It’s honestly SO fitting that the very first footage a lot of non-Japanese players ever saw of him (not his gameplay, but him the actual physical person) _literally was_ him waking up from a nap. Famous silly FGC video from the pre-SF4 days. Edit: “Daigo sleeping on a table” Uploaded 18 years ago holy s*** lol
@@nikhiljehman6388 he was working in a nursing home during the time between the Daigo parry clip and him returning for SF4, no idea if he was working during SF4/5. He probably makes enough from streaming nowadays to not need a day job.
@@Squiddy00 Yeah, you attempt to enter their home from the second floor. If they manage to keep you out, they’re doing a great job. If you make it in, then they’ve got work to do.
There are tons of free resources everywhere , however with coaching , you are paying for two valuable things : 1 . The coach has all of the knowledge already in one place so you dont have to watch hours and hours of content to find stuff . 2 . (most important) The coach will steer you away from the stuff that is either beyond your current level or gimicks / techniques that will bring wins at your current level but will teach you bad habits or neglect fundamentals that will cause you to plateau prematurely .
3: the coach will be there in person to comfort you during hard times. Imagine burying your face in brians succulent chest after a rough session, one thing leads to another, and before you know it youre married with 7 kids
Also, in my opinion, 3. The coach is a physical human being who has taken their time to help you. That adds pressure to learn quickly and not waste their time which you see as precious. Compare this to self learning which can be easy to distract yourself from.
Infiltration came 9th at evo 2009 having never played a fighting game before, because Laugh taught him. Admittedly a niche case, but if you have the drive to put in 12-14 hour days and someone to answer all your questions, see all your errors without having to research or think about it, your time can be simply used to improve.
Some people, who may be very intelligent and capable in other ways, simply are not very good at teaching themselves a new skill. It's just a matter of people being different. Those people would benefit greatly from a teacher.
I got coached once (for free, by a cool guy) and went from stuck in Diamond 4 to Master in a few days. I just did not know what I did not know. Would I have made it by myself eventually? Maybe, but also maybe I would've gotten burned out and pissed for a long time. I usually learn better by myself but occasional guided sessions can be very helpful.
I feel like the value of coaching at a beginner level in the FGC lies primarily in having someone filter the information for you, as fighting games can feel super overwhelming for newcomers.
Wait a minute.THIS IS A REACTION VIDEO. I just sat my ass down and watch brain watch someone else do something while he eats. And it took me until finishing the vid to realise
I don't think that people who want coaching don't have the right mindset or aren't determined. That's kind of a snob thing to say. Sometimes it's just hard to learn things without help. I mean if you ever watched a combo video or looked for character information, technically you got coached. Only difference is that those people have the coach actually there to answer their questions in real time. Having this back and forth can help make things "click" a little faster. It's just that.
I feel like coaches can help you see the gaps, at every level. They can't make you Godlike, but they can help you prioritize on what to work on to get on the next level. Never took paid coaching, but talking with someone better at the game while analyzing helped me leaving the Plateau I was on. It would've taken me weeks and months to break it if I tried it alone. IMO a good coach does 3 things, they mirror back to you what you're good at, what you're bad at, and what you should be focusing on for the next few weeks. But in the end all they do is guide you to improvement.
