Inside the world of rugby agents - Ardie Savea meets Roc Nation | Changing the Game

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  • Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
  • Episode 2 of Changing the Game follows Roc Nation, the innovative entertainment agency which is managing the likes of Cheslin Kolbe, Maro Itoje and Ardie Savea. This episode follows their president Michael Yormark as he travels to South Africa to strategise with his clients. #ChangingTheGame
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 204

  • @keevee09
    @keevee09 Рік тому +94

    Call me old school, but always have grounded mates close at hand when the Smile Team turns up to promise you riches.

    • @localmo88
      @localmo88 Рік тому +5

      100.

    • @havoc2all356
      @havoc2all356 Рік тому +2

      Truth!!!!! Them guys looked like they were looking right through him and seeing nothing but dollars in their pockets!!!

    • @francis1836
      @francis1836 Рік тому

      Yes

  • @kiwimark3875
    @kiwimark3875 Рік тому +64

    Never trust someone that wears a suit that tight and calls everyone 'my brother'. DJ Kalid is his Muse OMFG

  • @rugbymotiv8820
    @rugbymotiv8820 Рік тому +16

    Yeah i don’t trust this bloke at all

  • @jzkramer
    @jzkramer Рік тому +15

    Massive CRINGE!

  • @seamus9750
    @seamus9750 Рік тому +19

    Not sure this yank is going to be good for Bok rugby

  • @James-wl3pg
    @James-wl3pg Рік тому +12

    So cringy

  • @hemitam3651
    @hemitam3651 Рік тому +50

    7:28 Goes in on the toast 7:34 Drop the butter on the floor in front of the prospective new client, the boss and the camera. 7:39 Pretend to spread the butter you dropped and hope no one notice.

    • @ishtaq
      @ishtaq Рік тому +2

      😂 what foolery!

    • @HyinaMufasa13
      @HyinaMufasa13 Рік тому

      😂😂😂

    • @johnappleseed2558
      @johnappleseed2558 Рік тому

      Dude you can see the butter on the ground once he dropped it ... then it suddenly disappeared lol

    • @hemitam3651
      @hemitam3651 Рік тому +1

      @@johnappleseed2558 you can actually hear a llittle thud when it hits the ground 💀

    • @chichikimeli
      @chichikimeli Рік тому +1

      both ardie and beast even react to it, you can see beast holding his hat and ardie trying very hard to hold in a laugh at the end they hold each other and laugh probably they are great bread friends

  • @dabzvapelord
    @dabzvapelord Рік тому +12

    this dude feels slimey.

  • @Notimportant361
    @Notimportant361 Рік тому +12

    Cringe

  • @hellovanite
    @hellovanite Рік тому +37

    Stay away from the devil Ardie

    • @vaafiso7637
      @vaafiso7637 Рік тому

      Goosebumps

    • @ChyeahWill
      @ChyeahWill Рік тому

      😂😂 shut up man, stop hating on successful people

    • @hellovanite
      @hellovanite Рік тому +1

      @@ChyeahWill You got no I fkn idea bro

    • @cullyx2913
      @cullyx2913 Рік тому

      😂😂😂

    • @ieruleilua902
      @ieruleilua902 Рік тому

      Ardie ain’t no devil he’s a angel

  • @rugbymotiv8820
    @rugbymotiv8820 Рік тому +45

    If I ever need to show someone what a snake oil salesman is, I’ll show them Michael Yormack

    • @matgbx
      @matgbx Рік тому +3

      haha 1000%

    • @HyinaMufasa13
      @HyinaMufasa13 Рік тому +3

      When did u ever sign a deal with him?

    • @leila9372
      @leila9372 Рік тому

      @@HyinaMufasa13 😂😂😂😂😂😂bro. Always wannabes like these guys thinking they know these guys personally 😂😂😂😂 bet you none of these bums ever played pro

    • @mdavidom5903
      @mdavidom5903 Рік тому +1

      @@HyinaMufasa13 a like just for ur name....😆😆

    • @HyinaMufasa13
      @HyinaMufasa13 Рік тому

      @@mdavidom5903 ? What my name got do with getting a deal lol

  • @ishtaq
    @ishtaq Рік тому +13

    When your agents are rocking $35k watches, who’s making the money? They need to make money with re-negotiations and transfers

  • @lukasmilet2028
    @lukasmilet2028 Рік тому +40

    This is more than worrying! Watching this does not give any good vibe or feeling at all. Hope i am wrong but i would not at all trust these people!!! Money is for sure tempting but it is not worth to sell your soul.

