I had my first awakening about 55 years ago when I went to college and studied evolution, philosophy, psychology, logic, and sociology on a high level. Taking the classes forced me into painful realities of my existence. In the big scheme of time and space I realized that I was nothing. Statistically insignificant. But then it took the next 45 years to even start to become liberated. Falling in love, having children, marriage, and career are all hindrances and road blocks. After nearly dying a few times, I finally killed my ego so that I could live. I have spent the last 10 years diligently following the Buddha's Eightfold Path to liberation. What a relief! The Buddha said the delusion of self is like a huge weight we carry around on our shoulders - for no logical reason. I learned that each step of the Path has three phases: First is to conceptually see the truth of the step, second is to try it out as an experiment to see if it actually works in real life, and third is to incorporate it into the daily lifestyle. It takes time. Perfection lies down the road, we will never get there, but just keep walking in that direction. Try it and see for yourself.
Yes, thanks. Yes, so helpful. Not awakening vs. liberation, but liberation as a continuum (with a finite end point) within the awakening spectrum which never ends. Just finished Adya's 30 day audio course and this caps and contextualizes that experience. Hareesh, your videos provide a vital accompaniment to your writings -- I'm a little over halfway through Tantra Illuminated, onward to Recognition Sutras next.
Great video. So Awareness and Liberation is exactly like Plato's cave allegory. What I never understood was where to place Emotions in this. After digging into Shaivism (Tantra Iluminated :) I learned that the mind-heart is considered ONE. The Western differentiation has confused me for 50 years now. Thank you so much for the teachings you pass on Chris. I'm slowly diving into this matter as I started the online meditation course and finally taste that nonduality state I've been longing for all my life.
This was so helpful, thank you! I’ve identified both in my own process but hadn’t clarified in myself how each part interrelates in this way. Hearing this has made me realise I’ve been a bit confused with the two. Thank you! X
Nice framework for awakening/liberation. But Byron Katie's work is not about dismissing anything, it's about seeing what's actually happening. Dissolving all stories/beliefs doesn't lead to a vapid existence or "bypassing". It results in pure direct experiencing without a filter. Of course one would only realize this if one has actually gone through the process rather than hypothesizing about it. The belief that you need some stories is just that, a belief, and a remnant of ego self-protection.
This is true, and many may misinterpret the process and only use it part way to substantiate a more subtle story. Yet the same might possibly be said about the tantric approach - some may reduce it to a path of gluttony.
It seems that the ego is present even in the adeha state before the Puryaṣṭaka has fully emerged from Maya. Where the kancuka is immanently vast and taken for granted as one's own mind.
Ahamkara or the ego- identity complex is not at all easy to dismantle. It is not only made up of prefernces, world-view, cognitions which can be altered, but also of samskaras which lie in the deep unconscious realms of the being and are hard to access. Samskaras are collected over life-times. Sadhana is required for the samskaras or impressions or residues of all experiences of our past lives, to come up to be either faced or to be burnt off. Sadhana takes time and effort. Greats like Ramana Maharishi or Nisargadatta Maharaj could access the highest truth because they were highly evolved souls who were possilby on the fag end of their journey. Its not accessible to all easily. Our identity narrative is like a novel or a story? Yes to an extent, but are we underestimating the emotional stakes we have in our life compared to that in a novel? Those emotional stakes, the emotional charge cannot be 'understood' away. They have to either be faced and felt or through sadhana transmuted. They definetely cannot be rationalised. Doesnt even work for childhood traumas because of the deep-rooted emotional charge attached. So for lifetimes of impressions, long years/lifetimes of sadhana, contemplation is needed.
I am confused by you saying everything in our life is a story ? I lost my daughter and losing her change my life toward spirituality , how can that be a story and no truth to it ????
Kian, of course losing your daughter is not a story! It's what you say *about* losing her that's a story. For example if you said "I'll never be happy again" or "There is no God" or any number of other things, that's all story. What's not story is whatever is true before you have a thought about it, before you put words to it. For example, grief is not a story -- but it can be amplified by stories. That's the part you have to watch out for. And, I'm sorry for your loss.
Thank you so much for responding , love watching your videos , questions:: so how you respond to someone that ask you how many kids you have and then when you say I had two now I have one they wanna know the story ! ?:/ 2- I know she was an old soul came to my life to change my path from egoistic , materialistic to humble , no attachment , but was that a slap from higher self to take her away so my path changes ?????
@@esfanddoneh , no, "higher self" does not work that way. she (your daughter) has her own journey, and she left because it was her time to leave, not to teach you a lesson. But you rightly have discerned that in her departure, you have an opportunity to become a humbler, softer, more loving and appreciative human. I'm so glad you are taking that opportunity and extracting the potential blessing energy from this painful event.
@@christopherwallis751 Really appreciate Kian's vulnerability and Hareesh's compassionate engagement with the unthinkable pain of a parent's loss of a child. Thanks for reading the comments!
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I’m so thankful for this video. I resonate with your pointings after decades of Tibetan Guru yoga.
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I had my first awakening about 55 years ago when I went to college and studied evolution, philosophy, psychology, logic, and sociology on a high level. Taking the classes forced me into painful realities of my existence. In the big scheme of time and space I realized that I was nothing. Statistically insignificant. But then it took the next 45 years to even start to become liberated. Falling in love, having children, marriage, and career are all hindrances and road blocks. After nearly dying a few times, I finally killed my ego so that I could live. I have spent the last 10 years diligently following the Buddha's Eightfold Path to liberation. What a relief! The Buddha said the delusion of self is like a huge weight we carry around on our shoulders - for no logical reason.
