The man has Parkinson's and is fighting hard just to be able to speak. It's not that they're not letting him speak, it's a physical struggle to speak. Look and Michael J Fox, he has so much to say, but his body and I guess mind, won't let the words come out the way he wants them to, and Ozzy is the same it looks like. I think they're treating him the same way they've always treated him, and I guess the way many people treat their father or husband. I'm hoping that's a glass of cordial or something, the man has had major alcohol problems and for a while I heard he was clean and sober, so to see a glass of what looks like red wine is a little concerning... but at his age and overall physical deterioration I guess they figure there's no point trying for sobriety anymore and if he wants to drink, let him.
lotta love for the osbournes in general love there close connection godbless ozzy and family , thanx for the music and entertainment , ie the tv shows etc amen
Sharon saying ‘what did they think was going to happen’ when ‘girls’ lined up outside his tour bus isn’t victim blaming, but it’s VERY easy to interpret it that way. And. Sneaking fart powder and sneaking roofies USUALLY doesn’t go hand in hand.
❤❤❤❤❤It would have been an honor to see his stamp collection if he had one and to crotchet with him. Lindsey is always there. As long as no one steps out of line; it would be an honor to meet him.
Ozzy does know Manson is innocent 😇 so sad 😭 seeing the Legend The Ozz Man in that kind of condition… you’ll always be a Legend and you and Manson are GOATS 🐐 in this music ish Ozzy that will never change we love ya! 🖤 it’s sad seeing Ozzy keep twitching with the Parkinson’s too :’( really makes me sad there will never be another Ozzy when he’s gone. 💔 talents like him and Manson, Eminem, Elvis, MJ, 2pac etc. only come around every once a century.
Anyone is capable, but that doesn’t mean everyone would. When it comes to Manson, people seem to forget he has a stage persona, a dark one at that, but that doesn’t mean the guy in the public eye is the same as the guy behind close doors. His dark persona makes him an easy target for allegations (look what he’s been blamed for in the past that turned out not to be true) so we got to remember allegations doesn’t automatically mean it’s the truth, thats why we need to listen to all the evidence before condemning him or anyone. So far a number of the accusers storys have not been holding up under scrutiny, many have told multiple different versions and one has flipped on the other women, recanting her story via legal channels, and saying she was recruited and encouraged to lie by Evan Rachel wood and the other women. 🤷♀️
@@deanjacobs6693 Stating the facts in the case, is not the same as stating a personal opinion. I suggested we (as in people in general) learn to listen to all the facts and evidence before condemning anyone, and I mean that also in general and not just specific to manson. Nobody should be cancelled/condemned from allegation alone, because sadly there are far to many people in the world who will happily falsely accusing someone if it benefits them somehow, and like I said before Manson would be an easy target for that, as many people wouldn’t require much evidence to believe it’s true in his case, and some much like yourself will happily believe its true even if the preliminary evidence is suggesting otherwise. Which leads me to ask, if your opinion is he is guilty of these allegations, then I’d like to know why you think the sheriffs department didn’t bring any charges against him after they concluded a 19 month investigation into these allegations? And also how you think accusers words be trusted if a) they falsify legal documents which includes impersonating and forging an FBI agent’s signature? And B) completely change their stories multiple times, as well as providing a timeline filled with inaccuracies and impossibilities? 🤷♀️
We can deliberate until the stars fall from the sky. Manson is entirely capable of abusing Eran. I didn't say he was guilty. My opinion is my interpretation Of everything I know about the case, as is yours. You are pro Manson I am pro Eran It's cool, we don't have to agree. Wishing you a lovely day!
