The Rules (Guidelines) of Adventure - The Pirates of the Caribbean

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    Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl showcases the best of the adventure genre by using key genre elements as fundamental building blocks of the story and character design. In this video, the LFTS team explores four critical components of classic adventure films, dives into the deeper ways Pirates utilizes them as core design rules (or guidelines), and demonstrates why remixing the genre with an unexpected element helps make the film feel fun, spooky, and surprising.
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  • @LessonsfromtheScreenplay
    @LessonsfromtheScreenplay  3 роки тому +280

    What is your go-to adventure movie?

    • @lishkoburger12
      @lishkoburger12 3 роки тому +96

      It's gotta be Raiders of the Lost Ark.

    • @joramsim
      @joramsim 3 роки тому +66

      Last Crusade.

    • @dirtydeeds4free553
      @dirtydeeds4free553 3 роки тому +53

      cowboy bebop, but first pirates movie is a heccin classic

    • @noahlasher9724
      @noahlasher9724 3 роки тому +19

      Raiders and/or Up

    • @markant9534
      @markant9534 3 роки тому +18

      Not the planned reboot of the pirates of the caribbean movies starring Margot Robbie as captain Jack Sparrow, the reboot will not obey any of the rules you have illistrated on this vid.

  • @_FunctionONE
    @_FunctionONE 3 роки тому +1746

    This movie's dialogue is just too good. One of my favorites,
    Will: Where's Elizabeth?
    Jack: She's SAFE, just like I promised. She's set to marry Norrington, like SHE promised. You get to die for her, like YOU promised. So we're all men of our word, really. Except for Elizabeth who is, in fact, a woman.

    • @DragonPrincessAoife
      @DragonPrincessAoife 3 роки тому +353

      "I'm dishonest. And you can always trust a dishonest man to be dishonest. Honestly. It's the honest ones you need to worry about. Because you never know when they're going to do something extremely..... stupid."
      Might have paraphrased a little but close enough.

    • @adeadgirl13
      @adeadgirl13 3 роки тому +21

      I love this one too!

    • @JainaSoloB312
      @JainaSoloB312 3 роки тому +183

      Elizabeth: Captain Barbossa, I am here to negotiate the cessation of hostilities against Port Royal.
      Barbossa: There are a lot of long words in there, Miss; we're naught but humble pirates. What is it that you want?
      Elizabeth: I want you to leave and never come back.
      Barbossa: I'm disinclined to acquiesce to your request.
      Means "no".

    • @theyakkoman
      @theyakkoman 3 роки тому +86

      Yeah. This film is easily one of the most quotable ones I know.
      It's right up there with Casablanca (1942) when it comes to sheer number of great lines.
      One of my favourites:
      Barbossa: So what now, Jack Sparrow? Are we to be two immortals locked in an epic battle until Judgment Day and trumpets sound?
      Jack: Or you could surrender.

    • @ClintLoweTube
      @ClintLoweTube 3 роки тому +29

      Barbosa quote is my favorite:
      Too long Ive been dying of thirst unable to quench it. Too long ive been starving to death and haven't died. I feel nothing. Not the wind on my face nor the spray of the sea nor the warmth of a womans flesh.

  • @LostCosmonauts
    @LostCosmonauts 3 роки тому +2096

    You best start believing in video essays, Miss Turner, YER IN ONE.

    • @imbuffysummers
      @imbuffysummers 3 роки тому +8

      I like this

    • @naveenrayudi983
      @naveenrayudi983 3 роки тому +3

      Yeah you better

    • @lotusthemermaid
      @lotusthemermaid 3 роки тому +2

      Lmao 😂

    • @MichaelObeton
      @MichaelObeton 3 роки тому +4

      erick, its good to see you on youtube again, and unsurprisingly on a video essayist channel. how have you been lately?

    • @gad333mlg
      @gad333mlg 3 роки тому +4

      I don't know who I expected to be in the comments but this... A suprise to be sure, but a welcome one

  • @justsomenuts
    @justsomenuts 3 роки тому +458

    Another thing a good adventure movie needs: a great villain. Barbosa is a fantastic example. He’s complex, sympathetic at times, and a genuine threat. And his death in this movie portrayed both triumph and tragedy.

    • @FelicianoKevin
      @FelicianoKevin 3 роки тому +16

      Ahh, I like the idea of his death being triumph and tragedy. It made me think of Killmonger. Both with motivations more than just "I want power"

    • @titojdavis8374
      @titojdavis8374 3 роки тому +41

      "I feel... cold..." is such a good summary of that. The heroes have just won and yet, he gets his release, finally feels something, seems happy about that, but what he feels is that defeat, and then he's gone.
      and delivered beautifully

    • @KaritKtana
      @KaritKtana 3 роки тому +1

      👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌

    • @ClintLoweTube
      @ClintLoweTube 3 роки тому +12

      True. It was kind heartbreaking that he finally got to feel something, but it was on the cold.

    • @ctdaniels7049
      @ctdaniels7049 2 роки тому +4

      @@FelicianoKevin Barbosa comes back, but then dies *again*... which is why it would be really funny if he showed up again.
      "Barbosa???"
      [Barbosa, walking down the stairs] Yarr, that upstairs bedroom be me spawnin' point

  • @Serai3
    @Serai3 3 роки тому +300

    The thing that I find truly charming about this movie is that grand adventure is always at hand, but everybody _sucks_ at it. There isn't a single truly competent, classically fearless hero anywhere in sight. All the heroism happens because somebody backed into it. :D

    • @SistoActivitatemAtm
      @SistoActivitatemAtm 3 роки тому +5

      Sarai was the name of Abraham's wife, then god changed it to sarah. Idk cool biblical fun fact I guess

    • @Ozone946
      @Ozone946 2 роки тому +2

      Only Jack, but he is no hero... He's a pirate

    • @michaelaregester2299
      @michaelaregester2299 Рік тому +1

      I'd never thought of this, but you're right. And I'm finding this hilarious. Man, I love this movie more and more the more I think about it.

