Your feedback and alternative wedge camper ideas have been phenomenal. Thank you! I'll continue updating the spreadsheet with new options as you recommend them.
The Lone Peak does have a side ladder for the tent as an accessory. They are also one of the few who designed the bed in the tent to lift up into the overhead in order to maximize room in the bed of the truck when not in use.
Yeah Lone Peak is my choice. I also like the pop out section above the tailgate area. That with the bed pushed up for storage = a metric ton of cubic space inside. I'm getting one next year and putting in benches and table in the bed.
I've been mulling the same issues for over a year. But my rig is also my daily driver. The conclusion I have come to is a bed cap that would allow a roof top tent when I need it. Of course you sacrifice the stand inside feature. I really want to keep the weight down.- It's a really a tough choice. I wish they would build the campers with a removable roof top tent. Great discussion.
Good stuff. I also have been researching these for some time. I have a Gladiator also. See how many you can see in real life. Things I have found are the GFC and sone others have the screen on the inside. This means you have to expose the inside to bugs while you open the windows to roll them up. The camp king has a very short bed. Most units do not have much room to get up and down while others are in the bed sleeping. For these reasons and some of the ones you spoke of, my choice is the Lone Peak. The bed just lifts up. This gives you a big shelf with the bed up. When it is down, you still have 30 inches of room to move around and get up and down. The tent design also give you more elbow room. It has the vents like the Supper Pacific. Lots of t-rails inside and out for mounting. Really good truck mounts if you have rails or not. If you are tall, you will really like the longer bed platform in the Loan Peak. Also check out Overland Vesical Systems. They just came out with one. Another one out of Vegas, Dirt Box I think.
I am looking for a camper and have been leaning towards the Project M and the M1 but the price has been holding me back. In the end I decided to go with the Lone Peak as the price point and build quality fill my needs for both hunting and camping. Great Video!
Brandon, The Lone Peak also has a side ladder access option for $200 and you do not have to add the side tent doors for an extra $525 like you do with the GFC, you just add the ladder with Lone Peak. I went to the GFC site and configured a Platform Camper for my Gladiator here are the specs; Rear window only, Side tent doors, (not sure if this option includes the ladder). Delivery and install location Belgrade, MT the cheapest install/delivery location they offer. Total $8600.00 My Lone Peak specs; Juicebox & Interior Lighting, 240w (set of 2) Ultralight Solar Panels, Roof Vent Fan, Grab Handles - Set of 2, External Side Ladder, Low Load Bars, Passenger Side Vent. Free installation in Wenatchee, WA. Total $8820.00. I think the Loan Peak is worth another look for you. Also, I like the bed set up on the Loan Peak. It is on gas struts and the whole bed can be pushed up and out of the way. The GFC bed is made of flat panels that you have to move and stack.
The Pack Out Camper is another one to consider. They have some cool accessories that are pretty unique. I’m looking forward the follow up on the camper you chose. Great video, thanks!
I like my GFC on my Gladiator but I had some leaking issues but I believe this issue has been resolved by them already. The only thing I wish the gfc had was a bed that raised up on struts instead of being panels to move around. If you want to see what it looks like on a gladiator check out some of my videos. Good luck!
Thanks, I'll check out your videos. One recurring complaint I'm hearing on the GFC is that the mattress is firm. That's the trade-off to keep the top so slim, I suppose.
Great video as im in the same market....Super Pacific is hands down the best wedge camper bit way too pricey for what it is. Im stuck on the Project M or Lone Peak. I was accepted as an embassador so i may pull the trigger. GFC is not the one for me at all especially in colder weather. Oh and Lone Peak has a ladder option and would be better!
Thank you, and congratulations on the ambassador gig. After so many years in a ground tent, I'm used to finding ways to stay warm. I do miss my Freespirit Recreation RTT, though. I'll look closer at the LP ladder option, thanks!
Brandon, love that you are 'diving deep' into the off-grid scene. The the shots of the June Colorado trip were especially cool to see. I might travel a bit heavy compared to what you are planning. I will say that being able to step down from the bed into a sheltered area at night or in inclimate weather is a very nice touch. When I looked at this vs. my Rooftop tent set-up, I just felt like I would lose too much storage space by having to leave the bulk of the area under the tent open for people to be able to move around in. Really looking forward to hearing your experience especially as to explore working remotely using the Starlink system.
