He is 100% addressing both issues. He is highlighting the inequalities and prejudice of the other word as let's be honest, on first hearing it, 99% of us instantly went there .
Note that the fact we all went there doesn't prove the inequalities issue, but literally 50 years of education on this issue, forced into all of our heads, and the fact that he carefully crafted the entire thing to make me go there. That's the point. The fact it was 'ginger' instead was too good to not use in a song; he must have kicked himself when he first realised it. But, you're right, as a general matter, that he's 100% progressive/liberal and supports this sort of issue (though you can check with him). Naturally, it would have carried more weight in the 1960s when this was a profound issue in American culture (though not so much England and such, of course). He just wasn't born yet, haha. Lots of remarkable songs and films do touch on this issue at the time, such as 'Guess Who's Coming to Dinner?' Not shockingly, if you want to actually deal with the black rights and slavery issue, the source material is the best by far, as they tackled the issue at the time and with a real touch. (Not claiming nothing is good in this sense, since the 1960s, but not many offerings. Most are just jokes, half-hearted, or useless white liberal musings; more so, regarding modern social commentary films. Thomas Sowell's book on this point might be of interest, 'White Liberals and Black Rednecks'. Frederick Douglass is also worth studying for Civil War-era material, though also the first draft by Jefferson; you will recall that America could have gone in a kinder direction much earlier but the Congress and certain actors pretty much shut down Jefferson's more equalist (meaning, liberal/modern conservative) ideas instantly. Imagine if slavery ended in about 1790 or whenever it would be passed? Almost 100 years earlier. It's possible that this would have ensured Jim Crow never came in, and black Americans would be completely free by the 1800s. As a result, they'd have helped much more in sports and war, and would have voted by the 1920s or so, as opposed to the 1960s. Shockingly, black men did have the right to vote according to the Constitution -- as all men did -- but they didn't really have the right to vote in reality, which was the fundamental issue, naturally.) P.S. As for the topic at hand. I'll just quote two people: first, L. Fox: if you can use a word, so can I. And, for what it's worth, the reality of being bullied in school in 2025 is a white kid being bullied, not a black kid. Not only have the culture and laws radically shifted, but also the populations in many areas (black and otherwise). Not sure about young kids; they do whatever kids do. But if you look at Yale and England's school system, there are countless stories of white kids being thrown out for being 'too white' or other such DEI/'whiteness studies' reasons, or countless issues of white kids or teachers being attacked (such as at Evergreen circa 2017). The second thing is from Coach Carter, where Sam Jackson's character demands that the black students not use the word even themselves to themselves. Black America seems pretty split on its usage and function (though maybe not as much these days, as it's almost universal). But in this woke era, the issue of if white people are allowed to sing it in lyrics has become hot topic. The irony is: black people have won America to such a degree that rap/hip hop music is now the primary music for young white people, and yet there is a demand that said white people have to act in a certain way in relation to this overarching culture. What a very weird shift in culture over the last 40 years. Music sales and charts also prove as much (modern black/hip hop/R&B, etc. music became primary in America and England to lesser degrees by 1989, and to far lesser degrees, roughly around 1979. With the death of MTV and the original black hip hop/post-funk rap era, we shifted into white girl bands, and all kinds of music, also thanks to the Internet and modern technologies, circa 1999. Of course, by 2009, a certain white music sub-culture became powerful, but the charts were still heavily topped by black rappers and (mostly) black female singers (and Eminem, of course). As of 2019, it's almost completely black, or white people 'acting black' in this way, via mumble rap, new R&B (for lack of a better term), and whatever Carbi B and co. are doing. The top artists of the 2010s and 2020s are almost entirely black, though many are just bad rappers or Michael Jackson rip-offs, such as Mars (he admits this himself), or some fusion of genres (e.g. Weeknd)). I think hip hop as an umbrella term is now bigger than rock (where rock was the primary genre for about 60 years). But I digress.
He's pointing out the absurdity of trying to claim words as only utterable by one group and not any others. An earlier version of his song "If you really loved me" literally included the word he's alluding to here, and he used to sing it aloud to crowds. Many words have been used to belittle, insult, mock, and hurt groups, but believing that only one group should be allowed to utter a word is just as absurd as the belief that only gingers have the right to say ginger.