  • @j.rubach9910
    @j.rubach9910 3 роки тому +291

    Jack: How far are you willing to go to save her?
    Will: I'd die for her
    Jack: Oh good, no worries then

  • @danielmanning7689
    @danielmanning7689 3 роки тому +418

    In addition to being an icon of adventure, Zimmer's score is among the most iconic of any media ever. It's just incredible from beginning to end.

    • @samwallaceart288
      @samwallaceart288 3 роки тому +12

      Daniel Manning - Zimmer didn’t do the first one though.

    • @MariusPartenie
      @MariusPartenie 3 роки тому +16

      @@samwallaceart288 Yes and no. According to the Wikipedia article, things are a bit more complicated -- en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirates_of_the_Caribbean:_The_Curse_of_the_Black_Pearl_(soundtrack)?oldformat=true#Production. Zimmer wrote and recorded the initial demo, then other 7 composers helped out.

    • @homiefromfl
      @homiefromfl 3 роки тому +11

      @@MariusPartenie Klaus Badelt was the one credited for TCotBP's score.

    • @IamJohnCarter
      @IamJohnCarter 3 роки тому

      One of his best scores really!

    • @alex0589
      @alex0589 3 роки тому +11

      Zimmer hasnt worked alone since i was born... not that he isnt great.
      Hans Zimmer is a company, not a guy.

  • @michelleflores2431
    @michelleflores2431 3 роки тому +129

    I was 8 years old when this movie came out and I remember going to the cinema with my dad. I wanted to see Finding Nemo, but he insisted on Pirates of the Caribbean. I was so upset, I was being very rude and annoying, and my dad told me "let's see this one, if you hate it the first twenty minutes I promise we'll leave".
    The next thing I can remember is Will and Jack underwater holding a canoe over their heads. I was having so much fun. Now all I've wanted to do since is a movie like that.

    • @blackjac5000
      @blackjac5000 3 роки тому +3

      It was even funnier if you'd been on the ride first.

  • @panchish
    @panchish 3 роки тому +342

    i love quoting the “im disinclined to acquiesce ur request” line what an extra way to say No ❤️

    • @jaives
      @jaives 3 роки тому +12

      me too. :) we're not but humble pirates...

    • @1995TheDude
      @1995TheDude 3 роки тому +3

      However, when you're quoting such an eloquent line, I'd recommend proper grammar. Except when you're doing it verbally, of course ;)

    • @Thimble-berry
      @Thimble-berry 3 роки тому +10

      @@1995TheDude I don't know about @rainingsunshine, but I would be disinclined to acquiesce to your request. Leave people be, mate.

    • @1995TheDude
      @1995TheDude 3 роки тому +5

      Sorry, @@Thimble-berry. I didn't mean to be a scallywag. It was intended as a friendly joke, but I there is enough discussion about grammar as it is. I agree with you there. Please ignore me @rainingsunshine and have a wonderful rest of your life.

    • @jaspervanheycop9722
      @jaspervanheycop9722 3 роки тому +10

      That line has an interesting role in the script too, Elizabeth, being one of the few people in the colony that's has an education, is probably used to running circles around people intelectually. Now she has to deal with this sophisticated man among people she didn't expect to be smart.

  • @chance_ondriezek99
    @chance_ondriezek99 3 роки тому +749

    Ah, Curse of the Black Pearl. Back when the franchise was good.
    “Drink up, me hearties. Yo ho”.

    • @senseweaver01
      @senseweaver01 3 роки тому +53

      Yeah I agree, the first three were solid movies

    • @chance_ondriezek99
      @chance_ondriezek99 3 роки тому +30

      Jones6192 I agree. I really liked the first three films, especially 1 & 2. Anything after 3 is just plain bad.

    • @yevheniishyshko7961
      @yevheniishyshko7961 3 роки тому +6

      @@JRA6192 I think he's joking, which can be deduced from the fact that he uses "The curse of The Black Pearl" and "franchise," in his comment. Due to the fact that he uses the word "franchise" with the prior statement of the first movie, the two cancel each other out, producing a paradox, as at least two movies are required to begin a cinematic franchise.

    • @crazyassailant
      @crazyassailant 3 роки тому +9

      I'm willing to accept 2 and 3.

    • @mr2octavio
      @mr2octavio 3 роки тому +1

      @@yevheniishyshko7961 what

  • @MultiSkiptracer
    @MultiSkiptracer 3 роки тому +460

    This is absolutely one of the best adventure movies ever made.

    • @LessonsfromtheScreenplay
      @LessonsfromtheScreenplay  3 роки тому +65

      Agreement

    • @anthonymartensen3164
      @anthonymartensen3164 3 роки тому +19

      It has a special place in my imagination due to having grown up with it.

    • @ryushin6
      @ryushin6 3 роки тому +27

      Its right up their with Brendan Fraser's The Mummy movie for me. We need more fun adventure movies

    • @Tetsuito
      @Tetsuito 3 роки тому +2

      @@ryushin6 John Carter and Prince of Persia killed them.

    • @sebastianjost
      @sebastianjost 3 роки тому +5

      I'd go as far as saying it's one of the best movies ever made. Not just adventure movies.
      It was great and funny dialogue, very iconic and fitting music, complex characters, an interesting plot and everything play together.

  • @George_M_
    @George_M_ 3 роки тому +289

    Geoffrey Rush, the only man alive who could say "Arrrr!" without seeming silly.

  • @IamJohnCarter
    @IamJohnCarter 3 роки тому +34

    One of my favorite aspects of this film series that rings true through all of the movies is everyone wrestling with their own moral compass. Everyone is wrestling with the decisions before them and with their motives. It is the classic tale of the good-hearted criminal and the corrupt lawman. Everyone in the stories waivers at some point. Every decision is more costly than the last, and every Cross Roads peels back another layer of the characters’ motives.
    ...
    Will chooses to sail under a pirate.
    Jack sacrifices Will to escape Davey Jones.
    Elizabeth sacrifices Jack to save everyone else.
    Norrington sails under pirates.
    He later dies saving Elizabeth.
    Jack gives up immortality to save Will.
    Barbosa cut off his leg to survive.
    He sailed under the crown for revenge.
    And then he gave his life for his daughter.
    ...
    All the grey areas of morality is beautifully represented in the way they talk about the pirate code...
    it’s only guidelines.

