I've never owned a Yamaha just got my FGX830C in a few days ago. I'm so impressed with the quality, and the tone is beautiful! I've owned a Fender and a Segull this thing blows them both out of the water!
Thanks for explaining the difference between the 720sc and 820sc..I have the 720sc and its a great guitar for the money.,.I just bought a taylor mini mahogany so I don't play it much anymore....But I would recommend yamaha to everybody..
@sisco0304 I played both. I chose the fsx830c.i really like what it feels and sounds like. I have two fg800j models. They work for me. But sure am glad I left with the 830 too
Ok. This guy doesn't want to let you hear the natural sound of BOTH guitars so I'll try. 830 has rosewood back n sides and 820 has mahogany instead so: 》830 sounds smoother/sweeter and when you strum it's not like 6 strings singing, but like one merged sound coming out and each string is "perfectly" combined with each other. 》820 sounds a bit... less smoother, a tiny bit louder and I would say bassier but I'm not sure. And it doesn't unites the notes as well as the 830 whem strumming. I'd like if both were louder but they're pretty ok for their size. 820 is really good and I don't think you're going to be disappointed. If you don't mind on spending about 70$ more (I think), for a bit smoother sound, do it. My budget was 500 and I needed a guitar to take here and there in vocations and not my electric and amp, camples ect. so 820 was perfect for this 70$ less I payed Hope I helped
I think I liked the tone of the 820 better. I bought a 6 & 12 string when I was in Japan in 80', and I loved the sound of both! Unfortunately, my 6 was damaged. I have an ovation now, but am thinking of getting another Yamaha. Thanks!
I went to the Yamaha web site and according to their specs the only difference between the two models is the 820C has Mahogany sides and back. The 830c has Rose wood sides and back. Both have solid Spruce tops. Everything else on their spec page was 100% identical. Oh and the 830c has abalone around the soundhole. I dont know how much sound difference there would be since i read somewhere that the sides and back only reflect the sound and the top is responsible for most of the sound.
Rosewood back/sides and Mahogany back/sides have a different EQ response. Rosewood has a bassy response with crispy highs, while mahogany gives a more mid-range focused response, better for musicians in a bigger band setup, for example.
Thanks bro. Outstanding info. Nice playing and congrats on your family legacy. Well done. PS, I own the classic Yamaha FG-470, a Yamaha AC3R and purchasing the FGX830c soon. Blessings.
Another fantastic and informative video, Chris. I have the FSX800c and am thinking of adding the 830c. Yamaha has certainly captured the entry-level market for most beg/int guitar players IMHO. I have several upper range guitars which I play most of the time but... when I'm noodling, I love my FSX800c. I also recommend the Yamaha line whenever I'm asked by friends "what do you recommend for my student or child?" I am subscribed to your channel. Happy New Year!!
Great Vid. I thought the Fender poster was great ( thought it 2-B real first few minutes ) . I had wanted to get a FSX720C for a while....then Yamaha dropped it. the FSX820C sounds like the ticket.
Hi Chris, Much thanks for this review. You explained well what are the wood-wise and aesthetic differences between the two models. The only feedback I have for you is, you should have played both models through mic and pickup system. For us it's hard to compare the sound when you play one with the amp and the other with the mic. One thing I need to clarify from you is, I could not find the specs of FSX series in any of the Yamaha official websites. They only have the FGX series specs. Have Yamaha stopped producing the FSX800 series completely?
The word warm comes rolling around, as apposed to cutting, shrill, I like that, no intrusion tones, round sound. Hey, I'm struggling with trying to describe sound, bout that.
About 1 something similar to that an acoustic electric 5 best choice but it don't have a name on it I gave $120 for it 41 inch an acoustic electric I was wondering what you thought about it
Hi Chris ,confused between a Yamaha fg 830 and Fender CD 60 SCE. Can you do a comparison VDO so as to make an informed decision. I basically want for fingerstyle picking..thank in advance
Hi Sir, I just want to ask. I bought a Guitar FXG820c online, It says it has preamp System 66. But when i got the Guitar the preamp installed is Z1T-APX not The System 66. Is that Okay?? Thank you so much
@@AlamoMusic Thank you so much. It was advertized as System 66 but when I Got it it was Different. They agreed to returned the Guitar with full Refund. I think I'll just go with Fender CD60sce? Is it a Good Guitar?
