain Justimons is a reference to Kamen Rider Super-1. The colors are the same, and the swappable arms seems to reference the Five Hands
Is it possible to cover the history on who were the original digidestined prior to Tai and his friends? Like some say Ryu is the lost child to the world and forever stuck. Like was he part of that first group? Matt's dad in 01 mentioned that he had a Gabumon like his but it had a different evolution. But that topic was dropped like an egg. I wonder why? All we got was 2 original destined in the Tri series. That's all.
It's the same creature but with more data! So at its core and all its memories are the same but its emotions or attitude may change with the Digivolution
Did something happen with the Toku fandom that made you leave? I might be reading into it but it sounded like you had a bad experience from how you said it.
Since Bandai seems so trigger-happy with their guest characters in Tekken recently, they really should make a Digimon into a guest fighter in a future game. They already missed the opportunity to put one in Pokkén
This has nothing to do with the video but i want to know "if you were a member of some kind of dark not evil but dark digi destin what would your partner be?" Mine impmon
Veedramon in V-Tamer wasn't shown to Digivolve from Agumon, it's only theorized. But C'Mon Digimon Greymon going on to become the design for Zeromaru/Veedramon happened before we had an example of Agumon becoming Veedramon.
The one you said is Birth could also be a Metal Hero. Just curious, what made you stop watching Toku? Just not enough time, or was there something more about it? Because the small UK Toku fandom is actually pretty stable at the moment.
You sound so sad when you talk about your past life as a Tokusatsu youtuber :'( I always wondered about that because I see a bunch of those videos from you in my recs
It's only now I realise that "Copipemon" is pronounce "Kopy-peh-mon" as in Copy and Paste. Heatwave melted my brain xoxo
It literally has C and P on its palms too lol
They pushed it back survive
I didn't realize that myself. @.@. I guess I did just wake up but still.
Dude I appreciate you making these connections and keeping the digi-destined flame going here in the us it gained a solid fan base but was quickly washed out by pokemon. Don't get wrong I enjoyed pokemon but digimon was a show I was pissed about missing any new episodes on those beautiful Saturday mornings in the late 90s. Im truly interested in knowing wether there was more of push for you over the pond in this context( It should be blatantly obvious considering digimon seems to make up the majority of your content but I don't prefer to just make assumptions based in just visuals alone) I'm so happy to see it's still going 20 years after my introduction. I knew they had done specials but had no idea that we were blessed with this complete reboot. Last thing I've got to say in this comment is I admire your collection atleast the items I'm seeing within frame, would it be possible for you to post a complete view of what you've collected? I lost a majority of my collection for several beloved animes because of family complications and events of that sort so seeing yours intact warms the soul of my inner child 🤷🏼♂️
Some baby Digimon have up to 5 different lines. For knightmon it’s a 3rd rarity evolution from the baby stage.
Tekken and digimon existing in the same canon would explain a lot about masaru daimon and his fathers ability to rearrange digimons faces.
If the stuff that people do in fighting games is possible in the digimon canon then human on digimon slap fights using digisoul infused fists isn't so far fetched.
I really wish that they remake the wonderswan games. Its such a good opportunity to help people re-discover old lore and make new connections
Big agree!
At the very least, give us a “Anode/Cathode: Back Cover,” like Kingdom Hearts did
I'd be thrilled if they made English versions. The only one that currently exists to my knowledge is Anode/Cathode Tamer: Veedramon Version which, IIRC, was made by Bandai Asia rather than Bandai America and had a translation that obviously reflected it being made by non-native speakers.
I just want Digimon battle spirit 1.5
honestly that connection between Vdramon n Greymon really does makes a whole lotta sense and i'm super glad to have met more people that read the manga cuz goodness it was such a feels good manga I legit had a great time readin it
MagnaAngemon's robe design there was just, really friggin cool, actually was it the manga where there was a weird parasite like Digimon that had the same name from fresh to mega or another? Honestly one of the scariest villains by far in Digimon for me
V-tamer is best digimon manga.
Veedramon is best digi boi.
Exveemon is diet veedramon.
Daisuke is diet taichi
Tagiru is diet daisuke but we dont talk about that thing.
Gumdramon is cool tho.
Chill dude. Does charity on weekends and helps his gran when she needs it.