  • @nolaffinmatter
    @nolaffinmatter 3 роки тому +62

    Surprised that the video doesn't mention the ways in which the movie literally uses and subverts rules. The Pirates' Code, the "waste not, want not" when using Elizabeth's blood, Will's strict moral code slowly loosening over the course of the movie, the way Jack twists language in ways that mislead without technically lying, etc.

  • @danielcummings5347
    @danielcummings5347 3 роки тому +261

    The Curse of the Black Pearl is one of the best adventure movies ever

  • @Walpurgys
    @Walpurgys 3 роки тому +156

    When Barbossa dies, I always though he said “I feel...old.” I thought it was an interesting way to describe feeling. Then I learned he said “cold” instead of “old” and it was equally as good.

    • @purtyboi4901
      @purtyboi4901 3 роки тому +12

      I used to always think it was "I feel...gold." Similarly, I thought it was an interesting view into his psyche - he won. He lifted the curse, and got to feel again. "Not all treasure is silver and gold, mate". But yeah, like you said, cold is also appropriate.

    • @anrick1362
      @anrick1362 3 роки тому +4

      I used to think that too! I thought by saying old he was referring to the feeling of weakness, being near the end of his life and vulnerability. Also since Barbosa actually looked pretty old. He went straight from being an invulnerable immortal, straight to an vulnerable mortal at deaths door. “I feel old” always sounded so much meaning to me as a kid that I was actually disappointed when I learned that it was really “I feel cold”

    • @FelicianoKevin
      @FelicianoKevin 3 роки тому +2

      Funny! I always thought he said "I feel cold" and then watching THIS video I thought for the first time he said "old"

    • @flamefusion8963
      @flamefusion8963 3 роки тому +3

      I thought he said, "I feel... Sold"

    • @commanderleo
      @commanderleo 2 роки тому +2

      Fun fact he actually says, "I feel mold" signifying the fact that he hasn't washed his clothes in years

  • @nathalie8651
    @nathalie8651 Рік тому +3

    And 20 years later, the CG elements are still stunning! This film is a treasure in every way

  • @NewoandMe
    @NewoandMe 3 роки тому +61

    I am a huge fan of the next two movies in this series too. I think they do what good sequels are supposed to do in terms of expanding the world and upping the stakes. Then they form a solid trilogy overall.
    But of course they had to ruin it with the 4th and 5th ones...

    • @bellac6311
      @bellac6311 2 роки тому +1

      the fourth film haunts my nightmares to this fay

  • @yesspazsmith9895
    @yesspazsmith9895 3 роки тому +121

    Oh, I disagree strongly about "Adventure" having to have a historical setting. The key delineating idea between "Action" and "Adventure" is the trip, the journey. That's got nothing to do with time setting, only place setting. The Homeward Bound movies, for example, are pure adventures, and they're set in the modern-day of their release dates. Many road-trip movies could cross into the "Adventure" category. I think a great example of a fish-out-of-water adventure that defies the historical setting is Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home. Kirk and Co. have to travel all over 1986 San Francisco on a variety of quests (building a whale tank, getting nuclear power, etc.). There's real danger as well (Chekhov nearly dies). The only one of the four qualities listed in the video that's missing is the time period. ST:IV is contemporary 1986.

    • @Danzarr
      @Danzarr 3 роки тому +14

      I agree with you completely, although I would argue that your example with star trek still uses the timeperiod criteria inverted as the characters are from a different century and just happen to be in our time period. A better example would be something like say National treasure that is set in present day while the characters travel to historically significant period, or even the Goonies where they never actually leave their home town but explore a mystery underneath it to find an ancient pirate ship. Ultimately, the trip just has to take you somewhere unfamiliar that the character little previous frame or reference for. Alternatively, Jumanji is the ultimate stay at home adventure movie as the strangeness and danger comes to the players. We never get to see the inside of jumanji that Robin Williams(RIP) survived, and everything is set in parish's impoverished hometown.

    • @yesspazsmith9895
      @yesspazsmith9895 3 роки тому +9

      @@Danzarr Jumanji, Goonies, and National Treasure are great examples, and we could throw A Night at the Museum in there too. I did label the ST:IV example as "fish out of water," but I'll still disagree with you about the time period critique. For ST to match in that way, the protagonists of Pirates would need to be from a time period and world other than 1600s/1700s Caribbean.

    • @OmegaPirateC
      @OmegaPirateC 3 роки тому +10

      I think Treasure Planet proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that adventure stories aren't necessarily tied to time period; after all, it literally adapted a historical adventure story to a futuristic space setting and managed to pull it off pretty well (the film did have its problems, but the setting was not one of them). In fact, space in general is (afaik) usually seen as the modern equivalent of the old historical adventure stories, as it's an even bigger unknown than Earth was back in the period of stories like Treasure Island and PotC. But on top of that, even modern settings are possible for good adventure stories, as video games like the Uncharted series prove.

    • @alexanderh9642
      @alexanderh9642 3 роки тому +9

      I think you're right. The setting isn't about being historical, its about being different from what the audience knows. Pirates are cool because we don't have them- this allows both PotC and Goonies to work. Talking animals are cool and we do not experience those. None of us are from Starfleet, so star trek is cool. A historical setting helps frame an adventure as being part of the unknown for us, but it could just as easily be a super secret spy threat or a magical curse in our time. That 4th element is the thing that gives the audience, and usually its characters, something foreign to grapple with

    • @yesspazsmith9895
      @yesspazsmith9895 3 роки тому +1

      @@alexanderh9642 I'd like to tweak that excellent point to say it's about the setting being different than what the character knows.

  • @thatoneseen
    @thatoneseen 3 роки тому +112

    Adventure films like these cost a lot of money. And most studios are not willing to take the risk as the break even point is extremely high. Just look at the top ten highest movie budgets of all time (and the returns)! As such, I feel the "danger" segment or the conflicts throughout POTC is crucial in keeping viewers immersed in the world the filmmakers have built in order to cover the high budget, ie box office via word of mouth and repeated viewings. But to tell stories like these, I think it is important to ingraft these adventures in the characters, and not merely smack it on the surface of the film for the sake of fulfilling and marketing it as an adventure film.

