Once you've got the doors insulated you might find it's cheaper to just keep the shop cool than running them on turbo early in the morning. Especially once you have 10 tons of metal in the shop.
I agree the whole point of ductless splits with DC inverters is to set and forget them. once they reach temperature they can cycle down to 10% capacity and will ramp up as the cooling load increases. They should just “purr along” sipping electric at night or low load days.
For sure I have 2 friends with mini splits. Once you get to desired temp, just let it go. They never adjust them. While they not in Florida, they don't run as much as you might think once everything is at the set temperature.
Just like it requires more power to get a car rolling than it does to keep it rolling . And letting your building warm up and then trying to cool it down is the same thing . It was definitely a good idea to go with two units though . Because with two units they have a much better chance of operating efficiently and not having to work overtime .
They should always be on but there is no reason to hold it in the 70s when not in there. I usually stay around 82 on my house unit overnight or when away on vacation. I recomend the chocolate bar test to set the high point of an AC. Basically you put a Hersheys Bar out and open and test if it sticks to your finger. Start cool and work up in 2 degree increments over a handful of days until it is soft and sticks. Back it down 2-4 degrees and it will be good to go. The number is usually around 80 with better systems being able to hold higher number temps due to less variation between cycles. With older systems you could easily see a 6 degree swing between cycles, but with the new stuff a degree or two is easily achievable.
Couple things from an HVAC contractor. 1-I would order a couple more sticks of lineset cover and run it the rest of your linset length, and what you can’t put in cover wrap in UV tape. The insulation will be gone by next year. 2-I tell everyone to let it run overnight, they will run periodically on 2ish amps on low, just maintaining the space with a low heat load. Then won’t run on high with a huge load. The energy usage will be a wash and you won’t have to wait for the shop to cool. Plus Florida things and humidity. 3- Keep those filters clean, mini splits will last/work much longer the more anal you are keeping them clean. Enjoy 😉
One more set would be enough to cover both sides, so would be wort it... also it would look a lot cleaner on the side towards the house. I would go crazy looking at the half covered lines :D
thats why i never understood the whole turn your ac up at night even though its not running near as much as it is in the day. i get to wake up hot, and turn it back down to use the same if not more power to cool it off once the sun is heating everything up never made sense to me
You're better off from an efficiency perspective leaving them on at night to maintain lower humidity. Obviously, even if you turn the temp up for night time, humidity can still be controlled. HVAC 101.
I am in Myrtle Beach South Carolina and that’s exactly what I do also my shop is a little bit smaller I think 45 x 55 and only 10 foot walls and wood frame construction I spend about 190 a month on electric
Make sure you have a surge protector in that 100 amp panel. Those mini splits have VFDs that will fry at the smallest surge. They are pretty low cost and easy to install.
When you put the loft in, it will cause "air foils". Due to flow encountering walls, But only slightly . To combat that in the upper of the loft, get a decent ceiling fan 👌🏼
@@skilled1140 no the hell they don’t. They sell a gimmick. You get more control with multiple smaller fans. That brand also charges a shit ton for a simple concept
@@LouSassles never had a problem with them but I'm always open to hearing about others experience - more so if they know more than me. Thanks for letting me know. Anyone / brand you'd recommend as a replacement?
That would have the opposite effect. Cold air is denser than hot air. The hot air will naturally accumulate up high and the cold air down low. Putting in fans will mix the hot air and cold air leveling out the temp and artificially increase the amount of cooling required for the space.
Glad you put some conduit over the hoses to protected them from UV which soon degrades the insulation… plus rats and crows etc love to eat the insulation. Get some more conduit to full protect the lines. also build a small porch roof or louvered ‘shed’ over the outdoor units, keeps the rain and sun off which greatly extends their life.
Being in the HVAC business all my life. Being old school and use to forced air systems, I’m always surprised how well ductless splits work. As for the install, you made it look easy, better than some of the guys that worked for me. Keep the filters clean, and watch the the evaporators don’t get moldy, they tent to grow a little. But overall, Well Done!
@@Matty.Hill_87 I have actually found them to bring more work. People wanna buy and diy them, then open everything get overwhelmed and call me. Or, they screw shit up and then call me...
@@THESNAKE8 My understanding is that many shops refuse to work on them so all of the advice about nitrogen testing and drawing a vac is a joke if no one will help. Glad to hear you guys are willing!
Great job! I do air conditioning for a living and really impressed with how easy that’s been for a DIY guy. Definitely make sure you give the inside and outside coil a clean with some water to keep them running at their best and clean the indoor filters every 6 months
“Air conditioning” dehumidification, you finally mentioned it. Over kill is not the answer in HVAC. In cooling you want it to run longer to get that humidity down before it meets the set temp and shut off. If so run one unit and see what it will do to dehumidify the shop. Of course as soon as you open a garage door you are almost at square one. (Haven’t watched your other vid) did you apply fire proofing to the spray foam? The line hide is their to protect the line set’s insulation from UV degradation. Air sealing is key and I herd you are working on it👍. ✌️
Running the fans on low might compensate for it a little bit, but you are correct. Run time = dehumidification. Florida is an especially humid state. A dehumidifier along with a properly sized and set up a/c will yield the best results
I was looking for the same comment, when he said he got two 3 ton units I was amazed. Definitely didn't need two condensers, he would have been fine with two heads.
