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HUGE TAX INCREASE | Game-Changing News | New Company Car Tax on Pickup Trucks
This will change the face of pickup trucks in the UK and seems like terrible news for the likes of Ford and Isuzu.
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Sick of being robbed in this country
Same here mate
I agree mate they are starting to take the p*ss
Uk is a low tax economy.
Try living in Europe where tax is much higher.
Try living in Spain 😢
I’m actually used to it by now which is a sad state of affairs
Tax tax TAX TAX TAX TAX AND THEN TAX THE TAX
Yep, you get taxed on it though
Rumour has it "they" are trying to figure out how " they" can tax the air we breathe.
The arse is about to drop off the UK pickup market....
Yep
Electric pickup is about as much use as a chocolate fireguard
@@davewright9312 Rivian, F150 Lightning and Cybertruck are all pretty awesome. The Maxus isn’t.
Hope so. I will pick one up privately at a steal.
@@DefinitelyNotAGuru They can't give the lightning away in the US or Canada.
You spoke about the fuel, I had a company fuel card a few years ago and it took over £5000 off my tax allowance and I just couldn't do enough private mileage to justify the cost. So I handed it back in, paid for fuel and claimed the for business miles, much better off in the long run. And it changes your driving habits as well, MPG went up.
Yes, I always claimed for fuel and never took it as a benefit
This government keeps taxing everyone more and on many additional things to pay for their failed policies. At the same time freezing income tax allowances and taking away capital gains tax allowances. I have been running a small business for the last 30 years where on the same turnover I had during the previous Labour government my costs to run the business have skyrocketed as well as paying at least an additional £20 000 in company and personal taxes. It’s no longer viable for me and am winding down the business to close it at the end of this financial year in April. When the Tories came into power my business employed a dozen people, their policies have ruined the economy and the only option they have now is to keep cutting public services and raise taxes to cover their losses. While they do that more and more smaller businesses will become unviable and will close down further reducing tax incomes for the Country.
I work as a business consultant and your story is an all too familiar one I’m afraid
It's not just this party its government in general, all are the same shade of grey. Labour spend without thought, Conservative save without thought, it's a yo yo economy but never a happy medium. Memories fade quickly it seems as I can remember my father 33%tax back in the 70s under Labour so again they are all the same, voting don't work and never has for if it did the elites wouldn't of allowed us to do it.
@@LaZoucheCustomshop Running my business was a lot more profitable under a Labour government. Friends of mine who run different businesses also agree that since the Tories took power their businesses all suffered. All governments take taxes but at least Labour invested in schools, NHS and public services. Tories have got a track record of waste, corruption, public spending cuts as well as giving the wealthy tax breaks while raising taxes for small businesses and everyone else. They are not all the same, that is just Tory rhetoric to make people apathetic to put people off voting for other parties. Having lived under various Labour and Tory governments I felt better off under labour also the country didn`t need to rely on food banks as many now do under the Tories.
@@LaZoucheCustomshop my toughts exactly, politicians by nature, have to argue with the other side and basically never agree on anything, meaning common sense balance never happens. We basically vote in one stuffed shirt after another to serve themselves and try to get voted in again. The system is a farce.
If everyone thought like you that has a business there would be no business
Next will be vans used for private. Used to be cheap without side windows, put windows in and tax went up.
No doubt
My double cab Hilux got stolen in 2018 and ended up in Kenya 2 months later and was driving around for a year before someone crashed it, then tracker went silent after that
Wow!! I know there’s a firm local to me that buys old pickups and exports them to Africa. I guess plenty of hot ones go over there too.
Your mean it probably got hit by a Reaper drone missile.
If there is a vehicle supplied for YOU to do you work and it is taxed as a perk, what is the advantage to you. Private use might not come into it at all so where is the perk to you. ?????
Trackers are great unless car goes into shipping container, I’ve now got a shadow immobiliser where car won’t start without the Bluetooth card or iPhone app to start my new Hilux
Is it just me or. I see the wife’s driving these pickup trucks all the time to supermarkets and school runs.
Yeah, a lot use them as work vehicles but others run them as a car due to the tax loophole
C-mon wives wanna be cool, its a status symbol in the UK.
You might have seen me at a supermarket, because I need to buy food. I also ran a haulage Company, so yes, it was a work vehicle
It’s just you.