The song Karen was thinking of for Californication that band was Red Hot chili peppers. I loved this… So funny and watching you too made my whole morning!
You are correct but also there was a show called Californication around 10 years ago starring David Duchovny, Tim Minchin played a character in it named Atticus Finch.
@ yes, you are correct. I thought Karen was trying to remember the name of the band that did the song Californication since she mentioned Rolling Stones. That’s why I mentioned Red Hot chili peppers.
His beat Poem STORM is spectacular, this whole special is great. “Thank You God” or his “ Lullaby “ is great for parents who have experienced sleep deprivation. I love his new music,but be prepared he has given up comedy . If you do the Pope you should also do Cardinal Pell at the same time,The proceeds go to the victims
I saw him live in London, I think was 2006 or 8 and it change my life, here is a man barefoot on stage, rough hair, being himself and that is okay. From that day onwards I stopped caring so much what other people think of me and stopped caring about everything must be right, my hair must be right, my tie must be right, all these musts died that night and I am better of because of it... ❤❤❤❤😁😁😁😁
@annicecooper8105 oh really I love both and I knew white wine was for his daughter. I didn't know he had 2 kids though. Have you watched upright? It's so good. I've only watched season 1 but it's beautiful.
I absolutely love the change from the downbeat blue lighting at the start until the change-up where it turns red when he sings "ginger" the first time. His hair goes from mousey brown to ginger.
A great video to show Tim at his most generous is "TIM MINCHIN - THE AEROPLANE (FEAT. ASMARA FEIK)" and my all time favourite Christmas song "White Wine In The Sun".
Karen's face, at certain points of the song, was absolutely priceless!!...🤩 Tim is such a wordsmith, his comedic talent is incredible... He is also a fabulous writer, producer, director, and musical director. He wrote "Matilda - The Musical" for Broadway and the West End, as well as starring in a modern production of Jesus Christ Superstar in which he played Judas, alongside Mel C (Sporty Spice) as Mary Magdalene and Ben Forster as Jesus. I've only seen bits and pieces of this particular production, but from what I've seen, it's up there 😉 Very proud aussie 😁 🙃🐨🇦🇺
She was into it. She had that energy like "Preeeeach Tim!" Then he says Ginger and she like "wait...huh?" Nothing like the 1st time listening to it. Cuz he reels you in goooood
So, I’m not sure Americans get some of the jokes. These are all Western Australian words for redheads in schools growing up. Ginger nuts are a biscuit that we dunk in our cups of tea. Minge is… um an English word for a fanny. A girls front parts. Ranga is orangutan.
Was just watching Krizz Kaliko watching bo burnham. You should introduce. Also I picked up on what makes you so different. You actually talk to us through the screen. And include us. And it was also amazing to watch your girl love you even more when she watched you and your outro this time ❤. Very cool people you both are.
I don't remember the reactions that got deleted but ypu NEED to show Karen The Pope Song. If you've not watched that one either, it is definitely worth reacting to!
my favourites (besides this) are Confessions, The Good Book, If I didn't have you, Thank You God, lullaby Another Australian comedian is Carl Barron. It is worth watching Carl Barron @ Just for Laughs 1
Dark Side (Awesome Version) is a tour de force. Also in British and Australian culture, red heads did suffer mockery and discrimination for a long time.
Although this song isn’t about discrimination toward redheads, Tim has made it very clear he just used that as a comedic metaphor to discuss the other more sinister word in a safe space
The Good Book is also good by him. And if you want something non comedy related Tim songs he did some remakes of the Judas role in Jesus Christ Superstar
Karen is the first reaction I have seen who actually gets it, even though about Ginger what he says applies to growing up as a minority including the one hinted in this video
Regarding your comment "He's got a genius mind", you have identified what it is that makes Tim Minchin such an awesome talent. One of the most impressive accolades he has received was when Richard Dawkins awarded awarded him the "Center for Inquiry's" honour in 2021. If you haven't already, watch his live performances of "Storm" & "Mitsubishi Colt" to see how broad his genius is.