@Taylor, you actually shouldn't need both remotes for the AC units if they are the same model. You should be able to use the same remote for both units. Keep one as a backup ;)
taylor put a fan in one of the back corner of the workshop half way up the wall and aim it on 45 degree across the workshop it will circulate the cold air from the split systems thats how we have it in our panel shop and it works a treat cheers from down under
Awesome! I want to put a mini split in my 3 stall garage! My neighbor has one and loves it! Make sure to tint those windows with some really good UV Blocking film and it will cut down the heat level even more!
FAB TABLE…I love seeing you choose quality over quick or simple. You should seriously look at getting a Fireball Tool fab/weld table. I would love to see you take your fabrication to the next level. Big fan, keep it up 👍🏻
It is extremely satisfying to see what would be a super hot metal garage properly insulated with fresh AC getting cooled down to 70 degrees on a hot summer day. Should be a perfect work environment. They look pretty efficient judging by the amps being drawn.
Humidity makes such a huge, huge comfort difference. I'm perfectly comfortable with the AC set several degrees warmer once I started running a dedicated dehumidifier. Sitting at the computer at 78-80 in the room with the dehumidifier is perfectly comfortable.
I've air-conditioned many shops. I just got done air conditioning the boostedboiz shop for Kyle and Wyatt. You've done a great job the only problems going to be weekly you need to clean the filters on the top of those head units. So just make sure you have an opening in front of them's where you can just throw up a fold-out ladder and scoot up there . It is very important to clean those filters regularly
All you need to do is get 3 or 4 good ceiling fans or one of those HUGE turbo ceiling fans and have that thing circulating the air throughout the entire shop and both of those units will definitely be more than enough for the shop plus the fans moving the air around for the loft as well.
Only a minute in and it's definitely every car guys dream to have a shop with AC. Well at least the ones who grew up working on stuff outside or in old wood garages that barley had/have power. When I worked at a local repair facility we talked about doing it but never did, dont think the owner has pulled the trigger yet either and I left there 2 years ago. There's still only one shop in my town that has AC (an actual automotive repair facility not a personal shop). When me and my business partner get our new building built it's definitely getting heat and ac (it gets cold here in the winter so heat is just as much of a need as ac lol). Loving the progress man, its giving me motivation to get mine done.
Love the way even with something like AC you spend the time to compare the noise and temps rather than just putting it in and saying that’s better and moving on. Great install, simple, neat and tidy. 👍🏽😎
Love the updates, I’m on a similar journey with my shop, I didn’t have to tear it down though. Bought a house last year with a shop, previous owner was a welder, so the shop has its own meter, but pretty bare bones, now I’m tuning it into a fully furnished insulated race shop.
Great job! The only thing I will recommend you to do took me 3 years to do but has been great since. Overhead fans, and make sure you can reverse them from the ground. Here in Ohio reversing for winter makes the difference in when I turn the heat on. But having them run at a consistent but low speed all the time helps make everything more consistent. You might want one over the loft, and the other two over the floor space. Also, think about how high your trucks go up at the tallest spot on the lifts. Save yourself having to relocate a fan and fix a vehicle.
Make sure you double and triple check that the fittings don't leak check it once it has run for a little while, I installed one of these and have had issues with it leaking at the fittings
your genuine excitement the first time you said "this is the dream" got me. man so stoked. as a texas wrencher this hits home. the difference in a cooled 83* garage vs a 93-100* garage is massive.
Dream shop, we have 2 smaller units and use 1 remote for both, we just point it to the unit that we want to change the temperature at and no more having 2 remotes around the shop, they are like 10mm sockets, they walk away LOL! Enjoyed the video!
Ohh I remember that South Florida heat and humidity, takes your breath away going outside 🥵 now I'm back in the northeast and only have that in the summertime 😎 stoked you're getting the shop up and running!
Had an uncle that worked on his Harley in the living room. Window unit, 3.5 tv channels, ashtray, fridge closeby. Little did I know he was ahead of the game
Love doing things myself. I just found a Mr Cool system to replace my heat pump that went out. Thanks to you Taylor I have a more affordable solution to my problem and I don't have to pay someone an outrageous amount to have it done. Enjoy your a/c, I have enjoyed watching your content over the years and have learned a lot. Keep it up.
6 tons of cooling power is going to be bonkers and keep up with even the hottest florida days easily. I would just let it run in auto mode all the way and control the fan speed all by itself.
I have the same unit in my shop fully insulated 28x40 12.5'. I only use the dehumidifier and not the AC on the unit. You will be amazed at how well they work.
Once the loft is in place you could always install an industrial ceiling fan to help circulate the air and keep it from being hotter when in an elevated space
Yes, I was cringing when I saw him spray painting bare plywood, it wasn't going to look good. A coat of a primer/sealer designed for wood would have given better coverage, and a topcoat on top of that and it would have looked good.
@@flyingwolffilms they look like absolute shit!! Should've gone to the effort of throwing ply or plaster wall up, could've painted it and made it overall look 10x better.
As a fellow Florida man.. I am so jealous. I had a really bad dizzy spell on Tuesday after a beach day with my daughter and being dehydrated. Man it’s hot out
I put a 220v 24,000BTU Mini split System in my garage here not far from you in New Port Richey, it made my electric bill at the house go up about $15-$20 a month running the garage mini-split at 74 degrees 24/7 - it wasnt even as much as an increase as when we added a second fridge to the laundry room, to be able to work in my now ice-cold, air conditioned 3-car garage (660 sq ft)
I have the same mini split in my shop near your size. I leave it on set at 72. For the last month here in Illinois it has been 90-100 with humidity in the 90’s. Shop has felt great and my bill for last month was $29.87. That’s running the mini split, a boat load of led lights, stereo, welder, charging tools you name it. Cannot beat the efficiency of these units!