    • @JaimeD.
      @JaimeD. 3 роки тому +3

      *From Story To Plot* Yes. Good points regarding adventure films.

    • @macaronipanda9516
      @macaronipanda9516 3 роки тому +3

      It's also a fun movie. Too often the writing community gets caught up with creating something good, rather than enjoyable.
      For example, while Chernobyl is a superior creation, something like Fast and the Furious is more entertaining and will make more money. Pirates, at least the original trilogy, was able to be both and will be remembered as a classic franchise for a long time.

    • @phoebexxlouise
      @phoebexxlouise 3 роки тому +3

      Yep. I wish we had more of these but so many attempts in the 2010s like John Carter of Mars and Jupiter Ascending were absolute flops. Maybe SciFi doesn't mix well with adventure.

    • @JaimeD.
      @JaimeD. 3 роки тому +1

      @@phoebexxlouise I had no idea what I saw in "Jupiter Ascending". What in the name of filmmaking was that??? Dumb af.

    • @justsomenuts
      @justsomenuts 3 роки тому

      Phoebe Purtill Also true for Valerian: City of a Thousand Planets. I wanted to like the movie (The Fifth Element is one of my top favorite movies) but it was such a dumpster fire imo. I never turn movies off, but this time was an exception. Terrible dialogue, off putting acting, main characters that not only had no chemistry, they also looked like siblings. I was pissed that they ruined their chance with such important source material.

  • @thetntsheep4075
    @thetntsheep4075 3 роки тому +4

    "Whose side is Jack on?"
    "At the moment?"

  • @davidr2421
    @davidr2421 3 роки тому +12

    It's a very interesting observation that adventure movies tend to take place in historical time periods. I wonder if it's a consequence of the fact that the modern world is ever-increasingly more safe, mapped-out, and convenient to travel. If it's trivial to get transportation to the place you're going, you already know what's there because you looked it up on the internet, and the place has already been routed and deburred by others who have been there before, then it's going to be difficult to have a real adventure.

  • @gustavogirotto
    @gustavogirotto 3 роки тому +5

    I really think The Mummy (1999) paved the way to many things that work really well in Pirates. Mainly, the mix of humour, action and scary stuff, as well as the VFX for the mummy priests laying down the work for the skeleton pirates.

  • @scenealizer
    @scenealizer 3 роки тому +87

    Now on to, “Lord of the rings and how to nail a MacGuffin”

    • @hermajesty2174
      @hermajesty2174 3 роки тому +3

      Yes! An essay on this would be so good!!

    • @Customerbuilder
      @Customerbuilder 3 роки тому +17

      The One Ring isn't a MacGuffin. A MacGuffin is interchangeable with any other desirable object. Diamonds, gold, launch codes, a Maltese Falcon, etc. The One Ring drives the internal conflict within Frodo and the Fellowship, created Gollum, and forces the setting of the climax on Mount Doom. Not interchangeable = not a MacGuffin.

    • @eoincampbell1584
      @eoincampbell1584 3 роки тому

      @@Customerbuilder Though isn't the Maltese Falcon actually also not a MacGuffin for spoiler reasons?

    • @firiel2366
      @firiel2366 3 роки тому +2

      Yeah I gotta take issue with calling the Ring a MacGuffin. The Ring has a will of its own and actively affects the outcome of the story. Lots of LOTR wannabe stories follow the "get the thing to the place" structure, but the object in question could literally be any shiny orb.

    • @Customerbuilder
      @Customerbuilder 3 роки тому

      @@eoincampbell1584 if I'm not mistaken, Hitchcock coined the term specifically for the Maltese Falcon. The statuette itself is just a block of gold, coated (if I remember right) in a sort of resin.

  • @DarthBiomech
    @DarthBiomech 3 роки тому +155

    Weeeelll, I'd disagree on the "adventure movie should be a historical setting" point. I think there's something else there, and it's called "romanticization". It might not be entirely correct to bring in a videogame as an example, but "Uncharted" video games are set in modern times, but they're definitely look, feel and play as a typical adventure movie. The historical settings tend to be romanticized more and to a greater extent than something more modern.
    I think the main part of what distinguishes adventure from action is "fun". I mean not as in the jokes and such, but in an adventure even dangers and perils don't look particularly... _dangerous._ You never or almost never go "Oh crap, that's horrible, I would never want to experience THAT".
    I'd also suggest two other staples of an adventure story: "freedom" and "mystery". Freedom to go anywhere and have daring events and see exotic locations (with no rules to constrict your decisions, only _guidelines_), but with a _purpose,_ which is to solve a mystery. For example in the Pirates, both Will and Elizabeth escape the "routine" of their lives and social position (Okay I'll admit that Elizabeth doesn't do that voluntarily), to enter a world of far greater possibilities, and the mystery is, of course, the golden amulet and everything that revolves around it.

    • @LaneMaxfield
      @LaneMaxfield 3 роки тому +10

      I think you're on to something, but I still think Michael's point fits in. When an action story is set in modern times, we can't help but project our modern fears onto it. This makes it harder to romanticize the conflict. When a story is set in the past, we know how things turned out, which relieves the tension.
      There are other ways to achieve that. Doctor Who is an adventure series with time travel, but the episodes set in modern times still feel adventure-y. I think this is because the time travel inherent in the premise allows for the same relief of tension; no matter what happens now, there is a past and a future, which means somehow everything will be okay. But, for most adventure stories, a historical setting is a reliable, efficient and adaptable way to create danger while keeping a playful, romanticized tone.

    • @DarthBiomech
      @DarthBiomech 3 роки тому +7

      @@LaneMaxfield I mean, the easiest way to achieve adventure feel in a modernly-set country is to include the travel aspect as soon as possible. Travel to another (and preferably exotic) country, and suddenly your views on modern life start to waver - it's a different country after all! What if something like that really *is* possible there? Of course there's a caveat in that this will not work for people who are actually living there or have deep knowledge about that country. But I'd guess same would be true for historians?
      But I'll agree that it's just easier to use historical setting for the adventure. Most people gain their knowledge of historical time periods from another media, which tends to already be romanticized.

