Part 3: How to install water on your 5-acre farm.
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- Опубліковано 10 кві 2023
- Part 3: How to install water on your 5-acre farm. Water placement on your grazing operation is critical to your success. Animals that have daily access to quality water will perform much better. In this video Greg shows you an economical method to placing water right where you need it. If you want to keep your farm profitable every year, check out my 3 grazing books that I wrote on our website: greenpasturesfarm.net/books/
This series is a continuation of a video you did on a 20 acre farm a few years ago. I hope some people are paying attention. If these steps are followed, you will be on your way to success. Very informative video Greg. Thank you and have a wonderful day.
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Greg this couldn't have come at a better time. I just put a deposit down on 2 Katadin ewes. I'm on just under 6 acres, and looking to fix my old barb perimeter fence. Then run polybraid in 3 paddocks for my chickens and the sheep.
Greg, love this series. Hoping to use these ideas for rotational grazing horses.
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This discussion is really helpful. I'm in central Illinois with a frostline of 36 inches. So the water line needs to be at 42 inches. Central Missouri has a frostline of 30-36 inches. The quick couplers may do the trick here, a hydrant is almost a necessity further north.
How is it on the 100 days a year when its raining or snowing and you have to lay down in the mud or wet grass to reach into the pipe? A hydrant and longer hose makes more sense to me. You have a 6 to one ratio of cost between the quick coupler and the hydrant. Maybe spend the money to put in fewer hydrants and just use a longer hose for the water tank?
good tips!
Love the series! Thank you.
I really appreciate all your videos. We don’t have access to “city” water or electricity on our farm. I hope you can give us ideas for water and solar chargers sometime. We only have cattle. Thank you!
Excellent video - Thanks!
I love this idea because not only will it make it easier to get water to troughs across the pasture, but I do controlled burns in silvo pasture every two or three years and this will allow me to have pressurized water to hook a hose to for controlling my fire.
Greg, your a great Teacher
Hi Greg! I think it's a good idea to mention the HDPE tubing should be rated at 200 PSI. I unknowingly made the mistake of installing 60 PSI tubing with subpar performance. The 200 PSI costs around $250 plus shipping for 500' Thanks again for all the information. It has helped me tremendously. The 6 heifers and bull I purchased are all doing fantastic. The 5th calf just dropped with #6 due any day. Many blessings!! Doc 😃
Glad things are going well with your livestock. I only use Powerflex 200 psi pipe, I mentioned that in the video I believe. The Philmac fittings do not tighten down well on the Lowe’s 160 psi pipe either.
Unfortunatley it costs $800 to ship $1500 worth of hdpe pipe to my location. I need to find a more local supplier.
Good video, I've learned more.
Great video 😎
Appreciate your information! One-time visit to install correctly the first time. Thanks.
Love the stand off idea.
This information is so valuable. Thank you for sharing your expertise.
Thanks Greg, really enjoying these step-by-step videos. Just ordered your second book and I am hoping this info is covered in it. We will be starting a homestead within the next coupe of years and I want to have as much knowledge as possible under my belt so I don't go in with the mindset that everything will be sunshine and rainbows. You have helped me so much! Can't wait to dig into your book!! Thank you, thank you, thank you!! 👍👍
Good luck to you in your future grazing endeavors!
Greg this is just the most valuable content on UA-cam!!! Wow! Thank you thank you!
My wife wanted a milk cow, so I am tapped out and can’t get sheep on my 7.5 acres. 🤣
I was able to find all of the 3/4” pipe and fittings.
But I haven’t been able to find the middle fitting with the YELLOW CAP. And then also can’t find the MALE that clicks into the YELLOW cap.
You gotta make a deal with Powerflex, because if they gave you affiliate links they would sell SOOO MANY!! 😂😂
Thanks again!
Lots of company’s sell the Plasson couplers and male fitting
Thanks for the info about the Philmac & Plasson fittings and HDPE tubing should be rated at 200 PSI. 300'x726'= 5 acres
Thank you sir and God bless you and all the works of your hands and the dew of heaven continuously bless you and your animals in jesus christ name,amen.
Great info as always Greg.
Just did the exact setup on a 12 acre pasture with Philmac & Plasson fittings every 100'. I continued 1-1/4" HDPE trunk line off the same PVC size from existing well. CRAZY water pressure/volume. So much that it has me wondering if i need a waste gate valve before the tank to help when pressurizing the male quick coupler?
