Btw if you can't differentiate between the barks, you can see the difference in trees by looking at the leaves. Oaks have the Gnarled Bark and give more heartwood. Sapwood is gained from Birch and other softer woods with smaller leaves.
its much easier to notice what kind of tree you need when they are larger , so you do lose time guessing. Also , there is no animation between stopping on chop and starting the next between the felling and the harvest. You can start chopping immediately on the break. The real key to all of this is to use the highest tool you can and the best stamina regen drink you can. There is some oaks that give 70 to 80 sapwood per harvest , with a steel axe , I can fell one in ten seconds and harvest it in another ten and I can run to the next one and do the same thing , and hardly ever stop. I rarely have to wait for stamina till after the 7th or 8th tree for only 5 seconds or so. My stamina regen is almost 3. Takes roughly about 20 minutes for me to fill my inventory with sapwood. I can do 3 runs completely in a hour.
I've noticed the smaller trees give a much better wood to chop count but even in a heavily wooded area you would have to walk around a lot and stay on the move. I prefer the large trees that give ~150 total wood count, giving me time to sip my favorite beverage or catch up on the baseball score on the TV behind me.
Thanks for your comment, I see your point. After doing more testing even things like miss swings ends up taking slot of time really as long as you simply avoid some of the really low yeild trees your golden.
There's another size between sapling and the small tree you showed that takes 2 hits with a steel axe (I think 3 with wrought iron) and yields 20-25 per tree. They're a bit less common but are definitely the best imo
@@rukenji7348 thanks it did find a couple of those but your right, they are less common so I didn't class it, just considered it a bonus sapling 🤣🤣 Thanks for your feedback I appreciate it.
So I just tested this , I have two steel axes in Inventory , 3 drinks for stam regen , keep in mind I'm not using my best drink , my stam regen was started when timer started , stam regen was only 1.5 , with my best drink I can regen 2.8. harvested on Inis Gallia , bottom left corner on old oaks area. I got 1100 sapwood and 650 Heartwood , in roughly 10 minutes. So thats 1.83 sapwood a second and 1.08 heartwood a second , for a combined total of 2.91 log per second. This leaves a ratio of almost 2 sapwood for every heartwood , which is a great ratio for filling up 11 kilns and 5 large kilns. See what you do over time and how fast you can do it on small trees. I would be interested. Time to harvest is important , not per chop. Time is the ultimate in figuring efficiency. Please test your theory on this. The trees I'm cutting yield roughly 100 sapwood and 50 heartwood. Sometimes I get the tree that's slightly smaller for 65 sapwood and 30 heartwood.
Hey mate thanks for watching, commenting and for your constructive feedback, I apprecciete it :) . I'm going to revisit this very soon after some of the feedback given here and reddit (thanks eveyone). Am certainly going to do some full run tests so time it takes to full bags instead of breaking it down per chop/tree etc. and see where that lands it. Some context I really should have included in the video in retrospect - I dont travel to harvest my wood, like I do steel or even iron. My clan (that are no longer playing and im left solo) selected a location that is plentyful in quality trees. Although im realising that I dont have alot of the LARGE trees that yeild 100/50. But my kilms storage and eveything I need is right next to our base. So to quickly go out fill up some regular charcoal kilms or the heartwood ones It seemingly was just as efficient to go and chop the small trees load them into the kilms so I could go off exploring and come back to some charcoal to load up for smelting. In refference to the halfway point, I'm sorry I was not particularly alluding to the fact the tree falls over and that takes time (although this is still a consideration as I'm again often doing the map toggle trick to let it go on auto chop while I'm watching the news or something and often aren't there ready and waiting to press the mouse again a split second after the tree cracks in half) what I was trying to bring attention to is the half way point is not an even split. As you see on the video it takes say a full 7 animations because the half way break point was actually at 6.2 chops, but even though the last swing only does a part chop you still have to wait for the full animation to finish. This will add 1 to 2 unnecessary animation swings if there was no halfway break point for tree chopping. I Generally farm the same path right outside my doorstep, follow it round end back at kilms to load what ever i have in my bags and set back out again on the same path, keep going to I load the kilms up and then go off exploring or farming. This means im often back and all the charcoal is done, and because im solo its just sitting there, so I started questioning was using Heartwood in my kilms worth it, if I can generate the same end result from normal kilms without loss considering sometimes there is hours where the charcoal is just sitting finished in a kilm with noi one there to laod it back up to maximise the Kilms efficiency. Because of this I was onyl focussing on my own effieicy to get this task complete so I could go off enjoying the game again. After more testing myself, i feel that a more hybrid approuch is probably the best. Thanks again and happy hunting, G
@@Farkinglegend Do your self a favor , get a razor naga mouse or a logitech g502 , install the software , make a macro to hold the left mouse button a certain period of time. This reduces finger fatigue. if you got a steel axe , and you can do those 100 sapwood 50 heartwood trees , I just go up , click whatever mouse button is a 16 second left mouse button hold , soon as the tree breaks the macro ends , then I click it again. Move on to the next tree when the harvest is done. All this is doing is keeping me from having to hold the button down which is nothing game breaking , just more relaxing and less wear and tear on my mouse. Can do this for any lengthy harvesting. Just time it all. Razor and Logitech are the only two companies that do a true hold mouse button feature.