I would love you to show her Bo Burnham how the world works, I can’t handle this and pretty much anything else… He’s so awesome and I think she’ll like him
Californication is Red Hot Chili Peppers but “Rolling Stones” was cute. Not sure where that came from other than if you “roll a chilli pepper in your fingers it makes them mad and very hot” 😂
Bo Burnham for sure! I went through your whole playlist of Bo and I noticed you are missing Ironic and Rant. Rant is different from the Kanye Rant which is actually called Can't Handle This.
Do people not realise how one prejudice seems to matter when others don’t? I think you only half get it. Eazy E can say a word which will help sell many records but Eminem can’t because of his skin colour and restricts record sales. Either everyone can say it or no one can say it. If not it’s racism as it’s based on skin colour.
He's pointing out the absurdity of trying to claim words as only utterable by one group and not any others. An earlier version of his song "If you really loved me" literally included the word he's alluding to here, and he used to sing it aloud to crowds. Many words have been used to belittle, insult, mock, and hurt groups, but believing that only one group should be allowed to utter a word is just as absurd as the belief that only gingers have the right to say ginger.
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He is 100% addressing both issues. He is highlighting the inequalities and prejudice of the other word as let's be honest, on first hearing it, 99% of us instantly went there .
That's even another layer - our _prejudice_ makes us go to the n-word immediately 😅
Note that the fact we all went there doesn't prove the inequalities issue, but literally 50 years of education on this issue, forced into all of our heads, and the fact that he carefully crafted the entire thing to make me go there. That's the point. The fact it was 'ginger' instead was too good to not use in a song; he must have kicked himself when he first realised it. But, you're right, as a general matter, that he's 100% progressive/liberal and supports this sort of issue (though you can check with him). Naturally, it would have carried more weight in the 1960s when this was a profound issue in American culture (though not so much England and such, of course). He just wasn't born yet, haha. Lots of remarkable songs and films do touch on this issue at the time, such as 'Guess Who's Coming to Dinner?' Not shockingly, if you want to actually deal with the black rights and slavery issue, the source material is the best by far, as they tackled the issue at the time and with a real touch.
(Not claiming nothing is good in this sense, since the 1960s, but not many offerings. Most are just jokes, half-hearted, or useless white liberal musings; more so, regarding modern social commentary films. Thomas Sowell's book on this point might be of interest, 'White Liberals and Black Rednecks'. Frederick Douglass is also worth studying for Civil War-era material, though also the first draft by Jefferson; you will recall that America could have gone in a kinder direction much earlier but the Congress and certain actors pretty much shut down Jefferson's more equalist (meaning, liberal/modern conservative) ideas instantly. Imagine if slavery ended in about 1790 or whenever it would be passed? Almost 100 years earlier. It's possible that this would have ensured Jim Crow never came in, and black Americans would be completely free by the 1800s. As a result, they'd have helped much more in sports and war, and would have voted by the 1920s or so, as opposed to the 1960s. Shockingly, black men did have the right to vote according to the Constitution -- as all men did -- but they didn't really have the right to vote in reality, which was the fundamental issue, naturally.)
P.S. As for the topic at hand. I'll just quote two people: first, L. Fox: if you can use a word, so can I. And, for what it's worth, the reality of being bullied in school in 2025 is a white kid being bullied, not a black kid. Not only have the culture and laws radically shifted, but also the populations in many areas (black and otherwise). Not sure about young kids; they do whatever kids do. But if you look at Yale and England's school system, there are countless stories of white kids being thrown out for being 'too white' or other such DEI/'whiteness studies' reasons, or countless issues of white kids or teachers being attacked (such as at Evergreen circa 2017). The second thing is from Coach Carter, where Sam Jackson's character demands that the black students not use the word even themselves to themselves. Black America seems pretty split on its usage and function (though maybe not as much these days, as it's almost universal). But in this woke era, the issue of if white people are allowed to sing it in lyrics has become hot topic. The irony is: black people have won America to such a degree that rap/hip hop music is now the primary music for young white people, and yet there is a demand that said white people have to act in a certain way in relation to this overarching culture. What a very weird shift in culture over the last 40 years. Music sales and charts also prove as much (modern black/hip hop/R&B, etc. music became primary in America and England to lesser degrees by 1989, and to far lesser degrees, roughly around 1979. With the death of MTV and the original black hip hop/post-funk rap era, we shifted into white girl bands, and all kinds of music, also thanks to the Internet and modern technologies, circa 1999. Of course, by 2009, a certain white music sub-culture became powerful, but the charts were still heavily topped by black rappers and (mostly) black female singers (and Eminem, of course). As of 2019, it's almost completely black, or white people 'acting black' in this way, via mumble rap, new R&B (for lack of a better term), and whatever Carbi B and co. are doing. The top artists of the 2010s and 2020s are almost entirely black, though many are just bad rappers or Michael Jackson rip-offs, such as Mars (he admits this himself), or some fusion of genres (e.g. Weeknd)). I think hip hop as an umbrella term is now bigger than rock (where rock was the primary genre for about 60 years). But I digress.
