I remember Doug's Super was the same on his release, but they changed it into basically the Super of Gus. I wonder why Supercell doesn't do anything about Willow's Super.
😂, luckily i didnt have to go through all 79, just the ones who had significant speed changes and the base movement speed brawlers. it was mainly alot of research on brawler speeds tho
An Idea I’ve had to buffing her super is just simply copying mandy’s super and putting it onto willow, it goes through walls, is quite fast and very wide, immediately mind controlling the first brawler it hits, this also comes with the same drawbacks, the super can be cancelled because of its delay, and can leave willow vulnerable, personally I think this would be a decent rework, she doesn’t really lose her panic button capabilities either because she still has her gadget for those situations.
That would be nice, but one thing that makes Willow good against assassins is being able to just immediately control them and run them away/attack their teammates. It would def be interesting
@@ThatOneWillowMain yeah I guess now that I think about it, willow does counter assassins the best, but is also the most dangerous when mind controlling them, a willow hexing a mortis would more often than not, be more effective than say a colt. So taking away that instant mind control gimmick could change her playstyle more drastically than I thought.
Supercell can't even make her super easier to hit ,if they do, there is a high chance she will become extremely OP in brawl ball and lead to either getting the buffs reverted or taking her ability to make the opponent self score Willow is one of my fav brawlers, but she is super unstable when it comes to balancing
I completely agree, it’s almost better because then if your just really skilled at hitting her super than she is really good, so it all just depends on player skill
We should have more Brawlers that are actually challenging to use, rather than button=instant profit. That's why I like Willow, it actually feels like you have to think about what you will do
lolll, lots of research on movement speeds and figuring out what speeds would mean what tile away. the weirdest one is that when jacky activates hypercharge and gadget, she actually moves faster than max with her super, but her hurtbox is bigger so she gets hit from farther away
You should've also considered brawler hitboxes, there are few with large hitboxes, and the majority of brawlers have normal hitboxes, but it is good to analyse every single scenario.
I hope Willow receives some rework to her super, considering it's ratio is so small at least let it go through the walls, or make it act like her normal attacks (with a smaller ratio of course) PD: this is just a wild guess, and has nothing to do with the video, but i'm pretty sure we all think that willow Hypercharge will make her able to use the other brawlers supers.
I think willow should be disappear when mind controlling someone,like get inside someones body and appear exact place immediately after mind controlling because shes too vulnerable while using her super or they can just increase her shield protection
I main Willow and I swear, her super can make some nice plays but those happen VERY barely, I don't understand why she doesn't have a wide super like other brawlers with broken supers such as Gene, Doug, Mandy, Charlie, Cordelius, Otis, etc
ohh lol, it was just a picture i found online, and this is more so when charlie was def no skill with being able to machine gun auto aim at close range and tank nearly everything with her gadget
Your right, but surge speed isn’t fast enough to get him a spot higher, I’m not placing them solely on who has a higher speed stat, they have to have a speed stat fast enough to make them move a tile closer
And it makes no sense at all this super is so hard to hit, like willow is a control brawler, has almost no damage, being a thrower makes u be under cover most of the times but the super doesn't go through walls, both gadgets are more of a utility for her than really a way to make some kind of play, and star powers just give a bit more of control, so shes basically just a walking super so no need to make so underwhelming, like it has trash range, trash width and not even a good speed, this design has never make any sense to me
Let me see if I can give any insight. She does have a decent amount of damage that is just spread out in 3 hits. If you hit all 3 it’s 7200 damage. The dive gadget def helps her to make plays, and I have won many games to it by attacking them, then going under while the poison hits them. Her first star power is decent but the second one should be run almost all the time, as the speed helps you complete objectives with her super and chase down enemies and do nearly everything so much easier and just plain better. And the super itself is very strong as if you super good you should get minimum 2 kills, so they had to make it hard to hit. But that’s almost better because now to be good with Willow you have to be skilled enough to hit the super and use the brawler you supered. I see what you’re saying but they kind of had to make her this way.
