Yep. Agreed. I’m not usually a fan of deflating boats to get them unstuck, but this is a perfect example of a situation where it’s a worthwhile strategy. The boat wants to move downstream, but it’s simply too wide. Deflating the tube made the boat just soft enough that it squeezed thru! Well done!
Nicely done. Something I often do when getting stuck in a safe spot is take a break and drink some water first. Kind of a ritual for me. Helps me just get grounded and suss out the situation. Go Slow to Go Fast.
That’s a great video about how professionals respond to problem solving. Y’all demonstrate a calm, rational approach to obstacles. I certainly appreciate you not wanting to take chances when you can do it a better way. Tired of “Shaka Bros” yelling to send it, when there’s plenty of fun to be had, and the sense of accomplishment when things works out smoothly and safely. Thanks!
Great video. I have always wanted to do the middle chute, I absolutely hate the fish ladder. I like having the oars shipped forward as it is easier to get a back on them after the drop or the squeeze you are going through. I do feel it is safer for the passengers and rower to have them shipped backwards. I shipped my oars forward in the bottom drop of the fish ladder and one caught a rock and shoved the handle straight through both sides of my shorts under my thigh. it could have been really bad, I got incredibly lucky. Also my dad one time shipped his oars forward on slim pickens, one caught a rock and was shoved into is ribcage. luckily he had his life jacket on and if was a old style jacket with lots of coverage, he got away with a couple bruised ribs.
Great video and talking through what is going on and what your thinking. I ran this same line in 2021 in a 10’ Hyside at the same flow and experienced all you said. I remember seeing a yellow boat do exactly what you and Emily do and I’m pretty sure I’m one of the folks watching from the bank as you exit. :)
Made it look easy, Emily. We did the Rogue last year and went down the fish ladder. Getting set up for the mid line looked complicated and slightly risky, but at this flow it doesn’t look too bad.
Try pushing into the entry, going faster than the flow. If you have the line clearly set up you’ll slide right passed all the scratching around. It’s tricky to get turned to get your bow headed down the chute and you’ll very possibly run the front of boat up on big rock at the to right in entry. After doing that by accident several times I determined that it’s a feature, not a bug. Just push the *stern* down the chute. Note that the more enthusiastic you are about putting your bow up on the rock, the easier it is to get the stern around. You’ll go careening down the chute, stern first, with your oars safely inboard. Caveats: It’s best to learn the line riding with someone else who’s got it wired already. This approach works really well at high flows, too, but you should know where you’re going lest you wander over the main falls, sideways. I rowed 16’ to 18’ boats set up either for passengers in front, or as a kayak school support boat. In either case the bow was VERY light when taking the boat through the chute alone; that might have helped me come to peace with this approach.
I've seen a few videos of folks flipping after mid chute, as boat joins main current and gets tube suck flipped out of the eddy at the bottom. Is that only a higher water issue, or low water too? Looks possible.
Question from a very new rafter who has only done one low water trip; why not run your air lower to begin with? Your big 18' slips through the chute immediately after letting a little air out, are you running fairly tight for more buoyancy, or are you already running loose and therefore my question is ridiculous? Just wondering and wanting clarification. 😁
I've never run the Rogue but when I've watched videos of it, it always seems like a crap shoot whether or not you're going to get through it ok. I'm a huge fan of not getting the crap kicked out of me so I'd be running that fish ladder chute off on the right.
That slight deflation was brilliant! Nicely done, and thank you for filming this.
Yep. Agreed. I’m not usually a fan of deflating boats to get them unstuck, but this is a perfect example of a situation where it’s a worthwhile strategy. The boat wants to move downstream, but it’s simply too wide. Deflating the tube made the boat just soft enough that it squeezed thru! Well done!
@@waterboy883 the threat of water in your tubes is unique to each situation for sure!!
Excellent. Thanks for taking the time to film it. W
very professional, great idea of really air down
Nicely done. Something I often do when getting stuck in a safe spot is take a break and drink some water first. Kind of a ritual for me. Helps me just get grounded and suss out the situation. Go Slow to Go Fast.
