TFS: Fronius Transsteel 2200
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- Опубліковано 27 лип 2024
- Quite possibly the most advanced and feature rich multi-process welding machine in existence. This was a tough review for us because we couldn't believe how much it actually does! Check out some of the awesome features the Fronius Transsteel 2200 has to offer in this honest review.
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Every time I talk to him in person, he brings up the Fronius. This is probably the most sincere video he has put out.
Angry Beard Man I feel like all his videos are sincere. He’s just an all around good guy that tells the truth.
Oh, he is sincere in all his videos. He won't plug any product he doesn't stand behind. I've heard him, on the phone with manufacturers, telling them he wouldn't endorse their product because he didn't believe in it.
I'm just saying, he's legitimately thrilled about the Fronius.
Amazing Review!!! i guess that i need to practice more with my TS2200! I have a review too, but i am not a professional welder, and the review is in spanish LOL, I have a robustness test too! this machine is the one and only!
Verey
Very nice review, well done!
Great to see how the industry never stop coming out with greater thing
Great review 👏! I'm demoing one next week.. can't wait to try it now! I have many industrial lincoln machines but looking for a travel size unit.. with these capabilities.
Awesome machine. Thanks for the review.
My stick welder is from the before the cooling fan age and my Hobart beta mig is a nightmare. Would be an awesome upgrade.
As far as a multi process machine goes, I want one! I am sold on the aluminum feature. I like the fact you don't have to switch out to a push pull or spool gun. I currently have two Miller Multi-matic machines and as far as putting all eggs in one basket, its the only way ill do it. My little Miller suitcase 200 has paid my mortgage and has saved my ass time and time again.
I think I'm convinced! I'm just a home DIYer, but like a UA-camr says, " Buy Once and Cry Once" so I'll spend the 2500 bucks and cover all the bases and skip all the other sketchy machines out there, the wire reel setup is awesome, the 15' hoses, just the overall machine itself and everything about it. I may never have to buy another machine.
I was noticing behind you, lol, you've got a nice little collection of other machines behind you... One breaks, move to the next one... Lmao
Excellent Review buddy, I have had my 2200 for about 3 months now and as you say it is a brilliant machine. The waterproofing of this machine along with its ability to run off of a long extension cord make it a damn good machine when your working up inside a revolving screening drum out in the elements. Its not the cheapest machine out there but its certainly one of the best. With regards to the basic stick welding function......... I went out and bought the fronius transpocket 180 with pulse function, that also has tig function and will also run from a massive extension lead. People will moan about Fronius not being cheap, at the end of the day you get what you pay for and if you want quality, reliability and a name you can trust......... Fronius is the one
I know I catch a lot of flack for talking so much about Fronius, but they really are that amazing.... I'm literally blown away by the capabilities. I never knew something like this existed to literally change what we know about welding.
@@TheFabricatorSeries Sincere thanks for the professional opinion. But how would the TS2200 compare with the Everlast multi-process machines with HF TIG in addition to all that is offered here on MIG? I'd love a video about that and I bet many others would too.
Does the stick function at least have arc force and adjustable start? and if not, why not when its supposed to be a multi-process, sounds like they want us to purchase a transpocket (now Ignis model).
Won't this also work from a massive extension? think that is just due to power factor correction which I guess this also has?
Can you buy glass cups for the tig?
great review
I’m sold on this machine. I’ve been looking for a multi process for a while and just stumbled across this. the price is great for what you’re getting. Heavy duty hardware, multiple settings such as spray transfer for mig, and mig aluminum from a 15’ whip! Only thing that sucks is it’s not ac. I’m ready to do a couple more jobs so I can afford this gem.
So You can spray with this machine?
I am a complete novice and I am looking for a multi process welding. This is on the upper end of the price range of the ones I have been looking at but I would rather buy a better product once vs buying a cheaper one today then having to get another one in a couple years. Would you buy this over some of the other models that are in the $2000 range?
They now have a pulse setting, please give it a look.
my Fronius does pulse stick which what I use all the time, does the 2200 do pulse stick?
