Enneagram Type 3 Everything You Need To Know? | Pastor Matt Brown | Sandals Church Sermon
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- Опубліковано 29 кві 2018
- If at first, you don’t achieve, try, try again.
The Achiever type is known to get things done, but what happens when they can’t do it all?
Do you know someone who feels the need to succeed at everything they do? Invite them to watch this video where Pastor Matt Brown discusses what it looks like to be an Achiever and still be a healthy and authentic person.
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I'm going to watch this only because I love hearing about myself.
This is everything I am. I feel like crying and laughing but honestly I have so much work to do, I will do the emotions later
yeah man this dude is a stand up pastor. ive never seen anyone like him before. wished he was in my church.
It's called the Forer or Barnum Effect.
pro tip : watch series at flixzone. I've been using it for watching a lot of movies recently.
“No amount of success will cover your shame”
Don’t call me out like that 😂
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This brought me to tears mixed with laughter lol. You nailed it for us number 3s🙏🏾😂
I Love this series Matt ! 🙏🏽 thank you.
I found this while scrolling through youtube on my way home from work. Ive always look for ways to work on myself and better my self and after learning my mbti and enneagram, i always look to learn more. This was what i needed, i cried in the car
Darryl Briscoe i relate im always on the path of self-growth & bettering myself
Who writes the questions for the enneagram tests? How many different tests are there? How are the tests graded and interpreted? How does your enneagram identity help you to love others and God? Just some questions to think about.
I just found out about enneagram, I am whole heartedly a three. I am laughing and crying and I feel like you are speaking right to me.
Caele1gh F me toooooo
www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/people-are-strange/201909/when-personality-test-results-are-wrong-feel-so-right
Research. The Enneagram is no more accurate than your zodiac sign. You just get to pick your sign instead of "the stars". But it's still divination.
I just wanna say Thank you Lord Jesus for Matt Brown for being real, and honest to us all. I have just started attending Sandels.
Matt's realness has opened my eyes to how I have lied to myself even helping me realize sins in my life I didn't even know I had inside me. Matt you are the bravest man of God I know!!! But what I would change about you is NOTHING!
Just keep being you! God bless all you believers. Let's all just be REAL with ourselves.
Honesty would involve researching the "science" behind The Enneagram www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/people-are-strange/201909/when-personality-test-results-are-wrong-feel-so-right
Or as another former Enneagram student said:
"Claim: It seems the Enneagram is true.
Response: The only reason to believe something is because it is true. The claims made by the
Enneagram about the nature of personality and reality are testable and falsifiable. If after testing
the claims, no evidence is found to support them and evidence mounts against the claim, then
one can conclude it is untrue. Although some repeat the claim it is a useful tool, there is no
compelling evidence to bolster any of the central claims of the Enneagram: that the personality
types exist, a primary emotional response drives behavior or that it exists at all, likewise that
there is a basic desire or need at the foundation of the personality, that the healthy to unhealthy
levels of personality exist as described, that personalities are connected to one another and
have “wings” or complementary personality types, or that there are levels of integration and
disintegration or stress for each personality. These claims are not supported by rational inquiry
or scientific evidence and experiment. Assuming it is true, it should be logically consistent,
internally coherent, and not self-contradictory. The Enneagram however is full of contradictions
and concepts which do not fit together in a way that makes sense to the mind, heart or gut. The
vague and confusing nature of the Enneagram is indeed a sign of its falsehood.
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As an illustration of what he meant by concepts which don't fit together we turn to actual Psychologist Jay Medenwaldt:
"One study had participants organize the types based on similarities and the results showed vastly different organizations from how the types are actually organized according to the enneagram. More research needs to be done here, but it does seem to suggest that even if the types are valid, the organization of them on the circle may simply be arbitrary."