@@deanjacobs6693 why comment if your not open to a conversation? I’m not asking in view of proving either of us are right or wrong, I’m just genuinely curious how you could still be pro Evan and not have doubts given the evidence that has come out. I want to learn other point of views, I’m not trying to win a debate. So I’m hoping you will answer a few questions. You say I’m pro manson, I say I’m pro the truth. Quite honestly when I first heard the allegations, my first thought was it’s likely true since there were multiple accusers, but it was after delving into the case more, and seeing the evidence that has been released so far, that I opened my mind to the possibility he might not be guilty of what hes been accused. Like I said before everybody is capable of abusing someone, but if your pro Evan what are your thoughts on the fake FBI letter that she used in her custody battle with Jamie bell? And if manson abused her why for years after did she ring his praises until it was convenient not to do so when she became more of an activist. And lastly the other women who recanted (who said Evan recruited her and encouraged her to lie) when she said there were multiple people they were targeting to lie about?
Sharon was really dumb here cause it sounds like she's saying if Manson did those things then the girls should have expected it. Somehow she's victim blaming in the defense of his innocence. What is wrong with this woman? I believe Manson is innocent. But her words are not defending him.
Yeah that is a good point. I hate the "well what were they expecting" point in his defense. No one should expect anyone to potentially hurt them. It's also unfair to assume that Manson would do that in the first place
My take from this is they're distancing themselves from marilyn already....in case proof comes out that MM is indeed guilty, which i Believe he is...when Sharon said you never know what goes on behind someone's closed doors that to me was all i needed to hear. Interesting detail-The Osbournes had Manson on their reality show when he was with Dita von teese at Ozzys birthday. The osbournes doing damage control already just in case. I do hope MM changes his ways. Kat Von D said recently he had two years sober and that he was making meaningful changes so we the public will see.
You do know there's evidence to prove he's innocent right? You saying thats all you need to know manson is guilty is what is wrong with the world now and yes manson not marilyn, fake fans call him marilyn when if you'd actually knew he'd prefer to be called manson....
@@raybryant9768 No I am not aware of any proof of MM being innocent against the allegations he is being accused of. And I have looked. All I have seen is Marilyn verbally incriminating himself...Can you share a link of the evidence you are referring to?
Manson was always about questioning authorities, but most of his fans (or at least the loudest ones) seem to be like „He can´t be terrible, he is so smart, awesome and means the world to me.“ That is ironic and sad. I mean, come on, I have some Manson tattoos on my body and I will always love the overall idea of Manson, because the idea helped me when I grew up in crisis, and it made me the person I am today, but of course one has to admit he maybe did all of these things. There are SO MANY hints, different people from their immediate environment confirming these accusations and have you heard a few weeks ago about how he has to pay 500k to Wood and Gore now? Don´t be ignorant, at least be fair and consider it, don´t be a blind, idolizing fan like those people following Guns, God and Government. Be better.
But the thing is, what did he actually do?! Even if everything is true. These women were adults and were staying him for years! Literally begging for more and coming back. If they didn't like drugs , craziness & intense rommance they could leave the moment they didn't like sth.
@@SASA-bq4ot I am not sure what he did, I wasn´t there. But I don´t want to rule out that Abuse happened, like a lot of people deny because Manson is their god and they don´t want to question god - kinda ironic, isn´t it? On your second point: But that is not how abusive relationships work, my friend. Sometimes relationships are characterized by different, powerfull manipulation tactis so the superior can keep psychological control about his victim. My mother was in a relationship like this for years and yes, sometimes I asked myself, why she couldn´t let go. But she was fragile, insecure and weak then and her significant other used that as a power to his advance. I think, it can happen to almost everyone and we should not judge people because of that. Sometimes you ask yourself later what happened in live and how it happened. But anyway, I just want people to listen and do not judge immediately because that´s what they want to believe in the first place.