Yep taking a second to chill when you get stuck is a great idea
That’s a great video about how professionals respond to problem solving. Y’all demonstrate a calm, rational approach to obstacles. I certainly appreciate you not wanting to take chances when you can do it a better way. Tired of “Shaka Bros” yelling to send it, when there’s plenty of fun to be had, and the sense of accomplishment when things works out smoothly and safely. Thanks!
I think we’re all tired of Shaka Bros
Thank you for this. I pulled a permit for this summer. I'm so excited!
Awesome. Have fun!
Love this video. I used to run the middle chute with with my dad as a tween. Good times, even when stuck
Great job. Letting the air out sure did the trick.
Great video. I have always wanted to do the middle chute, I absolutely hate the fish ladder. I like having the oars shipped forward as it is easier to get a back on them after the drop or the squeeze you are going through. I do feel it is safer for the passengers and rower to have them shipped backwards. I shipped my oars forward in the bottom drop of the fish ladder and one caught a rock and shoved the handle straight through both sides of my shorts under my thigh. it could have been really bad, I got incredibly lucky. Also my dad one time shipped his oars forward on slim pickens, one caught a rock and was shoved into is ribcage. luckily he had his life jacket on and if was a old style jacket with lots of coverage, he got away with a couple bruised ribs.
Great video and talking through what is going on and what your thinking. I ran this same line in 2021 in a 10’ Hyside at the same flow and experienced all you said. I remember seeing a yellow boat do exactly what you and Emily do and I’m pretty sure I’m one of the folks watching from the bank as you exit. :)
Awesome!
Keep doing what ya do
Never knew about the mid chute until this video. It would have been a nice option to run this in my 2 man kayak instead of portaging.
Made it look easy, Emily. We did the Rogue last year and went down the fish ladder. Getting set up for the mid line looked complicated and slightly risky, but at this flow it doesn’t look too bad.
Very cool! Thanks for sharing.
Try pushing into the entry, going faster than the flow. If you have the line clearly set up you’ll slide right passed all the scratching around. It’s tricky to get turned to get your bow headed down the chute and you’ll very possibly run the front of boat up on big rock at the to right in entry. After doing that by accident several times I determined that it’s a feature, not a bug. Just push the *stern* down the chute. Note that the more enthusiastic you are about putting your bow up on the rock, the easier it is to get the stern around. You’ll go careening down the chute, stern first, with your oars safely inboard.
Caveats: It’s best to learn the line riding with someone else who’s got it wired already. This approach works really well at high flows, too, but you should know where you’re going lest you wander over the main falls, sideways. I rowed 16’ to 18’ boats set up either for passengers in front, or as a kayak school support boat. In either case the bow was VERY light when taking the boat through the chute alone; that might have helped me come to peace with this approach.
I've seen a few videos of folks flipping after mid chute, as boat joins main current and gets tube suck flipped out of the eddy at the bottom.
Is that only a higher water issue, or low water too? Looks possible.
Question from a very new rafter who has only done one low water trip; why not run your air lower to begin with? Your big 18' slips through the chute immediately after letting a little air out, are you running fairly tight for more buoyancy, or are you already running loose and therefore my question is ridiculous? Just wondering and wanting clarification. 😁
You can start deflated if you want. I choose to start at a "normal" level where the boat performs best and then drop it along the way if I need to.
Awesome!
Do you recommend entering from right, above fish ladder in higher flows?
I’m confused about what you’re asking
I think you can enter the middle chute from river right thereby not entering above Rainey. This might be a good idea at higher flows.
I've never run the Rogue but when I've watched videos of it, it always seems like a crap shoot whether or not you're going to get through it ok. I'm a huge fan of not getting the crap kicked out of me so I'd be running that fish ladder chute off on the right.
Good call
I want buy your pfd plam😍
If you bridge an actual gear boat in the second drop have fun unloading
What level of inflation were you running originally?
A normal level