And:
"[A]ccording to the Enneagram, my sin as a 5 is avarice (hoarding); however, of all the sins listed for the 9 types, this is probably the one I struggle [with] the least! Ironically, the sin I probably struggle with most is associated with 7s (although the sins of 1s and 2s are about equal), which is the direction I am supposed to move when I am "healthy.""
www.jaymedenwaldt.com/2019/01/the-enneagram-science-and-christianity.html?m=1
This will hold true for most of the population. If you think it's accurate, it's just as likely you're engaging in "self-verification" where you're so convinced your "type" is true you start to act it out en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-verification_theory
I’m a 3w4 pastor. Great message!
Great message!
This message was so freeing for me as a 3!
loved this!
This is crazy. How GOD speaks sharply to me through Ps. Matt Brown. Thankful for his existence in this world & may God bless him with his ability to touch people's heart while he speaks life towards them.
3, core emotional point, means there’s an absence of emotions, authentic - their real feelings - emotions are hard to access.
Marcy Murray True. I suck at going through my emotions. I just find things to work on, or workout, or just go to work early and stay late.
Kudos for you!!! This needs to be exposed!!!! God bless for your courage!!!
Thank you Pastor Matt Brown. Last part hit home with watery eyes.
Thank you for watching with us friend. We're praying for you today!
Imma 3 wing 2
rowen bertelsen same
I am crying like a lot. Thank God to sent you into ourlife. It is so relieving.
This is so incredible! I looooooove this series. Watching from the Greater Chicago Area and sharing with more of my friends across the country who serve in their churches/homes/families. My husband is a 3x2, and I’m a 4x3. We recently discovered the Enneagram back in May, and I’m just discovering Sandals church and this series. Thank you Pastor for this.
Wow - watch all the way to the end. Got chills at 43:08
ua-cam.com/video/k9Jo90cl7Io/v-deo.html&ab_channel=PopularGospel
Watch this instead.
So good 😊
God I love you pastor Matt 😅😊
Im a 3 so I'm saying this with grace... but do you realize that your joke about Mike Pence was an extremely 3 thing to do- you were name dropping. You found a way to mention this story that boosts your image... you met these famous people and were in the White House.
But seriously good message. I loved thinking about the rich young ruler as a 3. I mean that story has always resonated with me but never realized why. And I have ALWAYS struggled with trying to "earn" my salvation. I never associated that with being a three (even though I've known my enneagram for years)
Lol you say that like your exposing something but he literally was describing how he's a 3 with that story. So very 3 of you trying to sound smart.
um ok? so he met mike pence? he can talk about it can’t he? what’s wrong with that?
i met the texas tech basketball players who made it into the championship. am i not allowed to say that? i’m sorry this comment just really annoyed me
True that's a 3 thing because he is a 3. And I believe he fights some characters forever, and that is what he is trying to encourage us.
Did you all know that the Enneagram is considered the second-most discredited "tool" by mental health experts? Second only behind the Szondi test. Maybe Matt Brown should do a series around the Szondi test so he can look like an even more gullible fool.
I hope the person on stage reads this. I didnt expect it to be so funny. I literally laughed out loud soooooooo many times. Im a self pres 3 W4 and I really connected to this. Thank you very much!
I encourage you to research the origins of the Enneagram.
Even if these teachings seem helpful and good, they are rooted in mysticism. The Bible warns us that even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light (2 Corinthians 11:14).
Research the origins, AND research the psychometric validity. The fact that a pastor is doing an entire series around it should be embarrassing to any thinking person.
Deceit is when you lie to yourself, and believe it and then we believe it. Three can be a changeling, completely changes when false, like the salesman. Beautifully...VERACITY/truth is their virtue. No one can tell the truth better than a mature 3. Jim Carey is a six, but an immature six, a six moves to three when immature, so Carey seems three-ish. Awesome sermon on 3 type!! KNEW it would because I knew pastor was a 3, so thank you for your honesty and humor!
I’m a three and I HATE the spotlight. I don’t have to win- I have to be a contender. I will rejoice with others in their victories. I do want to achieve. I don’t feel like I’m shallow.
Wow!
I’m a 3 that does Jiu Jitsu. Failing is how you improve.
I really appreciate this. I've been trying to figure out if I'm a 3 or an 8w7 and I remember yelling at my ex-wife the exact same thing you yelled through the door, exact. It hit me right in the heart. I'm still not sure which I am, because I like to think I have a very solid level of introspection and have no issues sharing or being vulnerable..but this at least helps me figure it all out. Thank you.