The 830C seems considerably bigger, is that so? Or is it a trick of the camera angle? I saw a busker recently plating a small bodied 700C sunburst (cut away) that sounded brilliant even though it was through a small battery powered amp and out on a busy street.
Really similar actually! Except the 20 has Mahogany back and sides and the 30 has Rosewood. That means the tone is a little different in each of them, but a lot of the same basic elements!
@@AlamoMusic Ok Just picked up the 830. Adjusted action and it sounds great. Apparently, the 820 are back ordered and at least a 3 month wait so my decision was easier. Actually, I have one more question. I like the sound of the guitar as it plays now. Would you happen to know which strings Yamaha uses out of the factory? Thanks
Glad you were able to make a decision! I couldn't find out what specific strings they use, but I was able to find the Gauge! They recommend 12-53. I set a link here for some strings I would recommend of the same gauge (: www.alamomusic.com/daddario-exp16-coated-phosphor-bronze-light-12-53-acoustic-strings/
@@AlamoMusic TY so much. Hard to get an answer from Yamaha. Seems to be some confusion as to whether they use Yamaha brand or D'adario EXP11. Have you played the Taylor Big Baby? Picked one up recently and was blown away by the richness of the low end. Unbelievable tone for such a small guitar.
WTF Man If you record one model through microphone and the other through piezo how do we are suppose to check the differences between them?? Very Dumb Comparision
@@phanhuyduc2395 - That's not obvious to many people and they know it. It takes no effort to write in the word "laminate" but they exclude it because they know it's not a desirable word and they understand they'll fool people. It's a deceptive practice
@@ikigai47 And another thing is the Grade of the solid wood. If they use high quality solid wood grade AAA and above, they will proudly say it. If they just write Solid Rosewood its also mean lower grade wood being use
They are both good guitars! If you are of a smaller frame I would recommend the FSX! It's a bit smaller! Listen to both though and decide which sound you like more!
Why play in different setups when making comparisons? Of no practical use for trying to select a possible purchase. Please remake this video to make a useful comparison
Eight years later, still a great and relevant video. Thank you.
I've never owned a Yamaha just got my FGX830C in a few days ago. I'm so impressed with the quality, and the tone is beautiful! I've owned a Fender and a Segull this thing blows them both out of the water!
Thanks for explaining the difference between the 720sc and 820sc..I have the 720sc and its a great guitar for the money.,.I just bought a taylor mini mahogany so I don't play it much anymore....But I would recommend yamaha to everybody..
Thank you. Appreciated the talk. I really like the 830. Rich and warm.
The second music that u play in every guitar is so beautiful to hear
Thank you for this review!
Purchasing from your store as gratitude. Glad you ship!
They both sound nice but One is mic and the other is line in. It’s not a fair comparison really
What’s the difference ?
@@TheJAIRCRUZ mic sounded much darker and duller
Just bought one, played the FGX830c and the FGX820c. I prefered the 820c over the 830.
why ? i want one i have 800c
@sisco0304 I played both. I chose the fsx830c.i really like what it feels and sounds like. I have two fg800j models. They work for me. But sure am glad I left with the 830 too
Ok. This guy doesn't want to let you hear the natural sound of BOTH guitars so I'll try. 830 has rosewood back n sides and 820 has mahogany instead so:
》830 sounds smoother/sweeter and when you strum it's not like 6 strings singing, but like one merged sound coming out and each string is "perfectly" combined with each other.
》820 sounds a bit... less smoother, a tiny bit louder and I would say bassier but I'm not sure. And it doesn't unites the notes as well as the 830 whem strumming.
I'd like if both were louder but they're pretty ok for their size. 820 is really good and I don't think you're going to be disappointed. If you don't mind on spending about 70$ more (I think), for a bit smoother sound, do it. My budget was 500 and I needed a guitar to take here and there in vocations and not my electric and amp, camples ect. so 820 was perfect for this 70$ less I payed
Hope I helped
I think I liked the tone of the 820 better. I bought a 6 & 12 string when I was in Japan in 80', and I loved the sound of both! Unfortunately, my 6 was damaged. I have an ovation now, but am thinking of getting another Yamaha. Thanks!
I went to the Yamaha web site and according to their specs the only difference between the two models is the 820C has Mahogany sides and back. The 830c has Rose wood sides and back. Both have solid Spruce tops. Everything else on their spec page was 100% identical. Oh and the 830c has abalone around the soundhole. I dont know how much sound difference there would be since i read somewhere that the sides and back only reflect the sound and the top is responsible for most of the sound.
