Trina shouldn't have to charge you for background singing, you should voluntarily PAY HER for her work! The workman is worthy of his reward - BIBLE FACTS.
+Luz Figueroa I wouldn't do that. Now, I can see buying your parents a house and setting them up nicely for retirement, but I wouldn't be Bank of Ariel for the entire family ALL the time.
+kourtneylo ....exactly! THAT'S how she went bankrupt and that's why it's ridiculous when people try to put her in the "jelous sister category"...she has NO reason to be jealous of Tamar or anyone else...she is Toni "THE" Braxton Superstar.
Toni has financially supported her family from the beginning of her career and continues to without repayment.. I think the least they could do is jump on a track without expecting a cheque 😑🙄
Coz Brooke ...lies you tell,Toni sister's supported themslves bfre Toni bcme big.It's only right if you pay your other background singers,then you can pay your sisters for their hard works.And we see now that's problly why Tamar stop singing background,bc she wasn't gttg paid but she's not gonna admit that part.And that's why Toni always wanted her sister's to song backgrd for her so she wouldn't haven't to pay out that extra cash
Thank you. So, she was suppose to do all that traveling with 2 kids at home and not get paid. And Tamar didnt want Towanda to be paid for working for Toni. Yet, Vince was taking care of her.
Yea, I’m right there wit yu. Then it’s like what kind of conversation is that to hve on television? Somethings shud be private. Trina clearly said she wasn’t financially stable enuff therefore that’s the reason why she was charging Toni for singing. Tamar only got wit Vince bc he had money, gold digger.
If Toni had hired backup singers outside her family she would have to pay them. You have to consider the amount of hours Trina is putting in singing backup for Toni. Time she could be spending doing something else and getting paid. No one wants to work for free. Family or no family, once you start putting in hours you need to be PAID FOR YOUR WORK.
yes, so then what was the reason why they were not helping support their mother then? If they're getting a salary, so on top of Toni paying them, she's also supporting their mum with everything else?
Exactly nothing is for free I'm sorry I would have song sometimes for free but not all the time🙄 Tony is a superstar she supposed to fit the bill she's the one blessed now everybody else can do more cuz they're individuals now God is good
@@crystalroberts5938 what does Gabe's money has to do with Evelyn? She has the platform to make her own money and 6 kids to hold her down. These people are not business savvy...
I like how Toni validated Tamar's "Before Vincent" statement. Yes, Tamar is a whole trip, but she was helping Toni help their mother long before she was rich herself, while the other sisters basically said "Well, Toni got it. She can do it." No such thing. $10, $50 whatever they could have contributed. You don't have to be rich to help. It's SIX of ya'll...that makes it easier.
Miss E should have moved out of that big ol' house that she lived in by herself. A smaller condo would be just fine. She wouldn't even let Tawannda and her family move in when Gabe practically begged her to. Instead of downsizing so her children wouldn't have to fight over who's paying her bills, she decided to stay in a house that's too big for a single senior citizen. Her fault!!! Not the girls. They all had school age children and bills themselves except Tamar. Miss. E created that mess.
Exactly and it’s on other clips that Tamar helped Towanda in buying her a car and helping her with a lot of things and She and kids and husband stayed with Tamar and Vince and she stayed with Trina and Trina told her on the show that was time for her and her lil family to go. Then Towanda stole from them . Shoot Towanda in her show showing a house that she has now lost and Tamar finds boots purses coats and clothes that Tamar didn’t know she had. Most responsible my ass. Jealous and a hater.
They had their business ventures. Plus, would you house/clothe/feed/buy cars/take care of each sisters separate families, and pay each a check? That's a burden especially when they ALL knew Toni was having financial problems (bankruptcy TWICE). Only person that helped was Tamar. Before she married the first husband, during, and after. And before Vincent, to which she had been divorced from the first for some years. Then during Vincent.
The rule is if you work you expect to get paid. I don’t know anyone who works for free. I also remember when Toni told her sisters they where not going to be her back ground singers anymore, the sisters where so dam happy. Toni is not the easiest person to work for.
Exactly.If you want people there at your beck and call then yes they need to get paid. How can they hold down a regular job if they have to be available for you. Tamar made money doing background work for other people, the rest of them did not not to mention she was married before to a record producer so of course she had some kind of money.
I’m not even a cheerleader for Tamar but she clearly said she was helping out her mom before Vince came into the picture and Toni backed up her statement.
Something I don’t like about Toni. She complains that her sisters hold her back but expects them to drop everything to always be there for her and she doesn’t think they should be compensated. That’s ridiculous. She should want to pay them because anyone else would want money and a good amount of it.
I think Tamar's reaction to them being paid to do back up singing was heated bc Toni has always taken care of her sisters financially since the start of her career (if you watched Behind The Music they all said the same)... so to support them (housing, transportation, luxuries etc) AND pay them is reaching. I understand her point.
+CHARISSE WOODING-SMITH Also, Toni said that Tamar helped BEFORE vince... I don't know why people don't realize she had a great background singer career lol. I mean she may not have been jet rich but, I know she had some money. tamar is a hustler lol.
+CHARISSE WOODING-SMITH I'm sorry but I disagree, just because they're her sisters does not mean she shouldn't have to pay them, before this show and all of its success, weren't none of them chics rich on their own accord, the only one who wouldn't need the money is Tamar because of the fact that she's married to a man with money. How and or why she wasn't charging Toni to do back up before Vince, is beyond me, especially considering how selfish she clearly can be. However, I don't feel its at all selfish to expect a salary, when you're being expected to travel all over the world doing the job that an actual professional back up singer does and would most certainly be paid to do. Are the rest of the sisters also doing the shows for free to?, Traci and Towanda? that's bull crap, if I'm a grown ass adult traveling all over the world with you as a back up singer, you betta dam well be paying me as a back singer, and I don't give a dam if you pushed me out of your coochie. All that money Toni has been making for years for every single show I guarantee you that she gets booked for, and they're not suppose to get shit but a free plane ride and a meal? are you serious? singers of Toni's caliber command huge pay checks for every single show they do, there is no reason why she can pay all of her crew as is expected but use her sisters as free professional back singers and think that's cool. No that's being somewhat selfish and cheap. True, maybe they can charge her less as a sisterly favor, but they most certainly should be given a regular income if they're traveling all over the world with her, these women have families and their own lives. Aint nobody got time to be 35 years old, doing free shows for a well paid mega star lol
Like, they have to drop everything and travel with Toni to sing background for her. That means they can't work a regular 9-5. So that's their job and of course they should get paid. Tamar's attitude is so nasty.
+Beinglively Just because Tamar is running her mouth and saying that doesn't mean it's true. Every child has a personal relationship with their parent and one may not broadcast what they do for their mother to everyone else.
+Davia Walton Toni agreed too. It wasn't Tamar just "running her mouth." And Trina didn't deny it, so she was basically agreeing to what they said. That's why she started with, "This isn't an excuse..." What Tamar and Toni were saying was TRUTH!
Davia Walton I agree!!! They have families....Tamar didn't at that time! Come on be realistic...Toni and Tamar!!! (Before Vince) Tamar was Financially stable so that's why she didn't ask to get paid. The other sister's where not. Bottom line.!!!!
