@@amberbestdps2048 and tbf, it wasn’t ordered, it was his back up plan if he himself couldn’t find the gnosis, and he didn’t know zhongli was the geo archon either, yet had his suspicions. It was because he knew we didn’t have the gnosis he just decided to drown the city. He did it to lure out the archon, but signora forgot to mention he was already there with it
Personnally i agree that the twins are visitors. Your twin woke up 500 years before you and stayed in Kaendriah. I think that he befriended the people there and witnessed the fury of celestia ( whoever they are) and joined the abyss to protect the people now changed in monsters in hope of saving them. He have good intentions and is not evil. Also, archons seems not proud of what they did when they were called to battle kaendriah and keep their cards close. Like they did a war crime... it all make sense i think but we will have to see in 3 years or more lol
About the archons and Khaenri'ah, I can't stop correlating parts of the 7 sunchildren's story with the 7 archons - as both seem to be puppets pulled on strings to do horrible deeds
So the twin did wake up before the traveler and traveled the world with Dain. but what I cant understand is why he/she didnt wake the other one? from what I understand of the timeline, they arrived together, one of the twins woke up first, explored the world and when they saw Khaenriah's destruction they woke their sibling to leave Teyvat, but got cubed by the Sustainer, is that right?
The gnostic chorus heirs, I think, might be a parallel to the twins, which would support the point, that they are not from Khaenri'ah/Abyss/whatever was there before Khaenri'ah. However, I think, the twins might have some other agenda and/or won't come out as the moraly superior at the end of the story. Well at least one of them. Thats mainly because of the way the traveler acts kinda weird sometimes and keeps stuff to himself, although it could just mean he's insecure for some reason. It is also kind of sus, that they just travel between worlds like that, like, what happened to their original world. Overall, there probably won't be a clear good guys - bad guys situation. Of course, all of this is, if we asume they actually travelled between worlds.
@@fuitygummy2899 I think the Khaenriah stuff happened after they got separated, why the twin didn't wake up the other twin is probably because they were separated and the twin couldn't find the other one but who knows, maybe they did try to escape the destruction of Khaenriah but was then separated but to me what kinda doesn't make sense is how long were we stay asleep for? How can 500 years go by just like that with us never meeting our twin a single time?
mmmm yes, the traveler is just the google drive of teyvat also imagine if yanfei died unhappy in the chasm, therefore breaking the contract with her father and you just see zhongli breaking the seal open and reviving her so she can suffer the wrath of the rock
Finally I can sleep peacefully knowing that Yanfei's horns are not rigid to a single position and she can just sleep normally like in the stickers in-game.
there is multiple sleeping positions u can have so even if they were hard there would be a way she could sleep still . I mean the horns are aimed towards the back if she lays face first on the pillow then yeh xD that works
I wonder what happens when you squeeze the antlers, they look so squishy. Does milk come out? Edit: maybe that's how cocogoat milk is made, since Yanfei is half adeptus. Yanfei was the real cocogoat this whole time.
For the "Traveler is a Witness" Chapter of the video ( 3:19 ), I feel like they were always destined in two different sides in every world they travel. Let me explain: You, or the quest, mentioned that the traveler is witness, someone who watches stories and basically records them as history in their memory. By this statement, the traveler will need to witness both sides of same the story, in Genshin's case the Abyss's side and Teyvat's side. By witnessing both sides, the travelers will be able to combine the two sides of the stories when they unite and basically create a complete story of that world. So, it makes perfect sense why the twins were separated in this story - It's so that the twins, the witness of the stories, can witness both sides of the same story of the Genshin world. This is why it seems like one of the twins were "manipulated" to side with the Abyss (after perhaps witnessing her whole part of the story), while the other twin travels through Teyvat to witness his part of the story. I may be missing some information from the Genshin lore in the making of that^ explanation, so my apologies if there are mistakes.
Imagine in the Khaenri'ah chapter after you explore all the nations you get to play the sibling so you can see their side of the story firsthand. Not sure if your wish party members would transfer over though unless there's a tough weekly boss. Hoyoverse is no stranger to including alternate maps and dimensions based on the story so you can switch in between current and past time periods.
@@BluFrost8888 You saying that we may play as the other twin and see their side of the story made me remember that in the teyvat travail video where they show all the acts of the game in order the khaenri’ah one was not numbered and it’s just blurry where the number is supposed to be so it’s not necessarily the last chronologically. We may be able to go back in time and actually play the khaenri’ah story and not only see cutscenes maybe as a playable memory or sth
@@grapetaems_4492 do you think you could find that video and link it? That sounds super interesting and I’d love to see where they say the story will go
3:18 if we were to go back in time, around the time the cataclysm happened or when the fight between the primodial one and the second who came happened, and we 'fix' some things that would cause the entire timeline to get modified, we might become the only ppl who'd remember them
@@silverhawkscape2677 it's because she's the one who changed the timeline by planting it. Similar to how if we change the timeline only we would remember it.
This is literally how I think the end of genshin is.. With the mention of space and time and time traveling gimbozos especially Makoto planting the sacred sakura from the past with the help of the God of time..
I used to think about this. Not with the PO and second throne but with the cataclysm. That we'd go back to time before cataclysm and stop it from happening and this will be the unnumbered Khaenri'ahan chapter. It sound great on paper, but if we reset all that, genshin as franchise will end then and there unless. I highly doubt they'd do that unless it's way too far down the line. Also, this doesn't address what happens with the Vishap storyline. Even if we stop PO and second throne thing, the Vishap dragon lord resurrection plotline remains unaddressed. So unless they conclude it before the finale, this fantastic idea won't come true. And in all honesty, if it does, it'll be a very very sad ending.
I guess what ever happen if Paimon open that door still a mystery then. I was thinking about silly fear just like Itto if she open the door but since Mihoyo decided not to show it its sound like it will be a biggest spoiler in the game.
