Sya dri sabah toi sya pkir ada logiknya kenapa dia tuntut, sbb daerah semporna,lahad datu ,sandakan dn kunak sngt dekat dgn kesultanan sulu dari segi bangsa .
@@OtwoVapeshopaku teda kena mengena sma derang aku org sabah juga. dia mau claim sampai sipitang ka tu brunei lagi dekat okay. Kau punya kenyataan ni mcm pengkhianat seja bro.
i'm malaysian also live in sabah,and i repect sulu people.but,they can't take sabah just like that...check the history pls.sabah is malaysia now....go see a historian sultan sulu maybe you will understand....btw sultan sulu speak engilsh properly.if you keep killing our people we will never sit and watch,we will fight till the end. WE WILL NEVER GIVE UP.
i'm sabahan and I don't want be part of phillipine(sulu) the reason sultan sulu want claim back Sabah because Sabah is rich now (greedy) but that no gonna happen we won'tbe part of you!! I love Malaysia!
memang kami suluk tapi tidak semua sulu jahat. saya sendiri lahir sabah ba, tapi kalau betul sultan sulu nak ambil sabah bingcanglah baik baik jangan pula sampai tertumpa darah.yang tinggal di sabah ni manusia.maulung na kamu kamuk/ mabayak kami aman in sabah//? tiada kacau macam sebelumnya. sekarang dug dap dug dap in jantung....,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
suatu ketika dahulu kesultanan kesultanan islam di nusantara sangat lah dan amat lah penting dalam menjalin hubungan yang baik dan bijaksana antara sesama kesultanan tersebut.mereka saling memberi bantuan/sokongan supaya dapat menjalani tugas tugas kesultanannya.rakyat filipina kala itu hampir semua muslim tapi mereka dijajah bangsa bengis barat dan terpaksa menjadi kristen.andai kita sadar sesungguhnya kita semua dari satu bangsa besar MELAYU terutamanya lagi juga ISLAM.sebangsa dan sedarah !!!
My point of view , No matter how desperate we are , we shouldn't become a trouble maker for other. Recall the so call "Royal Army" back to Philippine. Shouldn't do by Saitan Sulu in this Incident 1) The Saitan Sulu make international country laugh at Philippine and Malaysia 2) Make enemy on both country Malaysia & Philippine 3) Committed CRIME on both country while DOING CLAIM ON NORTH BORNEO 4) Embarrass the Philippine President infront of everyone
I also Roman Catholic , As we said before , These man Come here with Guns , Here is the point , 1) Do not take Guns to other Country 2) Do not go to people land without approval 3) Do not let the Citizen involve into Terror situation . All these are the basic law , even we Human without law , as baby also should understand the reason . why a 74 yrs old man did not understand and committed a crime Internationally ??? Reason Simple 1) Greedy 2) Like to make sound (War)
We are sabahan. We own sabah, not you. we born here and live here. We are part of Malaysia. We like living here and we will protect this land. We don't need anyone to be our sultan. We already have YDP Agong as our king. So please get out and leave sabah. Cry yourself and just regret the history but don't ever come and bother us anymore. Allah own this place, not sultan sulu.
To the Kirams .You should not have made enemies with Malaysia.I believe your first and foremost desire is to be a free territory . Malaysia could have been your friend because of Muslim brotherhood. You made a terrible mistake.
Sulu people from both Malaysia and Philippines share the same thought that Jamalul Kiram III and his family should not inherit the Sultanate of Sulu. Sulu people will never forget their dark history when their ancestors were massacred by American army in the 1900s after getting blessings from Sultan Kiram II (1884-1936). The tragedy happened in Bud Dahu in March 1906, followed by another massacre in December 1911 and the battle in Bud Bagsak in June 1913. In all, Sulu people lost 4,000 lives.
satu satunya untuk menyelamatkan anak bangsa melayu di nusantara ialah dengan menyatukan kembali wilayah wilayah yang tercerai berai menjadi satu negara'''thai selatan,malaysia,indonesia,brunei,philipina selatan bila perlu turut pula singapura'',siapa setuju?
Allahu akbar i am a muslim from peninsular of malaysia. ooooo sulu sultan you dont know what we capable of in a warfare. Allahu akbar Allahu akbar. may Allah blessed malaysia and the sabahan during War against the MURTADIN!!!!!!!
they are desperate. that is why. my point is that we as citizens of both Philippines and malaysia must refrain from using foul words because it will worsen the situation. lets just discuss this issue academically and avoid racist comments. we have governments to solve the problem. we are neighbors we should help each other. right?
Then why still pay for rent in 2013? When sabah is Malaysian "territory", Sabah is not always a part of Malaysia because it never was a part of it, you can say its a part of Brunei or Philippines but not Malaysia
@darrenminimo1127 , "rent"? Show proof that the payment was had been stopped since 2013 was for "rent". Show any "rent" agreement document that the name of the country "Malaysia" written in it.
Going back to history..... Sultan Julaspi Kiram was rescued by the Malaysian Government in 1959, and lived in Sabah before the goverment gave him a residence in Lorong Maarof, Bangsar in Kuala Lumpur. When Sabah joined Malaysia in 1963 Sultan Julaspi Kiram openly supported the move, leading to a front-page headline in a paper saying "Sultan Sulu Restu Sabah Sertai Malaysia (Sulu Sultan approved Sabah joining Malaysia).
Only the paid people joined Sabah to Malaysia but Sabah sovereignty is given to the Philippines the real owner of Sabah is our brother Muslim the royal sultanate of sulu.
Mohd Akjan however denied the coronation, saying the event was just a majlis doa selamat dan kesyukuran (Muslim thanksgiving ceremony). Sultan Hadji Rodinood, the eldest son of Sultan Julaspi Kiram is the rightful Heir to the thrones of Royal Sultanates of Sulu. No news of him since then.