The future is Not electric it is Hydrogen.
Lithium is poison to our planet, and all the plastics on electric vehicles are made from… Oil 😮
The government priorities are to find one of many solutions to pay the £8 million a day to pay for keeping economic migrants in our country.Pick ups are one of them!
Hmm 🤔
I think someone needs to look at where tax payers money really goes.
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VED is bonkers! You can tell it's organised by the same more rons that cock up everything else! My Toyota Aygo 1,000 cc, £20.00 tax. My new Yamaha bike 321 cc £58.60 tax. Bonkers!🙃
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Absolutely !!. My BMW 1200 GS £101.00 a year. Toyota Aygo £20.00 and weighs how much heavier than my bike?. Government scam nothing less !
I saw an Aygo X in my car park last week, in black...It looked absolutely incredible...what a stunning little car, it really stood out, a fabulous piece of styling from Toyota. 👌🖤👍
Rfl should be dropped and put on the price of fuel / electric. That way it would encourage driving less and more efficiently. I often cycle to work to help with fitness but still have to pay £1000 a year in rfl. No incentive not to commute in my 2 tonne vehicle causing more road wear and pollution than cycling 🤷♂️ (well actually the way i puff and pant i probably produce more co2 than the car 😂) It started as a way to prove mot and insurance, now that can be done in other ways.
It really is getting ridiculous!
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Double cab. It's a car so why should the loophole exist. I know people with them that have no business having one. They are massive gas guzzeling bling machines
@@TrickyTree84Their purchase is no concern to me so don't see how it would effect others
@@GreggWalken-xd3qvso you are ok with a tax loophole on an especially large polluting vehicle that is not used for work
@@TrickyTree84 Yes I'm okay not paying added taxes that now is a penalty/fine for
purchasing a pickup. What I'm not okay with is this tax money going for EV grants.
I am surprised they have not closed this loophole before now. Just wait until they start ramping up the BIK on EVs.
Only a matter of time, I’ll be on a pushbike then
Completely outrageous how can a 4x4 not count as a commercial vehicle yet a 90k defender with no pick up can?
Another move forcefully pushing people into the electric market, the next stage is increasing road tax to make it financially unviable!
If a individual or company is willing to part with 50k for a vehicle it encourages growth and employment in the sector contractors in industry will simply use the money in other tax saving ways!
Interesting comment on electric vehicle options for a 4x4 truck bring limited maybe we will see a vast influx in models soon
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Used to be £500 on vans until everyone and his mate started using this loophole.
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I warned a friend of this 2 years ago thanks to a warning from my accountant that this was coming. I went electric instead 🙄
It all started when hmrc took (iirc) Walkers to court over this and won.
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It was Payne & Ors (Coca-Cola).
All been reversed by HM Treasury and back as we were thanks to lobbying by farmers and the automotive industry.
Yep, update video already live ua-cam.com/video/7hPZ2KXiJ38/v-deo.html
Ordering before July 1 seems a strange way of going about things. Can I place an order on June 30 for 6, one to be delivered every 2 years for the next 12 years?😄
Haha, don’t see why not
Fine, but won't the dealer charge you 6 deposits upfront and lock you into a contract
Doublecabs were never used for trade work, the loading bays were too small, so they were just a tax dodge. Singlecab is a working truck.
I know 2 who use them for trade work; that's 100% of the people I know with a double cab pickup.
I had pickups for years until the company got rid of all the vehicles in covid. A lot who did have them to reduce tax went electric once the bik went rock bottom on that. They are not like an suv as people suggest but they suited me down to the ground. I work on construction sites and the vans always got stuck in the winter. If you asked for a push some guy would turn up in a loader with a huge bucket and try to aim at your towbar. You felt like a cat who had lost a life. You could sling all your smelly clothes and oily equipment in the back and all travel in more comfort than a van with 3 seats in the front. I also had to carry 700kg parts for repair, they could do that. I could tow equipment. I also used it for a family car. Not very comfortable in the back, child seats didn't fit well and a pain to park but I got by. Now I don't have a company car I have 3 private vehicles to do what I used to do with the single pickup. Mainly for improved comfort. I am out of pocket as the milage allowance has been stagnant for so long so im paying to go to work. A relative of mine does contract work. He takes the 4 workers and a fuel bowser to the machines every day. Plenty have a practical uses for the double cabs and I would get one again if work decided to provide them again but only at the low tax rate. Atleast I have an asset now rather than just paying tax to work 🤷♂️
Will be really interesting to see what folks fall back on. Personally I was overjoyed to hear this - there are way too many of these monsters rolling around, usually completely empty. That said, there may be some further unintended consequences that the new rules through up. Thanks for the video
My mate has a landscaping business and it’s perfect for him. No doubt off the cards in future. I love to see tax loopholes exploited and have a soft spot for pickups so I think it’s bad news.