    • @LaneMaxfield
      @LaneMaxfield 3 роки тому +7

      @@DarthBiomech Yeah, I think the problem modern filmmakers are running into right now is that globalism rises and political situations become intertwined, it's hard to exoticize and romanticize a foreign nation. We are becoming more similar, more intertwined and more aware of how the othering attitudes towards other cultures have created problems. Modern stories of travel need to be more mindful, or they risk seeming stereotypical and out of touch.
      Now that I think about it, I don't think it's impossible. I recently read a short story, "The Heirloom" by Crystal Connors, that blended horror and adventure. The modern day protagonist traveled to the Caribbean as an anthropologist researching an ancestor who was known locally as a powerful witch. It worked largely because the characters who were local felt like they were in a world that wasn't exotic to them; their normal was different from the protagonist, but it was still their normal. Most modern adventure stories fail that test, and they lose staying power because of it.

    • @alandiaz5184
      @alandiaz5184 3 роки тому

      But still in Uncharted the historical element is key, and it also has many fantastical and unrealistic elements that serve to separate it from the common world, even though we know it occurs in modern times

    • @kingkylie9655
      @kingkylie9655 3 роки тому +1

      they also mentioned star wars so its less about a historical setting and more about a world we havent experienced aka anything but our modern tech world (either go high tech, add magic, or make it historical)

  • @VapeKidJr
    @VapeKidJr 3 роки тому +40

    would you guys ever consider talking about what may have gone wrong in the sequels. They still have exotic locations and fun concepts + aesthetics, but they never really stick the landing and Im not sure why. What do you think?

    • @samwallaceart288
      @samwallaceart288 3 роки тому +8

      EldritchWhorer - from what I remember: too many magical mechanics that are confusing to keep track of. In the first one, they keep it at The Coin and Turner’s Blood, as the major mcguffins. By part 3 there are way more mechanics to keep track of and it becomes a chore to watch.

    • @homiefromfl
      @homiefromfl 3 роки тому +26

      Dead Man's Chest and At World's End were both LIT AS FUCK. Fun as shit till the end. The movies after that suffer in some regards, but I still enjoy seeing Jack on screen. But the original Pirate's trilogy was magnificent. I love Barbossa being back in AWE, but I love how DMC is so fun and introduces so many neat things into the trilogy.

    • @erichachenberger7914
      @erichachenberger7914 3 роки тому +20

      Homiefromfl I couldn't agree more. Freaking loved part 2 and 3. I think the challenge of part 4 and 5 was that Jack is no good main character on his own. I have always been more invested in Will and Elisabeth's story arc.

    • @VapeKidJr
      @VapeKidJr 3 роки тому +27

      @@erichachenberger7914 Maybe thats it. Jack is the stand out performance in part 1 but its really will and elisabeths story. I think Jack works better as an unpredictable X factor that the protagonists need to work with and around than as a protagonist in his own right.

    • @carlos37andre
      @carlos37andre 3 роки тому +7

      I loved part 2 and 3. The trilogy imo is great, the problem began in 4 and 5 (even tho I still think 4 is fun enough, 5 is pretty bad).

  • @tia4337
    @tia4337 3 роки тому +40

    Pirates of Carribbean = A masterpiece

  • @kstephenson5857
    @kstephenson5857 3 роки тому +89

    I think "historical setting" is a mildly inaccurate way to put it. To be pedantic, I'd argue it's a "non-modern" setting. It doesn't need to be set in the past; the timeline itself doesn't bear any attachment to a sense of adventure (MacGyver, Uncharted; I'd argue that Star Wars and other adventure/sci-fi movies like Ready Player One are further proof that an adventure flick can easily be set in the future with no facsimile of historicity involved). What an adventure movie requires, then, would be a setting in which our modern lifestyles cannot exist. Whether this new world involves the futuristic technology of lightsabers, the archaic traditions of sailing pirates, or a group of teens trapped in a video game, the new setting in which we the audience find ourselves is one that does not have many of our modern conveniences or customs. This, the most fundamental aspect of transporting your audience from the beginning, allows for the extensive traveling found in action films to be light and enjoyable, rather than disorientating and frustrating.

    • @DarthBiomech
      @DarthBiomech 3 роки тому +16

      i think the core essence of all that is "freedom". To go anywhere, to decide anything, without somebody hovering over your shoulder, mumbling "you can't do that" and having power to _ensure_ you won't do that. That's why so much of the adventure heroes are either misfits from the start, or they join a group of misfits to start the adventure. It's not much of transporting the audience, it's to feed their escapism beast.

    • @jacobpedersen3668
      @jacobpedersen3668 3 роки тому +2

      "From a long time ago.. in a galaxy far far away"

    • @NanoMan737400
      @NanoMan737400 3 роки тому

      The chronicles of Narnia are set during WWI or WWII, I don't remember which one, but that setting holds plenty of similarities with our modern world. The fantastic and impossible elements is only present for the protagonists, so it could be actually anything. Or maybe it doesn't actually count as an adventure movie, just fantasy.

    • @bigolehamburger173
      @bigolehamburger173 3 роки тому +3

      I mean national treasure is an adventure movie and it takes place wholly in our world, yet has that element of something that is a little cooler or under surface which i think gives it that adventure vibe. It’s not a 1:1 scale of America it’s a fantasized version of it

    • @nachoijp
      @nachoijp 3 роки тому +3

      I think that the element should be "excentric setting" to be more generic. The point being that it is not the real, everyday, normal world. If it's historical, because it's in the past; if it's futuristic, because there are new things, and if it's contemporary, because it's hidden or underground somehow (think Indiana Jones or National Treasure). They all have in common that the setting is not normal, adventure happens outside of normality, and thus it requires different rules that the character must learn and use in order to succeed.

  • @irian42
    @irian42 3 роки тому +21

    The writers audio commentary for The Curse of the Black Pearl is soo good! Very worthwhile for anyone interested in screenwriting!

    • @DaFireElf
      @DaFireElf 3 роки тому

      where would you be able to find it?

