Space Station 13: Checkers the Xeno-hybrid monstrosity

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  • Опубліковано 16 лис 2024

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  • @bigbubbles6456
    @bigbubbles6456 7 років тому +508

    I was Larva 711, than the runner. Who prayed for the admins to spare your life. It was a bloody weird round. Than I died giving you up to the marines. What a way to go out.

    • @lyranrenegade
      @lyranrenegade 6 років тому +66

      awesome chain of events, very enjoyable!

    • @tyxfit
      @tyxfit 5 років тому +49

      You started this great round hahaha.

    • @lechking941
      @lechking941 4 роки тому +15

      bth this hads that cute and sad moment as i just got to your death

    • @captainatlanta
      @captainatlanta 3 роки тому +1

      R4r

    • @hamtsammich
      @hamtsammich 2 роки тому +4

      bless you

  • @nectartyrant1390
    @nectartyrant1390 6 років тому +309

    "This'll be a short round"

  • @DeonGaming
    @DeonGaming 7 років тому +219

    33:13
    Randolph P. Checkers: "Shaaaake?"
    Gordon Kratzer starts shaking uncontrollably!
    Man, I died :D

  • @Varpushaukka82
    @Varpushaukka82 6 років тому +152

    Human species is much more gruelsome than xenomoprhs, giving a cigarette without lighter. Thats just brutal.

  • @Nachotaco101
    @Nachotaco101 6 років тому +76

    Sometimes as an admin you just gotta interfere with the natural events of things
    Keeps it interesting

  • @Hedhnter
    @Hedhnter 6 років тому +95

    The aliens were all so accommodating. Clearly you chose the right side.

    • @theblackpantslegion
      @theblackpantslegion  6 років тому +32

      Quite true

    • @roninnozlo9544
      @roninnozlo9544 3 роки тому +13

      human researches incarcerating the new anomaly that has actual thoughts and emotions and isn’t just a cool rock
      vs
      friendly and accepting xenos

  • @Agora2021
    @Agora2021 7 років тому +85

    I finally lost it at 58:15 when you started dropping alien weeds. Those admins were great.

  • @leotoxkraytory1732
    @leotoxkraytory1732 4 роки тому +48

    Command Anouncement: "So...Checkers is comming to get us and murder the CL."
    Irene Rockfelt: "I dare Checkers to."
    Emergency Speakers: "Dropship on collision course! Crash imminent!"
    There are way too many good parts in this round but this one was a real "Oh fuuuuck." moment.

  • @Hacker_lyx
    @Hacker_lyx 6 років тому +53

    This could be turned into a 3 part Mini-series on Sci-Fi, so much character development. Between you and the Xenos, Splitting ties with W-Y and then the ending. It was a full story jesus, I'd turn it into a book. if'n I could write good.

  • @Mic15000
    @Mic15000 7 років тому +258

    That was Hilarious, also the admins in this servers are really committed and good. It just gives a positive vibe.

    • @yuripantyhose4973
      @yuripantyhose4973 5 років тому

      what server?

    • @predator3299
      @predator3299 5 років тому +8

      @@yuripantyhose4973 Colonial Marines. Based on the Aliens universe. It's very PVP based if you want to practice being robust.

    • @warp_scribe
      @warp_scribe 4 роки тому +5

      I miss the days when the admins would actually interact with the playerbase like this

    • @LowRes_Corgi56
      @LowRes_Corgi56 4 роки тому

      I miss the days COs wouldn't shoot random marines in the head for throwing a flare at them

    • @User-gk1yi
      @User-gk1yi 3 роки тому +1

      This comment has aged like rancid milk.

  • @maximummaddieness8234
    @maximummaddieness8234 7 років тому +130

    Tex, I cannot believe you got out of MULTIPLE ALIENS CHASING YOU!

    • @UltimateCarl
      @UltimateCarl 6 років тому +21

      I live the 3rd shift life so I'm usually playing during lowpop, but still... I have never seen that many aliens chase down one survivor, especially that early in the round!

  • @Alygness
    @Alygness 7 років тому +193

    The admins were obviously having as much fun as tex lmao

    • @DIEGhostfish
      @DIEGhostfish 4 роки тому +6

      Sad that they made him ditch the ID.

