CS6 is legendary. Not only was it the last version you could own, it was the last version that didn't rely on cloud services for basic functions. It was so fast and didn't have to think or connect to a server with every click. The only way Adobe can redeem themselves is to create another photoshop app that people can own and use without cloud. At this point, free chat gpt is more powerful than $50 a month for photoshop.
I am *entirely* in agreement that Adobe needs to come up with an ownership option. I’m increasingly convinced that its current subscription-only model does not work for a large segment of what were once loyal customers.
@@dekeNow The whole AI debacle alienated even independent Adobe evangelists. Many of us are already fearful that AI will put us out of work. The 'faceless corporation' manner in which Adobe dealt with our concerns magnified that. It was a dumb, underhanded, ham-fisted move. It's backfired for them, forcing people to finally get off their butts and seriously look for alternatives, which while still not in Adobe's league, are _slowly_ catching up. Adobe is in no danger of total replacement right now, but I suspect the attrition has just seriously escalated. Whether that will hurt Adobe's bottom line in the long run? I guess we'll see. I'd observe Blender proved that an open-source model can actually produce a professional program. It was sneered at by Maya & MAX users who are now no longer laughing, despite those programs still retaining dominance. It's now appearing in pro pipelines. If an open-source alternative got the kind of backing Blender now has, Photoshop would be in serious trouble, and actually that would be a good thing for the company. Adobe needs real competition to bring it back.
I think Adobe could benefit from offering a buy-once-use-forever option. You get to use a version frozen in time, no updates, no online features (no cloud, no AI). Microsoft sells Office 365 this way. I do believe subscription model is better (because I remember how insanely expensive CS was back in the day, and that everyone whining “subscription bad” was likely pirating it in those times). But the backlash against it is so big, so maybe there is a room to reconsider.
It's more than just cost, it's losing access to a lifetime of work when the sub ends. Digital Protection Racket is a phrase that comes to mind. That aside subscription models are a breeding ground for complacency. The best innovations are coming from third parties while the best Adobe can do is half-assed "AI" integrations that bloat the platform even further and, oh yes...steal your work.
The only thing that holds back CS6 is the fact that newer Camera RAW versions do not support it. So no support for my Sony camera raw files :/ I'm converting them to tiff instead as I've read its basically as close to RAW as possible.
I should do a video on my using Photoshop 6 ... personally I was happiest with that version and was using it till very recently. Photoshop 2024 is fine but for most of the features, I probably use much the same as I did with version 6. Never use the AI stuff at all (unless I don't realise it and it is part of the function). Still got all of Creative Suite 5 active, it is fine as well on windows 11. Also great for filters that no longer work
a Time when Adobe made some of the best most stable image editing tools ever. I've extremely fond memories of this amazing package and although great improvements have happened, there was something extraordinary about Adobe CS6 that just doesn't resonate in today's versions.
@@dekeNowit is a time of bygones and always enjoyed your tutorials back in the day covering the wonderful world of Adobe CS6, some of the best video training to have been done back then 🍻
I still use PS CS6 everyday. I tried the new one but it didn't do anything that I actually needed. Affinity Photo is also great, and also buy-it-and-done.
Back when they really had to innovate to make sure people jump from one version of CS to the next one. I left Adobe PS on 2016 and moved to Affinity. Can't say I miss it.
PS CS6 was truly great! It took 10+ Years to finally add some (AI) features that makes a difference to me. Until then, I could have done all my Jobs in good old CS6 Photoshop. But even the new Feattures I can substitute with other Software like Krita (with its own AI Plugin)
That illustration takes Us back. #Lynda If only CS6 had Directional Blur and a scalable interface. It is *so fast* on even relatively modern hardware. Ditto Illustrator.
Yes, there were a lot of real developments between CS5 and CS6 werent there. To me the main development since then (some curiously implemented Ai features aside) seems to have been taking a huge stack of annual revenue and re-distributing it from software development - into other stuff. Over the years, certain people have steered Adobe further towards commercialism at all costs. Unfortunately the most recent "cost" incurred - was the companies reputation. Which will need to be rebuilt, hopefully that's a focus. I think Photoshop will remain strong for a few more years, thanks to its sheer power and scope-unless they decide to take a nuclear bomb to the feature set, (Remember Photoshop Elements) - Which really will decimate their reputation.
