Astra rocket seen spinning out of control at fairing sep, payloads lost

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  • Опубліковано 9 лют 2022
  • An Astra rocket failed to deliver the NASA ELaNa 41 mission to orbit after launching from Cape Canaveral Space Force Station in Florida on Feb. 10, 2022. The rocket can be seen spinning after fairing separation. Full Story: www.space.com/astra-first-flo...
    Credit: Astra / NASASpaceflight.com
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  • @Trex531
    @Trex531 2 роки тому +502

    We need Scott Manley surgical analysis. Keep on Astra!

    • @JamesEdwards780
      @JamesEdwards780 2 роки тому +8

      Red Robe of Doom incoming

    • @allenkemp3124
      @allenkemp3124 2 роки тому +20

      He’s probably in front of the camera now.

    • @eikopoppy29
      @eikopoppy29 2 роки тому +13

      I agree with the person below who said it looks like the 2nd stage didn't separate cleanly. I think second engine startup happened while the stages were still in contact, and either something broke or something stayed attached to the second stage that wasn't supposed to.
      Looking forward to Scott Manley's analysis too. He seems to always be able to find some detail everyone else (at least, internet commentators) misses.

    • @bosenose4837
      @bosenose4837 2 роки тому +10

      It appears that the fairings didn’t separate before the second stage was released from the first stage. In fact, you can see when the second stage ignites, it forced the fairings apart and flew out of there like a bat out of hell. Definitely looking forward to Scott’s breakdown!

    • @chris.heffernan
      @chris.heffernan 2 роки тому +2

      Prob recording his vid as we speak

  • @Rhynocx
    @Rhynocx 2 роки тому +87

    looks like someone forgot to check their staging. this sucks, i hope astra gets it right next time, they are working hard and deserve a win.

    • @jonslg240
      @jonslg240 2 роки тому +9

      Once it shows the launch pad again, you can go ahead and skip to 13:30 unless you want to see propellant being exhausted for 10 minutes
      Seriously, who the hell edits these? They obviously edited it for 10 minutes of watch time, not giving 2 shits about us, their viewers.

    • @82NeXus
      @82NeXus 2 роки тому +3

      @@jonslg240 No, they probably included the whole video from T - 10sec onwards, for completeness! NASASpaceflight post hour-long videos of Starship prototypes being rolled along the road from the vertical assembly building to the launch pad. They also make edited versions with time lapse and bits cut out. Some people like to watch the long versions and get more sense of what's actually happening. Thanks for the time point though.

    • @davidzachmeyer1957
      @davidzachmeyer1957 2 роки тому +5

      They accidentally hit the spacebar twice.

    • @adawg3032
      @adawg3032 2 роки тому +2

      @@jonslg240 hey go edit it yourself and post on your channel if your gonna cry. Lots of us like the long unedited view

    • @Daniel-rw2gy
      @Daniel-rw2gy 2 роки тому +1

      @@jonslg240 they just cut away from the failure because they didn’t want people to see it I guess

  • @MentaIPatient
    @MentaIPatient 2 роки тому +128

    If you go to 3:14 and watch the fairing it slips off but then gets hung up on something and then when the first stage lit, the exhaust blows the fairing off and causes the first stage to start spinning.

    • @midnightoiltube
      @midnightoiltube 2 роки тому +4

      Yeah, their successful launch from two months ago did not have this problem.

    • @puerco911
      @puerco911 2 роки тому +8

      I agree, something definitely got stuck on sep

    • @392redienhcs
      @392redienhcs 2 роки тому +2

      WHAT are you talking about?!?! Fairing separation happens AFTER MECO and SES. That SE was already spinning after MECO, and SES only made it spin faster. WHAT are you talking about the fairings for?! They didn't even reach that point.

    • @cagem0nkey
      @cagem0nkey 2 роки тому +5

      It looks like the fairing didn't separate. That shift at 3:18 was supposed to be stage separation, but it looks like the fairing was still attached. The view on the left screen is inside the first stage looking forward towards the second stage and fairing, with the fairing at the top. Notice what parts move and what parts do not. When the 2nd stage lit, it blew off the fairing and started to spin out of control.

    • @MentaIPatient
      @MentaIPatient 2 роки тому +7

      @@392redienhcs Did you not watch the video. It did not start spinning until after the fairing was blown off by the upper stage. Watch it again

  • @quaxenleaf
    @quaxenleaf 2 роки тому +302

    If such an endeavor were easy many would be doing it. Hats off to the engineers who will be able to analyze the problem and correct it. Wishing you guys much future success!

    • @jonslg240
      @jonslg240 2 роки тому +7

      Once it shows the launch pad again, you can go ahead and skip to 13:30 unless you want to see propellant being exhausted for 10 minutes
      Seriously, who the hell edits these? They obviously edited it for 10 minutes of watch time, not giving 2 shits about us, their viewers.

    • @82NeXus
      @82NeXus 2 роки тому +3

      @@jonslg240 No, they probably included the whole video from T - 10sec onwards, for completeness! NASASpaceflight post hour-long videos of Starship prototypes being rolled along the road from the vertical assembly building to the launch pad. They also make edited versions with time lapse and bits cut out. Some people like to watch the long versions and get more sense of what's actually happening. Thanks for the time point though.