Hello can someone explain me what is the difference betwein tac function and f-p which is the pulse . Please . And the f-p function can work simultaneously with the tac function?
I just called a dealer in York, PA. Wow, slightly over $2800.00 but, it is 3 machines in one. Awesome welder! other than scratch start, not a fan. If the machine gets in your way, ship it to me and I will cover the shipping :-)
Would you take this or a Helvi 220 pulse mig for dedicated aluminium?
I use the trimix gas on stainless steel. So I can’t use the machine with that gas?
Hate to lose ac on the tig side. Spool gun on a Sip or Jasic machine still saves quite a few bucks!
Great video
Have you found a foot pedal that fits this unit? I know ck makes an adapter to run a ck torch.
Thank you for your video. To the point and informative!
Have you ever used the Firepower 220i 3 + 1 that's what I have I'm trying to learn more about it I want to say it's made by Linkin if I done my homework writing I haven't actually used it yet I've had it for a while but have not had a chance to use it was wondering what your take on it is and if you would give a episode about it
Very good video well done
I love this welder and have been in the fence with buying it. What has turned me a away is the scratch only. If it was HF I would own it already
Conner McPherson it’s not scratch its liftstart
Big difference
@@martinandersson5278 yep bug difference, you only bring the tungsten close to the work peice, no scratching
not true ,,, thats hf , high freq that works that way ,,
lift arc you touch the tungsten , then as you lift it the arc starts.. hence the term lift arc.
have u changed in pistol cable spiral wire lead when u switched to aluminium welding or u kept it stock ?
How much does the mig or tig Coast?
AWS states 1/8” 3mm OR BELOW you can weld vertical down
Can it weld 1.2mm solid wire steel
Hello thank You for this test . I have a question what do You think about Paton 250 pro with compare to this fronius ? Jest regards .
Hey what power were you running? 110? 220?
Cool, I didn't know there was one welder that does all. Can you add spot welding tongs to it?
Garage Time - They make spot welding tig cups but not sure about tongs. That would be a cool video 🤘
Can't run a 6010 though?
@@samnottheotherone4363 Salesmen say no, but it does have the required 90V open circuit voltage, I will try it, soon as it comes.
Did u change the liner befor aluminum?
Nice review. Can this machine also perform dual shield flux core welds on 1-inch thick steel project? What is it's duty cycle(s)?
This comment is rather old... so you prob already have an answer.
But the TransSteel2200 is more of a portable welding tool for low duty cycle work. Its perfect for those remote onsite repairs and everything youd ever need for a hobbyist welder.
But for production work, high duty cycle work, or anything super heavy. I wouldn't suggest going with the transsteel. Its max rated output is 220amps on CV with a 60%duty cycle. when running 1" stuff you probably would need a little more than that...
Instead id go with the TPSi series. Which can range from 270amps to 600amps with water cooling options etc...
"it just welds" kinda reminds me to nVidia's "it just works" lol
Fronius 2200 or HTP Pro Pulse 220 MTS if you were only planning on buying one machine for home use? Want to fab up steel bumpers, rock sliders, an aluminum rack, and exhaust on my truck.
Any body knows how much is the machine thanks
i couldn't find any video on youtube about that machine doing TIG weld
Excellent review boss! I'm in the market for a multi machine, and would love that one, except......I can't find anyone who sells/supports 'em.....kinda like when Chucky reviewed the little Fronius inverter years ago 😐
There is a vendor/supplier search in the description. Just click it and search the map for the closest to you. A few companies online also sell them.
Im looking to upgrade my mig machine and Im trying to compare the HTP pro pulse 220 MTS to other high end machines and get something that is super versatile with synergic capabilities. What's your opinion between these two machines? Would this one be better or more versatile and why? Witch one would you rather buy? I think the user interface might be nicer on the HTP and tig functions might be more complete but im buying a machine mostly for mig because I already own a nice HTP invertig 221 so im not super concerned about tig functionality unless either of these machines has some kind of awesome feature that the invertig 221 doesn't. Are there any other machines that I should consider that aren't made in china such as everlast?
I find myself in a similar situation a year later. Did you get one yet?