    • @Gilescowdemdem
      @Gilescowdemdem Рік тому +5

      How are they selling their soul?

    • @michaeladama7788
      @michaeladama7788 Рік тому +7

      Oh please be quiet. These men risk their health playing this sport. Now granted they knowingly decide to do this. I’m all for players getting paid as much as they can whilst they can.

    • @renegadeone2058
      @renegadeone2058 Рік тому +1

      @@Gilescowdemdem when U understand this industry then U will know 👍

    • @Gilescowdemdem
      @Gilescowdemdem Рік тому +2

      @@renegadeone2058 I've literally worked in talent management for 10 years so I'm very familiar

    • @bpswank429
      @bpswank429 Рік тому +1

      @@Gilescowdemdem lol stop the cap then you obviously been working with Z listers 😂

  • @tonypaopao6169
    @tonypaopao6169 Рік тому +8

    The devil creepin in to rugby now

    • @bpswank429
      @bpswank429 Рік тому +1

      It was just a matter of time

  • @Hondo1126
    @Hondo1126 Рік тому +4

    Disgusted by this. Just slime from start to finish.

  • @jessychirenge
    @jessychirenge Рік тому +12

    This will give the Kardashians(all the unessary drama and pauses) a run for their money 😭idk what to think. These players should have a lawyer present or something that they know exactly what contracts they signing. Hopefully, 5 years from now, RugbyPass isn't doing a documentary on rugby agent scams on Roc Nation😬

  • @TheKing129129
    @TheKing129129 Рік тому +32

    Michael may not be the most trustworthy guy out there, but if he’s bringing opportunities and better pay to our biggest name rugby players - that’s good!

    • @TheSiyasss
      @TheSiyasss Рік тому +1

      Why is he not?

    • @lukask4498
      @lukask4498 Рік тому +10

      I feel the same way, his speach at the beginning and how he speaks on behalf of everyone sounds so rehersed and fake. I would rather hear Jerry Maguire quotes lol. Im not saying he's not doing a great job for the players. Just all the politically correct and crafted statements to make him look as "mother Teresa" when we all know its about the money (nothing wrong with that).

  • @coleheketoa
    @coleheketoa Рік тому +9

    The All Blacks players are getting ripped off. These managers will ruin the game

  • @turkishdelight7083
    @turkishdelight7083 Рік тому +13

    Without equal THE worst thing that has ever or could ever happen to rugby is this.

  • @jasoncampbell9966
    @jasoncampbell9966 Рік тому +4

    Get what you can while you can, short career. New Zealand rugby players are under paid.

  • @jasonshaun6657
    @jasonshaun6657 Рік тому +6

    Wearing that loud balenciaga jersey is the first thing you see. As long as he gets the chaps $$$ and brings money in, all good. Just reminds me of a used car salesman.

  • @mlele7372
    @mlele7372 Рік тому +7

    About the same standard as the other reality shows out there

  • @billfleming4370
    @billfleming4370 Рік тому +15

    Rugby doesn't need big talking agents like this guy..... humility and respect, the foundations of rugby which make it unique vs other sports

    • @couplegrands5189
      @couplegrands5189 Рік тому +5

      Rugby does need big talking agents! These players main focus should be making the most money they can while they can and invest their earnings!

    • @billfleming4370
      @billfleming4370 Рік тому

      @@couplegrands5189 its good in a sense that there is a shake up and that the players have more say however if making money is the players number 1 goal then the game will turn to shite

  • @AliceDianaa
    @AliceDianaa Рік тому +31

    Forgive me if I’m being naive, but doesn’t the game need to grow before the players can get footballer salaries? Don’t get me wrong, these boys deserve the big bucks and a lot of looking after given how hard they work and the safety aspects of the game. I can’t help but think paying too few people too much could demolish the game, but happy to listen to what experts have to say!