Looking forward to seeing the finish, and thank you for suggesting the 5/8 hydraulic hose. I can see how a regular garden hose would fail miserably.
Very helpful thanks! Can those parts be purchases in canada?
What kind of tub or waterer float etc..do you use? Thanks very informative videos
God bless
Also do you have a rain catching systems from the roofs ? 1500 sq foot of rain in one hour is a lot and can be diverted to tanks or ponds
Love this idea, but thinking that PEX might be wiser for the runs between the valves. I have clay that expands and shrinks with moisture and PEX is more forgiving. Thoughts?
Thank you so much for doing this - I have over 100 acres, but it is disjointed and much of it is heavily wooded or mountainous (or BOTH). Can you please do a short video covering the aspects you covered in the previous video parts and how that may change if you are running cattle? I particularly want 1 or 2 dairy cows. And we have a little more than 5 acres out front. We eventually wish to add up to 4 beef cattle as well. But we have pastures in different areas of our farm. How do we move them on our ATV trails? Do we have to make sure all acres are externally fenced before we do this? Or run portable electric around the trails to make a lane? I’ve seen you move with your 4-wheeler. We have 4-wheelers also, no trained LGDs, but an untrained Bullmastiff that MIGHT be able to do the job with some training and exposure.
LGD's aren't herding dogs; you'd be wise to have a couple of them if your animals are going to be out of sight of the house, but their purpose and instincts are for protection, not herding. I'm dubious that a Bullmastiff would work for either herding or to do the job of a livestock guardian dog. Good dogs, but different purpose and instincts. A good herding dog (if you are only going to have cattle, an Australian Shepherd or a Heeler) would be what you'd need. But for just a few cows, if you'll train them to come to a bucket of feed, and to follow it to a new pasture, that should work. Select tame critters that have been handled, if at all possible.
Greg do you have a list of the names of pipe, fitting &coupler. Where to buy as well
Great video Greg. So curious you said for 20 years you had a line on top of ground. At your supply point how did you tie into you water source since its above ground? Just hook to hydrant an leave hydrant on or what?? Thanks I enjoy listening
Yes, we hooked onto a hydrant and left it turned on while we were on that farm. When cattle were moved to next farm, we turned off the hydrant.
Another question????
How is the ticks and what do you do ?
Do you rotate chickens behind the cows ?
Greg, what would you suggest for people who are in colder climates and have to put their pipes 5 feet deep or more to be below the frost line?
I'm not Greg, but the only thing I can think of that will work would be frost-proof hydrants built for the local frost line. They'd cost more than what Greg is describing, but maybe you could space them farther apart and use a roll of garden hose to take water from the hydrant to your water tank. Keep the upper part of the hydrant out of your active paddock, so the animals don't rub and push on it.
Hi Greg, can you please leave some links or names of the exact piping we need for setting up water supply?
Thanks so much!
I will be doing videos on watering systems in the next couple weeks.
Greg, what would you do in Montana? You would have to go deep so how can you access the pipe?
What do you use to keep the water from freezing in your tank?
Greg. It would be helpful if you could put the names of these fittings in the description along with a source where we can purchase them.
If you watch the whole video, I did!
@@gregjudyregenerativerancher she means a link in within your written description.
I just had my offer accepted on a 16 acre farm! 6 acres are woods that we're not touching right away, and there are low wires on the old pastures I need to clear out. Looking for sheep, goats, alpaca, and maybe a pair of milking Dexters. (Fiber farming) Thanks for these videos, they really help me with planning the lower 2 pastures!
Hey Greg great info. I tried searching for power flex fits and I am having trouble finding the site to order these fittings. Did I get the name right?
I found it!! 👍
Can I find this anywhere as a list of links to the recommended products?
QUESTION: I’m assuming you could use the same system to run feeders to a watering system for the pasture. Have you ever done that or do you have any thoughts or suggestions along those lines? PS. For those looking for a source for these products, he tells you at the end of the video
Mr Judy works With nature. The grass and cattle and birds and worms and everybody else must thrive in the climate he's got. Also too much inputs, too much expense would lower his efficiençy. Also where would he get the water? Bleed the river or drain the aquifer? Sounds degenerative/extractive. I think i would rather build up the soil, and make the land more draught proof. Not much grazing land gets irrigated, it's a LOT of water. But still, if you had the pipes in the ground and the water and the pressure, it could help you in a bad year. The only time i've heard him mention it was when he said he doesn't. I might if i could
We never irrigate pasture, not economically feasible here in Missouri at all.
do you have links for the couplinks?