@@DefinitelyNotAGuru My neighbour was in medical sales and he was basically forced to have one for visiting hospitals! Hopefully some middle ground can be found. Appreciate they have uses... single cab pickups are unaffected, I think?
I guess people who genuinely need it for work/business can always get a single cabin pickup. Just like commercial vans I guess.
@@distilledgogilba Exactly 😎
These are not monsters
But if it is genuinely used for load carrying, ie as a van or truck not a Chelsea tractor then it's ok, it's the dual use that trips it up, least that's my understanding. So if you buy a single cab, you should be ok. I think??
Single cab is fine
Or if you run out of a place of work and go straight back to a place of work
@@RichardSmith-ck2dd Yep if you do zero personal mileage. And HMRC can be a pain on this one, for example (if you stop at a shop on the way home, to buy a drink/food/newspaper [something not work related], they can declare the rest of the journey as personal. If you're investigated, which is extremely rare) A place where I worked supplied vehicles for work use only, and we had special training about this.
Great Video, shame for those who used the pickups for work but not for those who just used them for school and supermarkets. Talking about the Maxus, I saw one today moving slowly in traffic. Every time it moved it was accompanied by a high pitch wine that was very audible over the other traffic!
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The evs are supposed to make an artificial noise under about 30mph to stop them running over pedestrians. I always think the audis sound like milk floats. I think the next big gimmick is going to be downloadable noises. You'll be able to have a race car engine or the crazy frog or something. 😵💫
It does sort of make sense, manufacturers have made premium models of trucks like the wildtrak for the ranger, the invincible X for the hilux and pretty much the full range of the Mercedes and VW trucks.. Anyone that uses their truck as a truck its always pretty beat up and is the base model... I had the option of a company car, I did it when I was a 20% tax payer but as soon as your a 40% tax payer it makes no sense, I did about 30k miles a year and used to buy a few year old BMW 3 series diesel, I made money on the fuel per mile the company gave me, with mileage allowance relief doing such good mileage, I made more money. And I got a company car allowance although that money was taxable.. The devaluation on a brand new car if you do 30k miles a year and need to change cars every 4yrs is nuts... EV's have driven people back into the company car schemes but its correct the premium truck market will be killed, the ironic thing is the government will not get any more tax because people will just move away from having a company car and claim loads of tax relief so when you consider the tax they get for a new car/truck and the BiK they will get less tax. Usual government policies of envy rather than intelligence
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Do you feel they might be trying to close the Tax Gap, that's happening as people spend less on Fuel.
This change in has been scrapped and double cab pick up’s will continue to be treated as goods vehicles rather than cars.
Yes, as it says in the title and description, a new video is live covering this.
Yet another very informative video, Jim. Lost me a little bit with all the business tax talk haha! That's quite a change on the pickup's 😮
Haha 😂👍
As a small construction company owner. I m really struggling to find a reason not to just shut it down and go back to being a sole trader on my own. All I do is pay tax on tax on tax on tax on NI. Or even just leave to building game completely. Hate it.
This has been u-turned now thankfully, new video up on channel
Thanks for the update. Really valuable.
Cheers Terry 👍
6 months left on my wildtrak lease. Just decided to extend it by another 2 years 😅 hopefully by which time a decent ev will be available.
Good shout
You only pay tax on personal use, so if your big ford ranger is just for work, you won't pay any tax on it.
Yep. So that means no private use on your insurance and actually no private use - the police will be all over this i reckon.
It's been scrapped today.
Yes, video being uploaded…
How can a vehicle be in two different classes simultaneously ?