No one is perfect im sure Manson was an ass to many people at points most Rock stars have been including Ozzy himself at points most likely. With that said do I think Manson ever actually raped anyone no I don't believe that mostly because something does seem fishy or come off fishy about Evan Rachel Wood and the whole case and incident and some of the claims she has made do seem and sound a bit ridiculous and fabricated. Also the fact one of the supposed accusers has also recanted and said she was pressured Into accusing him. The bottom line is we as the public will most likely never know the real full truth because none of us were there unless Manson comes out at some point and admits his guilt or Evan Rachel Wood and or other accusers come out at some point and admit to lying we will never know what really happened between these people. Even if it came out that Manson was 100 percent guilty some still wouldn't believe it and it would be the same if it came out he was 100 percent innocent. The truth is even if Manson isn't guilty in today's climate once you have been accused of such things like this guilty or innocent your name is damaged forever regardless.
sharon’s comments are all the more disturbing considering the allegations from people who were minors, the groupie video being a prime example.. or i guess you’re ok with pedophilia sharon? of course he was nice to you, you guys are celebrities. how out of touch with reality can you be 🧐
I'm confused as to why the Osbournes are ok with Manson, but won't approve Kanye sampling a small part of Ozzy's live performance because "he's an antisemite" so Ozzy wants no association with him.... Manson collects Navi memorabilia and does the Navi salute at his shows. Wouldn't idolizing Hitler and Nazi's be considered antisemitism?
Its all about context, collecting part of history isn't necessarily wrong, Manson owning Nazi memorabilia is no worse than people who collect true crime memorabilia, its a part of history. Just because you collect something doesn't mean you agree with the ideology, also, there is no strong evidence that Manson actually does collect Nazi memorabilia. The use of the Nazi salute during Antichrist Superstar is to make a point about the fascism of Christianity by comparing evangelical Christians with Nazis. Manson has never expressed racism or bigotry in any press he's done, his issues with dogmatic extremists are all perfectly reasonable. Kayne West on the other hand praises Hitler, denies the holocaust and hates Jewish people, also he's a talentless moron.
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Sounds like they all support Manson, but are being very careful on what they say. Glad M has them in his corner
He has a very strong support and we will back him all the way
That was cute watching Ozzy defend his "baby" girl even after all the years
Favorite part, so glad I don't feel alone on what's relateable
We are always babies to our Daddies. What a blessing ☺️
Love Ozzy and love that
Thanks to the Osbournes for good words about Marilyn Manson 💖 They are rockstars
Ozzy being treated like an old geriatric from the home... let the man speak!
The man has Parkinson's and is fighting hard just to be able to speak. It's not that they're not letting him speak, it's a physical struggle to speak. Look and Michael J Fox, he has so much to say, but his body and I guess mind, won't let the words come out the way he wants them to, and Ozzy is the same it looks like. I think they're treating him the same way they've always treated him, and I guess the way many people treat their father or husband.
I'm hoping that's a glass of cordial or something, the man has had major alcohol problems and for a while I heard he was clean and sober, so to see a glass of what looks like red wine is a little concerning... but at his age and overall physical deterioration I guess they figure there's no point trying for sobriety anymore and if he wants to drink, let him.
Sounds like Ozzy believes Manson is innocent
Yes. Because he is
@@haacon7464 Damn right he is
Which makes me smile
How the hell you understand what he even said 😂😂😂
#MansonInnocent
@@camrnlve how do you not? He speaks perfect English
Manson is allright!
#MarilynMansonIsInnocent
All those accusers…not a shred of evidence 😂
I’m so happy Manson’s making a comeback. His new music is absolutely incredible.
I love Saharon 😂 As a woman I agree, you go to the tour bus, you should expect men will hit on you. You don't like it? You leave!
On a positive note, one could just expect to spend a nice time and hang out and speak to their hero
Can one finally expect to not be harassed? Cmon
lotta love for the osbournes in general love there close connection godbless ozzy and family , thanx for the music and entertainment , ie the tv shows etc amen
Thank you Sharon ❤️
Sharon saying ‘what did they think was going to happen’ when ‘girls’ lined up outside his tour bus isn’t victim blaming, but it’s VERY easy to interpret it that way.
And. Sneaking fart powder and sneaking roofies USUALLY doesn’t go hand in hand.
Anyone else think Ozzy was interrupted a lot
That's his family lol get over it
life of a gramps
@mass96mass it will be okay, it was just a comment t b m f
yeh he was
I watched so many Shorts that I thought this podcast is only vertical.