He's pointing out the absurdity of trying to claim words as only utterable by one group and not any others. An earlier version of his song "If you really loved me" literally included the word he's alluding to here, and he used to sing it aloud to crowds. Many words have been used to belittle, insult, mock, and hurt groups, but believing that only one group should be allowed to utter a word is just as absurd as the belief that only gingers have the right to say ginger.
This is how you sing about, like, 6 things at the same time. Without DIRECTLY referencing half of them, see? You gotta read between the lines.
That's why he put the letters the way he did. When you start with "a couple of g's" your mind keeps them together.
Karen's face gives so much away. She should never play poker, but please keep reacting with her.
The song Karen was thinking of for Californication that band was Red Hot chili peppers. I loved this… So funny and watching you too made my whole morning!
You are correct but also there was a show called Californication around 10 years ago starring David Duchovny, Tim Minchin played a character in it named Atticus Finch.
@ yes, you are correct. I thought Karen was trying to remember the name of the band that did the song Californication since she mentioned Rolling Stones. That’s why I mentioned Red Hot chili peppers.
His beat Poem STORM is spectacular, this whole special is great. “Thank You God” or his “ Lullaby “ is great for parents who have experienced sleep deprivation. I love his new music,but be prepared he has given up comedy . If you do the Pope you should also do Cardinal Pell at the same time,The proceeds go to the victims
Perfect suggestions
Amazing reaction!! Loved seeing more Tim Minchin on the channel and Karen's eyes when he was spelling was hilarious. Hope to see more in the future!
I saw him live in London, I think was 2006 or 8 and it change my life, here is a man barefoot on stage, rough hair, being himself and that is okay. From that day onwards I stopped caring so much what other people think of me and stopped caring about everything must be right, my hair must be right, my tie must be right, all these musts died that night and I am better of because of it... ❤❤❤❤😁😁😁😁
Lullaby. You're welcome 👌😄
Dark Side (awesome version). Tim's pianistry at its finest.
Yes yes to both but white wine in the son is my all time favorite
Song for phil doust
@@stephenfrank2397 White Wine was for his first born and Lullaby was for his second 😄. Both wonderful
@annicecooper8105 oh really I love both and I knew white wine was for his daughter. I didn't know he had 2 kids though. Have you watched upright? It's so good. I've only watched season 1 but it's beautiful.
I absolutely love the change from the downbeat blue lighting at the start until the change-up where it turns red when he sings "ginger" the first time. His hair goes from mousey brown to ginger.
Australia has so many creative people haha
i think people look past how great of a Musician Tim actually is because of the comedy. he is amazing live
A great video to show Tim at his most generous is "TIM MINCHIN - THE AEROPLANE (FEAT. ASMARA FEIK)" and my all time favourite Christmas song "White Wine In The Sun".
You need to do more comedy (hopefully Tim) with Karen so we can see her beautiful smile!
She really does have an amazing smile :)
I thought the eyes darting when he was spelling was the best...then WOW, OK. 😂😂😂 Im crying. Love this so much💜
Freaking adorable. Now we know how she feels about the other subject. Karen's honesty is refreshing.
His Californication role was hilarious.