Looks like a very capable unit. It does have a couple of points I'm not crazy about, most importantly and not limited to just this brand but all brands of "All In One" machines have one major draw back! If the machine dies, you lose all ability to work!
Having 3 separate machine allows you to have a backup if your first choice for the job fails you in some way.
"Don't put all your eggs in one basket!" Comes to mind immediatley!! Personally, I'd rather have 3 separate machines. Even 2 if I can't afford all 3 at once. Great features though. Hope they put all of that in each single process machine!
patrick farley I would say the independent machines run the way hands down 🤘
fronius machines are pretty bullet proof.. very very hard machines to kill
Forgeting one thing, Fronius do not break.....ever.
Out of all the welders you have which is your go to welder? I have a Hobart 210 mvp looking for something different
I heard the Hobart 210 MVP was great, if you're a bodybuilder.
Thanks for the honest review Justin,i am looking into the Fronius or a Dynasty for my new machine,
the Lincoln, ESSAB ,Kemmpi,CIG just seem to lack in all areas on Quality.
And i am a Old Lincoln Guy :)
HTP
@@pajapajic8809 HTP made in Italy, a very solid machine!
I want to buy my first welder. I weld for a living, we build tanks for the oil fields. I want to buy my own to build trailers and bbq pits. What do you recommend
What process are you looking for? What kind of power do you have available? What's your budget?
Can you use the stitcher function be used for welding aluminum?
yep. Spot function can be used for any synergic line.
I have noticed that Fronius foot pedals have a ten pin plug. The TransSteel has and eight pin plug using six of those pin positions on the torch plug. What sort of foot pedal is compatible with that thing?
You can get the pinout online, some people rewire cheap pedels to run with it., its essentially just 3 wires, +10, gnd and wiper.
"Made in.... " what country?
I'd love to have one of these at work. I MIG weld aluminum all day and to be able to use a normal MIG gun instead of a spool gun would be amazing. Do they have something comparable to the MillerMatic 252 with the same capability?
The Tranny Shop Yes. They have the big brother called the TransSteel 2700
I noticed you stating that the TIG function was "Scratch Only"... According to the Spec-sheet, it states "Lift Arc Ignition". Please clarify this.
Farrer Sales it’s lift arc TIG. Touch work piece and lift off
Nice rig. Now lemme go see the price tag on these things.
How does the Fronius compare to the Esab rebel? I think I can see an Esab in the background.
Well, their don't play In the same level, the Fronius machines are tipically more expensive. I will change my Esab for a Fronius one without any regrets but, hey, I have to sell a kidney to buy a Fronius!
Podrían subtitularlo en español por favor
No aluminium pulse weld?
I'm from Addis Abeba, I watch your videos a lot. Bro Can you look up"Finder" arc welding machine? Are they good or bad?
Hey brother! I have two questions I’m hoping you or someone can answer. Will this machine weld flux core? And will this machine allow for a CK worldwide TIG Torch with some sort of adaptor? Thanks for the great video, keep it up✌️✌️
Flux core with dual shield I meant
Any experienced with 6012 rod? I have about a hundred and forty pounds of it in my garage.
Two drawbacks for the 6012 rod include its thin penetration profile and extra post-welding clean-up because of its thick waste material from smelting. Its meant for horizontal position, no special welder needed, probably similar to 6013.
Fronius … best in the business 🙏🤙
What is the thickest aluminum that you could mig weld with this machine?
I wonder! thank you
I've ran a lot of small portable wire feeders the real test is running self shielded .045 wire this wire so hard and stiff that it breaks most machines I've ever used, I've used Miller, Lincoln, excetera doesn't matter they all eventually break down but I am curious how this machine would hold up looks beefier?
interested as well
Audi uses them, they rarely break.
do you have to use the foronius torch for tig ., or will any torch be compatible , i know theres a euro connector conversion to get away fron the foronius mig gun.
You can get a conversion, but its expensive.
@@engjds ah ,,, always a catch
I really don't like the TIG torch it's so stiff and difficult to work with.