Brian it was a pleasure meeting you at EVO and I'm shocked you didn't take up my offer to come visit my home (kidding). I do disagree with a few of your takes on coaching, though. The way I hear you discuss a beginner seeking out a coach and lacking motivation reminds me of someone who is planning on going to the gym, so they buy new clothes, supplements, a membership, do every step BUT go to the gym. That's true. This happens often. But in a fighting game, I would argue, that someone who books a coach is more invested in improvement than the average person (financial situtation not withstanding, I'm sure some people would do it but cannot for whatever reason). You've made a YT career making wonderful videos on this topic with many of them being educational; many self motivated players will watch your guides and your content to help themselves improve, while simultaneously seeking advice from rivals, friends, and foes in the myriad of posts on Reddit and discussions on Discord servers. You are, in many ways, a coach yourself. Direct coaching is just another avenue for self improvement. I have worked with the same coach for over a season; that activity, along with playing SF6, has become literally one of my favorite activities and hobbies. The act of objective self improvement is extremely therapeutic for me. Now, I understand, I'm not someone who just randomly picked up an FG and have been playing FG's for decades (I'm 34 y/o) so I may not be the person you meant - and I do agree that in the early days of your SF6 career a coach is going to bring you extremely diminished returns from an ROI perspective but if you're bronze and you want to get a coach, do it! Anything that is going to increase your engagement in this absolutely GOATed game is a positive and you should GO FOR IT. Anyways, Brian, I'll put my money where my mouth is! I will do my best to make it to your bracket on Saturday in the next open major we both attend and settle this discourse in a BO3 as the Gods of the FGC intended
i have been playing for like 1200 hours and im still stuck in diamond with the 1 character I play, I don't absorb text based info well, and I find videos only help until you have questions about things not mentioned in the vid, or easily explained through text. I think a coach doing live training and match stuff would probably go hella far for me lol
Once you reach high diamond you generally have most of the cards in your deck and now the lessons to be learned are much more abstract high level techniques. A coach can def help but I think Sajam has the most videos about higher level techniques not often explained if a coach is not available. That’s what’s so hard at a high level you have all these cards all these tools you be aquiring from rookie to diamond and now you gotta learn how to use them best and a coach can show you how you’ve been using them inefficiently much quicker than you can teach yourself but I do think someone like Sajam can help you figure some of it out on your own.
I'm interested in the coaching and the FGC. I haven't used coaching myself (I'm too low level for it to be necessary imo, but I'd consider it if I got more advanced), but I find the negative attitude toward coaching interesting. The idea that it's a "scam" comes, I think, from a competitive mindset where people feel like they play fg's to get money. You won't see a return on investment, for sure, since fighting games pay relatively low---and like extremely low compared to other sports with an ingrained coaching culture like tennis or boxing. The hobby angle is another interesting, though. In that sense, it's like paying money for piano lessons or guitar lessons--it will for sure help you improve quicker, but only if you practice. I disagree with the idea that if you're paying for coaching early on that you probably don't have the competitive drive. Most world class musicians have extremely rigorous lessons and practice insane amounts of time specifically to be the best (and for orchestral players, the pay is actually close to as bad as the FGC). I'd be interested to see a conversation about this or maybe some kind of reflection on the Sajam slam coaching you did, because that's a good test case for how well coaching works.
This is how awful it is in America. In Japan a random viewer isn't going to harm you as compared in a western country which is funny. He went there because people there aren't insane. There's still a chance obviously but it's way way lower than in other countries.
Asian streamers in general, not just in fgc or even gaming are very open to fan interaction when compared to the US. You'd be surprised that even female streamers are hanging out with fans IRL.
It’s easy to find tech guides on how to add cards to your deck, so many guides on how to add tools to your box, but there are very few good resources on how to use those cards or tools most effectively. For every 1000 combos videos there is 1 video on how to play neutral or how to open people up. Sajam is one of the one dudes who is constantly dropping high level techniques and teaching yourself how to use your cards. It can be kind of abstract and not a video that gets a lot of of views but it would be nice if more top creators gave more lessons on winning neutral instead of the millions of resources on what to do after neutral is already won. Those videos are out there but they can be hard to find in the sea of rookie to diamond tech. Once place a coach is beneficial is breaking your bad habits since you don’t know how to use your tools some of them you might use poorly and not realize since your could still have a decent win rate and not sure how to improve it further. How to go from 60 to 75 percent win rate on your own often it’s hard to say.