SULU SULTANATE IS OLDER THAN PHILIPPINES. PHILIPPINES SHOUD GIVE SULU ISLAND TO THE SULTAN INSTEAD CLAIMING SABAH AS PART OF PHILIPPINES. SO SETTLE THAT FIRST BEFORE CLAIMING SABAH
A message for the Sultan of Sulu "Pls leave Sabah the way it is" Even the people of sabah dont want to be part of the Philippines Government or your own so called sultanate system. leave the Sabahan people leave the place,stop it pls. if youre really a leader you know how to forgive and protect people, not just your people but others as well. if sabah really belongs to sulu then just leave it like that.. sooner or later we all die.. we cant take this land with us..
thank you. i know we have different perceptions about this issue. lets just hope and pray that this will end peacefully to prevent more deaths. there is still time for our leaders to act and settle this problem.
Sultan Sulu for Sulu and Sultan North Borneo for Sabah ( North -Borneo ) olden days say that Sulu was part of North Borneo's Sultan Domain..or Empire ,Sultan Sulu has no Empire..its only an Island inhabited of Tribal Groups entitle as Dato or Datos..under Sultan of North - Borneo ..
Again,the commision's name was Cobbold Commission,headed by former Bank Of England governor named Lord Cobbold or his real name Cameron Cobbold. This means if this case brought to international Malaysia will win without any doubt.
Nope.Its not rent .It is just a token gift to symbolize the brotherhood. Same like how the royal family of Johor was said to be sponsoring the care for one cemetery in Bintan Island in Indonesia where many royal family members of Johor were buried.That doesn't mean the islanders own Johor.
Saya setuju lagi kalau Brunei tuntut Sabah & Sarawak, sebab Brunei tiada politik fitnah. Mata wang 2x ganda dengan Ringgit. Lagipun kalau bekerja di Brunei tiada cukai pendapatan.
kalian yang perlukan tenaga kami untuk membina dan membangun negaramu.kalian mencari kami,kalian yang butuh kami,kalian yang percayai kami,kalian yang merasa sepadan dengan kami,kalian tak dapat ini itu tanpa kami,kalian merasa setali dengan kami...dan kami sebagai tetangga terharu dan terperengah dengan kalian lalu sehingga kami pun merasa terpanggil untuk kesana oleh sebab kalian mengharapkan bantuan tenaga kerja kami...tenaga saudara sendiri,begitu bukan?masih kurang senang?indo lah kerabatmu
.....After thew death of Mahakuttah Kiram (the last Sultan of Sulu, who died in 1986), the Phillipine Goverment has not formally recognised any heir, leading many claimants from rival branches to proclaim themselves as the "real" 35th Sultan. Mahakuttah eldest son Muedzul-Lail Tan Kiram was crowned Sultan on September last year, and is one of the many claimants for his services. continued.....
gak ada kambing,cuma kucing2,anjing2,burung2 hias,aquarium,kolam ikan dengan ikan kooi dan mas,mujair dll.phon jambu air,klutuk,mangga,kedondong,nangka,duren dan sawo.pohon bambu mini jepun,anggrek,soka dll.
So they want a fight. its time to give them. they came without welcome, they rejected every choice of peace that we gave them and then took 7 lives unnecessarily. its time for this to end. teach them, teach them a lesson that u cannot came into this country without respect. we are kind enough to give you time, its time for you to know that our kindness is not to be mistaken as weakness.
"...to leave the island today...". Even the Philippines media didn't know the actual situation, and they wanted to talk about the issue. Sabah is NOT an island.
we Filipinos renounces war as a policy. you also dont know what Filipinos are capabale of in terms of warfare. if there is war all of us will suffer. peace from the Philippines!
defend your ownership through peaceful means. the sulu people went there for discussion with your government and they have valid claims. your government should treat them with respect and cater their issues on a proper manner and avoid using force. thats how civilize nations answer this kind of problem.
Sabah then known as NORTH BORNEO,theyself supported the proposal to create the Malaysia consisting themself n other. This commission was headed by former Bank of England governor. IT IS OBVIOUSLY THAT SABAH CHOOSE TO BE IN MALAYSIA.
The Bangsa Moro Sultanate recieved the monthly rental of the Malaysian Government as a bukti that Sabah owned by the Sultanate of Sulu & North Borneo,we urge Prime Minister Najib Abd Rajak to recognized them in order to create harmony and stability...for the sake of the whole government in particular.
ISSUE: Sulu sultanate in Philippine. 1) Where is the existence of the Sultanate of Sulu? 2)What is the name of the Sulu State? 3) Do Sulu Sultanate still exist? anyone confirm? Is there any evidence? 4) Are the Sultanate of Sulu in powered? where? 5) Where is the Government of Sultanate of Sulu? 6)Has the Philippine Governments recognize? NOTE: It's estimated there are about 60 Suluks claiming to be the Sultan of Sulu... and many more will do the same in the future...
nuklear itu memang cara menulis di malaysia,tetapi untuk memudahkan pembacaan dan pengejaan seharusnya ditulis nuklir.walaupun di indonesia juga ada cara pengejaan huruf2 seperti:soekarno tapi kini ejaan tersebut telah diubah menjadi sukarno.dan djakarta menjadi jakarta,tjelaka menjadi celaka,dzalim menjadi zalim,rakjat menjadi rakyat,hichmat menjadi hikmat...pengejaan secara belanda itu, semua telah diganti untuk membuat pengejaan menjadi mudah(disesuaikan untuk lidah orang melayu/indonesia).
We Filipinos doesn't approve the action done by the Sultanate of Sulu because it will destroy our friendship with our Malaysian Neighbors. We hope the Bloodshed will end. it does not help in the progress of both our countries and trade is affected. Oil that has been mined in Sabah Stretches all across the West Philippine Sea (south china sea) in Spratly's Island. Malaysia and The Philippines joined the war together against Smugglers and Terrorist.
Kenapa mahu ganggu keamanan Malaysia ? Sabah selamat dan selesa berada di bawah naungan Malaysia . Jika mahu kan Sabah, kenapa tidak dari dulu ? Setelah Malaysia berjaya memajukan Sabah, anda mahu menuntut hak ? Anda tidak layak ! Lagipun, nenek moyang anda sendiri yang menyerahkan Sabah kepada Malaysia . Anda jangan menjadi seorang yang tamak . Sekarang anda telah mengorbankan ramai pewira-pewira kami ! Anda seorang yang kejam ! Tolong berundur !