As someone who installs mini split systems at residential houses. We would use one of those for a house maybe two if it was big or they needed more then 4 heads. Crazy to have it that oversized🤷🏼♂️ regular mini split systems can by diy aswell. Super simple systems to install
Try Boeshield T-9 oil on the tools you don't use often. I spray it on every new tool I buy. It leaves a waxy coating on as it evaporates. Boeing invented it to protect aerospace inventory. I'm in Florida too and I use it on my lathes and hand tools to prevent rust. Worth every penny. CRC also makes a similar product.
I did a multizone in my house when my 20 year old heat pump died a year ago and they are doing great for heat and AC. They do tend to do better if you let them run all the time though just adjust the temperature up and down as needed.
I would of recommended to you putting both units on the back wall of the shop and just instill some fans from keeping both units in the same spot to save space outside and the direct air flow from the unit would cool the shop and the fans would keep the cool air moving around... but how you did it will still 100% work and like I said in your other video when you said you got the units, 1 million percent worth getting those mini splits
I had a combo mini-split added to my garage 2 years ago. Agree - my productivity went up a lot having the environment a more stable temperature year round. without a loud noise source. warms it up to about 50 on the really cold days and the a/c is wonderful in the summer.
I would mount one in line near the lifts...and one near the back side.....also if you build that hangout loft... Since heat rises the loft would be naturally hotter than below(since this is the 2 main areas you will be working)....all on the same side wall(otherwise each unit will be pushing across from each other and showing the room to be colder and it will cut the the thermostat sooner)
Program your temps higher at night but let the units run to maintain humidity levels. Insulate your doors and keep your filters clean and you’ll really like the difference it makes in your shop and very cost effective … when I install the condensers I build a platform under them to elevate away from mowers and pets and non pets mice and snakes seem to like them for homes . Nice setup enjoy .. My customers really like them
i have A/C in my garage and it doesn't really make it all that much cooler but like your saying, it pulls a lot of the humidity out and makes a HUGE difference. ill never go without it now. stoked to see you build out the shop and what you do with all the space.
I'd set them both on a schedule. Something like 75 during the day and you could even bump it up to 80 at night. You said it yourself, humidity is your enemy and all those tools are, literally, your family's heirloom fortune. It's stuff that lasts lifetimes so spend the few extra bucks to protect it 👌
Just to share an idea… I put a 120VAC mini split unit in my 24’ enclosed trailer. I put the outdoor unit inside in the v nose. I used foam board to duct the exhaust out two vents I cut in the front of the trailer. I cut out the floor under the unit for the intake, then built a foam board doghouse around the whole thing for the intake duct. I put my toolbox in front of it and built a workbench over the whole thing. The inside unit I installed over the man door. A 3000 watt inverter ran it fine. In anything other than direct sunlight it did great though I’m sure insulation would fix even that. Never had an issue for several years until the trailer was stolen.
Set them at a comfortable temp and leave them alone. I have 40x50 shop - during warm months I set at 72, and in winter I do 60 degrees on all the time. I have 17 ft ceiling and 2 fans and only one 36K unit. I don't have the humidity you do, but the dehumidifier in that MR cool still pulls a ton out of the air. You should be able to be working in a hoody inside that giant yeti cooler you built!
Get a couple 3 blade metal ceiling fans. You'll be amazed at how much air they move, I just leave them on med, almost silent. And keep the air circulating...
I've said it before and will say it again white pegboard on the lower parts of the walls hang tools bolt bins etc. Also build a small insulated room on the side of the building for your compressor it is a game changer
G'day, Awesome job man. One thing you should do is continue the outside cable in the covering right up to the compressor to make it all uniform and perfect for us OCD'ers. So thanks for sharing man ✌️Peace from Melbourne Australia.
I wouldn't worry too much about them being perfectly super duper level. I've had a 20k btu unit installed in my bus/rv for the last couple years, and it is still alive and kicking.
You are going to be surprised at how well they keep the shop cool with that closed cell insulation. Get some ceiling fans for the winter to keep the hot air off the ceiling. Don't run the ceiling fans in the summer with the AC on. You placed these exactly as I would have. You were more excited about your heat-pump than I was about mine, and I was really excited!
Friendly reminder that you run the fans in opposite directions summer and winter. In the summer you run them anti-clockwise to create a cooling downward breeze. In the winter you run them clockwise to circulate the air and level out the temps. In winter mode a fan will suck up cool air and push warm air down the walls.
@@DonOblivious in a tall space a heat zone is usually allowed to form up high (above the outputs). You don't want to blow air from the upper warm zone down into the occupied cool zone in the summer in these scenarios. Best case if you want airflow is to have flor fans to move the cool zone air around.
Awesome man, I'm happy for you, well deserved nice shop. Love seeing people get what they want and love seeing your journey, can't wait to see the Vette dominate round 3 Klutch Kickers. Congrats
I'm so glad you went with mini splits. I'm a refrigeration tech and I love mini splits. I have one in a camp that's ran off a 5k generator. You'll probably want to have a couple fans to help move the air around. Great work man
It’s awesome that it was so simple to make your building have a/c! A small suggestion that works great in my shops would be to put large ceiling fans with a lot of blades so you can run them on a low speed and circulate the warm air up top and mix it with the cooled air below.
an energy recovery ventilator (erv) should really be on your list… it brings fresh air in, passing it across the cooler inside air in a heat exchanger without mixing them. something to consider since you’ll be in an enclosed space with lots of solvents around.