Be like gumdramon.
Yes thats all v-tamer. The evil digimon you are thinking of is arcadiamon and hes one of the strongest evil digimon and along with lucemon, armegeddemon and a couple others. Hes one of the few evil digimon that are close in power to milleniumon, the strongest evil digimon ever or at least he is until we find out if the eyeball thing is a digimon or not.
If it is a digimon then the wiki will have to update that a bit because it seems way stronger than milleniumon.
The thing with Knightmon and the crest of hope seems to be an allusion to the catholic crusades and such. Since hope is attached to a literal angel digimon its probably seen like a cross and was used similarly. The other obvious Catholic connection Knightmon has is its evolution is Crusadermon literally named after the Crusades lol, also Crusadermon usually being depicted as a woman or feminine presenting could be an allusion to Jean D'arc but that could be pushing it lol.
Yeah I mean there's definitely a lot of that real world connection that makes sense it's just really bizarre it's NEVER been mentioned even out of canon by any official sources or why it disappears from the rest of the evolution line
The original anime debut of Crusadermon in Digimon Frontier is the only time we saw the female version. She was super ready to woop ass and looked cool as hell. She felt like proper Royal Knight with Dynasmon as her comrade. Not sure why her version wasn't made the template for later iterations.
@@edwinpritom6336 Crusadermon is also a woman in Digimon cyber sleuth
We do know that Knightmon have served several different lords, so some working under MagnaAngemon/HolyAngemon during the Wars is very likely. Also, there actually _is_ a D'Arcmon in the Frontier Movie - despite it being one of the disguises of the Villain Murmuxmon, it was based upon an existing Digimon Species.
Crusadermon is another Digimon with direct command over dozens to hundreds of Knightmon. Even its Japanese Name is directly translated from Romanji to 'RhodoKnightmon' (Prefix Entomology based on the Pink-hued Mineral called Rhodonite), though the name is often incorrectly converted to 'LoadKnightmon' (which makes absolutely no sense) or 'LordKnightmon', where Translators tend to apply the Androgynous Knight trope to portray with a Male Voice...
@@KNXCKLE You can say Alphamon was also a woman in CyberSleuth. The digimon was not female though in the game, just the avatar.
To go along with the Kamen Rider reference in Stingmon, I also add that Ken becoming a police officer in the 02 epilogue is a reference to Makoto from Kamen Rider Agito.
Or even Ichijou from Kuuga!
I believe Omnimon/Omegamon Merciful Mode from tri is also based on Rider and Kikaider as said in interviews with Kenji Watanabe.
The way you described your movie ideas made me think of the Battle Spirit games.
after hearing about Ryo and Willis I just want to see the Jogress between Cyberdramon and Rapidmon or Justimon and Megagargomon
I recently got my daughter a 20th digivice toy. She LOVES it. So glad my kiddo loves digimon too!
I don’t think I’d want the Ryo movie over the one we got, but god I’d watch the heck out of a Ryo movie. Seeing how Cyberdramon worked in tamers, becoming more violent and dangerous as an ultimate and being more pure and good when it was weaker, taking less influence from Milleniumon, as well as more controlled when Ryo’s influence was there as Justimon... just seeing a movie about their dynamic in general would be banging.
Yeah I agree! I don't hate Hurricane Touchdown or Wallace/Willis at all but the potential of a Ryo Summer movie with the 02 cast is just... so good to me
@@Karn_EX Tamers just wouldn't be the same without the popularity of terriermon and lopmon that came from the movie.
I think they are in tamers along with ryo as kind of an homage to willis and his partners being homage to ryo and his partners in hurricane touchdown.
Basically a homage to a homage.
Digimon do be deep like that sometimes. lol
Very interesting video. Update on my red and black digimon x it came yesterday!
Nice!
The Virgin Ryo vs the Chad Wallace
been rewatching some of your old vids, i recognized the Digimon World 4(World X) BGM, such a nostalgia! i used to be so invested with the game
Very cool connections! Never knew these before.
Thank you!
Oh man! I am actually excited for that October video, I need to find out more about those other universes attached to Digimon more.
Wow, that's crazy. I wish we had gotten that version of the movie, too.
Now I hope we get some kind of Ryo movie for Adventure 2020.
