@@azmountaineer4630 The Thurian Age of King Kull has always intrigued me much more though. It seems an even more mysterious and dangerous world than Conan's, with more inherent unknowns.
The truth is there are geniuses like Tolkien who can create an entire world from scratch that is completely make-believe and quite frankly fake. It is believable and near-perfect escapism that required endless knowledge and effort to build. Civilizations, cultures, religions, characters, plots, etc. Conan built a world that was even more believable and real. And yet it is still a fantasy world. How is this possible? Because he perfectly and almost magically designed this world that was so close to our own, but in a more ancient time. I love Lord of the Rings but nothing has so fully engaged me as Conan's adventures!
@@lukebatchelor717 Exactly right. Howard brilliantly established that our own ancient history had very definite and discernible roots in the Hyborian Age, and he masterfully made all the connections in his intriguing and extremely well thought out two-part essay of the same name.
Many people have landscapes, buildings, environments (mixed with their background, interests) that inspire their train of thought, a dusty dirt road on a breezy day might make you think of the Sahara or when a river or lake gets that clear glass like sheen, you could definitely see an arm with Excalibur reaching out of it. Robert E. Howard had this daydreaming quality to his work and I'll always value that.
jelkel25 so very true! I think some of us are given to that kind of daydreaming, where one moment we're in the present and another we're in a thousands of years old past half the world away. Maybe these are pure fantasies or maybe they're wanderings of the minds trying to grasp onto vague memories from lives past.
I regularly come back to this video to recap on Howard's original thoughts, but now I'm starting to realize how a lot of the elements of the part at 4:28 have changed and evolved since he created the Conan series. For example, while the part about some Lemurians making to North America after the Great Cataclysm technically would make a lot of sense as to create the original Native Americans that actually inspired the Picts in his work. But as we know within his later works, Lemuria instead was not as large as it was here but instead were a chain of islands similar to the Pictish Isles yet further to the east along the eastern coast of Thuria, and the direct placement of this "Lemurian" continent later clearly turned into the "mysterious and nameless continent" that the enslavers of the Lemurians came from(Which we know was actually Mu) before they settled on the eastern coast of Thuria. Or even the fact that in the Hyborian Age essay, he states that the Picts had a colony among some Valusian mountain range given they were often employed by and traded with Valusia during the Thurian Age, and thus is the reason why we have the Picts during the Hyborian Age, unlike what is stated here where the Picts made their way to South American then to Atlantis and later to Europe. Although, it does make a lot of sense that Picts would move to South America and later interbreed with refugees from this long lost continent in the Pacific that replaced the former Lemurian continent here, which we know were the Naacal people that would go on to form the Mesoamerican cultures of the South and Central Americas later on, as stated by some of the mythology Howard was inspired by. However, another thing that ended up happening deep in the lore of Conan, is that the same "short and stout" Picts of the Hyboria had clearly interbred with some Neanderthals already in Hyboria sometime after the Great Cataclysm, given the similarities between the two races, and how the Picts were typically de"pict"ed during the Kull stories for the most part with some differences.
Thank you for creating this, it makes the interesting (though convoluted) theories of Theosophy very accessible. Also, I love anything pulp fiction era or most especially Weird Tales related.
Howard, a very fascinating artist, one cannot help but draw inspiration from both him and his sources! I think I am going for the Sword Sorcery setting, but Instead of looking back, I focus potential futures. Theme: history repeats itself, cyclical etc.
Wow, great paper. Could Edgar Cayce have influenced Howard about Atlantis as he seemed to, in part, about reincarnation? Please forgive me if I missed anything as I'm trying to so some woodwork but I believe I heard most everything, hehe. Thanks again, informative and interesting. Conan was some of my first devoured literature in life.
I do believe in these early races of mankind such as Picts,Atlanteans,Lemurians,and so forth.And at one time,before recorded time,there were many continents and islands before the great deluge of Noah's era which had sunk under the ocean waves.Plato wrote of the existence of Atlantis and Egypt had trade and commerce with each other
I think Howard put more of himself into this pre-history than you give him credit for. Also, more of this pre-history is mentioned in "Isle of the Eons" which I don't believe you covered. My theory is that the peaks of both the Rockies and the Andes formed the original Pictish Isles ... also Howard twice mentioned that the modern day Basques were descendants of the Picts (I believe you left this out).