I'm strongly considering the Lonepeak camper for my Colorado ZR2 5' bed. I think it is the best value and a very sleek low profile design. I'm tall and I appreciate that with the full 80" length bed deployed there is still 32" of passthrough room to stand up in the bed, this is accomplished by having a much longer front overhang than the other options. The bed is also on struts so you can push it out of the way and have really great headroom in the entire 5' bed, plus the rear end of the tent pops out for even more interior volume. I also like that the side doors are full length and a nice flat panel design. It seems pretty middle of the road weight wise, I think I would go light on the options and focus on my "build out" being as light as possible. There are some really great videos out there on lightweight building practices for trailers and vans using DIY composites (Foam board and other materials) that save a ton of weight compared to typical plywood construction.
Good work on the comparison. While your tentative selection is not what I would have done, we all have different perspectives and needs which drive the ultimate decision. I've got a Super Pacific which I wouldn't trade for any of the others. Many reasons for me - door designs, single latches, construction quality, built in wire chases, t-slots and rivnuts all over.. Someone else mentioned it, but the protected vents up top are HUGE at preventing condensation issues. I just added the insulation package to it and it's super comfortable now in winter conditions also. Good luck and wish you the best with whatever you end up with.
Thanks! I've been checking out other brands and updating the spreadsheet based on feedback and comments on the video. What do you like about the Bruin? And thanks for the Alu-Cab correction. I can't add text to the video but I added it to the video description.
@@Berserkeroffroad No problem! I'm looking for something to full time in, so having a pop up hard side is the main reason. I wanted something with a lower clearance too, so not too interested in a full truck camper slide in. Anti-shanty is another i've been looking into, but base price + addons add up fast lol
I've only had my GFC for a couple months and I love it. BIG THING you need to realize with GFC (altho this kinda goes for all of them), is you need to set your expectations. This is NOT an Alu-cab, or any other $13k - $18k + camper. There are draw backs so make sure to research those. Big ones I've seen around are the tent windows and how they zip down with the screens on the inside, as well as lack of elevated ventilation in the tent. There are vent windows but there isn't a mechanism to keep snow or water/rain out when they are open so you have to get a bit creative IF you have condensation issues (I haven't so far). So long as you understand you're getting into an eco-system designed to be bare bones for YOU to mod you should have a good experience. Also ... water SHOULD NOT come into the tent area, they should have these all fixed now (they had an issue with some earlier builds they invested a LOT into R&D to fix). However, water DOES come into the bed area. Its up to you to seal the bed before install, and even then you may get some slight intrusion in heavy rainfall. This is with every topper tho for the most part. Sealing corners and bed caps will eliminate this. Also a quick note on the "quality issues" of GFC's. This lightweight wedge camper market is pretty new still and GFC has between 6500 - 7000 campers ON THE ROAD. Therefore you are naturally GOING to hear the quality issues from the largest market share holder. However this doesn't point to poor quality. It points to a larger market share holder having more campers out there and more complaints based on the fact they have the most campers out there. Its easy to get the idea that GFC is a low quality option because theres a bunch of negative reviews. The question is what is the ratio of negative experiences to positive. Most positive experiences aren't in the forums or on UA-cam, they're out using the camper. The GREAT thing GFC has is (and most would acknowledge this) the BEST customer service in this entire market. Just my 2 cents! All of the options in this vid you can't lose with! you just have to make sure you have the right expetations for experience going into whichver one you purchase!
Dude, thanks for taking the time to share all of that. GFC's minimalist approach is highly attractive to me, and I'm fine getting creative with ventilation. As far as a wedge camper goes, my #1 priority is to keep the weight down. While other creature comforts would absolutely be appreciated, I can't overlook the fact that I'll be off-road with the thing and part of the experience with the camper will be dealing with the weight of it on the truck (and with the remaining payload). Sure, I can get more comfortable for when I'm sleeping, but then I'd be sacrificing handling and reliability. It's a balance for sure. Another complaint I've heard about the GFC is the 2" mattress is quite firm, but again, that can be remedied. What's your rig and how does it handle on trails with the camper?
I'm coming from a 2016 4Runner with a 150lb iKamper on the top. My GFC is on a 2011 crew cab short bed Tacoma. MUCH lower to the ground compared to my 4runner haha so it feels perfectly fine on trails and I've seen some people get REAL tippy with GFC's on their rig's and they hold up fine! ... I have a 2-3" lift on 33" tires for reference. Dude I can't 100% confirm but shoot GFC a call. My GFC came with their "turbo nap" upgraded mattress STANDARD. They JUST swapped out the mattresses they use in their campers before my build I believe. I personally really love it! I'm a side / stomache sleeper and I sleep fine with minimal side pain in the morning. Give em a call but the 2" mattress you're referring to I believe is gone and has been upgraded to an amazingly better mattress standard with the GFC@@Berserkeroffroad
Great video I love the spread sheet. I don't know where you found the info on increased vehicle height for all the campers but I am super grateful for that. Height and weight are two big factors for me as well. I was leaning heavily into the gfc also, but really dislike the aesthetics on the outside with the non black metal on the corners. I'm considering getting a Topo Topper Mesa to step it up from the hiking gear as well.