That would actually be pretty cool
Iv always wanted a ryo centric series he has always been super interesting to me lol
Thinking about it, how much better would Tri have been if they had used Ryo instead of Meiko! Her story was already a recycle of Willis’s story!
It would have made so much more sense to have ZeedMillenniummon being the danger threatening both worlds than Ordinemon, and much better looking visually (I always hated how Ordinemon looked… how does an orange cat and a turquoise angel make a gray blob?!)
Honestly feels like they wanted to but were worried about implications cause Ryo crossed over into the Tamers Universe!
@@Karn_EX it's so weird tho, cause Ryo IS from adventure, or atleast the wonderswan games, than to adventure, than to tamers
Kinda wanna know where he went after that
@@Jade_Bunbun He's still in Tamers, it's his permanent home.
I would kill for a V-Tamer anime!!
Damn I got that Thanos joke
I could vibe with the idea that Wallace changed his name while in the digital world to Ryo
That wouldn't work at all.
It would have been incredible to to have a film about Ryo. It would be sad to never have Willis though. Ryo should have gotten the film and Willis should have just been in 02 🤔
Both would be good!
Willis being in 02 anime would have been cool although I think Ryo should have gotten a movie either for a teaser for tamers or about his introduction into the digimon universe.
Unfortunately, Ryo's appearance in 02 was there because the Dark Spores story angle was built from the Brave Tamer games' plot line, where you can control Ryo Akiyama _or_ *Ken Ichijyoji!*
Ryo's involvement in Ken's Dream Sequence was an essential aspect to explain the source of the Dark Spores, and its connection to the story of the Handheld Game series...
Willis being moved from movie to show would have been bad. They have to many characters as it is. Willis lopmon and terriermon would have added to the problem
I'm surprised how much obscure info I learned for this video. Another great one Karn!
Glad it was helpful!
I only know this because I literally JUST finished reading V-Tamer like two days ago, but Knightmon did very briefly appear as part of Angemon’s army during Neo’s siege. I don’t blame you for forgetting/not noticing as they were not very prominent, but I thought I’d throw it out there.
Also, thanks for acknowledging Appmon. I just finished that a few weeks ago and actually really liked it, and finding out that it seems largely forgotten or actively ignored was kind of sad to me. I get the sense some Digimon fans try to pretend it never happened, and I think that’s a shame.
12:12 - I'm pretty sure in the original sub Kokomon turned into a Wendigomon because of being lonely for a very long time after getting separated from Wallace, not from the virus.
He definitely does get a virus which fuels those feelings, I Googled it to check lol
@@Karn_EX I'm not sure where you got that information from, but as someone who recently watched the original version of the movie, I can assure you there was no mention of the virus at all.
In fact, if you don't mind the angry commentary, go check out Digimon Uncensored. It's a website that compares the differences between the Japanese and English dubs, and the entry for this film stated multiple times that whole plot with the rogue virus just didn't exist in the first place.
I always liked how the Digimon franchise sort of established parallel universes in the series, like separate servers on the web connected by Digimon itself. Like how Tamers view of 01+02 is a show when we all know through Ryo, those events actually happened.
You can even theorize that the current Reboot series isn't that, but just another parallel dimension/timeline to the original 01. Itd be neat if they alluded to that by the end but we shall see
I love the rumble arena sound effect.
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Lillie is in Digimon Lillie is in Tekken Kazuya is in Tekken Kazuya is in Smash AGUMON CONFORMED!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!
WE DID IT, REDDIT
You Sir, have my respect for all the good content you make!
Thank you so much!
It's odd to think that Mugendramon from Adventure ultimately ended up becoming Monodramon.
He technically didn't.
@@TheTakato122 didn't millenniumon fuse with monodramon
@@michaelangel6165 mugendramon and kimeramon fused makeing mellienuimmon who then fused with monodramon
This was super interesting nice vid!
Hey, thanks!
I'd always heard that Patamon was originally going to evolve into Knightmon before they settled on the angel theme. The Crest of Hope on Knightmon could be an artifact of that if it's true.
Ryo would have been awesome for the 02 movie but I could just imagine how most non-Japanese fans would have gotten confused when he showed up in Tamers since not a lot of people know the plot of the Wonderswan games. Especially since even without that a lot of fans didn't _quite_ grasp that Tamers was in a different universe than Adventure/02.