The chaotic space is so similar to Sea of Quanta. That forsaken place. It still give me nightmares to this day. How they leave without losing their sanity is a miracle
The Geo Adeptus is the 1st one who died in all yakshas in very young age and Itto (Geo) is the 1st one to be down among them all. (Referring to the Yaksha's elements and the equivalent elements of the used characters in the quest)
Regardless Yanfei's contract, it is also stated in her character story tab that she was born during the peaceful times and therefore didn't signed a contract with Morax as Ganyu, another half-adeptus, did
When you're talking about differences in character's skills in lore and gameplay I think that visions don't give one type of ability. I think visions generally give you power to bend the elements to your will. It's only logical if you're an archer to use that element for bows etc but you still can empower a sword or a polearm if u want when needed. So visions just give a general element bending ability
So does that mean, based on Zhongli's statement, if we forget about Teyvat, including all people we've met in this journey, every incident, then Teyvat would be disappear? I thought Ei's voiceline about remembering her is like an idiom that she will be with us forever.
i think it’s more of “one day all of teyvat will erode, but you can outlive us and remember it all, you can be the one to record its history - the proof of its existence” since the law of erosion doesn’t apply to the traveler (since they aren’t from teyvat)
That's true of anything. Already in our short human history, people, families, cities and even civilizations that we don't have records, fossils or stories for are as a good as never having existed.
Boring truth: As an online game, genshin will one day meets its server closing day, which makes everything in it disappears and left nothing but memories we have. So if we forget, then we forget it
Yeah it’s like the same with culture, knowledge, teachings and everything else Dig up all the knowledge of the past, no matter how far or near, and move it to the present for it to keep on going. If you ever stop that, everything or anything ceases to exist Just like how you won’t be yourself anymore if you forget yourself. How can you say it’s you when your personality, behavior, skills, and everything else beside your looks has been erased or replaced? Even if Teyvat still exists, it will be completely different in the inside, and all things that were in it are forgotten or replaced This is really emo lmao
Something I noticed is that when they show us the Traveler's "biggest fear" and when we are at the place we see the fake abbyss sibling, it shows something that's similar to nightmares that the Traveler has had. If you look at one of their voices lines that's called "About Nightmares," the Traveler talks about how they have nightmares of, quote, "falling through endless darkness" and "of my sibling walking away from me, while I'm unable to catch up to them no matter how fast I run. They tell me that "I've come too late."" And for context, you get these voice lines before you even get to Liyue
one thing i noticed in this quest is that the pillar emits cubes(unknown goddess) and constellation like thing(paimon).. maybe its a clue on their identities? maybe paimon and the sustainer came from a pillar split in half! 😂😂😂
At the part about the Traveler watching out for a treasure: maybe this ties in to Venti’s Battle Pass speech. The Traveler and the Abyss twin could be the siblings in the story, and the treasure could be the Black Pearl (?).
I couldn't hold back on commenting this, because this is important information. I got to the part about Yelan mentioning five regions, etc, where you also brought up the five yaksha... but it reminded me of the existence of the Shijing/ Ssu Ling in Chinese lore. Genbu/ Xuanwu, Black Tortoise, Water of the north (Bonanus); Sieiryu/ Qinglong, Azure Dragon, Wind of the East (Alatus/ Xiao); Suzaku/ Zhuque, Vermillion Phoenix, Fire of the South (Menogius?); and Byakko/ Baihu, White Tiger, Lightning/ Earth of the west (Bosacius/ Indarius?). The four beasts protect the kingdom of the Golden Emperor Huanglong, who was nicknamed the Yellow Dragon. For context... wouldn't that be Zhongli? its also fascinating that its a variable based on text whether Baihu represents lightning or earth, as different lores conflict, but in this case, Indarius got left out of the Genshin variant... which brings me to another point.. was not Pervases considered to be, in a previous quest, one of the five Yaksha? So... was Indarius ever actually there, or was he yet another face of the equivalent to the Golden Emperor... Rex Lapis? Maybe I'm reading into it too much.
11:02 Any one of the twins can sense each other's presence, we see this beforehand when we meet Dainsleif and visit Stormterror's lair, when the traveler suddenly looked at a high rocky cliff, where we later see the other twin was actually there watching us all along.
@Yelan has dealt with the abyss in the past. More info on Yelan's Vision story: she once had a team who investigate Abyss-related mysteries together with her, but an incident during one such investgation left her as the sole survivor and she also got a Vision during (or some time after) that So she knew quite a bit about the Abyss @"I can sense that (my twin) is not here" I don't think it's "sense" in any supernatural manner, our Traveler just knew that the twin that they saw was an illusion and so they're "not here"
small notes, the chasm was created before morax, in xiao's new artifacts its mentioned that it was created by the fall of the sun chariot when the moon sisters died, some speculate it happened when the second throne immerged and fought phanes....second note which is mere speculation by me, is that the abyss might be a staircase leading to khaenri'ah rather then a place containing the nation, my reason to think that is the construction of the abyss we fight in, and another speculation by me that the abyss leads away from the actual world of teyvat we know...meaning khae exist outside it away from celestia rule...as for wetherthe abyss leads up or down, its a mystery related to scara line about the fake sky and the sky we see in the abyss (also the moom which is confirmed is not the same moon of teyvat but another sister)
the house xiao takes you to at the end is also the same spot he stood guard during Beisht's attack on liyue during the lantern rite interlude chapter :)
@16:51 Rather than Yanfei's antlers being soft, I see it as a rigid object slowly swaying as she moves her head like oversized tall earrings. If they were indeed soft, then the horns should bend somewhere between the part near her head and the end of her horns. Although in hindsight, it doesn't make sense for something rigid that's attached to her head to sway so loosely like that. If I were to maintain that the horns are rigid, then it's either an oversight by Hoyoverse in making that cutscene, or maybe they are rigidly attached to her pink cone-shaped "ears" (think of Yae Miko with her drooping fox ears).
I'm still waiting for the explanation that those things are around the piller inside the Chasm looks like the power from Unknown God. Especially those rocks around the Chasm piller.