Thank you. I scoured manufacturer websites for dimensions. Some give the closed height above the bed, which I subtracted the 23" of the height of the Gladiator hardtop from to get the final "height above the top" value.
Nice comparison. I'm in planning stages as well. Looking to remote work on the road. I hope lone peak stays inexpensive. I don't think anyone actually has one yet.
They do an excellent job with production updates on their UA-cam channel. They started delivering a few months ago, and they're ramping up production. But in a recent post, they said new orders can expect delivery in March or April.
Check out Dirtbox Canopy Camper. Fairly new to this exploding market, but checked almost every box for me. Lots of company history and modular options. Mine installs next week on my 2nd gen Tundra. It helped me to have the 'must have' boxes and 'things I am willing to compromise on' boxes as I worked through the decision making process. Good luck! Looking forward to see what you choose.
@@ZacStew I am enjoying it. Minor problems and tweaking as with many newer campers, but overall the camper box and the staff at Dirtbox have been excellent. Mine weighs in about 450 so have been dialing in suspension and adding a minor buildout to make it 'home' when on the road. They're adding updates and accessories all the time. It's a solid product, enjoying it so far!
Gfc is the one I've been looking at except there isn't material on the roof so any condensation drips down towards the hinges and gets the bed wet. Price point seems high on most of these builds too lone peak has done a good job so far but they will have some kinks to figure out since they r bran new. Can't wait to see what u go with and how u like it
I put on down Payment on the Loan Peak since it was a great deal but as I looking into it more I realized it wouldn't be enough space with the tapered top and limited sleeping platform length. I'm 6'5". It was adjustable but only by losing standing room space on the other side. With having three kids I felt that the Harker EDC was my best option since it offers the longest bed platform of any wedge camper I have seen as well as wider then most. The anex extends over the 5 foot bed of my truck which would make my lower level bed area another sleeping space for kids. it was not nearly as cheap as the loan peak but better then most of the rest of the options available.
If I was always camping solo I’d go gfc but the bed is way too small. No space in the rear to pass down in the night, way less usable space with the wedge. I went Ovrlnd. However, I also think the gfc is a better option for wheeling.
I would take the lone peak on value for money personally but im waiting for the Addax which is specifically made for the gladiator. It also has a lot more utilities available then others. It wont be out until early next year but i would definitely check it out if i were you. Especially with your needs and wants
I scoured the Addax website for details, and there are next to none. But the idea of a removable RTT that you can still access from the bed and stand is a great idea. I'm worried it's going to be incredibly heavy. I also wonder how they're starting at $4,750 base price.
@@Berserkeroffroad the base price is for just the camper which has the retractable roof then the tent will be an add on. It was just recently announced so there's not a lot of info. But I like you use my truck for everyday things and hauling so that retractable topper is a game change so I figured I would wait and see what happens before pulling the trigger on lone peaks. I also have a diesel one 3.5 in heavy duty springs so weight and hauling isn't as big an issue for me. I'm on 38s and still get 23mpg
Can't stand up in it but I personally prefer the Moonlander. But if I were going for a pop-top I'd go with Oru Designs. They have a hard side topper integrated with fabric corners. They also do a wedge camper that's very affordable. I followed the Go Fast forum for awhile. They think the platform is fantastic but they aren't so thrilled with the tent. Both condensation issues and issues with opening the side doors from inside. They say if they can afford it they'd go with the Super Pacific. Everyone feels quality wise they're tops. Have you looked at Anti-Shanty? They have both a hardside rtt and a pop-top that's hard sided called the Dwell Shell. If security is a concern they're an option. Another thing I see people complain about both rtt's and wedge pop-tops is the wind noise in high winds. Something to consider. That's a good reason to look at the Oru Designs Bruin. Good luck!
Thanks for this comment, added them to my list. My question is, could I sit and work at a desk inside the unit in emergencies, and can it fit on a Cybertruck?
Would love something like the moonlander but it is too high to fit in any garage would love a more lower profile one if that’s doable and I know they offer more narrow sides I’m only 5,7.