Great video brother. I’m still very curious how this stacks up to my HTP pro pulse- they look like they have all the same features. I love the silicon bronze program as well I use my HTP Silbro on galvanized and it works great.
HTP is a Stel
grumpybill well HTP is HTP America they sell more than welders but yes HTP has Stel make them for HTP
. They are all pre programmed and specked for USA gases, wire etc. just like the same company makes Rtech and Everlast. Stel is the Miller of Europe, Stel makes great stuff.
@@weldingjunkie whose the lincoln?
grumpybill Lincoln is Pepsi Miller is coke LOL IMO Lincoln is putting out the same home owners crap miller is. The mp210 and the matic 211 all Junk along with the other stuff..I do like my dynasty though. High end stuff is good. I’d rather my HTP(Stel) over both of them any day and twice on Sunday.
Stel is very popular in Europe indeed, but they are not the Miller or Lincoln there, they are just one of multitude of top welding equipment manufacturers. There is EWM, Lorch, Merkel, Kemppi and Fronius (With Fronius being the most expensive) just to mention a few.
Thanks for the review. Very well done! Can it stick weld cellulose electrodes like 6010?
Preciv, have you used your transteel yet? Any feedback?
@@BravoActual4756 Not yet, still in the box, I had to travel for a while. All i did so far is gather info about the machine and what it can and cannot do. I am even contemplating exchanging it with the Transsteel 2700 for more power when I get back, not sure though.
The machine is very well built and has very nice reviews, so if you are looking at one for around the 200 amp range and don't mind the lack of 6010 functionality, I would say it's a fantastic machine from what I have gathered so far.
Not to confuse you, but if you are in the market for such machine, I would also take a serious look at the HTP Pro Pulse 220. (rebranded Stel, made in Italy, and Stel is a top manufacturer in Europe and make machines for a lot of big names in the industry). Anyways, the machine does pulse welding, holds bigger wire spools (bigger spools are cheaper and easier to find) and seem to have more voltage range which is useful if you are doing other processes like Spray Transfer or Dual Shield (maybe these futures aren't very helpful for someone in their hobby shop?) On the other hand, The Fronius is more rugged/build tough, has power correction factor that allows the usage of very long extension cords, has slightly better duty cycle and slightly more amps (20 more). Again, maybe not so important for a hobbyist.
Have you tried 6010? it has an high enough open circuit votage (90V) which suggests it can.
@@engjds it can't. The maximum voltage for MMA is 27.2 volts. That wouldn't run 6010. It wouldn't run 6011 either. 6010 needs at least 30 volts while welding (not OCV)
@@Precivilization I believe thats the welding voltage, the open circuit voltage(max) for that welder is 90V which 6010 requires, so unless I am missing something, in theory it could run it.
For the quality, it's a bargain. Amazing review.
Can u mig the silicon bronze to put aluminum plates together?
Perhaps in braising mode?
I’m a bit worried about the drive mechanism being a lot of plastic. Hopefully it’s durable plastic. Justin, how’s the durability of the drive roller assy ?
Apparently its a well made roller system, not all plastics are equal, some almost as strong as metal.
What about consumables???....Are they all proprietary????....Looks like the TIG torch is a little THICK!!!
crazyrat51 it is Fronius consumables but they make welding leads to go on Miller, Lincoln , ESAB etc....
Do you have to change the liner to weld aluminum?
Officiall,y yes, but peeps aint and it works.
do they have a model that will work on a standard 115v? also, where can i buy ?
I think this is a duel voltage machine. 110 or 220-230
Yes, they have multivoltage versions.
is there a pedal option for tig
tom thompson no, not at all. It's is primarily a MIG machine, TIG is an after thought
Fronius 2200 or kemppi minarcmig??
What is a better welder that or the esab 235
UK distributers are removing ESAB from their line up because so many were failing, fronius seem rock solid though.
Great review and really helpful. I was actually considering buying this welder based on your review right up until you said it's a scratch start only machine. Do you know which model has hi-freq? The only processes I'm interested in are mig and tig.
its lift , not scratch ,, as far as i can see
I think the new HTP pro pulse 220 mts has high frequency start tig. Its very similar to this machine in price and features. It does mig, tig, and stick. Has tons of cool features like pulse mig, pulse on pulse ect ect.