It is both parties esp The new Genaration.rethinking about the Perpaduan Ummah between Brunai Sulu n Malaysia.Muslim sentiasa d pernodohkn olih Sejarah.The Sultan of Brunai msia Ruler Sabahan Sulu to unite agaian as One Bansa.
Even if sulu win sabah war, their group will fight each other in sabah to be the ruler. Fight...fight...fight...until sabah becomes backwards just like their home.
hey! let me ask you again this very simple question even your little brother can answer this. why will you have to rent a land if you own it? very simple question right?
"in 1878 an agreement was signed by the Sultan of Sulu granting the North Borneo Chartered Company a permanent lease over the territory" also "as there is no desire from the actual people of Sabah to be part of the Philippines or of the Sultanate of Sulu" -Independence and formation of Malaysia
That Agreement was only between Sulu or Sultan of Sulu with British Company East India Company ..The Sultan of North Borneo ( The Land Lord ) was not present in That Deeds or without His Knowledge it was Sign and Agreed in The Island of Sulu where Located A Wooden Palace of Sultan of Sulu ..Not Sign and Agreed in The Palace of Sultan of North Borneo Located in Elopura ( Sandakan ) ..that Agreement was made or done or Accomplish as a result or out-Come derives from Conspiracy from Sulu 's Sultan and British Company ( East India Company ( After The demised or Death of Sultan of North Borneo Sabah..( from State Archive dokument by eye witness )..
Yes We already Independent , so we did not rules by sultan sulu or Philippine, or Malaysia and on the Independent we ask if we willing to Join Malaysia and we say "YES" This is call Voice of The People . If you like North Borneo so much , why dint you ask us to join you when we independent ???
tak hanya aku yang akan bergeming murka dengan mu,orang2 di malaysia mana pun kalau mereka mendengar ucapanmu ini dengan pastinya mereka akan merasa sebal/tak suka/marah dan benci akan kesombonganmu itu.engkau disini cuma cari musuh perdebatan yang berkepanjangan.....aku harap hatimu lurus tentram dan tidak rakus akan sok kehebatanmu itu weleh weleh
I'm paying RENT to my landlord for 3 years now. Next month, I will claim the place that it is mine and will drive the landlord away from it because he's bankrupt! (Well, I'm just confused how the term "RENT" is used between Malaysian gov't and Kiram clan.)
The term "rent" was never used. The term used all along was "cession" and the money paid yearly was termed as "cession money". "Cession" means "the formal giving up of rights, property, or territory by a state".
.Buka lah minda , buka lah hati kita sebagai umat muhammad yg terpuji...jika ada dalang disebalik semua yg berlaku, berikan lah pintu dan jalan kebenarannya..kenapa harus berakhir dgn titisan darah??? Astaghfirullah..astaghfirullah..astaghfirullah....kekejaman dan penghinaan tidak sepatutnya terjadi....BIMBINGLAH KAMI KE ARAH KEBENARAN YA RABBI...
I have friends as Sulu , They told me in your country Philippine , if they know the land is theirs , they will fight for it using GUN , no talking , see who still standing on the grounds do the talk , thats why alot of Philippine sulu come to malaysia finding himself a work. find a nice wife staying peacefully here , Even in this case , Philippine President Aquino calling the Group to recall them from Lahad Datu, did they ever listen ? do they do so ? how can he claim the land with this method?
dlu memang sbah pnah di jajah oleh sultan brunei tp stlah sultan sulu memolng sultan brunei mka sultan bvrunei menghadiah kan sbah kpda sultan sulu....pada msa itu hnya bangsa sul shaja yg ada di sabah....tapi stlah sultan sulu diugut bunuh oleh pihak inggeris beliau meminta petlongn dr tanah mlayu membantu beliau..lalu krajaan membantu beliau....setalah itu sabh di minta untuk masuk ke tanah mlayu dan di beri kemerdekaan,jadi bangsa sulu is sulu mlayu is mlayu....tgok la sejarah,,
We citizen of Sabah , we call ourself Sabahan , in other word sabah is our Motherland , We sabahn already choose to follow malaysia long time ago also . now you "come back: (intruder) with GUN !?
@charlie tan Unfortunately you are not getting Sabah, Sabah has been declared to be apart of Malaysia. Just calm down and make use of other things you have in your country, and let other country enjoy ours.
but who has the power not to escalate the tension? it is a matter of administration on how the malaysian government handles the group from the Philippines. the malaysian government did not listen and respect the group regarding their demands to talk about the issue diplomatically instead they fired sniper shots to the group. they carry guns to defend themselves because they are aware of the fact that the malaysian government will attack them. they have the right to defend themselves.
we ara all indonesian people in the whole world supporting SABAH belongs to SULU especially and PHILIPINE generally.......SO all the MALAYSIAN people who still live in SABAH....MUST LEAVE .....with NO CONDITIONS at all...
If MLNF can show solid proof that Malaysia Govt has been supporting MLNF, then please do so by advertising it. But DO NOT contact Utusan Malaysia, The Star or TV3 as they are all Malaysian Govt (BN) machinery. Perhaps you should make copies of the proof and forward to UN, since UN had been asked to step in to help resolve this issue. Secondly, if its true that beheading and torture had been imposed on the 8 Malaysian policemen who had died during the Lahad Datu invasion, then it reflects badly
this will not happen, SABAHAN is a free will democratic people . SABAHAN WILL NOT BOW DOWN TO this so called sultan that dont have any power and domain anymore. PEACE AND STABILITY MY ASS. just look at mindanao, sulu and tawi tawi ... IS THAT REALLY WHAT YOU CALLED PEACE AND STABILITY ?? ... check you brain and your eyes and see the BIG DIFFERENCE between this places.