I seriously can't get enough of your videos Taylor, my niche is car builds.. I love my drifting n all that but watching something come together is what I live for, Thankyou for all that you do and I can't wait for the vette to be finished. 👌 ❤
Just like people have been saying humidity is the biggest thing to keep under control. I don't have experience with those units but I'm sure they have a humidity control mode. For overnight I'd say just set them to keep the humidity under about 65%. They will run the indoor fan real slow and really ring that air out while sipping electricity. Then if you want it cooler when you get in there it should happen pretty quick with a lot of the latent load already taken care of.
Have you looked into gutters at all? Was just thinking about how much it rains down there and you're going to have a perimeter of water damage around the shop and possibly onto the new AC units? Shop is looking sick! Really enjoying watching the progress of the build
Be good to have a rain water tank to use on gardens. Most new houses in Western Australia have to have a rain water tank of some description and solar power panels on the roof of the house and workshop.
Judging by the comments, nope. He really needs some sort of temporary "spray booth." Even if it's just some plastic drop cloth sheets he hangs for spray projects. Taylor is really, really bad about shit like this because he absolutely refuses to google stuff and do what a tutorial says. He's proudly a bonehead that will blunder his way through projects rather than taking a single bit of advice. Like he's PROUD that he ruins paint jobs because he doesn't listen to advice, and he's so proud about it he literally states in videos that he's proud about not taking advice. My only complaint about the channel is that he's so, very, anti-education. I've literally never painted a car and I'm more educated on the subject that he is. Example: DIY Car Painting 101: your floor should be wet. Hose it down before painting. That's like, literally, the most basic thing you should know if you're spraying a car. The floor is where most of the dust is, dust makes paintjobs look like shit, and hosing it down with water cuts down on how much dust ends up on your paint job. If he wasn't such a fucking bonehead, he would know that. But he doesn't, because he's proudly anti-educational. It's a zero dollar technique to make the paintjob look better. Fuck the Florida education system that turns out people with such idiotic stances like this.
Keep them on it usually takes more energy to cool everything off than to maintain a constant temp. Worst case have the thermostats go up a few degrees when you’re not in there.
Get a few commercial ceiling fans to help distribute your conditioned air. You'll notice a huge difference. They will reduce cold and hot spots. Mount them two or three feet below the roof. As long as they don't interfere with your lifts in and possible mezzanines I wish to install in the future. You've got a nice shop! ~Stay healthy, happy, and safe. ~
You can keep the units running 24/7 will draw less current when you set them on auto raise the temp when you leave to like 76 and when you come back lower it and it will not have to go thru the big draw in amps when it’s hot inside. When they are on all the time and in auto they lower the speed of the inside and outside unit and speed up when they have to and make sure you clean them filters once a month if you don’t want the unit to struggle or leak water.
Once you've got the doors insulated you might find it's cheaper to just keep the shop cool than running them on turbo early in the morning. Especially once you have 10 tons of metal in the shop.
I agree the whole point of ductless splits with DC inverters is to set and forget them. once they reach temperature they can cycle down to 10% capacity and will ramp up as the cooling load increases. They should just “purr along” sipping electric at night or low load days.
For sure I have 2 friends with mini splits. Once you get to desired temp, just let it go. They never adjust them. While they not in Florida, they don't run as much as you might think once everything is at the set temperature.
There a s**t ton of insulation already as long as the filters and maintenance are kept on top of, this should be more than enough
Just like it requires more power to get a car rolling than it does to keep it rolling . And letting your building warm up and then trying to cool it down is the same thing . It was definitely a good idea to go with two units though . Because with two units they have a much better chance of operating efficiently and not having to work overtime .
They should always be on but there is no reason to hold it in the 70s when not in there. I usually stay around 82 on my house unit overnight or when away on vacation.
I recomend the chocolate bar test to set the high point of an AC. Basically you put a Hersheys Bar out and open and test if it sticks to your finger. Start cool and work up in 2 degree increments over a handful of days until it is soft and sticks. Back it down 2-4 degrees and it will be good to go.
The number is usually around 80 with better systems being able to hold higher number temps due to less variation between cycles. With older systems you could easily see a 6 degree swing between cycles, but with the new stuff a degree or two is easily achievable.
Couple things from an HVAC contractor. 1-I would order a couple more sticks of lineset cover and run it the rest of your linset length, and what you can’t put in cover wrap in UV tape. The insulation will be gone by next year. 2-I tell everyone to let it run overnight, they will run periodically on 2ish amps on low, just maintaining the space with a low heat load. Then won’t run on high with a huge load. The energy usage will be a wash and you won’t have to wait for the shop to cool. Plus Florida things and humidity. 3- Keep those filters clean, mini splits will last/work much longer the more anal you are keeping them clean. Enjoy 😉
One more set would be enough to cover both sides, so would be wort it... also it would look a lot cleaner on the side towards the house. I would go crazy looking at the half covered lines :D
Can’t forget about surge protection since they are so sensitive to voltage discrepancies
I 2nd this…great advice sir
thats why i never understood the whole turn your ac up at night even though its not running near as much as it is in the day. i get to wake up hot, and turn it back down to use the same if not more power to cool it off once the sun is heating everything up never made sense to me
There’s no logic adding linset length just shorten tubes
You're better off from an efficiency perspective leaving them on at night to maintain lower humidity. Obviously, even if you turn the temp up for night time, humidity can still be controlled.
HVAC 101.