    • @paulnomic2027
      @paulnomic2027 2 роки тому +1

      many are doing it... Astra sux

    • @cjjenson8212
      @cjjenson8212 2 роки тому +2

      EVERYBODY with a billion dollars is doing it 🤨

    • @Zoltaaan
      @Zoltaaan 2 роки тому +2

      ​@@cjjenson8212 If I get a billion dollars I WILL be launching some things into space.
      1. Going to launch some awesome cameras that stream 24/7 so anybody can see what's going on in the solar system at any time - a few pointed in various directions
      2. Going to launch something better than that golden record with abstract symbols on it. I get the point and reasoning behind it, but I really think some kind of multi-media device which shows Earth and all of its people in a way that's improved over a golden record with some etchings in it
      3. Going to launch one thing which will actually help science|
      But the main thing, all of these launches will require 0 space junk to be created. All fairings, nuts and bolts, and anything that leaves Earth must be accounted for and not end up as ridiculous amounts of reckless space junk like all of these private companies don't seem to care about. In 100 years it will be too dangerous to launch anything without a significant risk of it being shot out of the sky by random junk shooting by.

  • @markmark2080
    @markmark2080 2 роки тому +83

    I feel for everyone involved in "things" like this, so much effort, so many details, so much hope, and so much pain on failure...the ongoing story of the "Space age"...

    • @andrewshortt4665
      @andrewshortt4665 2 роки тому +2

      When I saw the launch pad I new this was going to be a mickey mouse effort.

    • @schaeferfilm
      @schaeferfilm 2 роки тому +1

      you should speak more about lack of intelligence and professionality - these are kids playing rocket

    • @jeremybroderick9465
      @jeremybroderick9465 2 роки тому

      Money laundering at its best

    • @82NeXus
      @82NeXus 2 роки тому +3

      @@andrewshortt4665 Most things look like a Mickey Mouse effort relative to huge, established organisations like SpaceX and NASA! But if you knew one thing about business, engineering or rockets you would see that this was no Mickey Mouse effort! You're probably either not finished school yet, or didn't learn much while you were there, so STFU until you know what you're talking about. (Same to the other replies.)

    • @anonydun82fgoog35
      @anonydun82fgoog35 2 роки тому

      That's why you buy insurance. Expensive but worth it when this happens.

  • @ganymede3141
    @ganymede3141 2 роки тому +68

    It's almost like it's actual rocket science and it's hard. 🤔

    • @benjaminghazi787
      @benjaminghazi787 2 роки тому +1

      technically it's not rocket science, it's rocket engineering

    • @ditsokar4168
      @ditsokar4168 2 роки тому

      It's ksp

    • @ganymede3141
      @ganymede3141 2 роки тому +1

      @@benjaminghazi787 Engineering is using science and scientific knowledge to design and build useful products. So it's both rocket science and rocket engineering. 👍

    • @dreeemer
      @dreeemer 2 роки тому

      Almost. 😉

    • @jaymac7203
      @jaymac7203 2 роки тому

      The rocket was fine though 😭😭 It was the little fairing release that failed to separate. 😭😤

  • @mii747
    @mii747 2 роки тому +206

    To me, it looked like the payload shifted after MECO resulting in an imbalance causing the vehicle to spin after second stage ignition.

    • @johntheux9238
      @johntheux9238 2 роки тому +3

      The engine can gimbal to account for that, right?

    • @ChrisHarmon1
      @ChrisHarmon1 2 роки тому +9

      @@johntheux9238 Probably hard to correct if it got too far out of alignment before it could respond by gimbaling. I wouldn't be surprised if this type of control system ran fairly low gains.

    • @markhooker8520
      @markhooker8520 2 роки тому +2

      Interesting thought. wouldn't that be a quite fundamental thing to get wrong though, or is there some precedent for it with previous flights?

    • @Ron4885
      @Ron4885 2 роки тому +5

      mii747 I did see that too. Perhaps the vibrations broke one or more of the tie downs.

    • @dstr1
      @dstr1 2 роки тому +1

      @@johntheux9238 not for spinning on its axis. Gimble can deflect but if its twisting on its axis it takes small rockets set at right angle to stop that. And it's most likely not equipped for such maneuvers.

  • @Starphot
    @Starphot 2 роки тому +54

    This was an upper atmosphere failure. The previous launch months ago had the rocket dance around the launchpad before moving upwards. Loss of thrust in one of the engines had it do ballistics instead of reaching orbit. That was fun to watch.

    • @bloodaid
      @bloodaid 2 роки тому

      Where's the video of that? I wanna see the dance

    • @Starphot
      @Starphot 2 роки тому +1

      @@bloodaid ua-cam.com/video/iNKr8dEP1-8/v-deo.html

    • @delta4744
      @delta4744 2 роки тому

      @@Starphot I dont think that's the right video 😅

    • @Starphot
      @Starphot 2 роки тому

      @@delta4744 You're right, It gave out the commercial url! Sorry!
      ua-cam.com/video/x2jU5W4ehPE/v-deo.html

    • @ZeroSpawn
      @ZeroSpawn 2 роки тому

      Did this launch not entertain you!?

  • @philbaxter487
    @philbaxter487 2 роки тому +73

    looks like the fairing failed to separate. Then the second stage was released and pushed forward, but it then hit the fairing, instead of separating from the first stage. When the second stage engine ignited, that caused the second stage to rip the fairing off. This likely damaged the second stage, causing it to lose control.

  • @mott_scanley0029
    @mott_scanley0029 2 роки тому +80

    Truly a kerbal moment!

  • @tepidtuna7450
    @tepidtuna7450 2 роки тому +73

    So sad. Keep going Astra, you're so close.
    To my untrained eye it looks like the payload shifted before fairing deployment. May have upset the weight balance.

    • @devinarendt6138
      @devinarendt6138 2 роки тому +1

      The 2nd stage fired before separation.