Rosewood back/sides and Mahogany back/sides have a different EQ response. Rosewood has a bassy response with crispy highs, while mahogany gives a more mid-range focused response, better for musicians in a bigger band setup, for example.
Thanks bro. Outstanding info. Nice playing and congrats on your family legacy. Well done.
PS, I own the classic Yamaha FG-470, a Yamaha AC3R and purchasing the FGX830c soon. Blessings.
Another fantastic and informative video, Chris. I have the FSX800c and am thinking of adding the 830c. Yamaha has certainly captured the entry-level market for most beg/int guitar players IMHO. I have several upper range guitars which I play most of the time but... when I'm noodling, I love my FSX800c. I also recommend the Yamaha line whenever I'm asked by friends "what do you recommend for my student or child?" I am subscribed to your channel. Happy New Year!!
the video starts in 8:15
Great demonstration and discussion of the guitars.
wtf again? why one guitar is played through microphone and second through piezo xD? that's nonesens...
i don't get people who play on their right knee. god gave you a left knee.
@@commentfreely5443 Maybe they'd like to comfortably reach the lower frets, craziness!
already have apx500iii and fg400a and fsx830c maybe next love yamaha
Which do you prefer?
Great demo. I prefer the FSX 820c.
I only saw the 830c mic'd and the 720c line-out. Did I miss the 720c mic'd and 830c line-out?
Looks like an oversight on the part of our editing team. sorry about that.
I bought an fs830 great guitar for anyone
Edward Bittner where did u buy it bro I can’t find a store to buy to
Just before this video. I just purchased a Yamaha FSX 820c. I'm just leaning ac. Guitar.. Did I make a good decision??? Comments helpful. Please 😊
just got the fs800 natural am in love with its sound and size
wait what? you didnt turn the volume up at all for the first 820 test or? 2-3 times louder easily?
Great Vid. I thought the Fender poster was great ( thought it 2-B real first few minutes ) . I had wanted to get a FSX720C for a while....then Yamaha dropped it. the FSX820C sounds like the ticket.
I like 800C I like pickup so good thank😊
Hi Chris,
Much thanks for this review. You explained well what are the wood-wise and aesthetic differences between the two models.
The only feedback I have for you is, you should have played both models through mic and pickup system. For us it's hard to compare the sound when you play one with the amp and the other with the mic.
One thing I need to clarify from you is, I could not find the specs of FSX series in any of the Yamaha official websites. They only have the FGX series specs. Have Yamaha stopped producing the FSX800 series completely?
usa.yamaha.com/products/musical_instruments/guitars_basses/ac_guitars/fg_fgx/specs.html#product-tabs
exactly
6:01 demo
you guys are soo soo lucky. you can always take that beeaauuttiifffuull guitar. I can't even buy that guitar :'(
The word warm comes rolling around, as apposed to cutting, shrill, I like that, no intrusion tones, round sound. Hey, I'm struggling with trying to describe sound, bout that.
I may be picking one of these up in 10 days. Anyone mind sharing how the FSX compare to the A1 series guitars?
I prefer the Yamaha FSX820C.
Hi Rob,I just purchase a FSX 820C and I am delghted of her sound!
@@olivier-pierredebelmont.3630 Glad to hear it! I watched the video again and thought the 830 had a warmer sound.
Question for you...
What is the difference in sound between the small body FSX 820C and the conventional size, same model?
Thank you in advance!
About 1 something similar to that an acoustic electric 5 best choice but it don't have a name on it I gave $120 for it 41 inch an acoustic electric I was wondering what you thought about it
Does FGX830c's built in tuner provide accurate tone? or should we go for separate tuner?
Hi Chris ,confused between a Yamaha fg 830 and Fender CD 60 SCE. Can you do a comparison VDO so as to make an informed decision. I basically want for fingerstyle picking..thank in advance
What is the name of that second song I'm in love with it
Hello
Yamaha fsx 830 c VS Fender CD-60SCE
How is better playbility ?
It really just depends on preference!
Is it worth to go AC3R? my local store won’t let me try for free..🙄 I like the headstock on the 830..🤣
Worth every penny
i saw them with both binding on headstock?
hi may i ask what kind of mic do you use here for the guitar? thanks
Share Beta 181s!
Hi Sir,
I just want to ask. I bought a Guitar FXG820c online, It says it has preamp System 66. But when i got the Guitar the preamp installed is Z1T-APX not The System 66. Is that Okay?? Thank you so much
I think they are both fine, but if you don't like the 66 then you should be able to return it.