How can one Government department, in this case HMRC class a vehicle as a 'car' whilst a different Government department (ie DVLA) classes it as 'commercial' ?
It's either one or the other - it can't be both at the same time
If they're a 'car' then they pay lower Road Tax & are not liable to be charged in CAZ (Clean Air) zones, as cars are exempt from CAZ charges
This needs to be challenged in Court - I'm sure a Judge will be as confused about it as anyone else with a brain cell - and I'd love to see HMRC justify & explain how a vehicle can be in two classes simultaneously as classified by two Official departments of the same Government !
It's a car for private use and commercial for business and the tax rates are calculated accordingly
@rockerjim8045 a vehicle cannot change its class back & forth depending on its usage. The V5C clearly states what class it is, either PLG (private light goods, ie a car) or Commercial
There is no such class as 'Car but also Commercial ' - its one or the other, not both simultaneously; the same as if it changed its class to any other ie: Historic, SORN, Disabled, etc ...
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In America there having a revolt against ev's I was watching something on UA-cam that said you could get an If I remember correctly an electric Ford 150 pick up delivered into Britain including all tax and delivery charges for just under £10,000
You’re joking??
About time you cant park anywhere for them
Really?
Why ? They take up a space, not two.
Absolute nonesense, my Ranger fits in a single space in any car park
So does this no apply to ones already registered?
If so, they would become more sought after ?
Not at the moment
Shame. Just seen the new Toyota Stout and it's the first crew cab pickup I have seen and actually think looks OK!
Yeah, it looks bananas
Get a van instead. Fully tax deductable. Some also allow extra passenger seats to be retro fitted.
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A month?! On top of car insurance, petro and the car payment itself? That's insane. How do you manage that, and afford food and sshelter?
If you saw all the tax we pay ups laugh then cry. People here rarely have disposable income, literally nothing like middle incomers in the US.
Funny story, I got a big promoption a few years back (when I had a normal job!) and got a £30k pay-rise. It was in London so I needed to get the train which cost be £9k per year (not tax deductable despite the fact I was using public transport and not clogging up the roads). My net pay rise as a result of going over £100k (and into the stealth 60% tax bracket between £100k-123k that nobody knows about) was that I was £81 per month better off - after a £30k pay rise. That year I paid more in tax and NI than I took home.
Definitely not a perk, to drive a cheaply made crap car that was your employer’s choice and not your own choice.
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Would my tax go up on my 2014 Amarok, currently pay £28 a month ,its not a company vehicle, its my own truck
No
Ripped off fully in this country what about free rail travel rail industry get not being taxed just be fair across the board! When can we tax the mp,s for not doing their jobs
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soon we will be working for the state.
I though we already did
Just don't work, it's not economically viable....
It is about time BIK incentives for PHEV’s were changed and follow the same rates as for ICE vehicles given that company car drivers who have them invariably never charge them. Consequently the vehicles are emitting similar emissions to those of petrol vehicles. I have no issue with the BIK for fully electric vehicles but PHEV company vehicles are a joke.
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We have a few electric trucks in the USA but the mileage on say an F150 is limited to the same range as an E Transit, about 110 miles on a full charge, we travel far more miles than Brits on a normal basis, the F150 Lightening sales have slumped, in 24 Ford will make 50% of what they made in 23, Electric trucks are for a selective few, I cant see them being a success anytime soon, the smaller Maverick hybrid pick up is very successful, Ford can sell every one they make, they are smaller than a Ranger.
The Rivian is expensive and rare to see, repairs to replace a 1/4 panel can run $40.000, so not exactly cheap.
I sat in a Maverick at the LA Auto Show, I didn't know about it previously but liked it a lot. I think those repair prices that get thrown around are nonesense; maybe the manufacturer quotes that but nobody in their right mind would pay it, you'd just use a bodyshop - you could get a new panel fabricated for a tench of the price.
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The Maverick makes sense for many in need of a small 4 door truck, they were supposed to sell for 20k as a base hybrid model, there is also a 4wd without the hybrid feature, many Mavericks with decent options would be under 30k which makes more sense than your typical American small car purchase, I've not seen one sell for less than 40k, dealers mark them up 10k-15k all the time as they are in demand.