He generalizes a lot. Don't take everything he said as law, look at other resources too
Start with scientific resources. You'll notice a pattern (the Enneagram isn't a useful tool, it's a parlor game.)
It’s not just the ancient world that thought wealth meant god loves you; prosperity gospel anyone
Powerful: Run to the cross
Awsome
Pastor Matt, my husband and I just took the enneagram test last night. We found out we’re exactly like you and your wife. He’s a 3 and I’m a 6. Do you have any resources to help us with this enneagram combo? I read that this is not a common pair but when healthy they can be a powerful couple. I just listened to the sermon on 3 and now I’m watching this. 💜
Amen
Watching this now and seeing what has happened to Jim Carey is beautiful.
Wow God is trying to save us from our dreams(desire) 😬😳
Amen 🙏
amen
I'm a 9 (with strong 2 and 4) and I'm not gonna lie, 3's scare me... like a lot
lol I believe healthy 9s actually show characteristics of 3, so if you find yourself feeling insecure/anxious for no reason you are likely leaning towards 6 (your unhealthy side) while if you find yourself feeling more competitive and ambitious than you are likely healthier
I’m a 3...my husband’s a 9. Sometimes I do feel like I scare him. I don’t mean to.
Was just looking at enneagrams on Insta. Was about to research more about myself and was NOT expecting to see a whole sermon. Not gonna lie, I thought this was gonna be some motivational speech but Im actually here witth eyes opened - convicted and all. lol!! This was actually pretty good.
I’ve been hearing Christians mention the enneagram & I just went to look it up and was shocked it has a pentagram/Wiccan/occult symbol then I researched more and found within seconds that it was founded by an occultist and its all for people to know their “truth” and to attract that. Good to hear this Pastor preaching scripture. I do pray Christians seek God’s word and not some occultist test. My biggest concern is for new believers that may not be able to discern truth from the devils schemes. They may think since so many Christian leaders say it’s okay to explore with the enneagram that they could be swayed into the Wiccan teachings.
Look up christiananswersforthenewage.org if you haven't already. Also just research pseudoscience in general. The Enneagram is a waste of time.
This is so good! I’m a 3 and I’ve done crazy stuff in the past to look like I’m super successful. Nice car out of high school. running laps, I try and out run everyone. Was a best man in a wedding so I took out a loan to have a great bachelor party for everyone and look like I had money. Birthday rented a yacht for the day to impress people I didn’t even know. As I’ve gotten older, learning to be HUMBLE and not live in the future all the time. I would work 90 hour weeks. Always stay late. Me and my ex split because of how I focused so hard on work or work around the house and she try and talk to me or text me and I’d say I’m busy because I’m so driven when working that nothing else matters. I still fight a lot of this. A lot of what this guy is saying hit so hard with me. Any other 3 reading this, don’t forget to work on your family! I only see my daughter a couple times a week now. It freaking sucks! Stay smart and stay blessed!
God teaches us through the Bible, which is the only tool we need. Proverbs 30:6 warns us, "Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar."
The enneagram is strongly associated with New Age philosophy and has occultic origins. The man credited with introducing the enneagram to the West is George Gurdjieff. Gurdjieff was a mystic, philosopher, and spiritual teacher immersed in occultic practices such as astrology, mental telepathy, spiritism, fortune telling, and posession. One of his followers Oscar Ichazo, along with Claudio Naranjo (a psychiatrist) began relating the enneagram with personality types in the 1960s. In a 2010 interview, Caudio Naranjo admitted that he lied about the origins of the enneagram because he wanted his idea to become famous and widely accepted. Naranjo admitted the enneagram is not an ancient tool of Babylonian origin. He confessed he arrived at the nine personality types through "automatic writing," which is the process of producing written words while in a trance state. The words arose from a supernatural source. The bible warns us not to channel spirits (Leviticus 19:31). The enneagram is a demonic New Age teaching that is infiltrating the church. Please do your research, and remember the devil is the master of deception. Don't be led astray. 🙏🏼
The interview link:
ua-cam.com/video/wlO3KJWnNd8/v-deo.html
Wow
"We don't fail, we just run out of time." 😂
Wow.. I'm a 2w3. There is so much truth in this
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Left his threeness hanging out in that sermon...