    • @irian42
      @irian42 3 роки тому

      @@DaFireElf Unfortunately no idea, I have it on the DVD from back when.

  • @holdencarrell5363
    @holdencarrell5363 3 роки тому +79

    The way I literally just stopped everything I was doing to watch this video. King is back

  • @FringeMusic107
    @FringeMusic107 3 роки тому +8

    Great analysis. I hadn't considered the meta aspect of Barbossa's "ghost stories" line, which is indeed one aspect that sets this movie apart. The movie is basically telling us it's not a typical pirate story as the nature of the curse is revealed.

  • @BarrieBM
    @BarrieBM 3 роки тому +7

    I literally rewatched the movies last week and theres these few movies where everytime i rewatch them im like 'wow they were good' like lord of the rings or the shining and i also had it with pirates of the Caribbean. i love how they mixed humor with tensity and adventure but also not too much humor, if i would say make a movie that has comedie in it but also adventure and tensity 99% of the time it would be filled with humor whilst pirates of the Caribbean movies dont have too much it all flows together

  • @av5829
    @av5829 2 роки тому +3

    Honestly - this series is perfect, like we can knit pick all we want about which one is better but looking at the overalls films 🤭 I’m so happy I grew up with it. The adventure, comedy, character development, timing, the plot, the actors like come on 🤷🏾‍♀️ you have to give it to them.

  • @samwallaceart288
    @samwallaceart288 3 роки тому +10

    National Treasure is an adventure movie through and through; it doesn’t need to be pre-modern setting.
    That said, I like your underlying point about how the setting informs the character arcs; there’s too many movies that lose me in the first 5 minutes upon seeing that the main characters all have 1st-world problems.

    • @shaihulud3140
      @shaihulud3140 3 роки тому

      Like how the Spartans in 300 were fighting for freedom, despite the fact that REAL Spartan society practiced slavery.

  • @MangumStudios
    @MangumStudios 3 роки тому +18

    This is literally my favorite movie of all time!

  • @ruthantunez92
    @ruthantunez92 3 роки тому

    I think there is a lot of people who can't see how Great this movie is... It does one of the greatest things ever it.... realizes that the audience is not stupid... And can follow a story with put needing to be held by the hand.. And it has great characters...all with very different ideas of what is right and what they desire... All while in reality wanting some of the very same things in reality.... Simply great.... Complex yet straight forward and what a great adventure it is.

  • @benjaminhaupais6470
    @benjaminhaupais6470 3 роки тому +4

    You can change "historical setting" for "exotic/estrange setting". Fist because 100% historicality is impossible (why even bother), second because the intro/setting role is to engage the viewer and make room for "credulity". So any place that you have heard of but don't really know about will work (space/wild west/tolkianesk fantasy...). Anything that can function as a door step to the "Unknown lands".
    Also the objects of the quest can be sci-fi thingy : "nobody know how but it work"

  • @brigettedaisy
    @brigettedaisy 3 роки тому +2

    So glad you did this film! I often feel it's cast aside as another Disney movie but it IS SO GOOD on so many levels from costumes, to set, to script, to cinematography, music, and more. Easily one of my favorite movies of all time.

  • @ArtsyChick24
    @ArtsyChick24 3 роки тому +9

    Am i bugging or is the first POTC film making a comeback in video essays? First Storytellers did a bit on Jack back in May, then CinemaWins a week ago, and now this.

  • @C.A.P.F.
    @C.A.P.F. 3 роки тому +5

    Urgh, the melting gelatin-head in Raider of the Lost Ark gives me goosebumps everytime!

  • @candelaarenas8917
    @candelaarenas8917 3 роки тому +1

    i always loved Pirates of the caribbean for being an adventure film but also a ghost story and im soo glad to find videos like this, with someone actually digging a little deeper. Loved this!

  • @killthecatpodcast6300
    @killthecatpodcast6300 3 роки тому +1

    I was so happy to see that you covered this movie! This is the movie that made me want to be a filmmaker. I remember watching it over and over again when I was about eleven, and being able to quote it by heart. You did such an excellent job at analysing this (in both the video and the podcast episode)

  • @MovieBuffConnorJamieson
    @MovieBuffConnorJamieson 3 роки тому +8

    I’m literally writing a Pirate screenplay exploring the genre of the grand hero’s journey kind of adventure movie so this is the perfect video

    • @LessonsfromtheScreenplay
      @LessonsfromtheScreenplay  3 роки тому +3

      Perfect!

    • @Turner1
      @Turner1 3 роки тому +1

      Get in touch if you need somebody to read it! while I’m studying music now in hopes of doing movie scores, video game soundtracks, and producing, I was going to do film originally. I am also a huge fan of the pirate genre and am so glad to hear you’re writing something pirate-themed because I want more pirate movies in the mainstream for SURE.

  • @michaelnelson2976
    @michaelnelson2976 3 роки тому +1

    I love and appreciate this video of yours in particular! I realize that I very much enjoy the Adventure genre, a genre I wasn't so aware of! I'm going back and watching these films now, thanks for afternoon plans!

  • @alicianeptune
    @alicianeptune 3 роки тому +7

    ahhhh actually, you know what my go-to adventure movie is?
    National Treasure.

  • @clairesavage1500
    @clairesavage1500 3 роки тому +2

    When we were kids, a couple of my sisters were truly freaks who would entertain themselves by just quoting WHOLE movies together and Pirates was one of their favorites.

  • @peterward2275
    @peterward2275 3 роки тому +3

    Well, basically you just follow the classic 'Hero's Journey' as in Joseph Campbell's 'Hero of a Thousand Faces'. I'm sure you are well aware of this invaluable work.

  • @bamflyer
    @bamflyer 3 роки тому +3

    Yooo, I just started binging them all, this is perfect timing

  • @Henry-vr5gv
    @Henry-vr5gv 3 роки тому +1

    beautiful video as always guys!! lowkey the best channel on the tube

  • @pauvelasco06
    @pauvelasco06 3 роки тому +1

    because of this video essay i'm reminded of how much i LOVE the Pirates of the Caribbean series (yeah even the latter two). At World's End is a guilty pleasure but Curse of the Black Pearl is an instant classic.