I am in Myrtle Beach South Carolina and that’s exactly what I do also my shop is a little bit smaller I think 45 x 55 and only 10 foot walls and wood frame construction I spend about 190 a month on electric
set then to like 80 at night. so they stay on
happy mini split day, i am also totally blown away how quiet they are indoor and out, i would have never guessed they are even working
Did I miss the bit where you vac the system out and also try your hardest to keep them upright at all times
Make sure you have a surge protector in that 100 amp panel. Those mini splits have VFDs that will fry at the smallest surge. They are pretty low cost and easy to install.
Absolutely! Cheap insurance. Get one with brown out protection.
have to agree. get a surge arrestor for the panel.
Any suggestions on something decent? I am actually at this same point in my shop build and just got my minisplit installed
@@tumblingtwerp9 the solution will change depending on the brand of your panel.
@@tumblingtwerp9 Eaton for sure.
Off and on can lead to condensation on things that are cool. Leave them on, maybe at a bit higher temp when your not in there.
Same with leaving them on if they are oversize.
When you put the loft in, it will cause "air foils". Due to flow encountering walls, But only slightly . To combat that in the upper of the loft, get a decent ceiling fan 👌🏼
bigassfans make a great product
@@skilled1140 bad after service. 'No we won't sell you this couple of dollar part.. but you can buy this replace fan at $xxxxx'
@@skilled1140 no the hell they don’t. They sell a gimmick. You get more control with multiple smaller fans. That brand also charges a shit ton for a simple concept
@@LouSassles never had a problem with them but I'm always open to hearing about others experience - more so if they know more than me. Thanks for letting me know. Anyone / brand you'd recommend as a replacement?
U might need to add gravel around the outside units pads to prevent the rain washing the dirt out from out nd under it
I would definitely install like 4 ceiling fans spaced out to help with it running so much and help the cool air get circulated better
That would have the opposite effect. Cold air is denser than hot air. The hot air will naturally accumulate up high and the cold air down low. Putting in fans will mix the hot air and cold air leveling out the temp and artificially increase the amount of cooling required for the space.
@@zillbot it would help apply more load to keep the run time long enough to dehumidify well. Oversized a/c’s are just as bad as undersized
Let it stratify, cool down s we here you work
You dont really need to so that with the mini split since it pulls in the air on the top of the unit, then fans it up and down the whole time.
@@Jordan-ip5fx In a shop like this, in FL heat there is almost no such thing as undersized.
Just a heads up that I think the instructions say to coil up the unused line set horizontally to reduce pooling of the refrigerant oil.
Glad you put some conduit over the hoses to protected them from UV which soon degrades the insulation… plus rats and crows etc love to eat the insulation.
Get some more conduit to full protect the lines.
also build a small porch roof or louvered ‘shed’ over the outdoor units, keeps the rain and sun off which greatly extends their life.
Being in the HVAC business all my life. Being old school and use to forced air systems, I’m always surprised how well ductless splits work. As for the install, you made it look easy, better than some of the guys that worked for me. Keep the filters clean, and watch the the evaporators don’t get moldy, they tent to grow a little. But overall, Well Done!
Do these DIY systems effect business much or do you still find people hire you to fit them?
@@Matty.Hill_87 I have actually found them to bring more work. People wanna buy and diy them, then open everything get overwhelmed and call me. Or, they screw shit up and then call me...
@@THESNAKE8 My understanding is that many shops refuse to work on them so all of the advice about nitrogen testing and drawing a vac is a joke if no one will help. Glad to hear you guys are willing!
Get this man to 1MIL! He deserves it!
Great job! I do air conditioning for a living and really impressed with how easy that’s been for a DIY guy. Definitely make sure you give the inside and outside coil a clean with some water to keep them running at their best and clean the indoor filters every 6 months
Being a floridian I feel this in my soul lol
“Air conditioning” dehumidification, you finally mentioned it. Over kill is not the answer in HVAC. In cooling you want it to run longer to get that humidity down before it meets the set temp and shut off. If so run one unit and see what it will do to dehumidify the shop. Of course as soon as you open a garage door you are almost at square one. (Haven’t watched your other vid) did you apply fire proofing to the spray foam? The line hide is their to protect the line set’s insulation from UV degradation. Air sealing is key and I herd you are working on it👍. ✌️
Running the fans on low might compensate for it a little bit, but you are correct. Run time = dehumidification. Florida is an especially humid state. A dehumidifier along with a properly sized and set up a/c will yield the best results
I was looking for the same comment, when he said he got two 3 ton units I was amazed. Definitely didn't need two condensers, he would have been fine with two heads.
@Taylor, you actually shouldn't need both remotes for the AC units if they are the same model. You should be able to use the same remote for both units. Keep one as a backup ;)
I'm hyped for the new shop saga to begin finally! been here since the smaller two car garage days with fed
taylor put a fan in one of the back corner of the workshop half way up the wall and aim it on 45 degree across the workshop it will circulate the cold air from the split systems thats how we have it in our panel shop and it works a treat cheers from down under
Awesome! I want to put a mini split in my 3 stall garage! My neighbor has one and loves it! Make sure to tint those windows with some really good UV Blocking film and it will cut down the heat level even more!
FAB TABLE…I love seeing you choose quality over quick or simple. You should seriously look at getting a Fireball Tool fab/weld table. I would love to see you take your fabrication to the next level. Big fan, keep it up 👍🏻
It is extremely satisfying to see what would be a super hot metal garage properly insulated with fresh AC getting cooled down to 70 degrees on a hot summer day. Should be a perfect work environment. They look pretty efficient judging by the amps being drawn.
Im so happy for you t ray you have my dream shop!!! Glad to see people work so hard and reap the benefits of their hard work and dedication!!!