Its lift, I do not see any disadvantage with lift over HF.
@@engjds you need hf for aluminum and other alloys
@@nathanschmaltz672 Why isn't lift tig suitable for those?
So seem like you use a lot of different welder brand, fronius is the best? Better than esab?
esab unreliable.
How thick/thin of aluminum can this machine weld?
Yes
I’m curious too
I bought this welder, mainly based on your review. It would be nice to tell viewers that to weld aluminum, one has to buy a different liner, different drive rolls and oversized contact tips. Could have bought the HTP and a spool gun and still be money ahead.
Damn...what do I need to buy, what size?, know nothing about Al welding yet, got 0.8 and 1mm tips,, 0.8mm and 1mm liner.
Can this machine weld with AC aluminum?
It can mig it on DC, but not Tig, save money and mig or braize it, braizing is almost as strong as AC tig.
Great review! I assume it does both AC and DC TIG?
no , just dc ,, granted dc with a pulse , no ac
Try EWM pico mig 180
id like to see that too
It has arc force for stick welding bro
and hot start, plus auto-cut off I believe.
Use 7016 instead of 6010 on open root
Is that just as good?
I bought one and forgot to research how expensive and not readily available the consumables are. Do you sell the consumables for the transteel 2200. Because I have yet to find consumables in Vegas.
your mistaken. contact tips and nozzles can be found at several online shops and are no more expensive than miller. but if you know how to weld youll rarely ever have to replace those. over 50lb wire my contact tip still looks good. havent needed to change it yet.
Thank you. Good info. Very much appreciated!
Can it weld tig Al?
No it cannot
Can u tig weld aluminum with this machine?
Nope you need AC for that, but you can mig it.
Is this scratch start tig or lift
eddie edd Lift Tig
It is both. You choose
Does it have pulse settings on aluminum
Why haven't you reviewed any ESAB, LINCOLN ELECTRIC or a MIGATRONIC welding machine ?
Btw nice video, good content as always.
I have an Esab next to me right now. All machines must survive testing. Lincoln sucks. No experience with Migatronic.
@@TheFabricatorSeries
Why Lincoln sucks sir ?
Cause i know in U.S you have popular and big companies like MILLER ,HOBART and they are like go to options,
But here in India they are fairly popular and here ESAB, FRONIUS, & LINCOLN are like major companies for welding power sources.
So can you please tell me something why Lincoln sucks ?
@@snehojeetbagh5727 Lincoln used to be a very good company but the quality and features for their machines decreased while the price stayed the same or increased. They just aren't what they used to be.
@@TheFabricatorSeries oohh okay
Thank you a lot sir for your time. 🙂✌️
@@TheFabricatorSeries Distributers in the uk have stopped selling ESAB due to the number of faulty units being returned,
Is posible to weld 6010 rod with transsteel2200?
They say not.....
How much is this machine?
Just got one yesterday. $1994 mig/stick, from Bakers Gas. To add tig figure ~$400 more.
All companies I checked were same price. ASK for a printed operation manual! They are not provided! Stinks to try 136 pages on-line! And Austrian-made but doesn’t clearly translate to English for spare parts ordering, information or operation.
Fronius 2200 compared HTP Pro Pulse 200?