  • @DarthTellor
    @DarthTellor 7 років тому +75

    2:58:56
    That Elite Boiler shouting to that human *"You! Help!"* and later them Xenos smacking him dark back alley style was the most hilarious shit.
    This was glorious!

    • @DarthTellor
      @DarthTellor 7 років тому +21

      When I heard that off-screen *SMACK!* sound I lost my shit

    • @dantesherman7924
      @dantesherman7924 Рік тому +1

      I'll to watch again and see I can't catch that.

  • @Silver-Rexy
    @Silver-Rexy 6 років тому +108

    The part where you and a few xenos confronted the CO in front of his room was really movie-esque. Good job lasting till the end with all that crazy shit happening.

  • @TheWisdomcube2000
    @TheWisdomcube2000 7 років тому +187

    Had me glued to my screen for 3 hours Mr. Tex. Even had all the drama and plot twists needed for a good movie. Gotta also give credit to the admins for this one. Great work.

    • @theblackpantslegion
      @theblackpantslegion  7 років тому +49

      they certainly have fun on CM.

    • @KaosKontrol92
      @KaosKontrol92 5 років тому +9

      They should add Xeno-Hybrids to the game at a low chance event

  • @japak1216
    @japak1216 7 років тому +65

    I love you you basically went from a fool survivor to a xenos prophet. What a wild ride.

  • @Kirkmaximus
    @Kirkmaximus 5 років тому +28

    This is a masterpiece!
    Tex kept his cool though out all the madness.
    10/10 more dramatic and comical than most Hollywood movies of today.
    Thank you!

  • @XxTaiMTxX
    @XxTaiMTxX 7 років тому +144

    ...I was seriously just going to put you on as background noise while I went to bed. Cue hearing you talk about trying to make friends with the aliens. I got up to see if they'd interact with you at all. Cue three hours later, and what a wild ride that was. Xeno Prophet. I dunno where they got that idea, but it was awesome. I wondered if maybe the Admins were going to let you infect the ship and then you got ejected.
    It was seriously sad when you were telling the Xenos to let you die and they were your family. Even more sad when they expended so much effort just to try to SAVE you. Most of them even dying while trying to do so.
    It was an amazing ride. Probably the best round I've ever seen you play. Where the silliness just kind of played into the whole round and wasn't this broken piece of the serious round. It was really fantastic, Tex.
    Sometimes, everyone's roleplay just comes together like that. Everyone just takes the strange-ness and rolls with it.

    • @theblackpantslegion
      @theblackpantslegion  7 років тому +36

      Its how you got to play the game. Work with that you got, and see what happens next.

    • @olivergottkehaskamp3369
      @olivergottkehaskamp3369 4 роки тому +6

      @@theblackpantslegion *clicks on video, sees it's three friggin hours long.* Whoa wait, what ... as if I'm gonna sit through that! *three hours later* Welp, that was one hell of a ride .. Well played! Literally!! 👏🏼

  • @93Flowrider
    @93Flowrider 7 років тому +35

    Man this video gives me hope for future admin-interactions. I had two "conversations" with admins up until now. One was a guy answering a question about an in-game mechanic, the other was a fucking prison-style interrogation after a misunderstanding and a newbie mistake on my part, both IC and OOC.
    Nice to see that there is no Stanford-prison type relationship between admins and players on every server.

  • @ILoveWH40k
    @ILoveWH40k 5 років тому +32

    Tex goes from terrified colonist too derpy kerrigan.

  • @NuniaBiznaz
    @NuniaBiznaz 6 років тому +43

    This reminds me of this one game where a bunch of survivors were worshipping the xenos, and the xenos used them to help barricade certain areas and kill or capture the marines, and they tried to convert and/or infect other survivors.I watched a bunch of cultists gather around these 2 hosts they dragged in and talk to them, and one of them blew her brains out.It was fun, and we called them "bluepawns" because all the cultists wore blue and some xenos still killed a few despite us telling them not to

  • @no1important777
    @no1important777 5 років тому +62

    Alien cuddles.
    Pats alien.
    Alien spews acid.
    your *groin* hurts badly.
    friendship turns to procreation.

  • @slyfox43
    @slyfox43 7 років тому +75

    I feel like this is what Aliens Covenants should of been instead of what we got. Seriously I would happily sit through three hours of this again of the amazing stuff you and the SS13 community do.