I think the dub is partially to blame for western fans thinking Tamers was connected to 01/02.
I also thought more people knew about the WS games since there are lots of gameplays and discussion about them on the internet, or has been for a while.
@@aikou2886 incoming tldr.
im pretty sure they are connected in the sub as well as in the original wonderswan games.
The first game involved ryo akiyama being taken from the tamers timeline where he is originally from to the adventure timelines digital world and gathering an army of digimon to help save the original digidestined who have been taken by Milleniumon. Its also a sequel to digimon adventure taking place before 02 in a alternative bad end timeline that ryo fixed by defeating milleniumon there and no longer exists. Milleniumon is a damn timelord and killing him and restoring timelines he broke doesn't stop him from returning.
The second game is the direct prequel to 02 taking place in the now fixed adventure timeline and goes far more in depth into ken ichijojis past and why he became digimon emperor and even why he created kimeramon in 02.
Milleniumon is the one who created the dark seeds and infected him in the second game with one and most likely was using ken to try and resurrect himself in 02. Milleniumon and ryo are even in a flashback scene ken has when remembering his first visit to the digital world with his now deceased brother.
The machinedramon that fused with kimeramon is actually the one from the dark masters as well.
Tamers is very linked with adventure and adventure 02 and even breaks 02 as a story in some ways without ryo.
The dub actually removed much of that exposition and made it seem less linked not more which is another reason to throw into the massive pile of reasons we need a 02 reboot pronto after the current one ends.
I freaking swear if 02 gets shafted yet again im going to go baby rage mode over it.
Mark my words i will be crying, kicking and screaming for at least an hour before tuckering myself out and falling asleep with my thumb in my mouth if they skip over it to do a tamers reboot or adventure reboot tri next.
Wonderswan digimon game anime works too as long as we get 02 reboot later on.
V-tamer anime gets a pass free pass from me because veedramon is my boi and i cant be mad at my boi.
@@Coomamon_Memes Ryo is connected to everything else, yes. However, the first two seasons are not connected to Tamers unless you want to use Ryo as a loose connection in between them (not only be ause of the WS games but also because of him dimension hopping in the anime. If I'm not wrong he appears in the Diaboromon movie as a cameo. He does appear on Ken's flashbacks in 02 but this is more of a reference to the games so I have no idea what to make of it). But then again even if you can connect them through Ryo there's the fact that not only both plots are completely unrelated (Adventure/02 and Tamers) but also it's stated that Digimon is just a franchize in the tamers universe so even if the events of the first two series somehow took place on Tamers that was just a TV show (for them).
@@aikou2886 ryo is actually from the tamers timeline and his family lives there as well which does make for a strong connection because he is born in one timeline but had most of his adventures in the other. He even mentions finding his own way to his parents house when others offered to take him home at the end of tamers.
He is a linked to both canons and is as much a part of both as mirei mikagura is to many of the digimon video game timelines and wizardmon is to witchelny and the digital world. Also as i said before, 02 doesn't work as a story without him and him not being a part of things there would create huge plot holes in the story.
You cant say he isn't important to a story that needs him to be in it for the plot to make sense.
7:14 What's in the box!? Another box.
9:12 The good ol' days of Masked Rider, the best tokusatsu of all time. All Hail Ferbus!
HAIL FERBUS
I was totally looking like 😍 when seeing so many bits from this awesome video so thanks for enlightening a huge smile on my dial!
Glad you enjoyed it!
@@Karn_EX I also remember enjoying the first time I had acquired the vaccine-type Cherubimon when first playing through DSCSHM like a few years ago which totally had myself thinking about how much I loved the OST coming from The Digimon Movie like 20 years ago which kind of began my love for hearing songs by bands like Barenaked Ladies + Less Than Jake so yeah ✌️😎
Hahahaha I like the divoom intro 😂
oh yeah! Also awesome video as always! Loving the edits especially the mind blown one! ^^ Keep up the great work bringin in content for us hungry Digimon fans haha
Thank you so much!!
@@Karn_EX no problem!