gonna chime in on the japan washing machine topic i live in an apt in tokyo and dont have a washing machine in my apartment so i use a nearby coin laundry place (which are very plentiful in tokyo)
Coaching is just a multiplier on your own efforts. A player who trains 5 hours a day with coaching is going to get to a higher level faster than someone who is playing 5 hours without. Both of those players are going to be better and get better faster than someone who only plays a couple hours a week with coaching. In addition, we are seeing pros getting private coaching from other pros who are stronger at their weak points, or character specialists when they are switching mains or training an alt. All professional athletes have coaches, of course. Chess pros all have coaches (Peter Heine Nielsen famously coached Anand and Magnus Carlson to their 9 combined world championships). Great players will be great players with or without coaching, but a coach is an objective third party expert who can analyze your game in ways that you yourself can't see because you are in it. For example, you might get frustrated because your reactions are bad and grind reactions for weeks hard stuck in plat if Daigo didn't sit behind him for 10 minutes and say "hey man your reactions aren't actually the problem right now you need to train your offense first." That single interaction got him closer to winning a tournament than a week of grinding on his own. At a certain point you "graduate" and just join the pro scene and train with peers who all coach each other, but I don't think getting coaching should be stigmatized, since it could help a talented, dedicated player get to the next level faster, and it is a really great opportunity for pros to make extra income. The FGC is kind of allergic to making money though, so it doesn't surprise me that when people hate on somebody getting a bag, and people have to do their side hustle in secret so people don't accuse them of scamming or selling out.
Interesting how Americans find so amazing when people have washing machines at home. I guess they feel the same when they find out about public health care.
I disagree with you on the coaching/teaching stuff vs the internet. I have quite a bit of experience in both being coached and coaching others in a certain field and the power of, as you say, structured, hands on approach is invaluable. There are multiple reasons for this, but the most important one, at least from my experience, is the (potential, depending on the quality of the mentor) prevention of bad habits, bad resources or bad approaches. These can set you back years, if not decades, depending on the skill you're training. I've seen people with 20 years of experience having to "empty their glass" simply because they started incorrectly and needed to basically restart the entire thing. Internet is very fast, but it's also very finnicky. The ability to discern good advice from bad is basically hidden and the burden of that is on the student and that has a 50/50 chance of turning out really, really bad. Even with a coach/teacher/professor, it can be bad, not every professional is good at what they do, actually, especially in something that doesn't have immediate understandable consequences. Let alone with internet resources. With fg's, I feel this is even more pronounced than with other genres, especially if played on stick, as people tend to wing their hand position and basically everything regarding placement, pressing buttons, stick etc. and that can mess them up a year later or even later than that. I speak from personal experience. Choosing coaching is a wise choice (aside from it being a financial one as well, of course) and I don't see where your view of lack of drive comes from. It could very well be the other way around, a person is ready to invest into whatever they want to master, that can be a showing of dedication or definite decision. Case in point, from your guitar example, if you did the "bad diagonal left hand position" thing, your coach would physically move your hand into the proper position and explain to you what the reasoning behind it is. This is something that looks like it can be derived from youtube lessons, but in actuality, it's both easy to overlook and to not actually notice the difference. The coach literally moving your hand into position is very different and way more potent than anything on the internet. A rushed example on my side, but it just crossed my mind since you mentioned guitar.
Coaching in video games is the same as having a teacher in any other discipline. Sure you could learn playing piano by visiting piano forums and watching UA-cam videos but you sure as hell won't improve as fast as getting an actual teacher. Same goes with playing sports. And just like those activities, your mileage my vary with who you find as a teacher. Also their teaching styles matter a lot. Going through many different teachers / coaches will give you a sense of what works for you and what doesn't. People should stop looking down at people who seek coaching and the coaches in video games. I don't agree with what Brian says about beginners paying for coaching. You get the MOST gains in the beginning by having a coach because they'll quickly steer you in the right direction instead of you wasting your time with trial and error. If you ask any professional performing musician if they had a teacher when they were a kid, I'll guarantee you 99% of them did.
Instead of going to someones house and live streaming it, you could go to a local (or anywhere) offline event and offer coaching ahead of time. Block out some time to sit with a few people. That might be some interesting content.
Not really rare, but not standard either. Lots of newer apartments have those tiny ultra efficient washers/dryer combos like the one this guy has. Most of the internals are plastic and it basically just spins the clothes mostly dry like those swimsuit dryers you see in in swimming pool changing rooms sometimes.