I have no hands on experience with the Pro Pulse 200
The HTP inverter MIGs like the Pro Pulse 200/220 MTS can hold 12" spools of wire, this Fronius model only 8" spools. They are both obviously synergic, but the HTP ProPulse MIGs have pulse-aluminum and double-pulse. Seems the Fronius 2200 has similar sets of parameters available to set, but no pulse nor double-pulse like the HTP ProPulse units. Fronius lists 3 separate liners for steel (030,035/040,045) and three MORE for the same size wires in aluminum, so gotta be careful on that because you might potentially need 6 liners to be swapping, lol. On the Pro Pulse 200/220, you only need one liner for steel 030/035/045, but there is a whole 'nother gun for aluminum welding since it has it's own dedicated graphite liner. It is also shorter at only 8ft but that it because of the pulse and double-pulse capabilities --- the gun needs to be shorter to accommodate that kind of pulse operation. One US vendor website, they list 5 gas nozzles for $140 !!! I guarantee you that the ProPulse nozzles are nowhere near that expensive! A 5-pack of diffusers will run you $63 ! Yikes! Way more cost for replacement parts than the ProPulse units. If you want another MIG gun so you can have one for steel and another for aluminum, for the Fronius that will set you back a cool $500! for a single gun! Ouch! A replacement HTP gun is like only $150! HTP sells durable CuCrZr (copper-chrome-zirconium) extra life tips that really stand up to spray and pulse-spray transfer, so tip life is extended compared to regular copper tips. Oh and with the Pro Pulse 220 MTS units, you can order add-on's like: Remote slider control, spool gun, and even an air cooled push-pull gun for serious aluminum fabrication. The remote control works with all three methods: regular MIG gun (whether it's aluminum or steel), and with the spool-gun AND with the push-pull gun to synergically control the welding output! That right there is the ultimate in welding control. If you want pulse and push-pull with Fronius, you're looking at $11,000 at minimum. If you want their low-spatter-control or their modified pulse arc feature with aluminum, you're looking at nearly $15,000 ! The HTP Pro Pulse 300 would run circles around it for less than half the cost, for steel, aluminum, silicon bronze, stainless steel, gas less flux core, dual shield flux core. A much better value IMO.
@@zod-engineering-welding Thank you very much for the detail comparison! I am "on the fence" between this Fronius and your HTP ... How long have you used it and are you happy with it?
Do you still use this Fronius?
Or is it a one shot deal??
Hell yeah, I still use it. It's the best MIG I have.
best of the best....
I'm impressed but I fear the price. Not afraid to say its more impressive than my Lincoln 210MP
Dresdon Acacin trade it in 🤘
Lincoln great, but there is a new bad ass in town!
i would buy that machine to do anything OTHER than tig welding.... The tig torch and all the consumables being proprietary to the Fronius machines is NOT cool one bit.... Plus for the love god would you just look at that torch body and cable? lol i say no more.
Nice review on the machine tho!! love your content!
It takes a few passes to get used to it. Last I heard Fronius was listening to the feedback and making changes on the torches but I dont know when that will happen. I'm pretty sure you can adapt a torch to it as well.
thanks for the response!
songer121 you mean Mig not Tig right? It’s a mig welder truly.
you are right these torch styles suck dick (worked with them) and they have their own consumables 😐
No i def mean tig, it's probably a great mig/stick welder, hell im sure its a great tig welder to. BUT there is no way in hell im paying extra for the tig package when it's all proprietary stuff like the torch and consumables.... But thats just me.
So it doesn't output AC so you can't TIG aluminum. Not a true MP
Shame they don't have double pulse .
have to pay double or triple to get that with fronius , some thier welders are 20k
More like five times
i had to wait until 2020 to actually see fronius offered by various online retailers, ridiculous but welcome development. Watching you wrap that mig line in knots makes me cringe! :D
Yes it's great, but how much does it cost? My pocket could only afford a cheap Hyl $400 ac/dc tig plus the other $600 in consumables that you need to get running (a little over $300 just for a tank and gas). I guess what I'm saying is that I'd like to see more cheap hobby welders and not these professional machines because I just can't justify the expense.
You'll see them as soon as they exist. I'm working with a few, but the requirements for appearing on TFS include "quality & value". Without those, the machine wont do you any good to even know about. We send more junk machines back to manufacturers that fail than we make reviews about. Theres so much garbage out there that just isnt worth the money.
@@TheFabricatorSeries That I can believe, I'm working with warranty repairs right now.
When is Fronius give away? Only way I can afford it is to win it.
Working on it...
@@TheFabricatorSeries only took a whole year. But I'm still here. An currently 5th place in the leader board. Just came back to this video to see if there are any extra codes. Really hope to bring this 1 home. Definitely appreciate your hard work and dedication.