    • @SearchBucket2
      @SearchBucket2 2 роки тому +3

      Mustn't speculate. Maybe aliens shot it down? 😉

    • @rxw5520
      @rxw5520 2 роки тому +3

      The thing just didn’t open. You can see at 3:18 when it falls down, it was supposed to open up and separate at that point, but it didn’t. Then the jet fires and blasts the whole shit into oblivion.

    • @rumple4skin140
      @rumple4skin140 2 роки тому

      Lmao just looking at what the internet scientists have to say🤣,
      Our German rocket scientists are better than your greman rocket scientists.

    • @mikiex
      @mikiex 2 роки тому

      Untrained eye? Apply for a job with Astra (assuming that is just a username and not your biological status)

  • @Arun_hog
    @Arun_hog 2 роки тому +28

    Well done astra....seeing sucessful launches these days become boring after some time. But you made us remember how space endeavours were in the 2000's

  • @RTXti-ld7dx
    @RTXti-ld7dx 2 роки тому +13

    The GOOD thing that came out of the 2nd stage spinning is that you can CLEARLY see the the earth, is in fact ROUND and NOT flat for the the few people that swear the earth is flat and can supposedly “Prove it”. Camera don’t lie folks. It shows a great view of our round, planet Earth. As well as MANY space x flights.

    • @MajDuty
      @MajDuty 2 роки тому +1

      @RTX3080ti the Earth is of course spherical but the wide angle, fisheye lens is why you are seeing it so round. I'm not disputing a globe Earth I'm just saying it is the lens making it look like that and that is the exact argument the FEs would use

    • @JammaLamma
      @JammaLamma 2 роки тому +1

      I don't know, it's gonna take a lot more than that to convince me cuz the flat earth theory is rock solid. ROCK SAHHHH..... ok i can't I can't do it I'm pretty sure that's not much of a thing anymore is it?

    • @jayhockley8841
      @jayhockley8841 2 роки тому +2

      The Earth is actually shapped like an Egg .
      It even has a gigantic yellow gooey thing in the middle that everyone is afraid of .
      Thats the latest theory ..

    • @toledojeeper2932
      @toledojeeper2932 2 роки тому

      Shaped more like a football for Superbowl Sunday .

  • @jaymac7203
    @jaymac7203 2 роки тому +16

    A whole damn mission ruined because of a fault in the fairing latch opening 😕 This is why you have triple redundancies on small fiddly things that could be catastrophic if damaged. I feel for all involved it must be so frustrating 😤

    • @sporopeza
      @sporopeza 2 роки тому

      NASA should have checked with SpaceX on how to build a rocket. Ohhhh, that's right, NASA'S part of the federal government. Anything the government gets involved with usually has a high failure rate.

    • @sentientmop317
      @sentientmop317 2 роки тому +2

      @@sporopeza this is astra not NASA, NASA just happened to be a customer of Astra in this case. Not their fault.

    • @Fishbowlfx8
      @Fishbowlfx8 2 роки тому

      They need to hire an OCD manager.

  • @machspeedster
    @machspeedster 2 роки тому +28

    Thats why this is called rocket science. Engineers never give up.

    • @josephpublico2337
      @josephpublico2337 2 роки тому +1

      Yeah well, it's not exactly brain surgery is it?
      ua-cam.com/video/THNPmhBl-8I/v-deo.html

    • @sporopeza
      @sporopeza 2 роки тому

      Never give up? Yes, NASA should give up as they are outdated and fail to much.
      Call SpaceX if you want a better guaranteed delivery 😂

  • @fuckYTIDontWantToUseMyRealName
    @fuckYTIDontWantToUseMyRealName 2 роки тому +10

    "... And you can see that the upper stage has lit..."
    Yeah, but I don't think that's all we can see.

  • @jasperdonley9450
    @jasperdonley9450 2 роки тому +23

    Looks like they got their staging wrong, revert flight back to the VAB

  • @therealxunil2
    @therealxunil2 2 роки тому +15

    And this, folks, is why we DON'T CELEBRATE until the mission is COMPLETE.

    • @KrustyKlown
      @KrustyKlown 2 роки тому

      ".. on it's way to SPACE!!..." ... mission was doomed with that remark

    • @tirepunk7367
      @tirepunk7367 2 роки тому

      the kid like cheering like Bozo the Clown just showed up at a 7 years old's birthday party needs to stop. Embarrassing

    • @chris-hayes
      @chris-hayes 2 роки тому

      Cheering for critical phases of the launch is pretty normal. Stage sep for Astra is still a big deal. They prolly got the announcement ahead of the video feed.

    • @tirepunk7367
      @tirepunk7367 2 роки тому

      @@chris-hayes when we launched men to the moon on Apollo missions the only cheering was when they landed.....you know, when the mission was over. People today think everything is AWESOME and cheer the smallest shit, even if it's the 68th time it has been done.. Pathetic.

  • @santiagorivero6074
    @santiagorivero6074 2 роки тому +48

    Looks like the second stage bump into the fairing and then the engine started inside it

    • @ganymede3141
      @ganymede3141 2 роки тому +3

      Yeah, that separation did not look clean. It looks like it got stuck/hung up.

    • @VoyagerVentures
      @VoyagerVentures 2 роки тому +4

      I think the fairings got stuck.