Assallammualaikum! to all the families of the Sultanate of Sulu. as a fellow slave ALLAH in islam. I want to share the message Prophet s.a.w. If Prophet Muhammad Prophet saw in here this times, surely it's Rasullullah also disagree with this action, more shy when you profess to be a Muslim. do you want to hurt the Muslims who are in Malaysia now? consider? whether there is a mastermind behind all of this? remember! we do not follow the suggestions from devil or syaitan !
setuju dengan pendapat anda... manusia itu dengki dan khianat... siapa sulu... pengecut yng memberikan sabah kepada British dan kini dengan tidak ada malu .. mendatangkan bencana pada Sabah...
Well that won't happen.If ever a larger armed company deploys in Sabah.Either Philippine Armed Forces or Malaysian Armed forces would deploy its troops.
Ramai orang PINOY kat sini yang tak puas hati ngan Malaysia sebab Malaysia lebih baik dan maju dari mereka.Sorry lah Philipino kau kutuk macam mana pun benci macam mana pun , negara engkau tetap macam tu jugak 50 tahun kebelakang dari Malaysia.
Sultan Kiram III should repent, he does not have much time left in this world, his stubbornness lead to many lost of lives in Malaysian side and in the Abu Sayyaf group as well.
i cant blame them for doing such because nobody listens to them.. i respect them in their cause even if they are stubborn still they have reasons and they are still Filipinos. yes its true that the Philippine president recalls the group to ease the tension. our government also wants maximum tolerance from your government.
nah,kamu sudah agak luluh nampaknya sekarang,sudah menyadari bagaimana kamu harus mengetik nuklear menjadi nuklir.kamu sepertinya ada bakat jadi tukang jagal aku kira.bukan kah ada sebaiknya bekerja sebagai tukang daging saja(jawatan pemotongan hewan).sebentar lagi bulan puasa tiba dan lebaran idul fitri pun sudah hampir di depan mata.mereka memerlukan daging hewan2 mu.boleh juga menjadi boss jagal ,tinggal terima cash saja dari pekerja2 mu.sopan dan santun juga budi pekerti itu sudah bagiandiri
This person is not a true descendant of sultan sulu, He betrayed the people of Sulu, and also betrayed sulu armies to sacrifice their life for his own benefits ！
How can you own The land of Sabah..The State of Sabah was borned or existed from war between Intruder ( East India Company) and Bornean residents..The Sultan of Sulu had not fight with the intruder( British Company )..They were against Spanish ..How come Sabah own by Sultan of Sulu..Its the maharaja of Sabah Fought against The British..Which ensrine in Sabah Crest as Symbol of Winning The war ..
you know what there are just known rich of sabah gas oil and so on but nobody mentioned the sulu sultan exist only when sultan of brunei giving them for free land in history which is means brunei sultan today also can claim back sabah lor
sulu sultanate and their people may settle in indonesia in the east borneo and or also in gorontalo province.but they must become indonesians and speak indonesian too.especially in east borneo they can live and work for their activity's and to wait the process of their claiming for sabah.sabah should be given to sulu
this JOKER wants more money thats the reality but he doesnt know how to say PLEASE instead using his so call ROYAL SULU ARMY , with a strengh about 100 to stake a claim againts 28 milllion Malaysian people thats already living in harmony and properous for so many years.It is sad sad somebody has to die for this cause and not this guy and if you ask the people of Sabah, i strongly believe they dont want to be with this JOKER.My salute for the 2 policeman who died to defend this beloved country.
saya orang brunei dan saya menyokong malaysia.
No one ask
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Sya dri sabah toi sya pkir ada logiknya kenapa dia tuntut, sbb daerah semporna,lahad datu ,sandakan dn kunak sngt dekat dgn kesultanan sulu dari segi bangsa .
@@OtwoVapeshopaku teda kena mengena sma derang aku org sabah juga. dia mau claim sampai sipitang ka tu brunei lagi dekat okay. Kau punya kenyataan ni mcm pengkhianat seja bro.
i'm malaysian also live in sabah,and i repect sulu people.but,they can't take sabah just like that...check the history pls.sabah is malaysia now....go see a historian sultan sulu maybe you will understand....btw sultan sulu speak engilsh properly.if you keep killing our people we will never sit and watch,we will fight till the end. WE WILL NEVER GIVE UP.
i'm sabahan and I don't want be part of phillipine(sulu) the reason sultan sulu want claim back Sabah because Sabah is rich now (greedy) but that no gonna happen we won'tbe part of you!! I love Malaysia!
check the history kid..before u talk to us like idiot..sulu is not greedy..infact , i think u guys are greedy
memang kami suluk tapi tidak semua sulu jahat. saya sendiri lahir sabah ba, tapi kalau betul sultan sulu nak ambil sabah bingcanglah baik baik jangan pula sampai tertumpa darah.yang tinggal di sabah ni manusia.maulung na kamu kamuk/ mabayak kami aman in sabah//? tiada kacau macam sebelumnya. sekarang dug dap dug dap in jantung....,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
suatu ketika dahulu kesultanan kesultanan islam di nusantara sangat lah dan amat lah penting dalam menjalin hubungan yang baik dan bijaksana antara sesama kesultanan tersebut.mereka saling memberi bantuan/sokongan supaya dapat menjalani tugas tugas kesultanannya.rakyat filipina kala itu hampir semua muslim tapi mereka dijajah bangsa bengis barat dan terpaksa menjadi kristen.andai kita sadar sesungguhnya kita semua dari satu bangsa besar MELAYU terutamanya lagi juga ISLAM.sebangsa dan sedarah !!!
Itu btul meng inlam plipina..dulu pilipina.iya la mahallika.
My point of view , No matter how desperate we are , we shouldn't become a trouble maker for other. Recall the so call "Royal Army" back to Philippine.
Shouldn't do by Saitan Sulu in this Incident
1) The Saitan Sulu make international country laugh at Philippine and Malaysia
2) Make enemy on both country Malaysia & Philippine
3) Committed CRIME on both country while DOING CLAIM ON NORTH BORNEO
4) Embarrass the Philippine President infront of everyone
I also Roman Catholic , As we said before , These man Come here with Guns ,
Here is the point ,
1) Do not take Guns to other Country
2) Do not go to people land without approval
3) Do not let the Citizen involve into Terror situation .