Thanks for taking the time to comment. I added Moonlander, Oru Designs, and Anti-Shanty to the spreadsheet. The Anti-Shanty is an interesting approach with the hard sides, but I don't see how those won't drip snow and rain into the bed when they're collapsing. Also, 380lbs is heavy! The Moonlander is an interesting approach, and the internal space reminds me of what you'd get in a small teardrop camper. Not a bad way to do things, but I'd prefer the ability to stand. One thing that is attractive about the Moonlander is the starting weight is the lightest of all the campers I've now looked at.
@@Berserkeroffroad I'm looking at a Moonlander with a F-150 longbed. Put an easy chair in it too. I like the pop-tops with the wedge shape. Gives a cathedral ceiling feeling. But that Moonlander sleeping sideways with the 7' width makes it for me like the ultimate small trailer without the towing hassles.
I’m on a similar journey with my 21 gladiator, currently running a rooftop tent on a Yakama bedrack. An out of the box option I’m considering, beyond those you’ve explored, is a Moonlander topper. Curious if you considered it? ✌🏼❤️😊
Dang, almost 400 lbs! If it were lighter, I'd consider it. I do like that it has a different approach with the wider box and T-track galore. Thanks for the idea!
Welcome! I have the MSR Hubba Hubba NX. It's a fantastic tent. The poles are designed to flex and give and flex in wind and snow, and the fly goes to the ground around the vestibules. Those features make it an excellent tent for blustery weather. It also packs decently small. It's a 2p, but for me, it is a 1p and room for my gear.
Great video. I did so much research on this topic. Plus I have a friends that have the Super Pacific, alu-cab and GoFast which was helpful for comparison. I went with the Topo Topper - I am a huge fan of their build and quality is top notch. Either one you get will have issues and minor difference. I found with wedge style truck campers you get basically a very similar experience with which ever one you go with. Its mostly all about what you want to do yourself for the build out... so I went with a cheaper option. Also a huge selling point was if something broke was it a custom made and unique to that brand? Would I have to go to that same company to get it fixed or could I just go to the hardware store and DIY it. Some cons (mostly minor) to the Topo where you can tell they cut some cost to keep them affordable. 2 keys. Side hatch and rear hatch keys are not the same (side hatches are actually done by another company I believe) Cant open the side hatches from the inside..or at least I cant figure out how to. Small side windows in pop up tent. Side windows also don't have a zipper to open the screen just the initial tent canvas.
Great video. I'm interested in seeing what options will be available for the upcoming Cybertruck. One video that turned me on to the potnetion of a truck bed topper is this video (ua-cam.com/video/gwNJyhAWXD8/v-deo.html&lc=UgwZ_52CG4ufnuYfPZB4AaABAg), which is a Korean dude with a Ford Ranger and an Overland camper topper (from his video). He has everything inside: a work space inside the truck to sit at a desk, super important for me (I get that not being able to work as needed is a show stopper, same here as a business owner). He has a padded seat and enough headroom once he opens the top doors, and lots of storage. He has a bunch of external stuff that I wouldn't bother with, but damn the guy is living his best life.
Dang, 12 minutes into the video and he's still setting up camp! His setup is antithetical to what I'm going for, but I do appreciate his "catalog" style of video that showcases so many different products. Regarding your Cybertruck build, I imagine you'll have to Tweet Elon to get something made for that. Or look to a small shop to do a one-off.
@@BerserkeroffroadYes, I would never go crazy like him, but I do love his setup. I'd love to know what his truck unit is based on. It looks like it could survive WWIII.
Your feedback and alternative wedge camper ideas have been phenomenal. Thank you! I'll continue updating the spreadsheet with new options as you recommend them.
The Lone Peak does have a side ladder for the tent as an accessory. They are also one of the few who designed the bed in the tent to lift up into the overhead in order to maximize room in the bed of the truck when not in use.
Yeah Lone Peak is my choice. I also like the pop out section above the tailgate area. That with the bed pushed up for storage = a metric ton of cubic space inside. I'm getting one next year and putting in benches and table in the bed.
Dirtbox Overland just released a camper. Should definitely check it out.
I've been mulling the same issues for over a year. But my rig is also my daily driver. The conclusion I have come to is a bed cap that would allow a roof top tent when I need it. Of course you sacrifice the stand inside feature. I really want to keep the weight down.- It's a really a tough choice. I wish they would build the campers with a removable roof top tent. Great discussion.