    • @horizonsmusic9673
      @horizonsmusic9673 2 роки тому +2

      @@VoyagerVentures Steve come help me I’m stuck

    • @mkllove
      @mkllove 2 роки тому +2

      Definitely a strange fwd translation movement inside of fairing, and then sideways as well, but I don't think engine starting inside could be issue, the engine appeared to start just after separation of fairings when I reviewed it frame by frame. The side by side videos don't appear in synch. Left image seems to be running stable on a fairing looking fwd, right image freezes time indexes and shows irregular intermittent tumbling, perhaps caused by telemetry issues from rotation interfering with transmission of data. Left image shows upper stage fishtailing back and forth at lower right of image. Looks like second stage guidance or steering thrusters are at fault if you slow it down. I'm guessing thrusters were bent or damaged if the fairing contacted them in side to side movement.

  • @speedball1919
    @speedball1919 2 роки тому +4

    Wow Nobody commented that space is hard yet??!

  • @cedisintheair7204
    @cedisintheair7204 2 роки тому +57

    With such unfortunate events you realize sending rocket ships to space is a serious thing. It is amazing to see that some companies can make heavy rockets fly, land and reuse them after.

    • @LuisPereira-bn8jq
      @LuisPereira-bn8jq 2 роки тому +17

      There's still only one company that can reuse rockets. A few others are working towards it, but still not there.
      That reusable rockets company makes so many launches so easily that they make this stuff look easy, but it really isn't. Pretty much every step in a launch is a chance for failure...

    • @agrozema54
      @agrozema54 2 роки тому +13

      @@LuisPereira-bn8jq you can just say spaceX lol

    • @LuisPereira-bn8jq
      @LuisPereira-bn8jq 2 роки тому +3

      @@agrozema54 Nah, don't want to give it away :p

    • @sporopeza
      @sporopeza 2 роки тому

      Amen to that.
      RIP NASA

    • @mikiex
      @mikiex 2 роки тому

      When you say land, does that include falling over and exploding after touch down?

  • @leokimvideo
    @leokimvideo 2 роки тому +20

    Looks like main engine cut off created a shift in the load, thats set up an unbalance the rest is history. Sad loss.

    • @TheThomSirveaux
      @TheThomSirveaux 2 роки тому +1

      My WAG is that the payload wasn't properly secured in the faring, which allowed for the shift during MECO.

    • @leptok3736
      @leptok3736 2 роки тому

      @@TheThomSirveaux sure seems like the payload or something slams backwards right before separation

    • @TheThomSirveaux
      @TheThomSirveaux 2 роки тому

      @@leptok3736 took a look at Scott Manley's video, and what slams forward is the second stage, and that the faring failed to separate.

  • @spider0804
    @spider0804 2 роки тому +1

    "And you can see that the upper stage engine has lit", she reads while not looking at the stream.
    A lot more than that has happened!

  • @JS-zb1vv
    @JS-zb1vv 2 роки тому +7

    I haven’t been so lucky ever to be in a chat with so many rocket scientists !! This is amazing we can solve everything now !!!

    • @boostedbadboyzx12r31
      @boostedbadboyzx12r31 2 роки тому

      Just because we all didn't take a job at NASA, doesn't mean there aren't plenty of qualified people to do so. It's a matter of numbers vs availability, crazy the simple things you learned if you paid attention in school. But hey, you tried, here's a trophy. 🏆 😆🤣😂
      By the way, there is a lot of correct assessments here, but apparently you're not part of the rocket science club.

    • @scottslotterbeck3796
      @scottslotterbeck3796 2 роки тому

      Lol

    • @JS-zb1vv
      @JS-zb1vv 2 роки тому +1

      @@boostedbadboyzx12r31 yes it’s obvious to see they didn’t separate at the right time !! But why ? Cmon Enlighten all of us !! Tell us exactly what anomalies caused it !! Rocket man !! I’m sure The actual engineers at astra are waiting for your answer !!

    • @kennyg1358
      @kennyg1358 2 роки тому

      @@JS-zb1vv didn't you see? The thingy that was supposed to do that thing it was made to do didn't do it properly.

    • @JS-zb1vv
      @JS-zb1vv 2 роки тому +2

      @@kennyg1358 yes I think we have been explained this throughly by all of the rocket scientist!! I can’t wait to see all of the good work they are doing to figure out the anomaly!!

  • @MrGoMario
    @MrGoMario 2 роки тому +63

    That makes me understand how far ahead SpaceX really is .... 😥 Wish them all the best ....

    • @suborbitalpada6609
      @suborbitalpada6609 2 роки тому +4

      Yeah.... Launching a orbital rocket is like walking on lava. no one would do it.

    • @vikisoe8263
      @vikisoe8263 2 роки тому +4

      Space x too failed several times.

    • @rumple4skin140
      @rumple4skin140 2 роки тому +3

      They've been doing this for how long?
      Call Elon, he'll get them sats up there,
      Lots of people don't like Elon, just read the comments lol

    • @rumple4skin140
      @rumple4skin140 2 роки тому +2

      @@vikisoe8263 but no casualties, can nasa say the same?

    • @hughmann1537
      @hughmann1537 2 роки тому +2

      @@vikisoe8263 how long NASA been blowing things up? DECADES worth of wasted BILLIONS and a few lives along the way...

  • @404jamill
    @404jamill 2 роки тому +3

    It's still impressive that they got that far, kudos to Astra and best of luck to them on their next launch.

  • @bryanholland6987
    @bryanholland6987 2 роки тому +6

    I love how the woman admits she can see that the engine has lit despite the obvious problem and she's just like, all happy that the engine turned on lol.

  • @timothygermann780
    @timothygermann780 2 роки тому +4

    10 years ago SpaceX rockets were blowing up too, now they work like clockwork. Keep at it.