Love ut Sharon Osborne! Stamp collection! 🤘
Manson is innocent. ❤ his birthday was the 5th btw.
He had a great bday by the looks of things.
❤❤❤❤❤It would have been an honor to see his stamp collection if he had one and to crotchet with him. Lindsey is always there. As long as no one steps out of line; it would be an honor to meet him.
I dont understand a word ozzy says, but I'm trying really hard😊
Am I wrong, or is he saying, "Crochet and a little.. c*cksnck" here? 3:20 😆
I would love to crochet on Manson’s bus. Yes, please. 🙏
Thankfully there is an abundance of evidence that Marilyn Manson didn’t do it
Ozzy does know Manson is innocent 😇 so sad 😭 seeing the Legend The Ozz Man in that kind of condition… you’ll always be a Legend and you and Manson are GOATS 🐐 in this music ish Ozzy that will never change we love ya! 🖤 it’s sad seeing Ozzy keep twitching with the Parkinson’s too :’( really makes me sad there will never be another Ozzy when he’s gone. 💔 talents like him and Manson, Eminem, Elvis, MJ, 2pac etc. only come around every once a century.
3:21 what did he say? 🤣🤣
Ozzy says "crochet and cocksuck" 😂
Love Manson!! ❤❤❤❤❤
Aaaand he's innocent
The Danny Masterson comment sums up my view.
Manson is absolutely capable of abusing someone.
I've been following the band since 1996
Anyone is capable, but that doesn’t mean everyone would. When it comes to Manson, people seem to forget he has a stage persona, a dark one at that, but that doesn’t mean the guy in the public eye is the same as the guy behind close doors. His dark persona makes him an easy target for allegations (look what he’s been blamed for in the past that turned out not to be true) so we got to remember allegations doesn’t automatically mean it’s the truth, thats why we need to listen to all the evidence before condemning him or anyone.
So far a number of the accusers storys have not been holding up under scrutiny, many have told multiple different versions and one has flipped on the other women, recanting her story via legal channels, and saying she was recruited and encouraged to lie by Evan Rachel wood and the other women. 🤷♀️
@@DiamanteSands you`re entitled to your own opinion. even if it is different from mine.
@@deanjacobs6693 Stating the facts in the case, is not the same as stating a personal opinion. I suggested we (as in people in general) learn to listen to all the facts and evidence before condemning anyone, and I mean that also in general and not just specific to manson. Nobody should be cancelled/condemned from allegation alone, because sadly there are far to many people in the world who will happily falsely accusing someone if it benefits them somehow, and like I said before Manson would be an easy target for that, as many people wouldn’t require much evidence to believe it’s true in his case, and some much like yourself will happily believe its true even if the preliminary evidence is suggesting otherwise. Which leads me to ask, if your opinion is he is guilty of these allegations, then I’d like to know why you think the sheriffs department didn’t bring any charges against him after they concluded a 19 month investigation into these allegations? And also how you think accusers words be trusted if a) they falsify legal documents which includes impersonating and forging an FBI agent’s signature? And B) completely change their stories multiple times, as well as providing a timeline filled with inaccuracies and impossibilities? 🤷♀️
We can deliberate until the stars fall from the sky.
Manson is entirely capable of abusing Eran. I didn't say he was guilty.
My opinion is my interpretation Of everything I know about the case, as is yours.
You are pro Manson
I am pro Eran
It's cool, we don't have to agree.
Wishing you a lovely day!
@@deanjacobs6693 why comment if your not open to a conversation? I’m not asking in view of proving either of us are right or wrong, I’m just genuinely curious how you could still be pro Evan and not have doubts given the evidence that has come out. I want to learn other point of views, I’m not trying to win a debate.