@@ThatOneWillowMain yeah i admit they probably ran a couple of designs and had to nerf her cause high skill players would probably exploit her, probably her ult proyectile range, speed and width had to be tweaked bc of it but they nerf her too much, like the her whole concept goes around her ulting, as most controllers they have a hard time getting super, even more the way her basics work by being poison damage. Imo they probably had to tweak a lot around her being used probably on BB, where a longer range could get easier goals, but it makes her very underwhelming compared to most contollers, not need to raise her skill floor by making her ult hard to hit. I still think their design for her is flawed just like grays, where they had a very strong super idea and had to make all kinds of ways to make thr brawler unusable by most players just so pros cant exploit them, they are their worst enemy.
I'm sorry but I just can't see the usefulness of that super. 1) you're vulnerable during 4 whole secondes 2) 4 secondes isn't enough to make a kill and it's not enough to move the ennemy brawler to where you want him to move 3) during this time, he can't be targeted by your team so it's basically 4 secondes of invunerability for him 4) woopsy doopsy, he's full life again, that's unfortunate 5) if he's got 10 gems before you succesfully land your super (congratulation on that, by the way), he still has 10 gems after 4 secondes 6) it doesn't go through the walls so you have to use it in a vulnerable position 7) he can't get killed while in your controle, you lost control when his hp goes below 30% Can someone please explain me how the fuck should I play willow? Cause right now, I'm useless.
Let me see if I can explain it. 1.yes that is a problem, but you can use the enemy to body block and guarantee atleast a kill on the person you supered 2. You should almost always be running obsession, because with that speed boost 4 seconds is plenty of time to use them as defense in brawl ball or use them to score, or to get a kill and then waste their ammo and bring em slightly closer to you. Or make em just run away from you guys so you can deal with the rest of the team. 3. He actually can by some brawlers, and with Colette you can actually have her cycle hypercharge by putting the person in front of the heist safe, and while they are still under your control have Colette hypercharge super them and the safe, and they get hit and Colette has another super. 4. I’d actually prefer they are full health because then I get to kill their team to run them farther into smoke or have more health to work with when scoring 5.that’s perfect that they have 10 gems after because you just put them into your spawn or put them right next to your team and waste their ammo and it’s a free kill 6. This does suck 7. No but if you super him he should end up dying once he’s out of your control
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@@Uvulo awesome!
I agree
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Willow is so fun. It's a shame she isn't stronger
Yeah, I can’t wait to see what her hypercharge is
If she was stronger she'd be a pain to deal with
@@uonossn9987 lol true, gotta keep people on their toes by being good with a mid brawler
I wish her super was easier to hit. Her super projectile needs a size buff or it should be able to pierce walls
@@DJruslan4ic I completely agree, it sucks that she’s a thrower but has to put herself out of cover to use super
I remember Doug's Super was the same on his release, but they changed it into basically the Super of Gus. I wonder why Supercell doesn't do anything about Willow's Super.
It is a strong ability Tbf, but idk
Imagine how horrible this were...79 BRAWLERS!!! 79 RETRYS!! BRO, YOU'RE INSANE!!!'
😂, luckily i didnt have to go through all 79, just the ones who had significant speed changes and the base movement speed brawlers. it was mainly alot of research on brawler speeds tho
@@ThatOneWillowMain so that's why some brawler with no speed buffs in any type of way get in the list, like Spike or Darryl...smoart decicision
It’s fun that it got recommended to me right after willows super got a width buff
😂 that’s awesome
I agree with you, playing willow with one hand can get hard sometimes
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Even worser when you have to swith hands because the main hand is tired but the other hand is wet and sticky
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playing collette is impossible
WITH ONE LEFT HAND!
An Idea I’ve had to buffing her super is just simply copying mandy’s super and putting it onto willow, it goes through walls, is quite fast and very wide, immediately mind controlling the first brawler it hits, this also comes with the same drawbacks, the super can be cancelled because of its delay, and can leave willow vulnerable, personally I think this would be a decent rework, she doesn’t really lose her panic button capabilities either because she still has her gadget for those situations.