Davia Walton true that’s just what I was about to say maybe tamar is financially comfortable and doesn’t keep the money but the other sisters probably don’t have means of support or income so they need that money
@@djuanhunter6565, it was more than Tamar being financially stable. It was her WILLINGNESS TO HELP. The other siblings didn't even display a willingness to help because Toni was there with the money. A person with a heart to help would have at least communicated the desire. That was not done and that was Toni's frustration. Maybe they couldn't help, but it was more that they didn't WANT to help. And as Toni stated, something as small as an insurance bill...so the siblings couldn't come together to divide that bill? Get out of here! And, knowing Toni's financial situation, because they all knew, the sisters should have cut Toni some slack with charging because that is what families and friends do when they have your best interest at heart. It was never about Toni disliking having to pay; it was more the disrespect they showed Toni. That is very clear and obvious.
@Ms. InspiredDreams and who problem is that? You wouldn't go to your 9 to 5 and let them tell you they going bankrupt so they can't for you for those 2 weeks you worked you gon want yo money
I know but she was able to contribute from both of those things...I just think she was a little to hard on Trina making it seem like she was a bad person
April Smith I can see why you say that but I think Tamar is always trying to make it seem as though she is always in the right when it comes to her sisters and that they are less than her if they disagree or do something she doesnt agree with... and honestly Tamar has always been more financially stable than her sisters due to record deals, and some of the men she has dealt with
I thought this was a foul conversation to have. Now this here was actually two sisters attacking another sister about money matters; knowing that Trina did not have the income that they possessed. Trina probably did the best she could in giving her mother money for some things, she was not able to buy her mother cars, houses, or pay car notes or car insurance at that time. Trina finances got better when BFV began.
Toni basically supported her entire family. To make sure your five siblings + their kids and your mom are living comfortably is tough..for anyone. Your telling me after she put them up, paid for some of them to go to college, got them record deals, and gave them the lifestyle they have today; they can't even pay for their moms health insurance or put something towards her bills. Everyone can do something. Tamar did something BEFORE Vince and the other three couldnt? Oh please! Im sure Toni felt/feels used.
+Attitude Prelude I can understand Toni's point of view .But her and Tamar need to realize Trina had a 9-5 job,it doesn't make sense to take off a salaried intermittently to tour with Toni for free with 2 kids to feed.
In my opinion there is no excuse for them not to chip on to help their mom and rely solely on Toni!!! I think they just saw dollar signs and assumed that Toni should automatically become an ATM, which is not right!! Point blank...and the Period!
i always wondered why ms.evelyn didn't work'.Jay-z is a multi millionaire his mother continued to work her 9-5 government job.and one sister worked on Rikers Island.It says alot about their character.My mother would continue working too.I'd be upset with her,because she gave/gives us her all.
Mama E is a grown ass woman. If she walked away with nothing, this is a conversation to have with your Pappy! Further, if helping your mother is a burden, don’t help. Get her into a class to manage money and put her on a budget. Those wigs and nails are not cheap. Poor Trina. This was an attack. Also to Toni, if you dragging me all up and through the US on a bus using up my throat, you gona write a check so I can buy something for my children I left at home. If the venue paid you, you need to pay me. Period.
Right. The audacity of Tamar and, especially, Toni. Like why should they work for free? You get all the money. Then they all up on TV calling Trina out thinking they right when they wrong as two left shoes.
Stacy Robinson I think it’s because they paid for and took care of their mom for so long and the others didn’t. It would get annoying plus they’ve all been open about Toni taking care of them financially throughout the years (except for Tamar). It would annoy me too.
@@mielissa100ify Toni and Tamar have that in common. In all fairness the other sisters may not have the means to financially support their mom to that magnitude. It's a reason Toni filed bankruptcy twice
Stacy Robinson yeah but even throw a little money her way. Tamar was paying before she met Vince apparently. None of them could throw their mama a few dollars or cut Toni some slack when it came to paying for them?
@@mielissa100ify Tamar also didn't have kids before Vince where the other sisters did. From what I see Toni chose to financially support her family because she didn't want them to resent her success. That's her choice but it's unfair to force her choice on her sister.
Toni and Tamar helping their mother is great but why can't their mother take care of herself????? Completely taking care of someone is very hard even for someone like Toni. I am glad at least Tamar has helped Toni with the financial responsibility.
Girl bye...family is family but that don't mean I work for u for free and not get a dime...the same way u pay Everybody else to work for u, I want my money too....in fact since we "family" I need to get my check first..Thank u
That's cool but it's not Trina's responsibility to do what Tamar does. Trina may not have the means to do so nor is she obligated to take care of her mom.
@@crystalroberts5938 they may not of had the money. It also depends on what it was the mom needed. Toni is talking about paying her moms monthly car insurance.
That's so ridiculous! She is a background singer and deserves to be paid! If Tamar's husband is rich and She doesn't need the money, that's her business! But Trina has the right to be paid for her work as a background singer, she has to be available for Toni all the time to sing for Toni and it doesn't " make sense " to get paid for that?! Who does that?!
I'm trying to figure out where are the sisters income gonna come from if Toni doesn't pay them. They have families and need to support them. If she had other background singers she would have to pay them. I understand not paying them as much as she would other background singers but come on! it goes both ways. She would pay someone else why not keep the money in the family?
I think she's talking about how in the past maybe certain siblings didn't try too much to depend on other means on income cuz they figured they would just go the easy route by working with Toni. And Toni is such a sweetheart that she tried as long as humanly possible to provide for everybody in her family as well as her kids and the husband who wasn't working during the latter part of their time together. Especially when Toni got sicker and sicker with Lupus, had financial issues herself, and needed family to help out some, she wasn't getting that and still carried that financial burden because she loves them so much. She wasn't asking them for money -- she was just asking for them to maybe ease up on their financial demands since she was struggling herself! After allllll those years of being the bank for the fam, ain't much to ask for. So I get why Toni is hurt. Make complete damn sense to me!
Oh, in addition to my last comment... The sisters could've gotten other paying jobs. It's not like Toni was having them working every day of the year -- not even close! Especially when she got sick, she wasn't working that much at all. At least once the Lupus really started taking its toll and she couldn't work as much, I 100 percent feel they shouldn't have asked for much money for helping Toni out, if any at all. And I would be willing to bet that Toni would STILL pay them because of the kind thoughtfulness, the feature alone, and the willingness to do that for their sister in need. Like come on now!
Nope I'm not for that, I think she should pay them as much as background singers. I think it's unrealistic and unfair to think that people can come at your beck and call and not have a way to support themselves because you demand so much of their time and then not want to pay them or make them feel bad for you paying them. No. At the end of the day if you don't want to pay them ask them to do it every once in a while or not at all, if you don't want to pay people then don't ask them to come.
They had their business ventures. Plus, would you house/clothe/feed/buy cars/take care of each sisters separate families, and pay each a check? That's a burden especially when they ALL knew Toni was having financial problems (bankruptcy TWICE). Only person that helped was Tamar. Before she married the first husband, during, and after. And before Vincent, to which she had been divorced from the first for some years. Then during Vincent.