    • @bradleylefika9209
      @bradleylefika9209 Рік тому +9

      Not sure which country you live but rugby is probably a small sport in the US, everywhere else in the world its big

    • @Josh-ud1vr
      @Josh-ud1vr Рік тому +3

      ​@@bradleylefika9209 remember to contrast rugby to football - unfortunately it's pretty small and not all that popular globally, yet

    • @ibomb6232
      @ibomb6232 Рік тому +1

      @@Josh-ud1vr it's big in Europe and the southern hemisphere.

    • @ipman01tuaman60
      @ipman01tuaman60 Рік тому +3

      Roc nation saw a great opportunity and a smart move to get in this market because it’s big in United Kingdom and Europe. Also Southern Hemisphere Nations and Japan. USA needs to host a rugby World Cup just like Japan did in order to grow and catch up to the rest of the world.

    • @sheldoncooper0
      @sheldoncooper0 Рік тому +1

      @@bradleylefika9209 lol yeah and that’s where the moneys at.
      Any sport that’s big in the US are the highest paid atheletes. Think NBA, boxing etc.
      Mike Tyson, Floyd may weather etc.
      Tyson got paid 30-40 million per fight in his peak. That’s more than what Jonah lomu got paid in his entire career.
      Not to mention that even in Europe and Asia, soccer is way bigger than rugby by a long shot.

  • @Dunnerstunner369
    @Dunnerstunner369 Рік тому +5

    "Keys to success from DJ Khaled" - he's a true athlete that guy lol

  • @Reformed1-e1c
    @Reformed1-e1c Рік тому +15

    It's concerning for these athletes going in these meetings on their own. I understand it's just a meet and greet, lawyers are only there for contract signing. However, they need a support person with them in these meetings. It's a good experience for them to build their post rugby career.

    • @drinkingup2157
      @drinkingup2157 Рік тому +1

      Its very cleverly suggested that they don't need to come in with a friend and if they were to do so it would indicate mistrust on their part as we are all friends here.

    • @Reformed1-e1c
      @Reformed1-e1c Рік тому

      @@drinkingup2157 I agree. These athletes would go on and learn that going to these meetings, they would need a good friend to go with them. If that doesn't work, best thing is never agree or sign anything in those meetings.

    • @ashleymaasdorp9591
      @ashleymaasdorp9591 Рік тому +2

      Take an example of Jordan Hendricks what does he know of the business and contract world he plays for a club the lions yes they are paid...but I just feel fir someone that young to go up wolf in sheep clothes he needed someone their to support him...

  • @hs4a085
    @hs4a085 Рік тому +2

    These guys watch too much Ballers!! Lol

  • @bradleylefika9209
    @bradleylefika9209 Рік тому +5

    Rugby Players deserve this and more! I had an aspiring rugby career however got cut short due to torn knee ligaments, broken clavicle and a back operation. Didn't get the opportunity to make money. If the money is there, pay the players

  • @35Hoopsfan
    @35Hoopsfan Рік тому +1

    Nothing this dude actually says makes any sense... Its all just superficial BS. No substance to what he says & there is no vision either.

  • @noahoani7770
    @noahoani7770 Рік тому +4

    He’s a yank it all about money for him, he doesn’t care about the player

    • @hellovanite
      @hellovanite Рік тому +1

      This guy would mean the end of the all blacks

    • @usarugbyleagueunionfan
      @usarugbyleagueunionfan Рік тому

      I'm a Yank and not a fan of this company. I want the game to grow. I just don't want it to turn into the NFL. Yanks will fall in love with the humbleness of Rugby players.

    • @mudguts6785
      @mudguts6785 Рік тому

      100% couldnt trust this guy as far as u can throw him.
      DJ khaled is my guy🤣🤣Good you can have him overweight overrated dj.

  • @kelsyn21
    @kelsyn21 Рік тому +1

    this mans boy is DJ khalid, he is the don king of hip hop absolute leech who takes advantage of the music artist.......oohhhh i see lol

  • @kiwishamoo6494
    @kiwishamoo6494 Рік тому +3

    Duplicitous middlemen

  • @rapid1010
    @rapid1010 Рік тому +1

    The guy speaks like a badly written disney movie, all cliches and nothing original.