Karen's face, at certain points of the song, was absolutely priceless!!...🤩
Tim is such a wordsmith, his comedic talent is incredible... He is also a fabulous writer, producer, director, and musical director. He wrote "Matilda - The Musical" for Broadway and the West End, as well as starring in a modern production of Jesus Christ Superstar in which he played Judas, alongside Mel C (Sporty Spice) as Mary Magdalene and Ben Forster as Jesus. I've only seen bits and pieces of this particular production, but from what I've seen, it's up there 😉
Very proud aussie 😁
🙃🐨🇦🇺
I love his song the Good Book. And I also commented about his Judas role in a modern production of JC Superstar. He knocked it outta the park
i love seeing peoples first reaction to this. its absolutely genius
You really need to show Karen Tim's song lullaby, it's totally inappropriate but funny af
I must say, I've enjoyed you channel for quite a few years but adding Karren into the mix has taken this channel to a new level!
Totally agree
Dude even after he started the ginger verse she was still oblivious,it was all over her face when you asked what she was thinking😂
Loved it, thank you both, loving the comedy 🙏🐊❤️🦉👍
Long time fan of Tim. He's got bars!
Karen’s face was priceless!😂
She was into it. She had that energy like "Preeeeach Tim!" Then he says Ginger and she like "wait...huh?" Nothing like the 1st time listening to it. Cuz he reels you in goooood
He is one of Australia’s best comedians, super intelligent. The one about taking your hessian bags to the supermarket is also classic.
Canvas bags, excellent song with a good message.
Absolutely loved your OG reaction to this. Have watched it hundreds of times.
Can't wait for this.
That must have been so hard to do because you knew what was coming! Awesome 😂
Tim Minchin wrote the music to the musical Matilda. He now does acting in stage musicals. I think he may be/have been in Chicago
Didn't realise you would go Tim Minchin, but rock and roll nerd is also great 😊
It is wild watching “yo girl” get hyped that whole beginning!!! 😂
So much great stuff by Tim Minchin to check out. Dark Side and Thank You God are 2 of his best IMO!
Dayummmm this is rad! Please deep dive Tim Minchin with Karen and other awesome Aussie comedians too!
The way cliff said wow like Christopher walken has me cracking up😂
i think she meant red hot chilli peppers at the start ...californication.
you guys have the best chemistry, all of your breakdowns make me happy.
Tim Minchin is great, like you said it's layered. He talks about a lot of things not just jokes.
I’m back👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽yes more comedy, we need more laughter in the world 🤣🤣🤣👵🏼 Gmaw
Awesome reaction. I'm so glad you didn't spoil it for the young lady,brilliant stuff👍
So, I’m not sure Americans get some of the jokes. These are all Western Australian words for redheads in schools growing up. Ginger nuts are a biscuit that we dunk in our cups of tea. Minge is… um an English word for a fanny. A girls front parts. Ranga is orangutan.
I've been a fan of Tim's for quite a while now and this is a hilarious one 🤣🤘🏽🔥🎶❤️🔥🫶🏽
Beautiful ❤
Great choice!!! Love this ❤
A bad word doesnt exist. Context is everything.
that look priceless👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
I just spent 12 hours at work and then 3 at the DMV so... Glad to be on record as AOD from day 1 (and karen since day 2)
❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉 so much 😊😊😊
Tim Minchin is a musical/comedy genius that gets little enough attention by the masses at large
Was just watching Krizz Kaliko watching bo burnham. You should introduce. Also I picked up on what makes you so different. You actually talk to us through the screen. And include us. And it was also amazing to watch your girl love you even more when she watched you and your outro this time ❤. Very cool people you both are.
Please do more of Tim Minchin like dark side (The awesome) version and please bring back Karen
Great reaction love from the UK
Before I watched this, I was prejudiced against Karens.
Cliff looking at Karen is all of us watching every Prejudice reaction vid
Need all the Bo and Tim
I would love to see you react to Storm or Thank you God from Tim!!
Ginger nuts in Aussie are biscuits. (Cookies)
Tim Played Friar Tuck in the 2018 version of Robin Hood.
Califonication was red hot 🌶️ 's😮
I don't remember the reactions that got deleted but ypu NEED to show Karen The Pope Song. If you've not watched that one either, it is definitely worth reacting to!
my favourites (besides this) are Confessions, The Good Book, If I didn't have you, Thank You God, lullaby
Another Australian comedian is Carl Barron. It is worth watching Carl Barron @ Just for Laughs 1
Nice.