    • @StartVisit
      @StartVisit 2 роки тому

      when? during actual delivery flight?

    • @timothygermann780
      @timothygermann780 2 роки тому

      ​@@StartVisit F9 CRS-7, second stage explosion with loss of payload, AMOS-6 exploded on launch pad with full loss of payload.

  • @siamimam2109
    @siamimam2109 2 роки тому +36

    The more I see these launches, the more I start admiring what SPACEX is doing! Hopefully astra can scoop up some of the spacex engineers and learn from them

    • @esaiaswalker8944
      @esaiaswalker8944 2 роки тому +4

      @@coloradokid8321 Spot on, his passion is admirable I don’t care who you are. It reflects in his success.

    • @livedtea4363
      @livedtea4363 2 роки тому +3

      yeop, watching a space X mission is boring as hell but 101 things lined up flawlessly for mission success (over 100+ flights and counting .....)

    • @AeonExploration
      @AeonExploration 2 роки тому +6

      @@coloradokid8321 Elon doesn’t do anything but post shit about his ideas that he underpays people to make for him

    • @TitaniumTurbine
      @TitaniumTurbine 2 роки тому +1

      This thread omg. Look people, Elon doesn’t engineer the rocket, he doesn’t design the rockets and he’s not a rocket scientist. Okay? That’s what he pays rocket scientists to do. He may own and fund SpaceX but comparing him to Nikola Tesla is a joke. The dude didn’t invent jack sh*t. He just oversees the brand. 🤦🏻‍♂️

    • @AeonExploration
      @AeonExploration 2 роки тому +1

      @@TitaniumTurbine exactly, thank you so much, much needed wordS from someone else.

  • @blue5peed
    @blue5peed 2 роки тому +23

    It looks tiny, we got used to seeing giant ships.

  • @DmitryKonanykhin
    @DmitryKonanykhin 2 роки тому +14

    apparently, the locks did not work simultaneously, the second stage jammed and the main engine of the second stage, which turned on, broke the jammed connection. The second stage was thrown out of control.

  • @tedviens1
    @tedviens1 2 роки тому +8

    Not wise to schedule two inertial changes at the same time. Second engine start-up must be allowed to stabilize and be confirmed by telemetry with a buffer of a minute or two before fairing separation.

  • @zapfanzapfan
    @zapfanzapfan 2 роки тому +13

    Spin launch...
    Scott Manley´s analysis will be interesting.

  • @MichaelClark-uw7ex
    @MichaelClark-uw7ex 2 роки тому +5

    Looks like the first stage works perfectly, the problem appeared to be during the fairing seperation and and second stage ejection.
    Interesting system they use for staging.

    • @Make-Asylums-Great-Again
      @Make-Asylums-Great-Again 2 роки тому

      Thanks for describing the title, we all have eyes and most of us have the ability to read. 👍

    • @MichaelClark-uw7ex
      @MichaelClark-uw7ex 2 роки тому +2

      @@Make-Asylums-Great-Again But some don't have the ability to realize what they are seeing.
      And some just like to make rude comments on science videos.

  • @MobilMobil-kv5ke
    @MobilMobil-kv5ke 2 роки тому +1

    When they cut to the launch pad, for a while they displayed the velocity and altitude in the lower right corner. When it was clear the velocity was decaying they cut it off the screen. Nice transparency NASA.

  • @brynnrogers5081
    @brynnrogers5081 2 роки тому +2

    I thought the first stage did not separate cleanly, and the second stage engine bell hung up on the top of the first stage. Then, when the second stage ignited it explosivly separated, causing the second stage to tumble - probably something like the thrust vectoring, or a piece of the engine bell was lost in the seperation, and the tumble was induced during the seperation. It could have tried to correct the tumble if the vectoring worked, but every time my kerbals tumble I am unable to reach orbit even if I can pull it out of the tumble - because too much velocity lost.

  • @garfieldirwin
    @garfieldirwin 2 роки тому +5

    Looks like someone forgot to use the explosive bolts on the faring. 🙂Second sage: Hold my beer.

  • @JohnStockbridge
    @JohnStockbridge 2 роки тому +52

    Seems the sequence of fairing and stage separation may have been a bit reversed.

    • @jordanthedove
      @jordanthedove 2 роки тому +16

      Classic kerbal error ;)

    • @horizonsmusic9673
      @horizonsmusic9673 2 роки тому +1

      Haha

    • @dabniel5119
      @dabniel5119 2 роки тому +3

      check yo staging!

    • @USMCArchAngel03
      @USMCArchAngel03 2 роки тому +3

      @@jordanthedove Hey at least they didn't deploy the parachutes when they lit the engine.

    • @mmsL125
      @mmsL125 2 роки тому +1

      @@jordanthedove at least Jeb wasn’t up there

  • @vin7741
    @vin7741 2 роки тому +14

    Dont give up astra keep going

  • @zerg9523
    @zerg9523 2 роки тому +10

    Okay… watching a few times, here’s my first assessment.
    At 3:13 on the left we’re positioned offset from the centre, inside the fearing looking up at stage two. The bottom of the stage two engine nozzle is the shiny thing in the bottom half of the frame.
    At 3:14 you can see some debris flying around, these i think are the frangible bolt pieces following the attempted fearing separation.
    At 3:15 one even splats on the grey/orange bar in the right camera.
    At 3:18 the payload release went as expected, except that the fearing was still there, so it bumped into the top of the fearing.
    At 3:23 engine lit on schedule and it blew the fearing off. The spin probably being a result of that impact with the fearing, which was too much rotation to recover from at that point.