  • @JohnHirsch88
    @JohnHirsch88 Місяць тому +1

    jesus this is cringey

  • @andrewmckeag2025
    @andrewmckeag2025 Рік тому +12

    It’s great that someone is trying to help rugby players boost their profile and all but the professional game need a whole restructuring. Two clubs in the premiership bust and two more bout to follow suit. We’ll end up with less teams, less games and less money in the global game and only a few rich players and agents left at the end of it all. Maybe it would be better to grow the global game as a whole so we don’t milk it dry first…..

    • @mdavidom5903
      @mdavidom5903 Рік тому

      Curious, since I don’t follow the premiership too closely...which other two are going under?

    • @andrewmckeag2025
      @andrewmckeag2025 Рік тому +1

      @@mdavidom5903 London Irish and Newcastle are both reportedly at risk after poor results and low fan attendance

    • @johnappleseed2558
      @johnappleseed2558 Рік тому

      Yes indeed it's great for the game but how do you think roc nation is going to contribute in boosting rugby popularity ? Invite roc nation music artists to perform weekly at the super 12? Dj Khaled, jay z? ect... 😆

    • @tooxtalivai0690
      @tooxtalivai0690 Рік тому

      These agencies don’t care it’s all about Branding and squeezing $$$$$

  • @HighBoss
    @HighBoss Рік тому +1

    Bahaha this is like a cheesy soap opera. This agent bloke just oozes greasy snake energy. He probably still does a good job for his players but itd be hard to listen to all the blather during meetings 🤣

  • @andrewthegraciouslordrober327
    @andrewthegraciouslordrober327 Рік тому +1

    God, what a bunch of scumbags. They want to "renegotiate" a contract that has already been agreed and signed by both sides? Guess who will profit. Guess whose reputation will suffer?

  • @lukecarter7776
    @lukecarter7776 Рік тому +7

    This is GREAT for rugby. Anyone who thinks otherwise doesn’t care about our players making money and staying in SA. Why do you think everyone leaves to Japan FFS 😂
    Let’s make SA rugby 🏉 a powerhouse with rugby superstars.
    Game will develop and so will the boks.
    Thank you RocNation

    • @johnappleseed2558
      @johnappleseed2558 Рік тому

      How do u think roc nation will build up popularity worldwide ? Have these boys on their music videos ? Invite jay z and Beyonce and DJ Khaled perform weekly in the rugby super 12 ? 😆 these boys are being recycled ♻️ in by the matrix . If they had the right mindset they would monetise themselves

  • @mickconners9377
    @mickconners9377 Рік тому +4

    American capitalism at its worst

  • @droctagon3k
    @droctagon3k Рік тому +1

    "Im working as hard or harder than they are" If he's talking about the players, then no he is not.

  • @albert_Zaiden23
    @albert_Zaiden23 Рік тому +1

    Players growing bigger than the game itself? Work on growing the interest in the sport before looking at growing players salaries

    • @jonwayne7685
      @jonwayne7685 Рік тому

      They’re doing that too . Rocnation is actually a consultant to some rugby leagues . I don’t know how they would help though

  • @brianlalor
    @brianlalor Рік тому +1

    So sad to see this world.

  • @kaeso101
    @kaeso101 Рік тому

    Looking at the comment section..I can tell this is a controversial subject

  • @mickysunnyraj7523
    @mickysunnyraj7523 Рік тому +1

    This plays out like an episode of isidingo.

  • @njabulothabethe5022
    @njabulothabethe5022 Рік тому +6

    These comments are just disappointing how else is rugby supposed to grow 🙄

    • @lukask4498
      @lukask4498 Рік тому

      Its not about the agent and what to he does. Rugby will need ppl like him. Its about this 9 min jerk fest video. So cringi, we all know that agent is about the money and not about all that fake BS in his speeches. Feels like this was paid by him and his company to promote him self, not about rugby at all.

    • @sammacculloch446
      @sammacculloch446 Рік тому +6

      How is this helping exactly??