The ones who have their vision/gnosis can freely use their power in their own will like create shields and etc... even if it's not in the gameplay, they can still do something out of the game but it requires them to know how and if they have the ability and durability to withstand the effects when they perform that kind of ability. Their in-game abilities are based on the abilities they can perform the best like Ayaka's Kamisato Art: Soumetsu (burst) but it doesn't mean that she can't do anything aside from that ability with the use of her vision All I said is just an opinion since we know in some anime or games that when a human received powers, they can use it of their own will and they can do something that others can't because of the power of imagination and creativity they have. Also, some can show great skill in managing these elements but there is only an amount of power they can use. they can break through their limits through training and stuff
thank you for this video 🙏 it's always interesting to see what's easy to miss in the stories. though, the part about yanfei having a contract with her father is something she addresses in her character story that's unlocked by raising friendship, i think?.. at least it was mentioned before because i wondered why that was included here 😅
The reason why we do not teleport into that place is because it could be a domain. I recently saw Ashikai's video and i can feel like I can confirm more and more that it's a domain. I tried using portable teleport waypoint but we couldn't use it there. Although unlike other domains we could use our kamera and other stuff. Maybe because it was in open world but it had very similar behaviour as that of domains we do
my personal opinion and theory about why the character we played and in the story / cutscene have different ability is because the the one doing / copying the ability is the traveler, yes the character in the game also sometimes accompany us as mentioned in every character chat , but when we played the character it is actually the traveler him/herself, i think one of the proof is when we are doing a daily commission in inazuma that we must demonstrate archery to one of the watatsumi resistance soldier , in that quest we must use bow to hit the targets, however due to the game mechanic we always shown that the traveler only using swords , but during that quest it seems that paimon and the soldier see that the one does it is the traveler not the character we played. but this is just my flawed theory 😅 just having fun ❤️
THE PART WHEN LUMINE CAN SAY “BECAUSE THE ABYSS TOOK MY TWIN AWAY” I THINK, BUT THAT PLACE LOOKS SIMILAR TO WHERE THE TWIN WAS STANDING IN LITS OF FLOWER AND HAD 2 SHOOTING STARS GOING BEHIND THEM!!! IS THAT THEIR FIRST HOME?! AND THAT MUST BE WHY LUMINE AND AETHER ALSO SAID SOMETHING LIKE “THIS PLACE SEEMS OR FEEL SIMILAR BY SOME MEANING!”
The part with the twin is a little outdated. considering the new information we got from nahida, but we should just wait until there's more because we got left on a cliffhanger
i like that simplicity. the traveler is just a multi dimensional being that travel to many world. no past life event can effect their story in teyvat. i hate it when the story try to be smart over something in the past that we did not even experience.
To be clear, Yanfei is not an adeptus. She had an adeptus parent, which gives her the title "half-adeptus." An adeptus is any of the powerful magical people/creatures that made that specific contract with Rex Lapis. That's how Ganyu is both a half-adeptus (because she had an adeptus parent) as well as an adeptus herself (because she forged the contract with Rex Lapis). As you mentioned, Yanfei did not forge that contract, so she is not an adeptus.
6:15 No, I think Khanriah is just like Atlantis or so, A developed country but some of them are making a contract with the Abyss. so Celestia decided to punish Khanriah and all the peoples, In Celestia's opinion they would become a dangerous threat. Edit: this is just self theory 😂
3:41 as a great doctor once said, “Do you think people die when they get shot by a bullet? When they are ravaged by an incurable disease? When they drink a poisonous soup? No. People die when they are forgotten”
Since the twins are both stars, they could also be binary stars, which gravitationally revolve around each other, but since the stars in game lore have a mind of their own, they can be seperated. So i think the traveller can sense their sibling due to this. Idk this is just what came in my mind
Watching this video makes me think what if, the twins is like an akashic records that goes through worlds to records anything happens in that world, and the fact that khaenriah is destroyed and the twins got abducted by the unknown god at the starts and ends up with the abyss is part of someone or something's plan to disrupt or conceal the truth about khaenriah prevents it to be recorded, welp that's just a wild guess
i usually don't pay attention when i do the quest. I know you will do the research. After watching your videos then i realize Ahhh! thats what the story is. Thank you for your effort 🙏
you say khaenri'ah location is in abyss, but now we know that Irminsol has record of it so it can be like that,, it maybe that abyss invasion in khaenri'ah was as high that it could not have been stopped so intead it was distroyed and mechas from there also got out of control!
Yeah, I also noticed that the traveler said it was the abyss who took their twin, and not the unknown god. They know what abyss looks like. So they did not just go straight to deep sleep after they fell into teyvat. They were awake at some point before going back to sleep until the main timeline starts. The more we get bits of information about the travelers the more they interest me.
best explained till now. I dont know this is real or not but all we are playing is part of fun and releasing stress. So this is good and motivtes the runnng life and thats what i guess the story will be.
Seriously, Lyudmila and Mikhail are so up-to-date with events, they should have a news show. 🤣 Heck they could be news anchors of an in-game version of The Teyvat Times. 🤣🤣 The Perilous Trails actually made me think of what Dain said at the end of our quest with him at the Chasm - he mentioned something like "a different power at work". Tho i assumed it could be from Celestia but i was thinking that the pillar is the "celestial power" (i think he could recognize celestias power) meanwhile he knows the Abyss powers so he'd point that out too if it were from the Abyss. But since it was something he didn't seem to quite be able to pinpoint what kind of power, i assumed that the "different power" must be from the same force that created that space. A truly bizarre power - like that water in the upside down city we where were doing the quest with him. 🤔 I had thought that the one that made the Fantastic Compass might be Cloud Retainer. Or Guizhong. But since i know little about Guizhong, i leaned into Cloud Retainer. Specially because to me, tho both of them likes to tinker and make inventions, so far, it seemed that what Guizhong makes are more on the things that we can weaponize. While Cloud Retainer is more on making other not-so-practical or random things. Like that cooking machine. 😅 Sea Gazer was a surprise. 😮
Hmm, about the space we were in... it has a lot of similarities to the descriptions of the Abyss from Childe's story. Namely the time shenanigans, Childe was in the Abyss for 3 months while outside it was just 3 days, and there's the fact that Yelan said this space feels alive and wants to lure us in (I forgot the proper wording but yeah) and long ago I read a theory on how the abyss from Childe's description sounds as if it were a living being that purposefully lured Childe in
Not to mention paimon and Traveller. Paimon despite stepping into the compass realm, there is nothing displayed abt her memory. Paimon either doesn’t have memory or things are just blocked from accessing her fates. Paimon is also damn sus, everything that are sus from the start like the fear room points toward her first be4 she dismiss it off.