LOL IF YOU ARE NOT CHEATING YOU ARE NOT TRYING HARD ENOUGH.
I literally choked on air laughing so hard
I’m a 3 and my husband and I CANNOT play uno together because the one time we did it ended in a very big fight because we grew up with different rules and I was losing because of “his” rules. 😂 My husband is a 5
Celina Jones same
So helpful...I am parenting a 3...the helmet is soooo right. It is a hardcore experience.
yes my 3 husband has lost me and his girls.
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"When I die put my money in my grave"
- Drake a proud 3
Comment number six :-( I think I can be the first to comment next week ;-)
Yeah but how fast is your Ironman personal best?? Lol jk great lesson man as a 3 I realize I need to change my entire life thanks for the insight.
Thanks for watching Ewan! We are currently in a new series around the enneagram called A Series Called You! You can check it out here: ua-cam.com/play/PLUV2tfAVC_fMg-iSR1A8mFcJvBYt3MPae.html
Oooo
For more information on where these types come from and why there are exactly 9 of them: ua-cam.com/video/TdRLVCGqHcE/v-deo.html
How about Jesus alone?
I encourage you to research the origins of the Enneagram.
Even if these teachings seem helpful and good, they are rooted in mysticism. The Bible warns us that even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light (2 Corinthians 11:14).
Dang
needed a fellow 3 to give it to me straight
I'll give it to ya straight, the enneagram has occult origins and is scientifically debunked.
The science: www.jaymedenwaldt.com/2019/01/the-enneagram-science-and-christianity.html
The origins: ua-cam.com/video/k9Jo90cl7Io/v-deo.html&ab_channel=PopularGospel
@@andrewcramer9200 but are you a 3 tho...
I just recently discovered the Enneagram Test and HOLY MOLY when you realize your type it is crazy the similarities I feel when hearing about it. I’m a 3w4 and jeeZ everything he said 3s do I was like “yes. ouch. so true but man.” The truth is painful
Confirmation bias + The Barnum/Forer Effect (whichever name you prefer).
"Personality tests can seem very accurate even when they are not. Perhaps you’ve met someone who claims to be an Enneagram 3, and it really seems like that description fits them to a tee. One of the reasons for this illusion of accuracy has to do with confirmation bias: When we believe something is true, we automatically begin to filter information based on that assumption."
www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/people-are-strange/201909/when-personality-test-results-are-wrong-feel-so-right
"This effect describes the tendency for people to think that broad descriptions that apply to nearly everyone are specific personal descriptions. I'd be willing to bet that for most people, one or two other Enneagram types seem to describe them pretty well, and the detailed descriptions of several other types will have occasional statements that are eerily descriptive of you. Test it out and see for yourself, but remember, you may be one of the rare people who are described extremely well by just one type."
www.jaymedenwaldt.com/2019/01/the-enneagram-science-and-christianity_17.html
But hey, what does a Ph.D. and a Ph.D. candidate know about psychology?
It’s not a lie. It’s “fake it till you make it” 😂
Martin Luther King seems more like an 8 though
Sadan is 3.
3w4, funny he put pastor up there with president and mayor 😅
It is clear that Alexander the Great was a 3. The distinctive behaviour was that of the sliding goals, being charismatic, uplifting, freedom of speach leader, etc. Never ending story.. He almost conquered the entire world by changing his goals until his army wanted to fight no more wars.
He died not as a hero in a batle but by a mosquito bite in malaria, leaving no heirs, no one to rule and the empire disolved within a decade. One of the greatest tragedies of that time.
No one could challenge his army but God. When God did that..it became an ugly thing to see. It is said that he cried blod due to the desise until he died. He taught the world what Jesus said to the old rich man that wanted to heaven. By asking for his 3 final requests on his deads bed about 300BC (300 years Before Christ). Isn’t that amazing?