Humidity makes such a huge, huge comfort difference. I'm perfectly comfortable with the AC set several degrees warmer once I started running a dedicated dehumidifier. Sitting at the computer at 78-80 in the room with the dehumidifier is perfectly comfortable.
You're going to form a thunderstorm when opening those doors now! Stoked to see all the progress on the new shop! So much room for activities!
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I've air-conditioned many shops. I just got done air conditioning the boostedboiz shop for Kyle and Wyatt. You've done a great job the only problems going to be weekly you need to clean the filters on the top of those head units. So just make sure you have an opening in front of them's where you can just throw up a fold-out ladder and scoot up there . It is very important to clean those filters regularly
You should put solar panels on the shop roof. Especially in the hot Florida sun you'd basically get the AC power for free.
For real! Not sure why this is not an option for more people!
AND it will shade the roof
Yeah he should lol I'm in Florida too
All you need to do is get 3 or 4 good ceiling fans or one of those HUGE turbo ceiling fans and have that thing circulating the air throughout the entire shop and both of those units will definitely be more than enough for the shop plus the fans moving the air around for the loft as well.
Only a minute in and it's definitely every car guys dream to have a shop with AC. Well at least the ones who grew up working on stuff outside or in old wood garages that barley had/have power. When I worked at a local repair facility we talked about doing it but never did, dont think the owner has pulled the trigger yet either and I left there 2 years ago. There's still only one shop in my town that has AC (an actual automotive repair facility not a personal shop). When me and my business partner get our new building built it's definitely getting heat and ac (it gets cold here in the winter so heat is just as much of a need as ac lol). Loving the progress man, its giving me motivation to get mine done.
Love the way even with something like AC you spend the time to compare the noise and temps rather than just putting it in and saying that’s better and moving on. Great install, simple, neat and tidy. 👍🏽😎
Love the video. One thing I would consider is adding hurricane ground anchors to concrete pads. So wind or ground erosion won’t change it.
Love the updates, I’m on a similar journey with my shop, I didn’t have to tear it down though. Bought a house last year with a shop, previous owner was a welder, so the shop has its own meter, but pretty bare bones, now I’m tuning it into a fully furnished insulated race shop.
Great job! The only thing I will recommend you to do took me 3 years to do but has been great since. Overhead fans, and make sure you can reverse them from the ground. Here in Ohio reversing for winter makes the difference in when I turn the heat on. But having them run at a consistent but low speed all the time helps make everything more consistent. You might want one over the loft, and the other two over the floor space. Also, think about how high your trucks go up at the tallest spot on the lifts. Save yourself having to relocate a fan and fix a vehicle.
can't wait for the shop upgrade projects
Make sure you double and triple check that the fittings don't leak check it once it has run for a little while, I installed one of these and have had issues with it leaking at the fittings
your genuine excitement the first time you said "this is the dream" got me. man so stoked. as a texas wrencher this hits home. the difference in a cooled 83* garage vs a 93-100* garage is massive.
Dream shop, we have 2 smaller units and use 1 remote for both, we just point it to the unit that we want to change the temperature at and no more having 2 remotes around the shop, they are like 10mm sockets, they walk away LOL! Enjoyed the video!
Ohh I remember that South Florida heat and humidity, takes your breath away going outside 🥵 now I'm back in the northeast and only have that in the summertime 😎 stoked you're getting the shop up and running!
Had an uncle that worked on his Harley in the living room. Window unit, 3.5 tv channels, ashtray, fridge closeby. Little did I know he was ahead of the game
Love doing things myself. I just found a Mr Cool system to replace my heat pump that went out. Thanks to you Taylor I have a more affordable solution to my problem and I don't have to pay someone an outrageous amount to have it done. Enjoy your a/c, I have enjoyed watching your content over the years and have learned a lot. Keep it up.
6 tons of cooling power is going to be bonkers and keep up with even the hottest florida days easily. I would just let it run in auto mode all the way and control the fan speed all by itself.
I have the same unit in my shop fully insulated 28x40 12.5'. I only use the dehumidifier and not the AC on the unit. You will be amazed at how well they work.
Once the loft is in place you could always install an industrial ceiling fan to help circulate the air and keep it from being hotter when in an elevated space
Am I the only one who’s super happy he painted the wood white? 😂
Yes, I was cringing when I saw him spray painting bare plywood, it wasn't going to look good. A coat of a primer/sealer designed for wood would have given better coverage, and a topcoat on top of that and it would have looked good.
@@TheRakerr yea your definitely right but look at the foam walls they look far worse
@@flyingwolffilms they look like absolute shit!! Should've gone to the effort of throwing ply or plaster wall up, could've painted it and made it overall look 10x better.
The potential overspray on cars stresses me out 😭
@@flyingwolffilms me to, if you're going to do it might as well do it properly
As a fellow Florida man.. I am so jealous. I had a really bad dizzy spell on Tuesday after a beach day with my daughter and being dehydrated. Man it’s hot out
I put a 220v 24,000BTU Mini split System in my garage here not far from you in New Port Richey, it made my electric bill at the house go up about $15-$20 a month running the garage mini-split at 74 degrees 24/7 - it wasnt even as much as an increase as when we added a second fridge to the laundry room, to be able to work in my now ice-cold, air conditioned 3-car garage (660 sq ft)
I have the same mini split in my shop near your size. I leave it on set at 72. For the last month here in Illinois it has been 90-100 with humidity in the 90’s. Shop has felt great and my bill for last month was $29.87. That’s running the mini split, a boat load of led lights, stereo, welder, charging tools you name it. Cannot beat the efficiency of these units!