I lowkey disagree that all the resources to learn fighting games at a deep, competitive, TOURNAMENT level are out there for free. Maybe they are in street fighter, it's not my main game. But I know for a fact in the GG community there are a ton of "pros"/top players whatever you wanna call 'em that keep info that they consider powerful to themselves and their innermost circles that you really can't find with any amount of digging. OSs, strategies, even ideas. I don't like the practice myself at all even though I understand why they do it, which is to maintain a competitive edge. I'm a big advocate for lifting your community up however you can, be it sharing your knowledge or teaching those interested, offering people rides (that you are comfortable offering a ride to of course) to your local who don't have the means to get themselves there normally, etc. It makes for better competition which is pretty inarguably how and why we grow as players and deepen our understanding of the game. But there's certainly no denying that, at least in the GG scene, one of the big reasons people pay for coaching is because some of it is info you cannot get yourself unless you manage to come to the same conclusions yourself. It's genuinely really difficult without the perspectives of players who have had years to cultivate and fit together the perspectives and ideas of those around them before you, which is another big reason I think people pay for coaching in general.
Brian, your take here is only seeing half the equation. I would say someone who chooses to pay for coaching instead of eating, in this economy, is more than dedicated compared to someone getting it for free...
Teaching and coaching overlap. Even a relatively high-level player can benefit from someone who understands how to analyse technique and how to frame criticism. There are plenty of UA-cam videos nowadays that will tell you how to do something. But unless you have a person who knows what to look for and how to look for it, it can be difficult to know if you're doing something correctly.
Definitely an American mentality with all the concern about getting rando slaughtered. I'm an American and I get it. But not everywhere is so unsafe as to not want to connect with people. It's so cool he did that and such a relief Asia is still a place you CAN do it
Reaction videos, the lowest rank on the tier list of youtube content. This guy took the time to get out there and visit a fan and give him a bit of coaching. You ate something boring and looked at it and said words. Go do it too! It would be much more interesting you see. You do have fans.
Brian you're welcome to visit my house for Coaching I live at 5337 E Grand Ave, Dallas, TX 75223 Ignore the smell, I play Rashid so I neglect neutral so I neglect cleaning my room too so i can be more immersived
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i love how daigo always looks like he just woke up from a nap
😂😂
It’s honestly SO fitting that the very first footage a lot of non-Japanese players ever saw of him (not his gameplay, but him the actual physical person) _literally was_ him waking up from a nap. Famous silly FGC video from the pre-SF4 days.
Edit: “Daigo sleeping on a table”
Uploaded 18 years ago holy s*** lol
He IS a nurse for a living, so I'm not surprised that he's perpetually tired.
Wait really? Is he still a nurse as of today? @CrimsonMoonM
@@nikhiljehman6388 he was working in a nursing home during the time between the Daigo parry clip and him returning for SF4, no idea if he was working during SF4/5. He probably makes enough from streaming nowadays to not need a day job.
Excited to see Brian visit a random viewer's house for coaching
Brian you’re welcome to drop by my house. I don’t have time to play fighting games right now but I did just put on a big pot of chili.
I hope he comes to Brazil
I could see him breaking into someone's house in the middle of the night to make sure they've practiced their anti-airs.
@@Squiddy00 Yeah, you attempt to enter their home from the second floor. If they manage to keep you out, they’re doing a great job. If you make it in, then they’ve got work to do.
He visited my house but all i got was a double decker
Daigo said, "I didn't try to become king. The royal castle was built where I was."
His eccentricities also attract people😂
There are tons of free resources everywhere , however with coaching , you are paying for two valuable things :
1 . The coach has all of the knowledge already in one place so you dont have to watch hours and hours of content to find stuff .
2 . (most important) The coach will steer you away from the stuff that is either beyond your current level or gimicks / techniques that will bring wins at your current level but will teach you bad habits or neglect fundamentals that will cause you to plateau prematurely .
3: the coach will be there in person to comfort you during hard times. Imagine burying your face in brians succulent chest after a rough session, one thing leads to another, and before you know it youre married with 7 kids
Also, in my opinion,
3. The coach is a physical human being who has taken their time to help you. That adds pressure to learn quickly and not waste their time which you see as precious. Compare this to self learning which can be easy to distract yourself from.
Imagine you just joking around about getting him arrive to your house to coach, then he really indeed came.
He really came😩😫😳
Lol. "You're the Platinum."
500k or dinner with daigo 🤔
depends, 500,000 what? flicks on the ear?
@@lostree1981 I'll take 500k flicks.