I learned that each step of the Path has three phases: First is to conceptually see the truth of the step, second is to try it out as an experiment to see if it actually works in real life, and third is to incorporate it into the daily lifestyle. It takes time. Perfection lies down the road, we will never get there, but just keep walking in that direction.
Try it and see for yourself.
Thank you Christopher for that beautiful video❤🙏
really nice, Chris, many thanks!
Incredibly helpful. Thank you.
This is beautifully clear.
❤️ such a beautiful person. Thank you. 🙏🏼
Yes, thanks. Yes, so helpful. Not awakening vs. liberation, but liberation as a continuum (with a finite end point) within the awakening spectrum which never ends. Just finished Adya's 30 day audio course and this caps and contextualizes that experience. Hareesh, your videos provide a vital accompaniment to your writings -- I'm a little over halfway through Tantra Illuminated, onward to Recognition Sutras next.
Awesome!! Great clarification on the process of spiritual bypassing.
Great video. So Awareness and Liberation is exactly like Plato's cave allegory. What I never understood was where to place Emotions in this. After digging into Shaivism (Tantra Iluminated :) I learned that the mind-heart is considered ONE. The Western differentiation has confused me for 50 years now. Thank you so much for the teachings you pass on Chris. I'm slowly diving into this matter as I started the online meditation course and finally taste that nonduality state I've been longing for all my life.
thank you. So good to hear on a Friday night to start my weekend. Yes awakening is our birthright. I appreciate you Hareesh :)
So satisfying not to have ads anymore !
thanks for alerting me to the problem.
Thank you for sharing these videos on UA-cam too, loved this one 🙏
Thank you! Your words really resonate with me :)
Great explanation. Thank you so much for doing this work.
Thank you! I love watching your videos. 🙏💕❤️💕🙏
Thank you for clarifying this. I needed the sign post. 🙏
Glad it was helpful!
This was so helpful, thank you! I’ve identified both in my own process but hadn’t clarified in myself how each part interrelates in this way. Hearing this has made me realise I’ve been a bit confused with the two. Thank you! X
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Thank you, look at me I'm not complaining or saying I don't understand! I could "get" the word contents and then awareness of the contents. Good deal
Nice framework for awakening/liberation.
But Byron Katie's work is not about dismissing anything, it's about seeing what's actually happening. Dissolving all stories/beliefs doesn't lead to a vapid existence or "bypassing". It results in pure direct experiencing without a filter. Of course one would only realize this if one has actually gone through the process rather than hypothesizing about it. The belief that you need some stories is just that, a belief, and a remnant of ego self-protection.
agree with your final statement there; and as whether Katie's work can actualize that result, well, it greatly depends on the person.
This is true, and many may misinterpret the process and only use it part way to substantiate a more subtle story. Yet the same might possibly be said about the tantric approach - some may reduce it to a path of gluttony.
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It seems that the ego is present even in the adeha state before the Puryaṣṭaka has fully emerged from Maya. Where the kancuka is immanently vast and taken for granted as one's own mind.
Ahamkara or the ego- identity complex is not at all easy to dismantle. It is not only made up of prefernces, world-view, cognitions which can be altered, but also of samskaras which lie in the deep unconscious realms of the being and are hard to access. Samskaras are collected over life-times. Sadhana is required for the samskaras or impressions or residues of all experiences of our past lives, to come up to be either faced or to be burnt off. Sadhana takes time and effort. Greats like Ramana Maharishi or Nisargadatta Maharaj could access the highest truth because they were highly evolved souls who were possilby on the fag end of their journey. Its not accessible to all easily. Our identity narrative is like a novel or a story? Yes to an extent, but are we underestimating the emotional stakes we have in our life compared to that in a novel? Those emotional stakes, the emotional charge cannot be 'understood' away. They have to either be faced and felt or through sadhana transmuted. They definetely cannot be rationalised. Doesnt even work for childhood traumas because of the deep-rooted emotional charge attached. So for lifetimes of impressions, long years/lifetimes of sadhana, contemplation is needed.
I am confused by you saying everything in our life is a story ? I lost my daughter and losing her change my life toward spirituality , how can that be a story and no truth to it ????
Kian, of course losing your daughter is not a story! It's what you say *about* losing her that's a story. For example if you said "I'll never be happy again" or "There is no God" or any number of other things, that's all story. What's not story is whatever is true before you have a thought about it, before you put words to it. For example, grief is not a story -- but it can be amplified by stories. That's the part you have to watch out for. And, I'm sorry for your loss.
Thank you so much for responding , love watching your videos ,
questions:: so how you respond to someone that ask you how many kids you have and then when you say I had two now I have one they wanna know the story ! ?:/
2- I know she was an old soul came to my life to change my path from egoistic , materialistic to humble , no attachment , but was that a slap from higher self to take her away so my path changes ?????
@@esfanddoneh , no, "higher self" does not work that way. she (your daughter) has her own journey, and she left because it was her time to leave, not to teach you a lesson. But you rightly have discerned that in her departure, you have an opportunity to become a humbler, softer, more loving and appreciative human. I'm so glad you are taking that opportunity and extracting the potential blessing energy from this painful event.
@@christopherwallis751 Really appreciate Kian's vulnerability and Hareesh's compassionate engagement with the unthinkable pain of a parent's loss of a child. Thanks for reading the comments!
Program is very good I think but if you started the sree chakra upasana class as a teachings better than.......!!!
:)