All these are the basic law , even we Human without law , as baby also should understand the reason . why a 74 yrs old man did not understand and committed a crime Internationally ???
Reason Simple
1) Greedy
2) Like to make sound (War)
We are sabahan. We own sabah, not you. we born here and live here. We are part of Malaysia. We like living here and we will protect this land. We don't need anyone to be our sultan. We already have YDP Agong as our king. So please get out and leave sabah. Cry yourself and just regret the history but don't ever come and bother us anymore. Allah own this place, not sultan sulu.
That is not rent. That is a gift from Malaysian government to the poorest sultan ever.
To the Kirams .You should not have made enemies with Malaysia.I believe your first and foremost desire is to be a free territory . Malaysia could have been your friend because of Muslim brotherhood. You made a terrible mistake.
Sulu people from both Malaysia and Philippines share the same thought that Jamalul Kiram III and his family should not inherit the Sultanate of Sulu. Sulu people will never forget their dark history when their ancestors were massacred by American army in the 1900s after getting blessings from Sultan Kiram II (1884-1936). The tragedy happened in Bud Dahu in March 1906, followed by another massacre in December 1911 and the battle in Bud Bagsak in June 1913. In all, Sulu people lost 4,000 lives.
satu satunya untuk menyelamatkan anak bangsa melayu di nusantara ialah dengan menyatukan kembali wilayah wilayah yang tercerai berai menjadi satu negara'''thai selatan,malaysia,indonesia,brunei,philipina selatan bila perlu turut pula singapura'',siapa setuju?
We support the Government of Malaysia!!!!!!!
Sabah is philippines ok
And now the tru heirs of sultan of sulu magannakaw sila haram yun
Allahu akbar i am a muslim from peninsular of malaysia. ooooo sulu sultan you dont know what we capable of in a warfare. Allahu akbar Allahu akbar. may Allah blessed malaysia and the sabahan during War against the MURTADIN!!!!!!!
they are desperate. that is why. my point is that we as citizens of both Philippines and malaysia must refrain from using foul words because it will worsen the situation. lets just discuss this issue academically and avoid racist comments. we have governments to solve the problem. we are neighbors we should help each other. right?
hahak.,come on la.,nk tuntut sabah tp nk berucap pon tgok text
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claim somalia sekali kiram, sama spesis mcm sulu jugak banyak lanun..
JIKA MANA2 NEGARA MAHU KAN SABAH, JANGAN HARAP KAMI AKAN BAGI. SABAH IALAH MALAYSIA DAN SELAMANYA DALAM MALAYSIA !
Then why still pay for rent in 2013? When sabah is Malaysian "territory",
Sabah is not always a part of Malaysia because it never was a part of it, you can say its a part of Brunei or Philippines but not Malaysia
@@darrenminimo1127 You can say anything you want but that will never change the state of Sabah to a non Malaysian state.
@@ahmadizzatahmad7105 excuse me Filipinos are malays too but just mixed
@@darrenminimo1127 I know Filipinos are Malays too and since when I did say Filipinos are not Malays?
@darrenminimo1127 , "rent"? Show proof that the payment was had been stopped since 2013 was for "rent". Show any "rent" agreement document that the name of the country "Malaysia" written in it.
Going back to history.....
Sultan Julaspi Kiram was rescued by the Malaysian Government in 1959, and lived in Sabah before the goverment gave him a residence in Lorong Maarof, Bangsar in Kuala Lumpur.
When Sabah joined Malaysia in 1963 Sultan Julaspi Kiram openly supported the move, leading to a front-page headline in a paper saying "Sultan Sulu Restu Sabah Sertai Malaysia (Sulu Sultan approved Sabah joining Malaysia).
Only the paid people joined Sabah to Malaysia but Sabah sovereignty is given to the Philippines the real owner of Sabah is our brother Muslim the royal sultanate of sulu.
@@renleedativo1679
Fitnah and u the next statement u use islam name.. wow.
Next, supporting kafir. PH is kafir u know. They eat pork.
@@renleedativo1679 if you let the people of sabah vote again... i doubt they will vote to be with Philippines...
In eyes of all the countries in the world, sabah is philippines. That is the most important in this time. History will judge sabah.
@@rannarann9316 which world?
I open the map, wht nonsence u talking?
Mohd Akjan however denied the coronation, saying the event was just a majlis doa selamat dan kesyukuran (Muslim thanksgiving ceremony).
Sultan Hadji Rodinood, the eldest son of Sultan Julaspi Kiram is the rightful Heir to the thrones of Royal Sultanates of Sulu. No news of him since then.
SULU SULTANATE IS OLDER THAN PHILIPPINES. PHILIPPINES SHOUD GIVE SULU ISLAND TO THE SULTAN INSTEAD CLAIMING SABAH AS PART OF PHILIPPINES. SO SETTLE THAT FIRST BEFORE CLAIMING SABAH
A message for the Sultan of Sulu "Pls leave Sabah the way it is" Even the people of sabah dont want to be part of the Philippines Government or your own so called sultanate system. leave the Sabahan people leave the place,stop it pls. if youre really a leader you know how to forgive and protect people, not just your people but others as well. if sabah really belongs to sulu then just leave it like that.. sooner or later we all die.. we cant take this land with us..
thank you. i know we have different perceptions about this issue. lets just hope and pray that this will end peacefully to prevent more deaths. there is still time for our leaders to act and settle this problem.
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Sultan Sulu for Sulu and Sultan North Borneo for Sabah ( North -Borneo ) olden days say that Sulu was part of North Borneo's Sultan Domain..or Empire ,Sultan Sulu has no Empire..its only an Island inhabited of Tribal Groups entitle as Dato or Datos..under Sultan of North - Borneo ..