  • @TheeOK1
    @TheeOK1 7 років тому +28

    This needs to be like an event, like a christmas thing, where all the aliens and humans get along -until that one chucklefuck pisses someone off and the aliens rip everyone apart- .

  • @casel002
    @casel002 7 років тому +26

    Glorious Mr. Checkers. Simply Glorious.A shame you couldn't give the commander his Mateba back. I'm sure he would have appreciated the sentiment, and made his final moments with you all the more.....memorable.

  • @bigguygamer733
    @bigguygamer733 4 роки тому +10

    They should actually incorporate the Hybrid thing into the server for the admins to reward good or funny players to spice up rounds. Actually integrate it as a feature, to prevent huggers and help aliens avoid friendly fire by highlighting you as friendly like they do with freedom and loyalty implants.

  • @HangmanVa
    @HangmanVa 6 років тому +41

    Man, this sci-fi remake of Dances With Wolves is really neat.

  • @nocturnGER
    @nocturnGER 6 років тому +21

    This must be my favorite round of Space Station 13 you ever played. From low alien breeding ground to beloved hybrid jesus

  • @wedoitlive1
    @wedoitlive1 5 років тому +26

    None of this would have happened if they just gave him his coffee, smokes, and a lighter when he asked them to

  • @philipandersen2989
    @philipandersen2989 7 років тому +8

    I caught Randolph as the Queen a couple days ago. He was part of Alpha and they were attacking Lambda. I went in for a screech and backed the fuck out after I missed a buncha people and they started blasting me. Crushers and ravagers dived in to cover me and I dragged him back with me before I realized who I caught and said hello.

  • @myrsta5764
    @myrsta5764 7 років тому +18

    This was a great watch. Some really stellar RP on your part, and the admin interaction was so fun.
    I don't think I've watched any other 3 hour video on youtube before, but this one was well worth it.

  • @sophiaorr12
    @sophiaorr12 5 років тому +13

    That was pretty unreal and a very enjoyable 3 hours, and it's likely something that one might never see again. Bravo Tex. that was utterly beautiful

  • @phoebelovesYOU
    @phoebelovesYOU 5 років тому +20

    Well, if there's one thing I learnt today, it's to never underestimate the power of friendship.

  • @crusaderoftruth6598
    @crusaderoftruth6598 7 років тому +12

    Wow. That was, without a doubt, the best episode of Spess I've ever seen. An emotional rollercoaster, an action packed masterpiece. It makes me want to redownload BYOND. Damn fine round, Blackpants, damn fine.

  • @Vesdus
    @Vesdus 6 років тому +30

    Why don't they have survivors play as the chestbursters that kill them? Would it really be that hard to program?

  • @IOA21
    @IOA21 4 роки тому +6

    Truely one of the best rounds of Colonial Marines I've ever seen, it was truely cinematic worthy of an Alien's spinoff.

  • @kabced
    @kabced 7 років тому +12

    What a round to have missed. That was an awesome watch.

  • @Gobi_Ness
    @Gobi_Ness 6 років тому +34

    You could try mating with queen , you know for servivel.

  • @AlexFrost39
    @AlexFrost39 7 років тому +18

    "You know you play too much Cm when you can sing this" hahaha true
    Great video by the way. Really enjoy your narration!

    • @Ami-vh7sr
      @Ami-vh7sr 5 років тому

      funny thing is that Song is from Starship Troopers 3.......

  • @williamebel4763
    @williamebel4763 4 роки тому +2

    this has to be one of the best episodes of this channel. Thanks to everybody envolved. Amazing! This really made my day.

  • @VarenRoth
    @VarenRoth 6 років тому +6

    This was the most amazing SS13-related content I've ever seen. Great job at keeping it interesting.

  • @Nomis90000
    @Nomis90000 6 років тому +5

    The drama! Loved "Stiffy's" exit.

  • @johnlassak55
    @johnlassak55 2 місяці тому

    I remember watching this video years ago, and I still think about it often. Im glad i watched it again.This has to be one of the funniest videos I've seen. I'm glad you're still uploading. Thank you for being you.

  • @jerzymike5564
    @jerzymike5564 4 роки тому +2

    The admins must love you, Tex! One of the best rounds I've watched!!!