    • @grandjugg
      @grandjugg 2 роки тому

      The white stuff on 3:15?

  • @KIDSIXoo
    @KIDSIXoo 2 роки тому +4

    After MECO the separation stage and relighting of the engine caused this failure. @3:13 you can clearly see the bottom half get stuck then blown off when the engine relit. Man what a costly screw up.

  • @ASDRONEDOC
    @ASDRONEDOC 2 роки тому +15

    Proud of you Astra! Keep going! We believe in you!

  • @devinarendt6138
    @devinarendt6138 2 роки тому +1

    For those that don't already know, the 2nd stage fired before separation.

  • @vladapostol5950
    @vladapostol5950 2 роки тому +2

    This is me in Kerbal space program when I miss-arrange my stages 🤣

  • @stephenirwin2761
    @stephenirwin2761 2 роки тому +11

    Don’t give up! Space is hard but you can do it!

    • @garystewart3110
      @garystewart3110 2 роки тому +1

      ad astra per aspera. to the stars through hardship

  • @party4keeps28
    @party4keeps28 2 роки тому +11

    When the James Webb telescope was launched I was GLUED to my seat, extremely worried that something like this would go wrong. Accidents can always happen and I'm thankful this payload was lost instead of Webb.

    • @mrhegyi
      @mrhegyi 2 роки тому +1

      Fortunately they didn't show us nearly anything when they launched JW, so we didn't have to be worried by anything.

    • @party4keeps28
      @party4keeps28 2 роки тому

      @@mrhegyi I followed a stream that had constant updates during the launch. I don't remember what UA-cam channel it was though. There was another channel that updated the telescopes progress over the first month of settling into orbit and unfolding.

    • @404jamill
      @404jamill 2 роки тому

      Still doesn't change the fact that a payload was lost, no matter how valuable it is. Either way, I hope Astra will succeed with their next launch, they've been working hard.

  • @themusicofnewyork1570
    @themusicofnewyork1570 2 роки тому

    It is delightful to see so many encouraging comments here rather than negative ones. The space community is great.

  • @rhinotime1178
    @rhinotime1178 2 роки тому

    After things went wrong, was there like 3 or 4 really fast streaks of light flying past the rocket?

  • @jnellie1970
    @jnellie1970 2 роки тому +16

    Keep it going Astra. Space X and NASA had many many failures before success.

  • @gooterz
    @gooterz 2 роки тому +5

    Looked like the fairing didn't separate. Then when the stage separation happened 2nd stage was loose inside the fairing. Shortly after the 2nd stage just exploded things apart.
    Why is there no time between these events? Giving the space craft a slight spin would help keep the alignment.
    Sorry to NASA and those expecting their stuff in space today.

    • @ARockyRock
      @ARockyRock 2 роки тому

      Well I mean, it's technically in space.

  • @SixDasher
    @SixDasher 2 роки тому +1

    Space is hard. Good luck to Astra on their next attempt. You are so close to pulling it off.

  • @creatyve
    @creatyve 2 роки тому +2

    I'm surprised the upper stage held together with the amount of forces being exerted on the structure

  • @melted_cheetah
    @melted_cheetah 2 роки тому +5

    Glad it wasn’t launching JWST

  • @italktroll2856
    @italktroll2856 2 роки тому +3

    "Everything is cool as long as it doesn't wobble in air"
    -iTalkTroll

  • @MCRuCr
    @MCRuCr 2 роки тому

    In the footage you can see that the stages did not separate completely. Then when the engine ignited, the first stage got blown off which probably caused the spaceship to spin

  • @SundayRide1204
    @SundayRide1204 2 роки тому +1

    Looks to me like the upper stage was stuck after releasing from the lower stage. Some crumpled structure components are visible during the separation event. Maybe I'm missing something but I am sure ASTRA will analyze and correct to be auccessful.

  • @davidlarson9125
    @davidlarson9125 2 роки тому +4

    This company has some of the greatest failures! Even the data on velocity and altitude is wrong.

  • @pw383426
    @pw383426 2 роки тому +5

    I like how there is commentary until the 2nd stage ignition, and then no mention of what happened and silence lol. Like no one admit what just happened

    • @roidroid
      @roidroid 2 роки тому +3

      I think there's lots to say when they know what's happening, they stop talking when they don't know. Coz what are they gonna say? "We don't know what's happening"

  • @markmd9
    @markmd9 2 роки тому +1

    I think that was a separation problem.
    First and second stage rockets are connected through some hinges that must separate exactly at the same time.
    If one of the hinges gets stuck then it might spin the second stage so that it won't be able to recover.

    • @snoopy9227
      @snoopy9227 10 місяців тому

      The fairing didnt deploy, when engine ignited on stage 2 it blew them away and started making it spin out of control.

  • @AKAKiddo
    @AKAKiddo 2 роки тому

    Love how the commentator says you can see that the upper stage engine has lit but no remarks regarding the Earth flashing by in the background.

  • @HowToSpacic
    @HowToSpacic 2 роки тому +6

    Seems like the fairing didn’t deploy and the second stage crashed through it.

  • @kaysguy
    @kaysguy 2 роки тому +3

    So, still only one successful Astra launch.

  • @mikemckelvey5062
    @mikemckelvey5062 2 роки тому

    @ 3:16 you can see something white fall onto something - right camera - top left corner. Anyone know what it is?

  • @JimmyShawsTidbits1
    @JimmyShawsTidbits1 2 роки тому

    Kinda figured when stage separation seemed to jamb up a bit and the second stage started doing summersaults there was a small problem.