Trina had a husband and two children; Tamar was single and had no children... why SHOULD Trina leave her children at home, or with a sitter... leave her husband to take care of his step-children and travel all over the states with Toni Braxton and come back home with nothing? Why WOULD she? Toni got paid... the singers to the right and the left got paid... the person who did her hair got paid... But Trina should've stood there and sung for a meal and a hotel stay and be OK with that? She should've charged her because she was paying everyone else and, especially, if she had to leave her family to sing. It's not like she called her and said, "Girl, I'm going to be at JuJu's on 11th avenue... can you come sing with me tonight?" every blue moon! Lastly, why was it Trina's responsibility to take care of their mother when she was able bodied? She didn't work because she didn't want to, not because she fell and was riding around in an electric wheelchair! Toni took care of her mother because she was a millionaire and she wanted to take care of her mother - Kudos... but, Trina had a husband and two children... Tracy had a husband and a child. Tawanda was an executive assistant - they had regular lives with regular folk bills and expensive assed kids. Maybe they couldn't take care of their mother and since Toni was the millionaire who WANTED to do it because it didn't affect her bottom line, they let her handle it... but don't throw it in folks faces when you get broke.
The mother should not rely on children, grown, wealthy, middle class or poor. She should’ve had something after 30 years in a marriage. You mean to tell me she didn’t have a nest egg to lean on? It’s not her children’s responsibility to pay her bills. When she found out her husband was creeping, she should’ve started saving then, 9 years prior to the divorce. They didn’t even divorce immediately when she found out. It was almost a decade later. The fish rots from the head. She has created so much drama and unnecessary strife.
I feel bad for Trina. Tamar is married to a millionaire so she's financially stable and doesn't need the money. Trina wasn't as lucky and they're dogging her out for getting paid to WORK. Smh.
+Jarrod Gillespie I heard that and that's great but that's still no reason to eat your sister out like that about money on national tv. Who brags about helping their parents anyway. Trina probably was barely making it herself back in the day before this show. She has children, etc. Tamar didn't have children back then so it was probably easier for her to give more as opposed to the others and Toni can help a lot, for obvious reasons lol.
I think it's only right that they get paid. Doing shows take a lot of work and rehearsals, plus they have their own families to take care of. Not everyone has a rich husband to supply them with everything.
U could pay ONE MONTH OF INSURANCE!! They are not STRUGGLING THAT MUCH!! Mom deserves that..She dealt with infidelity and continued to raise 5 kids alone...putting her kids above her own needs. She raised REALLY GREAT CHILDREN!!
They had their business ventures. Plus, would you house/clothe/feed/buy cars/take care of each sisters separate families, and pay each a check? That's a burden especially when they ALL knew Toni was having financial problems (bankruptcy TWICE). Only person that helped was Tamar. Before she married the first husband, during, and after. And before Vincent, to which she had been divorced from the first for some years. Then during Vincent.
@@thomasinashelton7019They were grown and gone when the mother and father divorced. That’s no excuse. She had 30 plus years to have some sort of nest egg. Even if they didn’t get divorced, he could’ve passed away and she would’ve figured it out. Solely leaning on your kids because your husband cheated is a sorry excuse. There’s worse things.
Yes, Toni does need to pay for work. The sister's lives shouldn't revolve around Toni's goals and dreams. Tours take weeks, sometimes even months. People have their own live and responsibilities, which include finances. Free for all ain't it. The only reason Tamar don't care about the money is because she is spoiled rotten by her rich husband. Bet she would want a check if she wasn't with Vince before she blew up from the show. I'm just saying....
you sure is right but the reason why toni did not pay her sisters is because when she would ask Tamar, Traci, And Trina did they want to get paid they told her no because she was there sister and that they knew the struggles that she was going through, also the only person she did pay was Towanda because Towanda was her personal assistant.
They had their business ventures. Plus, would you house/clothe/feed/buy cars/take care of each sisters separate families, and pay each a check? That's a burden especially when they ALL knew Toni was having financial problems (bankruptcy TWICE). Only person that helped was Tamar. Before she married the first husband, during, and after. And before Vincent, to which she had been divorced from the first for some years. Then during Vincent.
@@rachelhemphill3352when you are a child. That was their responsibility as a parent. When you signed up to be a parent, you signed for all bills until they became self sufficient, I.e an adult. Their mother had decades to save something. No one should be footing all of anyone’s bills unless they are millionaire or billionaire status.
They feel there successful enough to help there mom because of how the divorce went first of all and there mom as a parent has always been there for them so to show there appreciation they do for there mom so she want have to work people today love your parents
+Davia Walton Tamar didn't bring it up. TONI DID. So with your mindset, it was TONI who was broadcasting it on a microphone. Everyone is so quick to hate on Tamar every time when she almost always has valid points. Her personality and delivery is just a turn-off to some, making them automatically rule out any damn thing she got to say. Shame.
First of all trina, towanda and traci has family why the hell they gonna help with ms e's expanses!?! Yeah thats their mother but can't see get a job? Isn't she on some sort of retirement plan? Oh plz!
I didn't like how they ganged up on Trina. It made sense for Trina to charge, hell she has two kids. Tamar had no children at that time and was only obligated to herself.
Tamar been waiting to bring that up! and for what? taking care of your mom financially and background singing are two different areas. Trina and Towanda have families, Tamar is taken care of. Of course you wouldn't charge Toni because you essentially don't have to work for a living.
I get where Toni is coming from but really she need to be having this conversation w/ Ms. E! Nothing wrong with helping your mom but when you are helping to the point that it’s lands you in bankruptcy it’s time to cut the strings. My mom wouldn’t even allow me to finance her life to the point I’m in bankruptcy🤷🏽♀️
Business is business. What does a blood line running through you both have to do with you leaving your family to go on tour to help Toni out. She would be paying back up singers anyway. People have this mentality that with family you have to give and give until you have no more. Thats not the case.
I get both sides of this. Trina has to hit the road and basically she needs money to feed her babies. It's very easy for Tamer to cut checks, she has a husband that is very wealthy
Jordan Cooper Yeah I got that part as well but now she can really take care of mom because her and Vince are rolling in money. Trina doesn't have a steady singing career like Toni and Tamar
+Yvonne Watkins Ew. Ain't nothing wrong with the thought of kids taking are of their parents as they are getting older, whether they are sick, able-bodied, what have you. Parents take care of their kids and raise them, provide for them, do all they can to ensure they become good men and women. Good, loving, responsible children should have an innate desire to take care of their parents when they get older. Even a little bit helps as someone else was saying, as it's especially the thought that counts. Even when I was and am struggling, I ALWAYS help my loved ones -- no matter what. Come on, now, that should be a given!!!
Towanda's husband doesn't work and apparently, from what I've seen on the shows, never has steady employment. Clearly, Towanda needs to get paid for whatever work she does for Toni. If Trina needs the money, then she has a right to get paid. If Toni didn't want to pay them (like she'd pay other back up singers) then she should have said so. Don't come in after the fact and act brand new. The agreement between Toni and Trina or Toni and Towanda is none of Tamar's business. Point blank period. Now, what they do financially to help their mother (who has been a good/real mother to them) they need to discuss together but whether or not they get paid by Toni? Nunnya.
If towanda is always running after toni, who is gonna take care if the kids? Andre. How can he work. The kids need attention, nurture, care, and the caretaker needs rest
I wanna know why Toni was the only one who had to take on her mother's financial burdens when she was going through her own financial problems. Toni had to filed bankruptcy twice. That's not right. I thought Fantasia had some leeching ass people in her family but damn!!!
Shit, IDK about this one. I've been asking why the mom doesn't work or stopped doing hair, etc. If you talked into giving up her business to help you, you shouldn't gripe about covering her expenses. I know for a fact when the money was great, Toni had her mansion and she bought a home for her mom as well. I get it. The downside to that is Toni's an artist so one year you can be up, then the next five you're down. Toni spent too many years doing too much for too many people financially. Mom, you get to move into my mansion in the guest house or in-law suite. There was never a reason to buy her a home that she couldn't pay for.