Good stuff. I also have been researching these for some time. I have a Gladiator also. See how many you can see in real life. Things I have found are the GFC and sone others have the screen on the inside. This means you have to expose the inside to bugs while you open the windows to roll them up. The camp king has a very short bed. Most units do not have much room to get up and down while others are in the bed sleeping. For these reasons and some of the ones you spoke of, my choice is the Lone Peak. The bed just lifts up. This gives you a big shelf with the bed up. When it is down, you still have 30 inches of room to move around and get up and down. The tent design also give you more elbow room. It has the vents like the Supper Pacific. Lots of t-rails inside and out for mounting. Really good truck mounts if you have rails or not. If you are tall, you will really like the longer bed platform in the Loan Peak. Also check out Overland Vesical Systems. They just came out with one. Another one out of Vegas, Dirt Box I think.
I am looking for a camper and have been leaning towards the Project M and the M1 but the price has been holding me back. In the end I decided to go with the Lone Peak as the price point and build quality fill my needs for both hunting and camping. Great Video!
Brandon, The Lone Peak also has a side ladder access option for $200 and you do not have to add the side tent doors for an extra $525 like you do with the GFC, you just add the ladder with Lone Peak. I went to the GFC site and configured a Platform Camper for my Gladiator here are the specs; Rear window only, Side tent doors, (not sure if this option includes the ladder). Delivery and install location Belgrade, MT the cheapest install/delivery location they offer. Total $8600.00 My Lone Peak specs; Juicebox & Interior Lighting, 240w (set of 2) Ultralight Solar Panels, Roof Vent Fan, Grab Handles - Set of 2, External Side Ladder, Low Load Bars, Passenger Side Vent. Free installation in Wenatchee, WA. Total $8820.00. I think the Loan Peak is worth another look for you. Also, I like the bed set up on the Loan Peak. It is on gas struts and the whole bed can be pushed up and out of the way. The GFC bed is made of flat panels that you have to move and stack.
The Pack Out Camper is another one to consider. They have some cool accessories that are pretty unique. I’m looking forward the follow up on the camper you chose. Great video, thanks!
I like my GFC on my Gladiator but I had some leaking issues but I believe this issue has been resolved by them already. The only thing I wish the gfc had was a bed that raised up on struts instead of being panels to move around. If you want to see what it looks like on a gladiator check out some of my videos. Good luck!
Thanks, I'll check out your videos. One recurring complaint I'm hearing on the GFC is that the mattress is firm. That's the trade-off to keep the top so slim, I suppose.
Picked up my GFC about 2 months ago! Good news! They upgraded the mattress … it’s MUCH better than previous. Better padding etc.
Did they fix the leakage issue in the mattress area? I have read a couple reviews that said that continues to be an issue with GFC@@mattjohnson7660
Really like the spreadsheet to quantify the decision.
Thank you. The best part is, after releasing this video, people have told me about three other brands already.
I am really happy with my topo topper mesa . Harker outdoors makes a great one for the jeep truck
Great video as im in the same market....Super Pacific is hands down the best wedge camper bit way too pricey for what it is. Im stuck on the Project M or Lone Peak. I was accepted as an embassador so i may pull the trigger. GFC is not the one for me at all especially in colder weather. Oh and Lone Peak has a ladder option and would be better!
Thank you, and congratulations on the ambassador gig. After so many years in a ground tent, I'm used to finding ways to stay warm. I do miss my Freespirit Recreation RTT, though. I'll look closer at the LP ladder option, thanks!
Thanks for doing all this work for me, lol! I’ve been looking at the GFC as well. Great setup from what I’ve seen. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
GFC seems to really have found the sweetspot with usability, price, weight, and quality.
Brandon, love that you are 'diving deep' into the off-grid scene. The the shots of the June Colorado trip were especially cool to see. I might travel a bit heavy compared to what you are planning. I will say that being able to step down from the bed into a sheltered area at night or in inclimate weather is a very nice touch. When I looked at this vs. my Rooftop tent set-up, I just felt like I would lose too much storage space by having to leave the bulk of the area under the tent open for people to be able to move around in. Really looking forward to hearing your experience especially as to explore working remotely using the Starlink system.
I'm strongly considering the Lonepeak camper for my Colorado ZR2 5' bed. I think it is the best value and a very sleek low profile design. I'm tall and I appreciate that with the full 80" length bed deployed there is still 32" of passthrough room to stand up in the bed, this is accomplished by having a much longer front overhang than the other options. The bed is also on struts so you can push it out of the way and have really great headroom in the entire 5' bed, plus the rear end of the tent pops out for even more interior volume. I also like that the side doors are full length and a nice flat panel design. It seems pretty middle of the road weight wise, I think I would go light on the options and focus on my "build out" being as light as possible. There are some really great videos out there on lightweight building practices for trailers and vans using DIY composites (Foam board and other materials) that save a ton of weight compared to typical plywood construction.