So I’m hoping you will answer a few questions. You say I’m pro manson, I say I’m pro the truth. Quite honestly when I first heard the allegations, my first thought was it’s likely true since there were multiple accusers, but it was after delving into the case more, and seeing the evidence that has been released so far, that I opened my mind to the possibility he might not be guilty of what hes been accused. Like I said before everybody is capable of abusing someone, but if your pro Evan what are your thoughts on the fake FBI letter that she used in her custody battle with Jamie bell? And if manson abused her why for years after did she ring his praises until it was convenient not to do so when she became more of an activist. And lastly the other women who recanted (who said Evan recruited her and encouraged her to lie) when she said there were multiple people they were targeting to lie about?
Jack is such a BABE 🥰
I believe he's innocent , like any of us , when you push somebody they can get evil. I believe that Sharon
Sharon was really dumb here cause it sounds like she's saying if Manson did those things then the girls should have expected it. Somehow she's victim blaming in the defense of his innocence. What is wrong with this woman? I believe Manson is innocent. But her words are not defending him.
Yeah that is a good point. I hate the "well what were they expecting" point in his defense. No one should expect anyone to potentially hurt them. It's also unfair to assume that Manson would do that in the first place
She is correct though. If they are not into rock&roll lifestyle then maybe they should not persue rock artists?
He.....destroyed a lot of dressing rooms??!😂
Sharons really being careful of any negative around Marilyn and shes also the one who turned her head on all her husbands allegations
Sharons voice is like nails on a chalkboard
Anyone who knew MM knew what he was about. He literally wrote a book about it in 1998.
🖤🖤🖤🖤
My take from this is they're distancing themselves from marilyn already....in case proof comes out that MM is indeed guilty, which i Believe he is...when Sharon said you never know what goes on behind someone's closed doors that to me was all i needed to hear. Interesting detail-The Osbournes had Manson on their reality show when he was with Dita von teese at Ozzys birthday. The osbournes doing damage control already just in case. I do hope MM changes his ways. Kat Von D said recently he had two years sober and that he was making meaningful changes so we the public will see.
You do know there's evidence to prove he's innocent right? You saying thats all you need to know manson is guilty is what is wrong with the world now and yes manson not marilyn, fake fans call him marilyn when if you'd actually knew he'd prefer to be called manson....
@@raybryant9768 No I am not aware of any proof of MM being innocent against the allegations he is being accused of. And I have looked. All I have seen is Marilyn verbally incriminating himself...Can you share a link of the evidence you are referring to?
Probs the fake forged fbi letter with rachel wood and then four of his give accusers decanting
I didn't recognise kelly .
SSSLLLLAAAAAYYYYYYEEEERRRRR!!!!!!!!
Are you commenting Slayer because you don’t like Ozzy or is it for a different reason? I’m genuinely curious.
@@williepearl278 no it was because I just heard the news slayer had reformed and was pretty hyped as i never expected it, love Ozzy.
@@jayjaytee9944 Oh ok yeah I definitely understand why you would be hyped about that. Thanks for satisfying my curiosity lol.
Is Ozzy drinking again? Lol
Is Ozzy drinking again?
Pippi Longstocking Osbourne
sharon looks very scary
Likes to......oh my gosh 🫨
Manson was always about questioning authorities, but most of his fans (or at least the loudest ones) seem to be like „He can´t be terrible, he is so smart, awesome and means the world to me.“ That is ironic and sad. I mean, come on, I have some Manson tattoos on my body and I will always love the overall idea of Manson, because the idea helped me when I grew up in crisis, and it made me the person I am today, but of course one has to admit he maybe did all of these things. There are SO MANY hints, different people from their immediate environment confirming these accusations and have you heard a few weeks ago about how he has to pay 500k to Wood and Gore now? Don´t be ignorant, at least be fair and consider it, don´t be a blind, idolizing fan like those people following Guns, God and Government. Be better.
But the thing is, what did he actually do?! Even if everything is true. These women were adults and were staying him for years! Literally begging for more and coming back. If they didn't like drugs , craziness & intense rommance they could leave the moment they didn't like sth.