Search for the videos here on You Tube so can see the Rivian 1/4 panel repair using P.D.R., that's where I'm seeing the 40K body shop repair estimate, its not the cost of the 1.4 panel but associated labor involved.
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Wonders if posh crew vans will become more popular .
Surely they’ll follow soon
Isn’t there a loophole where if you don’t have seats in the double cab it’s exempt, people will just fit them after lol doubt anyone will go round checking
I’m not sure
The reason for this is clearly because Government has allowed EV company cars to become a huge loss of revenue to the government.
So tax is need else where
they've done a u-turn, new video is out
Thank you for uploading the video.
Thanks for watching it!
Great update Jim 👍👍
Thanks Andy 👍
It's an absolute joke. I have a wildtrack double cab. We travel all round the country. It's comfortable for a start. I can take 3 workers with me. And if I need to tow a trailer or I have to go across a field it will do it no bother. Also because of this reclassification does that mean road tax will go up as well.
Don't panic, U-Turn time ua-cam.com/video/7hPZ2KXiJ38/v-deo.html
I’m too cheap to buy a brand new pick-up. Does this affect limited company owners who actually use pickups to do a job?
Unless it’s a single cab or you use it for business use only (so no private use on insurance)
HOW about you purchase it out of your wages paid ?and then charge your company mileage , done for work .
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I don't mean to be pedantic but you refer to "the cost" of a car. For calculating cash equivalent benefit of a car it is not the cost that is relevant but the manufacturers LIST PRICE so any purchasing discount the employer may receive will not reduce the taxable benefit. It also means that a second hand vehicle will still be taxed at the manufacturers list price when the vehicle was new.
I think I mentioned list price enough in the video and the article
HMRC have today done a rapid u-turn, and double cab pick-ups will remain as commercial vehicles for tax purposes and benefits in kind . So don't panic folks😂
Yep, video launches today
How's this stand for farmers claiming the vat back on truck's?... different subject or also affected. Government are certainly trying to scrape together every penny at the moment.👍
Different subject but the goalposts certainly keep moving
I've got a company van and it doesn't cost me anything because I don't have personal use of it.
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Buy yourself a sedan + trailer.
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Not many can tow 3.5 tons like a pickup - and have a ton in the back.
Not sure that too many family vehicles need to do that.@@4wdflying
What are the alternative vehicles to buy 2 ton and 4 ton trucks.? Or Iveco vans ?
Ford usa are slowing down production of evs pickups due to huge looses and no demand as issues with range and range when loaded. Other companies following ford.
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About time. There are some that do genuinely use them for work but others who have them to get round the loophole that existed. It won’t happen immediately but give it a few years and the values of these types of vehicle will drop if not even dropped from manufacturers ranges.
We’re one of the most heavily taxed countries with many having very little disposable income come as a result. Is it any wonder people look for loopholes?
@@DefinitelyNotAGuru I agree , if it’s there then you would. I do think their are those who do genuinely use them for work and it would be unfair to penalise them but I doubt they will do a tax system that that could be split. It will be like all our taxes , it’s just a one size fits all policy.
Never seen the point of these pickups for a trades man , open back so tools and materials can be stolen or water damaged. To big for normal car parking so always see them on yellow lines outside shops. I never quite brought into the need to convert to electric cars but the people driving huge vehicles for no good reason are adding to the pollution of the cities without a care. They are living out some fantasy Smoky and the bandit world. Real traders use a van .
Countless trades need 4X4 capability and an open back.
What happens for discovery and defender commercial vehicles ?
2 seater is fine I guess
The 4x4 business may as well shut its doors.
Disgrace!
Another video coming today, it’s all changed AGAIN ua-cam.com/video/7hPZ2KXiJ38/v-deo.html
I will stick with my commercial Discovery
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They should tax new and old they are really a commercial vehicle.
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great video, this news is career ending for people like me, i fix quarry and plant machinery for a living so i need to drive 200 miles to site with my tools and spares and PPE and test equipment then i need to drive down into the quarry itself to fix the machine wherever it has decided to break down. so the double cab is a necessity for space and other engineers plus its 4x4, so its the ONLY type of vehicle for the job.... but after the 1st july im gonna have to pay 580 quid a month for the 'benefit' of going to work. not joking it would swallow all my profit for the week so whats the point, ill just sit on Benefits at home...that would be a real benefit. anyway rant over
It’s a nightmare eh! Just keep hold of your current vehicle for now, they’re only taking the new ones like this for the next few years.