Ill take yaoi dinner with daigo
I love daigo, but imma take that 500k
Its gonna be in yen, since we in japan currently @OP-er3fg
Still a lot but not as much
I love the distinction between teacher and coach ! Beginners need a teacher ; advanced players might benefit from a coach .
he wouldn't get murdered, he'd just parry
Brian F at 5am at your door: Alright man. I am gonna throw wrenches at you. You gotta learn to block.
Lol
I need to clean my room before inviting such important guests
Facts I hate dirty rooms😮😂
That's his room after he cleaned
Infiltration came 9th at evo 2009 having never played a fighting game before, because Laugh taught him. Admittedly a niche case, but if you have the drive to put in 12-14 hour days and someone to answer all your questions, see all your errors without having to research or think about it, your time can be simply used to improve.
Some people, who may be very intelligent and capable in other ways, simply are not very good at teaching themselves a new skill. It's just a matter of people being different. Those people would benefit greatly from a teacher.
“Gamers are never beating the smelly allegations”
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“Dank Josh thanks for the prime”
Bro that arrow works. I had my eyeballs like a mm away from the screen to see if daigos face was bruised😂
I got coached once (for free, by a cool guy) and went from stuck in Diamond 4 to Master in a few days. I just did not know what I did not know. Would I have made it by myself eventually? Maybe, but also maybe I would've gotten burned out and pissed for a long time.
I usually learn better by myself but occasional guided sessions can be very helpful.
I feel like the value of coaching at a beginner level in the FGC lies primarily in having someone filter the information for you, as fighting games can feel super overwhelming for newcomers.
Wait a minute.THIS IS A REACTION VIDEO. I just sat my ass down and watch brain watch someone else do something while he eats. And it took me until finishing the vid to realise
I don't think that people who want coaching don't have the right mindset or aren't determined. That's kind of a snob thing to say. Sometimes it's just hard to learn things without help. I mean if you ever watched a combo video or looked for character information, technically you got coached. Only difference is that those people have the coach actually there to answer their questions in real time. Having this back and forth can help make things "click" a little faster. It's just that.
Nothing better than being a Brian prime sub, wake up in the morning and Brian is making a cup of coffee in your kitchen like nothing happened.
I feel like coaches can help you see the gaps, at every level. They can't make you Godlike, but they can help you prioritize on what to work on to get on the next level.
Never took paid coaching, but talking with someone better at the game while analyzing helped me leaving the Plateau I was on. It would've taken me weeks and months to break it if I tried it alone.
IMO a good coach does 3 things, they mirror back to you what you're good at, what you're bad at, and what you should be focusing on for the next few weeks.
But in the end all they do is guide you to improvement.
You're overreacting he lives in Japan it's chill unless you are the prime minister/support the old monarchy
It’s Japan. Of course it’s safe.
Daigo looks more tired than your average salaryman.
Brian it was a pleasure meeting you at EVO and I'm shocked you didn't take up my offer to come visit my home (kidding). I do disagree with a few of your takes on coaching, though. The way I hear you discuss a beginner seeking out a coach and lacking motivation reminds me of someone who is planning on going to the gym, so they buy new clothes, supplements, a membership, do every step BUT go to the gym. That's true. This happens often. But in a fighting game, I would argue, that someone who books a coach is more invested in improvement than the average person (financial situtation not withstanding, I'm sure some people would do it but cannot for whatever reason). You've made a YT career making wonderful videos on this topic with many of them being educational; many self motivated players will watch your guides and your content to help themselves improve, while simultaneously seeking advice from rivals, friends, and foes in the myriad of posts on Reddit and discussions on Discord servers. You are, in many ways, a coach yourself. Direct coaching is just another avenue for self improvement. I have worked with the same coach for over a season; that activity, along with playing SF6, has become literally one of my favorite activities and hobbies. The act of objective self improvement is extremely therapeutic for me. Now, I understand, I'm not someone who just randomly picked up an FG and have been playing FG's for decades (I'm 34 y/o) so I may not be the person you meant - and I do agree that in the early days of your SF6 career a coach is going to bring you extremely diminished returns from an ROI perspective but if you're bronze and you want to get a coach, do it! Anything that is going to increase your engagement in this absolutely GOATed game is a positive and you should GO FOR IT. Anyways, Brian, I'll put my money where my mouth is! I will do my best to make it to your bracket on Saturday in the next open major we both attend and settle this discourse in a BO3 as the Gods of the FGC intended
Must be nice living in a country where you can trust a stranger like that 😢
i have been playing for like 1200 hours and im still stuck in diamond with the 1 character I play, I don't absorb text based info well, and I find videos only help until you have questions about things not mentioned in the vid, or easily explained through text. I think a coach doing live training and match stuff would probably go hella far for me lol
Once you reach high diamond you generally have most of the cards in your deck and now the lessons to be learned are much more abstract high level techniques.