Dark Side (Awesome Version) is a tour de force. Also in British and Australian culture, red heads did suffer mockery and discrimination for a long time.
Although this song isn’t about discrimination toward redheads, Tim has made it very clear he just used that as a comedic metaphor to discuss the other more sinister word in a safe space
@ I know. But it is also true about how red heads were viewed in British society for a while.
Showing Karen Bo and Tim would be great
Gotta show her bo for sure😂
I like how no American reactor knows the word minge but still laughs because it sounds funny
Russel brand wants his look back lol.
The Good Book is also good by him. And if you want something non comedy related Tim songs he did some remakes of the Judas role in Jesus Christ Superstar
Karen is the first reaction I have seen who actually gets it, even though about Ginger what he says applies to growing up as a minority including the one hinted in this video
Californian is also a song by Red Hot Chili Peppers
Californacation
Ooh you should also show Karen some Bo Burnham
Regarding your comment "He's got a genius mind", you have identified what it is that makes Tim Minchin such an awesome talent. One of the most impressive accolades he has received was when Richard Dawkins awarded awarded him the "Center for Inquiry's" honour in 2021.
If you haven't already, watch his live performances of "Storm" & "Mitsubishi Colt" to see how broad his genius is.
You two need to react to "who's on first"
I think you'd love The Amazing Johnathan
It’s also taking the piss out of a word is acceptable if used by one person but not another based purely on skin colour.
Bill burnham YES 😁😁
It's not easy being red.
More Tim, and we need some Bo, yo.
damn he got me too
Californication is a Red Hot Chili Peppers song
Cliff, check out Johnny Vegas Last leg fish. One of the funniest clips ever
Please do...the "God eyesight song" ... Your great ,..for the reach out man..been there and still looking for a way out 😊... Thanks dude😊
I would love you to show her Bo Burnham how the world works, I can’t handle this and pretty much anything else… He’s so awesome and I think she’ll like him
I don't remember him from Californication at all!! pretty sure I know him from 8 out of 10 cats 🤣
Californication is Red Hot Chili Peppers but “Rolling Stones” was cute. Not sure where that came from other than if you “roll a chilli pepper in your fingers it makes them mad and very hot” 😂
Bo Burnham for sure! I went through your whole playlist of Bo and I noticed you are missing Ironic and Rant. Rant is different from the Kanye Rant which is actually called Can't Handle This.
he reminds me so much of like 2010 Bo Burnham
You have to do the Pope Song
He's an Aussie
How to make a social commentary about a certain word without using the word.
Bo Burnham please!!! Ive been rewatching reactions to him and would love to see someone new
Californication is by red hot chili peppers.
❤️❤️❤️❤️👵🏼
I'd love to see you guys react to Bo Burnham's "How the world works", please!
Do people not realise how one prejudice seems to matter when others don’t? I think you only half get it. Eazy E can say a word which will help sell many records but Eminem can’t because of his skin colour and restricts record sales. Either everyone can say it or no one can say it. If not it’s racism as it’s based on skin colour.
Exactly ! Can't have your cake and eat it.
I dont ever stream 👀👀
😂😂😂😂
Red Hot Chilli Peppers
Red Hot Chilly Peppers, not The Stones
He's pointing out the absurdity of trying to claim words as only utterable by one group and not any others. An earlier version of his song "If you really loved me" literally included the word he's alluding to here, and he used to sing it aloud to crowds. Many words have been used to belittle, insult, mock, and hurt groups, but believing that only one group should be allowed to utter a word is just as absurd as the belief that only gingers have the right to say ginger.
Aren't you Vice President now?
Can you please react to
AURORA - Runaway live nobel peace prize consert!
Its amazing live performance!
Harry Mack Headphone Sessions
Run it
Please react to Eminem - Smack you (suge knight and ja rule diss) leak from 20 years ago! Dre told him not to release it. You will understand why
So who's the cute girl he has on? I haven't been able to keep up.
4:45 - 'So what word were you thinking about?' - clearly, she was thinking about nothing, she appears to have the awareness of a sponge.