Again,the commision's name was Cobbold Commission,headed by former Bank Of England governor named Lord Cobbold or his real name Cameron Cobbold. This means if this case brought to international Malaysia will win without any doubt.
did malaysia win ?
$ 12.92 billion is waving to your country its means your country renting not paying the land it just renting ypu know WHAHHAHAHAHA
Hi Tanya, luv your statement!!
Sultan sulu da lama mati.....FILIPINA PUN BKN NEGARA ISLAM LAGI...FILIPINA PUN KITA BOLE CLAIMED SBB SULTAN SULU ASAL DARI NEGERI JOHOR
yeah i understand. as i said we can talk to this issue in a friendly manner to avoid hurting each others.
sultan of brunei never gave east Sabah to Sultan of suluk, u can read in Brunei history
I noticed most of the comments here is from malaysian, where are the comments from filipinos before? Deleted ? 🤔
Why there is no anyone look back at 1963 Manila Agreement? It is the key. You can decide which one is traitor...
Nope.Its not rent .It is just a token gift to symbolize the brotherhood.
Same like how the royal family of Johor was said to be sponsoring the care for one cemetery in Bintan Island in Indonesia where many royal family members of Johor were buried.That doesn't mean the islanders own Johor.
Saya setuju lagi kalau Brunei tuntut Sabah & Sarawak, sebab Brunei tiada politik fitnah. Mata wang 2x ganda dengan Ringgit. Lagipun kalau bekerja di Brunei tiada cukai pendapatan.
kalian yang perlukan tenaga kami untuk membina dan membangun negaramu.kalian mencari kami,kalian yang butuh kami,kalian yang percayai kami,kalian yang merasa sepadan dengan kami,kalian tak dapat ini itu tanpa kami,kalian merasa setali dengan kami...dan kami sebagai tetangga terharu dan terperengah dengan kalian lalu sehingga kami pun merasa terpanggil untuk kesana oleh sebab kalian mengharapkan bantuan tenaga kerja kami...tenaga saudara sendiri,begitu bukan?masih kurang senang?indo lah kerabatmu
dari 4 juta warga indonesia di malaysia tentu tak semua bernilai emas 24 karat...
.....After thew death of Mahakuttah Kiram (the last Sultan of Sulu, who died in 1986), the Phillipine Goverment has not formally recognised any heir, leading many claimants from rival branches to proclaim themselves as the "real" 35th Sultan. Mahakuttah eldest son Muedzul-Lail Tan Kiram was crowned Sultan on September last year, and is one of the many claimants for his services.
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malaysia people brave
gak ada kambing,cuma kucing2,anjing2,burung2 hias,aquarium,kolam ikan dengan ikan kooi dan mas,mujair dll.phon jambu air,klutuk,mangga,kedondong,nangka,duren dan sawo.pohon bambu mini jepun,anggrek,soka dll.
Freedom can pay with blood ,I hope our president have brave like royal of sulu.Mabuhay ang maharlikhang Kadatuan.
So they want a fight. its time to give them. they came without welcome, they rejected every choice of peace that we gave them and then took 7 lives unnecessarily. its time for this to end. teach them, teach them a lesson that u cannot came into this country without respect. we are kind enough to give you time, its time for you to know that our kindness is not to be mistaken as weakness.
"...to leave the island today...". Even the Philippines media didn't know the actual situation, and they wanted to talk about the issue. Sabah is NOT an island.
we Filipinos renounces war as a policy. you also dont know what Filipinos are capabale of in terms of warfare. if there is war all of us will suffer. peace from the Philippines!
defend your ownership through peaceful means. the sulu people went there for discussion with your government and they have valid claims. your government should treat them with respect and cater their issues on a proper manner and avoid using force. thats how civilize nations answer this kind of problem.
Sabah then known as NORTH BORNEO,theyself supported the proposal to create the Malaysia consisting themself n other. This commission was headed by former Bank of England governor. IT IS OBVIOUSLY THAT SABAH CHOOSE TO BE IN MALAYSIA.
Mostly malaysians voted, Filipinos/Sulus were just set aback
Not now beach.
sabah dulu cuma disewa oleh malaysia,sampai sekarang sewa masih dibayar pada sultan sulu.jadi sabah hak sulu.
The Bangsa Moro Sultanate recieved the monthly rental of the Malaysian Government as a bukti that Sabah owned by the Sultanate of Sulu & North Borneo,we urge Prime Minister Najib Abd Rajak to recognized them in order to create harmony and stability...for the sake of the whole government in particular.
just a small token..not more than that
ISSUE: Sulu sultanate in Philippine.
1) Where is the existence of the Sultanate of Sulu?
2)What is the name of the Sulu State?
3) Do Sulu Sultanate still exist? anyone confirm? Is there any evidence?
4) Are the Sultanate of Sulu in powered? where?
5) Where is the Government of Sultanate of Sulu?
6)Has the Philippine Governments recognize?
NOTE: It's estimated there are about 60 Suluks claiming to be the Sultan of Sulu... and many more will do the same in the future...
first try is a fail....2nd time ?? maybe a bigger fail..malaysia already ordered additional 18 astros ii MLRS system to be stationed in sabah..
that mean nothing.. if that territory a philippine land it will be recovered
@@melchirpomarva4841 when that land going to claimed? any update?🤣🤣🤣🤣, yeah kiram just get shit on🤣🤣
nuklear itu memang cara menulis di malaysia,tetapi untuk memudahkan pembacaan dan pengejaan seharusnya ditulis nuklir.walaupun di indonesia juga ada cara pengejaan huruf2 seperti:soekarno tapi kini ejaan tersebut telah diubah menjadi sukarno.dan djakarta menjadi jakarta,tjelaka menjadi celaka,dzalim menjadi zalim,rakjat menjadi rakyat,hichmat menjadi hikmat...pengejaan secara belanda itu, semua telah diganti untuk membuat pengejaan menjadi mudah(disesuaikan untuk lidah orang melayu/indonesia).