I agree 👍💯. Spousal Support? A job? Social security? WTH...your dad and I are getting a divorce bc he's been cheating on me...dad moves on with the side piece...mom..ok girls you all are going to have to take care of me for now on 👀
Im confused why Trina should work for Toni for free unless Toni pays all her bills??? If she wasn't paying Trina, she certainly WOULD be paying someone else.
Sad! When you do something for someone do it because its on your heart to do it. Dont get mad if the next person dont kick in. We work for money, pay me for my services. These types of issues have killed many families dont let your blessings kill steal and destroy the family.
This shows that money can ruin a family, and it’s upsetting that they doing Trina like this while the cameras are rolling, who knows what Trina was dealing with! And Toni your sisters are ppl too you need them they needed to be paid period!
Michael and Janet Jackson, Keyshia Cole, etc have been told that they had to stop financially caring for their family because they would've gone broke. One person can't do it all.
So I should work for my sister for free? Waste my time doing something for you for free when you would pay somebody who is not family???? Girl GET YO LIFE
I think the issue was that they were living above their means. The first time Toni went bankrupt and her items were repossessed, I read that she had items such as ralph lauren silverware. Regular walmart silverware would serve the same purpose. I agree the children should come to an agreenent to assist their parents. However, maybe if they downsized, alittle and avoid the "I have to have the best and most expensive of everything" the financial strain maybe limited. And if my siblings did any work for me, I would expect to pay them unless there was absolutely no way I could. Of course, I would inform them of that.
She had Gucci silverware, and based on Toni's biopic she bought it as a "treat to herself," and this might be stirring off topic a little, but according to interviews neither of Toni's bankruptcies were her fault, the first was do to her signing a bad contract, but that may have been avoided if she would've read it, but then again she was green to the industry and didn't know much about anything except singing and church, and her second bankruptcy was because she had to cancel her huge tour in Vegas because she was diagnosed with Lupus and she couldn't work the same way she did. Sorry for the essay, I just wanted to feel special, lol
This happens to all families, siblings should talk about taking care of their parents financially. This would have been best taken care of if both siblings were present, brother inclusive.
It seems utterly ridiculous to expect someone … even family to work for free when they also have children and families to feed . Work should be separate from family responsibilities
Although this is about everyone chipping in to take care of Mrs. E., I don't understand how the victim of adultry (tho it's not my business) gets close to nothing -- even if all the offsprings already grown. It's very wrong of MB Sr.!
Trina shouldn't have to charge you for background singing, you should voluntarily PAY HER for her work! The workman is worthy of his reward - BIBLE FACTS.
Yes
If it was someone else other than family you will pay.
Toni been shady from the jump
@@essencekk how so she's been looking after all of them since 1993 ?
Maybe she's talking about additional funds or pay on top of the salary...🤷🏾♀️
Toni has been taking care of her entire family her whole career
Exactly!
+Tiny Towz I would be done with it.
+Luz Figueroa I wouldn't do that. Now, I can see buying your parents a house and setting them up nicely for retirement, but I wouldn't be Bank of Ariel for the entire family ALL the time.
+kourtneylo ....exactly! THAT'S how she went bankrupt and that's why it's ridiculous when people try to put her in the "jelous sister category"...she has NO reason to be jealous of Tamar or anyone else...she is Toni "THE" Braxton Superstar.
+Tasha Mack You are so right! That's Toni Braxton she can still out shows!!!
It's selfish not to pay someone to work for you because they're family
T. M right because they have to live too!
T. M yes
Toni has financially supported her family from the beginning of her career and continues to without repayment.. I think the least they could do is jump on a track without expecting a cheque 😑🙄
T. M ...i so agree,family or not
Coz Brooke ...lies you tell,Toni sister's supported themslves bfre Toni bcme big.It's only right if you pay your other background singers,then you can pay your sisters for their hard works.And we see now that's problly why Tamar stop singing background,bc she wasn't gttg paid but she's not gonna admit that part.And that's why Toni always wanted her sister's to song backgrd for her so she wouldn't haven't to pay out that extra cash
Trina should get paid. Business is business. Family is Family. Got to know when to separate the two.
Exactly
Exactly i so agree with this family will try to suck you in with that all the time that's how Trina takes care of herself and her family!!!!
Thank you. So, she was suppose to do all that traveling with 2 kids at home and not get paid. And Tamar didnt want Towanda to be paid for working for Toni. Yet, Vince was taking care of her.
Thank you
Naw if it was not for Toni Period
I would pay my sisters if they worked for me.
Thank you I would too!
Yea, I’m right there wit yu.
Then it’s like what kind of conversation is that to hve on television? Somethings shud be private. Trina clearly said she wasn’t financially stable enuff therefore that’s the reason why she was charging Toni for singing. Tamar only got wit Vince bc he had money, gold digger.
Ok but Toni was financial also not that great sometimes. So she needed sonetimes help aswell because she lost alot of her money too.
Willingly
Yeah, me too!
If Toni had hired backup singers outside her family she would have to pay them. You have to consider the amount of hours Trina is putting in singing backup for Toni. Time she could be spending doing something else and getting paid. No one wants to work for free. Family or no family, once you start putting in hours you need to be PAID FOR YOUR WORK.
yes, so then what was the reason why they were not helping support their mother then? If they're getting a salary, so on top of Toni paying them, she's also supporting their mum with everything else?
All facts!
si no fuesen hermanas de Toni que las ha llevado desde el primer momento ¿serian conocidas? Preguntaros esto
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So Trina is supposed to leave her children and her husband to go on the road to with Toni for free????!!
exactly ! WTF !!!?
I thought Gabe had plenty of money. But, it isn't fair to leave Toni holding the entire bag
Exactly nothing is for free I'm sorry I would have song sometimes for free but not all the time🙄 Tony is a superstar she supposed to fit the bill she's the one blessed now everybody else can do more cuz they're individuals now God is good
@@crystalroberts5938 what does Gabe's money has to do with Evelyn?
She has the platform to make her own money and 6 kids to hold her down.
These people are not business savvy...
Tia Tia Trina said Tamar only helped cause she had Vince but Trina had Gabe and he had plenty of money also
I like how Toni validated Tamar's "Before Vincent" statement. Yes, Tamar is a whole trip, but she was helping Toni help their mother long before she was rich herself, while the other sisters basically said "Well, Toni got it. She can do it." No such thing. $10, $50 whatever they could have contributed. You don't have to be rich to help. It's SIX of ya'll...that makes it easier.
Right but Trina still went on to say Tamar got Vincent and he has money 🤦🏽♂️ like she still
missed the point
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Miss E should have moved out of that big ol' house that she lived in by herself. A smaller condo would be just fine. She wouldn't even let Tawannda and her family move in when Gabe practically begged her to. Instead of downsizing so her children wouldn't have to fight over who's paying her bills, she decided to stay in a house that's too big for a single senior citizen. Her fault!!! Not the girls. They all had school age children and bills themselves except Tamar. Miss. E created that mess.
@@cgogetit that dumb she trying to keep up with the Jones or whatever
Exactly and it’s on other clips that Tamar helped Towanda in buying her a car and helping her with a lot of things and She and kids and husband stayed with Tamar and Vince and she stayed with Trina and Trina told her on the show that was time for her and her lil family to go. Then Towanda stole from them . Shoot Towanda in her show showing a house that she has now lost and Tamar finds boots purses coats and clothes that Tamar didn’t know she had. Most responsible my ass. Jealous and a hater.