Ay, there’s the rub! If you let your subscription lag or lost the serial number or if your number has been compromised, it is *really* a nightmare to get it back. Adobe has actively shut down a lot of loopholes.
@@dekeNow I had CS6 that I used for years and paid through the nose for, but suddenly one day Adobe decided to block it. No explanation, and it was a nightmare to get unblocked!
Good old days when Photoshop was doing everything very well - still not hit by the AI accident. Obviously AI was brain damaged from birth and is now degrading everything with its almost satisfying results. Obviously it is a very slow learning and resource demanding concept, still mostly functioning as a sales argument.
CS6 is legendary. Not only was it the last version you could own, it was the last version that didn't rely on cloud services for basic functions. It was so fast and didn't have to think or connect to a server with every click. The only way Adobe can redeem themselves is to create another photoshop app that people can own and use without cloud. At this point, free chat gpt is more powerful than $50 a month for photoshop.
I am *entirely* in agreement that Adobe needs to come up with an ownership option. I’m increasingly convinced that its current subscription-only model does not work for a large segment of what were once loyal customers.
@@dekeNow The whole AI debacle alienated even independent Adobe evangelists. Many of us are already fearful that AI will put us out of work. The 'faceless corporation' manner in which Adobe dealt with our concerns magnified that. It was a dumb, underhanded, ham-fisted move.
It's backfired for them, forcing people to finally get off their butts and seriously look for alternatives, which while still not in Adobe's league, are _slowly_ catching up. Adobe is in no danger of total replacement right now, but I suspect the attrition has just seriously escalated.
Whether that will hurt Adobe's bottom line in the long run? I guess we'll see.
I'd observe Blender proved that an open-source model can actually produce a professional program. It was sneered at by Maya & MAX users who are now no longer laughing, despite those programs still retaining dominance. It's now appearing in pro pipelines.
If an open-source alternative got the kind of backing Blender now has, Photoshop would be in serious trouble, and actually that would be a good thing for the company. Adobe needs real competition to bring it back.
@@involutionOcean Speaking of opensource, look for me showing GIMP in an upcoming week!
@@dekeNow Will do Deke, thanks. I pretty much learned Photoshop using your tutorials, many moons ago! Some of the best out there.
@@involutionOcean Thx!
CS6 is still an amazing app. It's my daily work horse. Thanks for this, Deke.
Awesome!
I keep CS6 on my computer as a PS back up. It works just fine and still connects to all the third party filters. Great program!
Amazing!
I think Adobe could benefit from offering a buy-once-use-forever option. You get to use a version frozen in time, no updates, no online features (no cloud, no AI). Microsoft sells Office 365 this way.
I do believe subscription model is better (because I remember how insanely expensive CS was back in the day, and that everyone whining “subscription bad” was likely pirating it in those times). But the backlash against it is so big, so maybe there is a room to reconsider.
It's more than just cost, it's losing access to a lifetime of work when the sub ends. Digital Protection Racket is a phrase that comes to mind. That aside subscription models are a breeding ground for complacency. The best innovations are coming from third parties while the best Adobe can do is half-assed "AI" integrations that bloat the platform even further and, oh yes...steal your work.
I have no inside knowledge, but Adobe has to be consider something along these lines. Cracks are showing.
The only thing that holds back CS6 is the fact that newer Camera RAW versions do not support it. So no support for my Sony camera raw files :/ I'm converting them to tiff instead as I've read its basically as close to RAW as possible.
That is a very good point. Camera technology marches on. 16-bit/channel TIFF, yes? Not the same, but be sure to give yourself that latitude!
I should do a video on my using Photoshop 6 ... personally I was happiest with that version and was using it till very recently. Photoshop 2024 is fine but for most of the features, I probably use much the same as I did with version 6. Never use the AI stuff at all (unless I don't realise it and it is part of the function). Still got all of Creative Suite 5 active, it is fine as well on windows 11. Also great for filters that no longer work
I have 5 or 6 on an old Mac somewhere, it AMAZES me how quickly the app opens, like 2-3 seconds. Same w/ AI ad Ind, blazing fast.