As someone who installs mini split systems at residential houses. We would use one of those for a house maybe two if it was big or they needed more then 4 heads. Crazy to have it that oversized🤷🏼♂️ regular mini split systems can by diy aswell. Super simple systems to install
So happy for u. Such a awesome shop and ac hell yes!!! U work ur tail off u deserve it
Try Boeshield T-9 oil on the tools you don't use often. I spray it on every new tool I buy. It leaves a waxy coating on as it evaporates. Boeing invented it to protect aerospace inventory. I'm in Florida too and I use it on my lathes and hand tools to prevent rust. Worth every penny. CRC also makes a similar product.
I did a multizone in my house when my 20 year old heat pump died a year ago and they are doing great for heat and AC. They do tend to do better if you let them run all the time though just adjust the temperature up and down as needed.
I would of recommended to you putting both units on the back wall of the shop and just instill some fans from keeping both units in the same spot to save space outside and the direct air flow from the unit would cool the shop and the fans would keep the cool air moving around... but how you did it will still 100% work and like I said in your other video when you said you got the units, 1 million percent worth getting those mini splits
I had a combo mini-split added to my garage 2 years ago. Agree - my productivity went up a lot having the environment a more stable temperature year round. without a loud noise source. warms it up to about 50 on the really cold days and the a/c is wonderful in the summer.
Drill a small hole in the center of the floor, and get a dehumidifier to help remove moisture from the air. Will help immensely
I would mount one in line near the lifts...and one near the back side.....also if you build that hangout loft... Since heat rises the loft would be naturally hotter than below(since this is the 2 main areas you will be working)....all on the same side wall(otherwise each unit will be pushing across from each other and showing the room to be colder and it will cut the the thermostat sooner)
That is a dream come true, can't wait to see it completed.
Program your temps higher at night but let the units run to maintain humidity levels. Insulate your doors and keep your filters clean and you’ll really like the difference it makes in your shop and very cost effective … when I install the condensers I build a platform under them to elevate away from mowers and pets and non pets mice and snakes seem to like them for homes . Nice setup enjoy .. My customers really like them
i have A/C in my garage and it doesn't really make it all that much cooler but like your saying, it pulls a lot of the humidity out and makes a HUGE difference. ill never go without it now. stoked to see you build out the shop and what you do with all the space.
I'd set them both on a schedule. Something like 75 during the day and you could even bump it up to 80 at night. You said it yourself, humidity is your enemy and all those tools are, literally, your family's heirloom fortune. It's stuff that lasts lifetimes so spend the few extra bucks to protect it 👌
You are living the Dream!!! Big Congrats to you!!!!
Just to share an idea… I put a 120VAC mini split unit in my 24’ enclosed trailer. I put the outdoor unit inside in the v nose. I used foam board to duct the exhaust out two vents I cut in the front of the trailer. I cut out the floor under the unit for the intake, then built a foam board doghouse around the whole thing for the intake duct. I put my toolbox in front of it and built a workbench over the whole thing. The inside unit I installed over the man door. A 3000 watt inverter ran it fine. In anything other than direct sunlight it did great though I’m sure insulation would fix even that. Never had an issue for several years until the trailer was stolen.
I guess ill watch him so anything from torquing a crank to installing a ac... love it
If you like this he has videos of him trimming bushes as well 🤷😂
@@Matty.Hill_87 haha I know !!
@@remington940 it's mad what you end up watching on UA-cam sometimes 😂
Set them at a comfortable temp and leave them alone. I have 40x50 shop - during warm months I set at 72, and in winter I do 60 degrees on all the time. I have 17 ft ceiling and 2 fans and only one 36K unit. I don't have the humidity you do, but the dehumidifier in that MR cool still pulls a ton out of the air. You should be able to be working in a hoody inside that giant yeti cooler you built!
Get a couple 3 blade metal ceiling fans. You'll be amazed at how much air they move, I just leave them on med, almost silent. And keep the air circulating...
I've said it before and will say it again white pegboard on the lower parts of the walls hang tools bolt bins etc. Also build a small insulated room on the side of the building for your compressor it is a game changer
G'day,
Awesome job man. One thing you should do is continue the outside cable in the covering right up to the compressor to make it all uniform and perfect for us OCD'ers.
So thanks for sharing man ✌️Peace from Melbourne Australia.
I wouldn't worry too much about them being perfectly super duper level. I've had a 20k btu unit installed in my bus/rv for the last couple years, and it is still alive and kicking.
You are going to be surprised at how well they keep the shop cool with that closed cell insulation. Get some ceiling fans for the winter to keep the hot air off the ceiling. Don't run the ceiling fans in the summer with the AC on.
You placed these exactly as I would have. You were more excited about your heat-pump than I was about mine, and I was really excited!
Friendly reminder that you run the fans in opposite directions summer and winter. In the summer you run them anti-clockwise to create a cooling downward breeze. In the winter you run them clockwise to circulate the air and level out the temps. In winter mode a fan will suck up cool air and push warm air down the walls.
@@DonOblivious in a tall space a heat zone is usually allowed to form up high (above the outputs). You don't want to blow air from the upper warm zone down into the occupied cool zone in the summer in these scenarios.
Best case if you want airflow is to have flor fans to move the cool zone air around.
You need a ceiling fan too. One of those big ass fans. Stratifying the air will make it more comfortable and efficient.
Awesome man, I'm happy for you, well deserved nice shop. Love seeing people get what they want and love seeing your journey, can't wait to see the Vette dominate round 3 Klutch Kickers. Congrats
I'm so glad you went with mini splits. I'm a refrigeration tech and I love mini splits. I have one in a camp that's ran off a 5k generator. You'll probably want to have a couple fans to help move the air around. Great work man
Just a thought you might want a exhaust fan somewhere in your shop for welding and painting. Awsome shop by the way.