I love Toni but they deserve to get paid That's on Tamar if she doesn't want to get paid💯
They had their business ventures.
Plus, would you house/clothe/feed/buy cars/take care of each sisters separate families, and pay each a check? That's a burden especially when they ALL knew Toni was having financial problems (bankruptcy TWICE). Only person that helped was Tamar. Before she married the first husband, during, and after. And before Vincent, to which she had been divorced from the first for some years. Then during Vincent.
Truth!!!
Toni held them down when they had nothing. They're her down fall.
Yes, laborer is worthy of its wages
The rule is if you work you expect to get paid. I don’t know anyone who works for free. I also remember when Toni told her sisters they where not going to be her back ground singers anymore, the sisters where so dam happy. Toni is not the easiest person to work for.
well if Trina was Toni's background singer for a living, then yes she should've gotten paid. How else would she make money?
Exactly.If you want people there at your beck and call then yes they need to get paid. How can they hold down a regular job if they have to be available for you. Tamar made money doing background work for other people, the rest of them did not not to mention she was married before to a record producer so of course she had some kind of money.
True
ImperfectbutRedeemed her expenses were paid and her husband had that coin. So I agree that she shouldn't have charged Toni
Gina Jones Exactly
ImperfectbutRedeemed exactly!
This was hard to watch, both Toni and Tamar were millionaires at the time of filming , why shame the other working class siblings.
I’m not even a cheerleader for Tamar but she clearly said she was helping out her mom before Vince came into the picture and Toni backed up her statement.
Toni had declared bankruptcy before they started filming. That's why she said she had financial issues of her own. She really did need the help.
It doesn’t matter, she’s not solely responsible for their mother. It’s 6 of them taking care of 1 woman, if they all pitch in, it won’t be so bad
Trina's "I beg your pardon" is iconic in it's own right.
Something I don’t like about Toni. She complains that her sisters hold her back but expects them to drop everything to always be there for her and she doesn’t think they should be compensated. That’s ridiculous. She should want to pay them because anyone else would want money and a good amount of it.
exactly
Yep. Exactly.
I think Tamar's reaction to them being paid to do back up singing was heated bc Toni has always taken care of her sisters financially since the start of her career (if you watched Behind The Music they all said the same)... so to support them (housing, transportation, luxuries etc) AND pay them is reaching. I understand her point.
I agree
+CHARISSE WOODING-SMITH Also, Toni said that Tamar helped BEFORE vince... I don't know why people don't realize she had a great background singer career lol. I mean she may not have been jet rich but, I know she had some money. tamar is a hustler lol.
+David Brown SHE HAS ALSO SAID SHE WORKED LIKE REGULAR WORK
+CHARISSE WOODING-SMITH I'm sorry but I disagree, just because they're her sisters does not mean she shouldn't have to pay them, before this show and all of its success, weren't none of them chics rich on their own accord, the only one who wouldn't need the money is Tamar because of the fact that she's married to a man with money. How and or why she wasn't charging Toni to do back up before Vince, is beyond me, especially considering how selfish she clearly can be. However, I don't feel its at all selfish to expect a salary, when you're being expected to travel all over the world doing the job that an actual professional back up singer does and would most certainly be paid to do. Are the rest of the sisters also doing the shows for free to?, Traci and Towanda? that's bull crap, if I'm a grown ass adult traveling all over the world with you as a back up singer, you betta dam well be paying me as a back singer, and I don't give a dam if you pushed me out of your coochie. All that money Toni has been making for years for every single show I guarantee you that she gets booked for, and they're not suppose to get shit but a free plane ride and a meal? are you serious? singers of Toni's caliber command huge pay checks for every single show they do, there is no reason why she can pay all of her crew as is expected but use her sisters as free professional back singers and think that's cool. No that's being somewhat selfish and cheap. True, maybe they can charge her less as a sisterly favor, but they most certainly should be given a regular income if they're traveling all over the world with her, these women have families and their own lives. Aint nobody got time to be 35 years old, doing free shows for a well paid mega star lol
+David Brown True!
I beg your pardon !?!
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mxxsade I have always loved Trina, PERIOD 😂😅 my bff in my head 🙋😀
Lol
@@tonicascott3056 Yessss!
the wigs this season
lmaooo
+andrea B they was scruggggglin bruh
Kmsl!! 😂😂😂😂
+andrea B haaaaaaaahahahahahah
Lol.. The wigs were a struggle at the table.
Evelyn a grown ass women she should’ve been supporting herself
Like, they have to drop everything and travel with Toni to sing background for her. That means they can't work a regular 9-5. So that's their job and of course they should get paid. Tamar's attitude is so nasty.
+Beinglively Just because Tamar is running her mouth and saying that doesn't mean it's true. Every child has a personal relationship with their parent and one may not broadcast what they do for their mother to everyone else.
+Davia Walton Toni agreed too. It wasn't Tamar just "running her mouth." And Trina didn't deny it, so she was basically agreeing to what they said. That's why she started with, "This isn't an excuse..." What Tamar and Toni were saying was TRUTH!
Davia Walton I agree!!! They have families....Tamar didn't at that time! Come on be realistic...Toni and Tamar!!! (Before Vince) Tamar was Financially stable so that's why she didn't ask to get paid. The other sister's where not. Bottom line.!!!!
Davia Walton true that’s just what I was about to say maybe tamar is financially comfortable and doesn’t keep the money but the other sisters probably don’t have means of support or income so they need that money
@@djuanhunter6565, it was more than Tamar being financially stable. It was her WILLINGNESS TO HELP. The other siblings didn't even display a willingness to help because Toni was there with the money. A person with a heart to help would have at least communicated the desire. That was not done and that was Toni's frustration. Maybe they couldn't help, but it was more that they didn't WANT to help. And as Toni stated, something as small as an insurance bill...so the siblings couldn't come together to divide that bill? Get out of here! And, knowing Toni's financial situation, because they all knew, the sisters should have cut Toni some slack with charging because that is what families and friends do when they have your best interest at heart. It was never about Toni disliking having to pay; it was more the disrespect they showed Toni. That is very clear and obvious.
Family or not, "B**** better have my money"!!! 🎤+✈=💵💰
WonderMom lol
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@Ms. InspiredDreams and who problem is that? You wouldn't go to your 9 to 5 and let them tell you they going bankrupt so they can't for you for those 2 weeks you worked you gon want yo money
Lmao. YES!
Through 🌧 sleet, hail or ❄️…
*BEFORE VINCE* did y'all hear that? BEFORE VINCE! Tamar was making more before him.
yes because she way with another man with money! lol
I know but she was able to contribute from both of those things...I just think she was a little to hard on Trina making it seem like she was a bad person
No not making more but making money. I think she said before Vince to put it out there that she didn't wait to be a millionaire to help.
April Smith I can see why you say that but I think Tamar is always trying to make it seem as though she is always in the right when it comes to her sisters and that they are less than her if they disagree or do something she doesnt agree with... and honestly Tamar has always been more financially stable than her sisters due to record deals, and some of the men she has dealt with
I agree.
I thought this was a foul conversation to have. Now this here was actually two sisters attacking another sister about money matters; knowing that Trina did not have the income that they possessed. Trina probably did the best she could in giving her mother money for some things, she was not able to buy her mother cars, houses, or pay car notes or car insurance at that time. Trina finances got better when BFV began.