At the 21:30 minute mark, you show REH's timeline for various protagonists, with Kull at 100,000 B.C. and Solomon Kane at 1580 A.D., etc. I've never seen this before, and I'm wondering if REH might also have specified when Conan had his adventures -- which were obviously after Kull yet prior to all the other names on the list. Probably from when MARVEL did their Conan comic back in the '70s, the impression I got was that Conan flourished sometime in the 11th Millennium B.C., around 10,500 B.C. or so. Was there more to this official typewritten REH chronology as it pertains to the Hyborean Age?
If pre historic man ate animal flesh as it was barely dead, is it possible that they consumed glands (steroids) that had an anabolic effect? Thus creating heavily muscled Conan types? I wonder. Naaah
I believe Robert read the the book PRE-ADAMITE MAN by the author Paschal Beverly Randolph. This book would have given much inspiration and historical reference to the Conan stories. If anyone has proof of my theory I would appreciate input.
7:40 Continental drift is merely a, (yet predominantly popluar) theory, and not absolutely explanatory theory. I feel the theory of an expanding earth, more adequately describes the actual trajectory of the planet. ua-cam.com/video/T2MwAy6njlM/v-deo.html
Howard's creation of Conan's Hyborian Age, and Kull's Thurian Age which preceded it, was nothing less than a masterstroke of absolute creative genius.
By CROM, I agree ...
@@azmountaineer4630 The Thurian Age of King Kull has always intrigued me much more though. It seems an even more mysterious and dangerous world than Conan's, with more inherent unknowns.
The truth is there are geniuses like Tolkien who can create an entire world from scratch that is completely make-believe and quite frankly fake. It is believable and near-perfect escapism that required endless knowledge and effort to build. Civilizations, cultures, religions, characters, plots, etc.
Conan built a world that was even more believable and real. And yet it is still a fantasy world. How is this possible? Because he perfectly and almost magically designed this world that was so close to our own, but in a more ancient time. I love Lord of the Rings but nothing has so fully engaged me as Conan's adventures!
@@lukebatchelor717 Exactly right. Howard brilliantly established that our own ancient history had very definite and discernible roots in the Hyborian Age, and he masterfully made all the connections in his intriguing and extremely well thought out two-part essay of the same name.
Because a form of it actually existed
Wait a mention HP Lovecraft He helped Robert E. Howard to make his Conan story and the Hyborean age.
Many people have landscapes, buildings, environments (mixed with their background, interests) that inspire their train of thought, a dusty dirt road on a breezy day might make you think of the Sahara or when a river or lake gets that clear glass like sheen, you could definitely see an arm with Excalibur reaching out of it. Robert E. Howard had this daydreaming quality to his work and I'll always value that.
jelkel25 so very true! I think some of us are given to that kind of daydreaming, where one moment we're in the present and another we're in a thousands of years old past half the world away. Maybe these are pure fantasies or maybe they're wanderings of the minds trying to grasp onto vague memories from lives past.
I regularly come back to this video to recap on Howard's original thoughts, but now I'm starting to realize how a lot of the elements of the part at 4:28 have changed and evolved since he created the Conan series.
For example, while the part about some Lemurians making to North America after the Great Cataclysm technically would make a lot of sense as to create the original Native Americans that actually inspired the Picts in his work. But as we know within his later works, Lemuria instead was not as large as it was here but instead were a chain of islands similar to the Pictish Isles yet further to the east along the eastern coast of Thuria, and the direct placement of this "Lemurian" continent later clearly turned into the "mysterious and nameless continent" that the enslavers of the Lemurians came from(Which we know was actually Mu) before they settled on the eastern coast of Thuria. Or even the fact that in the Hyborian Age essay, he states that the Picts had a colony among some Valusian mountain range given they were often employed by and traded with Valusia during the Thurian Age, and thus is the reason why we have the Picts during the Hyborian Age, unlike what is stated here where the Picts made their way to South American then to Atlantis and later to Europe. Although, it does make a lot of sense that Picts would move to South America and later interbreed with refugees from this long lost continent in the Pacific that replaced the former Lemurian continent here, which we know were the Naacal people that would go on to form the Mesoamerican cultures of the South and Central Americas later on, as stated by some of the mythology Howard was inspired by.