10:33 i think it's more in reference to the metal hero series,If i would guess It could be a character named Jaspion but i'm not 100%
It's possible, it does look more like a Metal Hero. I've yet to find the supposed OOO poster is what makes it all more confusing lol
Ryo being a part of the 02 movie is really surprising. Just started playing the Wonderswan games recently on tag tamers right now
Right?! It really makes me wish we could learn more about this "what if?" movie
Yo the Willis & Ryo connection is sick and would have been so awesome to see. The story of Ryo has always been really fascinating.
Couldn't agree more!
I like fighting games! I like Tekken and that number flub was hilarious Karn lol!!!!!!!!!!
Haha thanks
@@Karn_EX You are welcome and you see a digimon series based around the accel digivice would be a cool idea. Come on bandai!
I think the knight mon connection is basically signifying that knights (or paladins for the sake of connection) are holy warriors or warriors who bring hope
Good. I like ur edit. Congrats, u got new subscriber
Thank you!
The idea of Ryo in Adventures 02 movie would’ve been kool plus I think the events of that movie happens after they defeat Kimeramon and the Digimon Emperor out of Ken because it didn’t seem like Veemon Golden Armor Digivolving to Magnamon was anything new plus that movie could show that Kimeramon return to stumble into Machinedramon’s lost DNA and merge to become Millenniummon maybe Magnamon gets X Antibody to fight this newer powerful Jogress of Kimeramon keeping the rivalry going with Magnamon X vs Millenniummon. The thing is that Ryo seems a lot more headstrong and a gifted skilled Tamer over Willis and almost every other Tamer including 90% of the Digidestines with that small 10% being your Tai’s, Matts, Davis’s, Ken’s, Takato’s, Marcus’s you know the leader characters on Ryo’s level, Willis seems like just any other Tamer nothing wrong with that. Eitherway I still loved that movie with Willis and Wendigomon that serves as a dark Digivolution for Lopmon plus Dark Virus Cherubimon is AMAZING and the plot of that Virus coming from Diaboromon after being terminated by Omnimon thus intertwining both movies!!
Thank you for using original terminology I can understand
Copipemon is actually the original version. By the time Copymon became a Digimon it was already 2018, so Appmon had already come and gone. I'm not sure when the Copy Function was introduced but the earliest I've heard of it was in 2017's Digital Monster ver. 20th, so Copipemon probably predates that too.
angemon centaur MODE with pegasusmon body
I have a idea for a videos. Connections between two Digimon species like Ajattaramon using Paraurmon's skull as a shield, Zudomon's shell or Tailmon's gloves. I think that would be a interesting topic to cover.
Going off your Bandai crossover idea, I saw Yuri from ToV in that pic and I was like "that could be interesting". Have Apocalymon be the Adephagos. At the last minute when Yuri and the others can't beat him, the DigiDestined swoop in and defend them as they try doing what they did at the end of Season 1. At the end of the fight, have each of the team on both sides converse with their respective counterpart (Yuri and Tai, Matt and Flynn etc) to help each other in their future goals being set
I've never been able to read the digimon manga it's odd to me that he has two different digimon from the manga and anime it's pretty cool. And yeah it has been horrible with heat here in Mississippi united states also. Keep up the great content.
Anime and video games actually! Untranslated video games haha thanks for watching! This heat is no joke!
I love the kamen rider connection bc im more familiar with digimon and only eventually going in toku stuff, after i stopped watching digimon
Realizing the connection is just, so neat
Honestly that movie would of been better with rio I wish the adventure universe would acknowledged his existence more than one frame of the anime lol
Right? I like Hurricane Touchdown but I think a Ryo focus movie would have been awesome
The hero on theleft in one of the posters looks more like Space Sheriff Gavan
I just realise that Digimon and Pokémon fandom rivalry actually kinda resemble Kamen Rider and Ultraman, with so many Digimon that have Kamen Rider references and Pokémon that have Kaijuu or even Ultraman themselves as references, this is interesting because Ishinomori with TOEI and Tsuburaya Production are kind of rivals in producing Toku in their era
This may sound corny but I wonder if knightmon was originally going to be an armor evolution for patamon or an evolution for seraphimon. Seeing as how MangnAangemon doesn't have a lot of armor or metal on him and the transition to seraphimon could be odd or maybe patamon's armor evolution was going to be knightmon with the "knight and Shining armor" but then changed to Pegasusmon to fit alongside with Nefertimon.