You could get a single cab, how often are you giving lifts to other engineers.
@@WestermanT. I’ve been looking at single cabs today, it looks like that’s the route I’m going to have to go down now, much lower spec in every aspect but I suppose that’s what the HMRC are trying to do, make double cabs unattractive to people who want to use them as cars only, still thanks for the advice westerman 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
So keep the old pick up just put new engine and gearbox in it every 10 to 15 years if necessary. Oh that’s been done before go to Cuba they still have the 1950s and 1960s motor vehicles there in 2024😂😂😂
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Those BIK numbers are as much as a monthly on a pcp. BIK is money down the drain. On your own loans you have something to show for it.
Yep, I think that's the idea - to make it as unattactive as possible so they can get your tax one way or another.
Ive had the discovery and now i have the new defender as a company vehicle and never payed tax. There is a way wrond it. All depends on your job title.
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What your job title?
The Maxis doesn’t even have a locking tailgate 🤦♂️
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Can the seats be removed like in the landrover commercial vehicles?
I don’t know
Sickener if you actually need one of these - but for most of the idiots in these over sized and unnecessary vehicles this is a good thing.
I'm sure they're not all idiots pal. My mate is a landscaper and swears by his, as does my mate doing high voltage work in fields etc. It's just a tool of the trade for many and saves a lot from also running a private car.
@@DefinitelyNotAGuru I never said they were pal, as I said its a sickener if you actually need one.
Surely if its a plug in hybrid pickup with electric range over 30miles, it will be 12% BIK which is the same as a commercial vehicle, or has that been quashed as well? If that is not an option, it will be a combi van
I guess if it’s a PHEV it’ll be in a much lower band.
@DefinitelyNotAGuru problem is, we actually require these 4x4 vehicles for our work (even though driving off road still does not justify this vehicle type according to the tax man, and then we have the benefit of using it for personal use. I don't even have to pay ULEZ as it runs so clean. Just need hybrid versions to be released and this problem goes away. It will just catch out folk until hybrids are released
If you have it as commercial only (so no incurance for private use) it's a different story. Then means you also need to run a car though!
Plug in petrol Ranger coming next year
5k a year just in work vehicle tax? You'd have to be rinsing some miles out of it just to make it worth it, which, incidentally, would devalue the car nearly the same amount, your stuffed twice over, there's a surprise.... Not.
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Excellent Update, AS ALWAYS!!!!!!
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Tax tax tax tax tax tax tax
And tax of course
Definitely after the farmers again
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Hi jim is this for privately owned pickups or just company vehicles cheers
Company cars
Who was the greedy sod who thought up this penalty on growth of Britain!
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👍👍👍.Thanks Jim
Thanks mate
Gutted. Was looking into this for a new work vehicle for me and the lads. I do understand it. Especially with the high-end spec on some of the models.
I see so many that have never seen any off road action in their lives.
My only hope is they could change the rules for the double cab utility models. Like the isuzu and toyota. Basic workhorses. Give tradesmen a tax break on this.
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thats actually a really sensible idea - the tax break should be for genuine work vehicles - basic workhorses - not for poseurs
The original point is a good one but your reply…Why is someone a poser for driving a pickup? I never understand why some are so judgemental. Most people simply want to pay a bit less tax and exploited a loophole.
@@DefinitelyNotAGuru judgmental? - its just an opinion - you do get poseurs in these bling pickups - plenty of them round my way - utterly pristine - never been off road - the prices of some of these mean they are not aimed at the working man. If the argument is about avoiding tax - then the hybrid and electric vehicles are the way - and to be clear I am not talking about working vehicles
this was a loophole that the directers of my place of work used,
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Another hit to the farmers,how many use them transporting animals equipment around.Trying desperately to put farmers out of business at the orders of the WEF.And governments are playing to their tune.
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Something like a VW Transporter crew cab would be my choice following this change, as comfortable as a car and far more practical than a pickup.
I wonder if it’ll apply to any crew cab vehicles before long.
Exactly, I'll just move over to a combi van.
@@DefinitelyNotAGuruI believe a test case in court regarding a crew cab VW transporter has effectively led to this, so I believe they will be taxed too.