That would be nice, but one thing that makes Willow good against assassins is being able to just immediately control them and run them away/attack their teammates. It would def be interesting
@@ThatOneWillowMain yeah I guess now that I think about it, willow does counter assassins the best, but is also the most dangerous when mind controlling them, a willow hexing a mortis would more often than not, be more effective than say a colt. So taking away that instant mind control gimmick could change her playstyle more drastically than I thought.
Making her invulnerable like the dive gadget would be good too since it's so easy to kill a willow mind controlling
Supercell can't even make her super easier to hit ,if they do, there is a high chance she will become extremely OP in brawl ball and lead to either getting the buffs reverted or taking her ability to make the opponent self score
Willow is one of my fav brawlers, but she is super unstable when it comes to balancing
I completely agree, it’s almost better because then if your just really skilled at hitting her super than she is really good, so it all just depends on player skill
eh, id say shes balanced rn. the balance changes will be a nightmare once she gets a hypercharge though
@@BabyGiraffe-re8uz eh, just give her the ability to use enemy's super like she can do with spamming button.
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When a strong super needs skill to land: 😮😮🤯🤯🤯
I know, they should honestly just make it as wide as Mandy super, should be balanced
@@ThatOneWillowMain As a main willow myself, I agree.
@@ThatOneWillowMain half the brawlers don't die to Mandy's super, willow's super has no counter play except for the willow missing... LOL
lol yeah I know, I was just messin sround
Skill? Thats pure rng
We should have more Brawlers that are actually challenging to use, rather than button=instant profit.
That's why I like Willow, it actually feels like you have to think about what you will do
Yeah you have to know what you want to do with her super
I saw that title and was like "THATS WHAT IM SAYING". Great video! Short but the time and patience it took must've been insane.
lolll, lots of research on movement speeds and figuring out what speeds would mean what tile away. the weirdest one is that when jacky activates hypercharge and gadget, she actually moves faster than max with her super, but her hurtbox is bigger so she gets hit from farther away
@@ThatOneWillowMain 😭😭 we dont deserve it dawg, thank you. Dont burnout and take it easy too. Normal brawl content is fine as well
@@hontoukarappo5912 nah ofc u guys do, and yeah I’m makin sure not to burnout
ayyy i just found ur channel, willow was my first mastery title. cool!
Awesome!
Same!
You know it's bad when the people maining her stars saying how bad it is
@@Desertigle5291 lol it’s definitely a really strong super, but accordingly hard to hit
If Willow super is buffed, she would be so fun to play
You just gotta be creative with it!
And we have other brawlers with arguably more game-breaking supers that are far easier to land
Exactly, like cord and charlie
Willow mains try not to miss challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)
Reallll
1:54 and Chuck, who is Ult, does not need to be caught at any distance at all?
Chuck has to be auto aimed from 1 tile away also, but if you get in line with his poles it’s possible to auto aim it farther
Clickbait thumbnail goes HARD! Also, love the vc type video, but i think purple text is a bit better
tbf, that one actually did miss, i just didnt show the missing one in the vid, and also, interesting🤔, ill have to see what other people say
@@ThatOneWillowMain oh lel
Willow main is seriously amazing 😅
Thanks 😅
W video so much effort for so little views you need more subs
Ty🙏🙏
Unf it's a literally broken brawler. Any lil change would make her go from unplayable to best
lol that’s why we love her, broken brawlers are hilarious
Willow is so good!
lol she’s definitely fun
She got a buff, she will get triple the size of her super xD
It’s amazing isn’t it
@@ThatOneWillowMain it isss! What a game changer this will make her wayy more fun rather than raging missing those supers
@ seriously!
You should've also considered brawler hitboxes, there are few with large hitboxes, and the majority of brawlers have normal hitboxes, but it is good to analyse every single scenario.
Tbf I hadn’t watched spens video when I made this 😅
@ThatOneWillowMain nah bro all good, I realized now that the video is 4 months old lol.