YES ITS LONG TIME AGO DUDE,BUT NOT NOW WHEN SABAH SUPPORT MALAYSIA
We Filipinos doesn't approve the action done by the Sultanate of Sulu because it will destroy our friendship with our Malaysian Neighbors. We hope the Bloodshed will end. it does not help in the progress of both our countries and trade is affected. Oil that has been mined in Sabah Stretches all across the West Philippine Sea (south china sea) in Spratly's Island. Malaysia and The Philippines joined the war together against Smugglers and Terrorist.
REALLY ?? WHERE THAT YOU GET THAT INFO??
Kenapa mahu ganggu keamanan Malaysia ? Sabah selamat dan selesa berada di bawah naungan Malaysia . Jika mahu kan Sabah, kenapa tidak dari dulu ? Setelah Malaysia berjaya memajukan Sabah, anda mahu menuntut hak ? Anda tidak layak ! Lagipun, nenek moyang anda sendiri yang menyerahkan Sabah kepada Malaysia . Anda jangan menjadi seorang yang tamak . Sekarang anda telah mengorbankan ramai pewira-pewira kami ! Anda seorang yang kejam ! Tolong berundur !
It is both parties esp The new Genaration.rethinking about the Perpaduan Ummah between Brunai Sulu n Malaysia.Muslim sentiasa d pernodohkn olih Sejarah.The Sultan of Brunai msia Ruler Sabahan Sulu to unite agaian as One Bansa.
Even if sulu win sabah war, their group will fight each other in sabah to be the ruler. Fight...fight...fight...until sabah becomes backwards just like their home.
let us just pray for peace..do not argue.. thanks
hey! let me ask you again this very simple question even your little brother can answer this. why will you have to rent a land if you own it? very simple question right?
"in 1878 an agreement was signed by the Sultan of Sulu granting the North Borneo Chartered Company a permanent lease over the territory" also "as there is no desire from the actual people of Sabah to be part of the Philippines or of the Sultanate of Sulu" -Independence and formation of Malaysia
That Agreement was only between Sulu or Sultan of Sulu with British Company East India Company ..The Sultan of North Borneo ( The Land Lord ) was not present in That Deeds or without His Knowledge it was Sign and Agreed in The Island of Sulu where Located A Wooden Palace of Sultan of Sulu ..Not Sign and Agreed in The Palace of Sultan of North Borneo Located in Elopura ( Sandakan ) ..that Agreement was made or done or Accomplish as a result or out-Come derives from Conspiracy from Sulu 's Sultan and British Company ( East India Company ( After The demised or Death of Sultan of North Borneo Sabah..( from State Archive dokument by eye witness )..
Yes We already Independent , so we did not rules by sultan sulu or Philippine, or Malaysia and on the Independent we ask if we willing to Join Malaysia and we say "YES" This is call Voice of The People .
If you like North Borneo so much , why dint you ask us to join you when we independent ???
tak hanya aku yang akan bergeming murka dengan mu,orang2 di malaysia mana pun kalau mereka mendengar ucapanmu ini dengan pastinya mereka akan merasa sebal/tak suka/marah dan benci akan kesombonganmu itu.engkau disini cuma cari musuh perdebatan yang berkepanjangan.....aku harap hatimu lurus tentram dan tidak rakus akan sok kehebatanmu itu weleh weleh
I'm paying RENT to my landlord for 3 years now. Next month, I will claim the place that it is mine and will drive the landlord away from it because he's bankrupt! (Well, I'm just confused how the term "RENT" is used between Malaysian gov't and Kiram clan.)
The term "rent" was never used. The term used all along was "cession" and the money paid yearly was termed as "cession money". "Cession" means "the formal giving up of rights, property, or territory by a state".
.Buka lah minda , buka lah hati kita sebagai umat muhammad yg terpuji...jika ada dalang disebalik semua yg berlaku, berikan lah pintu dan jalan kebenarannya..kenapa harus berakhir dgn titisan darah??? Astaghfirullah..astaghfirullah..astaghfirullah....kekejaman dan penghinaan tidak sepatutnya terjadi....BIMBINGLAH KAMI KE ARAH KEBENARAN YA RABBI...
Slacker - NOT Shameless - Traitor - Terrorists
Ansikutero - hindi makapal ang mukha - taksil - terorista
just pay him reasonably for making his land your beloved country
Imppusibru!The fact that we have to defend our maritime against China.We are also allied with Malaysia.
I have friends as Sulu , They told me in your country Philippine , if they know the land is theirs , they will fight for it using GUN , no talking , see who still standing on the grounds do the talk , thats why alot of Philippine sulu come to malaysia finding himself a work. find a nice wife staying peacefully here ,
Even in this case , Philippine President Aquino calling the Group to recall them from Lahad Datu, did they ever listen ? do they do so ? how can he claim the land with this method?
dlu memang sbah pnah di jajah oleh sultan brunei tp stlah sultan sulu memolng sultan brunei mka sultan bvrunei menghadiah kan sbah kpda sultan sulu....pada msa itu hnya bangsa sul shaja yg ada di sabah....tapi stlah sultan sulu diugut bunuh oleh pihak inggeris beliau meminta petlongn dr tanah mlayu membantu beliau..lalu krajaan membantu beliau....setalah itu sabh di minta untuk masuk ke tanah mlayu dan di beri kemerdekaan,jadi bangsa sulu is sulu mlayu is mlayu....tgok la sejarah,,
Its funny how MalaySHAM say Filipinos are poor, If MalaySHAM didnt fund the war in Mindanao Philippines would be 10x richer.
We citizen of Sabah , we call ourself Sabahan , in other word sabah is our Motherland ,
We sabahn already choose to follow malaysia long time ago also .
now you "come back: (intruder) with GUN !?