Thanks! If I’m hearing you correctly, you said the water will freeze but it won’t bust the line piping in your video. Our line needs to be 42 inches which is our frost line which is a ways down for a quick coupler. I’m trying to think what will be the best for us.
Same here upstate NY
Maybe make the male end longer. Make one long and stiff attachment and move it around with your tank.
Great Series a person can Scale this up, Thanks Greg!! Lots of Jems
That would be GEMS
I'm in the same boat as you. I keep trying to justify laying on the ground in the middle of winter in the rain to plug in the quick coupler thats at the end of my reach. Or worse...reaching the latch to unplug it when the cattle have made a mess of the ground around it. Not a huge deal in the summer, but 100 days a year laying in the water kind of sucks.
Some things you do to make life more enjoyable and bearable.
www.youtube.com/@RussWilson/videos
Russ Wilson in Wisconsin has a lot of good videos on winter watering solutions. He uses hydrants and then has modifications to the tank valves to keep them from freezing. This involves keeping a trickle flow going to keep the water from freezing. He spends a lot of time in a couple videos showing how he protects the hydrant from getting knocked over by the cows rubbing against it. This stuff is not easy.
What I don't understand is how you put the fence and water line right on top of each other. Seems like you run the risk of puncturing the water line with the t post. Also you'd be putting the t-post in loose dirt which would make it unstable. If you offset the water line from the t-post then you run the risk of the animals step/breaking your PVC riser. Would like to see a video of @Greg installing this so I can see how it's done. Off to search his channel history!!!
This was my question exactly
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Hey Greg, are you putting hydrants in the couplers? How are you tapping into this line to get access to the water?
Philmac polyethylene “T’s”
Hi, Greg. Thank you for this specific and clear how-to video. I'm trying to decide between 1 1/2 inch HDPE and 1 inch HDPE for my farm. It's 15 acres and I plan on putting the pipe right down the center of the long axis of my property. The longest distance from the water meter to the end of the run is 800 feet. I would love to run the 1" line as it is more economical, but will do the 1 1/2 if needed for proper performance. I can't find a flow rate chart. I know they are out there and have seen one before, but can't seem to locate it again. What do you advise? I'm in eastern Oklahoma so our installation depth is not too deep.
What is your water source? Pressure or gravity? How many gallons per minute do you have where you are starting at? Any hills to climb ?
@@gregjudyregenerativerancher Thank you for getting back to me, Greg. Pressure is at least 60 PSI. Flow rate at hydrant is 15 gpm. No hills to climb. The water actually goes downhill from where we'll tie into it.
@Coltrabagar you will be absolutely fine with a 1” water line then.
@@gregjudyregenerativerancher Excellent! Thanks so much, Greg.
Question: What are your thoughts on the post water? I know it would cost more to put in. Thank you.
Not sure what your talking about, Post Water???
@@gregjudyregenerativerancher it’s called the ultimate drinking post the animal comes up to it pushes it with there nose and makes it open up like a water fountain it fills up to get a drink and the water runs out after to not freeze in the winter. To me it cost a lot to install and cost on water dump after the animal gets a drink. But it makes it where you don’t have to be there to water them. Thanks again you your information on you set up.
Curious how you keep the sewer pipe covers from filling w dirt. The Christie boxes we’ve used here on our ranch for water valves always seem to be full of dirt whenever I go to open them to get to a shut off valve.
When we lay in the quick couplers down into the fresh dirt trench, I put a 5 gallon bucket of clean 1” rock on each side of the PVC stand pipe before backfilling with dirt. This prevents dirt from entering into the coupler.
@@gregjudyregenerativerancher perfect! Thank you
What would you suggest for mobile shade? I live in Arizona and haven’t discovered any good solutions.
Several folks have built shade mobiles on steel skids that you pull around from paddock to paddock. They work well for small herds.
Which thickness of the HDPE would you go with for 25 or so acres with water coming off a well? Power flex has a few different options. Pros and cons of thinner vs thicker pipe?
Are you asking about diameter of pipe or wall thickness of pipe?
For 500 feet of 3/4 in pipe on power flex they advertise $240 and the 1in is $400. I assume they’re talking about pipe diameter but I can’t find it on the description on their website. Just wondering which size between 3/4 or 1in you would suggest. I assume I wouldn’t need to go thicker than 1in.
Use the 3/4” diameter, that is plenty big for 25 acres
I have question. So if you lease, you have the water line above the ground, how to prevent the water to freeze in winter?