Willow super buff when
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i love playing willow so much in to be continued showdown maps
so real
Kit's Super hit chance should be like Willows Super on enemies
Haha, maybe not like that, that would be too broken
@@ThatOneWillowMain noo, wait, I ment it sideways, that Kits super should be like Willows
@@miguelcrafter2997 ngl im still a lil confused, like her super goes over walls now or that its hitbox is that big?
@@ThatOneWillowMain no, that Kits super has the small hitbox like the one from Willow that its harder to hit which would make Kit more skilled
@@miguelcrafter2997 ohhhhh oh oh, honestly that would be nice lol
Now we know!
lol yup, it’s not entire garbage, just slighrly
I hope Willow receives some rework to her super, considering it's ratio is so small at least let it go through the walls, or make it act like her normal attacks (with a smaller ratio of course)
PD: this is just a wild guess, and has nothing to do with the video, but i'm pretty sure we all think that willow Hypercharge will make her able to use the other brawlers supers.
Completely agree, and I sure hope so
You forgot to mention ultra fast movement speed with Clancy's stage III form 😞.
I did? Well I believe he would be 1 tile away
Hey uhh can you check surge 2nd form with hyper charge since they added one after this video
I think willow should be disappear when mind controlling someone,like get inside someones body and appear exact place immediately after mind controlling because shes too vulnerable while using her super or they can just increase her shield protection
That would be pretty op
in summary
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lol basically
They have to buff her
@@user-zc2ks7pd3d I think all she needs is a hypercharge
@@ThatOneWillowMain I wonder what it would do
0:01 that might be because the willow was dead
lol that def doesn’t help
Bro do u have any tips for willow in solo sd like i always die when i use my super because other brawlers attack me :(
im so close to true gold willow yayyyy
That’s insane!
I main Willow and I swear, her super can make some nice plays but those happen VERY barely, I don't understand why she doesn't have a wide super like other brawlers with broken supers such as Gene, Doug, Mandy, Charlie, Cordelius, Otis, etc
The devs prob were scared it would be too broken
@@ThatOneWillowMain They were scared of a four seconds duration 3v2 with a lot of weaknesses but not of a 10 seconds stun wide ahhhh?😭
@@UnTickconbufanda fr tho
Why the stray at the start of the video I love charlie man 🙁
ohh lol, it was just a picture i found online, and this is more so when charlie was def no skill with being able to machine gun auto aim at close range and tank nearly everything with her gadget
Grays shot is actually much harder to hit
Maybe
Not really
@@xx_rz it is, willow shot is faster
@@yozh2377 but its only one, grey can use the 2 shots in a row tactic to hit
@@xx_rz wasting 2 ammo for 2000 damage is bad
What about surge max level and Clancy max level?
Surge only gains a speed boost on lvl 2 and I covered that, can’t remember anymore now, but I do believe Clancy at max lvl has to be 1 tile closer
@@ThatOneWillowMain well I know you get the movement speed at level 2 I thought you would understand what I was saying
@@SuperMarioArya I might not understand, because he doesn’t gain anymore after that, or did I answer your question?
@@ThatOneWillowMain well I can’t really say anything
@@SuperMarioArya I’m sorry man I’m really confused here 😅
Bro, Surge has 650 speed and Bonnie is 620. They are not the same, even if it seems like that
Your right, but surge speed isn’t fast enough to get him a spot higher, I’m not placing them solely on who has a higher speed stat, they have to have a speed stat fast enough to make them move a tile closer
For willows hc I want it to deal damage to the controlled brawler
I don’t play willow so idk if it would be good
I see what you’re saying, but that would just make you lose control of the brawler faster
I have willow gold 3 mastery😎
Shes so fun
She’s very fun
And it makes no sense at all this super is so hard to hit, like willow is a control brawler, has almost no damage, being a thrower makes u be under cover most of the times but the super doesn't go through walls, both gadgets are more of a utility for her than really a way to make some kind of play, and star powers just give a bit more of control, so shes basically just a walking super so no need to make so underwhelming, like it has trash range, trash width and not even a good speed, this design has never make any sense to me
Let me see if I can give any insight. She does have a decent amount of damage that is just spread out in 3 hits. If you hit all 3 it’s 7200 damage. The dive gadget def helps her to make plays, and I have won many games to it by attacking them, then going under while the poison hits them. Her first star power is decent but the second one should be run almost all the time, as the speed helps you complete objectives with her super and chase down enemies and do nearly everything so much easier and just plain better. And the super itself is very strong as if you super good you should get minimum 2 kills, so they had to make it hard to hit. But that’s almost better because now to be good with Willow you have to be skilled enough to hit the super and use the brawler you supered. I see what you’re saying but they kind of had to make her this way.