It’s awesome that it was so simple to make your building have a/c! A small suggestion that works great in my shops would be to put large ceiling fans with a lot of blades so you can run them on a low speed and circulate the warm air up top and mix it with the cooled air below.
an energy recovery ventilator (erv) should really be on your list… it brings fresh air in, passing it across the cooler inside air in a heat exchanger without mixing them. something to consider since you’ll be in an enclosed space with lots of solvents around.
For painting plywood use house paint and a roller ! It’s way more wrecker then cans and get much better coverage
I had a 18k mitsu installed last year, best decision by far. You’ll love it
Looking in to putting in Mr. Cool minisplits in an older farmhouse so this video is very well timed.
taylor your smart enough to figure out the diy solar systems i hope i see it in the future also they have solar and passive roof vents
I seriously can't get enough of your videos Taylor, my niche is car builds.. I love my drifting n all that but watching something come together is what I live for, Thankyou for all that you do and I can't wait for the vette to be finished. 👌 ❤
Personally I think indoor metal like the outside is the way to go in a garage. You can just power wash the walls and the floor
Just what I was thinking, also looks cleaner
If you are working in florida, looks dont matter. Comfort does
Or do the same walls in a self car wash. That plastic material
Don’t power wash inside. The water will get trapped and rust it out.
4'x8' PEG Boards ‼️ Best material decision I made when closing in my spray foam job in the shop #useful 😅
Glad to see them in, worth the money and not as expensive to run as people think.
Congrats on the a/c system. Now the next thing to do is the floors. Then you can start putting your things into the new garage.
Just like people have been saying humidity is the biggest thing to keep under control. I don't have experience with those units but I'm sure they have a humidity control mode. For overnight I'd say just set them to keep the humidity under about 65%. They will run the indoor fan real slow and really ring that air out while sipping electricity. Then if you want it cooler when you get in there it should happen pretty quick with a lot of the latent load already taken care of.
I would definitely install a ceiling fan for two
Gratz! Luv the show. I only have a two car garage, but we finished it, insulated, heat and air con. Best thing ever.
Have you looked into gutters at all? Was just thinking about how much it rains down there and you're going to have a perimeter of water damage around the shop and possibly onto the new AC units? Shop is looking sick! Really enjoying watching the progress of the build
There’s roof rake on the sides of the building. Nothing goes over the sides. Won’t get anymore water up against the building.
Be good to have a rain water tank to use on gardens. Most new houses in Western Australia have to have a rain water tank of some description and solar power panels on the roof of the house and workshop.
@@pratt1bp it’s Florida dude. They don’t need to collect the rain water like y’all do. 😭
Just wanna say I been supporting since the RamCharger and before your built your trailer! Great job to see how far you’ve come!
Man I love this Channel and your Drifting. N your information on products and past experiences... Rock on stay safe and good luck this Year Mr. Ray
Am I the only one that screamed; "watch the overspray on the Cephiro"!! Lol. Amazing work man, so happy for you!
Judging by the comments, nope. He really needs some sort of temporary "spray booth." Even if it's just some plastic drop cloth sheets he hangs for spray projects.
Taylor is really, really bad about shit like this because he absolutely refuses to google stuff and do what a tutorial says. He's proudly a bonehead that will blunder his way through projects rather than taking a single bit of advice. Like he's PROUD that he ruins paint jobs because he doesn't listen to advice, and he's so proud about it he literally states in videos that he's proud about not taking advice. My only complaint about the channel is that he's so, very, anti-education. I've literally never painted a car and I'm more educated on the subject that he is.
Example: DIY Car Painting 101: your floor should be wet. Hose it down before painting. That's like, literally, the most basic thing you should know if you're spraying a car. The floor is where most of the dust is, dust makes paintjobs look like shit, and hosing it down with water cuts down on how much dust ends up on your paint job. If he wasn't such a fucking bonehead, he would know that. But he doesn't, because he's proudly anti-educational. It's a zero dollar technique to make the paintjob look better. Fuck the Florida education system that turns out people with such idiotic stances like this.
Do the loft now before you move completely in ! Why wait when everything is in. It would be a 2-3 day project once you guy the materials .
Keep them on it usually takes more energy to cool everything off than to maintain a constant temp. Worst case have the thermostats go up a few degrees when you’re not in there.
Those things are most efficient when left on. They modulate and temper the air
Get a few commercial ceiling fans to help distribute your conditioned air. You'll notice a huge difference. They will reduce cold and hot spots. Mount them two or three feet below the roof. As long as they don't interfere with your lifts in
and possible mezzanines I wish to install in the future. You've got a nice shop!
~Stay healthy, happy, and safe. ~
Mini split in the garage now too. Even tho there is much less insulation those units are much more efficient
My buddy just put them in his house. And they work amazing.
put a disconnect on the outside. I would put one in with a breaker but you can put one without one and will work fine.
You can keep the units running 24/7 will draw less current when you set them on auto raise the temp when you leave to like 76 and when you come back lower it and it will not have to go thru the big draw in amps when it’s hot inside. When they are on all the time and in auto they lower the speed of the inside and outside unit and speed up when they have to and make sure you clean them filters once a month if you don’t want the unit to struggle or leak water.
awesome progress! i may have to get a mini split for cooling some day.. it gets humid up here in MI when its summer but nothing like you folks in FL
Congrats buddy.