  • @havoc3742
    @havoc3742 5 років тому +3

    the Beretta as it stands now is fine, the problem was the first batch's barrels were stress tested for much lower pressures than the Military was putting on them, because they put ++P ammo in it or something. point is, Ammo was loaded really hot and shortened the life span of the barrels which lead to failures. hence the reputation. the military fixed this by, making the barrels stronger or something.

  • @pigeondamigion569
    @pigeondamigion569 6 років тому +23

    8:55 Could'nt have been more wrong.

  • @williamking331
    @williamking331 Рік тому +1

    I just love they idea of you being a walking, talking, smoking, corpus in a dark room who's slowing going mad, creepy and sinister.

  • @Ihasanart
    @Ihasanart 4 роки тому +4

    Slowly getting through the backlog, loving every moment
    RE; Beretta's checkered history with the 92 series, theres a declassified report floating around the archives of the net from the first trials with the first production batches that the SEAL teams received to test, its just page after page of "Date X/Y/Z, Gun #X, slide cracked in half, hit operator in face, broken cheekbone injury" and other failures, the first batch and a half had seriously bad metallurgy which was cracking and shattering less than a thousand rounds in on the guns with standard 124gn Nato spec Ball 9mm, and significantly less with the +P subgun rounds they liked to use, that Beretta said the gun could handle, hence why NSWC Crane researched a bunch of fixes including the completely enclosed 'Dolphin' slides.
    Anything made from the early-mid 90's and onwards are well built quality gats, before that, it was hit or miss with the rate they were producing them, didn't have the time to test the steel and heat treat during QC before they left the factory.

  • @eoftar3192
    @eoftar3192 3 роки тому

    If only new movies had a story this good. Not just Alien... all of the new movies.
    Bravo, Tex! I love you, you beautiful monster!

  • @GhostMaker00
    @GhostMaker00 2 місяці тому

    That clip is fire.
    I played a 6 hour round on SS14 reminded me of this

  • @trenthawkins
    @trenthawkins 3 роки тому +1

    maybe I'm just High, but everything got REALLY hilarious after the 37min mark.

  • @hamtsammich
    @hamtsammich 2 роки тому

    as cool as it was they let you be a "hybrid", it's only cool because you got the personality to make it WORK.
    you and the russ station dude are making me want to learn how to play this game.

  • @atc_wro
    @atc_wro Рік тому

    Without exaggeration, this was more captivating than most fiction plot i've ever read, from the beggining to the end. I think RP games like that are really the best place for creative stories and events, since they happen organically. Btw, i've just learned about this game today, but i've never been so intrigued by any other RP games, since most popular games to RP on are based on more accessible stuff, like GTAV, or Garry's Mod, It's quite bizzare seeing what looks like a game from an early 2000s, being specifically designed to roleplay, I mean the game is chat-based, It's just a bresh of fresh air after watching other RP content out there.

  • @shrooble
    @shrooble 7 років тому +3

    Survivor is one my favorite CM roles, It's one of the most freeing but it's at the cost of being alone, unfortunately your survival depends on a lot of luck even if you hide in a locker for 20-40 minutes.
    The problem with the survivor role is that you are given so little power it's up to other players to decide on whether or not you will live or die
    (the result is usually death for you, in the most boring un-fun way possible).
    There is still a lot of potential in the role, for example, the most fun i'v ever had in CM are the rounds when I somehow befriend the queen/aliens and sabotage the marines.

  • @guildardaze1438
    @guildardaze1438 5 років тому +2

    0:26 *salutes proudly his back straight* TROOPERS. TO ACTION! FOR CARGONIA

  • @nocomment9532
    @nocomment9532 5 років тому +6

    "i found them very fun to use"
    I'm not sure that orphanage you slaughtered had the same opinion...

  • @waaghghazghkull6362
    @waaghghazghkull6362 4 роки тому

    This episode is the main reason why I like ss13 and the ability to roleplay your way into anything if you try hard enough and have others go along with it.

  • @SatansPooper
    @SatansPooper 5 років тому +2

    This turns into some bloody Heart of Darkness stuff here Tex. Good work man.

  • @Varnockthe1st
    @Varnockthe1st 5 років тому +2

    This was a magical adventure, I thank you and your chocolaty voice for existing.