A coach can def help but I think Sajam has the most videos about higher level techniques not often explained if a coach is not available.
That’s what’s so hard at a high level you have all these cards all these tools you be aquiring from rookie to diamond and now you gotta learn how to use them best and a coach can show you how you’ve been using them inefficiently much quicker than you can teach yourself but I do think someone like Sajam can help you figure some of it out on your own.
I'm interested in the coaching and the FGC. I haven't used coaching myself (I'm too low level for it to be necessary imo, but I'd consider it if I got more advanced), but I find the negative attitude toward coaching interesting. The idea that it's a "scam" comes, I think, from a competitive mindset where people feel like they play fg's to get money. You won't see a return on investment, for sure, since fighting games pay relatively low---and like extremely low compared to other sports with an ingrained coaching culture like tennis or boxing.
The hobby angle is another interesting, though. In that sense, it's like paying money for piano lessons or guitar lessons--it will for sure help you improve quicker, but only if you practice. I disagree with the idea that if you're paying for coaching early on that you probably don't have the competitive drive. Most world class musicians have extremely rigorous lessons and practice insane amounts of time specifically to be the best (and for orchestral players, the pay is actually close to as bad as the FGC).
I'd be interested to see a conversation about this or maybe some kind of reflection on the Sajam slam coaching you did, because that's a good test case for how well coaching works.
Love the Escape from the City song in the background
0:59 Daigo keeping it real
Thank Josh cut at the end!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAH! Perfection!
Next: "Pro player surprises fan knocking at his door to teach him broken tech. Look what happened!".
Sajam slam is a good example on why having a teacher/coach is very useful. If you can and want to afford it.
Don't worry Daigo's cousin Dora will go look for him in no time ez
I think when you hit a wall, having someone else take a look can help you break through it.
11:57 figured this out years ago im baffled. People don't understand this concept 😂
This is how awful it is in America. In Japan a random viewer isn't going to harm you as compared in a western country which is funny. He went there because people there aren't insane. There's still a chance obviously but it's way way lower than in other countries.
Here in europe things used to be a bit better before the mass immigration
But big cities could be sketchy still
But Europe is still quite safe in a lot of areas
3:25 Alcreme on da couch, man of culture
Asian streamers in general, not just in fgc or even gaming are very open to fan interaction when compared to the US. You'd be surprised that even female streamers are hanging out with fans IRL.
Daigo would not like my apartment
having a washing machine in tokyo is actually not common at all, you're not wrong for being surpried
It’s easy to find tech guides on how to add cards to your deck, so many guides on how to add tools to your box, but there are very few good resources on how to use those cards or tools most effectively.
For every 1000 combos videos there is 1 video on how to play neutral or how to open people up.
Sajam is one of the one dudes who is constantly dropping high level techniques and teaching yourself how to use your cards.
It can be kind of abstract and not a video that gets a lot of of views but it would be nice if more top creators gave more lessons on winning neutral instead of the millions of resources on what to do after neutral is already won.
Those videos are out there but they can be hard to find in the sea of rookie to diamond tech.