  • @WootTootZoot
    @WootTootZoot 2 роки тому +3

    Well, I'd say it seems the front fell off.

    • @AthanImmortal
      @AthanImmortal 2 роки тому +1

      But WootTootZoot why did the front fall off in this case?

    • @user-lv7ph7hs7l
      @user-lv7ph7hs7l 2 роки тому

      It didn't fall off and that's the problem. Well technically the mid front should have fallen off so the front front could detach.

  • @YouCountSheep
    @YouCountSheep 2 роки тому +5

    I know the pain. Happened to me loads of times in Kerbal Space Program. Something went really wrong in the upper atmosphere somewhere. Maybe center of gravity shifted hard and made the rocket tumble. Dang.
    Edit: Watched again, you can see at around 3:17 around MECO and fairing seperation that there is a shock/movement there that doesn't look as if it was planned.

    • @atharvsarang
      @atharvsarang 2 роки тому

      Yes, I think at that moment, Maybe the Second stage was locked into First stage unexpected, and when the Ether ignited, it was forcefully ejected out of the First stage resulting maybe a hole or damaged Second stage nozzel

    • @YouCountSheep
      @YouCountSheep 2 роки тому

      @@atharvsarang To me it looked like that the fairing seperation consisted of 2 steps. One internal step and then the shell seperation. Either what you said or the payload or something shifted to one side hard and unexpected and not in the direction of the trajectory so it acted like a gyroscope and made it tumble. From the video its a pretty large movement altogether, and I doubt any vectoring could have corrected that. I guess Scott will eventually make a video about it when they found out what it was.

    • @johnreder8167
      @johnreder8167 2 роки тому +1

      " Happened to me loads of times in Kerbal Space Program" I laughed so hard lmaooooo.

  • @NoelKerns
    @NoelKerns 2 роки тому

    So what is the backend process on the failed payload delivery? They mention their customers....is the entire mission itself insured somehow, or is insurance up to the individual clients? Or can these sorts of things not be insured at all?

  • @prest0n755
    @prest0n755 2 роки тому

    On the right image at 3:19 they are looking at a damaged part which looks like it's supposed to break and it has moved from it's position as if the fairing or rocket sustained damage.

  • @MISTAKEWASMADE4live
    @MISTAKEWASMADE4live 2 роки тому +7

    Damn, looks like it almost succeded but the stages didn't really separate until the second stage ignited, that screwed up with the pathing I hope the camera wasn't somehow involved in it. The pathing looks pretty funky too it does all kinds of turns and twists I bet it wastes a lot of fuel doing that. I remember one of the early prototypes for Falcon, Falcon 1 I believe also had this issue and it was a big blow for SpaceX. Such is the way of spaceflight lots of failure before you get it right hopefully Astras pockets are still deep, I think NASA is funding them too, it was close, I think it's worth trying again for the proof of concept.

  • @otiebrown9999
    @otiebrown9999 2 роки тому +6

    Nice try.
    Even Musk had 3 failures !
    Same failure, the last time.
    Study simulations, again.

  • @dicksonfu8604
    @dicksonfu8604 2 роки тому

    Why stage separation and fairing separation are so hard to do correctly? Many missions were doomed by it.

  • @P.Galore
    @P.Galore 2 роки тому +2

    We've been launching payloads into orbit for 64 years....you'd think by now we'd have this down without incident.

  • @jeepingwiththelazyturtle1388
    @jeepingwiththelazyturtle1388 2 роки тому +3

    When it has to get to orbit you call Elon

  • @ksgrmdsdl2383
    @ksgrmdsdl2383 2 роки тому +12

    This thing had problems from the beginning. From a failed launch days ago and now this. My advise is that you guys at Astra need to take things slow and check everything to ensure everything is in order. No need to be in a hurry to launch and lose everything.

  • @lossless4129
    @lossless4129 2 роки тому

    Keep pushing ashtra, great work with a setback and that’s alright. space flight is hard and that’s an understatement to say the least.

  • @realLuisGiordano
    @realLuisGiordano 2 роки тому +1

    Astra's rockets look like Minuteman ICBMs

  • @YourFutureEx
    @YourFutureEx 2 роки тому +4

    Again, the announcers can’t even be bothered to watch the crappy video feed. Y’all should ask to hitch a ride with SpaceX. Stop with the amateur hour BS.

    • @fantin298
      @fantin298 2 роки тому

      Ok use your brain for a sec, you have a 150kg satellite to put in orbit, what rocket will you buy ? One that cost 2 million and can put up to 200kg in LEO or one that can costs 25 times more (50 millions $) and can put up to 20 000kg in LEO ?

    • @colewong7431
      @colewong7431 2 роки тому

      @@fantin298 I'd rideshare and take the $50 million rocket, but split the cost with other customers.

    • @YourFutureEx
      @YourFutureEx 2 роки тому

      @@fantin298 - depends on how many $100 million satellites these clowns are going to destroy.

    • @fantin298
      @fantin298 2 роки тому

      @@colewong7431 2 things, first the satellite is not designed for a rideshare, using a falcon 9 would mean to redesign the whole thing, secondly the size and geometry of the satellite may not be compatible with the others satellites as well as the satellite link. And if we think like you are doing then you are suggesting that absolutely NO ONE should go for a new aerospace company ? Meaning that it would be pretty much impossible for a newborn one to thrive ? And do I have to remind you how many times spacex has failed before succeeding ? How many payload were lost (idk but it’s probably higher than astra). You people are the same losers/pessimists who discourage and boo people who try very hard to do something great when they fail but of course once they succeed you guys are like « yeah you guys are great and awesome etc »

    • @fantin298
      @fantin298 2 роки тому

      @@YourFutureEx read my comment

  • @Slotcarking
    @Slotcarking 2 роки тому +13

    Next time, have Spacex deliver the payload!