  • @DatGitGhaz
    @DatGitGhaz 7 років тому

    I don't even really play SS13 anymore but it's still nice to watch your videos now and then Tex. Good stuff

  • @Gaark
    @Gaark 4 роки тому

    What a goddamn epic round, this should be written into a movie from Checkers perspective and be great!

  • @moldiworp9143
    @moldiworp9143 3 роки тому

    Its nearly dawn. Why do i find you more entertaining than most tv? Good job

  • @insertunfunnyjoke3729
    @insertunfunnyjoke3729 4 роки тому +4

    My absolute favorite line. "What are you going to do shoot me? You already did."

  • @OUTFXD
    @OUTFXD 3 роки тому +1

    When the Marines where falling back and W-Y was talking in chat trying to "rescue" you, You totally should have lead them into an ambush. "Oh yeah.... Im uh, over here. No aliens around here guys! Really! Would I lie?"

  • @FlyingWithSpurts
    @FlyingWithSpurts 2 місяці тому

    This was the ultimate "yes, and..." round!

  • @Ranluinar
    @Ranluinar 3 роки тому +2

    Very much so a necro post I suppose.. Not even sure if anyone would ever check this, but I'd always wanted to play Space Station 13. It just has such a rough start to things.. and it seems like no one is very willing to suffer a newb to the game. Not to mention that when you start, you're essentially going to remain a newb for quite some time, because it takes SO MUCH to learn even a little about each of the roles you can do in a game
    My first round ever I was met with someone who at first came off as nice, but very quickly got upset with me and started looking for a reason to leave me on my own.. I then also got yelled at by an admin for correcting a spelling error in what I had to say.. and also got in trouble because my mouse apparently did something odd and was clicking really fast at times, due to the contact points being rather rough, and I got accused of using a speed clicker...
    Tried playing on several different stations and just always felt like no one wanted to help me learn anything

  • @nocturnGER
    @nocturnGER 4 роки тому

    Still my all time favorite of Tex' videos. From doomed colonist to beloved xeno-messiah in one day! Blessed be the Beautiful Checkers...

  • @SkrapMetal84
    @SkrapMetal84 4 роки тому +2

    better than alien resurrection thats for damn sure.

  • @Jade_The_Peryton
    @Jade_The_Peryton 6 років тому +8

    this was absolutely beautiful, also i swear despite Starship troopers 3 being a shit movie the song was at least decent.

  • @bapldap3324
    @bapldap3324 7 років тому +2

    This is the only unedited round of ss13 ive ever watched

  • @T-74
    @T-74 5 років тому +2

    This type of shit should be hosted more often
    A sickness that slowly turns you into a Xenomorph dispenser that also dispenses poisonous gas in a small area

  • @tron121
    @tron121 5 років тому +2

    i really enjoyed this one. bravo admin, bravo tex for you excellent RP.

  • @Corypheuss
    @Corypheuss 4 роки тому +1

    I would pay any amount of money to see these conversations animated.

  • @Archangelm127
    @Archangelm127 Рік тому

    "Dances With Xenos," starring Randolph P. Checkers, Esq. 🤣

  • @pooface1041
    @pooface1041 2 роки тому +1

    SOMEONE GET THIS XENOMORPH A LIGHT ALREADY

  • @slapdashlabs9163
    @slapdashlabs9163 5 років тому +6

    I am sitting here at one am crying over a 2d space man game checkers you. Have talent I don't know if you can really teach it to some one but I would love for you to try

  • @LordZaxom
    @LordZaxom 6 років тому +4

    Gotta appreciate any benny hill chase sequence.

  • @BirdRaiserE
    @BirdRaiserE 5 років тому +1

    10/10
    Fabulous roleplaying

  • @knighttemplaroftentacult7123
    @knighttemplaroftentacult7123 2 роки тому

    Hooooooly Cow on Heaven... That was... Incredible show. Great RP! And surprisingly kind xenomorphs. Humans are jerks, but that is about to be expected anyway...

  • @DarthTellor
    @DarthTellor 7 років тому +7

    There is not much *surviving* for the *survivor*.

    • @DarthTellor
      @DarthTellor 7 років тому +5

      I guess survivors are for Xeno players that want to play human for few minutes.

  • @StoneislandYT
    @StoneislandYT 5 років тому +1

    Really didn’t expect to watch this all the way through tbh.

  • @ilustranae
    @ilustranae 7 років тому +4

    this is precious..

