@munstrumridcully Machimossurus is a crocodilomorph, but Phytosaurs are even further removed, their currently basal crutarsans, so on the croc side of the bird/croc split but at it's very base.
@@Freshie207 I find the taxonomic classification -- or phylogeny and nested clades I guess they would call it now --of prehistoric life so fascinating! Thank you for the info and the reply, I really appreciate it! 🙂🙂🙂
Funny how the crocodilian phenotype is so useful that it reincarnates time and time again. It makes one wonder if life-forms will develop similarly on other planets. Edit: I made the comment less redundant.
The audio quality is much, much better. Thinking of size variations among phytosaurs I couldn't help making a comparison to size variations among modern cobras - in the sense that the largest of them, the king cobra, primarily preys on other, smaller. snakes. It's always annoyed me that palaeontologists make the assumption that a large predator in the past automatically preyed on large animals. I mean, predators in the modern world don't conform to that idea in every case. And you have to factor in the energy expended versus the energy gained. A predator expends an enormous amount of energy at great personal risk to subdue and kill a large animal. Then there's the challenge of getting into the body of the prey to eat the easily gobbled down internal organs before either competition from your own species or scavengers show up. And I personally think a long thin jaw is hardly suited for bringing down four legged prey - on land - who would writhe, bite and kick and gouge back. If modern palaeontologists had discovered fossilized gorilla-like animals from the Triassic well, instantly they would be depicted as violent carnivores locked in death struggles with big quadrupeds, as opposed to peaceful vegetarians.
You are right but I think Paleontologist are aware of all of that. It just means that they could potentially and preferentially prey on same size or bigger animals, but of course did not let a small (easier) meal escape. Bite marks, embedded teeth, bone fractures indicates that large carnivores preyed on large animals. And I think that they can also tell the diet of an animal looking at the teeth regarding the gorilla example ;). Just like they wrongly named Phytosaurs believing they were herbivorous (phyto) when discovering the first teeth.
All good points. Even the gorilla example has merit. However, they dont just speculate and there is evidence for most hypotheses. For example dentition would generally rule out classing an herbivore as a carnivore. Yes gorillas look scary, but any experienced researcher would figure out they spend all day chewing vegetation when they inspect their teeth. Point taken though and some hypotheses do seem too narrow and forced. When some people were amazed at evidence that TRex ALSO scavenged, to me it felt like, "well yeah, what wild animal do we know that passes up free food?"
I suggest a video about Nochnitsa geminidens, a well-preserved gorgonopsid that displays adaptations for a nocturnal lifestyle, next. Gorgonopsids are extremely overlooked to begin with, and even when they do get attention, it’s always Inostrancevia that steals the limelight from other less well-known but equally interesting members of its clade.
Great video covering these extinct creatures! I didn't know anything about these animals before I watched this video! Also, the audio quality was great here too! 😉👍
Amazing, and this is by no means the end of discoveries. We have this much knowledge, could you imagine what was not fossilized? The worlds known to us were far more complex in reality of flora and fauna that has existed. Let your imagination conceive of the diversity which flourished millions of years ago.
Man if dinosaurs never existed or at least had not dominated the planet our prehistoric past might have been filled with a multitude of bizarre croc like species.
Good video. i have heard of large crocodilians from time of dinosaurs like deinosuchus but i never heard of the those Amphibious predators. This is a very interesting video I'm glad you showed it. I learned a lot from it.
Interesting that phytosaurs straddle the border of archosaurimorph/archosaur being a sister group to all archosaurs or at the bottom branch of the pseudosuchian lineage in archosauria
Sound quality is much better. I thought was you, it sounded like you didn't move your jaw when you spoke and then the accent. Like some chick whispering through a smile in line at Starbucks to her friend like OMG, look at the guy in the front of the line. I still here what sounds like a pretty still jaw with minimal pronunciation, but it works just fine with this quality of sound.
While I find paleontology fascinating, and the history of the crocodilomorphs and especially of the crocodile cousins-the phytosaurs-is evolutionarily important, your condescending, smug narrative voice is quite distracting when one attempts to enjoy your otherwise well-researched and informative videos. For a while you wisely experimented with having another narrator for your videos. That was a superb idea. I think-or at least hope-you don’t *intend* to sound so arrogant; it seems to be inadvertent. Yet you should *respect your audience,* many of whom are fellow paleontologists themselves, individuals with doctoral-level specialisations about which you know very little, or individuals well-read in paleontology and evolutionary history. Humility is the best way to build *community* with an audience.