Yep, old software love that new hardware 😁
@@dekeNow True that. Good seeing your name again, I remember your association w/ all things Pshop from way back when.
a Time when Adobe made some of the best most stable image editing tools ever. I've extremely fond memories of this amazing package and although great improvements have happened, there was something extraordinary about Adobe CS6 that just doesn't resonate in today's versions.
My feelings exactly
@@dekeNowit is a time of bygones and always enjoyed your tutorials back in the day covering the wonderful world of Adobe CS6, some of the best video training to have been done back then 🍻
@@Flashback-Gamer Thank you!
very cool throwback deke
Thx!
I wish they would have updated it to support 4k+ resolutions.
I still use PS CS6 everyday. I tried the new one but it didn't do anything that I actually needed. Affinity Photo is also great, and also buy-it-and-done.
Back when they really had to innovate to make sure people jump from one version of CS to the next one. I left Adobe PS on 2016 and moved to Affinity. Can't say I miss it.
Still have and use my CS6
PS CS6 was truly great! It took 10+ Years to finally add some (AI) features that makes a difference to me. Until then, I could have done all my Jobs in good old CS6 Photoshop. But even the new Feattures I can substitute with other Software like Krita (with its own AI Plugin)
That illustration takes Us back.
#Lynda
If only CS6 had Directional Blur and a scalable interface. It is *so fast* on even relatively modern hardware. Ditto Illustrator.
The itty bitty interface is a drag. And thanks!
CS6 was the place where Photoshop was loved the most
Alas, it might be true
I still use CS6 + Affinity Photo 👍😃
Can't Affinity Photo completely replace CS6?
Best of both!
@@CBM64 Well, Affinity hasn’t stepped up with a decent Color Range, which is a Ps 3 feature. So there’s still plenty of room for improvement.
It’s kinda crazy to see how little the UI has changed since then, it’s basically exactly the same 😅
Yeah, it takes a moment or two to notice anything is missing 😁
still have cs5 on my old power mac!
You still use your Power Mac?!
Where is this avaialble?
Unless you have a valid serial number from the olden days that you took the time the register with Adobe, it really isn’t.
Generative Fill itself is worth the monthly for my client work
Have to admit, I use it daily.
What OS will it run on?
In the video, I’m using Windows 10. And it runs on Rosetta on the Mac.
Yes, there were a lot of real developments between CS5 and CS6 werent there. To me the main development since then (some curiously implemented Ai features aside) seems to have been taking a huge stack of annual revenue and re-distributing it from software development - into other stuff. Over the years, certain people have steered Adobe further towards commercialism at all costs. Unfortunately the most recent "cost" incurred - was the companies reputation. Which will need to be rebuilt, hopefully that's a focus.
I think Photoshop will remain strong for a few more years, thanks to its sheer power and scope-unless they decide to take a nuclear bomb to the feature set, (Remember Photoshop Elements) - Which really will decimate their reputation.
i never left 6 hehehe. didnt need any of the new tools
Smart, real smart!
Time to teleport into the 21st century… not sure you noticed but the century is already 25% up…
😂
I wish I could find a legit CS6 somewhere!
Ay, there’s the rub! If you let your subscription lag or lost the serial number or if your number has been compromised, it is *really* a nightmare to get it back. Adobe has actively shut down a lot of loopholes.
@@dekeNow I had CS6 that I used for years and paid through the nose for, but suddenly one day Adobe decided to block it. No explanation, and it was a nightmare to get unblocked!
@@Mary-gz1qw So weird, sorry to heard that.
@@dekeNow Apparently, I'm not the only one this happened to.
I was a photoshop user until I tried Affinity photo, now ps is dead 4 me.
Good old days when Photoshop was doing everything very well - still not hit by the AI accident. Obviously AI was brain damaged from birth and is now degrading everything with its almost satisfying results. Obviously it is a very slow learning and resource demanding concept, still mostly functioning as a sales argument.
What AII still lacks is imagination. Also, we need to be able to better direct it. Result A doesn’t quite work for me; try adding B and C.
Adobe employee here: CS6 is actually much more stable than CC which is full of broken crap! Delete CC and go torrent CS6!!!
I staerted using Phtoshop in 1993 and I refused to subscribe. Viva Affinity.
Well, there you go!
To hell with Adobe.