Just use wrought iron axe and hit the saplings (2 hits for 3.5-4/swing) and small trees which for some reason you excluded from this (3 hits for 6-7.5/swing). Unless you aren't leveling any skills and are in a hurry steel axe isn't worth the cost. 5 ingot for 1 axe isn't worth IMO.
@@cn7520-r thanks for your comment. Small trees, thanks yeah another user mentioned those as well, I have found them quite rare but that could just be my region where I farm maybe 3 small trees compared to the 30+siblings and abundance of other sizes so considered them more bonus trees 😂. You make a great point however about using a wrought iron axe, it's questionable if it's worth it and very much dependent on the stage your at in game. And even then from a purely cost approach it's hard to make a argument for steel.
It takes me ~45 minutes to fill my 20 small kilns with sapwood to get two full inventories + hotbar (40 stacks each) of charcoal. Based on what you've tested is focusing on large heartwood trees and using large kilns quicker/more efficient than that?
Hi mate thanks for watching and taking the time to comment. Because you always yield 2/3 sapwood and 1/3 heartwood from the medium and larger heartwood trees. It's best to run a combination of large kilns and regular. I use 2 large heartwood kilns and 15 regular kilns. Which seems to be a good balance, load the large kilns with the heartwood and load the sapwood into the smaller kilns to get the most out of your stacks.
@@Farkinglegend I tested it and I get a little over 700 more charcoal just focusing on sapwood and small kilns than including large kilns and heartwood within the same amount of time. I even gave myself a few extra minutes doing heartwood and used the same foods for both. I'm able to fill the 20 small kilns but only got 3 large kilns and 9 small kilns with heartwood. So focusing sapwood with small kilns is definitely better for charcoal. (EDIT: bad math 1200 changed to 700)
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Btw if you can't differentiate between the barks, you can see the difference in trees by looking at the leaves. Oaks have the Gnarled Bark and give more heartwood. Sapwood is gained from Birch and other softer woods with smaller leaves.
Thank you for the information and taking the time to watch and comment
its much easier to notice what kind of tree you need when they are larger , so you do lose time guessing. Also , there is no animation between stopping on chop and starting the next between the felling and the harvest. You can start chopping immediately on the break. The real key to all of this is to use the highest tool you can and the best stamina regen drink you can. There is some oaks that give 70 to 80 sapwood per harvest , with a steel axe , I can fell one in ten seconds and harvest it in another ten and I can run to the next one and do the same thing , and hardly ever stop. I rarely have to wait for stamina till after the 7th or 8th tree for only 5 seconds or so. My stamina regen is almost 3. Takes roughly about 20 minutes for me to fill my inventory with sapwood. I can do 3 runs completely in a hour.
I've noticed the smaller trees give a much better wood to chop count but even in a heavily wooded area you would have to walk around a lot and stay on the move. I prefer the large trees that give ~150 total wood count, giving me time to sip my favorite beverage or catch up on the baseball score on the TV behind me.
Thanks for your comment, I see your point. After doing more testing even things like miss swings ends up taking slot of time really as long as you simply avoid some of the really low yeild trees your golden.
There's another size between sapling and the small tree you showed that takes 2 hits with a steel axe (I think 3 with wrought iron) and yields 20-25 per tree. They're a bit less common but are definitely the best imo
@@rukenji7348 thanks it did find a couple of those but your right, they are less common so I didn't class it, just considered it a bonus sapling 🤣🤣
Thanks for your feedback I appreciate it.
That was my gut feeling, but thanks for the science!
No worries!
great info thanks a bunch
@@walterocamb2803 thank you for watching!
So I just tested this , I have two steel axes in Inventory , 3 drinks for stam regen , keep in mind I'm not using my best drink , my stam regen was started when timer started , stam regen was only 1.5 , with my best drink I can regen 2.8. harvested on Inis Gallia , bottom left corner on old oaks area. I got 1100 sapwood and 650 Heartwood , in roughly 10 minutes. So thats 1.83 sapwood a second and 1.08 heartwood a second , for a combined total of 2.91 log per second. This leaves a ratio of almost 2 sapwood for every heartwood , which is a great ratio for filling up 11 kilns and 5 large kilns. See what you do over time and how fast you can do it on small trees. I would be interested. Time to harvest is important , not per chop. Time is the ultimate in figuring efficiency. Please test your theory on this. The trees I'm cutting yield roughly 100 sapwood and 50 heartwood. Sometimes I get the tree that's slightly smaller for 65 sapwood and 30 heartwood.