    • @hellovanite
      @hellovanite Рік тому

      This is just middlemen creating money for themselves... My only interest is New Zealand domestic rugby and these leeches aren't it

    • @philmorris3872
      @philmorris3872 Рік тому

      This is not about growing rugby at all. It is about the monopoly of talent and everything surrounding it including sponsorships, other commercial considerations. Once you have sold your soul, they control you and everything you do. If they tell you to take a knee to Satan...guess what ! And that slime ball phoning Ardie Savea....total cringe.
      If something smells, it is usually because something stinking is in the room and this is all one big Yank filled stink!

    • @andilentobekomadlala5227
      @andilentobekomadlala5227 Рік тому +1

      @@sammacculloch446 helping the players prepare for life after the game.

  • @WesleyBaartman
    @WesleyBaartman Місяць тому

    Joh this Micheal guy sounds like that sales training manager at global direct, he is also from America, slick talkers

  • @sinenhlanhlamlondo8013
    @sinenhlanhlamlondo8013 4 місяці тому

    Can you imagine Savea signing for a South African franchise?

  • @joshuablackburn5770
    @joshuablackburn5770 Рік тому

    Why does the narration always come while the people are talking??? Why can't it just be during the scenes where there's no dialogue? It's no annoying because we want to hear what's being said. If it was not intended for us to hear, than we shouldn't be able to still hear what's being said while the narrator is speaking.

  • @parkiwi4787
    @parkiwi4787 Рік тому +7

    It's all about the commission, screw the players.

    • @archiebobo
      @archiebobo Рік тому

      They both get money. What do you expect?

  • @Wilna6734
    @Wilna6734 Рік тому

    I guarantee you, jayz don't know nothing about rugby

  • @rickbarnes6898
    @rickbarnes6898 Рік тому

    This was terrible. Not what rugby needs

  • @Flebeb
    @Flebeb Рік тому +1

    great acting lads

  • @christianbryant6764
    @christianbryant6764 Рік тому +1

    Greasy businessman

  • @stara8710
    @stara8710 Рік тому +1

    we need that next episode

  • @Getmossed875
    @Getmossed875 Місяць тому

    Next episode

  • @ermannosorricchiodivalfort4905

    nope, thanks

  • @mikestrutter1274
    @mikestrutter1274 Рік тому

    Why pay these clowns anything? .... "its all about supporting our clients" correction... its all about the money!

  • @OG-HUSTLA
    @OG-HUSTLA Рік тому

    Everyone needs Serena n Venus Williams dad when dealing w people like Michael

  • @cullyx2913
    @cullyx2913 Рік тому

    👀 👀 jaysus f. Hell

  • @wrightyy
    @wrightyy Рік тому

    Roc Nation have done as much for rugby as the CVC deal did for the premiership; nothing. They're an agency. They're in it for themselves and themselves alone.

  • @tpurr
    @tpurr Рік тому

    Lame

  • @Lekushitesolitaire
    @Lekushitesolitaire Рік тому

    WTF IS THAT ? This trick maybe work for us atletes but man. Did they think this us vibe of show off will work in rugby space ? 😂😂😂 i cant Wait to see, this flow never work in football in Europe 😂😂😂

  • @Rayzajw
    @Rayzajw Рік тому

    Nahhh not DJ Khaled 💀in all seriousness it might be corny but this will be for the betterment of the players.

  • @sibusisomofokeng2883
    @sibusisomofokeng2883 Рік тому

    I met this guy while working in Sandton, he was with Ardie. Cost me a sale, kept interrupting me 🙃

  • @markt6743
    @markt6743 Рік тому

    Parasites. How can the game afford this?

  • @lindelwanothandongcobo8863
    @lindelwanothandongcobo8863 Рік тому

    Is he still koketso’s man

  • @ChyeahWill
    @ChyeahWill Рік тому

    Why is everyone so negative in the comments? 😂

  • @chrismay7227
    @chrismay7227 Рік тому

    Wilko Johnson works for Roc Nation? Thought he passed?

  • @Jpwpsl
    @Jpwpsl Рік тому

    Everything rugby doesn't need

  • @cjstryder5441
    @cjstryder5441 Рік тому

    If it sounds too good to be true it usually is.