They're right about her pitching on to help their mother, but they are so wrong to suggest she work for free just because she's family.
lol I'm dead...i beg ur pardon...classic trina 😀😜
Toni basically supported her entire family. To make sure your five siblings + their kids and your mom are living comfortably is tough..for anyone. Your telling me after she put them up, paid for some of them to go to college, got them record deals, and gave them the lifestyle they have today; they can't even pay for their moms health insurance or put something towards her bills. Everyone can do something. Tamar did something BEFORE Vince and the other three couldnt? Oh please! Im sure Toni felt/feels used.
+Attitude Prelude ... I agree 1,000 %
+Attitude Prelude I can understand Toni's point of view .But her and Tamar need to realize Trina had a 9-5 job,it doesn't make sense to take off a salaried intermittently to tour with Toni for free with 2 kids to feed.
+passion4posh exactly. I don't understand how Toni can expect free background singing. That's ridiculous.
In my opinion there is no excuse for them not to chip on to help their mom and rely solely on Toni!!! I think they just saw dollar signs and assumed that Toni should automatically become an ATM, which is not right!! Point blank...and the Period!
i always wondered why ms.evelyn didn't work'.Jay-z is a multi millionaire his mother continued to work her 9-5 government job.and one sister worked on Rikers Island.It says alot about their character.My mother would continue working too.I'd be upset with her,because she gave/gives us her all.
How in one breath are you mad at her for not financially providing, then the next breath you're mad at her for getting paid for her work?!?!?!
Mama E is a grown ass woman. If she walked away with nothing, this is a conversation to have with your Pappy! Further, if helping your mother is a burden, don’t help. Get her into a class to manage money and put her on a budget. Those wigs and nails are not cheap. Poor Trina. This was an attack. Also to Toni, if you dragging me all up and through the US on a bus using up my throat, you gona write a check so I can buy something for my children I left at home. If the venue paid you, you need to pay me. Period.
You went off on this comment! I Concur 🫰🏽
Exactly and I love me some Toni “the singer” but she sound crazy asf here 😂
“Using up my throat” is wild 😂😂😂
Right. The audacity of Tamar and, especially, Toni. Like why should they work for free? You get all the money. Then they all up on TV calling Trina out thinking they right when they wrong as two left shoes.
👌Ok now...this scene is very telling of Toni & Tamar's relationship.
They feel superior to the other sisters because they are more financially stable.
Stacy Robinson I think it’s because they paid for and took care of their mom for so long and the others didn’t. It would get annoying plus they’ve all been open about Toni taking care of them financially throughout the years (except for Tamar). It would annoy me too.
@@mielissa100ify Toni and Tamar have that in common. In all fairness the other sisters may not have the means to financially support their mom to that magnitude. It's a reason Toni filed bankruptcy twice
Stacy Robinson yeah but even throw a little money her way. Tamar was paying before she met Vince apparently. None of them could throw their mama a few dollars or cut Toni some slack when it came to paying for them?
@@mielissa100ify Tamar also didn't have kids before Vince where the other sisters did. From what I see Toni chose to financially support her family because she didn't want them to resent her success. That's her choice but it's unfair to force her choice on her sister.
Toni and Tamar helping their mother is great but why can't their mother take care of herself????? Completely taking care of someone is very hard even for someone like Toni. I am glad at least Tamar has helped Toni with the financial responsibility.
Girl bye...family is family but that don't mean I work for u for free and not get a dime...the same way u pay Everybody else to work for u, I want my money too....in fact since we "family" I need to get my check first..Thank u
EXACTLY
@David Pham yo point? Ppl wouldn't even know who toni was if it wasnt for her sisters
@David Pham you must don't know their back story
Toni was clear that Tamar was helping before she was with Vince
That's cool but it's not Trina's responsibility to do what Tamar does. Trina may not have the means to do so nor is she obligated to take care of her mom.
Stacy Robinson nobody was obligated but if the mom needed help. But, they could've done something
@@crystalroberts5938 they may not of had the money. It also depends on what it was the mom needed. Toni is talking about paying her moms monthly car insurance.
@@crystalroberts5938 they could have but should not be chastised for not doing so, if they couldn't afford it.
Stacy Robinson true and agree but to have all of the stress on one sister isn't fair
That's so ridiculous! She is a background singer and deserves to be paid! If Tamar's husband is rich and She doesn't need the money, that's her business! But Trina has the right to be paid for her work as a background singer, she has to be available for Toni all the time to sing for Toni and it doesn't " make sense " to get paid for that?! Who does that?!
Preach
Frankie NS but Toni takes care of them financially already... so she needs to choose one.
I'm trying to figure out where are the sisters income gonna come from if Toni doesn't pay them. They have families and need to support them. If she had other background singers she would have to pay them. I understand not paying them as much as she would other background singers but come on! it goes both ways. She would pay someone else why not keep the money in the family?
I think she's talking about how in the past maybe certain siblings didn't try too much to depend on other means on income cuz they figured they would just go the easy route by working with Toni. And Toni is such a sweetheart that she tried as long as humanly possible to provide for everybody in her family as well as her kids and the husband who wasn't working during the latter part of their time together. Especially when Toni got sicker and sicker with Lupus, had financial issues herself, and needed family to help out some, she wasn't getting that and still carried that financial burden because she loves them so much. She wasn't asking them for money -- she was just asking for them to maybe ease up on their financial demands since she was struggling herself! After allllll those years of being the bank for the fam, ain't much to ask for. So I get why Toni is hurt. Make complete damn sense to me!
Oh, in addition to my last comment...
The sisters could've gotten other paying jobs. It's not like Toni was having them working every day of the year -- not even close! Especially when she got sick, she wasn't working that much at all. At least once the Lupus really started taking its toll and she couldn't work as much, I 100 percent feel they shouldn't have asked for much money for helping Toni out, if any at all. And I would be willing to bet that Toni would STILL pay them because of the kind thoughtfulness, the feature alone, and the willingness to do that for their sister in need. Like come on now!
+Jessica Marie My bad for the typo. Meant to write "GESTURE" instead of "feature."
Nope I'm not for that, I think she should pay them as much as background singers. I think it's unrealistic and unfair to think that people can come at your beck and call and not have a way to support themselves because you demand so much of their time and then not want to pay them or make them feel bad for you paying them. No. At the end of the day if you don't want to pay them ask them to do it every once in a while or not at all, if you don't want to pay people then don't ask them to come.
They had their business ventures.
Plus, would you house/clothe/feed/buy cars/take care of each sisters separate families, and pay each a check? That's a burden especially when they ALL knew Toni was having financial problems (bankruptcy TWICE). Only person that helped was Tamar. Before she married the first husband, during, and after. And before Vincent, to which she had been divorced from the first for some years. Then during Vincent.
Trina had a husband and two children; Tamar was single and had no children... why SHOULD Trina leave her children at home, or with a sitter... leave her husband to take care of his step-children and travel all over the states with Toni Braxton and come back home with nothing? Why WOULD she? Toni got paid... the singers to the right and the left got paid... the person who did her hair got paid... But Trina should've stood there and sung for a meal and a hotel stay and be OK with that? She should've charged her because she was paying everyone else and, especially, if she had to leave her family to sing. It's not like she called her and said, "Girl, I'm going to be at JuJu's on 11th avenue... can you come sing with me tonight?" every blue moon!