Hey mate thanks for watching, commenting and for your constructive feedback, I apprecciete it :) .
I'm going to revisit this very soon after some of the feedback given here and reddit (thanks eveyone). Am certainly going to do some full run tests so time it takes to full bags instead of breaking it down per chop/tree etc. and see where that lands it.
Some context I really should have included in the video in retrospect - I dont travel to harvest my wood, like I do steel or even iron.
My clan (that are no longer playing and im left solo) selected a location that is plentyful in quality trees. Although im realising that I dont have alot of the LARGE trees that yeild 100/50. But my kilms storage and eveything I need is right next to our base. So to quickly go out fill up some regular charcoal kilms or the heartwood ones It seemingly was just as efficient to go and chop the small trees load them into the kilms so I could go off exploring and come back to some charcoal to load up for smelting.
In refference to the halfway point, I'm sorry I was not particularly alluding to the fact the tree falls over and that takes time (although this is still a consideration as I'm again often doing the map toggle trick to let it go on auto chop while I'm watching the news or something and often aren't there ready and waiting to press the mouse again a split second after the tree cracks in half) what I was trying to bring attention to is the half way point is not an even split. As you see on the video it takes say a full 7 animations because the half way break point was actually at 6.2 chops, but even though the last swing only does a part chop you still have to wait for the full animation to finish. This will add 1 to 2 unnecessary animation swings if there was no halfway break point for tree chopping.
I Generally farm the same path right outside my doorstep, follow it round end back at kilms to load what ever i have in my bags and set back out again on the same path, keep going to I load the kilms up and then go off exploring or farming.
This means im often back and all the charcoal is done, and because im solo its just sitting there, so I started questioning was using Heartwood in my kilms worth it, if I can generate the same end result from normal kilms without loss considering sometimes there is hours where the charcoal is just sitting finished in a kilm with noi one there to laod it back up to maximise the Kilms efficiency. Because of this I was onyl focussing on my own effieicy to get this task complete so I could go off enjoying the game again.
After more testing myself, i feel that a more hybrid approuch is probably the best.
Thanks again and happy hunting, G
@@Farkinglegend Do your self a favor , get a razor naga mouse or a logitech g502 , install the software , make a macro to hold the left mouse button a certain period of time. This reduces finger fatigue. if you got a steel axe , and you can do those 100 sapwood 50 heartwood trees , I just go up , click whatever mouse button is a 16 second left mouse button hold , soon as the tree breaks the macro ends , then I click it again. Move on to the next tree when the harvest is done. All this is doing is keeping me from having to hold the button down which is nothing game breaking , just more relaxing and less wear and tear on my mouse. Can do this for any lengthy harvesting. Just time it all. Razor and Logitech are the only two companies that do a true hold mouse button feature.
Just use wrought iron axe and hit the saplings (2 hits for 3.5-4/swing) and small trees which for some reason you excluded from this (3 hits for 6-7.5/swing). Unless you aren't leveling any skills and are in a hurry steel axe isn't worth the cost. 5 ingot for 1 axe isn't worth IMO.
@@cn7520-r thanks for your comment. Small trees, thanks yeah another user mentioned those as well, I have found them quite rare but that could just be my region where I farm maybe 3 small trees compared to the 30+siblings and abundance of other sizes so considered them more bonus trees 😂. You make a great point however about using a wrought iron axe, it's questionable if it's worth it and very much dependent on the stage your at in game. And even then from a purely cost approach it's hard to make a argument for steel.
It takes me ~45 minutes to fill my 20 small kilns with sapwood to get two full inventories + hotbar (40 stacks each) of charcoal. Based on what you've tested is focusing on large heartwood trees and using large kilns quicker/more efficient than that?
Hi mate thanks for watching and taking the time to comment. Because you always yield 2/3 sapwood and 1/3 heartwood from the medium and larger heartwood trees. It's best to run a combination of large kilns and regular. I use 2 large heartwood kilns and 15 regular kilns. Which seems to be a good balance, load the large kilns with the heartwood and load the sapwood into the smaller kilns to get the most out of your stacks.
@@Farkinglegend I tested it and I get a little over 700 more charcoal just focusing on sapwood and small kilns than including large kilns and heartwood within the same amount of time. I even gave myself a few extra minutes doing heartwood and used the same foods for both. I'm able to fill the 20 small kilns but only got 3 large kilns and 9 small kilns with heartwood. So focusing sapwood with small kilns is definitely better for charcoal. (EDIT: bad math 1200 changed to 700)
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F8'd this in alpha 2 and in EA...it's silly
Crazy stupid... But it's only one of many crazy stupid things currently in Pax Dei 😎