Ordered my ZR2 and LonePeak a few weeks ago. Waiting for both now!
@@SteveIllman that will be an awesome combo!
nice chat! all in one, clear!
Thank you! I removed about a minute of "ums" and stuttering in the edit, which sped things along.
Good work on the comparison. While your tentative selection is not what I would have done, we all have different perspectives and needs which drive the ultimate decision. I've got a Super Pacific which I wouldn't trade for any of the others. Many reasons for me - door designs, single latches, construction quality, built in wire chases, t-slots and rivnuts all over.. Someone else mentioned it, but the protected vents up top are HUGE at preventing condensation issues. I just added the insulation package to it and it's super comfortable now in winter conditions also. Good luck and wish you the best with whatever you end up with.
Pack out campers are pretty cool!
I'll look into them. Thanks!
Great spreadsheet! I'm personally leaning towards Oru Designs Bruin Adventurer. Alu-Cab is from South Africa.
Thanks! I've been checking out other brands and updating the spreadsheet based on feedback and comments on the video. What do you like about the Bruin?
And thanks for the Alu-Cab correction. I can't add text to the video but I added it to the video description.
@@Berserkeroffroad No problem! I'm looking for something to full time in, so having a pop up hard side is the main reason. I wanted something with a lower clearance too, so not too interested in a full truck camper slide in. Anti-shanty is another i've been looking into, but base price + addons add up fast lol
I've only had my GFC for a couple months and I love it. BIG THING you need to realize with GFC (altho this kinda goes for all of them), is you need to set your expectations. This is NOT an Alu-cab, or any other $13k - $18k + camper. There are draw backs so make sure to research those. Big ones I've seen around are the tent windows and how they zip down with the screens on the inside, as well as lack of elevated ventilation in the tent. There are vent windows but there isn't a mechanism to keep snow or water/rain out when they are open so you have to get a bit creative IF you have condensation issues (I haven't so far). So long as you understand you're getting into an eco-system designed to be bare bones for YOU to mod you should have a good experience. Also ... water SHOULD NOT come into the tent area, they should have these all fixed now (they had an issue with some earlier builds they invested a LOT into R&D to fix). However, water DOES come into the bed area. Its up to you to seal the bed before install, and even then you may get some slight intrusion in heavy rainfall. This is with every topper tho for the most part. Sealing corners and bed caps will eliminate this.
Also a quick note on the "quality issues" of GFC's. This lightweight wedge camper market is pretty new still and GFC has between 6500 - 7000 campers ON THE ROAD. Therefore you are naturally GOING to hear the quality issues from the largest market share holder. However this doesn't point to poor quality. It points to a larger market share holder having more campers out there and more complaints based on the fact they have the most campers out there. Its easy to get the idea that GFC is a low quality option because theres a bunch of negative reviews. The question is what is the ratio of negative experiences to positive. Most positive experiences aren't in the forums or on UA-cam, they're out using the camper. The GREAT thing GFC has is (and most would acknowledge this) the BEST customer service in this entire market.
Just my 2 cents! All of the options in this vid you can't lose with! you just have to make sure you have the right expetations for experience going into whichver one you purchase!
Dude, thanks for taking the time to share all of that. GFC's minimalist approach is highly attractive to me, and I'm fine getting creative with ventilation. As far as a wedge camper goes, my #1 priority is to keep the weight down. While other creature comforts would absolutely be appreciated, I can't overlook the fact that I'll be off-road with the thing and part of the experience with the camper will be dealing with the weight of it on the truck (and with the remaining payload). Sure, I can get more comfortable for when I'm sleeping, but then I'd be sacrificing handling and reliability. It's a balance for sure. Another complaint I've heard about the GFC is the 2" mattress is quite firm, but again, that can be remedied. What's your rig and how does it handle on trails with the camper?
I'm coming from a 2016 4Runner with a 150lb iKamper on the top. My GFC is on a 2011 crew cab short bed Tacoma. MUCH lower to the ground compared to my 4runner haha so it feels perfectly fine on trails and I've seen some people get REAL tippy with GFC's on their rig's and they hold up fine! ... I have a 2-3" lift on 33" tires for reference. Dude I can't 100% confirm but shoot GFC a call. My GFC came with their "turbo nap" upgraded mattress STANDARD. They JUST swapped out the mattresses they use in their campers before my build I believe. I personally really love it! I'm a side / stomache sleeper and I sleep fine with minimal side pain in the morning. Give em a call but the 2" mattress you're referring to I believe is gone and has been upgraded to an amazingly better mattress standard with the GFC@@Berserkeroffroad
The tune m1 camper seems to be the best bang for your buck
Great video I love the spread sheet. I don't know where you found the info on increased vehicle height for all the campers but I am super grateful for that. Height and weight are two big factors for me as well.