Reading Xiao character's profile it turns out that the Archon war ( wich involved the Yakshas) happened BEFORE the rise of the Seven ( aka the current archons). This leads me to 2 hypothetical scenario : 1) The twins landed in the Abyss first, then tried to make their escape. 2) Hoyoyo got trapped in their own not very good writing of the plot and most likely they don't even know where they want to go. The amount of contraddictions and confused dates make me keen on the second option. It happens when a plot is written " ex post" .
So I am understanding this was an episode to clarify all is from kaenriah, influenced by the abyss, and promoted by the twin? Also, that Zhongli has more things to hide than showing off being a good dad? I think Zhongli's good actions (denied by himself afterwards) are intended to hide something from kaenriah, or that he's trying to fix something, now that he's not that deadly and fearless Archon he used to be.
From what I feel towards the reason why the twin sided with the Abyss is not because they were tricked into believing that they came from Khaenriah and therefore have to fight for them, but it's out of their free will, they chose to believe that Khaenriah was in the right and therefore wants to do a revolution against Celestia and the archons, to me it feels like the traveler is playing judge to this world and wanted to make everything in the right order again as if they're an outside force that used to be neutral but now chose to side with the Abyss to back them up
is there anyone who still think traveller from teyvat? didnt it obviously stated that they were travelling from world to world,. They even said they wanted to run from the war(instead of helping) and go to other world but got stucked in teyvat due to stupid blocking by that unknown god.
Paimon knows everything all along, When they got stuck figuring out what to do with the compass, Paimon act as if she accidentally knock it down to activate it, but she knew about it.
4:12 Don't everybody knows that? They literally told us that at the start; that they are not originally from this world, and just arrived here. Do people think that the twins are from Tevyat?
I thought the lost treasure was the sword Kaeya talked about. I saw someone say that the sword could be the Traveller's sword in the start of the first cuscene since they lost it due to having to let go it.
I am inclined to believe Yelan learnt her magic from Khaenri'ah as the space below the pillar collapsed after "triggered elemental forces" mentioned by Yelan. Later, she apologized for accidentally trapping Traveler and friends under the space which is supposed to seal Khaenri'ah beast.
I think that the sibling isn't so much corrupted as they have seen something that led them to side with Khaenri'ah. It might be the only way to get out of the world. Or something is deeply wrong with Celestia's people and existence.
In the quest, I noticed that Paimon was also acting weird. She seemed tired, confused and weaker than normal. She didn't appear when press ESC too. Maybe this realm had effects on her in some way?
It's because she was resting with Itto so she didn't appear when you press ESC, I think. Chasm's Bed really make her tired during this quest and Itto + Ushi are taking care of her
One thing I was confused about was in the cutscene when they were using the fantastic compass to get out. The traveler held their head bc of pain but I don’t understand what caused the pain?
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It's sad when lyudmila said "let's hope they can return safe and sound" bcs they're definitely NOT returning safe and sound due to childe actions
Which NPC are you talking about ?
@@gunjitkumar the fatui in monstadt who stand next to the waypoint
More like Fatui actions cause childe just did what he was ordered (Correct me if I am wrong cause I am not sure either)
@@amberbestdps2048 ordered or not, it doesn't make anyone less guilty.
@@amberbestdps2048 and tbf, it wasn’t ordered, it was his back up plan if he himself couldn’t find the gnosis, and he didn’t know zhongli was the geo archon either, yet had his suspicions. It was because he knew we didn’t have the gnosis he just decided to drown the city. He did it to lure out the archon, but signora forgot to mention he was already there with it
Personnally i agree that the twins are visitors. Your twin woke up 500 years before you and stayed in Kaendriah. I think that he befriended the people there and witnessed the fury of celestia ( whoever they are) and joined the abyss to protect the people now changed in monsters in hope of saving them. He have good intentions and is not evil.
Also, archons seems not proud of what they did when they were called to battle kaendriah and keep their cards close. Like they did a war crime... it all make sense i think but we will have to see in 3 years or more lol
Makoto did said that Khaenriah is not a place the Seven can ignore.. so there must be something..
About the archons and Khaenri'ah, I can't stop correlating parts of the 7 sunchildren's story with the 7 archons - as both seem to be puppets pulled on strings to do horrible deeds
So the twin did wake up before the traveler and traveled the world with Dain. but what I cant understand is why he/she didnt wake the other one? from what I understand of the timeline, they arrived together, one of the twins woke up first, explored the world and when they saw Khaenriah's destruction they woke their sibling to leave Teyvat, but got cubed by the Sustainer, is that right?
The gnostic chorus heirs, I think, might be a parallel to the twins, which would support the point, that they are not from Khaenri'ah/Abyss/whatever was there before Khaenri'ah. However, I think, the twins might have some other agenda and/or won't come out as the moraly superior at the end of the story. Well at least one of them. Thats mainly because of the way the traveler acts kinda weird sometimes and keeps stuff to himself, although it could just mean he's insecure for some reason. It is also kind of sus, that they just travel between worlds like that, like, what happened to their original world.
Overall, there probably won't be a clear good guys - bad guys situation. Of course, all of this is, if we asume they actually travelled between worlds.
@@fuitygummy2899 I think the Khaenriah stuff happened after they got separated, why the twin didn't wake up the other twin is probably because they were separated and the twin couldn't find the other one but who knows, maybe they did try to escape the destruction of Khaenriah but was then separated but to me what kinda doesn't make sense is how long were we stay asleep for? How can 500 years go by just like that with us never meeting our twin a single time?
mmmm yes, the traveler is just the google drive of teyvat
also imagine if yanfei died unhappy in the chasm, therefore breaking the contract with her father and you just see zhongli breaking the seal open and reviving her so she can suffer the wrath of the rock
She didn’t make a contract with zhongli so she won’t suffer the wrath of the rock😃
@@2triedforthis830 The hiluchurls in every commission doesn't have a contract yet i give them the wrath of the rock every day😀
@Erwin Archlight 451 what’s Yanfei’s and Zhongli’s contract?