@@AlamoMusic Thank you so much. It was advertized as System 66 but when I Got it it was Different. They agreed to returned the Guitar with full Refund. I think I'll just go with Fender CD60sce? Is it a Good Guitar?
Ya it is! Especially for a beginner!
www.alamomusic.com/fender-cd-60sce-dreadnought-acoustic-electric-walnut-fingerboard-black/
Is this guitar still available in 2020?
Not currently but we do have a similar model (:
www.alamomusic.com/yamaha-red-label-fsx3-natural/
The 830C seems considerably bigger, is that so? Or is it a trick of the camera angle?
I saw a busker recently plating a small bodied 700C sunburst (cut away) that sounded brilliant even though it was through a small battery powered amp and out on a busy street.
I'm not on the interwebs I'm in the webinter
How do they compare to the fsx 800c?
Really similar actually! Except the 20 has Mahogany back and sides and the 30 has Rosewood. That means the tone is a little different in each of them, but a lot of the same basic elements!
@@AlamoMusic Ok
Just picked up the 830.
Adjusted action and it sounds great.
Apparently, the 820 are back ordered and at least a 3 month wait so my decision was easier.
Actually, I have one more question.
I like the sound of the guitar as it plays now. Would you happen to know which strings Yamaha uses out of the factory?
Thanks
Glad you were able to make a decision! I couldn't find out what specific strings they use, but I was able to find the Gauge! They recommend 12-53. I set a link here for some strings I would recommend of the same gauge (:
www.alamomusic.com/daddario-exp16-coated-phosphor-bronze-light-12-53-acoustic-strings/
@@AlamoMusic TY so much. Hard to get an answer from Yamaha. Seems to be some confusion as to whether they use Yamaha brand or D'adario EXP11.
Have you played the Taylor Big Baby?
Picked one up recently and was blown away by the richness of the low end.
Unbelievable tone for such a small guitar.
is the fsx800c an auditorium or dreadnought?
Concert (:
@@AlamoMusic In stock?
Not 100% sure. You should call and see (:
@@AlamoMusic having issues with y'all's website
j'ai la fgx 800 c , c'est un diamond !
Moi aussi,je l'adore,elle est geniale et maniable,super manche!
WTF Man If you record one model through microphone and the other through piezo how do we are suppose to check the differences between them?? Very Dumb Comparision
how much will 830 cost ?
Mas porque um em linha e o outro em Mic? Não foi legal isso
Is a smaller size guitar easier to play for a beginner???
Yes
Duh
@@neilmartin99 thank you Ned
How can i order that guitar? Im from philippines
I would recommend looking on amazon or Ebay!
Which playability is more comfortable to play?
I expected I could hear the original pickup sound without compression. thanks anyway.
2016? Just a kid!
How price in malaysia?
FGX800C and FSX800C same price$ 359 What s different
What songs are these?
These are primarily little songs I wrote. - Chris
Which Yamaha fs series has the thinnest neck?
Tina Jillings I would think they're all the same since they're the same body type and such
FSX830C sounds better both ways imho.
820 seems to buzz
The 830 is rosewood LAMINATE? Sneaky Sweetwater. Their website just says rosewood
Which means laminate. If anything solid they will say Solid Rosewood for example
@@phanhuyduc2395 - That's not obvious to many people and they know it. It takes no effort to write in the word "laminate" but they exclude it because they know it's not a desirable word and they understand they'll fool people. It's a deceptive practice
@@ikigai47 And another thing is the Grade of the solid wood. If they use high quality solid wood grade AAA and above, they will proudly say it. If they just write Solid Rosewood its also mean lower grade wood being use
make sure your guitar is in tune. the 830 was out. At least on one string.
Wow
which is which? just playing without saying
Dj Diclona look at the bottom left of the screen when he starts playing
Lost me brother, with talk. I appreciate the details, but it's about sound. Just play-
We can look into details after we hear the sound.
Or you could just move ahead to 6:01 in the video
830....best
Which is better apx600 or fsx800c? Please help me to decide what to buy 😊 thank you!
They are both good guitars! If you are of a smaller frame I would recommend the FSX! It's a bit smaller! Listen to both though and decide which sound you like more!
And the winner is ampp.
820c
Fix your vid Alamo!
Why play in different setups when making comparisons? Of no practical use for trying to select a possible purchase. Please remake this video to make a useful comparison
FSX830C sounds better
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