@charlie tan Unfortunately you are not getting Sabah, Sabah has been declared to be apart of Malaysia. Just calm down and make use of other things you have in your country, and let other country enjoy ours.
but who has the power not to escalate the tension? it is a matter of administration on how the malaysian government handles the group from the Philippines. the malaysian government did not listen and respect the group regarding their demands to talk about the issue diplomatically instead they fired sniper shots to the group. they carry guns to defend themselves because they are aware of the fact that the malaysian government will attack them. they have the right to defend themselves.
we ara all indonesian people in the whole world supporting SABAH belongs to SULU especially and PHILIPINE generally.......SO all the MALAYSIAN people who still live in SABAH....MUST LEAVE .....with NO CONDITIONS at all...
if history makes sense, the philipine also has no right to claim sulu island???
what I'm saying is you are not a responsible Sultan, you were not with your people during hard time, so it's up to sabahan to decide what they want..
hello SABAH MUST BE PART IN INDONESIA,WELCOME WELCOME FOR SABAHAN....
Considering the rate of immigration of the muslim pinos in to, it will happen regardless of whether it remains in Malaysia or in the Philippines,
This is the kind of president we should have. Firmness
If MLNF can show solid proof that Malaysia Govt has been supporting MLNF, then please do so by advertising it. But DO NOT contact Utusan Malaysia, The Star or TV3 as they are all Malaysian Govt (BN) machinery. Perhaps you should make copies of the proof and forward to UN, since UN had been asked to step in to help resolve this issue.
Secondly, if its true that beheading and torture had been imposed on the 8 Malaysian policemen who had died during the Lahad Datu invasion, then it reflects badly
this will not happen, SABAHAN is a free will democratic people . SABAHAN WILL NOT BOW DOWN TO this so called sultan that dont have any power and domain anymore. PEACE AND STABILITY MY ASS. just look at mindanao, sulu and tawi tawi ... IS THAT REALLY WHAT YOU CALLED PEACE AND STABILITY ?? ... check you brain and your eyes and see the BIG DIFFERENCE between this places.
Assallammualaikum! to all the families of the Sultanate of Sulu. as a fellow slave ALLAH in islam. I want to share the message Prophet s.a.w. If Prophet Muhammad Prophet saw in here this times, surely it's Rasullullah also disagree with this action, more shy when you profess to be a Muslim. do you want to hurt the Muslims who are in Malaysia now? consider? whether there is a mastermind behind all of this? remember! we do not follow the suggestions from devil or syaitan !
setuju dengan pendapat anda... manusia itu dengki dan khianat... siapa sulu... pengecut yng memberikan sabah kepada British dan kini dengan tidak ada malu .. mendatangkan bencana pada Sabah...
Well that won't happen.If ever a larger armed company deploys in Sabah.Either Philippine Armed Forces or Malaysian Armed forces would deploy its troops.
Ramai orang PINOY kat sini yang tak puas hati ngan Malaysia sebab Malaysia lebih baik dan maju dari mereka.Sorry lah Philipino kau kutuk macam mana pun benci macam mana pun , negara engkau tetap macam tu jugak 50 tahun kebelakang dari Malaysia.
malaysia = peace
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Sultan Kiram III should repent, he does not have much time left in this world, his stubbornness lead to many lost of lives in Malaysian side and in the Abu Sayyaf group as well.
Bila sabah dah maju baru nak claim , awat tak claim 50 tahun dulu . Sultan Sulu nak kesenangan
i cant blame them for doing such because nobody listens to them.. i respect them in their cause even if they are stubborn still they have reasons and they are still Filipinos. yes its true that the Philippine president recalls the group to ease the tension. our government also wants maximum tolerance from your government.
Nope,Sultanate of Sulu is part of Phillipine,but they are not verified by the government there.
Don’t call yourselves a muslim if you killed innocent muslim people in sabah
nah,kamu sudah agak luluh nampaknya sekarang,sudah menyadari bagaimana kamu harus mengetik nuklear menjadi nuklir.kamu sepertinya ada bakat jadi tukang jagal aku kira.bukan kah ada sebaiknya bekerja sebagai tukang daging saja(jawatan pemotongan hewan).sebentar lagi bulan puasa tiba dan lebaran idul fitri pun sudah hampir di depan mata.mereka memerlukan daging hewan2 mu.boleh juga menjadi boss jagal ,tinggal terima cash saja dari pekerja2 mu.sopan dan santun juga budi pekerti itu sudah bagiandiri
nothing to be scared of, the average Sabahan can buy this 'sultan'
This person is not a true descendant of sultan sulu, He betrayed the people of Sulu, and also betrayed sulu armies to sacrifice their life for his own benefits ！
We love sabah..
How can you own The land of Sabah..The State of Sabah was borned or existed from war between Intruder ( East India Company) and Bornean residents..The Sultan of Sulu had not fight with the intruder( British Company )..They were against Spanish ..How come Sabah own by Sultan of Sulu..Its the maharaja of Sabah Fought against The British..Which ensrine in Sabah Crest as Symbol of Winning The war ..
OMG
Look Malaysia
Now a days is the answer
God 🙏 will prevail the truth that's Sabah Philippines !!!
why now?
you know what there are just known rich of sabah gas oil and so on but nobody mentioned the sulu sultan exist only when sultan of brunei giving them for free land in history which is means brunei sultan today also can claim back sabah lor
Mabuhay ang Pilipinas!!!
sultan kiram III the great hero, we are proud of you!!!! and your supporters
allah ho akbar......
Loser..
Fake sultan don't even have power in his country lol hahaha
@@ThatOneMalaysianGuy hahaha, the 12.92 billion is waving to your country malaysiaa and more more of billions WHAHAHHAHAHAHAHa
Yet killed Muslim malaysia police.
sulu sultanate and their people may settle in indonesia in the east borneo and or also in gorontalo province.but they must become indonesians and speak indonesian too.especially in east borneo they can live and work for their activity's and to wait the process of their claiming for sabah.sabah should be given to sulu
this JOKER wants more money thats the reality but he doesnt know how to say PLEASE instead using his so call ROYAL SULU ARMY , with a strengh about 100 to stake a claim againts 28 milllion Malaysian people thats already living in harmony and properous for so many years.It is sad sad somebody has to die for this cause and not this guy and if you ask the people of Sabah, i strongly believe they dont want to be with this JOKER.My salute for the 2 policeman who died to defend this beloved country.