Lastly, why was it Trina's responsibility to take care of their mother when she was able bodied? She didn't work because she didn't want to, not because she fell and was riding around in an electric wheelchair! Toni took care of her mother because she was a millionaire and she wanted to take care of her mother - Kudos... but, Trina had a husband and two children... Tracy had a husband and a child. Tawanda was an executive assistant - they had regular lives with regular folk bills and expensive assed kids. Maybe they couldn't take care of their mother and since Toni was the millionaire who WANTED to do it because it didn't affect her bottom line, they let her handle it... but don't throw it in folks faces when you get broke.
You explained that very clear 👌
Well said
The mother should not rely on children, grown, wealthy, middle class or poor. She should’ve had something after 30 years in a marriage. You mean to tell me she didn’t have a nest egg to lean on? It’s not her children’s responsibility to pay her bills. When she found out her husband was creeping, she should’ve started saving then, 9 years prior to the divorce. They didn’t even divorce immediately when she found out. It was almost a decade later. The fish rots from the head. She has created so much drama and unnecessary strife.
And Mama Braxton is a Capricorn. It's highly unlikely someone like that wouldn't have the practical sewn up from the gate. smh
Toni is the Terri from soul food had her paying for EVERYTHING 😂
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Girl, these first season clips are a trip. From hair and make-up all the way to topics. LOL!
$ isn't the only way to be of help!
True. Exactly.
I feel bad for Trina. Tamar is married to a millionaire so she's financially stable and doesn't need the money. Trina wasn't as lucky and they're dogging her out for getting paid to WORK. Smh.
If you listen they are talking about Tamar helping a lot before Vince
+Jarrod Gillespie I heard that and that's great but that's still no reason to eat your sister out like that about money on national tv. Who brags about helping their parents anyway. Trina probably was barely making it herself back in the day before this show. She has children, etc. Tamar didn't have children back then so it was probably easier for her to give more as opposed to the others and Toni can help a lot, for obvious reasons lol.
Davia Walton I guess they were giving her all that trouble cause gabe made ALOT of money when they were together
+Jarrod Gillespie Yup!
But Gabe is paid....LOL Gabe has plenty of money
I think it's only right that they get paid. Doing shows take a lot of work and rehearsals, plus they have their own families to take care of. Not everyone has a rich husband to supply them with everything.
U could pay ONE MONTH OF INSURANCE!! They are not STRUGGLING THAT MUCH!! Mom deserves that..She dealt with infidelity and continued to raise 5 kids alone...putting her kids above her own needs. She raised REALLY GREAT CHILDREN!!
They had their business ventures.
Plus, would you house/clothe/feed/buy cars/take care of each sisters separate families, and pay each a check? That's a burden especially when they ALL knew Toni was having financial problems (bankruptcy TWICE). Only person that helped was Tamar. Before she married the first husband, during, and after. And before Vincent, to which she had been divorced from the first for some years. Then during Vincent.
@@thomasinashelton7019They were grown and gone when the mother and father divorced. That’s no excuse. She had 30 plus years to have some sort of nest egg. Even if they didn’t get divorced, he could’ve passed away and she would’ve figured it out. Solely leaning on your kids because your husband cheated is a sorry excuse. There’s worse things.
Yes, Toni does need to pay for work. The sister's lives shouldn't revolve around Toni's goals and dreams. Tours take weeks, sometimes even months. People have their own live and responsibilities, which include finances. Free for all ain't it. The only reason Tamar don't care about the money is because she is spoiled rotten by her rich husband. Bet she would want a check if she wasn't with Vince before she blew up from the show. I'm just saying....
you sure is right but the reason why toni did not pay her sisters is because when she would ask Tamar, Traci, And Trina did they want to get paid they told her no because she was there sister and that they knew the struggles that she was going through, also the only person she did pay was Towanda because Towanda was her personal assistant.
They had their business ventures.
Plus, would you house/clothe/feed/buy cars/take care of each sisters separate families, and pay each a check? That's a burden especially when they ALL knew Toni was having financial problems (bankruptcy TWICE). Only person that helped was Tamar. Before she married the first husband, during, and after. And before Vincent, to which she had been divorced from the first for some years. Then during Vincent.
ssbell2011jcsu I agree
If their mom wasn't at retirement age why didn't she get a job
That part. It’s one thing to help your parents, it’s another to foot all their bills .
Exactly.
Your parents foot all your bills at one time or more
@@rachelhemphill3352when you are a child. That was their responsibility as a parent. When you signed up to be a parent, you signed for all bills until they became self sufficient, I.e an adult. Their mother had decades to save something. No one should be footing all of anyone’s bills unless they are millionaire or billionaire status.
They feel there successful enough to help there mom because of how the divorce went first of all and there mom as a parent has always been there for them so to show there appreciation they do for there mom so she want have to work people today love your parents
Toni should pay her sister's when they perform. If she gotten anyone else they would have to be compensated, so why not her sisters.
I get Trina sometimes you have to start charging family because they take your free service for granted sometimes
Rip to queen Tracy
How do we know Trina wasn't giving her mother cash?
Exactly! The girl probably has but doesn't broadcast it on a microphone like Tamar is doing lol.
+Davia Walton Tamar didn't bring it up. TONI DID. So with your mindset, it was TONI who was broadcasting it on a microphone. Everyone is so quick to hate on Tamar every time when she almost always has valid points. Her personality and delivery is just a turn-off to some, making them automatically rule out any damn thing she got to say. Shame.
Jessica Marie
Tamar ruled out what Jeannie Mai had to say...
tamar just asked how much she gave and she never answered lol
They forget about this stuff. Tamar stay helping her family but y'all call her selfish. Have several seats
-Tamar looking at her self in the knife silver ware💀
Tamar is so extra.😊
this is why family and buisness do not mix
PS who is watching in 2017
First of all trina, towanda and traci has family why the hell they gonna help with ms e's expanses!?! Yeah thats their mother but can't see get a job? Isn't she on some sort of retirement plan? Oh plz!
I didn't like how they ganged up on Trina. It made sense for Trina to charge, hell she has two kids. Tamar had no children at that time and was only obligated to herself.
There is no freaking way I'm working for someone family or not and not getting paid! TONI should be ashamed of herself
Tamar been waiting to bring that up! and for what? taking care of your mom financially and background singing are two different areas. Trina and Towanda have families, Tamar is taken care of. Of course you wouldn't charge Toni because you essentially don't have to work for a living.
Exactly 💯
I get where Toni is coming from but really she need to be having this conversation w/ Ms. E! Nothing wrong with helping your mom but when you are helping to the point that it’s lands you in bankruptcy it’s time to cut the strings. My mom wouldn’t even allow me to finance her life to the point I’m in bankruptcy🤷🏽♀️
Business is business. What does a blood line running through you both have to do with you leaving your family to go on tour to help Toni out. She would be paying back up singers anyway. People have this mentality that with family you have to give and give until you have no more. Thats not the case.
So true.
dsb188 ...right
Exactly. Smh.
Tamar was so extra lmfao i love it
You'd pay a stranger though
EXACTLY. She would NOT have a choice or say in the matter.
hell why the mama living on her own expecting someone to 'cut a check'? You better live with me mama other than that you on your own mama
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Just because they are family doesn't mean you can have them do what you want them to do for free.
I get both sides of this. Trina has to hit the road and basically she needs money to feed her babies. It's very easy for Tamer to cut checks, she has a husband that is very wealthy
Tamar said this started BEFORE Vince but you are right.