Oh wow 😅
@@quackquackDUCKS dudes can’t get a single W lmao
Finally I can sleep peacefully knowing that Yanfei's horns are not rigid to a single position and she can just sleep normally like in the stickers in-game.
Imagine if the devs realized her horns would make sleeping hard and so made them soft...
Same
I didn't even realise Yanfei had horns until now XD
there is multiple sleeping positions u can have so even if they were hard there would be a way she could sleep still .
I mean the horns are aimed towards the back if she lays face first on the pillow then yeh xD that works
I wonder what happens when you squeeze the antlers, they look so squishy. Does milk come out?
Edit: maybe that's how cocogoat milk is made, since Yanfei is half adeptus. Yanfei was the real cocogoat this whole time.
For the "Traveler is a Witness" Chapter of the video ( 3:19 ), I feel like they were always destined in two different sides in every world they travel. Let me explain:
You, or the quest, mentioned that the traveler is witness, someone who watches stories and basically records them as history in their memory. By this statement, the traveler will need to witness both sides of same the story, in Genshin's case the Abyss's side and Teyvat's side. By witnessing both sides, the travelers will be able to combine the two sides of the stories when they unite and basically create a complete story of that world. So, it makes perfect sense why the twins were separated in this story - It's so that the twins, the witness of the stories, can witness both sides of the same story of the Genshin world. This is why it seems like one of the twins were "manipulated" to side with the Abyss (after perhaps witnessing her whole part of the story), while the other twin travels through Teyvat to witness his part of the story.
I may be missing some information from the Genshin lore in the making of that^ explanation, so my apologies if there are mistakes.
you do have a point 🤔
That actually kinda makes sense wow. Or maybe they were out inside tayvat on purpose
Imagine in the Khaenri'ah chapter after you explore all the nations you get to play the sibling so you can see their side of the story firsthand. Not sure if your wish party members would transfer over though unless there's a tough weekly boss.
Hoyoverse is no stranger to including alternate maps and dimensions based on the story so you can switch in between current and past time periods.
@@BluFrost8888 You saying that we may play as the other twin and see their side of the story made me remember that in the teyvat travail video where they show all the acts of the game in order the khaenri’ah one was not numbered and it’s just blurry where the number is supposed to be so it’s not necessarily the last chronologically. We may be able to go back in time and actually play the khaenri’ah story and not only see cutscenes maybe as a playable memory or sth
@@grapetaems_4492 do you think you could find that video and link it? That sounds super interesting and I’d love to see where they say the story will go
3:18 if we were to go back in time, around the time the cataclysm happened or when the fight between the primodial one and the second who came happened, and we 'fix' some things that would cause the entire timeline to get modified, we might become the only ppl who'd remember them
The only witnesses...unless Ei also remembers.
After all, she was the only one in Inazuma who was surprised at the Sacred Sakura appearing.
@@silverhawkscape2677 it's because she's the one who changed the timeline by planting it.
Similar to how if we change the timeline only we would remember it.
This is literally how I think the end of genshin is.. With the mention of space and time and time traveling gimbozos especially Makoto planting the sacred sakura from the past with the help of the God of time..
this idea would be nice. all this dark death will be reverse if at the end we work with the time god to change the past.
I used to think about this. Not with the PO and second throne but with the cataclysm. That we'd go back to time before cataclysm and stop it from happening and this will be the unnumbered Khaenri'ahan chapter. It sound great on paper, but if we reset all that, genshin as franchise will end then and there unless. I highly doubt they'd do that unless it's way too far down the line. Also, this doesn't address what happens with the Vishap storyline. Even if we stop PO and second throne thing, the Vishap dragon lord resurrection plotline remains unaddressed. So unless they conclude it before the finale, this fantastic idea won't come true. And in all honesty, if it does, it'll be a very very sad ending.
I guess what ever happen if Paimon open that door still a mystery then. I was thinking about silly fear just like Itto if she open the door but since Mihoyo decided not to show it its sound like it will be a biggest spoiler in the game.
The chaotic space is so similar to Sea of Quanta. That forsaken place. It still give me nightmares to this day. How they leave without losing their sanity is a miracle
The Geo Adeptus is the 1st one who died in all yakshas in very young age and Itto (Geo) is the 1st one to be down among them all. (Referring to the Yaksha's elements and the equivalent elements of the used characters in the quest)
And Xiao, the only living Yaksha, is the very last to join the group
Regardless Yanfei's contract, it is also stated in her character story tab that she was born during the peaceful times and therefore didn't signed a contract with Morax as Ganyu, another half-adeptus, did
I enjoyed much of this quest, I definitely liked the mysterious space domain within the Perilous Trail.
That domain had something to do with the past.
When you're talking about differences in character's skills in lore and gameplay I think that visions don't give one type of ability. I think visions generally give you power to bend the elements to your will. It's only logical if you're an archer to use that element for bows etc but you still can empower a sword or a polearm if u want when needed. So visions just give a general element bending ability
So does that mean, based on Zhongli's statement, if we forget about Teyvat, including all people we've met in this journey, every incident, then Teyvat would be disappear? I thought Ei's voiceline about remembering her is like an idiom that she will be with us forever.
i think it’s more of “one day all of teyvat will erode, but you can outlive us and remember it all, you can be the one to record its history - the proof of its existence” since the law of erosion doesn’t apply to the traveler (since they aren’t from teyvat)
Sounds like shit be like that one Zelda game (I forgot what's it called) where you explore that one island but then it turns out to be all but a dream
That's true of anything. Already in our short human history, people, families, cities and even civilizations that we don't have records, fossils or stories for are as a good as never having existed.