I was leaning heavily into the gfc also, but really dislike the aesthetics on the outside with the non black metal on the corners.
I'm considering getting a Topo Topper Mesa to step it up from the hiking gear as well.
Thank you. I scoured manufacturer websites for dimensions. Some give the closed height above the bed, which I subtracted the 23" of the height of the Gladiator hardtop from to get the final "height above the top" value.
Nice comparison. I'm in planning stages as well. Looking to remote work on the road. I hope lone peak stays inexpensive. I don't think anyone actually has one yet.
They do an excellent job with production updates on their UA-cam channel. They started delivering a few months ago, and they're ramping up production. But in a recent post, they said new orders can expect delivery in March or April.
Check out Dirtbox Canopy Camper. Fairly new to this exploding market, but checked almost every box for me. Lots of company history and modular options. Mine installs next week on my 2nd gen Tundra. It helped me to have the 'must have' boxes and 'things I am willing to compromise on' boxes as I worked through the decision making process. Good luck! Looking forward to see what you choose.
How's the Dirtbox been treating you, also been looking into it.
@@ZacStew I am enjoying it. Minor problems and tweaking as with many newer campers, but overall the camper box and the staff at Dirtbox have been excellent. Mine weighs in about 450 so have been dialing in suspension and adding a minor buildout to make it 'home' when on the road. They're adding updates and accessories all the time. It's a solid product, enjoying it so far!
Gfc is the one I've been looking at except there isn't material on the roof so any condensation drips down towards the hinges and gets the bed wet. Price point seems high on most of these builds too lone peak has done a good job so far but they will have some kinks to figure out since they r bran new. Can't wait to see what u go with and how u like it
Thats for sharing your research.
I put on down Payment on the Loan Peak since it was a great deal but as I looking into it more I realized it wouldn't be enough space with the tapered top and limited sleeping platform length. I'm 6'5". It was adjustable but only by losing standing room space on the other side. With having three kids I felt that the Harker EDC was my best option since it offers the longest bed platform of any wedge camper I have seen as well as wider then most. The anex extends over the 5 foot bed of my truck which would make my lower level bed area another sleeping space for kids. it was not nearly as cheap as the loan peak but better then most of the rest of the options available.
You could build one to test out for a year, wood and basic windows or whatever you want tons of videos to make one
Great video man, would love to see an updated video with the recommended campers in the comments at some time.
If I was always camping solo I’d go gfc but the bed is way too small. No space in the rear to pass down in the night, way less usable space with the wedge. I went Ovrlnd. However, I also think the gfc is a better option for wheeling.
I would take the lone peak on value for money personally but im waiting for the Addax which is specifically made for the gladiator. It also has a lot more utilities available then others. It wont be out until early next year but i would definitely check it out if i were you. Especially with your needs and wants
I scoured the Addax website for details, and there are next to none. But the idea of a removable RTT that you can still access from the bed and stand is a great idea. I'm worried it's going to be incredibly heavy. I also wonder how they're starting at $4,750 base price.
@@Berserkeroffroad the base price is for just the camper which has the retractable roof then the tent will be an add on. It was just recently announced so there's not a lot of info. But I like you use my truck for everyday things and hauling so that retractable topper is a game change so I figured I would wait and see what happens before pulling the trigger on lone peaks. I also have a diesel one 3.5 in heavy duty springs so weight and hauling isn't as big an issue for me. I'm on 38s and still get 23mpg
Can't stand up in it but I personally prefer the Moonlander. But if I were going for a pop-top I'd go with Oru Designs. They have a hard side topper integrated with fabric corners. They also do a wedge camper that's very affordable.
I followed the Go Fast forum for awhile. They think the platform is fantastic but they aren't so thrilled with the tent. Both condensation issues and issues with opening the side doors from inside. They say if they can afford it they'd go with the Super Pacific. Everyone feels quality wise they're tops.
Have you looked at Anti-Shanty? They have both a hardside rtt and a pop-top that's hard sided called the Dwell Shell. If security is a concern they're an option. Another thing I see people complain about both rtt's and wedge pop-tops is the wind noise in high winds. Something to consider. That's a good reason to look at the Oru Designs Bruin. Good luck!