  • @jQuickjQuick
    @jQuickjQuick Рік тому

    Sign your souls to the devil

  • @1112-g1x
    @1112-g1x Рік тому

    this has all these weird hyped up hip hop undertones, jayz dj kahyle etc

  • @ghettotech9617
    @ghettotech9617 Рік тому +3

    uncap rugby so the players get paid what they deserve

  • @lo-filivesound1595
    @lo-filivesound1595 Рік тому

    Another Shark 🦈 in the water 💦

  • @cptvane3439
    @cptvane3439 Рік тому

    American business man hmm 🤔

  • @weekend_sports
    @weekend_sports Рік тому

    This video cheesy as hell 😂😂

  • @davisorbelll225
    @davisorbelll225 Рік тому

    Wil Jordan surely

  • @CraighJonas
    @CraighJonas Рік тому +3

    Roc Nation making money moves.💰

  • @dariankrieger4813
    @dariankrieger4813 Рік тому

    Wolf

  • @TheXcercist
    @TheXcercist Рік тому

    Ardie Savea 🏉👑

  • @Gilescowdemdem
    @Gilescowdemdem Рік тому +7

    State of these comments and people who have no idea how important it is that rugby gets legitimate worldwide and mainstream attention. That's what these dudes do.

    • @njabulothabethe5022
      @njabulothabethe5022 Рік тому +6

      Man this is why rugby isn't growing this kind of old school traditionalist thinking 🤦🏾‍♂️

    • @hellovanite
      @hellovanite Рік тому +1

      Yeah says you... there's a reason why a country of 5mil has been consistently the best and its not this bs

    • @njabulothabethe5022
      @njabulothabethe5022 Рік тому +4

      @@hellovanite what does that have to do with the growth of rugby globally and financially

    • @hellovanite
      @hellovanite Рік тому

      @@njabulothabethe5022 You don't get it brother I and I don't care. My only and sole interest is in how it affects the sport in my country I could give a rats arse what they do in your bog hole country.

    • @njabulothabethe5022
      @njabulothabethe5022 Рік тому +2

      @@hellovanite I'm guessing your Kiwi😒

  • @roberthaukautai3420
    @roberthaukautai3420 Рік тому

    Now our fellow polys are gonna be selling there souls to the devil

    • @bpswank429
      @bpswank429 Рік тому

      Ardie Savea gonna be the first Polynesian rugby player to join the illuminati

    • @kelsyn21
      @kelsyn21 Рік тому

      @@bpswank429 Dwayne been there for a long time, he has become one of the highest paid actors in Hollywood because they(illuminati) allow it.
      They opened the door for him you don't reach those levels of wealth and fame and not pay a price.
      plus he rubs shoulders and shakes the hands of men and women on the world political spectrum who are involved in world politics and current world events

    • @bpswank429
      @bpswank429 Рік тому

      @@kelsyn21 rugby player dude

  • @lemonkaysweet
    @lemonkaysweet Рік тому +5

    This is going to be game changing 👌 this is really eye opening !!! Gives me "Baller" vibes

  • @exodusdiva2295
    @exodusdiva2295 Рік тому +1

    This opens for more opportunity for the Rugby players. I think there could be more exposure for the athletes

  • @whitecollartradie4862
    @whitecollartradie4862 Рік тому +1

    Definitely want to watch more of this

  • @ora-in-aotearoa9747
    @ora-in-aotearoa9747 Рік тому +1

    ROC nation, how clever is this guy, even tho he cleverly uses his entrepreneurial skills to profile top quality rugby players world wide, but this is his opportunity to make this a world wide TV show with the best rugby players in the world following their lives as top athletes, the rugby market, followers etc is untouched with this type of series, Clever clever man

  • @splashboy2123
    @splashboy2123 Рік тому +1

    🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @rashneelwalla380
    @rashneelwalla380 Рік тому

    This guy speaks a whole lot of nothingness

  • @hellovanite
    @hellovanite Рік тому

    Basically what this is is the end of New Zealand as a force in world rugby. These guys will take players away from the New Zealand game which make no mistake is the foundation of New Zealands success. This is a playing field NZ cannot compete in and so all these contracts will take players away from our game. This will weaken our game. If that's the way it is then that's the way it is. But this will not bode well for the bigger picture of All Black's rugby.