Smilosuchus and Machimosaurus were such underrated lookalikes to the crocodilians we feared so much. This is many reasons why I like crocs!
So, they were not crocodilians, but they are crocodilamorphs, correct?
@munstrumridcully Machimossurus is a crocodilomorph, but Phytosaurs are even further removed, their currently basal crutarsans, so on the croc side of the bird/croc split but at it's very base.
@@Freshie207 I find the taxonomic classification -- or phylogeny and nested clades I guess they would call it now --of prehistoric life so fascinating! Thank you for the info and the reply, I really appreciate it! 🙂🙂🙂
@@Freshie207 does phytosaurs and notosuchians fall under pseudosuchia?
@@CaspiRose99 yes
Funny how the crocodilian phenotype is so useful that it reincarnates time and time again. It makes one wonder if life-forms will develop similarly on other planets.
Edit: I made the comment less redundant.
Return to croc
like Prionosuchus who was an amphibian
Awesome video.Phytosauruses are relly underrated
The audio quality is much, much better. Thinking of size variations among phytosaurs I couldn't help making a comparison to size variations among modern cobras - in the sense that the largest of them, the king cobra, primarily preys on other, smaller. snakes. It's always annoyed me that palaeontologists make the assumption that a large predator in the past automatically preyed on large animals. I mean, predators in the modern world don't conform to that idea in every case. And you have to factor in the energy expended versus the energy gained. A predator expends an enormous amount of energy at great personal risk to subdue and kill a large animal. Then there's the challenge of getting into the body of the prey to eat the easily gobbled down internal organs before either competition from your own species or scavengers show up. And I personally think a long thin jaw is hardly suited for bringing down four legged prey - on land - who would writhe, bite and kick and gouge back. If modern palaeontologists had discovered fossilized gorilla-like animals from the Triassic well, instantly they would be depicted as violent carnivores locked in death struggles with big quadrupeds, as opposed to peaceful vegetarians.
That's a pretty good point, I've never thought of it that way before. Thank you. :D
What about that Rauisuchian fossil with the phytosaur bite marks.?
You are right but I think Paleontologist are aware of all of that. It just means that they could potentially and preferentially prey on same size or bigger animals, but of course did not let a small (easier) meal escape. Bite marks, embedded teeth, bone fractures indicates that large carnivores preyed on large animals. And I think that they can also tell the diet of an animal looking at the teeth regarding the gorilla example ;). Just like they wrongly named Phytosaurs believing they were herbivorous (phyto) when discovering the first teeth.
@@alexiscornille8627 That is also a very good point. 👌
All good points. Even the gorilla example has merit. However, they dont just speculate and there is evidence for most hypotheses. For example dentition would generally rule out classing an herbivore as a carnivore. Yes gorillas look scary, but any experienced researcher would figure out they spend all day chewing vegetation when they inspect their teeth. Point taken though and some hypotheses do seem too narrow and forced. When some people were amazed at evidence that TRex ALSO scavenged, to me it felt like, "well yeah, what wild animal do we know that passes up free food?"
I could understand you clearly. Good audio. Also, it's humbling to know that an ancient and awe inspiring animal had its aches and pains, too.
Some of that art is absolutely fantastic! There's so many seriously good (and committed) paleo artists.
I suggest a video about Nochnitsa geminidens, a well-preserved gorgonopsid that displays adaptations for a nocturnal lifestyle, next. Gorgonopsids are extremely overlooked to begin with, and even when they do get attention, it’s always Inostrancevia that steals the limelight from other less well-known but equally interesting members of its clade.
Yeah there sure is some pretty clear improvement in the audio quality. Keep it up man, love watchin' your videos!
I've learned so much from this channel.
Perfect audio and visuals
Greetings bibia
New mic sounds much better, Phytosaurs are so cool too! Good video :)
Audio is perfecto. A moment of silence for the arthritic smilosuchus.
Sound quality is great
Great video covering these extinct creatures! I didn't know anything about these animals before I watched this video! Also, the audio quality was great here too! 😉👍
I was wondering why the quality had improved ... Amazing what a mic can do
Yesss love learning about the large prehistoric crocodile-like reptiles. Subscribed.
Smilosuchus is my favorite prehsitoric Crocodile so this video is quite special to me and I LOVE IT ❤
Technically it's not a crocodile. It's not even a crocodilmorth.