@@SASA-bq4ot I am not sure what he did, I wasn´t there. But I don´t want to rule out that Abuse happened, like a lot of people deny because Manson is their god and they don´t want to question god - kinda ironic, isn´t it?
On your second point: But that is not how abusive relationships work, my friend. Sometimes relationships are characterized by different, powerfull manipulation tactis so the superior can keep psychological control about his victim. My mother was in a relationship like this for years and yes, sometimes I asked myself, why she couldn´t let go. But she was fragile, insecure and weak then and her significant other used that as a power to his advance. I think, it can happen to almost everyone and we should not judge people because of that. Sometimes you ask yourself later what happened in live and how it happened. But anyway, I just want people to listen and do not judge immediately because that´s what they want to believe in the first place.
No one is perfect im sure Manson was an ass to many people at points most Rock stars have been including Ozzy himself at points most likely. With that said do I think Manson ever actually raped anyone no I don't believe that mostly because something does seem fishy or come off fishy about Evan Rachel Wood and the whole case and incident and some of the claims she has made do seem and sound a bit ridiculous and fabricated. Also the fact one of the supposed accusers has also recanted and said she was pressured Into accusing him. The bottom line is we as the public will most likely never know the real full truth because none of us were there unless Manson comes out at some point and admits his guilt or Evan Rachel Wood and or other accusers come out at some point and admit to lying we will never know what really happened between these people. Even if it came out that Manson was 100 percent guilty some still wouldn't believe it and it would be the same if it came out he was 100 percent innocent. The truth is even if Manson isn't guilty in today's climate once you have been accused of such things like this guilty or innocent your name is damaged forever regardless.
💩is gonna come out in the wash
Manson is innocent!!!
Women doing WHAT OH HECK NO I QUIT
sharon’s comments are all the more disturbing considering the allegations from people who were minors, the groupie video being a prime example.. or i guess you’re ok with pedophilia sharon? of course he was nice to you, you guys are celebrities. how out of touch with reality can you be 🧐
Ozzy a good time alcoholic
And some
This should be called the ozempics. Far too thin 😢
You sound deeply unwell. If you have to drug your body to convince you you’re unhealthy, you’ve lost.
@maxdorseyif it takes drugs to kick that motor, then you’ve lost, honey. Get well and talk to someone outwith the internet. You’ll get more from it ✌🏼
Well apparently Jack dated Sarah so...
Who is Sarah?
Ya i was under the impression we were going to croquet on the bus!!!!!!!!!!
Psshhh what else
Kelly and Sharon .... what the did they do? Horrible faces...
lol it's so scary ... how do people think that looks good?
Ozempoo! 😂
That family is a parody of human beings in general
This won't age well. Come back in a few years.
I'm confused as to why the Osbournes are ok with Manson, but won't approve Kanye sampling a small part of Ozzy's live performance because "he's an antisemite" so Ozzy wants no association with him.... Manson collects Navi memorabilia and does the Navi salute at his shows. Wouldn't idolizing Hitler and Nazi's be considered antisemitism?
Its all about context, collecting part of history isn't necessarily wrong, Manson owning Nazi memorabilia is no worse than people who collect true crime memorabilia, its a part of history. Just because you collect something doesn't mean you agree with the ideology, also, there is no strong evidence that Manson actually does collect Nazi memorabilia.
The use of the Nazi salute during Antichrist Superstar is to make a point about the fascism of Christianity by comparing evangelical Christians with Nazis. Manson has never expressed racism or bigotry in any press he's done, his issues with dogmatic extremists are all perfectly reasonable. Kayne West on the other hand praises Hitler, denies the holocaust and hates Jewish people, also he's a talentless moron.
Manson uses fascist imagery to criticize American culture. Kanye earnestly professed his love for Hitler and war against jews
That’s blasphemous for you to say.
@maxdorsey and one is a mental troll.
What a waste of time
This is just sad. John is barely alive, and the other three are more plastic than human.
No one's making you watch buddy, that's on you.
Let poor Ozzy rest. Don't you have enough money already?
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