For real! For a while I thought Knightmon WAS an Armor Evolution and was surprised to discover the contrary!
Knightmon came out well before 02 though, right? Though I guess it's still possible. (Fun fact: GoldKnightmon was my fan-made Patamon + DM of Fate evolution because, come on, why Rhinomon again?)
There were other examples of things like this. Rosemon, Babamon, and Sephirotmon all had the crest of light/Tifaret. It feels like there were more, but were there?
i would love to see a digimon series where the mc use an X-antibody digimon and his rival/frend use the normals variant of this X-antibody digimon
That would be cool!
But that's just a theory A DIGIMON THEORY thanks for watching
That Ryo part was very interesting. I noticed they do have slight similarities in their designs. same hair different color. As well as some of the stuff you mentioned. Also was that pic of the fourze poster behind Taiki the one I posted to twitter? thats pretty rad.
Project X Zone 3 with Agumon/Pikachu pair.
Those games need more Bandai reps from Bandai Namco.
Always wondered something. Since Davis and Wallace used golden digimentals, and later we find out a green Rapidmon is Terriermon's default ultimate could an alt colored Magnamon be an ultimate for XVeemon?
It's totally possible, yeah!
@@Karn_EX then that means we really need better evolutions for the others with the Digi egg of miracles
Actually if we put rhinomon on armadillomon get rid of elephantmon and to make peacock on gold all we would need to do is find a proper one for Patamon.
The link between weregarurumon and metalgreymon and their x anti body forms makes me think of a theory that the reboot is a parallel universe (hence the difference between which year the events of adventure taking place and the technology the chosen children have) in that the new server that yggdrasil set up has to have some similar events occur (to bring certain requirements thats understandable by yggdrasil) but changes aspects of them so another project ark isnt required. If yggdrasil can create a new server whos to say it cant link to another universe all together (might also explain other continuities like the games & manga).
Ryo's story really needs to be retold, the wonderswan games were too long ago plus only some of them were ever translated into English. I was hoping they were gonna dive into Ryo's story in Adventure Tri, when Gennai showed up (considering the most popular theory is that Ryo is actually a younger Gennai)
Funny, when I see Justimon X-antibody, i can't help but think of Faiz Blaster form.
It would be wonderful to have a sharkmon! 🦈
We have Surfimon and Tylomon but they're not quite right!
Does the divoom led speaker have the digimon pixel art all ready to go on their mobile app?
I would lile to see jogress of Veedramon and greymon. Like stingmon and exveemon, but just an ultimate awesome dinosaur. I know they are somewhat too similar, but that's the point.
I seem to remeber from my d-terminal that knightmon is an armour digivolvtion with the digiegg of hope, but not 100%, but im.sure its in there
I think that the solo Guy poster is from a metal hero like Jaspion
I love weird crossovers like the tekken and digimon one. Another great one is Bakugan and Marvel.
Knightmon is apart of SlashAngemon's army and an evolution branch depending on certain games and stipulations.
It's definitely a plausible connection but technically SlashAngemon isn't really a "Crest of Hope" evo either as the Crest of Hope is very much tied to Takeru though Slash does now appear in the 2020 anime kind of so there's more of a connection than there used to be!
@@Karn_EX Knightmon is also a possible evo for Patamon's evolution tree just as SlashAngemon. Other evolutions for knightmon are Rhodonitemon and Craniamon; 2 of the Royal Knights.
The crests showing up on knightmon shield is most likely just a design aesthetic, like how in real life the ancient Greeks used Medusa on their shields or the ancient English would use a cockatrice or basilisk on theirs. It would be used to intimidate, as well as to ward off enemies.
For instance, the digital hazard sign appears on Dukemon but Dukemon is a vaccine type. Understanding that it is apart of the Guilmon line but the same cannot be said about ChaosDukemon who is a virus type loses the digital Hazard both on the armor and on its shield named Gorgon
The Pegasus constellation is still called Pegasus. Monoceros is the Unicorn constellation and Equuleus is the Little Horse constellation (which is located near Pegasus).