Thanks for this comment, added them to my list. My question is, could I sit and work at a desk inside the unit in emergencies, and can it fit on a Cybertruck?
Would love something like the moonlander but it is too high to fit in any garage would love a more lower profile one if that’s doable and I know they offer more narrow sides I’m only 5,7.
Thanks for taking the time to comment. I added Moonlander, Oru Designs, and Anti-Shanty to the spreadsheet. The Anti-Shanty is an interesting approach with the hard sides, but I don't see how those won't drip snow and rain into the bed when they're collapsing. Also, 380lbs is heavy! The Moonlander is an interesting approach, and the internal space reminds me of what you'd get in a small teardrop camper. Not a bad way to do things, but I'd prefer the ability to stand. One thing that is attractive about the Moonlander is the starting weight is the lightest of all the campers I've now looked at.
@@Berserkeroffroad I'm looking at a Moonlander with a F-150 longbed. Put an easy chair in it too. I like the pop-tops with the wedge shape. Gives a cathedral ceiling feeling. But that Moonlander sleeping sideways with the 7' width makes it for me like the ultimate small trailer without the towing hassles.
I’m on a similar journey with my 21 gladiator, currently running a rooftop tent on a Yakama bedrack. An out of the box option I’m considering, beyond those you’ve explored, is a Moonlander topper. Curious if you considered it?
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Since I posted this video yesterday, people have told me about five other wedge campers to look into. I'll add Moonlander to the list!
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Dang, almost 400 lbs! If it were lighter, I'd consider it. I do like that it has a different approach with the wider box and T-track galore. Thanks for the idea!
I think it's been mentioned....DirtBox Overland
Harker Outdoors makes a camper that would work for you and they are having a special now, $2000 off.
Just found your channel and like it. What backpacking tent do you use? Thanks
Welcome! I have the MSR Hubba Hubba NX. It's a fantastic tent. The poles are designed to flex and give and flex in wind and snow, and the fly goes to the ground around the vestibules. Those features make it an excellent tent for blustery weather. It also packs decently small. It's a 2p, but for me, it is a 1p and room for my gear.
Great video. I did so much research on this topic. Plus I have a friends that have the Super Pacific, alu-cab and GoFast which was helpful for comparison. I went with the Topo Topper - I am a huge fan of their build and quality is top notch.
Either one you get will have issues and minor difference. I found with wedge style truck campers you get basically a very similar experience with which ever one you go with. Its mostly all about what you want to do yourself for the build out... so I went with a cheaper option.
Also a huge selling point was if something broke was it a custom made and unique to that brand? Would I have to go to that same company to get it fixed or could I just go to the hardware store and DIY it.
Some cons (mostly minor) to the Topo where you can tell they cut some cost to keep them affordable. 2 keys. Side hatch and rear hatch keys are not the same (side hatches are actually done by another company I believe) Cant open the side hatches from the inside..or at least I cant figure out how to. Small side windows in pop up tent. Side windows also don't have a zipper to open the screen just the initial tent canvas.
What did you end up going with?
Good info!
Four Wheel Campers Project M hands down…
I'll add it to the spreadsheet, but it's too tall and heavy for what I need.
No dirtbox overland?
How is Dirtbox not in this list??
Great video. I'm interested in seeing what options will be available for the upcoming Cybertruck. One video that turned me on to the potnetion of a truck bed topper is this video (ua-cam.com/video/gwNJyhAWXD8/v-deo.html&lc=UgwZ_52CG4ufnuYfPZB4AaABAg), which is a Korean dude with a Ford Ranger and an Overland camper topper (from his video). He has everything inside: a work space inside the truck to sit at a desk, super important for me (I get that not being able to work as needed is a show stopper, same here as a business owner). He has a padded seat and enough headroom once he opens the top doors, and lots of storage. He has a bunch of external stuff that I wouldn't bother with, but damn the guy is living his best life.
Dang, 12 minutes into the video and he's still setting up camp! His setup is antithetical to what I'm going for, but I do appreciate his "catalog" style of video that showcases so many different products. Regarding your Cybertruck build, I imagine you'll have to Tweet Elon to get something made for that. Or look to a small shop to do a one-off.
@@BerserkeroffroadYes, I would never go crazy like him, but I do love his setup. I'd love to know what his truck unit is based on. It looks like it could survive WWIII.
alu-cab is south african.
Look at Harker Outdoors campers.
Thanks, I'll check them out!
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