  • @aidanyelsma7762
    @aidanyelsma7762 3 роки тому +2

    I would love it if there was an episode of Lessons from the Screenplay about how 50/50 is such a perfect tragic comedy.

  • @matheusarruda6462
    @matheusarruda6462 3 роки тому +6

    I'm in the middle of a knee-deep research about Pirate media, particularly in the strange pirate resurgence of the early 00s (One Piece, POTC trilogy, Sinbad: The Legend of the Seven Seas, Treasure Planet, Peter Pan) and its political relevance (I have also been reading about the pirate motif in Soviet cinema and have re-read Colin Woodard's "The Republic of Pirates") *and* I'm in the middle of running a Pirate-themed rpg table, so this video came in like a glove to this quarantine period of research. Thank you!
    Take what you can...

  • @c.r.blankenship9040
    @c.r.blankenship9040 2 роки тому +1

    I'd love to see a video on Dead Man's Chest and At World's End - totally underrated sequels (especially At World's End). We can all just pretend like 4 and 5 don't exist.

  • @nitsmagicniteshsurwade1808
    @nitsmagicniteshsurwade1808 3 роки тому

    I have been waiting for someone to enlighten about the adventure films guidelines .. finally..I was looking for something like this 2 yrs ago

  • @rociomiranda5684
    @rociomiranda5684 2 роки тому +2

    Nobody will read this, but just for the heck of it, the cursed treasure and the ghost pirate underwater walk are from a very obscure 1950s B-movie called The Zombies of Mora Tav.

  • @JimmyGoodYT
    @JimmyGoodYT 3 роки тому +1

    Pirates of the Caribbean is such a wonderful film. I think back to it often! Raiders of the Lost Ark might be my go-to adventure film along with Jurassic Park. Really cool video! Love learning a little bit more about the elements of film!

  • @jaykay5811
    @jaykay5811 3 роки тому +3

    Treasure Planet is very underrated and does this in a very fresh and inventive way

  • @ludmilamanni8980
    @ludmilamanni8980 3 роки тому

    I can not stop watching videos of this movie, it seems that I will have to see it again for I do not know how many times

  • @sorosaltgaming
    @sorosaltgaming 3 роки тому +1

    So this is why i love this franchise

  • @phoebexxlouise
    @phoebexxlouise 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks for reminding me why this movie was the original for me - the inspiration for so much of my childhood fantasy story writing and the one aesthetic I can never really find anywhere else. Except maybe The Goonies, Lost Boys, Raiders of the Lost Ark, and Stargate.

  • @ternaldo
    @ternaldo 3 роки тому +1

    Hey I love the Adventure genre to death. Always get excited when a video is adventure related

  • @fr3dth3hors3
    @fr3dth3hors3 3 роки тому

    One of the very few movies I would be happy to endlessly rewatch 🙌 one of the best!

  • @wcsah
    @wcsah 3 роки тому

    This video was really well done!

  • @ADifferentVibe
    @ADifferentVibe 3 роки тому +2

    Great video. It also helps this screenplay that Johnny Depp plays Captain Jack Sparrow like none other. Don't ever remember the last time someone playing a pirate character was nominated for Best Actor Oscar.

  • @brunoschaves_
    @brunoschaves_ 3 роки тому +1

    One of your best videos!! OMG!!! So good!!! Thank u for this!

  • @SarahHanna17
    @SarahHanna17 3 роки тому

    Wow. I just rewatched this film this week on a whim! I've spent my time since then rememebering how no one had high (or even medium lol) expectations for this film: a movie based on a 40 yr. old amusement park ride? And then it turns out to be one of the greatest adventure movies ever made!? Just...HOW?

  • @aIiza
    @aIiza 3 роки тому +1

    _dude, your voice is so pleasant to listen to. thanks for another great video_

  • @JakeHGuy
    @JakeHGuy 3 роки тому

    Thank you for making a video about the writing of adventure films. I feel like it is such an underserved genre now and I really miss it.

  • @buteamonosperma3327
    @buteamonosperma3327 3 роки тому

    Thankyou very much for sharing these Information

  • @kj01a
    @kj01a 3 роки тому

    This is very relevant to my current project!

  • @firiel2366
    @firiel2366 3 роки тому +1

    Somehow I didn't realize you had a podcast but I'm definitely following on Spotify now!

  • @ChaitanyaTrivedi98
    @ChaitanyaTrivedi98 3 роки тому +1

    I love main theme of the movie.
    Jack's quest for immortality.
    And how it fails in every movie and give Jack the realisation that immortality is a curse.
    In the end Jack is starting to realise values of this mortal life.

  • @juanp7873
    @juanp7873 3 роки тому

    You know it’s a good day when Lessons from the Screenplay uploads

  • @thegladys2651
    @thegladys2651 3 роки тому

    I love your contents. It is amazing :). AND, We cannot forget that Jack is an unconventional hero (very funny, charismatic, astute), but absolutely necessary for making a great adventure film.

  • @gabriellecarvalho2614
    @gabriellecarvalho2614 3 роки тому

    didn't get the notification for this one,, I'm pissed, it's one of my favourite trilogies.. great video as always

  • @wheeinitnow5823
    @wheeinitnow5823 3 роки тому +2

    One of my favourite channels analyzing one of my favourite movie's mastery and subversion of genre? The perfect morning coffee companion!

  • @romankatinas688
    @romankatinas688 3 роки тому +3

    When I watched a lot Filmento videos about "Pirates Of Caribbean", I was surprised that you had something to say about them. Love ya.

  • @shmeg8695
    @shmeg8695 3 роки тому +20

    People stay sleeping on the rest of the og trilogy tho 😴

  • @VegimorphtheMovieBoy
    @VegimorphtheMovieBoy 3 роки тому +4

    Currently writing a 1930s style adventure film so this is some great inspiration and motivation. Thanks a lot!

    • @elderlyoogway
      @elderlyoogway 7 місяців тому

      How it went?

    • @VegimorphtheMovieBoy
      @VegimorphtheMovieBoy 7 місяців тому

      @@elderlyoogway Have the first draft done. Got stuck on a few elements though so have to do a new outline to figure them out.