Once place a coach is beneficial is breaking your bad habits since you don’t know how to use your tools some of them you might use poorly and not realize since your could still have a decent win rate and not sure how to improve it further. How to go from 60 to 75 percent win rate on your own often it’s hard to say.
gonna chime in on the japan washing machine topic
i live in an apt in tokyo and dont have a washing machine in my apartment so i use a nearby coin laundry place (which are very plentiful in tokyo)
Coaching is just a multiplier on your own efforts. A player who trains 5 hours a day with coaching is going to get to a higher level faster than someone who is playing 5 hours without. Both of those players are going to be better and get better faster than someone who only plays a couple hours a week with coaching. In addition, we are seeing pros getting private coaching from other pros who are stronger at their weak points, or character specialists when they are switching mains or training an alt. All professional athletes have coaches, of course. Chess pros all have coaches (Peter Heine Nielsen famously coached Anand and Magnus Carlson to their 9 combined world championships). Great players will be great players with or without coaching, but a coach is an objective third party expert who can analyze your game in ways that you yourself can't see because you are in it. For example, you might get frustrated because your reactions are bad and grind reactions for weeks hard stuck in plat if Daigo didn't sit behind him for 10 minutes and say "hey man your reactions aren't actually the problem right now you need to train your offense first." That single interaction got him closer to winning a tournament than a week of grinding on his own. At a certain point you "graduate" and just join the pro scene and train with peers who all coach each other, but I don't think getting coaching should be stigmatized, since it could help a talented, dedicated player get to the next level faster, and it is a really great opportunity for pros to make extra income. The FGC is kind of allergic to making money though, so it doesn't surprise me that when people hate on somebody getting a bag, and people have to do their side hustle in secret so people don't accuse them of scamming or selling out.
Interesting how Americans find so amazing when people have washing machines at home. I guess they feel the same when they find out about public health care.
Most Americans have washing machines at home, most apartments in Tokyo actually don't.
Subbing right now to have a chance to Brine_F to go to Brazil to coach me.
Bro would wonder whether he hears gunshots or fireworks 🤣
I MADE IT IN THE VID LETSGO
when are you meeting up with brian
As a 25 year old, I'm sad now
you read the title incorrectly , impromptu not important. totally agree about the coaching.
this is pretty cool of Daigo lol
I disagree with you on the coaching/teaching stuff vs the internet. I have quite a bit of experience in both being coached and coaching others in a certain field and the power of, as you say, structured, hands on approach is invaluable. There are multiple reasons for this, but the most important one, at least from my experience, is the (potential, depending on the quality of the mentor) prevention of bad habits, bad resources or bad approaches. These can set you back years, if not decades, depending on the skill you're training. I've seen people with 20 years of experience having to "empty their glass" simply because they started incorrectly and needed to basically restart the entire thing.
Internet is very fast, but it's also very finnicky. The ability to discern good advice from bad is basically hidden and the burden of that is on the student and that has a 50/50 chance of turning out really, really bad. Even with a coach/teacher/professor, it can be bad, not every professional is good at what they do, actually, especially in something that doesn't have immediate understandable consequences. Let alone with internet resources.
With fg's, I feel this is even more pronounced than with other genres, especially if played on stick, as people tend to wing their hand position and basically everything regarding placement, pressing buttons, stick etc. and that can mess them up a year later or even later than that. I speak from personal experience. Choosing coaching is a wise choice (aside from it being a financial one as well, of course) and I don't see where your view of lack of drive comes from. It could very well be the other way around, a person is ready to invest into whatever they want to master, that can be a showing of dedication or definite decision.
Case in point, from your guitar example, if you did the "bad diagonal left hand position" thing, your coach would physically move your hand into the proper position and explain to you what the reasoning behind it is. This is something that looks like it can be derived from youtube lessons, but in actuality, it's both easy to overlook and to not actually notice the difference. The coach literally moving your hand into position is very different and way more potent than anything on the internet. A rushed example on my side, but it just crossed my mind since you mentioned guitar.
Coaching in video games is the same as having a teacher in any other discipline. Sure you could learn playing piano by visiting piano forums and watching UA-cam videos but you sure as hell won't improve as fast as getting an actual teacher. Same goes with playing sports. And just like those activities, your mileage my vary with who you find as a teacher. Also their teaching styles matter a lot. Going through many different teachers / coaches will give you a sense of what works for you and what doesn't. People should stop looking down at people who seek coaching and the coaches in video games.