Motorists being screwed again,easy pickings for the chancellor.
It's just getting boring now isnt it...
Well hat just killed the double cab pickup outright. I guess the manufcturers will need to increase the number of single cab models. Wait for the single cab Ranger Wildtrack and Raptor later in the year!
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What the hell is the government doing to people
Like every government I can remember, trying to shaft them.
Don't worry it's all been cancelled yesterday
So now lots more ltd company owners wont declare any personal use
Becomes difficult then as you’d need insurance without personal use and you can bet the police will be doing stops
All our work vehicles are covered for personal use. Including the 7.5t trucks. It is a very low cost addition to our policy and always has been. This is the time for manufacturers of these pickups to lobby the government about these changes before it affects their sales, but they won't do anything untill it is too late then start belly aching because they have a field full of pickup trucks they can't sell. 🤔
Got to fund Mone,and the Channel flotsam somehow!
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Not a fan of tax-hikes in general but this is only fair.
And personally, I look forward to seeing less of these fugly heavy oversized things jutting out 4 feet in supermarket parking bays and parked up on pavements.
You want the privilege of driving around a butch oversized fuel guzzler for private use, pay for it like you would for a big SUV.
Fair enough. I personally like people finding loopholes and exploiting them as we’re getting robbed every which way we look and getting less and less for it.
@@DefinitelyNotAGuru The majority of people who own these things are uneccessarily robbing everyone else of clean air and space on the road, let alone food & water when climate change really hits. How do you defend that?
You only get mid-size pickups in the UK.
@@rich7447 Thank god for that small mercy!
@@DefinitelyNotAGuru Agreed.
Unfortunately, someone’s got to pay for the ever increasing % of our OAP population - their healthcare, benefits, triple-lock, etc. and for the failings of the sacred NHS.
So we’re only going to see more of these loopholes closed, with the electric BIK one not far away. To any young folk that I come across, my advice to them is - emigrate to a somewhere where you’re not going to be worked and taxed to the bone to keep funding unsustainable giveaways like the triple-lock and a state pension that you will never benefit from.
Haven't they U-turned on this, now?
Yes - pinned comment
I have a Company Ford Ranger Wildtrac from my company it is used to carry work related items and towing for the company it is on a 21 plate will this effect me.
Not at the moment, this is only for trucks registered from 1st July at the moment.
Sorry Commented too early should have waited till the End@@DefinitelyNotAGuru
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Does this apply to utility cabs ?
I’m not sure what this is to be honest
@@DefinitelyNotAGuru shortened rear cab can fit in tools but not really any good for passengers even though has a shortened fold down seat in rear ,izuzu have been pushing them in the uk of late
Good… folk have them because they can not because they are used in the business. It’s time to come down hard on Diesel cars and Diesel pick ups that are not used for commercial use.
I've got a Tesla and am delighted with it but still think the motorist is an easy target. Cruise ships, aviation, manufacturing are getting away with murder but they're more difficult to extract cash from.
Yet more help from the government for workers… greedy “people “🤮
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Thank you for the heads up. I drive a double cab pick up at work as the benefit in kind is good and I only do about 50 miles a week. I guess the Hilux is now feasible now. If I changed to a crew Van I guess that would still qualify for the normal commercial vehicle tax?
I'm not entirely sure but it looks like a crew van still gets the old rules so an easy change for many - you have to wonder if that is the case, how long will it be before they go down the same route with crew vans though.
@@DefinitelyNotAGuru maybe I just need to go for an electric until they change that as well 🤔
@DefinitelyNotAGuru I am not sure if you might know the answer but if we order our company car in June but then its not registered till November will I got charged the lower rate still? I am not sure how they would know and be able to calculate it
According to what I;ve read - yes. The car simply has to be ordered before 1st July - I think in 3 years the tax will kick in on all of them though (whatever the age)
Is this going to affect the road tax?
No
“You will own nothing and be happy”
Love it
Pick ups have been a bit of a loop hole for a long time. Its probably time for a change.
I think it's time for more loopholes
They’ve u turned on it
Yep, video out tomorrow
Another good video
Cheers Glen
Let's be honest, most of the people buying and using them spend their life trying to avoid or minimise tax. In my view levels the field a little.
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