Boring truth:
As an online game, genshin will one day meets its server closing day, which makes everything in it disappears and left nothing but memories we have. So if we forget, then we forget it
Yeah it’s like the same with culture, knowledge, teachings and everything else
Dig up all the knowledge of the past, no matter how far or near, and move it to the present for it to keep on going. If you ever stop that, everything or anything ceases to exist
Just like how you won’t be yourself anymore if you forget yourself. How can you say it’s you when your personality, behavior, skills, and everything else beside your looks has been erased or replaced? Even if Teyvat still exists, it will be completely different in the inside, and all things that were in it are forgotten or replaced
This is really emo lmao
To me I think abyss twin has its will to join is just the traveler just doesn't realize that why she or he said travel and discovered the truth
I agree with this. I also feel like the twin join the abyss by their own free will.
They might have lived with kan for a while and then the disaster happened which is why the twin sided with the abyss
Something I noticed is that when they show us the Traveler's "biggest fear" and when we are at the place we see the fake abbyss sibling, it shows something that's similar to nightmares that the Traveler has had. If you look at one of their voices lines that's called "About Nightmares," the Traveler talks about how they have nightmares of, quote, "falling through endless darkness" and "of my sibling walking away from me, while I'm unable to catch up to them no matter how fast I run. They tell me that "I've come too late.""
And for context, you get these voice lines before you even get to Liyue
one thing i noticed in this quest is that the pillar emits cubes(unknown goddess) and constellation like thing(paimon).. maybe its a clue on their identities? maybe paimon and the sustainer came from a pillar split in half! 😂😂😂
At the part about the Traveler watching out for a treasure: maybe this ties in to Venti’s Battle Pass speech. The Traveler and the Abyss twin could be the siblings in the story, and the treasure could be the Black Pearl (?).
Those details are really creating a lot of meaning. Thanks for all the evidence.
lyudmila and mikhail are always SO up to date with their gossips
I like how your thumbnails are clickbaity but actually worth it to watch the video.
I couldn't hold back on commenting this, because this is important information. I got to the part about Yelan mentioning five regions, etc, where you also brought up the five yaksha... but it reminded me of the existence of the Shijing/ Ssu Ling in Chinese lore. Genbu/ Xuanwu, Black Tortoise, Water of the north (Bonanus); Sieiryu/ Qinglong, Azure Dragon, Wind of the East (Alatus/ Xiao); Suzaku/ Zhuque, Vermillion Phoenix, Fire of the South (Menogius?); and Byakko/ Baihu, White Tiger, Lightning/ Earth of the west (Bosacius/ Indarius?).
The four beasts protect the kingdom of the Golden Emperor Huanglong, who was nicknamed the Yellow Dragon. For context... wouldn't that be Zhongli?
its also fascinating that its a variable based on text whether Baihu represents lightning or earth, as different lores conflict, but in this case, Indarius got left out of the Genshin variant... which brings me to another point.. was not Pervases considered to be, in a previous quest, one of the five Yaksha? So... was Indarius ever actually there, or was he yet another face of the equivalent to the Golden Emperor... Rex Lapis?
Maybe I'm reading into it too much.
Lyudmila and Mikhail also talked about Signora's death before, you really get updates from them no matter where the incident occurs
11:02 Any one of the twins can sense each other's presence, we see this beforehand when we meet Dainsleif and visit Stormterror's lair, when the traveler suddenly looked at a high rocky cliff, where we later see the other twin was actually there watching us all along.
@Yelan has dealt with the abyss in the past.
More info on Yelan's Vision story: she once had a team who investigate Abyss-related mysteries together with her, but an incident during one such investgation left her as the sole survivor and she also got a Vision during (or some time after) that
So she knew quite a bit about the Abyss
@"I can sense that (my twin) is not here"
I don't think it's "sense" in any supernatural manner, our Traveler just knew that the twin that they saw was an illusion and so they're "not here"
in the Map menu, it's stated there, Chapter Teyvat indicates that this is just another chapter in their journey across the worlds and space-time.
small notes, the chasm was created before morax, in xiao's new artifacts its mentioned that it was created by the fall of the sun chariot when the moon sisters died, some speculate it happened when the second throne immerged and fought phanes....second note which is mere speculation by me, is that the abyss might be a staircase leading to khaenri'ah rather then a place containing the nation, my reason to think that is the construction of the abyss we fight in, and another speculation by me that the abyss leads away from the actual world of teyvat we know...meaning khae exist outside it away from celestia rule...as for wetherthe abyss leads up or down, its a mystery related to scara line about the fake sky and the sky we see in the abyss (also the moom which is confirmed is not the same moon of teyvat but another sister)
The part on the Lore vs Gameplay was a cherry on top for me. Finally someone said that you should not judge the character 💪
11:00 hence we ‘sensed’ our twin back in stormterror’s lair back with dainsleif
the house xiao takes you to at the end is also the same spot he stood guard during Beisht's attack on liyue during the lantern rite interlude chapter :)
@16:51 Rather than Yanfei's antlers being soft, I see it as a rigid object slowly swaying as she moves her head like oversized tall earrings. If they were indeed soft, then the horns should bend somewhere between the part near her head and the end of her horns.
Although in hindsight, it doesn't make sense for something rigid that's attached to her head to sway so loosely like that. If I were to maintain that the horns are rigid, then it's either an oversight by Hoyoverse in making that cutscene, or maybe they are rigidly attached to her pink cone-shaped "ears" (think of Yae Miko with her drooping fox ears).
Great details! Thank you for the video , I'm looking forward too for your top 20 abyss characters for 2.7 I love your edits on that type of videos 🤍
ushi can definitely exorcise demons in gameplay he is stronger than a meteor
he exorcise them with raw power and cuteness
During the quest all I could think was “oh shit, we’ve been eaten by an astral dreadnaught.”
I’m still not fully convinced we weren’t.
I'm still waiting for the explanation that those things are around the piller inside the Chasm looks like the power from Unknown God. Especially those rocks around the Chasm piller.