    • @HicSvntDracones
      @HicSvntDracones 2 роки тому +1

      SpaceX had many more wonderous rapid unscheduled disassembles when they were at this point in development.. :)

    • @fantin298
      @fantin298 2 роки тому +1

      Ok think for a sec, you have a 150kg satellite to put in orbit, what rocket will you buy ? One that cost 2 million and can put up to 200kg in LEO or one that can costs 25 times more (50 millions $) and can put up to 20 000kg in LEO ?

    • @AeonExploration
      @AeonExploration 2 роки тому

      These comments really anger me.

  • @stormsfromcalifornia4379
    @stormsfromcalifornia4379 2 роки тому +2

    bright side wasn't a manned flight.

  • @kynnmaster_123
    @kynnmaster_123 2 роки тому +1

    I'm so sad with Astra. But don't worry, they can do it next time, I hope so. Go Astra!

  • @wptapl1
    @wptapl1 2 роки тому +4

    Another Astra artificial Reef in the ocean

  • @sythex92
    @sythex92 2 роки тому +5

    SpaceX: Has had 100 successful launches, with reusable rockets, and no failures or aborts.
    Astra: Has had more failures than any space company in history, has had 3 aborts within a month.
    Nasa: Hmm.. Astra seems cheap, lets give them a shot.
    ??????????????

    • @AKjohndoe
      @AKjohndoe 2 роки тому +4

      So many aborts.. and spaceX blew up so many rockets learning to make their falcon9... Nobody.. absolutely nobody can do this without failure. Not NASA, not Russia and not even the venerable Mr. Musk..

    • @-insert-
      @-insert- 2 роки тому +1

      A pretty ridiculous comment actually from a SpaceX fanboy. SpaceX had many spectacular Falcon9 failures in the early days. And have you already forgotten about the amazing explosions of the first few Starship landing attempts? Not saying that Astra will ever achieve 100+ successful launches but at least give them a chance, they're still in kindergarten.

    • @christopherpardell4418
      @christopherpardell4418 2 роки тому

      The US had ten years of failed launches before NASA was even formed.

    • @fantin298
      @fantin298 2 роки тому

      Ok think for a sec, you have a 150kg satellite to put in orbit, what rocket will you buy ? One that cost 2 million and can put up to 200kg in LEO or one that can costs 25 times more (50 millions $) and can put up to 20 000kg in LEO ?

    • @mullholand
      @mullholand 2 роки тому

      @@-insert- Very few with paying customers. And it is different now - SpaceX is proven and nobody can deny their record.

  • @mmsL125
    @mmsL125 2 роки тому

    This is just a regular launch for me in kerbal, what’s the issue?

  • @geekwithabs
    @geekwithabs 2 роки тому

    So sorry for them. Rockets are hard, please keep at it!

  • @farrider3339
    @farrider3339 2 роки тому +3

    Spinning 🚀 is not nominal !
    Me no like 😕°

  • @NordicSnowhammer
    @NordicSnowhammer 2 роки тому +3

    Musk that issue!

  • @kennethhicks2113
    @kennethhicks2113 2 роки тому

    GL and thanks for sharing.

  • @tatobadillo
    @tatobadillo 2 роки тому

    I wish you success on your next launch. Sometimes you need to fail in order to learn and correct the systems. Blessings

  • @shahidahmed962
    @shahidahmed962 2 роки тому +8

    call elon😆😆😆

  • @rtqii
    @rtqii 2 роки тому +1

    At least they got the rocket off the pad and it cleared the field. That was a big goal.

  • @mike_qbik
    @mike_qbik 2 роки тому

    i have read somewhere that the rocket was standing on the pad for about a month so humidity could played some role in this unfortunate failure.

  • @CommentConqueror
    @CommentConqueror 2 роки тому

    There was a sep problem but I'm not entirely sure main engine was running up until meco.

  • @cashobuyer
    @cashobuyer 2 роки тому

    Not a clean separation caused the spin of the upper stage. You can see the boltsblow but the stages don't move apart straight away,this clearly caused a destabilising effect on the upp stage when the upper stage engine started up.

  • @MikeBUSA
    @MikeBUSA 2 роки тому +2

    10...9....8....7...."Hey boss - are you sure getting these cheaper fairing locks was such a great idea? The tolerances were listed as 'hammer to fit'"

    • @davdin2
      @davdin2 2 роки тому

      Fairings had a made in China stamp.

  • @buynetworks
    @buynetworks 2 роки тому +2

    Clapping while the rocket is spinning out of control. Yea boy!

  • @erictaylor5462
    @erictaylor5462 2 роки тому

    Was the first stage meant to get hung up like that? That didn't look right.

  • @darphaprothon20
    @darphaprothon20 2 роки тому

    3:17 TURN ON TOO EARLY CRAH INTO FERING is that normal ?

  • @keent
    @keent 2 роки тому

    looks like fairing failed to open.
    Anyways i’m more curious to what happens with the load? do they have insurances? Do NASA will have to pay for that payload’s insurance?

    • @andromeda9340
      @andromeda9340 2 роки тому

      Yes,most payloads are insured just in case.

  • @sailingeden9866
    @sailingeden9866 2 роки тому

    Thanks for the video

  • @vgfxworks
    @vgfxworks 2 роки тому

    is there any insurance for at least the payload?