Yeah for some reason I feel like I remember seeing some like alternative name for it somewhere but I was probably gaslighting myself lol
The Rio movie does sound cool. 😎 but Rio did get 23 episodes in Digimon tamers. Also he appeared in Runaway locomon.🤔😎
There's an idea for a series of digimon that is centered around other v pets/ things on the internet falling into/trying to infect the digital world.
Isn't that Tamers? Haha
@@Karn_EX well 😂 maybe
The main thing I learned from this is that you're from the UK... same as me aha
*ALL ROADS LEAD BACK TO THE DIGITAL WORLD*
I'm actually fairly certain Justimons is a reference to Kamen Rider Super-1. The colors are the same, and the swappable arms seems to reference the Five Hands
Definitely could be.
Do you know where I can watch digimon data squad? I cannot find it anywhere. :/
Is it possible to cover the history on who were the original digidestined prior to Tai and his friends?
Like some say Ryu is the lost child to the world and forever stuck. Like was he part of that first group?
Matt's dad in 01 mentioned that he had a Gabumon like his but it had a different evolution. But that topic was dropped like an egg. I wonder why?
All we got was 2 original destined in the Tri series.
That's all.
the part where you say that the second poster is kamen rider birth. that looks more like space sherrif gavan to me.
It's definitely possible
that poster looks more like Space Sheriff Gavin then it does Kamen Rider
Yeah I guess so, it'd make sense there just isn't that writer connection as far as I know
it's great being a digidestined isn't it
I want those posters
You know when digimon evolve for example , agumon to greymon.. is it still agumon me perosnality or basically the same being ?
It's the same creature but with more data! So at its core and all its memories are the same but its emotions or attitude may change with the Digivolution
@@Karn_EX ahh right nice ! Cheers always wondered if it was just completely knew partner or same!
No worries!
While the appmon series isn’t that good the opening was really good.
Amatsuki is amazing
If they did a 02 + Ryou movie, they'd need to remember to set it after Ken joined...
Not necessarily! They could just hint at the connection
Quickest 5-year time jump ever
Gotta go fast
There were 2 Knightmon in holy angemons army yeh
In hurricane touchdown, doesn't it show Ryou helping Willis on his laptop in one of the scenes? 🤔
No, you're probably thinking of the Digimon Movie/Our War Game where we see Ryo watching the fight with Diaboromon on a laptop on a mountain.
Is Taiki the passing on through Digital King?
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Did something happen with the Toku fandom that made you leave? I might be reading into it but it sounded like you had a bad experience from how you said it.
Something did indeed happen 😂
Still waiting for your Appmon segment
Since Bandai seems so trigger-happy with their guest characters in Tekken recently, they really should make a Digimon into a guest fighter in a future game. They already missed the opportunity to put one in Pokkén
This has nothing to do with the video but i want to know "if you were a member of some kind of dark not evil but dark digi destin what would your partner be?" Mine impmon
Good question! I'd love an Impmon but I'd also take a Dracmon or a Petit Mamon too
@@Karn_EX hm future video idea "8 digimon who could be partnered to the digi destructors"
im from the uk i feel your pain
At least the heat's broken now!
@@Karn_EX yea its great now we have rain lol
on number 8, to be fair, back in the day before Veemon existed, wasn't Veedramon a split from Agumon?
Veedramon in V-Tamer wasn't shown to Digivolve from Agumon, it's only theorized. But C'Mon Digimon Greymon going on to become the design for Zeromaru/Veedramon happened before we had an example of Agumon becoming Veedramon.
You got Copipemon and Copymon backwards. It was actually the Digimon, Copymon that was based on the Appmon, Copipemon.
whoopsie
The one you said is Birth could also be a Metal Hero. Just curious, what made you stop watching Toku? Just not enough time, or was there something more about it? Because the small UK Toku fandom is actually pretty stable at the moment.
Yeah it's possible. The fandom mostly, but also not enjoying the shows as much. Haven't liked a Sentai premise in years.
You sound so sad when you talk about your past life as a Tokusatsu youtuber :'(
I always wondered about that because I see a bunch of those videos from you in my recs
Yeah it didn't end up being a good time in that community lol
@@Karn_EX
Oh no! That's sad....
Damn didn’t know tekken was in there. Love tekken, but I suck like shit
Yeah it's wild! I haven't been good at Tekken in many years lol
Wait why did you leave the toku fandom
Many reasons lol