    • @elderlyoogway
      @elderlyoogway 7 місяців тому +1

      @@VegimorphtheMovieBoy you got this. If you ever publish it online tell us, that setting seems amazing

    • @VegimorphtheMovieBoy
      @VegimorphtheMovieBoy 7 місяців тому +1

      @@elderlyoogway Thanks! It'll be a feature adaptation of my thesis project from film school, which is currently on my channel, if you'd like to check it out.

    • @elderlyoogway
      @elderlyoogway 7 місяців тому

      @@VegimorphtheMovieBoy sure do!

  • @victorl7524
    @victorl7524 3 роки тому

    Nice video about the movie that was my favourite for a very very long time!

  • @user-zq9jc7zp9z
    @user-zq9jc7zp9z 3 роки тому

    My favorite movie for all times! I had really fell in love with the first trilogy when I was a child

  • @skillinp1388
    @skillinp1388 3 роки тому +12

    Are there any adventure films that don't have humor as an essential element? I feel that might be integral to adventure films as well.

    • @johannas3
      @johannas3 3 роки тому +3

      Master & Commander for example.

    • @alexanderh9642
      @alexanderh9642 3 роки тому +7

      I think part of what makes the adventure interesting to watch is that its fun. PotC without jokes would be a weird historical drama about pirates and aztec myths. Indiana Jones would be s super strange lecture about theology, morality, and fascism. Without humor, without fun, its a lot harder for people to want to go on a journey with you, especially as an audience

    • @skillinp1388
      @skillinp1388 3 роки тому +1

      @@johannas3 some humor, ie lesser of two weevils. Maybe this veers into historical drama? Or action adventure? Good point, though.

    • @duskflower8825
      @duskflower8825 3 роки тому

      @@johannas3 Master & Commander has a few excellent jokes plus just some good humor all around with the crew

  • @chicanohek
    @chicanohek 3 роки тому

    you inspired me to rewatch the movies!

  • @bryanthevery
    @bryanthevery 3 роки тому

    Great essay as always, poppet

  • @nazar112
    @nazar112 3 роки тому

    Cool stuff. Love it! Keep going, man! ;)

  • @anitaschafer567
    @anitaschafer567 3 роки тому +1

    You brought me to the idea to write a list of movies I have to show my future children 😍

  • @MadGravityStudios
    @MadGravityStudios 3 роки тому

    This movie really is a classic and y'all are right we don't really see adventure films anymore. Thanks for the tips and tricks of the trade.

  • @BrutalSnuggles
    @BrutalSnuggles 3 роки тому

    Man oh man, I sure do like your stuff. Thanks again for another great video!

  • @phillipgrande9147
    @phillipgrande9147 3 роки тому

    its been years and we still decoding how amazing this film is., I really hope they find the same magic they have for this coming new pirates film

  • @waltermanson999
    @waltermanson999 3 роки тому

    Amazing Video !

  • @machazychaz
    @machazychaz 3 роки тому

    Thank you, i was a little obsesed with the movie as a teen and this really made me very nostalgic

  • @dogmiagy
    @dogmiagy 3 роки тому

    Fantastic essay as always.
    Love from Portugal 🇵🇹

  • @darklegionnaire1
    @darklegionnaire1 3 роки тому

    i watched the first 3 POTC movies just last weekend, and currently on the way to finish AC:Black Flag... having a blast !

  • @jakethadley
    @jakethadley 3 роки тому +9

    Listening to all these points, would anyone else say Inception is a kind of adventure film? Quests to get his kids back, rescue Saito and reach the inner secrets of the Cillain Murphy's characters mind. The dark truth of what happened to the main characters wife. Journeys through and to many different locations. The secret at the heart of the subconscious realm. I think it sits as a kind of blend of adventure and heist movie having watched this video essay!

    • @fffianist
      @fffianist 3 роки тому +1

      Inception is a bit too serious to be a true adventure film imo

  • @AshtonGleckman
    @AshtonGleckman 3 роки тому +58

    Unpopular opinion: Pirates 3: At World's End is my favorite of the series

    • @asf5716
      @asf5716 3 роки тому +23

      That's not an opinion it's a fact, At World's End is your favorite

    • @malayscreen
      @malayscreen 3 роки тому +1

      yah world ends really the best of potc series !! period !!

    • @LessonsfromtheScreenplay
      @LessonsfromtheScreenplay  3 роки тому +45

      ...it's kind of mine too! But shh, don't tell anyone. The VFX and cinematography are just so amazing! -MT

    • @VectanProduction2
      @VectanProduction2 3 роки тому

      It's mine too 🙄😉

    • @AshtonGleckman
      @AshtonGleckman 3 роки тому +3

      @Lessons from the Screenplay don't forget about Hans Zimmer's score :)

  • @Turner1
    @Turner1 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks for doing this video, the first three Pirates movies are honestly phenomenal and the series is often overlooked because of 4 and 5’s missteps. I could watch about a billion videos dissecting the original three because I find it all so fun and fascinating. I write this as a sit next to the three PotC posters in my room, so I’m obviously a bit biased, but hey, what can ya do. Are we gonna see more Pirates on the channel??

  • @SomeoneJr
    @SomeoneJr 3 роки тому +4

    Spoilers ahead? Oh no I'm gonna have to go watch it again for the 36th time

  • @jardelelias5625
    @jardelelias5625 3 роки тому

    I love how most of, if not all of this, also applies perfectly to my favorite adventure movie, Back to the Future.

    • @Ruylopez778
      @Ruylopez778 3 роки тому

      AGBO channel (Russo Brothers Pizza Film School) did a breakdown with the screenwriter, if you're interested
      ua-cam.com/video/Pqw4bIwxukI/v-deo.html

  • @chloe1-2-3-4-5
    @chloe1-2-3-4-5 3 роки тому

    I'll never forget the feeling I had when I first saw this movie in the cinema. I think it's what made me love cinema!

  • @natirasohumana
    @natirasohumana 3 роки тому

    I will go down to my grave being a stan of the three first films, especially The Curse!