The ones who have their vision/gnosis can freely use their power in their own will like create shields and etc... even if it's not in the gameplay, they can still do something out of the game but it requires them to know how and if they have the ability and durability to withstand the effects when they perform that kind of ability. Their in-game abilities are based on the abilities they can perform the best like Ayaka's Kamisato Art: Soumetsu (burst) but it doesn't mean that she can't do anything aside from that ability with the use of her vision
All I said is just an opinion since we know in some anime or games that when a human received powers, they can use it of their own will and they can do something that others can't because of the power of imagination and creativity they have. Also, some can show great skill in managing these elements but there is only an amount of power they can use. they can break through their limits through training and stuff
One thing that we did not miss: Ushi vibing all the way thru and being a wholesome gigachad.
thank you for this video 🙏 it's always interesting to see what's easy to miss in the stories. though, the part about yanfei having a contract with her father is something she addresses in her character story that's unlocked by raising friendship, i think?.. at least it was mentioned before because i wondered why that was included here 😅
I was also confused at Yanfei's horn movement, it looked like it was about to fall off ;v;
The reason why we do not teleport into that place is because it could be a domain. I recently saw Ashikai's video and i can feel like I can confirm more and more that it's a domain. I tried using portable teleport waypoint but we couldn't use it there. Although unlike other domains we could use our kamera and other stuff. Maybe because it was in open world but it had very similar behaviour as that of domains we do
There's a theory that's says that khaeneriah is a place that was built by the abyss twin for the mc
The fact that there's still no info in this patch on what happened on Zhiqiong after she left alone. :')
11:00 yes, this was also mentioned in the world quest where we first met Dainslief.
Man, your videos are always a pleasure to watch
so well put together
my personal opinion and theory about why the character we played and in the story / cutscene have different ability is because the the one doing / copying the ability is the traveler, yes the character in the game also sometimes accompany us as mentioned in every character chat , but when we played the character it is actually the traveler him/herself, i think one of the proof is when we are doing a daily commission in inazuma that we must demonstrate archery to one of the watatsumi resistance soldier , in that quest we must use bow to hit the targets, however due to the game mechanic we always shown that the traveler only using swords , but during that quest it seems that paimon and the soldier see that the one does it is the traveler not the character we played.
but this is just my flawed theory 😅 just having fun ❤️
THE PART WHEN LUMINE CAN SAY “BECAUSE THE ABYSS TOOK MY TWIN AWAY” I THINK, BUT THAT PLACE LOOKS SIMILAR TO WHERE THE TWIN WAS STANDING IN LITS OF FLOWER AND HAD 2 SHOOTING STARS GOING BEHIND THEM!!! IS THAT THEIR FIRST HOME?! AND THAT MUST BE WHY LUMINE AND AETHER ALSO SAID SOMETHING LIKE “THIS PLACE SEEMS OR FEEL SIMILAR BY SOME MEANING!”
"Travelling to a nearby waypoint to be able to teleport" ? Geralt of Rivia says "Welcome to the club, kiddo!"
The part with the twin is a little outdated. considering the new information we got from nahida, but we should just wait until there's more because we got left on a cliffhanger
i like that simplicity. the traveler is just a multi dimensional being that travel to many world. no past life event can effect their story in teyvat.
i hate it when the story try to be smart over something in the past that we did not even experience.
To be clear, Yanfei is not an adeptus. She had an adeptus parent, which gives her the title "half-adeptus." An adeptus is any of the powerful magical people/creatures that made that specific contract with Rex Lapis. That's how Ganyu is both a half-adeptus (because she had an adeptus parent) as well as an adeptus herself (because she forged the contract with Rex Lapis). As you mentioned, Yanfei did not forge that contract, so she is not an adeptus.
6:15 No, I think Khanriah is just like Atlantis or so, A developed country but some of them are making a contract with the Abyss. so Celestia decided to punish Khanriah and all the peoples, In Celestia's opinion they would become a dangerous threat.
Edit: this is just self theory 😂
3:41 as a great doctor once said, “Do you think people die when they get shot by a bullet? When they are ravaged by an incurable disease? When they drink a poisonous soup? No. People die when they are forgotten”
Since the twins are both stars, they could also be binary stars, which gravitationally revolve around each other, but since the stars in game lore have a mind of their own, they can be seperated. So i think the traveller can sense their sibling due to this. Idk this is just what came in my mind
Finallyyy the analysis of recent archon quest
Watching this video makes me think what if, the twins is like an akashic records that goes through worlds to records anything happens in that world, and the fact that khaenriah is destroyed and the twins got abducted by the unknown god at the starts and ends up with the abyss is part of someone or something's plan to disrupt or conceal the truth about khaenriah prevents it to be recorded, welp that's just a wild guess
Tbh, im looking at Ushi in this entire quest's conversations. His dance kinda interesting
i usually don't pay attention when i do the quest. I know you will do the research. After watching your videos then i realize Ahhh! thats what the story is. Thank you for your effort 🙏
you say khaenri'ah location is in abyss, but now we know that Irminsol has record of it so it can be like that,, it maybe that abyss invasion in khaenri'ah was as high that it could not have been stopped so intead it was distroyed and mechas from there also got out of control!
The “lost treasure” might have to do with the battle pass lore’s “pearl of genesis”
The twin travellers are dimension hopping explorers.
Appreciate your work for details and information and how you summarize it, thanks as always
Yeah, I also noticed that the traveler said it was the abyss who took their twin, and not the unknown god. They know what abyss looks like. So they did not just go straight to deep sleep after they fell into teyvat. They were awake at some point before going back to sleep until the main timeline starts.
The more we get bits of information about the travelers the more they interest me.
When you realize that the same abyss is in kokomi's dream in her character demo
best explained till now. I dont know this is real or not but all we are playing is part of fun and releasing stress. So this is good and motivtes the runnng life and thats what i guess the story will be.