However, another thing that ended up happening deep in the lore of Conan, is that the same "short and stout" Picts of the Hyboria had clearly interbred with some Neanderthals already in Hyboria sometime after the Great Cataclysm, given the similarities between the two races, and how the Picts were typically de"pict"ed during the Kull stories for the most part with some differences.
you have a great lecturing/reading voice. thanks
Thank you for creating this, it makes the interesting (though convoluted) theories of Theosophy very accessible. Also, I love anything pulp fiction era or most especially Weird Tales related.
Superb-I am obsessed with his stories.
Howard, a very fascinating artist, one cannot help but draw inspiration from both him and his sources!
I think I am going for the Sword Sorcery setting, but Instead of looking back, I focus potential futures.
Theme: history repeats itself, cyclical etc.
I also want to know if you did it. I'm editing my S&S that takes place in what is essentially the biblical Eden
Great analysis! Thx for sharing your knowledge.
Wow, great paper. Could Edgar Cayce have influenced Howard about Atlantis as he seemed to, in part, about reincarnation? Please forgive me if I missed anything as I'm trying to so some woodwork but I believe I heard most everything, hehe. Thanks again, informative and interesting. Conan was some of my first devoured literature in life.
Great Story! Thank you for your work!
I do believe in these early races of mankind such as Picts,Atlanteans,Lemurians,and so forth.And at one time,before recorded time,there were many continents and islands before the great deluge of Noah's era which had sunk under the ocean waves.Plato wrote of the existence of Atlantis and Egypt had trade and commerce with each other
fantastic work, goes great with film soundtrack accompanying. thanks Jeff!
Love your narrative.
I think Howard put more of himself into this pre-history than you give him credit for. Also, more of this pre-history is mentioned in "Isle of the Eons" which I don't believe you covered. My theory is that the peaks of both the Rockies and the Andes formed the original Pictish Isles ... also Howard twice mentioned that the modern day Basques were descendants of the Picts (I believe you left this out).
Amazing work on this video! So informative yet easy to digest!
thank you for sharing this , very educational , very well spoken and recorded .
At the 21:30 minute mark, you show REH's timeline for various protagonists, with Kull at 100,000 B.C. and Solomon Kane at 1580 A.D., etc. I've never seen this before, and I'm wondering if REH might also have specified when Conan had his adventures -- which were obviously after Kull yet prior to all the other names on the list. Probably from when MARVEL did their Conan comic back in the '70s, the impression I got was that Conan flourished sometime in the 11th Millennium B.C., around 10,500 B.C. or so. Was there more to this official typewritten REH chronology as it pertains to the Hyborean Age?
Extremely interesting video
Great video! Much appreciated!
Thanks for sharing
CROM !
Very well done!
That was awesome
If pre historic man ate animal flesh as it was barely dead, is it possible that they consumed glands (steroids) that had an anabolic effect? Thus creating heavily muscled Conan types? I wonder. Naaah
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raw_meat
heavy work creates those muscles naturally. Look at the guys at Strong Man competitions.
And now we know where Atlantis is...and that it is a fossilized eye.
Nope. It's a falsehood.
@@mycaleb8 Ok
Cool video man definitely interesting.
After listening to this, I realized that Conan's god CROM is the first part of CRO-Magnon.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_early_modern_humans
It's based off Crom Cruach.
Well done!
I believe Robert read the the book PRE-ADAMITE MAN by the author Paschal Beverly Randolph. This book would have given much inspiration and historical reference to the Conan stories. If anyone has proof of my theory I would appreciate input.
Very good work
As recently discovered archeological evidence indicates human civilization and cultural is older than the Egyptians and probably older than 30k years
Gobekli Tepe in Turkey
Yes is older;ua-cam.com/video/xuIzNIINyJU/v-deo.html
@@shadowdance4666 turkey you mean anitole
wotans wrath one and the same now
Realy very good..
7:40 Continental drift is merely a, (yet predominantly popluar) theory, and not absolutely explanatory theory. I feel the theory of an expanding earth, more adequately describes the actual trajectory of the planet.
ua-cam.com/video/T2MwAy6njlM/v-deo.html
earth is an expanding "egg" All the fault lines in any axis shows this. an expanding, drawwn out from the shallow seas.
God, use a real microphone next time.
your tampon is showing