@@ThatOneWillowMain yeah i admit they probably ran a couple of designs and had to nerf her cause high skill players would probably exploit her, probably her ult proyectile range, speed and width had to be tweaked bc of it but they nerf her too much, like the her whole concept goes around her ulting, as most controllers they have a hard time getting super, even more the way her basics work by being poison damage. Imo they probably had to tweak a lot around her being used probably on BB, where a longer range could get easier goals, but it makes her very underwhelming compared to most contollers, not need to raise her skill floor by making her ult hard to hit. I still think their design for her is flawed just like grays, where they had a very strong super idea and had to make all kinds of ways to make thr brawler unusable by most players just so pros cant exploit them, they are their worst enemy.
Sorry if i have some language errors btw, english is not my native language
@@carbe28 your good, and yeah I completely get what your saying, it’s def hard to balance out someone with such a good super like that
i like play willow
Same
Willow is my fav
Same
They also are dodging 😢
Yup
It should be wider
Agreed
I'm sorry but I just can't see the usefulness of that super.
1) you're vulnerable during 4 whole secondes
2) 4 secondes isn't enough to make a kill and it's not enough to move the ennemy brawler to where you want him to move
3) during this time, he can't be targeted by your team so it's basically 4 secondes of invunerability for him
4) woopsy doopsy, he's full life again, that's unfortunate
5) if he's got 10 gems before you succesfully land your super (congratulation on that, by the way), he still has 10 gems after 4 secondes
6) it doesn't go through the walls so you have to use it in a vulnerable position
7) he can't get killed while in your controle, you lost control when his hp goes below 30%
Can someone please explain me how the fuck should I play willow? Cause right now, I'm useless.
Let me see if I can explain it.
1.yes that is a problem, but you can use the enemy to body block and guarantee atleast a kill on the person you supered
2. You should almost always be running obsession, because with that speed boost 4 seconds is plenty of time to use them as defense in brawl ball or use them to score, or to get a kill and then waste their ammo and bring em slightly closer to you. Or make em just run away from you guys so you can deal with the rest of the team.
3. He actually can by some brawlers, and with Colette you can actually have her cycle hypercharge by putting the person in front of the heist safe, and while they are still under your control have Colette hypercharge super them and the safe, and they get hit and Colette has another super.
4. I’d actually prefer they are full health because then I get to kill their team to run them farther into smoke or have more health to work with when scoring
5.that’s perfect that they have 10 gems after because you just put them into your spawn or put them right next to your team and waste their ammo and it’s a free kill
6. This does suck
7. No but if you super him he should end up dying once he’s out of your control
I hope this helps
@@ThatOneWillowMain It does it does! Thank you, my friend, I hope I'll improve someday.
@@ssebasgoo you definitely will👍
I’m a willow makn
Sweet!
İt aint that bad cause u can counter any assassin with it
Oh for sure for sure, it can just be hard to hit is all
@@ThatOneWillowMainyeah ur true too
Ain't that bad, until assassin decides to dodge, or this assassin is from the ones, who can reach you from 3 tiles and further
@@megaloneofit5999 yes,but I meant like if an Edgay jumps on you u can counter him
@@Vanarafrank but you should use super after 0.5 seconds, so autoaim will catch him instead of throwing your super in random direction