Before Christ means.. that the bible was not even known of back then. About 400 years before the first bible writings were written.
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So you actually dat that Gehandi and Martin are in hell?
That's an interesting theological debate, but not the point he was making really. In Martin Luther King Jr's case, he was an ordained minister, so he probably followed Jesus. In Gandhi's case, that's a significantly harder debate to make. I like to imagine that if people were never seriously exposed to the gospel in this life, God probably exposes them to the gospel when they die, and He knows what they would choose. However, that's kind of an incomplete idea, as it takes the pressure off of mundane Christians to evangelize to the masses. The truth is probably closer to "we have no earthly way of knowing how God makes his decisions," and I'll just have to be content with that.
Ouch
Jim Carrey is a 7, yeah?
yes,of course
Ramsey Adam Clark he could 💯 be a 3. 3s are performers
This dude just changed God’s fourth commandment 🤨
Minus 2 points for the long ass intro
Bro... we’ve been flying since before the flood
MY HUSBAND TO A T
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I’m willing to bet Martin Luther King Jr was an 8
He was not a number, types do not exist.
This is strange to see. Enneagram Christianity ✝️... seems ... I dunno
It's totally false and incompatible. It's a buzzfeed quiz being passed off as holy, which is funny in one way but mostly just sad.
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As a 3 I fail to understand, what is the point of being put onto this earth to abide by physics, physical systems, physical things, requiring food, water, shelter etc... just to survive yet value none of it and all you're meant to do is apparently follow God and get rid of your possessions? Seems counter intuitive af, if God wanted your "spirit" to advance, why bound you by the laws of physics and the universe? We are alive and on Earth because our ancestors etc... worked hard to survive, build and create, if everyone simply donated all their possessions and followed God, we'd still be in the ice age.
I do not buy a nice car for image, I get one coz I like the experience of the drive and the thrill of the speed, I buy nice clothes coz it looks good, beautiful, pleasing to look at, I don't think 3s are so simple that we do everything for image, SOME things we may do for image while other things we do simply coz we like it, like every other type, who doesn't like luxury or nice things? You prefer economy class or first class if they cost the same? Like where is the common sense at?
Shouldn't we strive to live as a new creation in Christ? To let the holy spirit guide us to be like Jesus? Scripture says that the new man will be nothing like the old man. The old man dies. Why must we be aware of our witchcraft personality number, when we as saved members of the body should be about our fathers business? Does God not empower his people to do things that are out of their natural fallen nature? Enneagram tests are a form of divination and should not be mingled with anything that belongs to God.
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Enneagram is of occultic origin.
As three as they get....:((.
Jesus calls out the rich young ruler for what he worshipped. There shall be no other God besides me. God is a jealous God.
Heavy generalisations in this video... :/
I like the whole enneagram teaching but the whole heaven and hell teaching I’m against. It instills fear into people, which fear is darkness which is the opposite of love which is light which is what Jesus represents. Heaven on earth is within your self, why do you think Jesus said it is impossible for a rich person to get into heaven, it is because of the rich persons ego. Ego is what keeps the rich from entering heaven because ego is fear, ego controls the rich person and tells him to be greedy. Ego is darkness, ego is hell and suffering. When a person lets go of ego, the person begins to love, to give to others, that is what heaven is. Im a 3 and I have been battling my ego since I moved to America. The ego creates fear and anxiety which creates this suffering here on earth.. heaven and hell are not physical things. It’s all in the mind, the Bible is a metaphor of multiple stories put together by different peoples interpretations. It’s a library of different stories made up from many different past cultures and experiences..
SO the true part bothers you but the Enneascam teaching is OK? Got it.
Doesn’t do or for me. Its like this guy is yelling! Take a chill pill 💊 buddy.
Some really poor generalizations in this series that don't allow for the numerous nuances that exist in each personality of the enneagram
www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/people-are-strange/201909/when-personality-test-results-are-wrong-feel-so-right
The whole thing is generalizations. It's a psychometrically invalid tool.
Ouch
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