  • @chrise2621
    @chrise2621 3 роки тому

    The issues with the 92FS stemmed from poor ammo QC. They modified many of the early guns with an extra lug to catch the slide if it blew up, all at taxpayer expense of course.

  • @scottyjoe6966
    @scottyjoe6966 4 роки тому

    This is my third time listening to this. Still awesome in my book.

  • @thundersoul6795
    @thundersoul6795 5 років тому +1

    Alt title: "Checkers' Mind". Kinda has the same vibe with constant complaining(with varying levels of wit) about quality of life, surroundings, situation, and about not getting a thing he could really use right about now. Pretty much the only differences are that he's in a more bizarre situation, enjoys a way bigger amount of Administratum-issued Plot Armor to allow it, and unlike HL protags he's quite vocal, allowing the situation to get even more bizarre.

    • @gorionus9812
      @gorionus9812 4 роки тому

      This is ... one of the best comments i have seen.

  • @KaosKontrol92
    @KaosKontrol92 5 років тому

    I don't know why I'm putting this here, but whatever: Custom Beretta 92FSs were the standard issue for S.T.A.R.S. in Resident Evil. Jill uses one in 1 and 3 (Chris used one in 1 too IIRC).

  • @turkeygod6665
    @turkeygod6665 7 років тому +2

    This is the best thing....ever

  • @psydocthepsyduck8382
    @psydocthepsyduck8382 2 роки тому +1

    Still my favourite episode

  • @Arthreas
    @Arthreas 5 років тому

    This is fucking amazing I wish something like this would happen in your new videos

    • @theblackpantslegion
      @theblackpantslegion  5 років тому

      you can't script these moments, they happen when they happen.

  • @earthpunk9848
    @earthpunk9848 6 років тому +1

    Fell asleep watching this last night.. finished the rest today. This shit was hilarious.

  • @sage84
    @sage84 5 років тому +1

    What a round. Damn.

  • @feetmusk
    @feetmusk 7 років тому +115

    Damn. _3_ _HOURS_ of SS13?
    A gift from god, perhaps?

    • @Mic15000
      @Mic15000 7 років тому +18

      From the *prophet*

    • @theblackpantslegion
      @theblackpantslegion  7 років тому +40

      Some people actually hate the long-play. Messages I get often include "Who even watches this" and "Why not edit your videos" and "This is why you're a small channel". Amusing food for thought.

    • @feetmusk
      @feetmusk 7 років тому +14

      BlackPantsLegion Weird.
      The longer the length of SS13, the more happiness I experience.

    • @Kirutin
      @Kirutin 7 років тому +6

      How cares about "small channels", as long as your doing this fun stuff and geting Positive feedback it is worth more than having many People watching and just being Assholes and bitching around. Please never stop doing you SS13 Stuff Tex. Love too Watch every singel Episode. And sorry for the bad Englisch. ^^

    • @TheeOK1
      @TheeOK1 7 років тому +2

      I have mixed feelings about it. It depends on stuff happening or if there's fluff for me.

  • @SalDarkSeed
    @SalDarkSeed 6 років тому +1

    Best 3 Hours of my life. I can die happy now!!!

  • @christianl3314
    @christianl3314 4 роки тому

    HOLY SHIT this was your funniest video ive seen yet!

  • @emwhyte
    @emwhyte 5 років тому

    langston & wilson combat berettas are VERY cool. I have a Beretta 92 brigadier elite II that is also pretty legit. No lighter, brutal SOB's lol.

  • @DLPChris
    @DLPChris 5 років тому

    Okay, so I was already interested in this game, having watched several of these videos, but now I'm in. I'm fucking in.

  • @dennisthompson7921
    @dennisthompson7921 5 років тому +1

    Three fkin hours, but AWESOME!

  • @Psiloable
    @Psiloable 6 років тому +1

    Hah! Left the suit beacon on and got bombarded right away.

  • @jakeparkinson7695
    @jakeparkinson7695 5 років тому +1

    Whats funny is hybrids are cannon in the alien universe so... This probably happened at some point in the future.

  • @SioxGreyWolf
    @SioxGreyWolf 5 років тому

    I have managed to pull out a few times, and it can be quite satisifying to get out, or at least grab the radio and yell out info to the peeps, once got myself (Nearly) saved when I was able to get them directly there.