Seriously, Lyudmila and Mikhail are so up-to-date with events, they should have a news show. 🤣 Heck they could be news anchors of an in-game version of The Teyvat Times. 🤣🤣
The Perilous Trails actually made me think of what Dain said at the end of our quest with him at the Chasm - he mentioned something like "a different power at work". Tho i assumed it could be from Celestia but i was thinking that the pillar is the "celestial power" (i think he could recognize celestias power) meanwhile he knows the Abyss powers so he'd point that out too if it were from the Abyss. But since it was something he didn't seem to quite be able to pinpoint what kind of power, i assumed that the "different power" must be from the same force that created that space. A truly bizarre power - like that water in the upside down city we where were doing the quest with him. 🤔
I had thought that the one that made the Fantastic Compass might be Cloud Retainer. Or Guizhong. But since i know little about Guizhong, i leaned into Cloud Retainer. Specially because to me, tho both of them likes to tinker and make inventions, so far, it seemed that what Guizhong makes are more on the things that we can weaponize. While Cloud Retainer is more on making other not-so-practical or random things. Like that cooking machine. 😅 Sea Gazer was a surprise. 😮
Hmm, about the space we were in... it has a lot of similarities to the descriptions of the Abyss from Childe's story. Namely the time shenanigans, Childe was in the Abyss for 3 months while outside it was just 3 days, and there's the fact that Yelan said this space feels alive and wants to lure us in (I forgot the proper wording but yeah) and long ago I read a theory on how the abyss from Childe's description sounds as if it were a living being that purposefully lured Childe in
Lyudmila and Mikhail ALWAYS has new dialogs if some intersting happends or a new nation is unlocked
Not to mention paimon and Traveller. Paimon despite stepping into the compass realm, there is nothing displayed abt her memory. Paimon either doesn’t have memory or things are just blocked from accessing her fates. Paimon is also damn sus, everything that are sus from the start like the fear room points toward her first be4 she dismiss it off.
Yanfei's antlers turns out to be soft and wiggly is kinda cursed imo
Been waiting for this video a lot and it was worth it
17:03 Ayan na naman 'yong mga marites ng Monstadt. Updated na updated sa latest chika. HAHAHA
I’m today years old that I realized Yanfei had horns
I just found your channel and I'm already loving it 🥰
Reading Xiao character's profile it turns out that the Archon war ( wich involved the Yakshas) happened BEFORE the rise of the Seven ( aka the current archons). This leads me to 2 hypothetical scenario : 1) The twins landed in the Abyss first, then tried to make their escape. 2) Hoyoyo got trapped in their own not very good writing of the plot and most likely they don't even know where they want to go. The amount of contraddictions and confused dates make me keen on the second option. It happens when a plot is written " ex post" .
So I am understanding this was an episode to clarify all is from kaenriah, influenced by the abyss, and promoted by the twin? Also, that Zhongli has more things to hide than showing off being a good dad? I think Zhongli's good actions (denied by himself afterwards) are intended to hide something from kaenriah, or that he's trying to fix something, now that he's not that deadly and fearless Archon he used to be.
From what I feel towards the reason why the twin sided with the Abyss is not because they were tricked into believing that they came from Khaenriah and therefore have to fight for them, but it's out of their free will, they chose to believe that Khaenriah was in the right and therefore wants to do a revolution against Celestia and the archons, to me it feels like the traveler is playing judge to this world and wanted to make everything in the right order again as if they're an outside force that used to be neutral but now chose to side with the Abyss to back them up
is there anyone who still think traveller from teyvat? didnt it obviously stated that they were travelling from world to world,. They even said they wanted to run from the war(instead of helping) and go to other world but got stucked in teyvat due to stupid blocking by that unknown god.
Paimon knows everything all along, When they got stuck figuring out what to do with the compass, Paimon act as if she accidentally knock it down to activate it, but she knew about it.
It is a fact that people from Khaenri'ah did turn into abyss 'beasts'
4:12 Don't everybody knows that? They literally told us that at the start; that they are not originally from this world, and just arrived here. Do people think that the twins are from Tevyat?
to be honest, never once did Zhongli hit me as the Fantastic Compass' creator. I knew it was somebody else.
did you fergot the part in the quest "We Will Be Reunited" confirms abyss monsters = kaenri'ah people
I thought the lost treasure was the sword Kaeya talked about. I saw someone say that the sword could be the Traveller's sword in the start of the first cuscene since they lost it due to having to let go it.
I am inclined to believe Yelan learnt her magic from Khaenri'ah as the space below the pillar collapsed after "triggered elemental forces" mentioned by Yelan. Later, she apologized for accidentally trapping Traveler and friends under the space which is supposed to seal Khaenri'ah beast.
This domain like space is similar to Divine Ingenuity Event Domain
If u see the trailer for the battle pass u will know the lost treasure , I think 🤔......
Listening to those gossipy duo makes me wonder if Anton and what left of Ninth company managed to get outside and linking in with their comrades.
The video's very serious but Ushi's just there like dancing his a$$ off
I'd rather watching these lores for hours than watching a history class
16:51 *thanks now i have a horn fetish because of Yan Fei*
14:37 is wrong thou.
Nowhere does it state that the Chasm is older then Rex Lapis or that the Skynail fell 6000 years ago right?
14:30 Ok I didn't notice this. 😆
When ei said "If you remember me, I'll live forever" it reminds me of technoblade
ah yes mikhail and lyudmila, they always know the news
I think that the sibling isn't so much corrupted as they have seen something that led them to side with Khaenri'ah. It might be the only way to get out of the world. Or something is deeply wrong with Celestia's people and existence.
Lol the two fatui at Mondstadt change dialogue again
sorry to ask but where did you take that ilustration of ganyu and cloud retainer on yanfeis contract bit
In the quest, I noticed that Paimon was also acting weird. She seemed tired, confused and weaker than normal. She didn't appear when press ESC too. Maybe this realm had effects on her in some way?
It's because she was resting with Itto so she didn't appear when you press ESC, I think. Chasm's Bed really make her tired during this quest and Itto + Ushi are taking care of her
it was explained in the quest that the domain they see mentally exhausts them, and she didn’t appear because she was sleeping
You can`t be so sure about teleport waypoints.
One thing I was confused about was in the cutscene when they were using the fantastic compass to get out. The traveler held their head bc of pain but I don’t understand what caused the pain?
tell me why the abyss is so beautiful
why is it beau-
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