Amazing, and this is by no means the end of discoveries. We have this much knowledge, could you imagine what was not fossilized? The worlds known to us were far more complex in reality of flora and fauna that has existed.
Let your imagination conceive of the diversity which flourished millions of years ago.
crisp audio - you're clear.
Good audio quality!
Very interesting stuff, thanks for posting
Man if dinosaurs never existed or at least had not dominated the planet our prehistoric past might have been filled with a multitude of bizarre croc like species.
Synapsids have joined the chat
Good video. i have heard of large crocodilians from time of dinosaurs like deinosuchus but i never heard of the those Amphibious predators. This is a very interesting video I'm glad you showed it. I learned a lot from it.
FIRSSST I LOVE UR VIDS
I have always loved prehistoric creatures
@Leo the Anglo-Filipino Me too.
Nice
yay I am some of the 1st viewers of this video anyways awsome vid!
Another informative and enjoyable video. Audio 5×5.
I did learn something 👍✌😀
the audio sounds good though i havent really watched any other of your videos so i dont know how much of an improvement it is
This one of my fav fossil crocs❤❤❤ Triassic fossilise dinosaucus...
Your audio is clean, with no distracting background noise. What is the make and model of the new microphone?
It is a Logitech Blue Yeti microphone.
Mic sounds good 👌
Thanks for years/Phytosaurs are rarely spoken about or depicted in prehistoric related documentaries..
Interesting that phytosaurs straddle the border of archosaurimorph/archosaur being a sister group to all archosaurs or at the bottom branch of the pseudosuchian lineage in archosauria
Good stuff loved the video
The audio is a bit better than before.
nice
Sound quality is much better. I thought was you, it sounded like you didn't move your jaw when you spoke and then the accent. Like some chick whispering through a smile in line at Starbucks to her friend like OMG, look at the guy in the front of the line. I still here what sounds like a pretty still jaw with minimal pronunciation, but it works just fine with this quality of sound.
Iberosuchus pls
Honestly, I feel like the croc body type is the terrestrial tetrapod equivalent of carcinisation in terms of convergent evolution.
Same drama.. different actors.. never gets old..
“Wait!! Its not have a saber tooth. I very disappointed “!
Smilo means sharp. Smilodon means sharp tooth. Don ( tooth ) is not in the name of Smilosuchus.
Goddamnit, I misread amphibious as Amphibian and thought this was going to be about some predatory salamander until I clicked on the video.
Prionosuchus was pretty much that.
Never smile at a Smilosuchus?
A familia dos crocodilianos, foi muito mais abrangentes e diversificadas. Hoje! Existem apenas uma quantidade mínima de espécies.
can u talk about non crocodilians that converged on the crocodilian body plan like Prionosuchus
Sounded fine to me
I see why they are called the smilosuchus, that croc has such a shit eating grin
I know SCP-682 when I see it, it just wasn't fashionable to have hair back in the late Triassic. Change my mind.
2:02 look at the dwarf crocodile 😅
I do not want to get into a fight with a Phytosaur
Why phytosaurs weren't crocodilians? What are the differences between them?
1:24 small nitpick but deinosuchus is now around 14-15meters long according to fadeno on devienart
Questionable source.
@@mareanie5998 yeah uh huh uh huh
@@mareanie5998 - fat
What is the genetically closest modern animal of Smilosuchus?
Either crocodilians (ironic given how many of their superficial similarities are the result of convergent evolution) or a tie between them a birds.
Next prionosuchus
1:01 Is that Sminem?
Like an angel.
Smilosuchus looks a little bigger than a Nile and Saltwater Crocodile 🐊
Alligator, it's the American Alligator
I want one
Smilosuchus? Smilodon is suing.
Or chamsosaurus
when Allodaposuchus??????????!?!!?!?!!?
While I find paleontology fascinating, and the history of the crocodilomorphs and especially of the crocodile cousins-the phytosaurs-is evolutionarily important, your condescending, smug narrative voice is quite distracting when one attempts to enjoy your otherwise well-researched and informative videos. For a while you wisely experimented with having another narrator for your videos. That was a superb idea. I think-or at least hope-you don’t *intend* to sound so arrogant; it seems to be inadvertent. Yet you should *respect your audience,* many of whom are fellow paleontologists themselves, individuals with doctoral-level specialisations about which you know very little, or individuals well-read in paleontology and evolutionary history. Humility is the best way to build *community* with an audience.
SCP 682 is extinct.
999
You need to stop talking through your nose 👃