If you put it above ground, that farm is not grazeable in the freezing portion of the year.
Is the sewer pipe 6” or is 4” to cover the water outlet?
6”
If one moves sheep twice a week and rests a paddock for 60 days for parasite control, one needs 18 paddocks. If you want to separate your rams 8 months a year (recommended for cold zone hardiness regions) one needs another 12 paddocks (smaller ones).
Sheep are a good margin business. The Crop Budgets provided by University Agronomist exaggerate the revenue from a corn-bean rotation. I have spoken to Illinois farmers and showed them the crop Budgets for their area and the response is "huh, in their dreams." Further there is no Cost Accounting for the loss of soil to Erosion. Plow-boys loses an inch of great dirt every 13 years plowing and and inch every 65 years with No-Till methods. Either way this is not sustainable and we will eventually have Saudi Arabian quality soil in Iowa, Illinois and Indiana if we do not change our practices.
There have been improvements to Solar powered electric fence chargers over the years. Moving sheep on a silvopasture is the way to go. The trees will pull nutrition from deep in the soil and the decomposing leaves the Sheep hooves press into the good dirt will decompose creating more good organic rich water retaining dirt.
Rather than toilet flushing great dirt down the Mississippi, we should build our soil and export frozen mutton and beef and donkey. We need to reopen an Abattoir in the US and develop Genetically Modified Alpaca fiber bearing Sheep. Donkeys are effective coyote control and are supposed to be good eating. Alpaca fiber trades for eleven times the price of wool.
Farmers are being 1984 Brainwashed by Egg head University Agronomist that big expensive petroleum eating tractors, GMO seeds, synthetic fertilizer and lots of petroleum based transgender creating herbicides are the way to go. Go see the studies from the 1990s on scholar.google.com about how frogs in Iowa were hermaphroditing due to Atrazine. Atrazine is bundled in a number of common widely used commercial herbicides. This is barnyard litter and it smells worse than a field just spread with raw swine litter.
Buy Greg Judy Ranching books and attend one of their on site Grazing School days. Get the sleep out of your eyes and Sheep on your fields. Let your ancestors say, "It was great grandpa and Grandma Johnson that got us into Sheep ranching that save our great farm dirt back in the 21st century."
Greg Judy ranched for 23 years without buying any heavy industrial equipment. You really don't need that combine and tractor. More power, ugh ugh. No, more Sheep, cattle and donkeys; more animal power. More tree power to pull minerals from deep below the top soil.
The Federal government currently subsidized row crops like corn and soybeans to feed livestock to the tune of $5,500 per acre through the Crop Insurance program. The Federal government is writing a trillion dollars a year in hot checks. This is not sustainable.
$5,500 per farm, not per acre.
I just laid 300 feet of 1” regular ppe pipe as I didn’t know about the HDPE pipe. It is running to a frost free water tank. Will this be ok, or should I replace it with HDPE?
You should be fine, don’t replace it.
@@gregjudyregenerativerancher Thanks so much Mr. Judy. I’ve learned a lot by watching your videos. I really appreciate you sharing your knowledge.
Greg who do you buy your pipe and fittings from? What size do you recommend 3/4 or 1'' ?
3/4 “ pipe, pipe and fittings come from Powerflex Fence
@@gregjudyregenerativerancher Thank you !!
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Mr Greg you just make sense and that is why your systems work. You always go the affordable way but notice some times you say don’t buy this cheap one spend the money. Sometimes you get what you pay for. I am nearing retirement age and I want a small farm and cattle. I wanted to ask what do you think about Crossing South Pole with Low line Angus. They would be smaller and maybe the beef would be better. My Wife and me tried grass fed and we only did twice and both times it didn’t taste right. Could have been the brand.
You got my families vote for sure and Trump. You have had it every time you have ran. Drain the Swamp Mr Trump. You are our only hope at this point.
Saturday - *Watches @gregjudyregenerativerancher video. Decides to start rotational grazing. Puts up fencing over weekend. Waits for next step.
Tuesday - @gregjudyregenerativerancher uploads new video. "Now before you put up your fence you're gonna want to trench your waterline here" 😑
Greg!!! You're wearing the same shirt and hat in each video. Just go ahead an upload all the videos so I can finish the farm. I have all my steers in a holding pin until I get your entire strategy implemented so they don't over graze the pasture. Please hurry! They don't have any food or water until then. 🐄
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