I don't agree with what Brian says about beginners paying for coaching. You get the MOST gains in the beginning by having a coach because they'll quickly steer you in the right direction instead of you wasting your time with trial and error. If you ask any professional performing musician if they had a teacher when they were a kid, I'll guarantee you 99% of them did.
Is it safe? Lemme just check the frame data real quick.
when you coming to my house Brian to get me to to 1700MR?
Instead of going to someones house and live streaming it, you could go to a local (or anywhere) offline event and offer coaching ahead of time. Block out some time to sit with a few people. That might be some interesting content.
Brian come to my house, I pay you the flight and food
To be fair, I can see this not being as scary in Japan. Social contracts are different you know.
Itd be less dangerous if they went to an arcade to do it
Washing machines are rare in Japanese apartments
Not really rare, but not standard either. Lots of newer apartments have those tiny ultra efficient washers/dryer combos like the one this guy has. Most of the internals are plastic and it basically just spins the clothes mostly dry like those swimsuit dryers you see in in swimming pool changing rooms sometimes.
its Japan not the USA lol.
In my country, not safe. In Japan, of course
I pay for coaching and it's super worth it and i was already putting a ton of time before getting coaching .
Also mena gets coaching sooooo
I lowkey disagree that all the resources to learn fighting games at a deep, competitive, TOURNAMENT level are out there for free. Maybe they are in street fighter, it's not my main game. But I know for a fact in the GG community there are a ton of "pros"/top players whatever you wanna call 'em that keep info that they consider powerful to themselves and their innermost circles that you really can't find with any amount of digging. OSs, strategies, even ideas. I don't like the practice myself at all even though I understand why they do it, which is to maintain a competitive edge. I'm a big advocate for lifting your community up however you can, be it sharing your knowledge or teaching those interested, offering people rides (that you are comfortable offering a ride to of course) to your local who don't have the means to get themselves there normally, etc. It makes for better competition which is pretty inarguably how and why we grow as players and deepen our understanding of the game. But there's certainly no denying that, at least in the GG scene, one of the big reasons people pay for coaching is because some of it is info you cannot get yourself unless you manage to come to the same conclusions yourself. It's genuinely really difficult without the perspectives of players who have had years to cultivate and fit together the perspectives and ideas of those around them before you, which is another big reason I think people pay for coaching in general.
Brian, your take here is only seeing half the equation. I would say someone who chooses to pay for coaching instead of eating, in this economy, is more than dedicated compared to someone getting it for free...
In Japan, yes
Teaching and coaching overlap. Even a relatively high-level player can benefit from someone who understands how to analyse technique and how to frame criticism.
There are plenty of UA-cam videos nowadays that will tell you how to do something. But unless you have a person who knows what to look for and how to look for it, it can be difficult to know if you're doing something correctly.
the fgc being so anti coaching always felt so behind. Even in casual hobbies people hired coaches
is Brian a Sonic fan?
No it's his editor choosing the music. Brian has no idea what most of his background music is.
Come on over brine
we used to be a proper country.
It’s less scary if you aren’t living in the US. Lmao.
Definitely don't try this in America. You will likely get robbed or die😂😢
Day 1 of asking BrineF to coach me at my house
Bro come over to my house it's dope and we got a new gym. The REP pr 5000 is a nice rack.
Definitely an American mentality with all the concern about getting rando slaughtered. I'm an American and I get it. But not everywhere is so unsafe as to not want to connect with people. It's so cool he did that and such a relief Asia is still a place you CAN do it
With the prices most of the coaches want in the fgc its a scam.
Half the video is you pausing the original video and talk over it. Really 😅
It’s not worth the risk
Eating on camera and talking is so annoying it's one of my pet peeves lol. I couldn't even watch the video
Reaction videos, the lowest rank on the tier list of youtube content.
This guy took the time to get out there and visit a fan and give him a bit of coaching.
You ate something boring and looked at it and said words.
Go do it too! It would be much more interesting you see. You do have fans.
You're on a clips channel.
Sir this is clips channel
You realise that this channel has more variety than this?
Brian_Ume
Brian you're welcome to visit my house for Coaching I live at 5337 E Grand Ave, Dallas, TX 75223
Ignore the smell, I play Rashid so I neglect neutral so I neglect cleaning my room too so i can be more immersived