Jordan Cooper Yeah I got that part as well but now she can really take care of mom because her and Vince are rolling in money. Trina doesn't have a steady singing career like Toni and Tamar
+Yvonne Watkins Ew. Ain't nothing wrong with the thought of kids taking are of their parents as they are getting older, whether they are sick, able-bodied, what have you. Parents take care of their kids and raise them, provide for them, do all they can to ensure they become good men and women. Good, loving, responsible children should have an innate desire to take care of their parents when they get older. Even a little bit helps as someone else was saying, as it's especially the thought that counts. Even when I was and am struggling, I ALWAYS help my loved ones -- no matter what. Come on, now, that should be a given!!!
Yaya Yaya Trina husband makes a lot of money
Tamar also had another husband in the business before Vince
Towanda's husband doesn't work and apparently, from what I've seen on the shows, never has steady employment. Clearly, Towanda needs to get paid for whatever work she does for Toni. If Trina needs the money, then she has a right to get paid. If Toni didn't want to pay them (like she'd pay other back up singers) then she should have said so. Don't come in after the fact and act brand new.
The agreement between Toni and Trina or Toni and Towanda is none of Tamar's business. Point blank period. Now, what they do financially to help their mother (who has been a good/real mother to them) they need to discuss together but whether or not they get paid by Toni? Nunnya.
If towanda is always running after toni, who is gonna take care if the kids? Andre. How can he work. The kids need attention, nurture, care, and the caretaker needs rest
At 50 seconds when Trina is talking Tamar is lookin like I don't even want to hear excuses lol
Trina is so pretty
I think Toni should've come to her family with an arrangement before the resentment set in.
I beg your pardon 😂😂
She should CHARGE Her for Singing WTF if it was a Stranger you'd pay
And Tamar you need to hush Cause your shit is in the dumps now
I wanna know why Toni was the only one who had to take on her mother's financial burdens when she was going through her own financial problems. Toni had to filed bankruptcy twice. That's not right. I thought Fantasia had some leeching ass people in her family but damn!!!
She wasn't the only one. Tamar helped as well.
She said it was her and Tamar ( before she was with Vince).
Toni was on Oprah speaking about how she purchased high-priced items and had an accountant who stole from her that led to her becoming bankrupt twice.
Shit, IDK about this one. I've been asking why the mom doesn't work or stopped doing hair, etc. If you talked into giving up her business to help you, you shouldn't gripe about covering her expenses. I know for a fact when the money was great, Toni had her mansion and she bought a home for her mom as well. I get it. The downside to that is Toni's an artist so one year you can be up, then the next five you're down. Toni spent too many years doing too much for too many people financially. Mom, you get to move into my mansion in the guest house or in-law suite. There was never a reason to buy her a home that she couldn't pay for.
Seoul Goode true mom could or should have of a gig she not that old and i Dont think she is babysitting
I agree 👍💯. Spousal Support? A job? Social security? WTH...your dad and I are getting a divorce bc he's been cheating on me...dad moves on with the side piece...mom..ok girls you all are going to have to take care of me for now on 👀
Tamar talking about selfish 🤣🤣🤣The nerve.
Veronica Cooper lol true shes the worse lol
Im confused why Trina should work for Toni for free unless Toni pays all her bills??? If she wasn't paying Trina, she certainly WOULD be paying someone else.
Lol I hate when Toni wears long hair she should stick to short hair😍😍her face is perfect for it👏👏♥
Some of the long ones don look good like in this episode
I feel like if you working you should get paid! It ain't selfish if they want to get paid for their service
Sad! When you do something for someone do it because its on your heart to do it. Dont get mad if the next person dont kick in. We work for money, pay me for my services. These types of issues have killed many families dont let your blessings kill steal and destroy the family.
If Toni is getting paid for her singing, then her sisters should also get paid for their singing.
Key words...BEFORE VINCE
Y’all gotta realize Toni was going through financial issues at the moment and she still has bills to pay sooo...........
Sooo mama E gotta understand that..
Where is Evelyn's money though? Toni has been taking care of her (and the rest) for years and has opened so many opportunities
Whether their finances are doing good or bad Trina & Towanda ain't fenta cut a check to help out with anything
I love Tamar! Usually I can't stand EXTRA personalities but her I freakin love
Because it’s genuine.
Oh.
This shows that money can ruin a family, and it’s upsetting that they doing Trina like this while the cameras are rolling, who knows what Trina was dealing with! And Toni your sisters are ppl too you need them they needed to be paid period!
There goes Tamar overreacting again 😂👊🏾 that's why mixing business with family is a horrible idea
Aint no way I'm singing background for someone and everybody (non family related) in the band and crew getting paid but me.
OK! Especially, not the legendary Toni Braxton.
Me either.
Yep.
Michael and Janet Jackson, Keyshia Cole, etc have been told that they had to stop financially caring for their family because they would've gone broke. One person can't do it all.
So I should work for my sister for free? Waste my time doing something for you for free when you would pay somebody who is not family???? Girl GET YO LIFE
All her sister feeds off of her. I feel sorry for Toni
We can all agree Tamars Karma came full swing 2017-2020
Toni Braxton made alot of money 💰, Tamar's husband has money.
Toni and Tamar was wrong
Pay her, it's business not personal. She got bills too.
I think the issue was that they were living above their means. The first time Toni went bankrupt and her items were repossessed, I read that she had items such as ralph lauren silverware. Regular walmart silverware would serve the same purpose. I agree the children should come to an agreenent to assist their parents. However, maybe if they downsized, alittle and avoid the "I have to have the best and most expensive of everything" the financial strain maybe limited. And if my siblings did any work for me, I would expect to pay them unless there was absolutely no way I could. Of course, I would inform them of that.
She had Gucci silverware, and based on Toni's biopic she bought it as a "treat to herself," and this might be stirring off topic a little, but according to interviews neither of Toni's bankruptcies were her fault, the first was do to her signing a bad contract, but that may have been avoided if she would've read it, but then again she was green to the industry and didn't know much about anything except singing and church, and her second bankruptcy was because she had to cancel her huge tour in Vegas because she was diagnosed with Lupus and she couldn't work the same way she did.
Sorry for the essay, I just wanted to feel special, lol
I agree with you a 100%
I love tamar in season one and two, she cracked me up! she has changed, after all she is a mother now, and she has more fame.
This happens to all families, siblings should talk about taking care of their parents financially. This would have been best taken care of if both siblings were present, brother inclusive.
u should charge y wouldn't you charge you are spending time away from your family n a paying job
That’s strange to not want to pay anybody who’s working for you. Family or not.
Toni should’ve just hired professional backup singers. Problem solved.
her sisters voice compliment hers alot better lol
LBloggie Awakened yes its a family thing
I think Toni is feeling some type of way for having to pay her sisters is because she's done so much for them i.e. buying them cars, clothes, etc.
Trina looks SOOOO beautiful here
It seems utterly ridiculous to expect someone … even family to work for free when they also have children and families to feed . Work should be separate from family responsibilities
Although this is about everyone chipping in to take care of Mrs. E., I don't understand how the victim of adultry (tho it's not my business) gets close to nothing -- even if all the offsprings already grown. It's very wrong of MB Sr.!
+Tiny Towz I'm not too fond of MB Sr.
Hmmmmmmmm.
Tamar had Vince money back then, she could afford it.
Why in the world are the children supporting their grown mother? And who works for free? Insane to expect anyone to work for free.
People have bills and kids to feed ,Trina don’t feel bad for taking care of your priorities as a mother!